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spk01: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the NXP Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. After this week's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone. Please be advised that today's conference may be recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker host today, Jeff Ballmer. Please go ahead, sir.
spk04: Thank you, Livia. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to NXP Semiconductor's second quarter 2002 earnings call. With me on the call today is Kurt Sievers, NXP's president and CEO, and Bill Betts, our CFO. The call today is being recorded and will be available for replay from our corporate website. Today's call will include forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause NXP's results to differ materially from management's current expectations. These risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, statements regarding the continued impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on our business, the macroeconomic impact on the specific end markets in which we operate, the sale of new and existing products, and our expectations for the financial results for the third quarter of 2022. Please be reminded that NSP undertakes no obligation to revise or update publicly any forward-looking statements. For a full disclosure on forward-looking statements, please refer to our press release. Additionally, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, which are driven primarily by discrete events that management does not consider to be directly related to NXP's underlying core operating performance. Pursuant to Regulation G, NXP has provided reconciliations of the non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in our second quarter 2002 earnings press release, which will be furnished to the SEC on Form K and is available on NXP's website in the investor relations section. at NXP.com. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Kurt.
spk09: Thank you very much, Jeff, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you all joining our call today. Let me begin with a review of our quarter two performance. Our revenue was $37 million better than the midpoint of our guidance, with automotive and industrial and IoT above our guidance. while trends in the mobile and communication infrastructure markets were in line with our expectations. Taken together, NXP delivered quarter two revenue of 3.31 billion, an increase of 28% year over year. Our non-GAAP operating margin in quarter two was a record 36%, 400 basis points better than the year-ago period, and about 30 basis points above the midpoint of our guidance. Our results reflect strong execution with better than guided operating leverage and profit fall through on the incrementally higher revenue on top of improved cross-profit. Now let me turn to the specific trends in our focus and markets. In automotive, revenue was 1.71 billion up 36% year-over-year, near the high end of guidance. In industrial and IoT, revenue was 713 million, up 25% year-on-year, better than our guidance. In mobile, revenue was 388 million, up 12% year-on-year, in line with our guidance. And lastly, communication infrastructure and other revenue, was 498 million, up 20% year-on-year, in line with our guidance. Looking at the trends across our end markets, we are not naive to believe NXP is immune from the clearly weakening macro environment. We are highly alert and we review frequently and very closely several key indicators relative to the dynamics of customer demand versus supply, inventory per channel, per end market, and per geography. When we look at demand signals, we have a high level of confidence in the intermediate term outlook. This is especially true in terms of demand trends in the automotive and industrial markets, which account for the majority of our total revenue. While there is a well-documented weakness in the low-end Android handset market, It is important to note that our mobile business is more biased towards the premium-tier vendors. And in aggregate, our mobile business accounts for only about 12% of our total revenue. In terms of the PC and broad consumer electronics markets, there are much smaller contributors in the IoT portion of our industrial and IoT segment. In terms of customer behaviors, we do not see any substantial weakening within the auto and industrial customer base. Relative to long-term committed customer demand, a large percentage of our major customers continue to firmly desire supply assurance commitments which are facilitated by placing non-cancelable, non-returnable orders with us throughout 2023. and currently the level of NCNR orders into 2023 is greater than our ability to service. In terms of key operating metrics which inform our short-term decisions, demand continues to outpace our gradually and incrementally improving supply capability. Furthermore, even as we actively de-risk our existing backlog for potential double or any stale orders, we judge supply to only address approximately 80% of the underlying demand. Additionally, we continue to redirect shipments to those customers which are at risk of going lines down, thus avoiding excess or stagnant inventory buildup. When looking at customer inventory, we continue to see a dysfunctional supply chain which struggles to get the right product mix and complete kits to the correct location in the extended automotive and industrial markets. Now in terms of our own on-hand inventory, it has increased through Q2 on a dollar basis consistent with orders placed with suppliers and internal build plans. The primary area of increase is in raw material and work in progress, in order to fulfill firm customer commitments in future and especially in quarter three. On a days basis, DIO was 94, an increase of five days sequentially and closer to our long-term target of 95 days. Now moving to the distribution channel, which services about half of our total revenue, inventory continues to remain stubbornly below our long-term targets. During quarter two, the months of supply in the channel was barely 1.6, which is about a month below our long-term target, and it is now the seventh consecutive quarter of an exceedingly tight supply situation in the channel. Finally, let me speak to our ability to service customer requirements. Lead times continue to be extended, with more than 80% of all products being quoted at 52 weeks or greater, which is actually on a similar level to last quarter. So in summary, against this dynamic backdrop, our second quarter and the first half of the year was a good beginning to what we view will be a positive year for NXP. We do continue to see the second half of the year greater than the first on an absolute dollar basis. Now let me turn to our expectations for quarter three. We are guiding revenue at 3,425,000,000 up about 20% versus the third quarter of 2021 within a range of up 17 to up 22% year on year. From a sequential perspective, this represents growth of about 3% at the midpoint versus the prior quarter. At the midpoint, we anticipate the following trends in our business. Automotive is expected to be up in the low 20% range versus Q3 2021 and up in the mid single digit range versus Q2 2022. Industrial and IoT is expected to be up in the low 20% range year-on-year and up in the mid single digit range versus Q2 2022. Mobile is expected to be up about 10% year-on-year and down in the low single-digit range versus quarter 2022. And finally, communication infrastructure and other is expected to be up in the low double-digit range versus the same period a year ago and up in the low single-digit range on a sequential basis. Let me summarize. The growth we have anticipated for 2022 is materializing. notwithstanding the clear macro cross currents and the continued supply challenges. We do continue to see strong customer demand in the automotive and industrial segments, as well as within our company-specific accelerated growth drivers. Overall, demand continues to outpace increasing supply. However, we are staying paranoid about the macro environment, And hence, we will continue to work very diligently and in a very disciplined manner to assure inventory across all end markets remains lean. And with that, I would like to pass the bill over to you, the call over to you, Bill, for a review of our financial performance. Bill.
spk11: Thank you, Kurt, and good morning to everyone on today's call. As Kurt has already covered the drivers of the revenue during Q2, and provided our revenue outlook for Q3, I will move to the financial highlights. Overall, our Q2 financial performance was very good. Revenue was 37 million above the midpoint of our guidance range, and both non-GAAP gross profit and non-GAAP operating profit were above the midpoint of our guidance. Now moving to the details of Q2. Total revenue was $3.31 billion, up 28% year on year, and above the midpoint of our guidance range. We generated $1.92 billion in non-GAAP gross profit and reported a non-GAAP gross margin of 57.8%, which is up 170 basis points year on year, and both above the midpoint of the guidance range as a result of higher revenue and positive product mix. Total non-GAAP operating expenses were $724 million, or 21.9%, up $98 million year on year, and up $36 million from Q1, in line with our guidance range, but the lower long-term model. From a total operating profit perspective, Non-GAAP operating profit was $1.19 billion, and non-GAAP operating margin was 36%, up 400 basis points year on year, and both above the midpoint of the guidance range. Non-GAAP interest expense was $97 million, with cash taxes for ongoing operations of $150 million, or approximately 13.7% effective cash tax rate, and non-controlling interest was $13 million. Stock-based compensation, which is not included in our non-GAAP earnings, was $89 million. Now, I would like to turn to the changes in our cash and debt. Our total debt at the end of Q1 was $11.16 billion, up $587 million sequentially. As we issued $1.5 billion of new debt, and simultaneously retired early the $900 million of debt, which was due in June of 2023. Our ending cash position was $3.55 billion, up $862 million sequentially due to a combination of the previously mentioned financing, CapEx investments, and capital returns during Q2. The resulting net debt was $7.62 billion, and we exited the quarter with a trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA of $4.96 billion. Our ratio of net debt to trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA at the end of Q2 was 1.5 times, and our 12-month adjusted EBITDA interest coverage was 12.7 times. Turning to working capital metrics, days of inventory was 94 days, an increase of five days sequentially and close to our long-term DIO target of 95 days as we continue to experience incrementally improved supply trends. The increase in on-hand inventory was primarily in raw materials and work in process to support revenue growth in subsequent periods, especially Q3. We continue to closely manage our distribution channel with inventory in the channel at 1.6 months well below our long-term target. Days receivable were 27 days flat sequentially, and days payable were 94, an increase of one day versus the prior quarter. Taken together, our cash conversion cycle was 27 days, reflecting strong customer demand, solid receivable collections, and positioning for customer deliveries for future periods. our working capital management and balance sheet metrics continue to be very strong. Cash flow from operations was $819 million and net capex was $268 million or 8.1% of revenue, resulting in non-GAAP free cash flow of $551 million or 17% of revenue. During Q2, We paid $222 million in cash dividends. On a trailing 12-month basis, we have returned 132% of our non-GAAP free cash flow back to the owners of the company, consistent with our capital allocation strategy. The cash flow generation of the business continues to be excellent. Turning now to our expectations for Q3. As Kurt mentioned, We anticipate revenue to be about 3.425 billion plus or minus about 75 million. At the midpoint, this is up 20% year on year and about 3% sequentially. We expect non-GAAP gross margin to be about 57.8% plus or minus 50 basis points. Operating expenses. are expected to be about $743 million, plus or minus about $10 million, which is up about 3% sequentially driven by hiring, especially new college graduates and our normal project spend. Taken together, we see non-GAAP operating margin to be 36.1% at the midpoint. We estimate non-GAAP financial expense to be about $95 million, and anticipate cash tax related to ongoing operations to be about $160 million or about a 14% effective cash tax rate consistent with our communicated model. Non-controlling interest should be about $13 million. For Q3, we suggest that for modeling purposes, use an average share count of 265 million shares. Finally, I have a few closing comments I'd like to make. First, as Kurt mentioned in his prepared remarks, we have attempted to de-risk our Q3 outlook given the combination of the uncertain macroeconomic environment and well-documented weakness in the mobile and consumer end markets. Despite these potential risks, customer demand in the automotive and industrial remains strong and greater than our immediate ability to supply. Secondly, From a unique revenue growth standpoint, since November of last year at Investor Day, we discussed six accelerated growth drivers. Looking at our first half performance of 2022 versus the same period last year, we are very well on track to the targets we presented. Lastly, our people. We are very proud of all our team members globally, and especially those in China. who continue to overcome severe COVID restrictions while simultaneously dealing with global supply chain disruptions this past quarter. We continue to be amazed at our employees' incredible dedication and resilience and for powering through these extremely tough times. Our results are a testament to their hard work. With that, thank you, and I'll now turn it back over to the operator for questions.
spk01: Thank you. One moment for our first question. Now, first question coming from the line of William Stein from Trish. Your line is open.
spk13: Great. Thanks so much for taking my question, and congratulations on the strong execution. My first question relates to your reference to risk-adjusted backlog. Bill, you've done a – both Bill and Kurt have done a bit of explaining that in the prepared remarks, but I'm wondering if you can comment on your nominal backlog, and it sounds like the reasoning is related to more things you see outside of the company than what you see in your actual order trends. Maybe you can talk about the thought process and the magnitude of that risk adjustment.
spk09: Yeah, thanks. Thanks. Good morning, Will. What I tried to convey is indeed, first and foremost, that for the foreseeable period ahead of us, we are actually only covered with 80% with our supply against the true demand which we see. And when I say true demand, then that comes back to the risk adjustment. For good reasons, we have never revealed the size of our backlog to the past quarters, because I think I've always been clear that we've always believed inside that huge backlog, there might be double orders, which is just normal human behavior in times of shortage. Now, over the past quarters, we have clearly learned much more from a transparency perspective about the true minimum needs of our end customers across all markets. And we have very rigidly applied that knowledge to try and actually risk adjust that backlog in order to come to a number which is maybe more meaningful. And I just want to emphasize after doing that, Bill, we still have only that 80% coverage of our increasing supply capability against that risk-adjusted demand. So what we try to say is we try to be realistic around the size of the backlog. That's why we risk-adjust it. And that is different in each of the markets we serve. The result of it leads in the foreseeable future to an 80% coverage of that adjusted demand.
spk13: Great. That helps a lot. Maybe the follow-up to that feels pretty natural is what is the company doing to improve with internal capacity, your current foundry partners, and is there any effort underway to extend foundry relationships that could allow you to sort of come closer to meeting your customer demand? Thanks so much.
spk09: Yeah, clearly we absolutely stick to our hybrid manufacturing model. We continue to believe, and I think the results of the past six to eight quarters have given good evidence of that, that this is for the portfolio we are serving a very superior model of serving the needs of our customers. And what that means is that indeed we are working on both ends of the equation. About 60% of our current vapor supply is coming from foundry partners, and that is more and more predominantly tuned into CMOS logic processes, especially when it comes to 300 millimeter and when it is below 90 nanometers. And in there we are definitely ramping up significantly our partnerships and our strategic collaboration with key foundry partners. We've spoken about this in the past and that is also what clearly is helping us in the past quarters. In the coming quarter we talked about the sequential growth going forward in incrementally increasing our supply. At the very same time we are remodeling our own factories, which are all 200 millimetre facilities, to be the prime place for manufacturing proprietary speciality processes, which are unique to NXP. And by moving out more of the CMOS to our foundry partners, we are creating more space internally in our existing facilities to serve the increased and ever-growing needs for these proprietary technologies going forward. So that is a refinement of the hybrid model, but it's still important that I really want to emphasize we stick to the hybrid model, which again has also allowed us to outgrow our key peers in that market over the last six quarters.
spk14: Great. Thank you.
spk01: Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question coming from the line of Raj Seymour with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.
spk14: Hi, guys. Thanks for letting me ask a question. Kurt, I wanted to dive a little bit into the potential disconnect of you guys doing everything you can to manage the backlog, scrub it, appreciate what's going on in macro, but yet the guidance seems fine in the quarter, and you said you're going to grow in the second half versus the first. So I guess as you look at that, when do you think it will start to be a little bit more apparent what macro is doing if it stays like it is. And maybe more pointedly, it's great that you're growing in the second half, but last quarter you said you thought you would grow sequentially in the third and fourth quarter. So does that growth in the second half imply that you still believe you will grow sequentially in the fourth quarter?
spk09: Yeah, so thanks, Ross. First of all, indeed, we try to make sure that you all hear loud and clear that we are not neglecting the cross currents in the macro which have also started to be visible in our orders especially in the mobile market now mobile is for us relatively small so it doesn't it doesn't really impact the whole company very much but the principle we are applying is to be hyper disciplined and hyper paranoid to not grow any inventory down the chain. So we try to stay there as disciplined as we can be and the first area where we are applying this as we speak is in our mobile market and to a certain extent in the small portions of more consumer-oriented segments inside our industrial and IoT sector. Now, when you ask about the second half, yes, we are confirming within that more turmoiled macro that the second half is going to grow sequentially over the first half in absolute dollar terms. We just gave you the guidance for quarter three. I don't have a crystal ball for quarter four, but I can tell you that we remain totally sold out for the rest of the year. I also tried to highlight that supply continues to ramp up sequentially into the next quarters. I cannot really make a firm assessment on what mobile and other consumer markets will do into the fourth quarter, but clearly from the strength in the automotive and industrial sectors which we are serving, we are quite optimistic for the second half to also continue to grow sequentially.
spk14: Thanks for that, Kyler. I guess my follow-up one for Bill. I noticed this was the first quarter in, I think, a couple of years that you guys didn't repurchase any shares. Lots of people trying to read into what that may or may not mean, but can you go into the thinking of what led you to stop the buyback for a quarter?
spk11: Yeah, first off, thanks, Ross, for your question, and I wouldn't read too much into it. First off, there's no change to our capital return policy. As stated many, many times, we will return all excess free cash flow on a trailing 12-month basis. During Q2, in my prepared remarks, we returned 132% of our 12 trailing 12 months for free cash flow. Remember, we also raised our dividend in the quarter by 50%, and we still have authorization buyback of over $3 billion from our board. At the end of the year, we do expect to return to be at least 100% or higher, consistent with our stated policies.
spk06: Thank you.
spk01: Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question coming from the line of CJ Muse with Evercore ISI. Your line is open.
spk03: Yeah, good morning. Thank you for taking the question. I guess first question, Kurt, I was hoping you could speak to, you know, how you're thinking about the overall state of the auto industry. This morning, but it looks like their second half prior outlook was perhaps a bit aggressive. At the same time, you have OEMs that are waiting for those golden screws, and hopefully we'll get those. But as I look at your mix, obviously EV and ADAS, along with higher input costs and higher ASPs, are sustaining excellent growth for you guys. So I'm curious, how do you see things playing out When do you think we can normalize in the auto supply demand side of things? Is that in 2023, or might that be longer?
spk09: Yeah, thanks, TJ. That's not an easy question. I dare to follow IHS in the first place, which I think hasn't changed the forecast for this year for the SAR very much. I think they continue to speak about like a 5% growth of the SAR this year, which would get us to, well, just short of 81 million cars this year. However, that includes a 9% half two over half one growth in car production this year, which is not a big surprise because I think half one again has suffered massively from semiconductor shortages. And especially in the second quarter, it has suffered a lot from the COVID shutdowns in China, which impacted mainly the Japanese, Chinese, and Southeast Asian car production. I mean, there was a little less pronounced for the Western world, but a lot in China and Japan. And mind you, China continues to be the largest car country in the world. So, from a shorter-term perspective, CJ, I think half-to-car production will grow quite nicely over the first half, finally. And that trend should also continue, according to IHS, into the next year, which I think will be another 8% growth or so. All of that, in our views, is still probably short of consumer demand. Now, it will depend on the macro and looming recessions in different geographies to what extent consumer demand is muted for cars. But we think that car production is so low and so far below the highs in 2018 or early 2019 that even if consumer demand is muting, there is still a gap such that I think it's very realistic to assume that car production continues to grow. Now, at the same time, and I know we've discussed it to death before, the bigger factor for us, however, certainly remains the content increase. And from a content increase, it's just amazing. Every quarter I come with new numbers here, especially EV penetration has accelerated again. I think the latest forecast for this year is now that 26% of the global carbon production is going to be ex-EVs. I think last quarter we talked about 23%. I mean, these are massive numbers, and this 26% this year is in absolute terms of 46% year-on-year growth in XCV production. And again, mind you that with our battery management, inverter control, and many, many microprocessors and microcontrollers associated with XCVs, and the overall semi-contact, which is more than 2x relative to combustion engine cars, this continues to be a massive momentum ahead of the car production, which in itself is now also growing. So sorry for the lengthy reply, but we are quite animated about the fact that there continues to be a big gap there, and the content increase is pulling the cart for us.
spk03: That's very helpful. As my follow-up, I heard the earlier comments around absolutely adhering to your hybrid manufacturing model. but you did speak to optimizing your internal capacity and considering the eight inch, 90 nanometer and above demand that's out there. Is there a point in time where you would need to consider a new JV factory with TSMC?
spk09: Well, first half of your question, yes. Second half, I will not comment to because the matter of the fact is, yes, what I described will very naturally with continuously growing demand leads to a moment where our internal four walls existing capacity, even after the reshuffling I described, will not be enough to serve future demand. So yes, we will do something about it, but there is various different ways of achieving this, CJ, so don't get locked down into the idea with TSM. There is all sorts of options which we can do. including, but again, not exclusively, but also including the opportunities which are being provided by the CHIP SECs in Europe and the U.S., where the majority of our facilities are.
spk03: Very helpful. Thank you.
spk01: Our next question, coming from the line of Vivek Arya with Bank of America, Ilanis Alpin.
spk00: Thanks for taking my question. Kurt, I wanted to ask about NCNR orders and pricing dynamics. Let's say if auto production is flat or down next year, I'm curious how enforceable are these NCNR orders and how defensible will the pricing strength be in that kind of market?
spk09: Yeah, thanks Vivek. Let me start with the second part, the pricing. Given the very stubborn imbalance between supply and demand in most of the technologies needed for automotive, I have a very high confidence that the pricing is very stable. I would actually, and maybe unfortunately, go a step further. We do continue to see our input cost rising also into next year, which would indeed force us to also continue to raise our pricing. So rather than thinking about pricing to become softer again, I believe that especially in the automotive environment where this supply-demand imbalance is here into next year, there is a chance that pricing continues to go up into next year. Again, and I think I said it earlier, a number of times, we have a very clear and very much transparent policy here that we are increasing our prices to the customers in line with the input cost increases, which we are experiencing in order to protect our cross-margin percentages. So on that side, from a pricing perspective, even with a flat car production or maybe, as you said, as you suggested, which I don't think is going to be the case reducing car production, I think that would still be the case because of the content increases which are driving so much demand anyway. Now, the other side was the supply situation per se. In a way, I answered it. Given content increases surpassing the impact or outbalancing the impact of the SAR so much, I unfortunately believe that even in a soft reduction of SAR next year, we would continue to see in many technologies an imbalance between supply and demand next year.
spk00: And then my follow-up is on the margins. So gross margins are, you know, getting towards the high end of your target. And I think EBIT margins, from what I see, you're guiding a little bit above the high end of your target model. Is it time to revise the model? And let's say if Q4 grows sequentially, can margins also continue to expand? Is there still positive leverage in the model? Thank you.
spk11: Hey Vivek, this is Bill. I'll take that question. So related to the high end of our model, yes, we are performing at those levels at this current time. I'd just like to remind everyone that we'll focus on growing our top line, our revenue, and a faster growth at the top line of 1% will be greater and better than a 1% change in our margin as we go forward. We're not going to update our long-term model every quarter or every year, and we'll revisit this during our normal three-year long-term model that we provide, or if there's any material change to our business model. So no change. We feel very confident to run, like I mentioned last call, toward our high end of the model for the rest of the year.
spk00: Thank you.
spk01: Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question coming from the line of Gary Mobley with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
spk12: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I appreciate your commentary with respect to how you de-risked in your third quarter guide the different macro issues and whatnot. But I want to ask, conversely, what can go right in the last two-plus months of the quarter you know, to maybe hit the high end of the expectation as it relates to, you know, COVID mitigation in China, kidding issues, additional supply, and whatnot?
spk09: Well, Gary, I mean, we give the guidance with a midpoint and a range in order to comprehend risks and opportunities at the same time. I think the elements you just listed are certainly part of both potential risk and potential opportunities. Again, we carefully thought about weighing the upsides and downsides, and that's why we landed on the midpoint of 3,425 as we just guided a couple of minutes ago. I would say the following. For us, the overall sentiment is given the big percentage in our revenue is obviously dominated by how automotive and industrial markets are going. And here, a guidance for the next quarter is really driven by what we hear from our customers. I mean, it's such a short period of time in a way that it is really just tuned into the short-term customer confirmed orders and our supply capability. And the way I would put it, Q3 upsides are probably more than anything dominated by our supply capabilities since we are sold out for the quarter.
spk12: Appreciate the color, Kurt. As my follow up, I wanted to ask about the six accelerated growth drivers that you began to outline and continue to outline. Of the six and looking out over the next 12 months, which of those six would you expect to be the biggest contributor to your revenue growth?
spk09: Well, the six The six actuarial growth drivers, I mean, we guided them for three years. When we did our investor day in November of last year, that was really meant as a three-year guidance. And you've also seen the relative sizes between them and the relative growth speed. And I think Bill, in his prepared remarks, emphasized that we are, what did you say, very well on track, Bill, for all six of them. So I think the way you should look at this is that all six are very much intact, and the relative contribution of them is in line with how we guided them at the investor day last November. There is no change. But what I think is important to say is that they are all on a very good track. Thanks, Kurt.
spk06: Thank you. One moment for our next question.
spk01: And our next question coming from the line of Joseph Moore with Morgan Stanley.
spk02: Great. Thank you. In answer to your prior question, you said you were going to be careful with sort of customers trying to build inventory, but there's also a clear message from your automotive customers that they do want to hold a larger amount of safety stock. Can you talk to that effort generally? Do you see that build having started yet? You know, where do you, Do you plan to allow them to hold more safety buffer, and do you expect that to happen at the OEM level or at the Tier 1 level if that does happen? Thank you.
spk09: Yes, Stacey. That is an important dynamic indeed. So in general, I'd say the OEMs try to leave that challenge with the Tier 1s. There might be exceptions here and there, but the more general direction is that the OEMs put this on the shoulders of the Tier 1s. Size of that is varying. We see and hear about requests which are in the order of three months. We hear others which talk about six months of inventory. It is also not the same for each product. They categorize, I think, more into very single-source, very strategic products versus more commodity-like products. It has all sorts of variations, but I think, first of all, general message, more with the PO1s than the OEMs. Has it started yet? No. The supply capability, at least relative to NXP product, I mean, I can't make that comment for my peers, but for our product, no, it hasn't started yet. Any inventory built which accidentally might happen at Tier 1s at the moment is indeed more related to the golden screw problem, where it builds for a while and then it flushes through again when the golden screw product becomes available. But that's not associated with or because of the intended safety stocks. I believe that somewhere in the course of next year, that will, in a more methodological way, start to be built. I do indeed believe that towards six months might be a consensus. Many of them want to achieve, but again, only in the course of next year.
spk06: Great. Thank you very much. Thank you. One moment for our next question.
spk01: Our next question coming from the lineup. Stacy Roscoe with .
spk07: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. The first one, Bill, I wanted to follow up on a comment that you might have made in passing. I know you guys had talked about de-risking Q3 backlog, but, Bill, you actually said that you de-risked Q3 outlook. I'm actually wondering, did you actually reduce the revenue outlook that you gave, coincident with some of the cautions that you talked about? I'm not sure you did because it also sounds like you're supply constrained anyways, but Was there any sort of reduction at all in your outlook given the macros that you're seeing, and if so, like how much was it and which end markets?
spk09: Yeah, so probably that is a matter of fact for especially the mobile market, where you saw that we actually guided sequentially a touchdown. Since we are not overly, but we are also exposed to the low-end Android players in China, we And I have a total paranoia to not build any inventory there. So I'd say there is probably indeed a risk adjustment from the macro perspective relative to mobile in that particular part of our business. There at the same time in auto and industrial for the third quarter, I can only repeat what I said earlier, we are sold out. And the revenue capability is much more determined by our supply capability in the third quarter. So it's a mixed picture where the majority is clearly continues to be supply constrained.
spk07: Got it. Thank you.
spk09: Let me take one more.
spk07: Oh, yes.
spk09: The risk adjustment was also a longer-term message, which is really related to the assessment of about 80% supply coverage against demand. That is not just a statement for Q3. I mean, that is really a statement for the longer-term period. I would go that far to say it includes very large parts of next year, actually, where that judgment is done after risk adjustments. And, you know, risk adjustments are also when we get all the patterns right. say an automotive, from automotive customers and we add them all up and then we know what content increases should be. We know where the car production could possibly be next year. And then of course you see that all the different tier ones want to win market share. All the OEMs want to win market share against each other. And the sum of the parts is then bigger of what could be realistic. So then we make a risk adjustment to this because we know that the SAR can only be at a certain size next year. So that's one of the elements which I would label, practically speaking, risk adjustments, where we bring down what looks like an overwhelmingly huge backlog.
spk07: Got it. That's super helpful. Thank you. For my follow-up, I wanted to repeat a question. Somebody else asked it, but I don't think you actually answered it. It was around the non-cancelable, non-returnable orders. You know, we've seen this from other companies, and it turns out, you know, in practice maybe they're not quite as non-cancelable as they appeared. How non-cancelable and non-returnable are your NCN orders really?
spk09: Well, indeed, sorry, I know that was part of an earlier question. I think I missed speaking to it. Well, it's like with every contract. There is clearly a legal system in place, but in the end, of course, reasonable behavior will prevail. What I can tell you, however, is that so far, every one of them has been fulfilled. I mean, there is no... We don't see any... In automotive and industrial, there is no push-outs, there is no cancellations. People want to have more product. Now... how that looks at some time in the future when Maggi macro continues to change more could be different but fundamentally we put that system in place in order to make sure that our customers are serious and think two times and three times about what level of orders they want to put on us and and mind you that in many markets different products from different customers go into one end product So we have to make sure that there is a proper allocation between them. Otherwise, the car company is only suffering in the end. I mean, if there is too much orders from one tier one and the other one orders not enough, then it doesn't help the car company. That's another reason why we are really trying to put NC&Rs in place in order to hold people to the truth.
spk11: Let me just add to what Kurt mentioned. What we said this year, our NC&Rs were larger than our long-term commitments. of those NCNRs, we can't service them all. We have started our process for 2023 NCNRs, and they are tracking to similar levels as well, which we won't be able to supply as we go forward.
spk07: Got it. That's super helpful, guys. Thank you so much.
spk06: Olivia, do we have Other questions?
spk01: Yes, our next question coming from the line of Matt Ramsey with Kyle and Yolanda Salfin.
spk10: Yes, thank you very much. Good morning. Bill, I wanted to ask a question about OPEX in sort of the context of the macro environment that we're talking about here. You guys have, with the revenue growth and the gross margin expansion, I think growing gross profit, I don't know, it'll be 75% or something like that from 20 to 22, and that's allowed for a lot of expansion of the operating expense while you're still getting leverage. And I guess the question is with inflationary pressures and wages and all those things, it seems like there's still some upward pressure in the OPEX line. And I just wanted to know what kind of levers you had to control that and what the priorities would be to control that if in fact the macro did turn and would you be committed to sort of holding the operating margin flat or is there a case where you're going to need to keep spending despite what might go on in the macro. I guess just puts and takes on OPEX would be helpful. Thanks.
spk11: Sure. Thank you for your question. Again, we continue to do very well here as we are operating below the 23% long-term model. Q2, we finished at 21.9, and that was slightly better than our guide. And I think we just guided 21.7. And again, that primary increase from an absolute standpoint is really being driven by our new college graduates joining the company and continuing R&D investments supporting our growth ambitions. Now, if there is a downturn, what would we do? We have a plan for that. It's well defined. It's all around protecting our free cash flow. Our plan actions would potentially include reducing variable compensation, reduce discretionary spending, reduce the non-critical capex. We'll slow down our non-engineering hiring. And also, right, our attrition runs around 10%, 12%. We would obviously not backfill all of those, depending on how severe it gets. But at all means, we will protect our R&D engine of the company, which I've said in the past, as well as CUR, is the lifeblood of our growth. And then similar with optimizing our costs, you have to remember that The last two years, we've been optimizing toward material shipments to prevent customer line downs. We haven't been focused on our mix or optimizing of costs or yields or cycle time. So that's another lever that we have in our playbook to maintain our margins in our range that we shared during our analyst day.
spk10: Got it. Thanks, Bill. Quick follow-up for Kurt. I was Interested in your prepared script, I think you mentioned that the same sort of ratio of your product portfolio still had 52-week lead times, as was last quarter. We get a lot of investor questions about maybe there's shortages of Part X, but there's inventory builds of Part Y and Part Z, and things are out of balance. It doesn't seem like that's the case with the next business. I'd be interested if you could comment on that a bit further. Thanks.
spk09: yeah absolutely matt i guess that really has to do with the with the mix of our end market exporter so i would actually confirm that in mobile we are probably moving away from supply constraints but those technologies are badly needed in other markets which we are serving which are heavily underserved while the demand there continues to go up So it is, of course, a puzzle where we quickly try to redirect from where demand is softening, and again, that's especially the low-end Android handsets and some of the more consumer-oriented products in China, which is little for us. I mean, the whole point is this is not that much for us, but that little where we have it, we move it to other areas in auto and industrial, where actually demand continues to go up such that in bottom line, in the end, we be unfortunately, and I really have to put it that way, we are still at a similar lead time pattern as we had indeed last quarter, which is that about 80% of the portfolio sits at 52 weeks plus lead time. But it is different product. So that's why I totally understand and support your question. It is not exactly on the same products because it's moving But in the mix, it still stays at that level. Okay.
spk04: Lydia, I think we'll move to the last question for the call today, please.
spk01: Certainly. And our last question coming from the line up to share her with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
spk08: Hi. Good morning. Thanks so much for taking the question. I was hoping you can speak to trends that you're seeing in the China business, particularly around industrial and distribution. I think historically it had been a fairly volatile part of your business, but clearly based on your overall industrial and IoT numbers, you seem to be doing really well. So any sort of puts and takes around, particularly around the lockdowns, going into it, coming out of it, any comments would be super helpful.
spk09: Yeah, so first of all, relative to the lockdowns, I mean, we had indeed also risk adjusted our quarter two guidance, which had to do much more with supply than demand. That was about epoxy suppliers, lead frame suppliers, and others. And as you can see from how we managed to make our actuals work, some of that exactly materialized. I mean, indeed, we saw that. However, we see now since June pretty significant and impactful stimulus programs by the China government, which are starting to take effect, and that's both into the industrial as well as into the automotive market. So there is a slight optimism, notwithstanding the risk of further lockdowns, of course, in China, but from a government stimulus program perspective, There is optimism both for the industrial as well as for the automotive markets in China for Q3 and for the second half of the year. I think I mentioned it briefly in my prepared remarks. Our channel inventory is sitting still only at 1.6, which is very low. And mind you that the industrial business of NXP and with that especially in China is dominated by the distribution channel. So a lot of that is in China. And as you can see, it really hasn't moved up much. I think we had 1.5 the last two quarters, 1.6 before. So we are still hovering at that very low level, which is a month below our 2.5 target, actually.
spk08: Yeah, that's super helpful. Thank you. And then as my quick follow-up, separate topic, but on the currency dynamics, obviously you've seen the dollar appreciate significantly relative to other currencies. And I recognize that customers don't swap in and out components given long qualification cycles and whatnot. But as we think about the competitive landscape and microcontrollers over the next couple of years, just given how strong the dollar is today, is that something that we should be cognizant of and worried about as you compete with companies like STM and Renaissance or or is that not really a topic that we should be spending too much time on? Thank you.
spk11: Yes, I'll take that one. Thank you for your question. NXP is a global company. We're U.S.-based. We're naturally hedged against the euro, so I'm not really too concerned about it.
spk08: Thank you.
spk09: All right, so I think that gets us to the end of the call. And let me just highlight once again, we feel we have operated well in the second quarter in a pretty turmoiled environment. We are also very cognizant of the macro cross currents, which we also discussed quite a bit in this call. Yes, the outcome is that in the In the majority size of our revenues, which is the industrial and automotive markets, we continue to be sold out. We think the underlying secular growth trends, especially from content increases, both in industrial and automotive applications, are also providing a pretty safe landing going forward relative to demand. The one thing which we are very paranoid and very hard working on is indeed making sure that our inventories down the chain remain low. We think today they are low. We have evidence of this in the channel with 1.6 months. And our whole focus day in, day out is to make sure that on the one hand, we organize more supply, but on the other hand, we make sure that there is no excess inventory being built in the market down there. With that, I want to thank you all on behalf of NXP for today's call and see and speak to you all soon. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much.
spk04: This ends our call today. Thanks, everyone.
spk09: Bye now.
spk01: Ladies and gentlemen, that's all for today. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect. Good day.
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