Devon Energy Corporation

Q1 2021 Earnings Conference Call

5/5/2021

spk01: Welcome to Devon Energy's first quarter 2021 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. This call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Scott Coote, Vice President of Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.
spk09: Good morning, and thank you to everyone for joining us on the call today. Last night, we issued an earnings release and presentation that cover our results for the quarter and our forward-looking outlook. Throughout the call today, we will make references to our earnings presentation to support our prepared remarks, and these slides can be found on our website. Also joining me on the call today are Rick Moncrief, our president and CEO, Clay Gaspar, our chief operating officer, Jeff Rittenour, our chief financial officer, and a few other members of our senior management team. Comments today will include plans, forecasts, and estimates that are forward-looking statements under U.S. securities law. These comments are subject to assumptions, risks, and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ from our forward-looking statements. Please take note of the cautionary language and risk factors provided in our SEC filings and earnings materials. With that, I'll turn the call over to Rick.
spk06: Thank you, Scott. Good to be here this morning. We certainly appreciate everyone taking the time to join us today. It has now been nearly four months since the closing of the merger between Devon and WPX, creating a premier U.S. energy company that possesses a powerful suite of assets and a disciplined strategy to maximize value for our shareholders. With this advantage platform, our merger integration efforts are complete, and that go-forward team is highly energized and delivering on exactly what we promised. We are executing on our maintenance capital program, capturing cost synergies, generating free cash flow, and returning significant value to shareholders through higher dividends and the aggressive reduction of debt. The progress we have made with each of these strategic objectives is evidenced in our quarterly results, and this is only just the beginning. It is going to be an excellent year for Devon as we continue to advance our strategic plan. Turning your attention to slide three. With many investors possibly new to our story, I would like to review why Devon has the right business model to maximize value for our shareholders. To ensure that we are excellent stewards of your capital, any successful strategy in a commodity business must be grounded in supply and demand fundamentals. With fundamentals signaling maturing demand dynamics for our industry, we fully recognize the traditional E&P model of prioritizing only production growth is not the correct strategy going forward. To optimize value creation in the next leg of the energy cycle, a company must deploy a financially driven model that prioritizes free cash flow generation over production growth. At Devon, this is exactly what we are doing. We're limiting top line production growth from zero to 5% in times of favorable conditions. We're pursuing margin expansion in earnings through scale and a leaner corporate cost structure. We're moderating reinvestment rates to levels substantially below that of cash flow. We're maintaining low levels of leverage to establish a greater margin of safety. And we're returning more cash to shareholders via our innovative fixed plus variable dividend policy. Our talented team at Devon takes great pride that we are leading the industry with this disciplined operating framework. I personally feel it's time for industry to stop contemplating and talking about the possibilities of a cash return model and more quickly embrace this necessary change. High returns on capital employed, reduced reinvestment rates, and free cash flow generation will determine the winners in this cycle, not the historic behavior of delivering outsized production growth. Now, jumping ahead to slide four, and as I touched on briefly in my opening remarks, we delivered on exactly what we promised we would do in the first quarter. Our disciplined plan limited reinvestment rates to just over 60% of cash flow. We substantially expanded margins, and we continue to take steps to reduce our corporate costs. As you can see on the bar chart graph to the right, with the excess cash our business is generating, more than 65% of our capital allocation has been deployed toward dividends and debt reduction. This return of capital to shareholders is a clear differentiator for Devon. looking specifically at the dividend we were able to accelerate cash returns in the quarter through our innovative fixed plus variable dividend framework which we implemented earlier this year the initial benefits of this generous payout policy were evidenced in march when the owners of our company received their first variable dividend in conjunction with our regular fixed dividend based on first quarter results Our board has approved another fixed plus variable dividend of $0.34 per share. This payout represents a 13% increase versus last quarter and is more than three times that of the same period a year ago. This thoughtful and uniquely designed dividend framework is foundational to our capital allocation process, providing us the flexibility to return cash to shareholders across a variety of market conditions through the cycle. In addition to the dividend, another way we return value to shareholders was through our recent efforts to reduce debt and enhance our investment-grade financial strength. Since the closing of our merger, we have already retired $743 million of debt. With our actions year-to-date, we have executed on nearly half of our $1.5 billion authorized debt repurchase program, and we expect to reach our target of one times net debt to EBITDA by year-end. Jumping ahead to slide 10. While first quarter production was limited due to severe winter weather, I want to be clear that our operations are scaled to generate substantial amounts of free cash flow. Specifically, in 2021, we are on track to deliver a highly attractive free cash flow yield at today's spot price. The free cash flow yield story gets even better if you look at us on an unhedged basis and assuming year-end run rates for cost synergies. This upside case is represented by the red line, showcasing a free cash flow yield in excess of 20% at today's pricing. With this powerful cash flow stream, I feel it is important to reiterate that we have no intention of allocating capital to growth projects until demand-side fundamentals recover and it becomes evident that OPEC Plus spare oil capacity is effectively absorbed by the world markets. On slide 12... With our cash return business model building momentum, I want to highlight the unique value proposition that Devon offers from both a dividend and a growth perspective. To demonstrate this point, we've included a simple comparison of our estimated dividend yield in 2021 at $60 WTI pricing, assuming a 50% variable dividend payout. As you can see on the slide, Devon's implied dividend yield is not only highly differentiated compared to peers, but is vastly superior to virtually any other sector and asset class in the market today. Importantly, Devon is more than just a yield play. We have a quality and depth of resource within our portfolio to deliver sustainable per share growth that will reward shareholders for many years to come. The final topic I want to briefly touch on is ESG. With the integration of our operations progressing ahead of plan, in the very near future, we plan to issue more specific guidance on Devon's go-forward environmental priorities. This disclosure will include formal targets to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, methane intensity rates, and our strategy to improve upon other key performance measures. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Clay, our Chief Operating Officer, to cover our recent operating highlights.
spk07: Thank you, Rick, and good morning, everyone. I first want to acknowledge the hard work that our organization has poured into this merger. Our team has made substantial progress integrating our organization, assets, and processes. While we knew it was not the easy way to combine two strong companies, taking time to evaluate the best practices has proven to be a very valuable exercise. From here in the corporate office to each of our field offices, I've seen some great examples of setting aside historical bias, listening to new ideas, and then coming together to find the right solution for the go-forward enterprise. External forces certainly have compounded the complexity. To pile onto the challenges of the pandemic, February's winter storm was a major event that again tested the resolve of our team. As it turned out, once again, I saw incredible leadership, innovation, and personal sacrifice in the name of the greater good. I saw many displays of our employees not only helping in an expanded capacity for Devon, but also in their communities. This exemplifies the culture of the organization that we have and continue to refine. I'm pleased with the progress that we are making. I'm exceptionally excited about the future of Devon as we benefit from each other's legacy company best practices with an incredible portfolio and a rock-solid balance sheet. Let's flip to side 14 and we can discuss our world-class Delaware Basin asset. Once again, the Delaware Basin was the driving force behind our operational performance for the quarter. With our capital activity focused on low-risk development projects, high-margin production grew 19% year-over-year on a pro-formal basis. This strong production result was driven by a Wolf Camp-oriented production program, which accounted for roughly two-thirds of the 52 wells that commenced first production in the quarter. In the second quarter, we'll have several big pads that come on in the state line area, which will be a blend of Bone Spring and Wolf Camp completions. While the overall execution of our capital program was excellent in the quarter, new well activity was headlined by our Danger Noodle project in the southwest Lee County. This two-mile lateral development targeting the Upper Wolf Camp achieved average 30-day rates of 5,100 BOE per day with a 67% oil cut. Importantly, the capital cost came in 20% below our pre-jewel expectations, driving returns on invested capital significantly higher than planned. Another key project for us this quarter was the 11-well thoroughbred development in Eddy County that co-developed three upper wolf camp intervals. Due to timing, we only have commenced first production on two wells, But thus far, these wells have been outstanding with peak rates exceeding 4,000 BOE per day. The remaining nine thoroughbred wells are being brought online and coupled with our current completion activity in the state line area. I think it's fair to state that we have a strong line of sight to our Delaware production profile and cash flow growth in the upcoming quarter. The final item I'd like to cover on this slide is the positive regulatory update regarding our federal acreage. which accounts for about a third of our total Delaware leasehold. As many of you are aware, earlier this year, the Department of Interior issued a directive that restricted permitting on federal land for a 60-day period. This order lapsed on March 22nd, and with the team's forethought and proactive planning, we navigated through this 60-day period without any impact to our day-to-day operations or full-year capital plan. What is even more encouraging is that since the order has lapsed, we've received approval on more than 50 new drilling permits. In aggregate, and netting for the wells that we've drilled, we have about 500 federal drilling permits representing an inventory of about four years at the current drilling pace. Even though this positive regulatory news is right in line with our expectations, we will continue to be highly engaged and collaborative with policymakers to ensure that we retain the ability to effectively develop our federal leases and maximize value for all stakeholders involved. Moving to slide 15, we continue to build upon our trend of operational excellence in the Delaware during the quarter. As you can see on the left-hand chart, Our drilled and completed costs declined once again to $534 per lateral foot in the first quarter. These results rank among the very best in the industry and represent a 43% improvement from just a few years ago. This differentiated performance is underpinned by steadily improving cycle times, refined completion designs, and the deployment of leading-edge technology across all facets of the DNC value chain. Shifting to the middle chart, we also continue to act with a sense of urgency to materially improve our cash cost structure in order to get the most value out of every barrel we produce. This focus is evidenced by our first quarter results where field level costs improved 11% year over year. To achieve this positive rate of change, we have meaningfully reduced our recurring LOE expense across several categories, including chemicals, water disposal, compression, and contract labor. Looking ahead, I expect further improvements. The team is hard at work identifying and capturing additional savings that will generate margin expansion throughout the remainder of the year. Turning to slide 16, another asset I'd like to put in the spotlight today is Anadarko Basin, where we are officially back to work in this basin with two operator rigs funded by our joint venture with Dow Chemical. Both Rick and I have long histories with this basin, and literally, it's just right down the road from our corporate headquarters. I'm very impressed with the great improvements that our team has made in the last couple of years. By way of background, in late 2019, we formed this partnership with Dow in a promoted deal where Dow earns half of our interest on 133 undrilled locations in exchange for a $100 million drilling carry. In addition to the benefits of the drilling carry, returns will also improve with targeted upspacing and for midstream incentive rates that will reduce our per unit costs for wells associated with this drilling JV. When you combine these factors in the continuing operational improvement, these returns will be exceptional. Year to date, we've spud eight wells in the liquids rich core of the play, and we're on track to drill up to 30 wells for the full year 2021, targeting in a mix of Merrimack and Woodford opportunities. I have full confidence that the commencement of the Dow JV is the first of many positive steps Devon will take to extract value from the scalable and repeatable resource play. And lastly, on slide 17, the key message here is that even with the severe winter weather we encountered in the first quarter, we are well on our way to achieving all of our capital objectives for 2021. Looking specifically at the second quarter, we expect the midpoint of oil production to be 288,000 barrels per day, coupled with a capital spend that is slightly elevated due to the timing of Delaware completions and some midstream projects. Although the portfolio effect would typically smooth out a stack of events like this, sometimes capital from larger number of paths and projects can fall in one quarter. Following the second quarter, capital will fall back to a more nominal rate. We will continue to work our synergy gains into the capital projections as we work our best paths forward. This should continue to offset much of the inflationary pressure in the industry that we will see in a $60-plus environment. And with that, I will now turn the call over to Jeff for additional commentary on our financial results. Thanks, Clay. For today, I will cover the progress we've made on our financial priorities and highlight the next steps in the execution of our financial strategy. Beginning on slide five, a key and differentiating part of our financial strategy is our ability and willingness to accelerate the return of cash to shareholders. At Devon, we have a long history of returning cash to shareholders, paying a quarterly dividend for 28 consecutive years that has increased at an average rate of more than 10% per year. To step up our game and build upon this tradition, earlier this year we implemented our fixed plus variable dividend framework. This cash return strategy is designed to pay a sustainable fixed dividend and evaluate a variable dividend on a quarterly basis. The fixed component of this policy is our legacy quarterly dividend that is paid at a rate of 11 cents per share and targeted at a sustainable payout level of approximately 10% of operating cash flow at mid-cycle pricing. The variable dividend is intended to be a supplemental distribution of up to 50% of excess free cash flow beyond the fixed dividend. As Rick touched on earlier, this isn't just an interesting theoretical concept. We are executing on this framework, and we paid our initial fixed plus variable dividend in March of this year based on our fourth quarter results. And with our strong financial performance in the first quarter of this year, the Board approved a 13% increase in our fixed plus variable dividend to $0.34 per share. Both the fixed quarterly dividend of $0.11 per share and the variable dividend of $0.23 per share are payable on June 30th to shareholders. Turning to slide six, in addition to higher dividend payouts, another strategic priority for Devin has been the repayment of debt to further strengthen our investment grade financial position. So far this year, we've made significant progress towards this initiative by retiring 743 million of outstanding notes. While our balance sheet is in great shape, we're not done making improvements. Today, we acted on the next step in our plan by notifying bondholders of our intent to redeem 500 million of callable 2026 notes in June. In combination, these debt reduction efforts will reduce our annual run rate interest expense by nearly $70 million, further lowering our overall breakeven per barrel. With the execution of our plan, we're on pace to reach one times net debt to EBITDA target by year end, and these debt retirement actions extend the average maturity of our debt portfolio to approximately 13 years, with over 60% of our debt maturing after 2030. Turning to slide seven, another area of focus that will enhance Devon's cash flow generating capabilities going forward is the capturing of merger-related synergies. The integration team has done a great job advancing this initiative year-to-date, and as a result, we're now raising our cost savings target to $600 million by year-end 2021. This updated target represents a 4% increase in cost savings compared to our previously issued guidance. While we're making strong progress across all categories, this improved outlook is driven by capital efficiency gains and the benefits of enhanced purchasing power in the Delaware Basin. Overall, about 60% of the $600 million of cost savings targets has been incorporated into our full year 2021 outlook, and we have clear line of sight to capture the remaining synergies by year end. The capturing of these synergies is very material and impactful to Devin, resulted in a PV10 uplift over the next five years of $2.5 billion, or roughly 15% of our market cap. And with that, I'll now turn the call back to Rick for some closing comments.
spk06: Thank you, Jeff. Great job. I would like to close by reiterating his key message, and that is the integration of the two companies is complete and the team is delivering on exactly what we promised to do. We have prioritized free cash flow over growth. We have identified and captured cost synergies above and beyond our plan. We have a free cash flow yield that compares favorably to virtually any other asset class in the entire market. We're rewarding shareholders with higher dividends, and we've taken some steps to aggressively reduce the debt. Our team is focused and energized, and 2021 is shaping up to be an excellent year for Devon. This is just the beginning. Devin's future is very bright. And with that, I will now turn the call back over to Scott for Q&A.
spk09: Thanks, Rick. We will now open the call to Q&A. Please limit yourself to one question and a follow-up. This allows us to get to more of your questions on the call today. With that, operator, we'll take your first question.
spk01: To ask a question, please press start and then number one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press the pound key. Your first question comes from Arun Jhariam with JPMorgan Securities.
spk07: Yeah, good morning. Rick, let me start with you. You know, one of the thoughts or incoming questions we've been getting is, call it beyond 2021, and how do you think about balancing the development capex portfolio renewal and returning cash to shareholders from a capital allocation standpoint. In particular, we've been getting some questions around Devin's interest in a couple of the larger Permian A&B opportunities, but just seeing where your head's at as you look to balance some of your organic opportunities plus other opportunities in the marketplace.
spk06: Yeah, that's something we'll always be contemplating. But right now, we're really focused on 2021. And the second half of this year is really shaping up to be a quite strong second half. We're going to have some great momentum going into 2022. As far as the capital plan, we've not started working that yet. That'll take place later throughout the year. So I think it's a little bit early. I know that investors are really... You know, really interested in that. But I think suffice to say for us right now, we're really focused on having great momentum into 2022 and with a keen focus still to be on generating the free cash flow and getting that back to shareholders. I think the second part of your question is around maybe some consolidation that's going on. You know, you have seen quite a few transactions that have taken place over the last few months. I think we've been on record as saying we're We support that. I think it's something the industry needs to do. As far as Devon specifically, we've had a high bar. That bar just continues to go up. When you start looking at the organic opportunities we have in Lee and Eddy County, New Mexico, and Loving County and Reeves County, Texas, you can just see that Just in our Delaware, we have just a phenomenal amount of running room. And so we just have to be thoughtful about that. And on top of that, we have our other assets that all are playing a very key role for us in the company and the go-forward plan. So that's kind of where we are today.
spk07: Great, great. And my follow-up, you know, you noted – more than 50 permit approvals since the moratorium lapsed. Clay, would you view this as kind of business as usual at the BLM, or how do you characterize what you're seeing in terms of ongoing permit approvals? Yeah, Arun, I would say it's a little tough to say business as usual, right? I mean, we work very closely with lots of counterparties, including the BLM, and they're in a little bit of a tough spot. I mean, they're still trying to figure out directives from the administration, from the Department of Interior. So I would say we're still in a bit of a transitional phase. But that doesn't deter from our ability or our focus on continuing to be a good partner, working very aggressively and very supportively with them, making sure that we are proactive in our business so that we don't find ourselves in a short-term pinch. And I think that's proven enough to be very advantageous, as we've seen in the prior disruption that we've experienced. So I think we're still a little bit away from business as usual, but we look forward to that change. for everybody's sake. Great. Thanks a lot, Clay.
spk01: Your next question is from Doug Legate with Bank of America.
spk11: Oh, hi. Sorry, guys. I had a new button on. Fellas, Jeff, I wonder if I could start with you on the pre-cash flow yield slide that you have on the deck. And I want to kind of walk you through some numbers to see if I'm getting to the same place you're trying to tell us to. You're basically on slide 10. You're showing us a 20% free cash flow yield at $60 WPI. And you're showing us $285,000 a day midpoint production and a 40% WPI assumption for NGLs. If I do the math on that, It basically says, assume your market cap last night was about $17 billion, and you put these charts together, that's about $3.4 billion of implied free cash flow. And if I divide through by the oil sensitivity, it suggests that there's about $30 or something like that in there, which means your break-even is below $30. Can you confirm or deny that that math is close to being right? In other words, what do you think your sustaining capital break-even oil price is today?
spk07: yeah no doug you're exactly right the one caveat i'll make and we denoted on the slide is obviously we've assumed that we've captured all the synergies um in this analysis and we've also eliminated um you know obviously the hedges that were burdened by in in the current year but when you put that all together um and think about what the what the power of this business model can do going forward at these higher prices that we're currently experiencing, it's incredibly powerful. That's what we tried to demonstrate here on the slide. Although you can see from the bars, which are burdened by the current construct, when you eliminate some of that, you capture the synergies, you eliminate the commodity hedges on a go-forward basis, those are the free cash flow yields that we think we can generate.
spk11: I'm trying to get to the underlying number, but to be clear, I think both Dave and Rick before had said your break-even was in the mid-30s. I just want to make sure that what I'm understanding is actually $5 lower than that.
spk07: Yeah, that's right. We're pushing to the mid-to-low 30s, and that's going to go lower as NGL prices improve.
spk11: Got it. Thank you. My follow-up then is, in that case, obviously, I'm trying to keep valuation very simple. The question then becomes is how long can you do it for? It's basically an inventory question. And I realize you can move capital around to different bases, but when you look at your business today, when we think about a very simple, ex-node sustainable business as a starting point for a valuation discussion, how long can you sustain that type of mix of 285, 1.7 billion of capital?
spk07: Yeah, Doug, I'll let Clay weigh in on the inventory. Doug, we're still working on pulling together the quantifiable numbers of what we would call inventory, make sure we're talking the same language. But I would say at a real high level, both legacy companies had substantial inventory. And I think as we continue to run in this 0% to 5% window, It's many years of Ford inventory. And you know how the maturing of these opportunities evolve. So we look very closely at, say, the next five years of inventory, make sure that we are ready. to invest in any one of those projects, which we are, and then kind of that five- to ten-year span, those may take additional downspacing tests, understanding the right completion techniques, and that maturing happens in those coming years. So I would say it's probably closer to a ten-year range, but we will continue to refine that and work towards a real tight number that we can talk about in a consistent method.
spk11: That's really helpful. Hopefully you see what I'm trying to get to, but I appreciate the answers, guys. Thank you.
spk07: Yeah, the summary is it's great news. We've got an exceptionally low break-even, a lot of exceptionally good inventory, and an exceptionally strong balance sheet, so that makes for a pretty good environment.
spk06: I'll just weigh in real quickly. I just think that I would give this team maybe another quarter, and you'll get a little more clarity around where that break-even is, but I think I think your view is directionally correct, and we'll continue to tighten that up a little bit. Great stuff. Thanks, Jose. Thanks.
spk01: Our next question is from Neil Amedda with Goldman Sachs.
spk03: Thank you. I want to stick on slide 10 here. When you talk about the 20% free cash flow yield, want to bridge that back down to dividend yield and let's just try to assume here rick that the 20 pre-cash flow yield kind of accrues to a 10 variable dividend all else equal plus we're talking about a two percent fix so low double digit sort of dividend yield as you look out into 2022 at 60 wti and i guess the the one swing in that math to accept that math is right is whether you still will be running at a sustaining program at that point, or do you see a scenario at a $60 WPI where you're starting to layer in growth capital?
spk06: Yeah, I think you're right on. I mean, some of those numbers, that's what the numbers definitely imply. We look at it the same way. So I think we align closely with you. I think as we think about 2022 and and beyond. The key word for us, I think, is optionality. There's no doubt we could have just almost a stunning yield coming from the company. And we'll just have to balance that with continuing to aggressively pay down some debt and just strengthen the balance sheet. It's already in good shape. But I think the key word for me is optionality, and I think that's kind of how we should look at it right now. But directionally, you were absolutely correct. The pre-cash flow yield at these kind of levels gives you the ability to pay a very, very substantial variable dip then.
spk03: And Rick, what are you looking for in terms of switching from sort of a maintenance-type program, running the business for free cash flow, to saying that the world needs your business to actually operate for growth, if that makes sense? Or is the bar so high to do that and your framework has fundamentally changed that you see very little scenario, very few scenarios where it would be appropriate to take a more growth-oriented approach? Does that make sense?
spk06: It does. I think for us, you know, we are absolutely spot on with the free cash flow generation being our number one priority. You know, as you think about the future, as far as growth is concerned, you know, the framework we laid out when we announced this transaction back last September I think is still intact, and that is – We see up to 5% growth is probably, as we think about different sensitivities, that still is where we land. So 5% growth as you're approaching 300,000 barrels of oil a day, that's not insignificant growth. And so you think about the corresponding cash flow that comes from that is something that we'll have to contemplate. But optionality is a great thing to have. All right, guys. Thank you so much. Yep.
spk01: Your next question is from Janine Y. with Barclays. Hi. Good morning, everyone.
spk00: Thanks for taking our questions.
spk06: Good morning, Janine.
spk00: Good morning. My first question is just on return of capital. The leverage is on track to reach one times by year end. Your targets are times or less. And you've talked in the past the extent of the balance sheet is in good shape from leverage, cash, all that, the macro looks constructive and you're generating good incremental free cash flow, that you'd reconsider visiting the up to 50% payout on the variable and then potentially revisiting the 10% on the base dividend. So do you think you'll be in a position to maybe start more seriously contemplating that next year and in this situation would Buybacks just look more attractive because it's generally a means to lessen the base dividend burden.
spk07: Yeah, Janine, this is Jeff. I think you're spot on. As we've talked about in the past, as we continue to execute on the plan and generate excess free cash flow into this year, we feel really good about where the balance sheet is. With the announced additional $500 million debt reduction we announced today, we're well down the path to reaching our targets. We're forecasting to be at that kind of one-times net debt to EBITDA target at the end of this year. if not sooner. So we feel really good about where the balance sheet is. And then to your question, we'll absolutely be talking to the board about, should we reevaluate that 50% threshold and maybe start putting more cash to the variable dividend beyond that 50%? And then even considering things like the fixed dividend as well. I will tell you the way we think about the fixed dividend, as you mentioned, is a payout ratio of cash flow, kind of 5% to 10%. on normalized pricing, which historically we've thought about normalized pricing kind of being in that $50 to $55 oil range. If we believe there's, as Rick mentioned earlier in some of his comments, if we see a structural change in the pricing dynamic in the macro environment that would suggest to us that normalized pricing is higher than that kind of $50, $55 level, that's when we would reevaluate the fixed dividend. So I think what you're most likely to see from us in the near term is incremental cash on the variable dividend and an increase in that threshold later this year or certainly in the next year.
spk00: Okay, great. We're looking forward to that. And then maybe our second question is a follow-up on Arun's question. You've got a high bar because you have very strong operations and a great portfolio right now. You have a strict financial framework for evaluating inorganic opportunities. And I guess our question is maybe a little more philosophical is, is financial accretion enough of a reason to do a deal as things are maturing in the industry, as rate of change starts to slow down a little bit with either well results or costs with inflation on the horizon? Is that enough of a reason for financial accretion? Or do you think there is still sufficient running room left with your given your existing capital efficiency so that you think you'll still be able to remain competitive on like free cash accretion over time?
spk06: You know, Janine, I see it. I mean, David Harris is here with me. May have David weigh in as well. But the way I see it is financial accretion is absolutely critical. So it's really the latter of your two, you know, your two directions. You know, for us, there's We do have just a wonderful inventory. We're executing very well. We do see some opportunities to improve not only cost structure but overall EURs throughout our asset base. And so we have a high bar, I don't know how else to put it. And we're going to be very, very disciplined. That's not going to change. And I know that there's a lot of talk out there. But, Davey, you want to weigh in in any way you see things differently?
spk08: Yeah, Janine, this is David. Certainly the financial accretion is an important component of how we would think about opportunities. But as we've pretty consistently said for the last several years, it's one of a number of factors we'd also be thinking about. strategic fit within the portfolio and the possibility for operational synergies and margin expansion opportunities. Clearly, inventory would need to move towards the front of the queue to effectively compete for capital. So, it's a balancing act across all those things. And as Rick and Clay and Jeff have have highlighted here. We have a lot of confidence in the business, both today and as it's going to continue to improve going forward. And so that's what drives the high bar and the discipline we're going to have as we think about balancing those factors.
spk00: Great. Thank you very much.
spk08: Thank you.
spk01: Your next question is from David Hekinen with Hekinen Energy Advisors.
spk05: Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. As you think about your free cash flow and that yield, I think the question that has come up is, 50% today going into the variable could easily, whenever you said stunning, Rick, it's like, well, 50% cap works for now as you think about the balance sheet and some sustainability. But how does the board and how do you guys think about increasing that 50% payout of free cash flow over time?
spk06: Well, you know, I think Jeff, you know, Dave touched on that briefly, but I think the board will be thoughtful and will be disciplined, but also open-minded if that's the right thing to do. That's what we're seeing and hearing. feedback from our shareholders, that that's the thing to do. We'll certainly look at that. Jeff, I mean, you want to weigh in?
spk07: Yeah, David, I think I would add to my earlier comments is we're not averse to continuing to build cash and driving our net debt lower. We obviously focused on the one times net debt to debt to EBITDA target. But we're not averse to taking that even lower. But as we mentioned before, we're in an enviable position of generating a significant amount of free cash flow. We're just fundamentally of the belief that given our maintenance capital program and how we're executing, we need to return that cash to shareholders. And so I think it's likely that our board will debate and discuss the opportunity to increase that threshold and then consider other options to continue to get cash returns back to shareholders.
spk05: As you've talked with your shareholders and you get some sustainability of this dividend payout, you now have two variables in the bank, or will soon in June. Have you talked at all about what yield they price to? Do you get down into the 6%, 7% range getting priced in, or have you had any of those discussions at all?
spk07: Yeah, David, honestly, we haven't got a lot of clarity on that, you know, from investors in our conversations at this point in time. I'm looking forward to, you know, we've been real excited to get not only one but two of these kind of under our belt and hopefully start to gather, you know, some of the attention that we think it deserves. And I think it's likely we'll have some of those conversations going forward. But, frankly, just haven't got a lot of line of sight to that at this point. Your stock clearly isn't there yet.
spk05: Thanks, guys. Thank you, David.
spk01: Your next question is from Nitin Kumar with Wells Fargo.
spk10: Hi, good morning, gentlemen. Thanks for taking my questions. Rick, I want to start off on, you know, hedges were a bit of a drag. I think I saw last night that you were paying almost $4 or $5 a barrel equivalent in the fourth quarter. As you get closer to your one times debt target and You know, obviously you're doing great on the fixed plus variable strategy. What is the future of hedging at Devon at a strategic level?
spk06: You know, I think that's a question. I think it's spot on and very timely. And I want to kick it off and let Jeff close it out. But, you know, if you look in the rearview mirror, obviously 12, 14 months ago, it was a much more stark picture with the commodity tape when you're considering the pandemic. So I think a lot of companies, such as ourselves, Both legacy companies actually weighed in. We had to play some defense, quite honestly. And so we ended up with some hedges that if you look in the rearview mirror, you're leaving some money on the table, so to speak. But it was the right thing to do, we think, at the time and kept confidence with the investment community and protected cash flows, those sorts of things. As we look forward, obviously, it's a new world where you have much the scale that we now have. As we talk about approaching 300,000 barrels of oil a day, the balance sheet strength, all those things, we are taking a different view than what we have in the past. I think historically, both legacy companies typically like to be in that plus or minus 50% hedge level. And from the time, it may be above that or below that, depending on the outlook, but It's where we've been thus far, but I think now with the cash flows, the balance sheets, it's a little bit of a different story. So, Jeff, what would you add to that?
spk07: Yeah, no, Rick, I think you nailed it. The only thing I would add on to your question is we feel really good, again, where the balance sheet is and the free cash flow generation capability sits today. So, you know, we're roughly, you know, kind of on the back half of this year, I think 40% hedged as it relates to oil. And then as you move into 2022, I think we're hovering around maybe 20% hedged. We feel really comfortable with those levels, to just reiterate Rick's point. And so I don't think you'll see us add hedges in a meaningful way based on where we sit today and how the balance sheet feels.
spk10: Okay, thank you. That's helpful. Sure. There's a lot of topics on my mind, but I don't want to be a dead horse. You know, we've touched on consolidation and Devon's role in that. But, you know, I can't help but notice also you have five basins right now, but 80% of the capital is going to the Dell there. And I just maybe take a different tact and ask, how do those five assets fit with the long-term strategy? I mean, where does the Powder River Basin or the Anadarko fit for the long-term future of Devon right now?
spk06: No, that's a good question. And I think right now, as we've said, we're in year one of the integration. Every one of the assets that we have are playing a role with the pre-cash flow generation focus that we have. And I think Clay even talked about it. There are some things that we're doing at Anadarko. or tests that could really change our minds on some of these assets and make some great returns right now with the JV that we have with Dow Chemicals. So it's something we'll always look at, Nitin, but we feel really good with our portfolio. We feel really good with our free cash flow generations and balance sheet, and we want to be really thoughtful if we need to do additional, you know, I'd say portfolio optimization.
spk10: Great. Thanks for the answers, guys. Thank you.
spk01: Your next question is from Paul Cheng with Swisha Bank.
spk02: Thank you. Good morning. Good morning. Rick, One of your largest competitors just talked about it. Increasingly, they're going to drill the 15,000 feet lateral well. I think up until recently that most people thought only 10,000 to 12,000 is the optimum. It seems like they are suggesting differently. So just wondering that do you guys have a view on that and whether that's much of an opportunity for you to improve your lateral length and improve your efficiency in here?
spk07: Yeah, I'm going to let Clay handle that one. thanks for the question paul i i would say both legacy companies have um have a history of three mile wells as well you know on the wpx side it was more in the um in the williston basin i can tell you that that third mile sometimes was uh productive to the level that it should be and sometimes we looked at it and we really scratched our head wondering if we were effectively draining that third mile so i would say it was a it was a situational analysis that we didn't move towards that as the standard. Now, flipping over to the Delaware Basin, Devon has really led the industry on some three-mile development, and what we're seeing on that side is that third mile is very productive, obviously very cost competitive, and when you combine that, it shows to be really a nice product. accretive procedure to do. Now, there's a backdrop of land. Once you organize a development for an area, it can be difficult to immediately switch from a two-mile to a three-mile. But there's a situation, we talk about synergies, this is something that will never show up in the cash flow statement, but it is an absolute synergy. So we had some wells that were on the calendar from the WPX side, that were three miles a three mile development we were going to break it into two 7 500 mile developments or 7 500 foot developments excuse me and that was the plan because we didn't have the existing basis of experience in the basin that we felt confident, hey, this is some of our best stuff. Do we really want to risk experimenting with Three Miles here? Once we merge the companies, the teams come together, now immediately we have a couple of dozen very high-quality, really good experience operations that we were able to apply to this. to the state line area, and we flipped that to three-mile development. So I would say where appropriate, we feel very comfortable in the technology. Being able to drill that third mile is not the biggest challenge. In my mind, it's effectively stimulating and draining that third mile, and I think from the experience from the legacy Devon side, we've proven that it's very effective. So great question, and I appreciate that.
spk02: And Clay, in your portfolio, what percentage of the wealth over the next several years do you think you may be able to push in the three-mile mark?
spk07: I don't know the exact number, but I would put it pretty low. Like I said, we have a couple of dozen on the Devon side. We're fairly far along on the development scenario, kind of the setup of some of our other areas, especially on the Texas side, kind of working towards the two-mile development. And so I think it will be looking for those opportunities, maybe that we had a three-mile stack or we could trade into those areas But at this point, I would say it's going to remain a relatively small amount of our future development. But where appropriate, it's great to have that tool in the toolbox.
spk06: Paul, I may add one of the things that our exposure in Leonetti County, those are federal units, and sometimes with federal units you don't have internal hard lines, so it really sets you up nicely to drill the three-mile lateral. So that's something that it's still too early for us to talk about 2022 and beyond plans, but I would say our land position is really conducive in some areas to do just that.
spk02: Right. And Rick, you have touched on the consolidation trend and talked about from the position of Devon. Just curious that, I mean, 12 months make a big difference with much stronger share performance and commodity prices. When you talk to your peers, Do you get a sense that the consolidation trend is still alive and kicking or that everyone is sort of happy and that the demand for or that the willingness to sell have substantially come down and so from that standpoint the consolidation trend may be over in the meantime?
spk06: Well, I think the consolidation – you know, the trend has been a little – it's really been a little hard to draw a straight line through it. We've seen – I'll just go back to – Last September, we saw three really attractive transactions happen back to back to back, and then it was pretty quiet. And since that time, most of the transactions have been asset-level deals, and I'd say in that $200 to $800 million range, a few of those that have been done. It's hard to have a trend. I think that, you know, as far as consolidation, you'll probably see it continue to some degree. And I think it's, as we've long said, you know, it's probably a healthy thing for our industry. But it depends on which one of our peers we talk to.
spk02: All right. Thank you.
spk01: Your next question is from Neil Dingman with Truist Securities.
spk07: Well, Rick, I'd be remiss if I didn't ask Clay more about this Danger Noodle project. You know, specifically, I mean, it wasn't just the well results, but even the cost. You know, Clay, if you could just talk a little bit, was it just focused on the upper Wolf camp? And, you know, what did you guys do to continue to get those results? You know, it's pretty exciting. Just on the cost front, you know, we show that quarter-over-quarter trend really from back in 2018 and a 43% reduction in D&C. It's pretty remarkable. But it's so much more – there's so much more opportunity because you think about those – that particular pad, that was – really drilled and completed without much of the synergies that we're talking about from the combined companies. As I look forward in the next few quarters, kind of what's happening right now, things that are being tested and blended and combined, completion design is a huge opportunity. Facility design, big opportunity. Just getting the subsurface teams that have been working in relative isolation in the legacy companies in the same room, comparing notes, challenging each other, challenging that we know this because we've studied this and we've studied this and studied this. Having somebody walk in and say, I see it differently, and just the ensuing exciting conversation that happens is amazing and very synergistic to itself. The three-mile wells I mentioned, Supply chain, bidding strategies, the economies of scale associated with something as simple as a chemical program can be very valuable. Technology, what we're doing with cameras and AI, watching wells 24-7, looking for those environmental opportunities for us to continue to move in the right direction. Well monitoring programs. thinking about how do we improve on preventive maintenance and thinking about machine learning associated with that. And then certainly ESG. I think, you know, Devin had a couple of years ahead, a head start on WPX. The WPX side, I think we were really trying to ramp our knowledge, and I think blending that with the existing technology great work that the Devon side of the house had done has really supercharged that, and we're seeing wins kind of across the board. I look forward to what Rick mentioned earlier in a couple of months, being able to really more fully articulate our ESG strategy to go forward. No, great, great details. And then, Rick, I know it's been asked, but I'm just wondering, you know, maybe you could talk a little on just the timing, particularly looking at the Williston and the powder. I mean, there obviously has been a pretty, you know, it was a pretty strong Williston sale recently, you know. about kind of what you thought on existing locations there, but obviously the valuation seems to really has increased on that. And then secondly, you know, looking at the powder, you know, there's not as much activity. They're recent, but there's certainly some potential big upside. I'm just wondering, is this... you know, based on sort of your pre-cash flow generation plan, something that you think you would tackle this year to decide what you want to do? I mean, maybe you can just talk a little more specifics on what it would take to, you know, sort of drive decisions around that.
spk06: Well, I think, number one, you see up in Ibaka, and it's a great base to operate in. That's why you've seen the activity, and you've actually seen some pretty competitive transactions recently. So, I think it just shows the value of the asset that we have up there. We've got a great team, and as we've always said, the margins up there and the leverage you get from improving crude oil price really drive home cash flows. We're seeing that day in, day out. You know, it is an area. We've been very open on that, Neal, to your question, that it does not have the inventory that some of our other basins do, but it is playing a very, very important role right now, and it's cranking out a lot of cash for us. So... I think we need to keep it. I think the powder is almost the inverse of that. We have the opportunity to be very thoughtful. We have a great position there. It's very high oil cut. We don't have to rush. We can be very thoughtful, very strategic about that asset. And we're encouraged with some of the things we're seeing there. And I think you're going to see more activity up there from a few of the other operators. And so we'll learn from them as well. And in the meantime, we'll keep pounding the very high return, low risk opportunities that we have in our portfolio. I'd say right now it's, you know, the summary of those comments are, you know, full steam ahead of that. With the portfolio we have, we're excited about it. And as we've said, it's all about generating pre-cash right now. No, it certainly makes sense. Congrats. Thanks, guys. Yeah, thank you.
spk01: Your next question is from Scott Hanold with RBC Capital Markets.
spk07: Yeah, thanks. And I feel like it's being beat pretty hard here. But on that divestiture comment, just to clarify, something like the Bakken, specifically at this point in time, if you can confirm if I'm hearing you correctly, that it really is a strong free cash flow generation asset. So it probably doesn't make sense to sell right now since you're really transitioned, Devin, into a free cash flow generation story. Is that what I'm hearing? It is. Okay, fair enough. Is there a point, though, where that doesn't make any sense? And if that point does come, what would you all do with, say, theoretically a proceed if it were to happen? Would it look like something similar to what you did with the Barnett, where it would be more of a special type of scenario, or is it just too early to kind of make that speculation? Yeah.
spk06: Yeah, you know, I think your questions are fine, but I think it just simply has gone just too early.
spk07: Okay, fair enough. As a quick follow-up, if you all are running ahead of your development results and your performance has been outstanding, if that continues, would you guys rein in CapEx toward the end of the year? to sort of mitigate your production growth, or would you spend your capital and just see a little bit of production outperformance?
spk06: So the point I'm getting to is you don't seem to have 100% confidence in the current oil market to want to grow today, but would your asset outperformance allow you to grow, or would you stunt that a little bit in the back half of the year and save a little bit on the capital front? Yeah, I'd just say we'll probably just stick with our capital spending. It's on track, and it's looking good. We're seeing great results, and we don't see anything at this point in time to alter our plan.
spk07: Yeah, I would say, you know, said another way, you know, production is not going to be our limit. If we can make more production for the same capital, we're all for that. And so I think the big thing would be stick to our capital. You've heard that a number of times today for 21 and make sure we're being as efficient with those investments as we possibly can. That makes a lot of sense. Thank you. Thanks.
spk01: Your final question is from Charles Mead with Johnson Rice.
spk04: Good morning, Rick, to you and the rest of your team there. I actually just have one question, and this one gets back to the point of maybe looking past 21. Rick, how much time do you and the board and the managing spend thinking about the risk of maybe waiting too long to increase costs? growth capex and increased volumes. Is that even on your radar, or is that just something that doesn't end in a conversation right now?
spk06: Well, you know, I think that's something that you'll be talking about maybe down the road. Right now, you know, our board has spent a lot of time just focusing on what we've talked about today, and that is positioning a company to be the leader that we are in the dividend framework that we have. And so... I think our board is very pleased. We'll watch how the equity performs. We're very bullish on our equity, and we think we're going to get rewarded for this. We certainly hope so. And so that's what our board has been focused on. You know, we'll have plenty of time to talk, you know, about the outer years, you know, in the next few quarters. But right now we're in a good spot.
spk04: That makes sense. Thanks, Rick.
spk09: Okay. Thank you. All right. Well, I appreciate everyone's interest in Devin today. And if you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to reach out to the investor relations team at any time. Have a good day.
spk01: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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