7/23/2026

speaker
Moritz
Chorus Call Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Sartorius and Sartorius Stedim Biotech conference call and live webcast on H1-2026. I'm Moritz, your chorus call operator. I would like to remind you that all participants will be in a listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. The presentation will be followed by a question and answer session. You can register for questions at any time by pressing star and one on your telephone. For operator assistance, please press star and zero. The conference must not be recorded for publication or broadcast. At this time, it's my pleasure to hand over to Petra Muller, Head of Investor Relations of Sartorius. Please go ahead.

speaker
Petra Muller
Head of Investor Relations of Sartorius

Thank you and hello and a warm welcome from my side. So today I'm joined by our CEO Michael Grosse, by Florian Funck, our CFO, by Rene Faber, Head of our Bioprocessing Division and CEO of Sotorius Delin Biotech, and also by Alexandra Gatzemeyer, Head of our Lab Products and Services Division. As always, we will start with prepared remarks followed by the Q&A session. The call is scheduled to last one hour. As usual, please limit your questions to one so that as many of you as possible can take part. In case we have some time at the end, we are, of course, happy to take on follow-on questions. I'd like to point out that management comments during this call will include forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. For discussion of risk factors, I encourage you to review the safe harbor statement contained in today's press release and the presentation. And with that, I'm pleased to hand over to our CEO, Michael Grosse.

speaker
Michael Grosse
CEO of Sartorius

Michael, please go ahead. Thank you, Petra. And a very warm welcome from my side as well. When I look back at the first half year, I'd say it's been an encouraging six months for Sartorius, during which we continued our profitable growth trajectory. We did have a solid top line growth, we've improved profitability, and we've generated strong cash flow. Before turning to the H1 business performance, let me share one personal observation. Over the past few months, I've spent a lot of time meeting customers around the world and what struck me was the incredible level of innovation, investment activity and optimism right across the industry. I talked to CEOs, COOs and procurement executives across all regions. My key takeaway is that the demand for high-performance single-use products, reagents and technology to substantially improve productivity and total cost of ownership is bigger than ever before. Leveraging AI to drive a step change in speed of drug discovery and in productivity of bioprocessing is becoming a must. Those conversations have really enforced my confidence that this is an exciting time for our industry and that the long-term growth drivers for our market remain very strong. Our technologies play a critical role in enabling customers to develop and manufacture the next generation of biologics. from biosimilars and increasingly sophisticated antibody processes to anti-drug conjugates, as well as cell and gene therapies. Also, AI-driven solutions can help further accelerate workflows, especially in the laboratory environment, and it's truly encouraging to see how open our customers are to this. I know these are exactly the areas where we are exceptionally well-positioned. were the right portfolio and the right strategy to capture those opportunities and deliver profitable growth and sustainable shareholder value. Okay, now let's move on to the H1 performance test. Group sales revenues on operational basis increased by 7.7% in H1, supported by healthy underlying demand across both divisions, recurring business, stays the main driver, showing an increase of slightly more than 9%, while the equipment business was going around 2%. This clearly demonstrates that the underlying momentum of the business is indeed intact. In bioprocessing solutions, we delivered 8.3% growth on an operational basis in constant currencies, with consumables continuing to be the primary driver. Importantly, equipment stabilized and even returned to slight growth in H1. That's an important milestone because it reinforces our view that the bottom is behind us. I'm particularly pleased with the performance in the lab products and services. Their momentum continued to build following the return to growth in the second half of last year. say it's increased by 5.3% on an operational basis in constant currencies, supported by gradually improving end markets, and a contribution of 2.8 percentage points from the MATEC acquisition last year. Let's have a quick look at profitability. On group level, higher volumes and operating leverage translated into improved profitability. The underlying EBITDA margin on group level improved to 30.3%, and Florian will go into details a bit later on. Let me briefly talk about the recent developments related to the U.S. tariffs. Shortly before the end of Q2, we received a substantial portion of the reimbursements for previously paid U.S. tariffs that had been declared not in line with existing law in February of this year. While we applied for those refunds, the timing and ultimate outcome had remained uncertain. As we work with our customers in a sense of partnership, we intend to compensate customers for tariff surcharges. Well, that's all good news. But as you can imagine, it does have an effect on a reported revenue growth. However, and this is the really important point, it does not change the underlying economics of our business. Operationally, our business continues to perform well and is absolutely in line with our expectations from the beginning of this year. Now let's move on. Beyond growth and profitability, we also made good progress on the financial priorities laid out in the beginning of the year. Cash flow development was particularly strong, with free cash flow being significantly up. Our leverage ratio improved further, underscoring our commitments to financial discipline and a strong balance sheet. Let me spend a minute on what we are currently seeing in our end markets, because this is probably one of the questions we got asked most frequently. Overall, I'm really encouraged by what we see. Several areas where demand was muted over the last two years have either stabilized or are now recovering. This is visible in the equipment business, which has stabilized, and where the order book supports a credible path to slight growth throughout the remainder of this year. It's also evident in China where the recovery in bioprocessing continued into the second quarter and where we are also increasingly seeing signs of a turnaround in laboratory instruments demand, supported by ongoing R&D activity. More broadly, biotech funding remains supportive and is increasingly translating into customer spending. While uncertainty in academia has eased and business activity continues to hold up well. Building on this, let me now turn to our outlook. Based on the current business development and the improved visibility, we confirm our guidance, which also reflects the tariff-related impacts, which I tried to describe shortly. We expect group sales revenue to grow by 5% to 9%, and underlying EBITDA margin to be slightly above 30% at group level. Now let me share a few thoughts on innovation. I'm pleased with the progress we've made on our organic growth initiatives, including new product launches. One development I'm particularly excited about is the progress we are making with Pionic. We reached an important milestone with the launch of the two final modules, Pionic Quad and Cross, enabling customers to run now a fully integrated continuous downstream process. Customer adoption continues to expand into clinical and commercial CG&P manufacturing, with systems supporting a growing range of modalities, including antibody drug conjugates, following a recent customer win across all major regions. Customer interest remains very strong, and demand continues to exceed our initial expectations. Another launch was the new vessel of our high-throughput EMBA 250 bioreactor platform. which generated structured, high-quality process data for increasingly digital and AI-supported cell therapy development workflows. This further strengthened AMBER's position as the industry standard platform for process development, including next-generation therapeutic modalities. In the lab division, we launched Cubis 3, the latest generation of our premium laboratory balance platform. The new system combines best-in-class weighing performance with enhanced connectivity and digital compliance capabilities, supporting increasingly automated and data-driven laboratory workflows. And last but not least, IntuSight. which remains a strong success story with growing adoption of our AI image analysis tool across academic and pharmaceutical customers, including three new top 10 pharma customers this year. Recently, research at Leiden University in the Netherlands with our IncuSight further highlighted the potential of AI-driven analysis to improve drug safety testing. Now, what are these examples all in common? They all show our clear focus on helping customers simplify workflows, generate better data, and operate more efficiently. This is exactly the type of innovation we highlighted at our Capital Markets Day and a key pillar of our long-term growth strategy. With that, I will turn the call over to Florian for financial highlights. Please, Florian.

speaker
Florian Funck
CFO of Sartorius

Thank you, Michael, and a warm welcome also from my side. Over the next couple of minutes, I'm going to take you through the numbers in detail. And of course, tariff-related effects, either in form of surcharges or customer compensation, will play an important role in that. However, putting all the tariff impacts aside, I think there are just three points I'd like you to take away from today. First, the underlying sales development is well on track. In H1, we see healthy consumables growth and the equipment business is gaining traction as expected. Second, our quality of earnings is improving. The underlying EBTA margin is showing the expected improvements and negative extraordinary effects are heavily reduced by more than 60% versus prior year. And third, our cash performance continues to be very strong. Net operating cash flow increased by more than 25% and free cash flow even by 70% in H1. Okay, so let's start with top line performance at group level. And this is where the U.S. tariff impact is most visible. Not only the regular tariffs we are paying and passing on to our U.S. customers, but also and especially the refunds we have received just some days before the end of Q2. As Michael explained, because of the Supreme Court ruling against the U.S. tariff regime put in place last year at Liberation Day, we received refunds from the U.S. Treasury. We recognized the intended customer compensation for tariff surcharges of 26 million euros in short-term financial liabilities as of June 30th. Revenue for H1, as well as cost of sales, were reduced by the same amount. As a result, these customer compensations had a dampening effect on sales growth in constant currencies of 1.5 percentage points in H1 and almost 3 percentage points in Q2. You will see later on that our guidance is crafted in a way that allows you to distinguish underlying operational growth from the tariff-related effects. In the first six months of 2026, group sales revenue increased by 7.7% on an operational basis in constant currencies. Including the tariff refund-related impact, sales revenue increased by 6.2% in constant currencies and by 2.5% on a reported basis. This positive operational development was again driven by a strong consumable performance of above 9%. Furthermore, and as anticipated, the equipment business stabilized and delivered operational growth on group level of around 2%. In bioprocess solutions, operational sales growth amounted to 8.3% in constant currencies, including the tariff effects growth of 6.7% in constant currencies and 2.8% on a reported basis. Let me provide some additional color for the BPS recurring business. First, we delivered slightly more than 9% consumable operational growth in H1, broadly in line with our expectations at the start of the year following the very strong recovery in 2025. Looking beyond quarterly fluctuations, our consumables business continues to demonstrate a highly attractive growth profile. Since 2019, consumables revenue continues to grow as a double-digit CAGR well above market. And third, growth in the recurring business was influenced by some volatility and advanced modality caused by delayed orders from two customers and project timing effects. But the important thing is underlying demand trends in our core consumables franchise remain very strong across customer groups and geographies, growing at a double-digit rate. This being said, please note that the consumable sales volume in H126 exceeds the peak sales level we saw during the pandemic. And this is a pretty remarkable effect in my perspective. At the same time, operational equipment revenue delivered the expected stabilization in BPS and even returned to slight growth year on year, providing further evidence on the market recovery progressing. Okay, so let's turn to the sales performance of the lead product and services division. Operational sales revenue increased by 5.3% in constant currency. Considering the tariff refund-related effects, FX adjusted growth reached 4.3% in the first six months and 0.9% on a reported basis, reaching €335 million. MATIC contributed 2.8 percentage points to this performance. The growth was primarily driven by the recurring business, which grew on an operational basis by slightly more than 9%. while Instruments Business grew slightly, supported by positive momentum in our bioanalytics portfolio. Now let's talk about our regional performance. Overall, H126 saw broad-based positive development with all regions contributing to growth. Starting with EMEA, sales increased by 7.2% in constant currencies driven primarily by bioprocess solutions and led products and services returning to slight growth. In the Americas, which was affected by customer compensations for tariff surcharges, sales increased by 5.6% on an operational basis, with both divisions contributing. Taking customer compensation for tariff surcharges into account, sales increased by 1.2% in constant currencies and declined by 4.8% on a normal basis. As I already explained, we see volatility in advanced modalities with delayed customer orders and project timing effects weighing on H1 performance, especially in the Americas. Asia Pacific delivered a really strong performance with sales increasing by 12.1% in constant currencies. Growth in APEC was supported by both divisions and benefited also from the continued recovery in China, particularly in consumables. We are also seeing improving demand for laboratory instruments linked to ongoing R&D activity in the region. While comparables become more demanding in the second half, we remain confident that Asia Pacific will continue to deliver a very robust performance for the full year. Let me now turn to profitability. I think this needs a bit more explanation given the offsetting tariff dynamics in H1. Group underlying EBITDA increased by 3.9% to 548 million, with the corresponding margin improving by 50 basis points to 30.3%. Positive volume and economies of scale effects more than offset the adverse impact of an unfavorable product mix, as well as the negative margin effects from future growth initiatives in LPS. Please note, the US tariffs had only a negligible effect on the margin in H1, as we recorded two offsetting technical effects. On the one hand, We have a negative dilution effect on the margin by UF tariff surcharges. And on the other hand, we have a technical uplift in margin due to the negative sales revenue impact by the recorded customer compensation for tariff surcharges. As said, the net effect of both tariff-related effects on H1 margins is neglectable. and therefore the margin increases shown here in reported figures are also mirroring the operational margin progress we have made in H1. Overall, we are pleased with the operational margin expansion in the first half. Similar developments as on group level are also recognized on a divisional level. In bioprocess solutions, underlying EBTA increased to 477 million euro, while the corresponding margin improved by 70 basis points year-on-year to 32.3%, primarily driven by higher volumes and operating leverage. Net effects from tariff surcharges and customer compensations also had a negligible effect on the H1 margin here. and therefore the 70 basis points is also to be regarded the operational improvement in margin. Same applies in lab products and services where underlying EBTA amounted to 71 million euro while the corresponding margin was 21.2%. As we've already discussed over the course of the year, we are investing in future growth areas, particularly within bioanalytics and advanced research solutions, which weighs on margin development and are already taken into account in our full year expectations for 2026. So, let's move on to have a look at performance below the underlying EBITDA, and both earnings and cash generation developed well in the first six months. Underlying net profit increased by 2% to €172 million, primarily reflecting the improvement in operating profit discussed earlier with some dampening effects from slightly higher depreciation and interest expenses as very cheap financing was running out in H225. Underlying EPS increased accordingly to €2.49 per ordinary share and €2.50 per preference share. Reported net profit increased strongly by almost 51% to €122 million. This was largely due to extraordinary items falling by more than 60% year over year. Turning to cash flow. Operating cash flow increased substantially to €364 million, up almost 26% year-on-year. This development was supported by higher EBITDA, lower tax payments, and the refund of US tariffs, more than offsetting the growth-related increase in working capital. And as a result, free cash flow increased by more than 70% to €208 million. The capex ratio was at 8.9%. This is slightly below the prior year level, whereas in absolute terms CAPEX was on par with the prior year period at €161 million. And I think this reflects our continued disciplined approach in investments while remaining fully consistent with our plans to future growth supporting. We continue to expect a full year CAPEX ratio of around 12.5% of sales driven especially by scheduled payments to be made in H2 for our SOMDO project, which is fully in time and scope and budget. To wrap up the financials, let me briefly turn to our balance sheet. We maintained a strong balance sheet with the equity ratio increasing to 41.6% at the end of June, up from 39.8% at the end of 2025. Net debt amounted to 3.76 billion euro at the end of the first half. Despite continued investment activity, the acquisition of the outstanding minority interest in Seljennings for €72 million and the dividend payment of approximately €70 million during the period, we remained firmly focused on disciplined capital allocation and the leveraging. Our bond issuance in May was significantly oversubscribed and allowed us to further optimize our financial profile. As a result, The leverage ratio defined as net debt to underlying EBTA improved to 3.51 times from 3.55 times at the year end 2025. This confirms that we are making steady progress on our deleveraging path. Taken together, these developments underline our commitment to financial disciplines and to maintaining a solid investment grade rating. And with that, I'll hand back to Michael.

speaker
Michael Grosse
CEO of Sartorius

Thank you, Florian. Very clear. Now let's have a look at our guidance. Based on the performance in H1 and the continued positive development of the relevant end markets, we confirm our guidance for the full year. While we have increased visibility of our operational business, there are still factors of uncertainty, especially related to the U.S. tariffs. Let's get the tariffs topic out of the way first. We have applied for the refunds for IEPA tariffs of 40 million euros to compensate customers for tariff surcharges they paid so far, and have received 26 million of this in H1. So, around 40 million euros are still outstanding. However, the exact amount, the timing, or if any of this will be granted at all remains uncertain. But the more important message is the underlying business performance remains unaffected by these effects and continues to develop positively in line with our initial expectations. Customer demand, business momentum, and profitability are unchanged. Growth in H2 should continue to be supported by our recurring business as well as by the continuous stabilization and recovery in equipment and instruments. However, please note that the first Please note that first, the contribution from Mathek will roll off from July onwards. Second, while tariff surcharges report a supported growth in H1, lower tariff rates are expected to turn this effect into a headwind in H2, largely offsetting the benefits seen earlier in the year. To provide a like-for-like comparison for our underlying performance, through the initial guidance framework, We are introducing an operational view that excludes customer-tariff conversation. Potential further changes in U.S. tariffs after July 24th, so tomorrow, are likewise not included. On this operational basis, we continue to feel comfortable broadly around the midpoint of our guidance range for group and BPS, and we expect LPS to be in the upper half. including customer tariff compensation, we expect reported growth in constant currencies to trend within the lower half of the respective guidance ranges for the group and BPS and broadly around midpoint for LPS. To reflect both views and the tariff uncertainties, we keep our guidance range as is. For the Sartorius Group, we continue to expect constant currency sales revenue growth of around 5% to 9%, with Mathe contributing 30 base points to group growth. For wide process solutions, we continue to expect growth of 6% to 10%. And for lab products and services, 2% to 6%. Thereof, roughly 1.5 percentage points comes from the MATEC acquisition, which closed in July 2025. Based on this, We also confirm our profitability outlook and continue to forecast an underlying EBITDR margin of slightly above 30% for the group, slightly above 32% for bioprocess solutions, and slightly below 21% for lab products and services. We also continue to expect our capex wage to remain approximately at the prior year level and net debt to underlying EBITDR to be slightly above three times at year end. Foreign exchange headwind should be approximately two percentage points on the reported revenue growth for the full year. And please note that besides the headwind in full year, we're expecting a tailwind in Q3 and Q4 to be slightly below 50 base points each. Overall, our message is straightforward. Our underlying business continues to be strong. Consumables remain strong. The recovery in equipment is progressing as expected. and improved visibility reinforces our confidence in the full outlook. With that, I would like to hand over to Rene, who will walk you through the financials of Sartorius Data and Biotech in more detail. Rene, please.

speaker
Rene Faber
Head of Bioprocessing Division & CEO of Sartorius Stedim Biotech

Thank you very much, Michael, and good morning, good afternoon, everyone. Let me start by saying that I'm very pleased with our performance in H1. The year is unfolding largely as we expected, and we continue to see encouraging developments across many parts of our business. Underlying demand for biologics remains robust. This continues to drive healthy consumables growth, particularly in monoclonal antibody manufacturing, where our core product categories deliver double-digit growth on top of an already very strong prior year comparison. We are also seeing encouraging signs in newer modalities. Activity in the earlier stages of the pipeline continues to improve, while the later stages, some projects, timing effects, particularly in the US, temporarily wait on recurring revenue growth during H1. Let me emphasize again, this does not change our positive view of the underlying market developments. Equipment is developing very much in line with our expectations. After last year's decline, the business has stabilized and returned to growth. We continue to see good momentum in process development, where our customers remain focused on improving productivity and accelerating timelines. I'm particularly pleased and encouraged by the traction we are seeing with Pionic, our intensified downstream platform. More broadly, customers continue to look for technologies that enable more efficient and flexible manufacturing, and our portfolio is very well positioned to support these needs. Overall, I believe the first half demonstrates both the resilience of our business and the strength of the underlying market. We are seeing healthy customer activity, solid execution across the organization, and continued progress in the areas that matter most for our long-term growth. So let's now turn to our financials, starting with the top line. As Michael and Florian explained earlier, tariff-related customer compensation created a temporary headwind to reported sales growth in H1, but it had no impact on the underlying development of our business. On operational basis, sales revenue increased by 8% compared with H1 2025. If we include the impact from tariff-related customer compensation, sales revenue grew by 6.4% in constant currencies and by 2.5% as reported, reaching 1.53 billion. Our operational recurring business increased slightly more than 9% in H1. Let me remind you what Florian said some minutes ago. First, this is in line with our expectations from the start of the year. Second, looking beyond quarterly fluctuations, our recurring business has grown at a double digit well above CAGR since 2019. Third, we have seen some volatility in bus modalities caused by delay orders due to project timing effects with two major customers. So let me tell you what I see in the cell and gene therapy space. I see healthy activity levels with new molecules entering development pipelines, new companies being funded, an increasing number of late-stage programs advancing. Volatility is inherent given this is a young and immature small market where success or failure of individual programs can have a material influence. Let me be very clear here. We remain highly constructive and enthusiastic about the market's long-term potential. Now let's turn to profitability. Underlying EBITDA improved strongly. In absolute terms, underlying EBITDA increased to 417 million and the underlying EBITDA margin improved by 40 basis points to 31.4%. Margin expansion was primarily driven by high volumes and resulting operating leverage. I think this demonstrates the scalability of our business model Also, margin development was influenced by offsetting technical effects related to U.S. tariffs, which had a broadly neutral impact. Furthermore, please keep in mind that we had to increase the brand name fees charged from Sartreus AG to SSB SA since Q1 26 by 25 basis points as a result from German tax audits concluded early this year. Looking at the regional performance, All regions contributed positively to business development in the first half. EMEA increased by 7.7% in constant currencies. The Americas on operational basis expanded by 5.4% in constant currencies. Accounting for impact of the tariff-related compensation to customers, constant currency growth was 0.8% year-over-year. Florian highlighted before for Sartorius AG The same holds true for Sator Stedin. The Americas was the region affected by customer compensation for tariffs shortages as well as by delayed customers orders in advanced therapy space, which weighed on H1 performance. Asia Pacific was very strong with growth of 12.5% in constant currencies, supported the continued recovery in China and ongoing strength in consumables. While comparables become more demanding in the second half, we remain confident that Asia Pacific will continue to deliver a very robust performance for the full year. Let's move to net profit and cash flow. Both showed solid growth over the first half of the year. Underlying net profit increased by 3% to $235 million, reflecting the improved operating profit we discussed earlier. Underlying EPS increased accordingly to €2.42. Reported net profit increased strongly by almost 18% to €181 million. This development was supported by low extraordinary items compared with the prior year period. Turning to cash flow, operating cash flow increased significantly to €341 million, up more than 39% year on year. The increase was driven by higher EBITDA, lower tax payments, and the refund of U.S. tariff-related surcharges, more than offsetting the growth-related increase in the working capital. As a result, free cash flow increased substantially to 199 million, almost doubling compared to the prior year period. The capex ratio was 9.3%, slightly below the prior year level, and are fully in line with our disciplined investment approach to support future growth. We continue to expect a full year capex ratio at around the previous year level of slightly above 13%. A quick look at our balance sheet metrics. At the end of H1, we continue to show a very strong equity ratio of 53.6%, reflecting our solid capital structure. Compared with year end, the increase was primarily driven by the strong earnings performance, more than offsetting the dividend payments in H1. Net debt increased modestly during the second quarter, reflecting annual dividend payment as well as the acquisition of the outstanding minority interest in Solgenics for 72 million euros. Nevertheless, our deleveraging trajectory remains firmly intact. as a result of net debt to underlying EBITDA ratio improved further to 2.36 times compared to 2.38 times at year-end 2025, keeping us firmly on track to achieve our year-end targets. Overall, these developments underline the strong balance sheet position of Sartorius Tech in Biotech and provide a solid foundation to support future growth while maintaining financial flexibility and financial discipline. Before we move to Q&A, let me comment on our 2026 outlook for Satoi Sterling Biotech. We are confirming our full year 2026 guidance based on the business performance in H1 and continued positive development of our end markets. As Michael explained, we have increased visibility in our operational business, but there are still some factors of uncertainty, especially related to the U.S. tariffs. We have applied for refunds for tariffs of €35 million to compensate customers for tariff surcharges they paid so far and have received €22 million of this in each one. So around €13 million are still outstanding. However, the exact amount and timing of, or if any, of that will be granted at all remain uncertain. Let me emphasize that the underlying business performance continues to develop positively in line with our expectations and is not affected by these tariff-related impacts. The recurring business remains the primary growth driver, while the continued stabilization and recovery of the equipment business is also supportive for growth in H2. However, please bear in mind that tariff surcharges supported growth in H1. Lower tariff rates are expected to turn This effect into the headwind in H2, largely offsetting the benefits seen earlier the year. Quite a like-for-like comparison with the guidance issued beginning of the year, we also introduced an operational view for Satoris Steady Biotech, which does not incorporate any potential further changes in UF tariffs after July 24, 2026. On this operational basis, we continue to feel comfortable broadly around the midpoint of our guidance range. Reflecting on the effect from customer tariff compensation, we at this point in time expect growth in constant currencies to trend within the lower half of the respective guidance range. We keep our guidance range as it is to reflect both views and the tariff uncertainty and continue to expect constant currency sales revenue growth of around 6% to 10%. Based on this, we also confirm our profitability outlook and continue to forecast an underlying EBITDA margin of slightly above 31%. We also continue to expect our capex ratio to maintain approximately at the prior year level and net debt to underlying EBITDA to be slightly above two times at year end. FX headwind. should be approximately two percentage points on reported revenue growth for the full year. Please note that besides the headwind in full year, we are expecting a tailwind in Q3 and Q4 to be slightly below 50 basis points each. So putting all this together, strong underlying business continues, strong consumables business, equipment recovering as expected, Based on improved visibility, we are confident in our full year outlook. With this, I will hand over to the operator for the Q&A session. Thank you.

speaker
Moritz
Chorus Call Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and 1 on their telephone. You will hear a tone to confirm that you have entered the queue. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and 2. Questioners on the phone are requested to disable loudspeaker mode and eventually turn off the volume from the webcast while asking a question. Anyone with a question may press star and one at this time. And today's first question comes from Richard Fother from JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

speaker
Richard Fother
Analyst at JPMorgan

Hi, thanks for taking my question. One question, please. Based on the underlying performance of BPS in the first half and your guidance, it seems we should anticipate a similar underlying performance in the second half. Given this backdrop and the developing order book and customer discussions, I wanted to ask how your confidence level in the 9% to 12% growth outlook for BPS in the coming years is developing. Thanks very much.

speaker
Rene Faber
Head of Bioprocessing Division & CEO of Sartorius Stedim Biotech

Thank you for that question. Maybe let me start with what we see as the underlying trends in the bioprocessing and the momentum in the market. We see ongoing solid growth of demand for commercial drugs, drugs driving consumables growth. We see healthy pipeline growth and approval rates. We start to see recovery in advanced modalities, better biotech funding. So all that, I think, as we mentioned in the call, all that supports really our double-digit growth of consumables. So looking at the 2026 H1, first we delivered slightly more than 9% consumables, operational growth. Looking beyond the fluctuations, we are on the double-digit growth trajectory. And looking at the full year expectation, consumables We continue to see the double-digit growth on top of strong previous year level. What is a bit deluding is a couple of late-stage advanced therapies customers with timing effects, so looking full year and with lead times for consumables being one to three-month range. There are scenarios possible around high single-digit, low double-digit range for recurring revenues full year.

speaker
Moritz
Chorus Call Operator

Thanks very much. And the next question comes from Charles Weston from RBC. Please go ahead.

speaker
Charles Weston
Analyst at RBC

Thank you. Can I just ask a clarification question on Q2? Did the operational growth in Q2 include the tariff surcharge tailwinds? And if so, how much was that, please? But my general question, sorry for squeezing a clarification one in there. Can you give us some color on those delayed programs, please, the rough scale of the headwinds? whether this will be a headwind in H2 as well and your confidence in those orders coming back. Thank you.

speaker
Michael Grosse
CEO of Sartorius

Thank you.

speaker
Florian Funck
CFO of Sartorius

So let me take the first part of the question regarding the tariffs. So yes, the operational view is including the general surcharge as a fact of current business life. The positive effect of these surcharges on group growth was 40 basis points.

speaker
Michael Grosse
CEO of Sartorius

Okay, Rene, you will take the second half of the question.

speaker
Rene Faber
Head of Bioprocessing Division & CEO of Sartorius Stedim Biotech

Happy to take the second part. Yeah, advanced therapy. Thank you. Yeah, thank you for the question. So maybe starting with the overall advanced therapy market, as I was describing that, first of all, early pipelines, positive recovery we see in the market. We have seen this, you know, two customers, key customers in their late stage projects, you know, delaying those which is impacting Our overall recurring revenue growth in H1 and will have an impact on the full year as well, taking that out. Nice double-digit growth continues. So, you know, overall, we remain very confident and encouraged about the overall market long-term driver for our business. And, yeah, we'll see how that unfolds going forward.

speaker
Charles Weston
Analyst at RBC

Thank you. So you're confident that that will come back next year, assuming clinical results are good?

speaker
Rene Faber
Head of Bioprocessing Division & CEO of Sartorius Stedim Biotech

Yeah, we are in close, of course, in close contact with the customers, following how the timings evolve. Yeah, so we are thinking, yeah, it's orders expecting coming end of the year. So revenues will most likely be seen in 2027. Some of that may be already this year. So, yeah, we are confident. Thank you both. Cheers.

speaker
Moritz
Chorus Call Operator

Then the next question comes from Zubu Nambi from Guggenheim. Please go ahead.

speaker
Zubu Nambi
Analyst at Guggenheim

Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my question. In your prepared remarks, you acknowledged that there was a delay in revenue, and you elaborated a little bit. But a big player, Danaher, indicated they had a similar issue with customers. but you attributed it to advanced modalities and they attributed it to monoclonal antibody customer. Do you believe these are related, even though they are different modalities altogether? We are trying to get at the scope of .

speaker
Florian Funck
CFO of Sartorius

I'm sorry, you have been breaking off technically. Could you repeat the question, please?

speaker
Zubu Nambi
Analyst at Guggenheim

It's .

speaker
Florian Funck
CFO of Sartorius

Hello? She's off, so we take the next question.

speaker
Zubu Nambi
Analyst at Guggenheim

Hello, is this better now?

speaker
Michael Grosse
CEO of Sartorius

Yeah, let's try.

speaker
Zubu Nambi
Analyst at Guggenheim

Perfect. So in your prepared remarks, you acknowledged there was a delay in revenue in advanced modalities, but there was a big player, Dana Herr, who indicated they had a similar issue with two customers this week, but that was monoclonal antibodies. Do you believe these issues are related even though they are different modalities? We are trying to get to the scope of this issue.

speaker
Michael Grosse
CEO of Sartorius

No, I mean, clearly we don't see that, Subbu. Again, we look at our basically classical protein-based portfolio. We don't see that implication at that point in time at all. And then the comment really was isolated, as Rene said, to the two customers in the space of advanced therapy, so they're not related.

speaker
Zubu Nambi
Analyst at Guggenheim

Perfect. So then what gives you the confidence that this is still coming back? Why couldn't this be a permanent delay?

speaker
Rene Faber
Head of Bioprocessing Division & CEO of Sartorius Stedim Biotech

That's our view, talking to customers, understanding what's happening on the timeline. It's very much the project timing on their side in the late stage phases with the drugs. So far, nothing about stopping the programs. It's more timing delay, and as I said, expect that coming back end of the year, beginning next year.

speaker
Zubu Nambi
Analyst at Guggenheim

Okay, thank you, guys.

speaker
Moritz
Chorus Call Operator

And the next question comes from James Quickly from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

speaker
James Quickly
Analyst at Goldman Sachs

Great, thank you for taking my questions. I've got somewhat of a follow-up on the first question from Richard. So what metrics would you point to that help to support your confidence that you're seeing strong underlying demand within BPS consumer rules that, again, that underscore your confidence in double-digit growth continuing that trend that you mentioned since 2019? Is there anything across different customer types, so pharma, biotech, CDMOs, or even across modalities, as you highlighted with advanced modalities and monoclonal antibodies? I know you don't give details anymore, but anything you can say in terms of the development of the order book here would also be helpful. Thank you.

speaker
Michael Grosse
CEO of Sartorius

I can take that, James. I mean, first of all, again, I think we see that broad level of growth being supported by large CDMO and by large biopharma customers. in basically all late-stage or commercial production. Therefore, the visibility and the outlook as well for the continuation of that journey on the basic classical protein-based therapies and some advanced therapies is there and is visible, and that's the reason why we strongly believe in the continuation of that journey. The specific aspect that Rene has already highlighted on the new modalities is a question of delay and pointed out in that way. So, yeah, the visibility, therefore, is there. I think what is there, a bit more the question about, you know, how far and what is the main, let's say, uncertainty that we're having is more on the Q4 perspective. Here, indeed, it's still the question, and that's where we still have as well the guidance range, because other than in the capital equipment where we have clear visibility for the full year in a way, it's more about the timing and realization of revenues here. It is indeed just a question of how Q4 will pan out in terms of consumer growth.

speaker
James Quickly
Analyst at Goldman Sachs

Right, thank you.

speaker
Moritz
Chorus Call Operator

Then the next question comes from Uduseas Manisiotis from BNB Paribas. Please go ahead.

speaker
Uduseas Manisiotis
Analyst at BNP Paribas

Hi, thank you for taking my question. Could you please share some additional detail on why bioprocessing product groups within equipment and consumables have been relatively weaker in terms of mix? Basically, which product groups have been weaker and which stronger to result in the persistent mix headwind you're seeing in both Q1 and Q2? Thanks.

speaker
Florian Funck
CFO of Sartorius

Thank you for that question regarding the mixed effect. It is not a classical mixed effect like recurring versus non-recurring because we are seeing that the recurring business remains strong. It is rather a mixed effect within the different product categories, recurring and non-recurring. So, as you know, there are, of course, consumables that are more profitable than others. And, for example, the topic of the delayed projects in ATS, which come with very high margins, is one driver to that negative mixed effect that we were talking about.

speaker
Moritz
Chorus Call Operator

And the next question comes from Charlie Haywood from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

speaker
Charlie Haywood
Analyst at Bank of America

Charlie Haywood, Bank of America. Thanks for taking the question. It's again back on the compressor commentary, seeing the delays for a few customers in a specific product. So it's two parts here. One, to the extent you're able to quantify your exposure to chromatography resins or, I guess, purification cells as a percent of BPS. And then secondly, I guess the main unknown here is that this could spread to more customers or to more products. So have you seen any changes, I guess, in the last couple of months or delays in customers based on conversations you've had, I guess, outside of the ADS you've mentioned? Or anything specific in commercial downstream manufacturing that gives any change in confidence in the drivers there for the rest of the year? Thank you.

speaker
Rene Faber
Head of Bioprocessing Division & CEO of Sartorius Stedim Biotech

Thank you very much for the question. Our view is that looks like customer-based volatility in the market. We see that as we described for two key customers in advanced modalities that happens. Other than that, we don't really see any trending here either across product groups or customer groups.

speaker
Moritz
Chorus Call Operator

And the next question comes from Falco Friedrichs from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

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Falco Friedrichs
Analyst at Deutsche Bank

Thank you. Good afternoon. You have been clear that we should assume the midpoint of your BPS guidance for the full year. In terms of the phasing between Q3 and Q4, is it fair to assume that growth should be balanced between the two quarters at around that midpoint? Or are there any specific phasing effects that we should consider when modeling the second half? Thank you.

speaker
Florian Funck
CFO of Sartorius

Yeah, Falco, happy to take that question. And as you know, we are not in general providing any quarterly guidance here. I think when we are talking about phasing effects, it's mainly on the technical side, things that we have to take into account. So, for example, The effects around MATIC that will roll off as a supporting factor. Also, we have been talking about the tariffs surcharges, which have been a tailwind in H1, but which is turning into a headwind into H2, at least as long as tariffs stay on the currently communicated But on an operational level, currently we have no reasons to comment on specific developments in Q3 or Q426.

speaker
Falco Friedrichs
Analyst at Deutsche Bank

Okay, thank you.

speaker
Moritz
Chorus Call Operator

And the next question comes from Oliver Reinberg from Kepler Schifrö. Please go ahead.

speaker
Oliver Reinberg
Analyst at Kepler Cheuvreux

Thanks very much for taking my question. I was trying to get a bit of color on the push and pulls for next year. I mean apparently the starting point would be a midterm guide which calls for nine to twelve percent growth but arguably there's a kind of triple or three support factors one the tariff refunds provide a kind of lowered comp you have also a very low comp on the kind of equipment book and then thirdly even this delays may probably support next year so the question is really is there any reason to assume not the high end of this nine to twelve percent guidance for next year thank you

speaker
Michael Grosse
CEO of Sartorius

No, I mean, thank you. As you know, we will talk about the year 2027 at the right point in time, and that's not now. So in this regard, we don't want to speculate on some of the clear uncertainties that are still there on the tariff regime and everything. So therefore, you know, we have our midterm guidance we talk about this year right now, and we will talk about 2027 in due time.

speaker
Oliver Reinberg
Analyst at Kepler Cheuvreux

Are there any kind of risk factors that you see at this stage?

speaker
Michael Grosse
CEO of Sartorius

I mean, if we take from an operational perspective, we don't see risk factor from an uncertainty level in the world and whatever happens, we don't know.

speaker
Oliver Reinberg
Analyst at Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay, understood. Thank you.

speaker
Moritz
Chorus Call Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Harry Gillis from Bärenberg. Please go ahead.

speaker
Harry Gillis
Analyst at Berenberg

Thank you very much for taking the question. Your underlying BPS growth accelerated to 8.4% in Q2 from 8.1% in Q1, despite the delays at the two advanced modality customers. All your commentary indicates that markets are improving. You still expect equipment growth in H2. So can I just ask, why is the guidance for the midpoint of the 6% to 10% range in BPS? And why does this decelerate? Is it simply an even larger impact from these two customers in the second half? And then sort of related to that, what are the swing factors that could drive you higher or lower within the range? Thank you.

speaker
Florian Funck
CFO of Sartorius

I have to chip in once again the technical effects, Harry, which is on the tariffs. And as you know, we have that kind of tailwind in H1, also reflected in the numbers that you were referring to for Q1 and Q2, and this turns into a headwind in H2. So this is just the technical effects that we have to take into account.

speaker
Harry Gillis
Analyst at Berenberg

The number was 40 basis points, you said.

speaker
Florian Funck
CFO of Sartorius

That's what I said on Q2, right. And we are expecting, if the tariffs stay on the current level, that they will even out over the year versus prior year, so there will be no growth impulse from the tariff side in a scenario where tariffs stay on the 10% level.

speaker
Moritz
Chorus Call Operator

Understood, thank you. And the next question comes from Charles Pittman King from Barclays. Please go ahead.

speaker
Charles Pittman King
Analyst at Barclays

Yeah, hi, guys. Charles Pittman King from Barclays. Thanks for taking my question. I actually just have a question on the tariff dynamics and the strategy that Sartorius is taking. So just can you confirm when the potential for the tariff unwind became part of the Sartorius strategy, given it kind of caught a few people off guard today? And then just more broadly, why does it appear Sartorius is alone in announcing these dynamics in 2Q? and given you are being so transparent, can you confirm whether or not this decision to reverse the payment is helping you differentiate versus peers when you're building your customer relationships? Thank you.

speaker
Michael Grosse
CEO of Sartorius

Yeah. Thanks, Charles. I can take that. I mean, first of all, really, I have to say we were caught by surprise. So again, I think as many of our peers in the industry have applied for the refunding when this was publicized, We did indeed as well and again we were very uncertain about the outcome of that application and therefore as well I mean it was really rather to the tail end of June when we received that payment and we then had on that basis to do and reflect that in our accounting. So in this respect it was not neither part of our guidance and strategy because it was not clear this at all when we did the guidance nor it was clear whether it would happen and to which degree. So this is really the situation. That's why we are now dealing with that implication. We therefore as well make that division into the guidance on an operational basis and the tariff refund compensation part of it. To your second part of the questions, we really think that it's our understanding of the way of how we want to operate and be seen as our customers in a true partnership. We have been transparent about this. They paid the surcharges, and for us, it's really a momentum of trust and partnership that we as well now find the right way of compensating them for these payments.

speaker
Charles Pittman King
Analyst at Barclays

Thank you.

speaker
Moritz
Chorus Call Operator

Thanks, Charles. And then the next question comes from James Wayne-Tempers from Jefferies International Limited. Please go ahead.

speaker
James Wayne-Tempers
Analyst at Jefferies International

Hi, thanks for taking my questions, James from Jefferies. Perhaps if I can just ask around the acceleration we've seen in APAC. BPS, constant currency growth, looks like it was around 16%, 16.5% in 2Q versus around 10.5%. I mean, you mentioned China, but can you give some color on South Korea and if you're seeing any customer stocking there? and maybe if I can just sneak in a follow-up just on gross margins that there was I think some expectation this year would see some improvement from the gross margin impact last year writing off specialized consumable inventories which I think had around a 200 basis point impact. So are you seeing any benefits of that in the first half? Thanks very much.

speaker
Rene Faber
Head of Bioprocessing Division & CEO of Sartorius Stedim Biotech

I will take the first part of the question on the APEC, particularly China, you asked about So first of all, yeah, we're very pleased to see the momentum in APEC, strong growth, expect that continues in H2 moving forward. China, continued recovery also in the Q2, consumables key growth driver there. Now, stocking, we have seen some pockets of that not really meaningful. for us. So overall, I think it's a healthy growth in the region. Thanks. Can I just clarify?

speaker
James Wayne-Tempers
Analyst at Jefferies International

Sorry, just to clarify. So seeing some elements of stocking, is that China? Because the question was sort of South Korea, or is this just a more regional commentary on a bit of stocking?

speaker
Rene Faber
Head of Bioprocessing Division & CEO of Sartorius Stedim Biotech

More pockets of different customers than concentrated in any region. Thank you. Sorry to jump in there.

speaker
Florian Funck
CFO of Sartorius

This is James, and on your gross margin question, so we have been talking also at Capital Markets Day about that there was burdening effects coming from the higher inventory, and as this is usually effect, these things are washing out over time, not in the single quarters, but rather over a couple of quarters, if not years. but specifically looking at gross margin and comparing to prior year, I would like to point to the fact that we had a negative margin impact in the year 26 driven by FX effects and that there have been compensating positive FX hatching effects that were not visible in gross margin but below gross margin so that there is an overall net zero effect visible on the underlying EBTA margin, but a negative effect visible in the H1 margin.

speaker
James Wayne-Tempers
Analyst at Jefferies International

That's great. Thank you, Florian.

speaker
Moritz
Chorus Call Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, as we are already over time, we have unfortunately only time for three more questions. The next question will come from Oliver Metzger from AutoBHF. Please go ahead.

speaker
Oliver Metzger
Analyst at AutoBHF

Good afternoon. Thanks for squeezing me in. It's about equipment. First, at the Q1 prints, you said that you expect H2 equipment growth above H1 growth. Do you reiterate that? And would you confirm that we see now consumable growth pretty strong for a while and technically every month improves visibility also on your order book? that the conversion of equipment growth rates towards consumable growth is ongoing or do you see any pushbacks which might lead to some purification of growth rates for a longer time?

speaker
Michael Grosse
CEO of Sartorius

Thank you. Thanks, Oliver. First part of the question is really related to the growth in the equipment. Again, just to clarify what we said and what we see, I said that we would be at least flat across the year and starting with the H1, we confirmed that indeed we've seen that slight growth of 2%, around 2% that we highlighted. And then we said, not necessarily in growth rate, but we said we talked more about the absolute levels in the second half of the year versus the first half of the year. And that indeed is the fact. So overall, therefore, we are comfortable with the guidance of the growth, as we said earlier, and as well live up as well to the expectation that second half of the year will be about first half of the year. Second part was around the, can you just repeat the, again, your point on the consumer.

speaker
Oliver Metzger
Analyst at AutoBHF

Okay, I wanted to make it short. Structurally, consumables and equipment should grow over the cycle at pretty similar rates. And we see now for a while that the consumable demand is very healthy, ongoing, partially already in the double-digit territory. But equipment is still lagging, and so the delta between equipment sales and consumer sales has widened more and more. When do you see more of the inflection point that the growth rates convert closer to each other?

speaker
Rene Faber
Head of Bioprocessing Division & CEO of Sartorius Stedim Biotech

That has to do something with the increasing utilization rate, right? That's related to the kind of what you are describing. And you are right. We see that continued growth of consumables, which are linked to equipment installed base. So, you know, approaching the point and we see these orders coming also where customers need to add additional equipment to increase capacities. We are in our communication rather now saying we want to see these orders to then give you more color and outlook on the equipment.

speaker
Oliver Metzger
Analyst at AutoBHF

Okay, got it. Thanks.

speaker
Moritz
Chorus Call Operator

And the next question comes from Thibault Bozerine from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

speaker
Thibault Bozerine
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Yes, thank you. My question is just on bioprocessing in Americas. Even if we exclude the tariff refund impact, H1 was around missing a digit on easier growth comp in H1 last year, soft test region for this first half. and H2 is facing tougher comps. So just if you could help us understand the growth trajectory of the BPS business in North America and related to that, just if you could tell us if you're seeing anything in terms of orders related to the unshoring in the U.S. Thank you.

speaker
Florian Funck
CFO of Sartorius

I think looking generally at the America's performance in BPS, we were talking not only about the refund topic, but also about the ATS topic. And just to give you a little bit more feeling, if we are adjusting for the ATS topic, we will see healthy growth rates in North America even slightly above the European ones. So underlying business is doing well.

speaker
Thibault Bozerine
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Thank you. And are you seeing anything on orders related to insuring? Or is it still too early?

speaker
Michael Grosse
CEO of Sartorius

Yeah, again, I think on the reshoring discussion, we see that, indeed, we see translation now of the talks from last year more into types of projects on the brownfield side. So there's reality and realism in this. Again, when we see the related lead times and the time of ordering for our type of equipment with the lead times that we have, we see that the majority of those orders will be rather relevant for us probably in 2027, second half, and then realization then of sales of those orders to materialize in 2028 and beyond. Thank you. Thank you.

speaker
Moritz
Chorus Call Operator

And today's final question comes from Charles Weston from RBC. Please go ahead.

speaker
Charles Weston
Analyst at RBC

Thank you for the quick follow-up. It was just on Iran. I think you quantified the risk at 10 million for 2026 in Q1, Florian. Just wondering if you have seen that come through or whether there's been any change in that estimate, please.

speaker
Florian Funck
CFO of Sartorius

Charles, no change to that. Number still valid. Great. Thank you.

speaker
Moritz
Chorus Call Operator

Thank you, Charles. Ladies and gentlemen, this was the last question. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Michael Grosse for any closing remarks.

speaker
Michael Grosse
CEO of Sartorius

Thank you very much for your time and looking forward to hear you and see you all latest in the next quarter. All the best and good luck.

speaker
Moritz
Chorus Call Operator

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