5/10/2021

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Operator

Good morning and welcome to the Accent Therapeutics conference call. Currently, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, there will be a question and answer session and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Mark Jacobson, Chief Operating Officer at Accent Therapeutics. Please go ahead.

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Mark Jacobson
Chief Operating Officer

Thank you, Operator. Good morning and thank you all for joining us on today's conference call. Our earnings press release providing a corporate update and details of the company's financial results for the first quarter of 2021 crossed the wire a short time ago and is available on our website at axom.com. During today's call, we will be making certain forward-looking statements. These statements may include statements regarding, among other things, the efficacy, safety, and intended utilization of our investigational agents, are clinical and non-clinical plans, our plans to present or report additional data, the anticipated conduct and source of future clinical trials, regulatory plans, future research and development plans, commercial plans, and possible intended use of cash and investments. These forward-looking statements are based on current information, assumptions, and expectations that are subject to change and involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the forward-looking statements. These and other risks are described in our periodic findings made with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our quarterly and annual reports. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which are only made as of today's date when the company disclaims any obligation to update such statements. Joining me on the call today are Dr. Herriot Tabuteau, Chief Executive Officer, Nick Pizzie, Chief Financial Officer, Laurie Engelbert, Senior Vice President of Commercial and Business Development, Dr. Amanda Jones, Senior Vice President of Critical Development, and Dr. Cedric O'Gorman, Senior Vice President of Medical Affairs. Herriot will first provide an overview of the company and then review recent developments and upcoming milestones. Following Herriot, Lori will provide a commercial update and then Nick will review our financial results. He will then open the line for questions. Questions will be taken in the order they are received. And with that, I will turn the call over to Herriot.

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Mark. Good morning, everyone, and thank you all for joining Axome Therapeutics' first quarter 2021 financial results and business update conference call. The timing of this call coincides with Mental Health Month, and Axome is proud to observe May as Mental Health Month by partnering with advocacy groups and helping to raise awareness and support for people living with depression and other mental health conditions. In the first quarter, We continue to make significant strides towards becoming a premier CNS biopharmaceutical company focused on delivering potentially life-changing medicines to people living with serious CNS conditions. The dedicated work of the Axlum team resulted in the submission of our NDA for AXS05 for the treatment of major depressive disorder, or MDD. The NDA was granted priority review by the FDA, and the FDA has set up a Dufa target action date for the NDA of August 22, 2021. The NDA for our second lead product candidate, AXS07, for the acute treatment of migraine is on track for submission to the FDA this quarter. And we expect to announce the FDA's decision regarding its acceptance of the filing in the third quarter. With two NDA filings and a PDUFA target action date for AXS05 in late August, Axome is quickly approaching commercialization stage. Laurie will provide some details on our pre-commercial activities to ensure launch readiness assuming a successful NDE review. The rest of our differentiated late-stage pipeline continues to advance. AXS05 is also being developed for the treatment of Alzheimer's disease agitation and enrollment in the Phase III Accord trial is progressing. Our AXS12 product candidate for narcolepsy is progressing towards initiation of the planned Phase III trial early in the third quarter. For our AXS14 product candidate for the treatment of fibromyalgia, we recently met with the FDA to discuss its further clinical development plan, and we are awaiting written feedback from the meeting. Our portfolio comprises four late-stage product candidates under development for six distinct indications representing unmet medical needs that affect a large percentage of Americans We are energized by their potential to deliver significant benefit to patients and by our planned commercialization approach. I will now turn the call over to Lori, who will provide a commercial update.

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Laurie Engelbert
Senior Vice President, Commercial and Business Development

Thank you, Ario, and good morning, everyone. This is an exciting time at Axiom as we continue to prepare for a successful launch of AXS05 and major depressive disorder. I will give you an update on our commercial activities as it relates to launch readiness. The prevalence of depression symptoms in U.S. adults has been steadily on the rise for many years. However, recent studies have shown that in 2020, almost one-third of U.S. adults experienced depressive symptoms. That's a greater than four-fold increase versus 2019. As a result of a rapid increase in mental health conditions and the associated personal and economic burden associated with them, there is an undeniable urgent need to bring awareness and support to those affected. If approved, AXS05 would be an important new treatment option for the many Americans living with depression. We are committed to bringing this meaningful innovation to patients by commercializing the product in a timely manner. With an expected PDUFA date of August 22nd, We anticipate launch in the fourth quarter of this year. Consistent with Axiom's culture, our commercial launch strategy is innovative and purposeful. I've spoken previously about the plan for our digital-centric commercialization or DCC platform to be used as means to optimize engagements across all customer types. Our commitment to and belief in a digital focus has only amplified over the past year as research continues to indicate a strong preference for and trend in this direction with our core customers. Our foundational technology infrastructure is now fully implemented and we continue to build out our digital capabilities. Using sophisticated data and analytics, streamlined systems, and digital enablement tools, our DCC platform will allow for a more effective, efficient, and meaningful engagement with physicians and consumers. Along with building out our DCC platform, Over the past year, we've constructed a commercial team that combines breadth and depth of commercial experience with a desire to innovate. I am extremely proud of our commercial team, and I am impressed with their thought leadership and passion for helping those affected by CMS conditions. Functional senior leadership across marketing, market access, commercial operations, and sales are all in place. Launch activities are focused on a potential Q4 launch of AXS05, if approved, but preparations also include launch readiness for a potential AXS07 launch. Our marketing team is focused on disease education and post-PEDUFA launch promotional planning. The market access team continues to engage in ongoing permitted discussions with payers, ensuring awareness of AXM and of AXS05 product profile, along with actively setting up comprehensive patient support services. The commercial operations team is expertly working to implement and execute our DCC vision. And lastly, our sales team has determined the optimal size, structure, and design of our sales force and are now concentrating on field force preparedness as hiring at both the field leadership and rep level has commenced. And finally, outside of commercial, the medical affairs group is focused on data presentations at upcoming congresses and continuing MSL engagement with KLL. I will now turn it over to Nick, who will review our financials.

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Nick Pizzie
Chief Financial Officer

Nick Pizzie Thank you, Laurie. Good morning, everyone. Today, we'll discuss our first quarter 2021 results and provide some financial guidance. We ended the first quarter with approximately $165 million in cash compared to roughly $184 million in cash at the end of the fourth quarter, a net decrease of approximately $19 million. R&D expenses were $16.6 million for the quarter ending March 31, 2021 versus $27.5 million for the comparable period in 2020. The decrease in R&D expense was driven by a one-time charge in the prior period of $10.2 million related to the Pfizer license agreement, along with several of our clinical trials that were ongoing in the comparable period that have subsequently been completed. The current quarter includes a $2.9 million charge related to the PDUFA application fee for the NDA submission for AXS05. Subsequent to the end of the quarter, we have received confirmation from the FDA that our small business waiver request has been accepted and we will be refunded this PDUFA application fee. G&A expenses were $11.2 million for the quarter ending March 31, 2021, and $5 million for the comparable period in 2020. The change was primarily due to the increase in pre-commercial activities and stock compensation expense. Net loss was $29.3 million, or $0.78 loss per share for the quarter ended March 31, 2021, compared to a net loss of $32.5 million, or $0.88 loss per share for the comparable period in 2020. As a reminder, we currently have a $225 million term loan facility, of which $175 million in funding remains available. This committed, non-diluted capital gives us additional financial flexibility through both anticipated potential commercial launches of AXS05 and for AXS07. We believe our current cash position of $165 million, along with the remaining committed capital from our $225 million term loan facility is sufficient to fund our anticipated operations based on our current operating plan into at least 2024. That concludes our first quarter 2021 financial review. I will now turn the call back to Mark to lead the Q&A discussion.

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Mark Jacobson
Chief Operating Officer

Thank you, Nick. Operator, may we please have our first question?

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Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, at this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by the number one on your touchstone phone. To withdraw your question, press the pound or hash sign. Thank you. Your first question comes from the line of Charles Duncan from Tantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

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Charles Duncan
Analyst, Tantor Fitzgerald

Fabulous. Good morning, Herriot and team. Congrats on really good progress in the quarter. Had a quick question regarding the upcoming PDUFA date for 05 for MBD. Would you anticipate an ADCOM in advance of that? Has the FDA communicated anything, or even if they haven't, are you prepared to conduct an ADCOM?

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Charles, for the question. We have not gotten any communication from the FDA indicating that there will be an ADCOM. Now, that can change, and if that were to change, we'd be in a position to let the fleet know as soon as possible. And with regards to preparations for an ADCOM, as you know, when you file the NDA, there's a lot of preparation that goes into That's a very significant filing. And so based upon that work, we think that we would be prepared for whatever happens during the review cycle. Adcoms are a potential expected part of any review cycle. But for the time being, we have not gotten any indication that there would be an adcom.

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Charles Duncan
Analyst, Tantor Fitzgerald

Okay, that's helpful. Let me ask a quick question for Lori, and then I'll hop back in the queue, and that is regarding the commercial readiness. When you think about 05 versus 07, can you perhaps highlight some of the synergies in the preparations that you're doing, but then also perhaps how would you address any differences in the prescriber base and how does that impact optimal sizing of the field force? I imagine also you haven't talked about those numbers, but can you provide any color on that?

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Laurie Engelbert
Senior Vice President, Commercial and Business Development

Hey, Charles, thank you. Thank you for the question. Can you hear me okay? Yes. I'm a bit under the weather, so I just want to make sure everyone can hear clearly.

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Charles Duncan
Analyst, Tantor Fitzgerald

Sound great.

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Laurie Engelbert
Senior Vice President, Commercial and Business Development

It's a great question. Rest assured, as we've been planning for commercialization, we've always planned for AXS 07 to potentially follow very closely behind AXS 05. And that includes everything from how we set up our DCC platform in terms of being able to enable quick execution from an 05 and an 07 standpoint, as well as how we're structuring our sales force. So whereas our self-force will obviously be originally constructed to call on our depression prescribing physicians, there is quite a bit of overlap with physicians in terms of migraine and depression. And so we do anticipate being able to quickly pivot when ASS07 is ready to launch.

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Charles Duncan
Analyst, Tantor Fitzgerald

Okay, last question for Nick, just kind of housekeeping. Nick, congrats on getting that money back from the agency, but I know we're dealing with the U.S. government here. When would you actually anticipate and could we assume that it come back perhaps to hit the balance sheet in this second quarter?

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Nick Pizzie
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, hi, Charles. Yeah, that's a good question. So they have accepted the waiver, as I said in the opening remarks. So now we are just waiting for reimbursement. So the process has been started to receive the $2.9 million back, and we should be receiving it back shortly. I can't give a specific time on when we would be receiving that back.

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Charles Duncan
Analyst, Tantor Fitzgerald

Okay, sounds good. Thanks for taking my questions. Congrats on the progress.

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Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jun Li from Cherry Securities. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

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Jun Li
Analyst, Cherry Securities

Hi, thanks for taking our questions and congrats on the progress. So the first question is, you know, the prevalence of depression is more than fourfold pre-pandemic levels, as you say, and that's corroborated by many other sources, but does that necessarily imply that there are that many diagnosable MDD patients and I'm just curious if those people who claim to be depressed actually represent a pool of patients who could be medically diagnosed and be prescribed AXS05. And I have a follow-up, thank you.

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Jun, for the question. If you look at the CDC data, which we referenced, If you look at the percentage of patients or the percentage of U.S. adults with depression symptoms that they've measured, which was about 6.9 or roughly 7% in 2019, that actually corresponds to the prevalence of MDD, of major depressive disorder. So it's the same CDC numbers, and those have gone up to roughly 30% or so, and that's of Patients or US adults with symptoms of depression. So we don't know the answer to the question of whether or not all these individuals would be diagnosed with MDD, but the original starting point did correlate pretty well with the prevalence of MDD. So I'd like to turn it over to Lori to see if she's got anything more to add to that.

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Laurie Engelbert
Senior Vice President, Commercial and Business Development

Hi, June. Thanks for the question. It is something that we are obviously actively watching to watch either diagnosed and drug treated. But what we do know through data is that in 2020, the overall prescription market grew about 6% to 7%. So that would indicate that more patients are coming into the hospital.

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Jun Li
Analyst, Cherry Securities

OK, great. I'm looking forward to the numbers. And then the second question is that it's great that you got the priority review, but that does shorten the time for inspections of the clinical sites and, more importantly, the manufacturing sites. So can you tell us a little bit about your CMO? Can you disclose who they are? And if you can't, maybe their capabilities, experience level, and whether they've been inspected recently or not? Thank you.

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

Our CMO is a blue-chip CMO, and so they get regularly inspected. So they get inspected at least once a year.

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Unknown Participant

Okay.

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

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Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mark Goodman from SVB Layering. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

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Rowana
Analyst, SVB Leerink

Hi, this is Rowana on the line for Mark. Thanks for taking the question. I'm curious a little bit more detail about the launch plan for AXS05. Could you let us know what the cadence is of your payer engagement activities and maybe the scope of educational programs that you're doing ahead of the 05 launch?

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Laurie Engelbert
Senior Vice President, Commercial and Business Development

Hi, Rowana. Thank you for the question. So from a payer engagement standpoint, we have We have been and continue to engage with payers in a permitted fashion, both producing Axum overall as well as really educating them on the episode 05 clinical profile. Payers are extremely interested. As we mentioned earlier, there is a mental health crisis happening in America and that causes tremendous personal and economic burden to the system. Payers, obviously, are very interested in understanding and learning more about products that may help alleviate efforts.

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Dr. Cedric O'Gorman
Senior Vice President, Medical Affairs

And then with regards to the educational programs, depending on the medical conferences that are upcoming, there's an opportunity for sponsored educational programs that raise awareness to disease state. And we recently had a significant presence with the American Psychiatric Association where we had a sponsored product theater based around the unmet need within MDD, the limitations of current treatments, and future directions in terms of clinical development. And by all accounts, based on metrics that we received from the American Psychiatric Association, Axon product theater was amongst the best attended at that conference. So there's many more conferences where we can have those kind of educational programs promoted.

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Rowana
Analyst, SVB Leerink

Got it. Thanks. And one more, if I can. Wasn't sure if you disclosed this yet, but curious, how many target accounts do you plan to detail at the initial launch of O5? Yeah, that's a great question.

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Laurie Engelbert
Senior Vice President, Commercial and Business Development

I'm not going to disclose that right now. What I can tell you is that the size and structure of our field force has long been set. It was actually part of the impetus for our DCC platform. The BCC platform was really developed to help maximize our Salesforce's efficiency. But rest assured, we will not sacrifice either quality and or reach with our target position. Got it. Thanks.

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Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Vino Devon from Mizuho Securities. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

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Unknown Participant

Great, thanks for taking the questions. Maybe two if I could. Just one on the AXS05 filing, obviously great that you got accepted in prior to your review. I'm just curious if you've had further discussions at all with the FDA around the ASCEND trial. I think just given some of the surprises we've seen from the regulators recently, there's been some concerns around is that trial big enough, robust enough to be considered pivotal? I assume it is, but if you can, and these are updates on your Thank you for the questions. With regards to XSO5 and the NDA, what

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

What we can tell you is that it's obvious. The filing was accepted. It was granted prior to review. So therefore, the FDA clearly has everything that it needs in order to conduct a substantive review. Of course, we can't comment on the specifics of our communications with the FDA one way or another. And with regards to the ASCEND trial, I do remind you that this is a breakthrough therapy designated product and we did previously disclose that the ASCEND trial after the breakthrough meeting was declared a pivotal trial. With regards to AXS07, we're very much on track to file the NDA this quarter as we've previously stated and there really isn't any update there. The team is working.

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Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Yatin Sunja from Guggenheim Partners. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

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Yatin Sunja
Analyst, Mizuho Securities

Hey guys, thank you for taking my question. Can you maybe helped us understand the enrollment timeframe for the narcolepsy phase 3 program. It seems like it got pushed a little bit, any gating factor to initiating that study. So that's number one. The second is, if you can comment a little bit on the pricing work that you might have done for 05, are there certain price points where you are seeing sensitivity in the market research? and would you keep the price below speciality tiers and what you might do or what you could do with regards to the co-pay and the help you could provide? Thanks.

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

So thanks, Yann, for the question. So I'll turn it over to Laurie to answer the pricing question. With regards to the narcolepsy study, so we are on track to start that trial early in the third quarter. So initially, the guidance that we were given was the second quarter to start the phase three trial. And frankly, that will slip into roughly the first month of the third quarter. So that's well within the normal variability which you would expect with planning for a complex study as a phase three trial. Lori, with the rest of pricing.

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Laurie Engelbert
Senior Vice President, Commercial and Business Development

Hi, Yotten. Thanks for the question. It's a bit premature for us to disclose any details around pricing, but you can, we plan to do that closer to launch. But what I can tell you is that we are working really hard to make sure that we ensure fair and timely access permissions while adequately capturing the value of the product. And along with that is, you know, obviously engaging in Educating Payers with the Clinical Profile of HSO5. But as Frederick mentioned earlier, we are continuing to present additional data at Congresses that are upcoming that we will use as supportive information for the payers.

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Yatin Sunja
Analyst, Mizuho Securities

One more question.

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Laurie Engelbert
Senior Vice President, Commercial and Business Development

No, I was just going to answer your patient support and co-pay questions. Just wanted to assure you that we, as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, we are preparing patient support services to make sure that patients receive that product in an easy fashion.

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Yatin Sunja
Analyst, Mizuho Securities

Got it. The question I have is on the Viva, your partnership with the Viva system. If you can just maybe talk a little bit, how are you going to leverage it? What does this system exactly do? Are there other companies that have successfully used the Viva platform in launching the product? Just trying to understand the edge.

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Laurie Engelbert
Senior Vice President, Commercial and Business Development

It's important to keep in mind that whereas Viva is a critical foundational component of our DCC platform, it's not the only component. Companies all over the world are leveraging Viva right now, and we have been extremely pleased with the partnership that we have with them in setting the foundation for DCC. We are also working to add systems and to complement the VIVA system with a digital capability that does enable real-time data to be fed and sophisticated analytics to be fed back out to sales reps so that they can make efficient and effective promotional calls.

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Yatin Sunja
Analyst, Mizuho Securities

Thank you.

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Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ram Selvaraju from HC Wainwright. Please go ahead. Your line is now open. Ram Selvaraju from HC Wainwright, please go ahead. Your line is now open. And caller, you may be muted.

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

Okay. So why don't we move on to the next question, and then we'll get back to Ron.

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Operator

Certainly. Your next question here comes from Joe Thelm from Cohen & Company. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

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Joe Thelm
Analyst, Cohen & Company

Hi there, good morning, and thank you for taking my question. The first one, I know we touched a little bit on the difference between the increase in depressive symptoms that have been seen over the past year versus a formal MDD or TRD diagnosis. Do you expect that this impacted the enrollment of the merit trial, or how are you thinking about and then my second one is on AXS14. Can you just remind us what the base case expectations are here and do patients or the FDA have a certain symptom that they are looking at kind of most carefully? Thank you.

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

Sure. So with regards to merit enrollment, as a reminder, that study and just to remind folks, the merit trial is the Phase 2 trial in treatment of resistant depression. So that study uses a randomized design and so that study has been fully enrolled. Currently what we are waiting for are relapses to occur in that trial and that determines the timing of data rehab. And you asked a question about FS14, so this is our product candidate for fibromyalgia. Could you just be more specific in terms of what you'd like to know about?

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Joe Thelm
Analyst, Cohen & Company

Yeah, I guess in terms of next steps, what are your base case expectations is sort of another thing. Is three expected? Can you file on the current package? And then I guess in your conversations with the FDA, was there a certain symptom that appeared that they were most concerned about, whether it's pain or fatigue? What do you think will drive that if they don't update you?

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

We met with the FDA in the second quarter as we had planned around 2014 and currently we are anticipating and waiting for the final meeting minutes and we'll have more to say once we get the final meeting minutes but we'd like to get the written feedback prior to providing any details and with regards to symptoms in general for fibromyalgia accurately point out. Fibromyalgia, it does incorporate pain, but not just pain, but other symptoms such as fatigue . The current regulatory endpoints for fibromyalgia studies they do incorporate those other symptoms. So there is pain, obviously, and that is one regulatory endpoint, but another regulatory endpoint, for example, is a functional endpoint which incorporates many other symptoms of fibromyalgia. Great. Thank you.

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Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Chris Powerton from Jefferies. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

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Chris Powerton
Analyst, Jefferies

Wonderful. Thanks so much for taking the questions. I think a lot of them have been asked at this point, but I guess You know, as we move towards commercialization, does the team have a plan to give us more color and solid information around kind of how it is that they've devised the commercial infrastructure and team and kind of what will be the key metrics moving forward? So just trying to get an understanding of when might we learn more about the commercial efforts and the structure and all that. The second question that I would have is with respect to the merit trial and the readout, you know, obviously we're expecting the PDUFA 405 soon in August. So how might that information alter your activities in the commercial setting if it is approved at that time? Thanks.

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Laurie Engelbert
Senior Vice President, Commercial and Business Development

Hi, Chris. Thanks for the question. So in terms of when we'll disclose, you know, size and structure, you can expect that at or around That's typically when we would be prepared to reveal that information. I think what I can tell you is that we recently, within the past three weeks, have started our hiring efforts for the Salesforce at the field leadership level as well as the rep level. The response has been overwhelming in terms of the amount of applicants as well as the quality of the applicants. So we're quite pleased at the response that we've received, as well as it gives us great assurance that we'll be able to meet our timeline, as we set out to meet, and then also make sure that we have the right type of people in the position, given our unique approach and vision. In terms of metrics around how we're going to measure the Gustav launch, you can expect us to start thinking about reeling that closer to launch.

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

Okay, thank you. And in regards to your question on the MERIT study. So the MERIT trial, this is a phase two trial, which we launched at the same time that we had launched our other studies, the Comet studies, for example, the Comet sub-studies, with the goal of generating data to provide to clinicians across a wide spectrum of patients with MDD. So that was the reason for launching that trial. And so once it reads out in terms of its potential impact on the launch, that impact will be that it will allow us to publish and provide additional data to clinicians on how AXS05 performs in a variety of different types of patients with MDD.

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Yatin Sunja
Analyst, Mizuho Securities

Okay. That's wonderful. Thank you very much for taking the questions.

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Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Matt Kaplan from Lada Nerd Salmon. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

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Unknown Analyst

Hi. Good morning, guys. Just wanted to follow up a little bit more on your interaction with PEARS. Specifically, Laurie, maybe can you give us a sense in terms of how we should think about the rollout of coverage over time, maybe initially, and then the first six to 12 months? with respect to commercial and other coverage for AXS05. And then also, I guess, with AXS07 kind of close on the heels potentially, you know, filing approval, what are your thoughts and interaction with payers on 07 as well?

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Laurie Engelbert
Senior Vice President, Commercial and Business Development

Hey, Matt. Thanks. So in terms of coverage, it's I know I've said this a lot on this call, but it is really premature for us to really disclose that. But it's also premature because our discussions are ongoing. And so we're thinking through that in terms of a patient support services offering so that we make sure that patients are covered. But we do anticipate that the product will be covered. We have high confidence that the product will be covered. And we do believe that payers are extremely interested in the product profile. In terms of AXS07, those discussions have, you know, we perform market research, but we have not discussed AXS07 with payers specifically outside of just an overall Axiom portfolio introduction.

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Unknown Analyst

Okay, very good. Thanks. And then maybe, Ari, in terms of next indications for 05, Can you talk a little bit about where you are and how the AD agitation phase 3 program is progressing and then kind of next steps for smoking cessation as well?

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

Sure. Thanks, Matt, for those questions. I'm going to turn it over to Amanda Jones to provide color on those two programs. Great. Thank you.

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Dr. Amanda Jones
Senior Vice President, Clinical Development

Hi, so in regards to the AD agitation program, it is progressing nicely. It's still a little bit early for us to give any formal guidance on the overall status just based on the nature of the study design, which involves patients responding and then being randomized and going on to relapse. And then the second question was around smoking cessation? Yes.

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Operator

Yes.

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Dr. Amanda Jones
Senior Vice President, Clinical Development

So we are planning to meet with the FDA in the third quarter. And then based on our interactions with them, we'll provide an update on that program.

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

And if I just may add to Amanda's comments regarding Alzheimer's disease agitation. So in addition to the progress that's being made in the trial, while it is still early, the metrics that we're seeing internally corroborate our initial guidance of data readout in the second half of 2022.

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Laurie Engelbert
Senior Vice President, Commercial and Business Development

OK. Thanks for that detail.

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Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Miles Minter from William Blair. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

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Nick Pizzie
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks for taking the questions. Just one on the payer landscape and for 05, it seems reasonable that a payer's probably going to force step through with a few therapies and by the time a clinician's going to prescribe this product, it's technically a TRD population. So I'm wondering, have you got any pushback from clinicians that, you know, so we haven't necessarily seen controlled positive data there and I guess if that's the case what's your current message that you're educating to those clinicians to get them over the line to prescribe this upon potential launch?

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Laurie Engelbert
Senior Vice President, Commercial and Business Development

Hey Myles, so I'll certainly answer some of your questions but I'd like to turn it over to Cedric in terms of what the MSLs are hearing on those lines.

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Dr. Cedric O'Gorman
Senior Vice President, Medical Affairs

Yeah, and I'd like to share, Miles, that, you know, the nature of clinical trials, people who actually enroll in clinical trials for MDD tend to have difficulty in responding to existing treatments. So, in essence, patients who are coming into MDD are already patients who are somewhat resistant. There hasn't been a great degree of pushback because people realize that new treatments coming out, pretty branded treatments, tend to market. And I think that the data that we've generated to date in MDD versus bupropion in the ASCENT study versus placebo shows a differentiated clinical profile both in terms of rapidity, onset of action, but also in the early improvements in quality of life and functioning. So I think overall the clinical profile and differentiation of AXS05 is important. from what we're hearing in the field is a compelling argument as to why they use this drug. They see a difference from what's already out there.

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

Right, and if I may add to one of the things that we're hearing from KOLs and from the MSLs in the field based upon our recent data presentation on the Comet studies, for example, our common studies in TRD is that there's a very compelling profile that is emerging with a lot of evidence showing that the drug works actually just as well in those patients who have TRD and will fail multiple lines of treatment as in the patients who are treated front line. And then the other thing too that we are hearing from experts in the field who are familiar with TRD and just depression in general is that it is actually rather impressive that we have had now essentially four phase three trials, all of which have been positive. So even if you look at the Scribe 1 trial in TRD, The drug clearly separated from an active control and using a higher dose. And the effect that was seen with regards to depressive symptoms was evident at week one and at week two. So it's important to remember that the In the TRD trial, statistical significance was achieved at week one and at week two in a TRD patient population. And not only that, improvements in quality of life and also in disability were much higher than has been seen with other agents. So overall, it's been very positive and actually The MSLs have been getting a lot of questions around stride because of its positivity of with what happens in variability, which is expected in this patient population.

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Laurie Engelbert
Senior Vice President, Commercial and Business Development

And Miles, I'll just pile on here as your third comment, person to comment on your question. What was just stated by both Cedric and Herriot is very consistent to what we're hearing with payers as well. They are taking the entire patient population and the studies that we've conducted in those populations into account.

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Nick Pizzie
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I think all of that's aligned with what I've been hearing as well. Maybe just another quick one. I know you're not commenting on the minutes because you're waiting for them. But in the cash guidance that you've provided today, does that actually include provisions for a potential additional clinical trial for AXS-14 in fibromyalgia? Thanks.

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

So our cash guidance certainly includes spend for AXS-14. So as you know, as we previously stated, we are synthesizing API. This is a new chemical entity, and we do want to make sure that we have a comfortable supply ready. since that would be necessary for registration. So that spend is necessary for any potential next step. With regards to the specifics of a clinical development plan, we will await getting written feedback from the agency before making any pronouncements.

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Nick Pizzie
Chief Financial Officer

Fair enough. Thanks for the questions.

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Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David Holm from SMBC. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

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David Holm
Analyst, SMBC

Hi. Thanks for the update and taking my questions. A lot of great questions asked already, so I just have a couple quick ones. So first on AXS05 and MDD, how much of the target prescriber population would you say is primary care physicians versus psychiatrists? And do you expect that there would be a lot of prescribing from the primary care side of the subscriber base?

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Laurie Engelbert
Senior Vice President, Commercial and Business Development

Yeah. Hi, David. Thanks for the question. It's a really, really good one. So we tend to not look at it as psych versus PCP. We tend to look at it as hyperscribers and for the highest propensity to prescribe in either category, psych or PCP. There are many PCPs out there who are mental health focused and are actually prescribed at the same level as some of the sites. So our targeting will encompass high prescribers along with the ones that we consider to be the best potential for prescribing.

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David Holm
Analyst, SMBC

Got it. Thanks. That's really helpful. And then just in terms of both 05 and 07, Are there any plans to eventually commercialize those products outside the U.S., you know, in ex-U.S. geographies, either on your own or through a partner?

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Laurie Engelbert
Senior Vice President, Commercial and Business Development

So I can answer that question as well. Yes, there is. You know, we publicly disclosed that we are looking for partners outside of the U.S., and those discussions are ongoing.

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David Holm
Analyst, SMBC

Okay, thanks. That's all from me.

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Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Robert Hazlett from BTIG. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

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Perry
Analyst, BTIG

Hi, this is Perry on the line for BERT. Thanks for taking the question. Just a brief question on the AXS05 Alzheimer's disease agitation trial. Should we expect an interim analysis at some point? And if so, what can we expect in terms of efficacy data at that point and any color in terms of timing for a potential interim analysis? Thanks.

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

There is not currently a plan for an interim analysis of this trial. However, the study is designed so that based upon what we see in terms of event rates, that one could be incorporated. So randomized withdrawal studies are driven by the number of events, and that is typically how they are powered. So right now, as we mentioned in the earlier remarks, it's too early to know what the cadence will be of relapses. No one has done a study like this before in Alzheimer's disease agitation. So we're very much looking forward to seeing how the study plays out. But right now, we have not signed the interim analysis.

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Perry
Analyst, BTIG

Okay, thanks for that. And then just one more on AXS-12. Could you just talk a bit about potential, you know, thoughts on endpoints in the trial, including timing? Any color would be helpful.

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

So for AXS-12, the primary endpoint of the study will be the change in the frequency of cataplexy attacks. So that is the same .

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Perry
Analyst, BTIG

OK. Perfect. Thanks for taking the questions, and congratulations on the progress. Thank you.

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Operator

And your last question here comes from the line of from HC Wainwright. Please go ahead. Your line is now open. Once again, Ram Selviraju from H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead with your question. Okay, and there are no further questions in the queue. I will turn the call back over to management for closing comments.

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Dr. Herriot Tabuteau
Chief Executive Officer

Well, thank you all again for joining our call this morning. We are excited as we move potentially towards commercialization. and as we advance the rest of our pipeline for the benefit of the many people living with serious CNS conditions. We look forward to keeping you updated on our progress in the months ahead.

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Operator

And this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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