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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the second quarter Lincoln Educational Services Earnings Conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you would need to press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would like now to turn the conference over to Michael Poli, VU Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

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Michael Poli

Thank you, Michelle. Good morning, everyone. Before the market opened today, Lincoln Educational Services issued its news release reporting financial results in recent corporate developments for the second quarter in six months and at June 30, 2024. The release is available on the Investor Relations portion of the company's corporate website at .lincontech.edu. Joining us today on the call are Scott Shaw, President and CEO, and Brian Myers, Chief Financial Officer. Today's call has been recorded and is being broadcast live on the company's website. A replay of the call will be archived on the company's website. Statements made by Lincoln Management on today's call regarding the company's business that are not historical facts may be forward-looking statements as determined as identified in federal securities laws. The words may, will, expect, believe, anticipate, project, plan, intend, estimate, and continue, as well as similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements should not be read as a guarantee of future performance. The company cautions you that these statements reflect certain expectations about the company's future performance or events and are subject to a number of uncertainties,

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Michael Poli

and other influences, many of which are beyond the company's control and may influence the accuracy of the statement and projection upon which the segment and statements are based. Factors that may affect the company's results include, but are not limited to, the risks and uncertainties discussed in the risk factor section of the annual report in Form 10-K and the quarterly report in Form 10-Q filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Forward-looking statements are based on the information available at the time those statements are made and management's good faith believe as at the time with respect to future events. All forward-looking statements are qualified in

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entirety by this cautionary statement and Lincoln undertakes the new obligation to publicly revise or update any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, after the date they're out. One other house-kick matter, during the Q&A portion of our call today, we would appreciate if questioners limited themselves to questions and then re-queued to ask any additional questions. In advance, we thank you for your cooperation. Now I'll let from the call over Scott Shaw, President and CEO of Lincoln Educational Services. Scott, go

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Scott Shaw

ahead. Thank you, Michael, and good morning, everyone. For several quarters, our team has been generating strong operating and financial momentum, leading to consistent revenue, student start, and profitability growth. We continued these trends during our second quarter and we are well on our way to meeting our 2024 guidance metrics. In fact, we are adjusting our guidance in a positive direction, which Brian will review in his remarks. The investments we've made in our transformative strategies over the past several years are driving our growth. Additionally, we continue to capitalize on America's expanding interest in career opportunities that avoid the cost and time of a four-year college degree and help the nation close the skills gap, inhibiting corporate growth. During the second quarter, without relying on acquisitions, we grew revenue 16% over the prior year period and students start to increase 12.3%. Our student retention rate continued to be strong and we ended the quarter with an average student population increase over last year in excess of 11%. Our top line performance, coupled with increased operating efficiencies driven by the implementation of our highly scalable hybrid instructional platform, Lincoln 10.0, led to adjusted EBITDA of 6 million. I'll let Brian address our adjusted EBITDA performance during his remarks, but I do want to note our second quarter result was approximately two and a half times greater than what we generated during last year's second quarter. Furthermore, our total SG&A expenses during the second quarter fell below 56%, as compared to 57.6%, and our educational services and facilities expenses as a percentage of revenue also declined, further demonstrating the operating leverage we are beginning to realize. When we complete the rollout of Lincoln 10.0 by the end of this year, the platform will be used in teaching approximately 65% of our students. We continue to see numerous indications that the platform improves our operating efficiencies while also playing a major factor in a student's decision to enroll at Lincoln. The platform reduces the time to complete many of our programs, speeding up graduates to begin their careers. This enhanced training productivity is also attractive to our corporate partners who remain constrained by the lack of skilled employees. While I've mentioned before how Lincoln 10.0 has fundamentally changed how we teach our students and position the company for the future, its transformational impact on our company bears repeating. The platform is serving as the foundation for our focused growth strategies of opening new campuses and replicating successful programs and existing campuses. For example, the East Point Georgia campus is our first new Greenfield campus developed in some 18 years. This brand new -the-art facility features 56,000 square feet of training space and includes 15 automotive service spaces and up to 60 welding booths, labs, classrooms, and work areas. We welcomed the first class during the first quarter, and by the end of June, we had already enrolled more students at East Point than we had initially budgeted for for the entire year. The campus' strong results prove the success of our site selection process and bodes well for our future new campuses and relocations. We designed East Point to be unique among trade schools, and for those who have visited the campus, it is apparent when you first enter the campus. We sought to create a setting that was both sleek and modern, elevating the student and teaching experience. Everything about the campus has been thoughtfully designed to deliver exceptional hands-on education and training with robust labs and shops. Moreover, we are utilizing the -in-class curriculum and training aids. For example, in our automotive program, we're the only school group in the United States utilizing Electude curriculum and their integrated trainers. Electude is the global leader in automotive training in high schools and colleges. Electude's cloud-based e-learning platform allows our instructors access to interactive and engaging foundational lessons, gamified formative and summative assessments, teaching resources, tools to build their own curriculum, analytical tools to identify learners' needs, and coursework in multiple languages. Moreover, their proprietary trainers seamlessly integrate with the curriculum and provide students with a clear understanding of all the major systems in a car. At the heart of the program is the principle of discovery learning, which is how younger generations have become so adept in mastering today's technology. Again, based on the robust response generated to date in the form of leads, applications, and starts, we are off to an excellent start with East Point, and the early results have increased our confidence in our new campus strategy. Our future Nashville and Levittown campuses are scheduled to open during the first half of 2025. As a reminder, both campuses are totally new from the ground up and replace existing operations in those markets and include additional programs at both campuses. Our fourth new campus in Houston is meeting its construction and build-out schedule, but local regulatory timelines are causing our startup of this campus to be pushed out. We now see starting our first class in Houston during the fourth quarter of 2025. A fifth new campus is in the initial stages of development, and our plan is to announce its location by our third quarter results conference call. This campus would open in 2026. In addition to the new campuses, replicating and expanding successful programs that are existing campuses remains a key growth strategy. Currently, we have related initiatives which Brian will provide more detail on. However, we continue to expect that each of these programs will generate approximately one million of profitability within three years of opening, if not sooner. Our focus on offering innovative, efficient student curriculums is enabling a growing number of graduates to enter rewarding in-demand careers. This focus is also attracting additional corporate partners and broadening our relationship with existing partners. Our corporate partnership development activity remained quite robust during the second quarter, and we expanded our relationship with Peterbilt Corporation to our Denver campus after successfully starting up that partnership at the Nashville campus a year ago. On our last call, we reviewed the five-year workforce development agreement signed with Container Maintenance Corporation. In June, we began the curriculum development for this program at CMC's Charleston, South Carolina facility. Over five years, the agreement is expected to generate approximately six million in revenue to Lincoln. While our company has successfully executed workforce development programs for organizations in the past, the CMC agreement represents a new scale and level for Lincoln. Rather than bringing employees to one of our campuses, we are leveraging our curriculum and training resources to upskill CMC employees at its facilities. This approach is an emerging opportunity for Lincoln and one, we believe, that has the potential to become a significant contributor to our business. We expect to be able to announce additional contracts before year end. Meanwhile, we continue to have enormous opportunities with our campus-focused growth strategies. Through the end of 2026, we expect to layer on three Greenfield campuses while relocating and expanding to others and have 10 program replications fully up and running. As each of these campuses and replications comes online, we consistently expand our opportunities to increase overall student starts. In addition, we remain focused on maintaining the solid organic start growth at existing programs. Our marketing programs continue to generate a high return on investment as leads continue to increase at a strong double digit level. Additionally, our expansion of outreach efforts in the states of Connecticut and Maryland in which we join forces with employers, government agencies, unions, and community colleges to increase awareness of the opportunities available through skilled trades careers has been a resounding success. In the case of Maryland, we've been engaged to coordinate a similar program next year with increased funding from the state. As you can see, we are achieving strong growth in revenues and profitability and remain on track to achieve our long-term goals of 550 million of revenue and 90 million of adjusted EBITDA in 2027. Our opportunities have never been better. From 1980 until 2020, our country pushed the need to go to a four-year school, no matter the cost or the outcome. During this time, the value of career education was pushed to the side, despite the growing need for more highly trained middle skill workers. The discussion around the skills gap grew during the first two decades of the 21st century as employers began to struggle to find technicians, electricians, welders, and healthcare workers. Then COVID hit and the shortage of middle skills workers became abundantly clear to everyone, which is why for the most part, our students remained employed during the pandemic since we needed food and medical supplies to be delivered, which requires trucks and vans to remain operational. Electricians and HVAC technicians were needed to keep our homes, hospitals, supermarkets, and other facilities up and running. Our healthcare system was stretched almost to the breaking point as the demand for nurses and healthcare workers skyrocketed. In short, Lincoln Tech trains the essential workers that allow us to live our lives in the manner to which we are accustomed. We see the need for what we are doing, we see the need for what we do growing despite the economic environment. There are unrefutable changes happening that are driving increased need for our students. For example, our population is aging and the need for healthcare and healthcare workers will only grow. Society's demand for the internet, AI, connectivity and communication will only grow as will demand for electricians, HVAC techs, and other workers to maintain server farms, install networks, and rebuild our power grid. The demand for cleaner energy will continue to increase, whether mandated by government or by citizens who see an opportunity to make a positive change for society. On this last point, I want to highlight a partnership that we have with Fujitsu, a world leader in HVAC systems and in particular, split unit systems utilizing inverter technology. These new systems are extremely efficient and can now be used in colder climates to very cost-effectively heat and cool homes and offices. Across the country, we are seeing mandates proposed that are discouraging installing heating and cooling systems that emit greenhouse gases and switch to mini split systems. Our partnership with Fujitsu will help ensure that our students are acquiring the skills that can be used today and into the future. Part of our very successful company is a skilled and experienced board of directors. At Lincoln, we have consistently excelled at attracting excellent board members and recently continued this tradition with the appointments of marketing executive, Marta Newhart, and former treasurer of the United States, Ana Cabral. Marta is a highly recognized marketing expert and her professional experience will help broaden our board's perspective and enhance our ability to achieve our long-term strategy. Ana's exemplary background in public service will be enormous asset to our organization and diverse community of students. Her work in government, building coalitions from diverse points of view will be a great benefit to Lincoln as we navigate through the highly regulated environment in which we operate. In summary, we are on our way to achieving our full year guidance and are well positioned for growth in 2025 and beyond. We are transforming our company into an exceptional provider of educational services that meets the needs of America's corporations as well as America's workforce. Finally, I'd like to note, I'll be in Chicago on August 28th for the annual Midwest Ideas Conference, as well as partaking in Barrington's virtual Fall Investment Conference on September 12th to educate investors about the enhanced valuation potential offered through our shares. Now I'll turn the call over to Brian Myers so he can review some of our recent financial highlights and guidance, Brian.

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Brian Myers

Thank you, Scott. Good morning, everybody, and thank you for joining our second quarter 2024 earnings call. This morning, I'm pleased to share our financial results along with some key operational highlights. Starting with the quarter's financial performance, total revenue was nearly 103 million, representing an increase of about 14 million or 16%, mainly driven by a robust stock growth over the last seven consecutive quarters. During the second quarter, student starts grew by 12.3%. This marks the third consecutive quarter of double-digit growth in both revenue and starts. As a result, we had approximately 1,500 more students as of June 30th, 2024 compared to prior year, propelling revenue growth for the second half and beyond. As Scott mentioned, the new East Point campuses were forming exceptionally well, exceeding enrollment goals and contributing to the company's top line. While the East Point campus contributed to our robust stock growth, we also continued to achieve solid organic stock growth from existing campuses. Excluding the new East Point campus, we grew our organic campus revenue by 13 million, with the incremental revenue contributing in an operating margin of over 30%. Now turn to the expenses for the quarter, which as a reminder for comparability purposes, exclude one expenses of our new East Point campus during its opening period, two pre-opening quests associated with the new and relocating campuses, three other non-recurring expenses, and four the transitional segment in 2023. Further details on these items are available in the non-GAAP disclosures of our Q2 earnings release. Total operating expenses were close to 99 million, which is reflective of our growing population, excuse me, and in line with expectations. Education service and facility expenses, as the percentage of revenue is down to 42% from .4% in the prior year. The majority of the decrease relates to instructional expenses, which increased over prior year due to quests associated with our larger student base, but decreased as a percentage of revenue as we begin to experience efficiencies and benefits from our higher population and our higher-grade learning model. Adjusted EBITDA was 6.2 million for the second quarter compared to 2.4 million in the prior year, representing more than 150% increase. We had an income tax benefit for the quarter of approximately 500,000, including a discrete item benefit associated with stock vesting. For the second half of the year, we expect our effective tax rate to be approximately 30%. Turning to the balance sheet. Our balance sheet remains robust, with total liquidity exceeding 100 million, cash and cash equivalent of 67 million, no debt, and working capital of around 50 million. Our capex for the three months was approximately 10 million, relating to multiple exciting projects which will drive growth next year and beyond. First, we continue to manage the build-out of 10 additional programs, which are either a program replication at an additional campus or an expansion of an existing campus. Based on the construction and patient approvals, we expect six programs to be rolled out by year end, and they're remaining to be launched in the first half of 2025. Second, we are working towards the opening of three new steady the office facilities in 2025, comprised of two campus relocations and one brand new location. We are seeing some delays in the timing or our capital spending, which will shift about 20 million to 2025, leaving us to reduce our capex guidance for the year. However, we were slightly ahead of schedule in two of the three projects. Starting with the Nashville and Levittown relocations, both projects continue to make great progress and now are expected to be completed in the first half of 2025. The new Houston campus build-out has experienced some delays, driving a majority of the capex shift into 2025. As a result, we now anticipate the campus to open towards the end of 2025. Looking ahead to the remainder of 2024, based on these project statuses, we are reducing our full year of capex guidance to 45 million to 55 million. Our second quarter operating financial results, as well as the outlook for the remainder of the year, leads us to raise our outlook for revenue and increase the low end range of adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income and student starts. The outlook for guidance has been updated to revenue ranging between 423 million to 430 million, adjusted EBITDA in the range of 39 million to 42 million, adjusted net income ranging between 14 million and 17 million and student starts growth of nine to 12%. As a reminder, our full year of financial guidance for adjusted EBITDA and adjusted net income excludes the impact of East Point campus pre-opening costs related to new and relocated campuses, program expansions and non-cash stock-based compensation. Also in terms of depreciation and anonymization, we expect a slight increase in the second half of the year, resulting in approximately 7.5 million of expense recorded fairly even over each quarter. Lastly, interest expense is anticipated to be near 500,000 in the second half, evenly dividing Q3 and Q4. In conclusion, we are very pleased with our performance in 2024. We have a solid growth plans and work and continue to explore new opportunities to expand and drive efficiencies. As we highlight in our Q2 Investor presentation under the strategic growth slide that we posted to our website later today, our long-term vision and goal is to generate revenue of approximately 550 million and adjusted EBITDA of about 90 million in 2027. Our team is working diligently together and we believe we are well positioned to achieve this target. We sincerely appreciate the entire Lincoln team, especially our faculty for making a difference each day and changing our students' lives. Now I'll turn the call back over to the operator for any questions. Operator?

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Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. And our first question comes from Alex Paris with Barrington Research. Your line is now open.

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Alex Paris

Hi guys, thanks for taking my question. I wanna congratulate you on the beaten raise.

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Scott Shaw

Thanks Alex, appreciate that. We're excited about it as well.

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Alex Paris

Couple of quick questions. Both you, Scott and Brian said at the end of the call that your targets for 2027 are 550 and 90 for revenue and adjusted EBITDA. Is that a rounding thing or are you increasing it? Because I think you said it at investor day, 540 and 88.

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Brian Myers

Right, it was actually increased slightly because the start of that strategic growth plan starts with the mid-range of our guidance. So as we increase that, it increases the 2027 as well. Yeah,

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so we did

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Scott Shaw

make an adjustment up since the investor meeting.

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spk07

Is this the first time you said it or did you say it previously? I don't recall.

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Brian Myers

No, I think this is the first time and it will be out on our website later today.

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Alex Paris

Great, well congratulations on that. Here are my two questions. First of all, I wanted to focus on starts. Starts were up more than we had expected. We expected 4,600 starts. You came in closer to 5,000 starts at 12%. What do you attribute that to? I'm assuming the increase in marketing. And then has that momentum continued into the third quarter? What's your experience in July and August?

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Scott Shaw

Sure, well definitely we achieved greater success than we were thinking. However, to support that, we are seeing continued success moving forward. There definitely is increased demand at a double digit level for our programs kind of across the board. And it really comes down to a lot of execution to achieve those as well as just timing of when some of the starts take place within the quarter. But the basic fact is we see strong demand continuing. That's why we raised our guidance. The midpoint of our guidance is 10, 11%. I guess closer to 11% and that's where we anticipate that will come out for the year.

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Alex Paris

And above and beyond the renaissance in skilled trades, the appeal of these blue collar jobs that can't be outsourced or replaced by AI, you've increased marketing year over year. I think you said in the press release it was up $2 million year over year.

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Scott Shaw

Yes. Yeah, there is enhanced, I'm sorry, Alex, you didn't finish?

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Alex Paris

I was just gonna say, and has that had any impact on the cost per lead? Or cost per start?

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Scott Shaw

Yeah, cost per start. The good news is we follow that very closely in the cost per start. It is relatively flat. Might be up a percentage or two, but nothing significant. And it kind of changes quarter by quarter. Again, it's kind of just timing of when we spend the money and when the students start. I think at the end of the day though, there is this increased demand. Some people don't think that people just naturally come to you just because people talk about it. We still have to be out there in front of people. But as long as we continue to maintain our cost per start, which we have over the last five years, we're gonna continue to make those investments and drive greater growth.

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Alex Paris

Makes sense. And here's my last one I know we're limited to. By program, population by program starts by program. The overall starts number of up 12% was really driven by the transportation and skilled trade site of the business up 21%. Healthcare and other professions were down 6% in the quarter. What do you would, and it was up 9% in the first quarter. So it was definitely declining in the second quarter. What do you attribute that to?

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Scott Shaw

A lot of it again is timing of when starts occur. In certain times we can have two nursing starts in the quarter, sometimes only one. So in a couple of the campuses are switching of when those starts were taking place year over year. At the end of the day, still expecting growth in the healthcare sector for the full year. I'm not worried about growing that area.

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Brian Myers

As Scott said, our biggest decline was in LPN and was due to the timing of the starts.

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Alex Paris

Gotcha. Do you still don't think that auto and skilled trades will increase at a greater rate than healthcare and other professions for the full year?

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Scott Shaw

Yes, simply because that's where we're replicating our programs as of now. We have future opportunity we believe to replicate the healthcare programs. But right now we're focused on the skilled trades and auto programs. So the answer is definitely yes.

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Alex Paris

Makes sense guys. Thank you very much.

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Operator

Thanks Alex. Thanks Alex. And the next question comes from Steven Frankel with Rosenblatt Securities. Your line is now open.

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Steven Frankel

Good morning. Alex stole my thunder, but maybe we'll dig into healthcare a little bit more. What's the size of the funnel there relative to the prospect funnel on the skilled trade side? Is there still a very good funnel there or are you finding that people are less interested in this area post-COVID? I know there's plenty of job openings, but what's the interest level like?

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Scott Shaw

Yeah, interest still remains strong in healthcare. It's definitely growing. It's up over last year. As I said, I'm very comfortable that our full year healthcare numbers will be meaningfully up. Again, our skilled trades and auto are gonna be up more because that is where we're having more replications and expansions take place. But overall demand is strong across the board. Not worried frankly about any demand indicators shifting negatively or maybe they'll shift more positively, but they're definitely robust, I'd say Steven across the board for us.

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Steven Frankel

I appreciate the update on the cash pay program on skilled trades and auto. Are there any prospects for replicating that kind of success on the healthcare side?

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Scott Shaw

Absolutely. And the healthcare side of the house is an area that we're putting increased focus on. We recently hired a new individual, a VP of healthcare, frankly to help us drive that business going forward. So I would anticipate certainly as we get into 2025 sharing more of what those new opportunities will be

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Eric Martin Newsy

for us. Great, thank you.

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Operator

And our next question comes from Eric Martin Newsy with Lake Street Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

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Eric Martin Newsy

Eric, your

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Operator

line is now open. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. And the next question comes from Raj Sharma with B Raleigh. Your line is now open.

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Yeah, thank you.

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Q3

Good morning and thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to understand the starch color a little bit better. So if I heard it correctly, the healthcare starts were down 6% and that's largely explainable from timing, is that right? In my follow on question is the X of Atlanta, the East Point Georgia campus, what was the starch growth rate and was Atlanta almost all transportation? Well,

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the Atlanta is definitely all transportation skilled trades. Was it again, automotive, electrical, HVAC and welding and the growth without it was about 5.5%. There's a slide in our investor up on the website that shows you that. So we had good solid

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Right and what is the enrollment you're expecting at the East Point campus? Well, we modeled out

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that. Well, I'll just tell you what we modeled the campus at getting to enrollment around 700, 750 students. At the end of this year, we originally thought there might be 300 students

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that. Right and that makes sense and the healthcare starts you expect for the year to be positive growth, any sort of target on that?

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Scott Shaw

I can't, to be honest with you, I haven't looked at it in that way. All I know is that there is positive growth. I know Brian, if you have any more information. Yeah,

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Brian Myers

we're flat for the six months and we're expecting the second half to be positive. And again, for our two big programs there, MA which was up for this quarter, the second quarter over 30%, as Scott described, LPN was down but that was all due to the number of slots we have because it fluctuates from quarter to quarter there. So hopefully that'll catch up in Q3. So we are anticipating to be positive I don't have the number there.

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Q3

Got it. Well, that's very helpful. And just my last question on Lincoln 10.0, I see that you have covered 65% who said, if I heard that correctly, 65% of the students would be under the Lincoln 10.0 and I understand that there are cost efficiencies to be seen, are there cost efficiencies to be seen and where would you see them in the metrics? You know, next year versus this year. That'd be great, some color on that.

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Scott Shaw

Yeah, you would see them in the educational line is because of the increased efficiency that we'll have with faculty. We're starting to see it now, but to your point, we'll definitely see more of it in 2025 as we see the benefits of blended learning coming to fruition does provide some better student to teacher ratios and better utilization of the classrooms which all adds to the efficiency. But it's basically in the instructional line that you'll see the savings.

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Q3

Got it. Thank you for taking my questions again. Congratulations and solid results. Thanks, Raj. Thanks, Raj.

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Operator

As a reminder to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone. The next question comes from Eric Martinuzzi with Lake Street Capital Markets. Your line is open.

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Eric Martinuzzi

Okay, we'll try this again. Can you hear me? We can hear you, Eric. Glad to hear you. Okay, I promise I was not on mute and not sure what happened, but let's dive in here. So the 2027 plan, is that based on the existing campus footprint that we have as well as that new location that's planned for 2026 or is there build out beyond the 2026 campus location?

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Brian Myers

No, it's still the same thing we talked about on the investor day. So it's the two relocating campuses and the one campus, the new Atlanta campus. So it's just those campuses. Anything additional will be additive to that and the new programs that we discussed.

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Eric Martinuzzi

And that, so Houston is-

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Brian Myers

Yeah, and includes, I'm sorry, Houston as well, I'm sorry. The Atlanta campus, Houston and the two relocating, but not the one that Scott described that we'll be announcing shortly. Yeah,

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Scott Shaw

so just to be clear, everything we've announced to date, except for the new one that we anticipate we'll be announcing in the next quarter, it drives us to those results.

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Eric Martinuzzi

Gotcha, and then a follow up on that, Houston, what specifically is the regulatory or the barrier to rule out there? Why do we have to kick the can on Houston?

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Scott Shaw

Building permits, everyone thinks of Houston. I mean, Texas is being very open and free with a lot of things, but for whatever reason, took us longer to get some building permits approved.

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Eric Martinuzzi

Okay, and you said, so new students by the end of 2025, is that Q4 of 25, Q3, or still TVC?

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Scott Shaw

Yes, at some point within the fourth quarter of 2025, we'll have our first starts at that campus.

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spk13

Okay, thanks for taking my question.

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Scott Shaw

No problem, glad you were able to connect with us.

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Operator

As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 1-1 on your telephone. Okay, I show no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back to Scott for closing remarks.

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Scott Shaw

Thanks, operator, and we just want to thank everyone for joining our call. As you can see, Lincoln has a lot of positive momentum, and we really see that continuing into next year, and I believe even the year after. There's so much that's happening that we serve and the need for what we do, we see increasing given the demand we hear from employers, and given the trends we are seeing in society, waking up to the fact that there are other opportunities for people to start their careers in a shorter, faster, more economical way, and that's certainly what we're all about at Lincoln Tech. We like that, as we say, we help students put their potential to work, and we look forward to doing that with more and more students. We look forward to updating you at our next earnings call, and we hope you all have a wonderful day, thank you.

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Operator

This does conclude today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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speaker
Q3

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speaker
Scott Shaw

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speaker
Q3

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speaker
Operator

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speaker
Eric Martinuzzi

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speaker
Brian Myers

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speaker
Scott Shaw

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speaker
Eric Martinuzzi

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speaker
Scott Shaw

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speaker
Eric Martinuzzi

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speaker
Scott Shaw

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speaker
spk13

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speaker
Scott Shaw

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speaker
Operator

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speaker
Scott Shaw

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Disclaimer

This conference call transcript was computer generated and almost certianly contains errors. This transcript is provided for information purposes only.EarningsCall, LLC makes no representation about the accuracy of the aforementioned transcript, and you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on the information provided by the transcript.

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