The Real Good Food Company, Inc.

Q2 2023 Earnings Conference Call

8/11/2023

spk01: Greetings, and welcome to the Real Good Food Company's second quarter 2023 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Shamari Benton, Vice President of Financial Planning and Analysis. Thank you. You may begin.
spk02: Good morning, and welcome to the Real Good Food Company's second quarter 2023 earnings conference call. On the call today are Brian Freeman, Executive Chairman, Jerry Law, Chief Executive Officer, and Ashae Jogdell, Chief Financial Officer. Our second quarter earnings release crossed the wire at approximately 8 a.m. Eastern Time today. If you have not had a chance to review the release, it's available in our investor portion of our website at www.realgoodfoods.com. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that certain statements on this call are forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws and are subject to considerable risk and uncertainties. These forward-looking statements are intended to qualify for the safe harbor from liability established by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All statements made on this call today, other than historical fact, are forward-looking statements and include statements regarding our projected financial results, including net sales, gross profit, gross margin, adjusted gross profit, adjusted gross margin, and adjusted EBITDA. as well as our ability to increase net sales from existing customers and acquire new customers, introduce new products, and compete successfully in our industry, implement our growth strategy, and effectively expand our manufacturing and production capacity. Forward-looking statements made on the call represent management's current expectations and are based on information available at the time such statements are made. Such statements involve a number of known and unknown uncertainties, many of which are outside the company's control and can cause future results, performance, or achievements to differ significantly from the results, performance, or achievements expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. Important factors and risks could cause or contribute to such differences are detailed in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Except as required by law, the company undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements herein, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. In addition, throughout this discussion, we refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, which refer to results before taking into account certain one-time or non-recurring charges that are not core to our ongoing operating results, and which we believe better reflect the performance of our business on an ongoing basis. Our non-GAAP financial measures include adjusted gross margin and adjusted EBITDA, our reference. A reconciliation of each non-GAAP financial measure to its most direct comparable GAAP financial measure is included in our second quarter earnings relief, which is available on our website under our investor tab. With that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to the Real Good Food Company's Executive Chairman, Brian Freeman.
spk11: Hey, thanks, Shamari. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today on our second quarter earnings call. I will briefly review our second quarter highlights and discuss the reasons we believe we're well positioned for long-term profitable growth. Jerry will cover operations, and Akshay will then review our financial results and outlook in more detail. After that, we'll open the call for questions. Starting with our financial highlights for the second quarter, net sales were 35.4 million, an increase of 15% year-over-year, and an increase of 89% on a two-year stack basis, both of which represent a significant acceleration sequentially. Additionally, we saw a sequential acceleration in sales and growth each month within the quarter. With over 30% shipment growth in June, And this momentum has carried into the third quarter and is expected to continue into the fourth quarter and beyond. The acceleration of sales growth this quarter was driven by the unmeasured channel, which was up 61% on a year-over-year basis and up 116% on a two-year stack basis, both of which represent a significant acceleration sequentially. Growth was driven primarily by improvements in velocity, which is highly incremental to the categories we participate in. Given the strong velocity performance that helps grow sales for our retail partners, we naturally secured additional distribution in the unmeasured channel for the remainder of 2023. Distribution improved significantly late in the quarter and is expected to double in the third quarter of 2023. We are particularly encouraged by the breadth of our offerings in the unmeasured channel. which spans seven categories, two temperature states, and three eating occasions. As we exited the quarter and began the third quarter, we had eight items of distribution in over 50% of the store base in this channel, which is more than double compared to a year ago. As a result, we expect unmeasured channel sales growth to accelerate further in the second half. This includes national distribution of breaded poultry, appetizers, and entrees, as well as further expansion of our handhelds, which include our flautas and burrito platforms in the refrigerated section. So to summarize the unmeasured channel and provide additional perspective, in 2021, we had two items that on a combined and annualized basis achieved 65% ACV. In 2022, we grew to three items with a combined and annualized ACV of 68%. We currently have eight items in distribution that participate in seven categories and two temperature states. For perspective, we've never had more than four items authorized simultaneously in our history. All of this is to say that our strategy to expand into new categories across two temperature states is working and creates a strong foundation for a durable, predictable growth business going forward. Now turning to the retail channel performance, Sales growth was 56% on a two-year stack basis, but was down year-over-year. The year-over-year decline is a function of the timing of shelf resets, which happened with only 12 days left in the quarter and the lapping of a record quarter last year where the channel saw 93% growth due to one-time promotional events. The good news is we're on shelf now, and shipment growth in this channel has already inflected driven by distribution growth from the late June shelf resets combined with higher velocities. As of second quarter end, our total distribution points were 171,000, which is an increase of roughly 23,000 total points of distribution versus 2022. In addition, we have roughly another 30,000 new distribution points confirmed for the second half of 2023, which represents an increase of 35% versus the year-ago average. And due to the new item reset schedules in the measure channel, this new distribution started to come online late in the second quarter and will build further in the back half of 2023. The products that are gaining distribution, such as our global multi-serve entrees and breaded poultry, have significantly higher velocities than our base, which we expect will drive significant overall brand velocity growth for the remainder of 2023. We continue to expect strong double-digit growth in the channel for the remainder of the year. The aforementioned new distribution gains, combined with strong base business velocity, gives us confidence that we will grow sales in 2023 to at least $200 million, representing growth of approximately 41%. We typically do not provide quarterly guidance, but I believe it is important to do so today on a one-time basis given the significant inflection and hockey stick growth trajectory of our business. We are already seeing this growth happening, and I want to ensure our shareholders are aware of our strong conviction of this positive development. For the third quarter of 2023, we expect sales to be in the range of 60 to 65 million, representing 60 to 73% growth. In fourth quarter 2023 sales of 70 to 77 million representing 96 to 116% growth. This revenue growth inflection in the second half of 2023 approximately doubles our plant utilization rates, reduces our SG&A costs as a percent of revenue and as such enables us to drive positive cash earnings. Jerry and Akshay will speak to this in more detail. but I wanted to touch on our margins this quarter once again and provide a high-level view of how we see the rest of the year shaping up. Gross margins were 13.6% this quarter, which is 598 BIP improvement year over year. What is particularly noteworthy about this performance is the fact that we achieved this while our plants were less than 40% utilized. Adjusted gross margins, which account for the capacity utilization impact, were 28.2%, representing a 619 BIP improvement year-over-year and the second-best quarterly adjusted margin in the company's history. The strong adjusted gross margin performance this quarter points to the underlying earnings power of this business. The year-over-year improvement in our margins is being driven by our productivity initiatives as well as an overall favorable commodity cost environment. On a sequential basis, a reported gross margin should improve significantly driven by a significant increase in plant utilization rates and lower labor costs. Adjusted EBITDA was a loss of 1.9 million, which was in line with our expectations and includes the impact of significantly higher than normal R&D costs in support of our strong second half growth agenda. Again, for the back half of this year, we see our plant utilization rates almost doubling. This leverages our overhead in SG&A, and it's how we expect to see positive cash earnings in the third and fourth quarters. Next, let's take a look at the current state of the health and wellness market and how our brand positioning is resonating with the broad consumer base. According to Spence, for the 52 weeks ending July 16th, the $204 billion health and wellness industry grew 7% year-over-year in line with the 7% two-year CAGR. Over the same period, the 66 billion total frozen food category grew 9%, generally in line with the 8% two-year CAGR. Several industry observers have called out the fact that category consumption trends have weakened in recent months versus industry cycles and price increases during a relatively tough economic backdrop for consumers. We did not take significant pricing actions like our competitors and as such are not dealing with volume declines related to elasticity. Our growth continues to be highly incremental to the categories we compete in, and we tend to source consumers from the broader health and wellness industry, which has not seen softening trends like the frozen food category. It's important to note that the frozen food category has historically performed well during recessions as it tends to benefit for consumers trading down from eating out to eating more at home. Also, private label penetration of frozen category is relatively low at about 9% to 10%. as compared to 20 to 22% on average across all food categories. And private label penetration health and wellness frozen is even lower than in the overall frozen food category. As such, trade down risk within the category to lower priced private label options is limited. Additionally, our distribution footprint is focused on retailers that deliver value to their consumers and we have low concentration and what I call luxury high-end retailers that typically lose foot traffic during economic downturns. Now, our brand promises three primary claims, low-carb with little to no sugar, high protein, and clean ingredients. Products with these attributes are going well above the growth in our overall total addressable market. All things considered, the categories we compete in remain highly relevant as evidenced by their large size and strong growth profiles. As for brand health, we track ourselves against four indicators, household penetration, repeat rates, social community growth and engagement, and velocity. Starting with household penetration, according to enumerated data as of July 2023, the Real Good Foods brand household penetration is approximately 8.3%, flat from 8.3% in March 2023. This means approximately one in every 12 households in the United States has purchased our products in the past 12 months. Our household penetration continues to rank second amongst all health and wellness frozen food brands behind only Amy's, a brand with over 500 million in retail sales. For perspective, according to a research report recently published by Jefferies, the entire plant-based foods category had a household penetration of only 5%, down from a peak of 9% a couple years ago. Our significant household penetration demonstrates how well our brand position resonates and how quickly we have connected with a broad consumer base. We view this as a leading indicator of future growth, and as our distribution footprint grows in the back half of this year, we expect to see our household penetration grow significantly. Now, turning to repeat rates, they continue to be in line with industry averages at 32% in the most recent trailing 52-week data as of July 2023. Given the new distribution of new users we are bringing into our franchise, this repeat rate is exceptionally strong. Regarding social community growth, the second quarter marked one of the strongest and most efficient quarters for impressions and follower growth in the history of the company. We generated over 12.2 million organic impressions and 77 million total brand impressions. Organic impressions are not paid-for impressions. and we're able to generate due to the size of our community. This provides massive long-term value in that we can connect with millions of people to support our initiatives. For example, when we launch new distribution, we're able to instantly tell millions of people we're now available in our local store through geotargeting. This creates velocity at scale and new item performance in a way our peer group cannot achieve without spending millions of dollars on advertising. We worked with thousands of micro and nano content creators within defined consumer verticals to mobilize and engage with people in a meaningful or entertaining way. We have the largest Instagram community of any frozen food brand in the U.S. with over 476,000 followers, an uptick of approximately 22,000 versus the end of the first quarter. We continue to believe that using micro and nano content creators to spark authentic peer-to-peer conversations is a better use of marketing dollars than traditional advertising. Based on our number of followers and subscribers, I can say it's working and it's efficient. Our retailer partners appreciate how we drive new consumers to the categories we participate in, allowing Real Good Foods to grow the frozen category with consumers new to frozen food rather than taking share from others. In fact, a recent study from SPIMS showed that only 3.5% of households who purchased our breaded poultry items were households that purchased bread and poultry from the nation's largest brand in the prior 52 weeks. This, along with strong velocities, is why we have permission to grow distribution. These strong brand health indicators underpin our confidence in achieving over $500 million in sales over the long term. I'd now like to turn the call over to our CEO, Jerry Law, to provide an update on Bolingbrook and our operations more broadly.
spk10: Thank you, Brian. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's call. Our Bolingbrook, Illinois facility is continuing to ramp up production, and we are on track to achieve significant utilization rate improvements in the second half of the year. I continue to be very proud of the team and how far we've come since opening the new facility. Holingbrook enables our entry into exciting new categories and gives us much-needed capacity to meet the growing demand for our new and existing products. I was pleased with our gross margin performance in the second quarter, which was in line with our expectations. Our 13.6% gross margin is particularly encouraging, given that our plants continue to be underutilized. Our sales guidance calls for capacity utilization rates to increase from approximately 40% currently to 70% to 80% in the second half of 2023. Higher utilization rates should drive significant fixed cost leverage in the plants, resulting in a significant increase in our gross margins for the second half of 2023. Adjusted gross margins, which assume full utilization, were 28.2%, and point to the underlying margin profile of the business when plants are fully utilized. We have been deliberate about building capacity ahead of demand. All the hard work and investments made to get the capacity up and running over the past 15 months have put us in a position where we are confident that we can service orders when the significant growth our sales team has locked in for the rest of the year hits. Not only are we in a good position to meet our demand needs, but we are also confident we can do so at targeted efficiencies. In other words, our growth should be highly incremental to our margin structure for the remainder of the year, especially in the second half of 2023 as plant utilization increases. While lower raw material costs contributed to a solid margin performance this quarter, margin gains also reflect optimization of our formulations. This was a tough quarter to judge plant efficiencies, given the sub 40% utilization levels, as well as the amount of new product activity, both of which have a negative impact on efficiencies. However, I continue to be encouraged by the potential improvement in efficiencies at Bolingbrook and the city of industry continues to perform well. Moreover, we expect our operating performance to improve significantly as the year progresses, driven by better efficiencies resulting in lower labor costs, improved plant utilization, and better overhead cost leverage. Before I turn it over to Akshay, I would like to discuss the biggest catalyst for the remainder of 2023. We continue to expect our labor costs to come down sequentially, as Bolingbrook, which has structurally lower costs compared to our City of Industry facility, becomes a larger portion of our production mix and achieves our targeted efficiencies. Every incremental pound coming out of Bolingbrook is accretive to our labor costs. In addition, overall labor costs are further aided by continued efficiency gains at our City of Industry facility. We are confident in our ability to bring labor costs in line with industry standards of about five to 10% of sales over time. To reiterate, we expect a major portion of this opportunity to flow through in the second half of this year as efficiencies are harvested in both plants and Bolingbrook becomes a bigger portion of our production mix. Additionally, Higher sales will drive a step change in plant utilization rates and allow us to leverage lower overhead costs. We expect this overhead leverage to drive approximately 10 points and further improvement in our margin profile in the second half of 2023 as compared to the first half. Lastly, our investments in Bolingbroke have enabled significant productivity savings. These include the self-manufacturing of our chicken tortillas, Chicken that is used in our product fillings and our proprietary breading blends, which on a combined basis are likely to drive approximately 200 to 400 basis points of margin improvement. As for direct materials inflation, the good news is the commodity costs remain favorable and point to a roughly 600 to 1,000 basis point tailwind for 2023. In summary, our operations infrastructure has more than enough capacity to meet the incremental demand we expect for the second half of 2023. The sequentially higher sales level that we are now guiding to in the third and fourth quarter, driven by distribution points already secured, mark an important inflection point for the business from a capacity utilization perspective, and will enable us to meet goals we laid out for 2023. We are pleased by our margin performance this quarter, which was in line with expectations and showed significant improvement year over year. We continue to expect 2023 adjusted EBITDA to be in the positive mid to high single-digit millions of dollars range and expect to generate positive cash earnings in the second half of 2023. We have strong visibility into the drivers of our continued margin turnaround and feel confident in achieving our outlook. It's an exciting time at Real Good Foods, and as we enter the second half of the fiscal year, we continue to provide focused support for the growing demand our sales group has locked in by investing in talent, capabilities, and the supply chain. I feel confident in our ability to effectively navigate the environment we are in to deliver results and increase value for our shareholders. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Akshay, our Chief Financial Officer, who will walk you through our second quarter financials.
spk06: Thank you, Jerry, and good morning, everyone. Turning to our financial results, net sales in the second quarter were $35.4 million, an increase of 15% compared to the second quarter of last year. Sales in the unmeasured channel increased by approximately 61% year over year in the second quarter, driven primarily by velocity growth. It is worth noting again that our velocity growth is highly incremental to the category, and the incrementality is higher than we had expected. As Brian mentioned, in the measured channel, our brand interaction with the leading brand in bread and poultry was only 3.5%. Same is true in the unmeasured channel where our growth has been almost 100% incremental to the incumbent brand. Given the strong velocity performance, we have secured incremental distribution in the unmeasured channel for the remainder of 2023. Distribution improved significantly late in the quarter and is expected to double sequentially in the third quarter of 2023. Growth in the unmeasured channel is tracking ahead of our expectations. and our expectations for the second half growth are materially higher than our previous forecast. In the retail channel, growth was 56% on a two-year stack basis, but was down year-over-year. The year-over-year decline is a function of the timing of shelf resets, which happened very late in the second quarter of 2023, and a lapping of record 93% growth last year. Last year's growth was in part driven by certain promotional events that did not repeat this year. Shipment growth in this channel has already inflected driven by distribution growth from the June shelf reset combined with higher brand velocities. The new products that we introduced recently have significantly higher velocities than our base products, which we expect will drive significant overall brand velocity growth for the remainder of 2023. We expect strong double-digit growth in this channel for the remainder of the year. We now have greater conviction in meeting our 2023 revenue target of at least $200 million in sales. The increase in our conviction is based on the following. One, better than expected unmeasured channel growth. Two, strong new item velocities and incremental distribution growth. And three, continued strong momentum on distribution expansion in the measured channel. To demonstrate our conviction in the implied hockey stick growth trajectory for the remainder of the year, we're deviating from our typical pattern on a one-off basis and providing some quarterly guidance. We expect third quarter 2023 sales to be in the range of 60 to 65 million. representing 60 to 73% growth, and fourth quarter 2023 sales of 70 to 77 million, representing 96 to 116% growth. This revenue growth approximately doubles our plant utilization rates, reduces our distribution and administrative costs as a percent of revenue, and as such, we expect to generate positive cash earnings. Our second quarter gross profit was $4.8 million, reflecting a gross margin of 13.6% of net sales as compared to a gross profit of $2.4 million or gross margin of 7.6% of net sales in the second quarter of last year. The increase in gross margin was primarily due to decreases in certain raw material costs and productivity and efficiency improvements at the Bolingbrook plant. Adjusted gross profit during the quarter was 10 million, reflecting an adjusted gross margin of 28.2% of net sales as compared to 6.8 million or 22% of net sales in the second quarter of last year. Productivity initiatives and lower commodity prices contributed to the year-over-year increase in margins. Although adjusted gross margins in the first half of 2023 have averaged higher than our guidance range for the full year, We're maintaining our adjusted gross margin guidance for 2023 of at least 24%. Several factors are contributing to this implied sequential moderation and adjusted gross margins, including negative product mix, seasonally higher costs for certain key inputs, and higher levels of above-the-line brand support like slotting fees to support growth. On a reported basis, gross margins are expected to increase substantially in the second half, driven primarily by lower labor and overhead costs. Looking ahead to 2023 and beyond, we have a long runway of future productivity savings that will drive incremental margin expansion. Total operating expenses were 15.5 million in the second quarter as compared to 12.2 million in the second quarter of last year. Adjusted operating expenses increased by approximately 4.1 million to 13.5 million in the second quarter as compared to 9.4 million in the second quarter of last year. The increase in operating expenses was driven primarily by the increase in research and development costs to support the strong new product pipeline in 2023. R&D costs tend to be lumpy on a quarterly basis depending on the level of new product activity as well as the timing and scale of commercialization. Adjusted EBITDA totaled a loss of 1.9 million in the second quarter as compared to a loss of 3.3 million in the second quarter of last year. This was generally in line with our expectations. Cash burn in the second quarter improved sequentially but was still relatively high owing to the plants being significantly underutilized for most of the quarter. Utilization rates improved towards the end of the quarter, and we were cash flow breakeven during that period. We also continued to invest in inventory to support the significant acceleration in growth expected in 3Q 2023 and beyond. We have strong visibility in the significant inflection in our sales growth starting in the third quarter, which should result in significant fixed cost leverage across our plant network and in GNA, propelling us to positive cash earnings. Following the end of the second quarter, we announced an amendment to our credit facility. We are pleased with this agreement, which further enhanced our liquidity position and will provide us with access to non-dilutive capital to fund our growth and transition to positive cash generation. As such, we have ample liquidity to fund our current needs and execute the plan we have laid out. Now turning to our outlook for 2023. In 2023, we're reiterating our expectations for net sales of at least 200 million, adjusted gross margins of at least 24%, adjusted EBITDA in the mid to high single-digit range, As for cash flow, we expect to transition to positive cash earnings in the second half of 2023. Long-term, we continue to expect net sales of approximately $500 million, adjusted gross margins of 35%, and adjusted EBITDA margins of 15%. This concludes our prepared remarks. I would now like to hand the call over to the operator to begin our question and answer session. Operator?
spk01: Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your lines in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of John Anderson with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.
spk03: Good morning. Thanks for the question. I wanted to ask first about the sales guidance. You kind of reiterated the outlook for the full year. At a high level, is the right way to think about that, that you're seeing better performance or expectations in the second half in the non-measured channel? But this is offset a little bit by what sounds like maybe later distribution or late quarter shelf resets in the measured channels. So is there a bit of a tradeoff there between non-measured and measured this year that's kind of leading you to kind of reiterate the full year sales outlook?
spk11: Hi. Good morning, John. Yeah, I think that's directionally accurate. And you can kind of see that shape when you look at what we're guiding towards for Q3 and Q4. So unmeasured is really making up for some of the lateness in terms of those additional 30,000 TPDs we see coming in in the back half. And look, we're still really impressed by the velocities we're seeing with our items today.
spk03: Yeah, that was kind of my next question. So where you have seen the new products, you know, get to shelf in the measured channels. Can you talk about that? Like where you've seen which products, which customers represent the, I think the 20, 25,000 incremental TDPs you've already seen and what's still to come, the incremental 30 in the back half of the year. And then also what, Is it too early, or are you able to say anything about the velocities you are seeing on some of the newer items like breaded poultry, I think, at a large mass customer? Sure.
spk11: The quality of the TPDs is really far better than our base, and it's being driven by our global multi-serve entrees and obviously our breaded poultry. That's a long-winded way of saying we see anywhere from 2 to 5x our base products in terms of velocity. And so the majority of our new points of distribution are those two platforms in the measure channel. And that's why you see the growth in our guidance to outpace on a percentage basis the growth of our points of distribution. You asked about specific velocity reads. It's not too early to provide some guidance on that. And what we're seeing is the velocity of those two platforms are really coming in where we expected. And what I would say is that is really impressing us is in some customers, we've gone from one item in the bread and poultry category to three. And they're really not cannibalizing each other. The incremental two additional items in that door are actually complementing the volume we're getting out of that door, which is impressive. And it just is a reflection of the size of the category and the velocity of that door or of that category that we're able to do that.
spk03: Great. One more. You mentioned, I guess, this quarter and I think last, that timing of promotions has had an impact on sales, the sales comparison, I should say, promotion last year that didn't repeat this year. Can you talk about the cadence of any events you're planning this year to activate consumers now that this distribution is getting into place? I guess what I'm getting at is you've kind of been –
spk11: forced to absorb a bit of a headwind with respect to promo timing in the first half is that reverse in the second half sure so to recap i mean we we're lapping 93 percent growth right in the measure channel but when when you look at when i think about just our brand health our baseline velocity was up eight percent and so that's really healthy um you know we'll once we get the uh the points of distribution on shelf, then, of course, we'll invest against them and make sure that folks, you know, see us on shelf. We'll do that through some trade. But our plan is not to really increase our trade spend from a historic level.
spk03: And how about on the club side, the non-measured, anything there with respect to kind of year-over-year comparison promotions?
spk11: You know, what I will say is we'll have national distribution with our appetizer platform, our breaded poultry platform, and our entree platform in the frozen section, the back half. And the volume, we will be promoting. However, the volume is so significant from on a percent revenue basis, we don't really see our gross to net changing from historic levels.
spk09: Great, thanks so much. Thanks, John.
spk01: Our next question comes from the line of J.P. Wallum with Ross MKM. Please proceed with your question.
spk05: Great. Good morning, and thanks for taking the questions. Maybe if we could just start, could you just refresh my memory on kind of some of the movement to the refrigerated state? And I just wanted to make sure... Has that been rolled out and on shelves already for some time? And if so, could you just kind of give us a rundown on how that's looking? And if not, then for another day.
spk09: Sure, JP.
spk11: We launched our handheld platform in the refrigerated section in the unmeasured channel a couple quarters ago. And we can... the success and the velocity of the item has exceeded my expectations. And so that's what's really driving additional distribution growth. You know, today, if I were to guess, our handheld platform and unmeasured channel and one customer's probably, and this is a guess, probably in the 60 or 70% range already. And so that's been a great tailwind for the company. And now that we've proven it out, you'll start to see us show up in the measure channel in the back half of this year in the refrigerated section. And we think that that could be a growth driver in 2024 and beyond.
spk05: Got it. Thank you. And then I forget exactly what the quote was. I think you touched and prepared remarks on kind of some weakness in the either one or all of the frozen category. And you alluded to something along price that had been taken by some of your competitors, and that may be kind of a tailwind for you. And I'm just curious, especially with your high velocity categories, could you just remind us kind of where your price stacks up versus competitors and perhaps what that means as you think about price going forward?
spk11: Sure. So, from a category dynamic perspective, frozen has declined. The growth has declined from approximately 7% down to 1%. And you see this in the headlines. You know, you see unit sales decline and, you know, and we think that's a lot due to the significant due to significant price increases that they took, and we're talking about price increases stacked up at close to 20% in the category. We're not seeing that with our products, and that's because, and here's the key point, JP, the health and wellness industry continues to grow at 7%. In fact, in the latest four weeks, it's up 7%, and that's where we source our consumers from. So While others, sort of the commoditized frozen food business, you see unit sales declines and deceleration and growth down to only 1%. We're not seeing that in our platform because we're a health and wellness brand. And with regard to the pricing strategy, you know, we aim to be somewhere in that 10% to 15% premium to conventional products. And we're able to do that because of the investments we've made in our plants and what we've done to scale the business and provide a health and wellness frozen food item without overly high conversion rates.
spk05: Great. That makes sense. And one last quick one, if I could. Just on household penetration, I think there was a comment that, you know, you might expect to see it move higher in the back half of the year and correct me if I misheard that, but just, just curious as you kind of look where you're at now and where you'd like to be, you know, what really is the big item you need to drive that higher or, or big few items that you think will really drive that sort of step function change in, in household penetration. Thank you.
spk11: Sure. It's, It's distribution, you know, we're calling for, um, you know, at least 35, 40% growth in the measure channel. So that will necessarily that that's just in the, uh, you know, the third quarter. And so that necessarily means we will grow our household penetration. Um, and so we're looking forward to pulling that data this time, uh, you know, next quarter. So really JP it's distribution. We know that the products that we have are performing well from velocity basis on a store-by-store level. We just are excited to see the distribution finally get on shelf, and that will drive household penetration.
spk08: Makes sense. I really appreciate the time, guys.
spk01: Our next question comes from the line of Bill Chappell with Truist. Please proceed with your question.
spk12: Thanks. Good morning. Morning. Just wanted to start, I appreciate the top line kind of cadence for 3-2 and 4-Q, but just want to understand how much, I guess, variability could happen. It seems like there's a fair amount that's driven by distribution gains and didn't know if you're expecting the distribution gates to happen at the start of this quarter or if they could fall between September and October and so there could be any change. Just kind of how confident you are on that cadence would be great.
spk11: Yeah, Bill, what I'll say at a high level is the fact that we did kind of a one-time quarterly guidance thing I think reflects our strong conviction of the cadence And, you know, look, we're at a point in the year where we think we have really good visibility for the remainder of the year. But with that, I'd like to throw it over to Akshay and get his comments on your question as well.
spk07: Hey, Bill. Good morning. So, good question. You know, I know you were asking this in the context of, you know, the noise that happened last year, late last year. So, you know, we've been very – can you guys hear me? Yeah, so we've been very deliberate about the guidance, right? We would not be providing, going out on a limb and providing this guidance if we didn't have the confidence, especially in light of what happened late last year, right? So we feel very confident about the numbers and because a lot of it is distribution-based and that distribution is already secured, there's a limited downside risk to that. And on the velocities, it's important to note that most of these items have been in distribution now for a while. So we're not like truly guessing on any velocities either. So, you know, there can always be some changes, but order of magnitude, you know, we're doubling our quarterly run rate on revenue as we thought that was really important to call out and you know, basically validate. So that's why we've done this one-off guidance change is so that you guys have confidence that we're going to hit these numbers.
spk09: Okay. No, that helps.
spk12: And then just kind of more of a bigger picture question, you know, you cite the the household penetration numbers. And, and, and I understand numerator is not a perfect vehicle, but how do I, how am I supposed to look at 8.4% household penetration, but only kind of a $200 million revenue run rate, because it would seem like in the greater frozen and fresh categories, if you've got that kind of household penetration or that kind of market share, you know, we're talking in the billions. So I just, How you look at that, is that the opportunity? And how focused should we be on it? I mean, if you go to 15% household penetration, but you're only at a $300 million run rate, does that imply that the opportunity is not as good? I'm just trying to figure out what makes sense as I look at that number. Thanks.
spk11: Yeah, for sure. I mean, we do look at it as a leading indicator. And it just, what it's telling us is, our brand position is resonating with 1 in 12 U.S. households. But to your point, with that kind of household penetration, we should be a much larger business. And I think the reason for that, Bill, is we're still really young. This is just the beginning. And now you see us literally, you know, what we're saying is we're going to double this business going into the back half. And what we need to do to really drive that trend of revenue is getting more items, um, in the same stores. So where we've been in the past, because we're such a young company is we don't have enough items in the store. I'll remind you, we have on average, we had about nine items per store versus, you know, Amy's, which has 40 to 50. And so we were with that, with, with that low number of items in store, We're not able to drive the amount of revenue that that household penetration would imply. So, in summary, what it's telling you is our brand position is resonating. Our job is to get more items, more day parts, more usage occasions to those same users that want our brand. And that's what we're in the middle of doing right now.
spk07: Hey, just to add to that.
spk08: Sure. Just to add. Go ahead. Good. Go ahead, Bill.
spk07: Yeah, so just the numbers around that, you know this better than I do, Bill, but the health and wellness brands, the 15 or so that we compare ourselves to, an average household spends $60 annually on that brand, right? An average household does. So if you just apply that math, you can get to those larger numbers on the $10 million. What's interesting is we're adding new consumers at a very high rate. So as Brian mentioned, it's really a leading indicator. So we doubled our household penetration over the last 12 months. In the first half, if you just take our revenue numbers, the household was spending $10 an household annually on us. And now the second half is pointing to $30. So we've got this distribution gain. And so that's how the numbers are going to play out. the first step is to get those households to try our products, to like them, and then, you know, give them opportunities to buy more and more. So we think it's the most important brand health indicator. And personally, I think this metric is the most positive data point for our brand period.
spk08: No, that's great. Thanks so much for the color.
spk01: Our next question comes from the line of Rob Dickerson with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.
spk04: Great. Thanks so much. Good morning. So I guess just in terms of top line, you know, we're talking about this acceleration in the back half. I get it. At the same time, it sounds like distribution should be kind of, you know, I guess gradually or increasingly ramping as you get through year end. um clearly you know not looking for 24 revenue guide number but i am you know kind of curious you know as you talk about this kind of you know 2x and what's implied and kind of revenues in the back half of this year relative to the back half of 22 um it doesn't sound like there's anything you know clearly that would prevent you from you know taking that trajectory through at least the first half of 24, right? I'm sure there's some seasonal dynamics, maybe there's some promotional plans that could change, but kind of just very broadly speaking, you know, everything else being equal year over year, if you can kind of 2X it in the back half of 23, you should probably seem like you should 2X it as well in the first half of 24. Does that logic make sense?
spk11: Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think the run rate is something that is would sort of be the baseline for the next year. But what's more important is that those run rates, you know, this is a positive cash flow business that is profitable. And that's really what the team is focused on. And with that kind of volume and plant utilization, Rob, that's really what is the inflection point for the company and why we felt it was important to provide on a one-time basis some quarterly guidance for you. Okay. Okay, cool.
spk04: And then I just wanted to clarify kind of back half gross margin language. Sincere apologies for not following everything. I heard Jerry kind of make one comment, and then there were some comments made by Akshay as well. Clearly, just to your point, right, with volume coming through velocities, plant utilization, overhead, SG&A leverage, I mean, if you could just kind of maybe remind me kind of like where should we be thinking gross margin, you know, could be in some range as we get through the back half? you still hold the 24% or greater gross margin guidance, but everything I'm hearing, it's like clearly better than 24%. So I'm just trying to get kind of like, you know, that's worth it.
spk11: You know what, I'm going to throw that over to Akshay.
spk07: Thanks. Yeah, I take full credit for causing the confusion. So let me try to unwind that. Listen, I think the consensus numbers are calling for about 25% adjusted gross margins. You know, that is a sequential decline or deceleration from, decline from where we ended first half. And there's good reason for that, right? So number one, we've made some investments above the line to drive growth, right? Slotting is a great example. And that's back-actuated. Number two, certain commodities like cheese and bacon are seasonally much higher in the second half than they are in the first half. Number three, some of the items that are coming on shelf in a big way in the back half are newer items. And to start off with, they have lower gross margins than the more established items. So, you know, those are reasons for why the margins would be sequentially lower on an adjusted basis. Okay. And there's, you know, we are also being appropriately conservative because we buy a lot of stuff on spot. Many things can happen. But I think where the consensus numbers are feels right to me. And the more important thing that we'd be pointing out is reported margins are going to inflect significantly. You're going to see reported margins converge with adjusted margins because our plants are going to be utilized. We make one adjustment just to show you and investors what the underlying earnings power of this business is. When we're 80% utilized, that adjustment is a nothing ball or close to it. We're going to see solid you know, in the 20 sort of reported margins, and that's going to allow us to generate cash. So did I confuse you more, or did this help?
spk04: No, it helped, but we have a follow-up, so I can clarify later again. And I guess just lastly, maybe, Brian, you want to take this one. You know, there's a slide in there, I guess, around the study you did for Buddy Chicken, you know, you have the two circles of the overlap. Seems like there's kind of limited overlap so far with, you know, another huge, massive brand, while at the same time, customer, you know, acceptance has been positive, right, incremental with the category. Do you believe kind of longer term, especially as you get this new distribution in mass, as you get through the back half of the year, that maybe there actually could be more conversion, right? I mean, it's clearly a positive for the category if you're incremental from a retailer perspective, but it also would be, like, really positive for you if you could get incrementality plus, you know, more overlap such that you could actually convert some of those consumers to your brand. And that's it. Thanks.
spk11: You know, I follow your line of reasoning there, Rob, and what you're saying makes sense, but what I would say to that is This number is kind of shocking to me that only 3.5% of those who bought our breaded poultry, those households bought the nation's largest brand in the prior 52 weeks. So, you know, does it go from three and a half percent overlap to seven or eight? Maybe, but it still is a huge win for our retailer partners. It also shows and demonstrates that we're sourcing users from the health and wellness category that weren't participating in the category before and that is growing faster than frozen. So it's really a shocking number to me and it's incredibly positive and it gives us permission to grow our distribution with retailers and it also kind of makes us sort of in the safe harbor scenario within frozen food. It's one of the most positive things that I could think of when I think about long-term growth and maintaining and growing distribution in the years to come.
spk09: Yeah, perfect. Thank you. Appreciate it.
spk01: Thank you. We have no further questions at this time. Mr. Freeman, I would now like to turn the floor back over to you for closing comments.
spk11: Well, thank you for joining us on our second quarter call, and we look forward to doing this again in 80 to 90 more days. Thank you.
spk01: Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation, and have a wonderful day.
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