8/10/2026

speaker
Kahe Alani
Conference Operator

Good day, everyone. My name is Kahe Alani, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome you to the Q2 2026 Rapid 7 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, and if you have joined via the webinar, please use the raise hand icon which can be found at the bottom of your webinar application. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Matt Wells, Vice President of Investor Relations.

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Matt Wells
Vice President of Investor Relations

Thank you, Operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Today, we will be discussing Rapid7's second quarter fiscal 2026 financial results. We've distributed our earnings press release over the wire, and it can be accessed on our investor relations website. With me on the call are Corey Thomas, Executive Chairman, Wael Mohamed, CEO, and Rafe Brown, CFO. As a reminder, all participants are in a listen-only mode, and a question-and-answer session will follow our opening remarks. Before I hand the call over to Corey, I want to remind everyone that certain statements made during this conference call may be considered forward-looking statements under federal securities laws. These statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and include, among other things, our outlook for the third quarter and full year 2026, our expectations regarding fiscal periods beyond 2026, Our transformation and restructuring initiatives, our strategy priorities and capital allocation, anticipated operational improvements, investments in our core platform and AI capabilities, and our expected growth drivers and financial performance. These forward-looking statements are based on our current expectations and beliefs and information currently available to us. While we believe any forward-looking statements we make are reasonable, actual results could differ materially due to a number of risks and uncertainties, including those contained in our filings with the SEC. Reported results should not be considered indicative of future performance. We do not undertake and expressly disclaim any obligation to update or alter our forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, except to the extent required by applicable law. Further information on these forward-looking statements and risk factors are included in the filings we make with the SEC, including the section titled Cautionary Language Concerning Forward-Looking Statements in our earnings press release. Additionally, over the course of this call, we'll reference non-GAAP measures to describe our performance. Please review our earnings press release and filings with SEC for our rationale behind the use of non-GAAP measures and for a full reconciliation of these GAAP to non-GAAP metrics. These documents, in addition to a replay of this call, will be available on the Rapid7 Investor Relations website. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Corey.

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Corey Thomas
Executive Chairman

Welcome to Rapid7's Q2 2026 earnings call. I join you today in a new role, but with the same passion and purpose, to ensure that organizations of all sizes can get the best results from their security operations. I have worked with the board, and especially with Wael, over the last year to revitalize our team, improve our execution, and fully leverage the opportunity that AI is providing. As part of that work, it was clear that we have significant opportunities, but only if we tighten our focus on our core offerings, sharpen our alignment and execution around those offerings, and deliver a more efficient model. The board and I recruited Wael, whom I have known and respected for many years, to do exactly that, deliver on Rapid7's full potential in the midst of one of the most exciting moments in technology. In many ways, Wael is accelerating a plan he helped develop. In other areas, he's providing sharper focus and leadership, as you will hear in his upcoming comments. Before I hand it over to Wael, I want to take a moment to acknowledge the incredible work of our colleagues at Rapid7, whose passion and care for our customers and their deep and energetic embrace of innovation continue to inspire me. With that, I turn the call over to Wael. Wael?

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Wael Mohamed
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you Corey and good afternoon. Since this is my first earnings call as CEO of Rapid7, I want to use my time a little differently. Rafe will take you through the quarter, the actions we announced, and our guidance. I want to focus on our strategy, the operating discipline behind it, and how I ask you to measure our progress. I have known Rapid7 for years. Long before I joined the board, I saw this company at its best, moving fast, earning customer trust, and winning in the heart of the market. Joining the board gave me a much closer view of the company, its people, and its potential. The closer I got, the more I liked what I found. Rapid7 is a good company ready to be great. It is not broken. It has reached a ceiling. The issue is not our assets. It is how we focus our resources and energy. Breaking through requires clear choices, strong execution, and an operating system that can repeat success at scale. That is the work I signed up for. Transformation is not about changing everything. It is about having the discipline to change the few things that matter most, and doing so consistently over time. Over the past year, we put the leadership team in place for this next chapter. We added a proven chief financial officer to strengthen operating discipline, a chief commercial officer to help us scale and win with customers, and the chief product and technology officer to build an AI-first platform. We now have our leadership team, operating model, and capital allocation aligned behind One Direction. Since stepping into this role, I have spent my time listening to customers, our people, partners, and many of you. Three things are clear. First, focus matters. We do not need to win everywhere. We need to be exceptional where we can win. Our clearest right to win is in the heart of the enterprise market, customers that need enterprise-grade security, but also need fewer tools, less complexity, and faster outcomes. Our leadership in the mid-market is proof of our strength. It is not a limit on our technology or our market. We will continue to compete for larger enterprises where our platform is the right fit. These customers want fewer, better partners, not more tools. That is where Rapid7 has earned the right to win. Second, outcomes matter more than products. For years, cybersecurity answered complexity with more complexity. More tools, more alerts, more consoles, more people. Customers do not need another dashboard. They need less risk, less complexity, and faster action. Our opportunity is to connect exposure management with detection and response, to move from finding problems to resolving them. For many customers, that outcome will be delivered as a service. Skilled security people are hard to find. They need a trusted partner that can bring the platform, the expertise, and the work together. Third, the way security work gets done is changing. AI should not become another label. It should change the work. Automation helps us move faster today. Agents let us do more across more data, more steps, and at much greater scale. Attackers are moving at machine speed. Attackers only need to find the seam between an exposure and the fix, an alert and the work needed to investigate it, or a decision and an action. Defenders need the same reach and speed with people remaining in control. People decide. Agents do. In this model, agents are not just features inside a product. They become part of the service layer, extending the reach of our security experts and helping us deliver outcomes faster and at scale. We acquired Kenzo because AI needs a foundation, not another feature. That foundation connects data, agents, and human decisions across the tools customers already use while keeping customers in control of their data. We want AI to fit into our customers' environments, not force them into ours. Building that future requires focus now. The changes we announced affect colleagues who have contributed to Rapid7. I want to thank them for what they have given to this company and to our customers. These actions are a focused reset. We are not shrinking our way to the future. We are reshaping the company so we can invest more behind the parts of the business that will define it. We are simplifying the company, aligning our cost structure with the core, and creating room to invest. We are concentrating our growth investment behind detection and response, exposure management, and the AI Foundation that connects them. We will continue to support customers using our other products. This is not simply a cost action. We will reinvest a meaningful portion of the savings in our core platform, the people building it, and the AI foundation behind the next generation of our products. 70 days is not enough to complete a transformation. It is enough to set direction and show how we will operate with speed, clarity, and accountability. Operating discipline creates choices. As Rafe will explain, the actions we announced put us on a path to exit the year at approximately 20% non-GAAP operating margin. That is not the destination. It is evidence that we are building a healthier company, one with more capacity to invest, innovate, and generate durable returns over time. In the second quarter, we came in slightly above the guidance we provided. Detection and response continued to perform well. At the same time, total ARR declined. Exposure management is not yet where it needs to be, and other parts of the portfolio continue to pressure our results. The current direction of ARR is not good enough. This is a multi-quarter transformation. We are changing the path of the company toward durable growth, not managing for one quarter. As we sharpen our focus, some parts of the business may face pressure before the benefits become visible. At times, we may need to simplify before we can accelerate. Let me leave you with the framework I ask you to use when measuring Rapid 7 over the coming quarters. First, look at the cash generated. Cash is not the finish line. Durable growth is, but cash tells you whether the operating model is becoming healthier and whether we have the capacity to keep investing. Second, Measure this transformation over several quarters, not one. Look for stronger execution in the core, better outcomes for customers, and meaningful improvement in exposure management. Third, watch how we reinvest. We are putting resources behind the platform, the people, and the AI foundation required to return Rapid7 to durable growth. We have hard work ahead, but we also have what matters most, strong customer trust, deep security expertise, a clear place to win, and a team that cares deeply about our mission. I have believed in Rapid7 for years. The more time I have spent with its people, its customers, and its technology, the stronger that belief has become. We know this transformation will take time. We will not ask you to judge us by promises. Judge us by execution. Judge us by whether, quarter after quarter, this company becomes more focused, more disciplined, and more capable of delivering durable growth. That is how we intend to earn your confidence. Rafe, over to you.

speaker
Rafe Brown
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Wael, and good afternoon, everyone. As a quick reminder, unless otherwise noted, all numbers except revenue and balance sheet items mentioned during my remarks today are non-GAAP. Please refer to our earnings release and SEC filings for additional details regarding the presentation of our results and guidance metrics. In the second quarter of 2026, I'm pleased to report that we exceeded expectation across all guided metrics. We ended the second quarter with total ARR of $824 million. We reported non-gapped operating income of $28.9 million. Free cash flow came in strong at $31.9 million with collections healthily exceeding our internal expectations. As of the end of the quarter, we had total cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments of $702.6 million. I want to begin by taking a closer look at our ARR as of the end of the quarter. As a quick reminder, our long-term strategy is focused on our core platform solutions, comprised of our detection and response business, which includes MDR, and our exposure management business. Our core platform solutions represent over 80% of overall ARR and grew approximately 1% on a year-over-year basis, led by our detection response business, which at approximately 55% of total ARR, grew approximately 5% on a year-over-year basis. While our overall exposure management business offsets some of the growth of our DNR business within the exposure management segment of our core offerings, we continue to see healthy adoption of our exposure command solution driven by both new customers and customers upgrading from our older vulnerability management solutions. In contrast, our non-core products, which as a reminder are less than 20% of total ARR, declined in the quarter, driving the sequential decline we saw in total ARR as we focus our resources toward growing our core products. As we plan for the remainder of 2026 and beyond, we see opportunities to optimize margins for these standalone non-core solutions, as well as opportunities to migrate customers to core platform offerings. As Wael mentioned, our organization is undergoing a significant transformation. Our new Chief Product and Technology Officer, Dan Deklich, just two months into his role, is making changes and investments across the product and engineering organization. We expect these investments to strengthen our core platform solutions, accelerate innovation, and deliver meaningful product capabilities throughout 2027. We expect however that these efforts will take time to translate into ARR growth. Returning now to our financial statements. Total revenue of $210.9 million declined approximately 1.5% year-over-year, reflecting the declines in non-core product ARR we saw earlier this year. We finished the quarter with over 11,500 customers and an average ARR per customer of approximately $70,000. Turning to second quarter profitability, total non-gap gross margins of 71.7% were down approximately 215 basis points year over year, consistent with our expectations, driven by year over year increases in staffing of our global security operations centers and increased cloud usage for product improvements. We reported non-GAAP operating income of $28.9 million, or a margin of 13.7%, favorable to our guidance. This upside to profitability drove non-GAAP earnings per share of 44 cents per diluted share. Free cash flow totaled $31.9 million in the second quarter, driven by strong collections. And from a balance sheet perspective, we ended the second quarter with $702.6 million in cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments. Combined with our continued free cash flow generation and a $200 million undrawn credit facility, we are well positioned to repay our $600 million convertible notes due in March of 2027. Turning to the restructuring announced earlier today. This restructuring marks a strategic shift in our business operations to drive efficiency and focus across the organization, aligning resources and investments to our core platform solutions. We are also creating capacity to increase our investments in cutting-edge, AI-driven solutions that will improve customer experience and increase competitiveness in the marketplace. In terms of approach, we first eliminated non-hit count spin wherever possible. Unfortunately, approximately 12% of our workforce has been notified that their roles are impacted by the restructuring. From a financial perspective, as a result of the efficiency gains already underway, as well as the impact of the restructuring announced today, we expect to deliver 20% non-GAAP operating margins in Q4 of 2026, compared to 13.7% in the second quarter, fulfilling our commitment to improve our cost run rate as we exit 2026. We expect to incur restructuring charges of approximately $10-11 million, the majority of which will be paid throughout the third and fourth quarters of 2026. These restructuring charges will be excluded from our non-GAAP P&L results. The cash expenditures will, however, be reflected in our operating and free cash flow results. As such, for the remainder of the year, the cash benefit of reduced headcount will largely be offset by the associated severance-related costs as well as targeted reinvestments into our product and engineering organization. Therefore, while weighted toward the fourth quarter, we are maintaining our expectation of approximately $130 million in free cash flow for the full year 2026. We believe this restriction will allow us to improve free cash flow in 2027 over our 2026 guide, despite a lower ARR base as we enter 2027, investments we are making to modernize our products and SDLC process, and the reduction of our interest income that will occur once we use our invested cash to repay our March 2027 convertible bonds. This brings us to third quarter 2026 guidance. We expect to end the third quarter with ARR of approximately $812 million. And on a sequential basis, we expect ending ARR for our combined core platform solutions of DNR and exposure management will be approximately flat quarter on quarter, with the expected sequential ARR decline coming from our non-core offerings. For the third quarter, we expect total revenue in the range of $208 to $210 million, or down approximately 4% at the midpoint on a year-over-year basis. Non-GAAP operating income is expected to be in the range of $34 to $36 million, or a margin of 16.7% at the midpoint. Non-GAAP earnings per diluted share are expected to be in the range of $0.44 to $0.47 on approximately 80 million fully diluted shares. Updating our full year fiscal 2026 guidance, we expect total revenue in the range of $837 to $841 million, a year-on-year decline of approximately 2% at the midpoint. We are raising non-GAAP operating income guidance for 2026 to a range of $129 million to $133 million, or a full year non-GAAP operating margin of 15.6% at the midpoint. As I mentioned earlier, this implies a 20% non-GAAP operating margin in the fourth quarter. Non-GAAP earnings per share are expected to be in the range of $1.78 to $1.83 per share on approximately 79 million fully diluted shares. We expect free cash flow of approximately $130 million for the full year, in line with prior year performance, and a free cash flow margin of approximately 15.5%. In conclusion, our solid execution in the second quarter, combined with our focus and prioritization efforts to improve our core product offerings, as well as our commitment to manage costs and expand operating margins, positions Rapid7 well for the transformation ahead. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to the operator for Q&A.

speaker
Kahe Alani
Conference Operator

We'll now move to our question and answer session. If you're joined by the webinar, please use the raise hand icon, which can be found at the bottom of your webinar application. When you're called on, please unmute your line and ask your question. We kindly ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow up. Our first question comes from Rob Owens with Piper Sandler. Please unmute to ask your question.

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Rob Owens
Analyst at Piper Sandler

Great. Good afternoon and thank you guys for taking my question. As you look across the product set, and in particular your exposure management platform, and I know you said that things will get better from here and you're looking at adding to the portfolio or adding to the capability. When you focus on that, is this a function of coverage or is it lacking functionality that your customers are looking for? trying to understand directionally where you hope to take this technology. I'll just ask the follow-up right away. In terms of customers that haven't moved to your more comprehensive capability, especially given the threat environment that we're in right now, what is your sense as to what customers are doing here? Thanks.

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Wael Mohamed
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Rob. Very good question. First of all, it's nice to actually be here and I look forward to work with all of you. It's been a little bit over two months. When I was on the board, as you know, I actually started a year ago, over a year ago, with Corey on the board and I looked at the overall business. It was very clear that there was part Core and non-core. And as I actually got on the seat, it was very clear to me that most of the decline happened in the non-core. Nonetheless, there's a lot of work we needed to do on the core side. So the restructure that actually Rafe talked about was to shift some of our focus to the core and making sure that we have our weight on it because we have really a good position. We have a lot of customers that use us. We have the right to win. and most importantly, you are invited every single day. I sat on a lot of customer calls in the last two months and I can see that we are actually in a better position. But to answer your question on the exposure management, there is definitely some work to do on focus. We were spread very thin, trying to be able to address all our portfolio. And now we are basically shifting our focus on the core side and making sure that we are actually also making some investments so we can get our fair share in that market. We are invited, which is good. We're shortlisted because we are one of the leaders. Nonetheless, we can increase our win rate by having more focus and obviously having the right investment. And I'm very excited about the addition of Dan, since Dan is actually working very hard to make sure that not only new features, but the AI-first methodologies implemented in all our product lines. The second question was the migration.

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Rob Owens
Analyst at Piper Sandler

What are customers doing in this environment? Yeah.

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Wael Mohamed
Chief Executive Officer

When I talk to customers, they actually, they talk about how can you not only find things, but actually fix it. And I'm very excited that we play in these two subcategories, the exposure management, as well as the detection and response. and I do believe the AI first basically structure will allow us to be able to provide that for customers. But customers actually buying every single day. They are not waiting and wait and see. That's what I thought when I came in. It would be wait and see. They're waiting for the AI. They're actually, they just want to make sure that the right vendors are moving in the right direction and they're looking for Solution that not only helped them to identify what's going on, but also fix it and take them through that journey.

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Rob Owens
Analyst at Piper Sandler

Great. Wael, good to connect again, and thank you for taking my questions. Thank you, Rob.

speaker
Kahe Alani
Conference Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Jonathan Ho with William Blair. Please unmute to ask your questions.

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Jonathan Ho
Analyst at William Blair

Hi. I just wanted to understand, first of all, Wael, I really appreciate the detail that you're providing. Can you help us understand the opportunities to reaccelerate growth? Where do you specifically see these ability to focus paying off? And it's always been challenging to show operating leverage while trying to reaccelerate growth at the same time. Can you help us understand the balance between these two?

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Wael Mohamed
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Jonathan. And it's a very good question. And I always ask myself when I basically, before I started, the most question I ask myself, are we in a categories that It's big enough and it's growing fast enough to be able to get us the growth we're looking for. And you cannot buy that. And we are very fortunate that we are in two big categories. And even in the vulnerability management and basically the migration into exposure, it almost feels like it has a refuel of interest again. So there's two categories that we have very strong position in. We are definitely a leader. We have the right to win, and we're invited to participate, and that's itself extremely important. How can we basically find growth? The way I look at it is a sequence. This is not going to be a one-quarter turnaround. It's going to be multiple quarters, and the way I think about it, first, the cash generated will be able to demonstrate how well and how precise we're running the business. Number two, we need the non-quarter clear, and we already... We need to basically understand what that is and we make it all the right structure to allow us to do that. And number three, we need to stabilize the core itself. Within the core, there is a lot of great assets, a good position, but there is some more work we needed to do. And that's why we are refunneling part of the investment and putting behind that. And fourth, we will get back again to growth. I believe the category we're in will allow us to do so. The work we're doing will allow us to get there faster.

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Jonathan Ho
Analyst at William Blair

Excellent. And just in terms of the strong margins that you guided to in the fourth quarter, I just want to better understand, I mean, is this a starting point then for 2027? Or can you maybe help shape what the endpoint looks like in terms of what you want to ultimately achieve? Thank you.

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Wael Mohamed
Chief Executive Officer

You know, when I was at the board, I was actually part of the work on Kinzo. And I was very, very excited because it can be able to allow us to do two things. Not only we can be able to provide services at scale with a software like margins, but it will allow us to connect our solutions together with a common data structure. So I believe that basically the AI-first work that Dan is doing It will allow us to not only maintain the margin that we're providing today, but actually sustain it even better. I will pass it to Rafe. He can share with you how we're thinking about it. We want to run a business that's profitable, high margin, and at scale. The only way we can be able to do that in the category we are in is to be able to make sure that our gross margin is best in class.

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Rafe Brown
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, Jonathan, I would add, just to add to that, one of the things that I think we're pleased to be able to talk about today is we talked about improving margins as we went through 2026. We're delivering on that, and I think that was an important goal for us. That balanced growth that Wael's talking about is how we really look out across the next few years, frankly, about how we're focusing. We want to invest in the product so we can drive growth. That is incredibly important, and we think that will be a big driver of valuation over the longer term. We also realize that the margins on the bottom line are incredibly important, so we've taken a big step today. We're obviously not giving 2027 guidance yet, but Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Fatima Bulani with Citi. Please unmute to ask your question.

speaker
Kahe Alani
Conference Operator

Good afternoon.

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Fatima Bulani
Analyst at Citi

Thank you so much for taking my questions. While you counted a number of ways in which you're setting the foundation for running a more streamlined business and a streamlined execution, but specifically I wanted to ask you on the non-core product portfolio, is the eventual Thank you so much for joining us. out of the non-core and providing them a bridge into the core. I was wondering if you could help us a little bit around is the entire non-core portfolio eligible to move into the core or perhaps there's an opportunity to deprecate and or rationalize some of what's in that portfolio under the auspices of just becoming more efficient as an organization. And then I have a follow-up as well, please.

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Wael Mohamed
Chief Executive Officer

Sounds good. Thank you, Fatima. And those are very good questions. The way I look at it at the non-core, certain categories that require a different type of investment if you're going to be competing with the pure players. and those races are not the one that we're actually going after. We're focusing all our energy and our investment behind the one that we're already a leader and we can participate and basically grow with those categories. Nonetheless, we have an incredible amount of technologies and our customer base is intertwined. So some of those technologies will basically be servicing our customers from the vignettes of our platform. So we are basically looking at every opportunities to make sure that we can provide outcomes to our customers, but also not to chase certain races that the market already decided and the pure play game is not going to be ours to win. There is enough for us to win. There is a big market that is pulling us and we need to put the appropriate investments so we can make sure that we can have our lion's share of those subcategories as well. As a matter of fact, I believe there is a category envy, like the neighboring Industry players, they are already coming from EDR and they see there's a lot of action in MDR. So we'll see some competition coming sideways. They don't have the right to win because they are not vendor neutral like we are. They don't really have the strength and the depth that we have. We have thousands of customers relying on us every single day. So we really need to focus to make sure we defend our turf that we have earned and that may make us actually de-emphasize in some subcategories that we would not be able to actually chase. We have to make some choices.

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Fatima Bulani
Analyst at Citi

Understood. Thank you. Very clear. And then you mentioned earlier that, you know, the core of the portfolio is around finding things, but then being able to also fix them, right? So this whole patch management and remediation window that has effectively vanished against the innovation that we've seen out of the large language model. providers. So I'm curious just from an asset management, patch management perspective, what intellectual property you have there and why do you feel that a detection and response angle to solving that approach is the right way versus a traditional asset management or patch management intellectual property? Thank you very much.

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Wael Mohamed
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you. We are in a very fortunate position. Over the years, we have assembled some deep technology, deep expertise, and we understand our customer environment extremely well. Sometimes we see the alerts before the event enters, and sometimes we are actually integrated within the customer where we can actually work with them to be able to tackle some attacks and making sure that we respond swiftly. but what we saw in order for us to do this the way the market is going we needed to have a common data backbone that when we have a common data backbone that it allow us to leverage customers assets instead of asking them to replace it so from an architecture perspective we basically had to focus on that that also gonna be the basis for the agentic work that we're actually working towards And with that, we can be able to do way more than what we're doing today. It's the combination between our expertise and our people and the future agents. We should be able to actually close those gaps. And there's going to be many gaps actually in the future more than today. And customers are asking us, How can you be able to help us at scale? And that's really the work that we're doing right now in the platform. And we see that customers will be coming to us asking not only to find the vulnerabilities, not only to make sure that it's exploitable, but help them to close all the gaps, all the seams, and help them to fix. The ultimate answer is patching. But there is a lot of things you can be able to do if you cannot patch on time.

speaker
Kahe Alani
Conference Operator

I appreciate the detail. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Brian Essex with JP Morgan. Please unmute to ask your question.

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Brian Essex
Analyst at JP Morgan

Great. Thank you for taking the question and good afternoon. Maybe first of all, Rafe, thank you again for another good quarter of transparency. We really appreciate the level of detail. And then maybe for Wael, we would love to understand what you're seeing in the pipeline. It seems as though we're in kind of an unprecedented for some of the business that your core segments are exposed to. So we'd love to know, are you seeing the acceleration pipeline? And if you are, it seems as though the assumptions around the core business are relatively conservative. If you could maybe kind of contextualize your outlook for that business, how conversion win rates are kind of and what your expectations might be for potential upside downside to those expectations, given what you're seeing in the environment on the customer side. And then I've got a follow up for Corey.

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Wael Mohamed
Chief Executive Officer

Sounds great. And thank you, Brian. So the way I look at it, like I just talked to some of my team members who came back from Black Hat and the excitement and the talk around basically our solution, it was very much notable. Nonetheless, I see customers actually now exploring more than buying as they're basically trying to figure out who are the players that are going to need to be putting bets behind. And they're actually asking a lot of questions about Exposure management and detection and response. A lot of questions. And some of the questions is related to what type of investment do you need to make? What type of basically integration need to happen? and what is our vision and philosophy when it comes to agenda? And what do you need to basically be prepared to do? And also, what is the connections between exposure management and detection response and how we see that? I cannot really wait for this week to pass us by. It's been a very difficult week for us as a company where we actually had to make some major restructuring. I am very positive that we should be able to participate. I actually participated in a lot of customers calls in the last few weeks and the last couple of months. And to my surprise, the customers actually asking us for answers. We have 10,000 plus customers. We've been doing business for years. The level of confidence that we can be able to give them answers is definitely there. Nonetheless, there is some more work we need to do to sharpen our story and connect it together. And that's going to be my job in the next couple of months.

speaker
Rafe Brown
Chief Financial Officer

And Brian, I would just add on a couple of the points you called out there. I think we've been very pleased as the year has been developing. Remember, the sales leadership team was really brand new at the beginning of the year. We continue to see productivity per rep go up. The team's really done a lot of work focusing on their pipeline generation efforts. And also, frankly, as precursor to the things we're talking about now on a regular basis, Really directing the team's efforts so they make sure we're selling our core platform solutions. And we could see strong evidence of all three of those elements coming into play in Q2. So I think Allan and the team have done a great job there. It's part of the longer journey. It's got to be paired with the product releases. But when we look at the competitive deals that we went head-to-head against our well-known competitors, We win because of great sales execution combined with the product that's there today. So we have room to get out there and win, and I think that's always super encouraging to us as we gain momentum under new leadership on the product side. We really hope that that's going to play out in a very positive way. It may take some quarters for it to become large enough and evident enough for everybody on this call, but we're really encouraged by those elements, that just good execution in the trenches, if you will.

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Brian Essex
Analyst at JP Morgan

I really appreciate the color. Maybe a quick one for Corey. Just because, Corey, you have the context here. From a restructuring perspective, you guys have gone through a number of changes over the years. Back in 2023, I think 18% of the workforce, and as Rafe just mentioned, you have new sales leadership in place. I would just love to, if you could just wrap some context around the changes that you're going through now. How they're different than ones that you've gone through before and what the environment is for attracting and retaining talent. Wael, feel free to interject as well. But Corder, just because you have that context, historical context, would love your insight.

speaker
Corey Thomas
Executive Chairman

No, absolutely. And context is important. So I think the biggest change, especially from the last time that we did this, we have a lot more clarity today. Keep in mind, today we enter with doing this with a completely revised leadership team that's operated at this scale, that's actually done turnarounds, that's done growth. So we enter it with a strong team. We enter it with clarity of knowing where we need to focus and, frankly, where we need to defocus. and so we do this work with more purpose in mind and more clarity about like where we're going and what we want to become and frankly a very inspired view of the work that we could do for our customers in the future. When Wael talks about sort of the reallocation of focus and investment, it's something he's quite serious about is that we are investing and building something that's not just relevant, but leverages lots of the great technologies and lots of the great work that we've done and Bill Dunn for our customers. So I think today we're doing it from a place of clarity and focus and not that it wasn't important before. We knew the right things that we needed to do before, but we were still evolving the direction. We have a lot more clarity about where we need to actually go and we have a team that actually has the experience doing it. I appreciate that. Thank you. Absolutely.

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Brian Essex
Analyst at JP Morgan

Yeah, I'm sorry. Go ahead.

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Wael Mohamed
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, no problem. That's okay. Just to follow on what Corey said is... From day one, and my partnership with Corey on the board and as a CEO was understanding the culture of the company, making sure that everybody understand why we're doing this, understand exactly the compositions and the options. And in the last couple of months, regularly we've been communicating with the team the the the basically the finding the structure and and the whys so um so as as as basically Corey said uh everybody's to my surprise actually the leadership the new and the existing and and even the second level and the third level the embracing of the change was there and this has all been fueled by conviction that we're actually in a place where we can serve as customers in a way that the customer wants to serve them. And that's really what's driving all these changes. Thank you, Wael.

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Kahe Alani
Conference Operator

Thanks. Your next question comes from Joseph Gallo with Jefferies. Please unmute to ask your question.

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Joseph Gallo
Analyst at Jefferies

Hey guys, thanks for the question. Wael, there's a lot of changes and you've talked about products a lot on the call, but can you just talk a little bit more about go-to-market refinement? Any more changes expected there with the 12% of jobs impacted? Is that also impacting the go-to-market organization? And then just as part of my follow-up, Rafe, how are you embedding all of that uncertainty and job impact into guidance? When we look at your guide, Is it more prudent than the previous guides that you've given, or is the right read that ARR decline should worsen versus the past two quarters? Thanks.

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Wael Mohamed
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you. You know, when we actually have been looking at this, we've been looking at this before I started on the board. Corey and the team have been actually looking at how we can be able to reshape our company into the future for growth. So the addition of Rafe for precision and Allan as a CCO for scale and Dan for the AI first, that was actually always from day one in the structure. On the go-to-market, I had a partnership with Allan when I was actually on the board and today as a CEO and made sure that any restructuring we're making, it will not impact the scale we need to be able to actually continue with our transformation. It's a multiple basically sequence. And I believe that the way we actually did the restructuring, we tried to be very, very careful in a couple of areas. Number one is the anything to do with customer journey. Pre or post, we make sure that we have all the right resources that allow us to get there safely. We need to protect our customer base. We need to protect our turf. We need to show up when customers invite us. And we need to be able to have our fair share when Rafe. Many times actually we get invited and we get shortlisted and we get selected. But even when I examine the time when we do not get selected, I feel we can improve that and we can actually increase that win rate. And Allan is laser focused on it. He has done a very good job taking our existing great go-to-market team, augmented it with basically done it before team members. And I think the combination will allow us to be able to navigate.

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Rafe Brown
Chief Financial Officer

On the guidance side, obviously this is something you look at when you're looking across the team. As Wael mentioned, the reorganization, every group participated in the reorganization to one extent or the other. There was and will always be a very big focus on those individuals who frankly touch customers or on the front lines, whether it's on the customer success side or on the new sales side. So we tried to be very, very prudent as we looked at where savings opportunities had to be taken. But, you know, it is something we considered as we were forming our guidance. Thank you.

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Kahe Alani
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from Mita Marshall with Morgan Stanley. Please unmute to ask your question.

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Mita Marshall
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Great, thanks. Maybe a question. You noted Dan has been doing some significant work for a couple months, and I know that there's been a lot of work being done over the last year to kind of add a lot of features into the MDR product. So just, you know, how do you think about, you know, obviously the product will be continuously evolving, but when should we kind of think of judging milestones in terms of kind of the products for both exposure management MDR kind of being where you would like closer to where you would like to see them. And then the second question just on MDR, just any pricing commentary of what you're seeing in the market would be helpful. Thanks.

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Wael Mohamed
Chief Executive Officer

Great. Yes, we've been actually doing a lot of work on the product, not only in the last couple of months, but for then, for the last year. And I see that with the win rate and how we can basically win some of the RFPs coming our way. and we will continue to basically make the right investment. On the DNR, I sat with customers and I can see who are the competition and most times actually price was never the differentiator. They're looking for a partner that can be able to help them and can be able to be there. And they're looking for a lot of references. And we have plenty of references that we can be able to furnish to those customers to give them the comfort. I've talked to some customers. And when we basically talk about the sensitivity, I did not see that the price sensitivity. There's a customer that we're talking to. It was mostly about the service level, the ability to evolve. into the agentic and the AI world. That was the number one priority for them. And then when you talk about basically the exposure management, I think it's just focus. I think we just needed to put more focus and let the team know that this is definitely not only core, but it's very much a priority because it will help us to complete the journey of our customers. Not only we can find things, we can be able to fix it. The connection is extremely important. Thank you very much. Great. Thanks so much.

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Kahe Alani
Conference Operator

The next question comes from Adam Tindall with Raymond James. Please unmute to ask your question.

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Adam Tindall
Analyst at Raymond James

Okay, thanks. Wael, you mentioned that you're asking investors to judge you on cash generated over time, and you're addressing profitability now in generating cash, which is especially important with that debt instrument coming due in March, makes total sense. Then beyond this, I think you mentioned your other thing that you asked investors to judge you on was how you reinvest. And that's the part that I wanted to ask you about as we kind of squint forward. You've been on the board for other initiatives that involve accelerating hiring. Today, we're making the decision to restructure. So what would be different about that period of time where you're investing once we get to that point? What have you learned and what might be different as you enter into that phase?

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Wael Mohamed
Chief Executive Officer

When I was at the board, it was very clear that there is definitely a core and non-core component in our book. It was very clear. And making sure that we have the right categorization was very important. As I sat in the seat, I was pleasantly surprised that most of the decline happened in the non-core. So I thought I was going to come in. I'm going to try to do some basically shifting and showing the team why we needed to be able to focus on the core more and de-emphasize the non-core. But it was very, very clear. And the work was done for me when the majority of the decline was happening in the non-core. But the other part that was very surprising to me is the appetite of our customers to talk to us and work with us and want us to give them more. Like I know the subcategory that we'll play in are attractive. And as I said, there's a category, Envy, where I saw myself in the outside. Endpoint players are trying to become in the MDR because they know there is projects, there is budget, and there is action. So they're trying to get in. Although they don't have the right to win, we have the right to win. We are actually invited. and that made me feel stronger about accelerating the restructure that fast and redirecting our energy into these two important subcategories. Some of them are growing fast, the others will actually start growing faster and we need to be ready. There is a lot of work we need to do to make sure we can really get our fair share from that upcoming growth, if you will.

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Adam Tindall
Analyst at Raymond James

Great, thanks. Maybe just a quick follow-up, and this might be for Rafe. I just wanted to ask for a little bit more quantification around the restructuring, if possible. What maybe hits in Q3? What is incremental in Q4? Because it's quite a ramp on EBIT margin. I imagine there's dollars of savings to the extent that you could maybe just Help us with the quantification of that. And secondly, Rafe, sorry to throw two at you, but I would also be interested in the cash costs of the restructuring. I couldn't help but notice your strong cash flow guide for fiscal 26. So just wondering how you considered that when you looked at the $130 million, I think what you guided to for cash. Thanks.

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Rafe Brown
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, thank you. I think in terms of the split of the benefit, and you can frankly see this looking at the operating income guide between Q3 and the full year, kind of gives you the full view. Q3 is obviously, the restructuring is happening partway into the quarter. And obviously, especially as we look around the world, the discussions are ongoing that's You know, pursuant to local law. So Q3 is, you know, we'll not see that much of the benefit really, you know, when all things being equal. Q4, you start to get a much cleaner view of it. So you, you know, have a, you can see that full impact because it'll be, you know, a quarter where By and large, we'll work through all of that. So that's what is really driving that big increase we're projecting for Q4. On the cash side, you're spot on. Again, we do have the severance costs. And as I mentioned in the in the scripted part of the call, most of those severance costs will fall in Q3 and Q4. And that offsets essentially a lot of the savings that we're getting from the restructuring. So we've been calling out approximately $130 million of free cash flow all year long. So we're really just staying with that and working towards that number. It will be more back-end loaded, just the way the timing of the collections goes, as well as the severance costs and whatnot from the restructuring.

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Adam Tindall
Analyst at Raymond James

Helpful details. Thank you.

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Kahe Alani
Conference Operator

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