Chevron Corporation

Good morning. My name is Katie and I'll be your conference facilitator today. Welcome to Chevron's first quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session and instructions will be given at that time. If anyone should require assistance during the conference call, please press star then zero on your touchtone telephone. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I will now turn the conference call over to the head of investor relations of Chevron Corporation, Mr. Jake Spearing. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Katie. Welcome to Chevron's first quarter 2025 earnings conference call and webcast. I'm Jake Spearing, head of investor relations. Our chairman and CEO, Mike Wirth, and our CFO, Emer Bonner, are on the call with me today. We'll refer to the slides and prepared remarks that are available on Chevron's website. Before we begin, Please be reminded that this presentation contains estimates, projections, and other forward-looking statements. A reconciliation of non-GAAP measures can be found in the appendix to this presentation. Please review the cautionary statement and additional information presented on slide two. Now, I will turn it over to Mike.

Thanks, Jake. This quarter, Chevron delivered strong performance and advanced our plans to further strengthen the company over the near and long term. This included multiple project startups and asset divestitures. Our Advantage portfolio underpins a track record of consistently rewarding shareholders through the cycle. Cash returned to shareholders has exceeded $5 billion for 12 consecutive quarters. In the first quarter, we returned $6.9 billion through dividends and buybacks. We also acquired nearly 5% of HESA's common shares and look forward to completing the merger in the coming months. Recent macro uncertainty underscores the importance of cost and capital discipline, both core to Chevron's leadership. Our 2025 CapEx and affiliate CapEx budgets represent a $2 billion reduction from last year, and we've targeted $2 to $3 billion in structural cost savings to be delivered by the end of next year. Chevron has a proven track record of managing through uncertainty and commodity cycles, and with longstanding financial priorities as our guide, we're well positioned to win in any environment. We're focused on execution to unlock industry-leading cash flow growth. At TCO, we reached nameplate capacity in just 30 days, significantly ahead of plan. We expect cash distributions from TCO to increase going forward, including a $1 billion loan repayment in the third quarter. In the Gulf of America, we achieved first oil at Ballymore this month. This is the latest in a series of major project startups within the past year, and they are expected to increase production to 300,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day in 2026. The expansion of our Pasadena refinery has further strengthened our Gulf Coast value chain. And we've made good progress on our asset sale program, achieving premium valuations while retaining future upside in East Texas gas assets that could deliver over $1 billion in value at today's prices. In February, we announced senior leadership appointments and changes to our operating model to enable more efficient execution. We're also expanding our pipeline of future opportunities. adding more than 11 million net exploration acres since the start of last year, advancing our gigawatt-scale power solutions venture to support the U.S. AI data center build-out, and participating in a pipeline project to increase export capacity in Argentina. Now I'll turn it over to Emer to go over the financials.

Thanks, Mike. For the first quarter, Chevron reported earnings of $3.5 billion or $2 per share. Adjusted earnings were $3.8 billion, or $2.18 per share. Included in the quarter were special items, totaling $175 million. Legal and tax charges were partially offset by the fair value measurement of the HES shares. Foreign currency effects decreased earnings by $138 million. Organic CapEx was $3.5 billion, our lowest quarterly total in two years. Inorganic CapEx was approximately $400 million, primarily related to investment in our power solutions partnership. Chevron generated cash flow from operations of $7.6 billion, excluding working capital. Working capital was primarily tax payments related to the sale of our Canadian assets that completed in the fourth quarter 2024. We expect a working capital unwind of $1 billion over the remainder of the year. In the quarter, we issued new long-term debt of $5.5 billion. Purchase of HES shares is expected to reduce the number of Chevron shares issued at closing by approximately 16 million. Compared with last quarter, adjusted earnings were $200 million higher. Adjusted upstream earnings were flat to last quarter, higher realizations and timing effects were offset by lower listings and lower affiliate earnings, mainly from higher DDNA at TCO. Adjusted downstream earnings were higher due to improved refining margins and lower turnarounds and maintenance. First quarter oil equivalent production was flat to last quarter. Production from the future growth project at TCO and recent project startups in the Gulf of America offset impacts from asset sales. We expect growth towards a sustained 1 million barrels of oil equivalent per day to resume in the Permian in the second quarter with higher frack activity. Chevron's strategy and financial priorities remain consistent and our track record is proven. We've grown our dividend for 38 consecutive years through multiple commodity cycles, leading our peers in growth over the last decade. We've built a resilient upstream portfolio that leads our peers in break-evens. We're delivering growth projects that are expected to generate an incremental $9 billion of free cash flow in 2026. Our capital program is as flexible and efficient as it's ever been, with the majority of our 2025 spend directed to short cycle assets and soon to be online deep water projects such as those in the Gulf of America and Eastern Mediterranean. Our balance sheet remains strong. with net debt ratio of 14%, well below our target range of 20 to 25%. We've repurchased shares 18 of the last 22 years and bought back at record levels in the past two years. We provided a guidance range for annual buybacks of $10 to $20 billion, depending on market conditions, more than two years ago. That guidance remains unchanged. In line with the current macro environment, we expect share repurchases to be $2.5 to $3 billion in the second quarter. I'll now hand it off to Jake.

That concludes our prepared remarks. Additional guidance can be found in the appendix to this presentation and the slides and other information posted on chevron.com. We are now ready to take your questions. We ask that you limit yourself to only one question. We will do our best to get all of your questions answered. Katie, please open the lines.

Thank you. If you have a question at this time, please press star 1 on your touchtone telephone. To allow for questions from more participants, we ask you limit yourself to one question. If your question has been answered or you wish to remove yourself from the queue, please press star 2. If you are listening on a speakerphone, we ask you please lift your handset before asking your question to provide optimum sound quality. Again, if you have a question, please press star 1 on your touchtone telephone. Our first question comes from Neil Mehta with Goldman Sachs.

Yeah, good morning, Mike and team. Mike, I know you were in Kazakhstan a couple of weeks ago, so I'd love a full rundown of your perspective on TCO. Specifically, the startup looks like that has gone really well. Early discussions around the concession extension. and then your perspective around production levels and risk of curtailment.

Okay. Well, hey, thanks, Neil. First of all, you know, I am really pleased with the commissioning and startup performance at the Future Growth Project. It was a world-class ramp. We achieved nameplate capacity in less than 30 days. This was due to extensive testing of equipment during the commissioning phase, leveraging a lot of the same people, procedures, and other practices that were put in service for the Wellhead Pressure Management Project over the prior 12 months, applying learnings from some of our other major capital startup projects over the years. We brought in experienced operators from the existing operations that are familiar with the field, with the operating conditions, and people that have participated in other startups. So it was just very, very well executed. We'll continue in the short term to do performance testing of major equipment under actual operating conditions, process optimization, et cetera. So we are very, very pleased with that startup and the performance to date. I did travel to Kazakhstan last month And I had an opportunity to meet with President Takaev. We had a very good visit. We talked about our historic partnership. We talked about our investments in the country and how they've delivered value over the last three decades plus. And with the project behind us, we did turn our discussion to the future. And there was mutual intent expressed to negotiate an agreement which extends the concession beyond 2033. I took away a very positive response. outlook on that. We think it's in everyone's best interest to try to complete these negotiations in a timely manner. That said, these are complex discussions. They do take some time to complete, and we'll provide updates on that as appropriate as those efforts advance.

Thank you, Neil.

We'll take our next question from Jean Ann Salisbury with Bank of America.

Hi, good morning. A lot has been going on in the California refining market with the recently announced competitor closures of refineries. How are you thinking about your position there?

Yeah, so we've got a strong position. We've got two refineries that have good scale, good complexity. We've got strong integrated value chains with a strong brand in the marketplace. I'm not surprised. to see the announcements that have come out. We've been pretty vocal that the policies coming out of the state and out of Sacramento particularly make it nearly impossible to invest in California going forward. The result of that has been significantly higher costs for consumers than in the rest of the country. There's the risk that supply of fuels is going to be tighter, and that creates future risk. On the last call, I said some of these policies, including the state inserting itself into operational matters like planning turnarounds, I think is an unwise move. I think central planning of the economy hasn't worked in other socialist states, and it won't work in California is my prediction. We do not have any announcements on our refineries at this time. Thank you, GM.

We'll take our next question from Baraj Borkataria with RBC.

Hi, thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to go back to the financial framework and the decision to slow down on the buyback today. If I look at the last 12 months, the payout ratio has been almost 100%, and that was obviously at a lower price of much higher than it is today, so I'm just trying to reconcile how cash generation would look at $60 or maybe below and how to reconcile that with the low end of the $10 to $20 billion range. Because to me, it looks like the bottom end of the range should maybe be lower than that $10 billion. So how are you thinking about the balance between executing the buybacks on a consistent basis and then obviously leaning on the balance sheet? Because that balance sheet has allowed you to do counter-cyclical deals like Noble and things like that. So I appreciate some cover on that. Thank you.

Yeah, thanks, Baraj. Taking back to our longstanding financial priorities, the first priority is to grow the dividend. We've increased that for 38 years in a row, a 5% increase earlier this year. Second is to invest in the business. We've been very disciplined with capital, lowered organic capital by $1 billion this year and affiliate capital by another $1 billion this this year, keeping a strong balance sheet, you know, 14% net debt, a AA credit rating, which is something very few companies in any industry carry. And then buybacks with a through-the-cycle approach. We've reproduced shares in 18 of the last 22 years, including through COVID, through the financial crisis. And, you know, more than two years ago, we announced or we introduced guidance on the buybacks with a range of $10 to $20 billion based on a view of the external environment. The high end of that was premised on a strong outlook on the commodity. The lower end of that was based on a weaker outlook for the commodity. And I think it was 85-ish on the top end and 60-ish on the bottom end. And so, you know, for most of the last two years, we've been in the upper portion of that range. The market has moved to the lower portion of that range and our guidance remains within that range. So I think it's important to look at this through the cycle. The rate at which we're buying shares back now is higher than at any point in our history other than the last three years. In 22, 23, and 24 were the highest buyback years we've had. Before that, we never even had a year that got above eight. And and we've been much stronger than that here subsequently and continue to do that forward. So the range is unchanged. We've also always said that we would move back towards a 20% to 25% net debt ratio through the cycle, and so this move is consistent with that. The last thing I'll say is we've been through these cycles before. We know what to do. We know how to manage through it, and we know that opportunity can present itself, as you referenced earlier, and we will remain attentive to those kinds of opportunities if and when they arise, and we'll retain the financial strength to consider them.

Baraj, I might just add a little bit on your point on cash generation at 60. So as we guided to in the last quarter, we're poised to deliver leading free cash flow growth, $10 billion of incremental free cash flow growth at 70. That's $9 billion. And, you know, the key catalysts that deliver that are the startups of kind of our major projects and the achievement of major milestones, and all of that is well underway. And then the completion of our cost reduction program as well that's off and running. So just the cash generation, we feel that that is very resilient even at lower prices, and we're prepared. Thanks, Baraj.

We'll take our next question from Doug Leggett with Wolf Research.

Doug? Oh, sorry.

I was on mute. Schoolboy error. I'm so sorry about that. Hey, Mike, thanks for taking my question. Gosh, I was going to ask about the macro, but I didn't want to ask such an asinine question, but you seem to be in the crosshairs of probably the two most important macro stories in the market right now, and I just love your perspective on it. The first is obviously Venezuela and the potential loss of production there, and the other is what appears to be an impending market share battle going on with the declaration of cooperation, single-handedly seemingly pointed at Tengiz. In other words, the startup of production has exacerbated Kazakhstan's overproduction against their quota, and of course that's seems to be what's driving these accelerated decisions by OPEC+. So I guess my question is, can you offer any perspective on the physical changes you're seeing in your business in Venezuela? And when you met with the president, was there any consideration whatsoever of curtailment to try and help meet their quotas? Because frankly, if the answer is no, it's pretty very for the oppressed.

Yeah, so I'll start with Venezuela, Doug. I think the news coverage on this has been pretty accurate. We've got a long history in the country and believe that our presence has been a good thing for Venezuela, been a good thing for the U.S. We've been operating under different forms of sanctions from OFAC, going back to the first Trump administration through the Biden administration and ongoing under the current one. Recent changes have... resulted in us being unable to pay our tax and royalty payments for liftings that were being made to bring Venezuelan oil to the U.S. And so those liftings have come to a halt. The barrels are still flowing. They're just going to other markets. China's the biggest importer of Venezuelan oil. There are media reports that government officials from Venezuela have been in China this week discussing even more sales to China. Our current license reaches its end on May 27th. We're in dialogue with the government on how that license will be modified and extended if, in fact, that's what they choose to do, and that's certainly been the history over the many years I just referenced. So we'll share more about that as we know more, but the barrels are flowing. They're just not flowing to the U.S. today. On OPEC Plus in Kazakhstan, You know, there really were not discussions of that. We don't engage in discussions about OPEC or OPEC Plus targets. And my discussion with the president focused on, A, the startup of the project, which has been good, and, B, the future. And so, you know, the fact of the matter is the barrels we produce at TCO are of high value to the government. They're important. to their fiscal balance, and historically those barrels have not been curtailed. Anything beyond that I would refer you over to, you know, people that speak on behalf of OPEC Plus or the countries.

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Lloyd Byrne with Jefferies.

Hey. Good morning, Mike, team. Thank you for all your answers. I was going to ask about the return of capital, and I think that's a really good answer you guys had. But let me try the Gulf of Mexico. The Ballymore is online. Can you just walk through the next steps to get to the $300,000 today, and are there any hurdles we have to look out for?

Yeah, as I said, we're very pleased with Ballymore. That project in particular has some of the most prolific wells that we've seen in the Gulf of America, and frankly, well beyond that. The expectation as we ramp up there is that we'll see 25,000 barrels a day flow from each of three wells. So 75,000 barrels a day of production from just three wells. We've got two of those wells online right now and ramping them up. The third one will come online later this year. The project's been executed on time, on budget, and in just three years. They're also, interestingly, some of the highest temperature wells we've ever seen, 325 degrees down in the formation, which other prolific fields in the Gulf of America have been, you know, at 275, 250, 225. So a very interesting field, a very prolific field. Well, you know, I won't speak for the operator. I'll just say that the startup there has been smooth, and we expect that to ramp through 2025, and I'd refer you to them for details. And at Anchor, we've got two wells online right now that are performing very well. We expect two additional wells to come online this year, one around mid-year, one towards the end of the year, and remaining wells to come online in 26 and 27. So at each project, we've got strong production flowing. We've got drilling activity and completion activity underway or in the queue. rigs, vessels, crews all assigned to them. And so, you know, in the Gulf, weather can always be a bit of a risk. But other than that, from an execution standpoint, these are all three in a very good posture.

Thank you. We'll go next to Ryan Todd with Piper Sandler.

Great, thanks. You've got a slide in the deck looking at Permian well performance. and the improvement you've seen there in the Delaware Basin in 2024. Can you talk about, I mean, you've talked about some of this in the past, but can you talk about what drove the difference, whether in terms of well-mixed development strategy, completions, et cetera, and what you see as the potential implications for the 2025 program or outlook?

Yeah, so just to ground everybody, roughly 80% of our development program last year was in the Delaware Basin. And we saw a strong improvement in performance there versus the year prior. In particular, the second bone spring in New Mexico outperformed expectations. We also had good performance in the Texas portion of the Delaware and the Wolf Camp C and the Wolf Camp A, which showed good year-on-year performance improvements. So we expect 2025 type curves. to look pretty similar to what we saw last year in the Delaware. And again, most of our program is in the Delaware, 85% as we look at 2025. So even a little bit more than we saw last year. Last thing maybe I'll say on that, Ryan, is sometimes we had questions when I'm meeting with investors on gas-oil ratio. We are Right now, seeing an oil cut that's somewhere in the range of 43% to 45%. We think that's going to continue as we move through the end of the decade. It may move around a little bit by quarter based on pop timing and geography, but we expect that to be pretty stable. And also on New Mexico, we're going to see more pops in New Mexico this year than we did last year. And overall, those tend to be bigger wells. They're more productive wells. They produce more oil. They also produce more gas. But very pleased with performance in the Permian and feel very good about the outlook for this year.

Thank you, Ryan.

We'll go next to Paul Cheng with Scotiabank.

Thank you. Good morning. It seems like – thank you. There's some good news from Cyprus. You guys signed with the government to allow the gas project to go to proceed. Can you give us some idea that maybe update us in terms of the timeline? What's the next step, the size of the project in terms of the gas volume, any colors that you can provide? Thank you.

Yeah, you bet, Paul. I'll start by saying we're excited about our entire portfolio in the eastern Mediterranean, and that is a tribute to the people at Noble. This is largely a legacy Noble energy position. We've got some good exploration acreage in the offshore Egypt area that we brought to the table as well and expectations for some exploration wells there in the coming couple of years. But it was a nice milestone to see that we've got an agreed field development plan for Aphrodite, some updates to the PSA there. And the initial development plan, Paul, is going to be a floating production unit in Cypriot waters, production of about 800 million cubic feet of gas per day. The gas would flow to Egypt, a market that's growing and has a need for more gas. The demand there is very strong. We entered pre-feed activities in the first quarter. We're working to ensure that we can get competitive returns out of this project. There's some commercial work that needs to be done as well. And all that needs to be done before we move to a potential FID. So we are, again, pleased that we've got an agreement on that. That gives you a little bit of the scale of the project in the first phase here, and we'll talk about it more as we move through the pre-feed and into feed.

Thank you. We'll go next to Stephen Richardson with Evercore ISI.

Hi. Good morning, Mike. I was wondering if you could give us your, curious on your recent thoughts on CPCAM, obviously in the middle of some pretty significant investments in that business through what looks to be a trough, um, at least in the Olson side of the business. Um, but maybe your current thoughts on the business and then also, you know, um, how are you thinking about, you know, potentially maybe owning more of it over time and, and, and how that fits into your, your, your, your current thoughts.

Sure. Thanks, Steve. Well, first of all, I'll, I'll say we, we like the longer term fundamentals of the chemicals business. Uh, We've been in a tough part of the cycle here recently as we've seen some capacity additions into the market. So it's going to take time for the market to absorb those. So we think we're still a few years away from returning to mid-cycle. But CP Chem has been a great business for us. And we've got 25 years of history roughly now. And they've been a good operator. They've been a good project executor. It's a portfolio that's significantly advantaged due to their feedstock position, which is primarily ethane in the U.S. Gulf Coast and the Middle East. They've been a very good low-cost operator, and we've got a couple of growth projects underway, one in Qatar, one in Texas, on track to come online end of 26, early 27-ish. And so it's been a very successful partnership for us over more than two decades. Getting a larger share of a business that you like is always something that you would take a look at. We have advised the partner in CP Chem that we'd be interested in acquiring the other half at a reasonable value for both parties. And we'll see how that plays out.

Thanks, Dave.

We'll take our next question from Josh Silverstein with UBS.

Good morning, guys. Chevron has a pretty unique asset in the Permian, given your mix of operated non-op and royalty volumes. Can you provide some details as to what you're seeing across the non-op and royalty side now and any reduction activity there and how that may play into the plateau level for Chevron? Thanks.

Yeah. So at this point, we don't really see any actions that have been taken to pull back by our partners. We haven't always identified exactly who our partners are, but three-quarters of our production come from larger mega cap companies, people that you cover and know. And most of that production comes in the core parts of the basin, areas that have got low break-evens and are very proven. So on NOJV, we've got a line of sight to essentially all of the AFEs, and most of the POPs, have already spud. The planned POPs for this year in our NOJV, the wells have already been spud. So I think there's a pretty high degree of confidence that we're going to see that go. On royalty, maybe not quite as high a number, but close on POPs that are also in execution. So we do have an interest, and I want to say it's one in every four acres in the Permian And a lot of that exposure gives us the ability to see exactly what's going on with other operators. And at this point, I think people are, you know, what we see is people pretty well stay in the course.

Thanks, Josh.

We'll go next to Lucas Herman with B&P Paribas.

Thanks very much. Thanks for the opportunity. Probably what... So just a question on cash flow for Ima. It looks as though the equity contribution or dividend contribution that you're anticipating this year is now $2 billion relative to, I think you'd have guided towards $1 billion of excess, et cetera, at the full year stage. Am I correct that you've changed your expectation? And if so, is that a consequence of higher expected dividends or I don't think it's a change in lower net income? So any comment, Ima, I appreciate it.

Yeah, Lucas, I think maybe the two things to point out are the impact of the TCO DDNA. So given that we started up the project in January and ramped up ahead of our original schedule, the earnings guidance going forward reflects the DDNA update. In addition to that, we've got some CP Chem. Outlook for margins has been updated as well. So those would be the two main factors. Everything else is consistent.

And Lucas, the affiliate dividend guidance for the full year is unchanged as it was. So it's just a difference between the two. Thanks.

We'll take our next question from Roger Reed with Wells Fargo.

Yeah, thanks. Good morning.

I guess maybe with, you know, the macro in a lot of people's minds, the risk of lower oil prices, just wondering, Mike, with all the changes here or, you know, project completions, Gulf of Mexico, fairly, you know, essentially through its process, Kazakhstan up and running, the Permian kind of flatlining. When we think about the resiliency of Chevron and, say, a $50 oil world, what do you think has been sort of the change in the whether you want to call it a basic line rate or the sustaining capex, like how should we think about kind of cash flows and cash capex commitments in a possibly softer oil price world?

Yeah, I mean, there's two things that I might point to, Roger. Number one is, you know, we've got a portfolio now that has a much larger percentage of it in large and very flat production profile assets, i.e. low-decline assets. So big LNG projects in Australia and Western Africa, the expansion of TCO, and frankly, the way we've been able to, in a very capital-efficient way, move towards kind of plateau-ish production with relatively highly efficient investment in some of the unconventionals. And so if I go back a decade ago, we were fighting decline, and that required a lot of capital investment and just to hold even, let alone to show some growth. And we've been showing growth here in recent years with a much lower capital budget. The second thing that's really important is the flexibility that we have in our capital budget. So, you know, we've already come down a billion dollars from last year from 16 to 15. Our capex is a percentage of cash from ops is, I think, the lowest in the industry. And almost two-thirds of our capital is either short cycle shale or project that's, you know, project spend that's completing over the next year or so. And so we've got a lot of flexibility if we need to exercise that. You know, we've shown, I would call discipline coming into this year by tightening our belt a notch and bringing capital down a little bit. But if we needed to bring capital down further, we certainly could do so. We showed in 2020, we started the year at a $20 billion capital budget. I think we finished the year at 12. So we've got the ability to flex that capital if we need to. We've not made that decision at this point, but certainly that's I would say those are the two big things that are different if you look back to days gone by.

Thank you. We'll go next to Philip Jungwirth with BMO.

Thanks. Good morning. Congrats on the startup of Ballymore, Anchor Whale before that. As we think about what's next in the Gulf of America, can you just talk about your optimism around future prospects, Paleogene or groundfield tiebacks and generally how do you see the cost structure or break even now for deepwater versus shale?

Yeah, so thanks for the congratulations. What I would say is in the relative near term you're going to see us focus on infill and stage developments. You know, we've got a long history here of projects that once we've got a new hub in place they have multiple stages of development. We've seen that at Jack St. Malo, at Tahiti, at, you know, Mad Dog and Perdido. And we're working on future stages of some of these recent startups. So an anchor phase two, a ballymore two, a whale two. And I would fully expect that you'll see us extend the life of those projects with some highly, efficient and very returns accretive further development. If you look at our exploration portfolio, 80% of it is within tieback range of existing hubs. And so Ballymore is a great example of a strategy to really focus on identifying opportunities to develop accumulations that might not support a new greenfield development, but are highly economic to tie on as a brownfield project. And so we'll continue to focus our exploration portfolio in that we've had, you know, we've been a participant in a discovery that's already been announced earlier this year and are very optimistic about our exploration program. And then the other 20% you would maybe describe as more frontier. Breakevens have come down a lot. And, you know, there was a time, again, and maybe in kind of Lincoln Rogers' question about what's changed, you know, a decade ago, We needed oil prices that were well north of what we see today to get a very modest return. Development costs were going up. They were in the 20s, headed to the 30s and higher. We're now down in the teens and pushing into the low teens on development costs through a whole different approach to facility design and construction standardization. And so we've seen the break-evens there become very competitive. They had to because we had such good opportunities in other parts of our business. So, you know, we got one of the best portfolios in the industry. And, you know, Woodmech data shows that we've got the lowest upstream break-even in the industry. And I think a big part of that is what we've been able to see in deep water development. Thank you, Phil.

We'll take our next question from Betty Jiang with Berkley's.

Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. I want to ask about the progress on the power ventures. I mean, it's clear that the AI power demand is not slowing down, and you guys have the timing advantage. How are the customer conversations going? You've spent $400 million of inorganic tapbacks in the JV in one queue. Just want to see how that spending trends over time, especially considering something like inflationary pressure we're hearing today.

Yeah, so we've been actively engaging with prospective customers and are still seeing very strong demand in those conversations. We're trying to narrow, frankly, because there are so many people that are interested in trying to partner up when you can move quickly as we can with these turbines. So we're also narrowing down the potential sites. We've screened a lot of potential locations in different geographies around the country. We have narrowed those significantly and are moving towards engineering and EPC options on the sites that we find to work the best for us and for customers, which is an important part of that. We're working toward an FID before the end of the year. As you note, speed to market is an important differentiator here. We will remain disciplined. There are cost pressures on some of the components of building out a power complex like this. We've secured pricing on the turbines themselves. There's other elements of the build-out that are also required, and between market demand, potential tariffs, and other effects, we have to We have to keep an eye on that. So we're going to stay very disciplined because this needs to generate returns that will compete in our portfolio. And if we can achieve those kinds of returns, these projects will move forward. If we can't, we will need to look at our alternatives. But right now, I would say everything is moving fast. As you said, there's a tremendous amount of interest, a tremendous amount of activity. And I'm very pleased that we're in a first mover position on this or called an early mover position.

Thank you, Betty.

We'll go next to Devin McNermott with Morgan Stanley.

Hey, thanks for taking my question. So, Mike, in your response to Roger's question before, you talked a bit about flexibility of the capital program, and Emer, you had similar comments in your prepared remarks. Given the cash flow growth you've already highlighted, the low upstream break even, strength of the balance sheet, there's probably no need to make adjustments on capital even in somewhat softer oil prices. It's probably more just about optimizing returns. But I wanted to ask about how you think about some of the parameters or market conditions that might make you make some adjustments to some of your short cycle investments in places like the Permian.

Yeah, I think you've read the situation right, Devin. We're prepared. You get into an environment like this and you pull out the playbook. And we've looked at different market scenarios in both the depth and duration of a potential commodity cycle. And we've looked at our business and how we're postured today from a production standpoint, a cash generation standpoint, a debt standpoint, and all the different levers that we have to pull and have identified the things we could do based on signposts and a view on the market. It's very early to, I think, have a high degree of confidence in terms of how this all plays out. The trade and tariff situation has been dynamic, and we need to see how that manifests itself over time. And, of course, the OPEC change is one that is relatively recent as well, and we have to see how that plays out. And so we're very well prepared, and we've been through these kinds of things before. I would say I've been in one of the senior positions in 2008 when we had the financial crisis, in 2014 when we saw prices drop in 2020 when we had COVID, and again now. I don't think we've ever been in a better position to navigate it and have had more levers available at our disposal and more strength to come through a cycle than we have today.

Devin, I would just add that, you know, our balance sheet is in a really strong position at 14% net debt. You know, our credit rating is AA. So as part of being prepared for it's ensuring that our balance sheet is strong and so that's good. I'd also mention that the cost reduction program and the capital reduction that is underway, actions that we took last year put us in a strong position as well and cost and capital discipline always matter in our business and so we are focused on delivering on the plans that are behind those reductions and they're picking up pace and and we're doing well there. So, I mean, it's preparation. We have leading indicators that we're monitoring, signposts, and we don't need to do anything additional today, but we'll be ready with those signposts to act if needed. Thank you, Devin.

We'll take our next question from John Royal with JP Morgan.

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. So I was hoping for a little more color on the expansion at Pasadena and how that's running and the benefits you're seeing overall to your Gulf Coast system. I know it was partly about synergies with Pascagoula. So maybe just a little more color on that and how the project's contributing several months into the startup.

Yeah, thanks, John. You know, the project's complete and online. We had feed into the crude unit the first week of December. and we've been ramping up to full capacity here this quarter. We had stable operations in the first quarter at about 110,000 barrels a day of crude feed, and we're really learning how to optimize that plant now at these higher feed rates. It'll allow us to run more of our own equity from the Permian, and as we look at export markets, that can be attractive to capture more full value chain margins here in the US. It'll take it up by about 50% before we could run about 85,000 barrels a day. This will take us up by 40 to 125,000 barrels a day. And so we've got the ability to supply more products to our customers in the Gulf Coast. We've got a big market position in Texas, which historically has been served through product exchanges or purchases. We can integrate fully into that now with our own production. There are very significant synergies we can realize with Pascagoula on intermediate streams that can be moved from one facility to the other for upgrading to higher value products. It also helps during turnarounds to be able to store inventories, to move intermediates back and forth or finished products back and forth. And we've got US flagged tonnage that allows us to move those streams between the two facilities. A good project to improve flexibility and margin capture here on the Gulf Coast.

Thank you, John.

We'll go next to Jason Gabelman with TD Cowan.

Yeah. Hey, Mike and team. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to go back to the buyback guidance, if I could. You know, you've cut to the low end of the range, but it is still a pretty wide range, and I think we see your peers. either guiding to a percentage of cash flow or a fixed amount that gives more visibility to where the buyback will be quarter to quarter and year to year. So I was wondering if you could provide any additional color on how to think of the pace of buybacks through the balance of the year, if it's going to oscillate between the low end of the high end of the range or where it will oscillate in between. And then the other point on that is if you could just talk about where the buyback's going to be following the Hess acquisition. You had a prior guidance of $5 billion per quarter. Sorry, I'm wondering if you have any update on that figure. Thanks.

Yeah, Jason. First of all, there's not a formula that we're going to announce a percentage of this or that, because that really, in some ways, defeats the purpose of what we've tried to do, which is to be steady through cycles and not expose investors to the uncertainty that volatile markets can introduce into this. And so you've seen our range has been consistent. We introduced it, as I said, more than two years ago. As we've issued quarterly guidance and executed, that's also been fairly consistent with the guidance and with the then current market conditions. And as we have seen market conditions change and we've modified our guidance, I would expect to remain consistent if we're in a market like the one that we're in right now. And so, you know, we don't intend to yo-yo this around if that was kind of the question. And I think our track record, you know, if you lay it out and look at it versus others, it speaks for itself that we have been able to stay steadfast and consistent, as I mentioned earlier, 18 out of 22 years, including during some significant downturns. And the absolute rates of the range that we've issued now, 10 to 20, are above anything we ever did prior to COVID. Even in the kind of late 2000s, before the financial crisis, when we were seeing $140, $150 oil markets, we were repurchasing at max one year $8 billion. And we've now had three years, I think the trailing three years, You know, the number is $50 billion in aggregate, and the 10 to 20 going forward is a very strong and robust range that you can expect us to stay within.

Jason, and maybe just specific to the guide rate that we issued for the quarter, you know, $2.5 to $3 billion. If we were to rule that forward, I mean, it would keep us well within the $10 to $20 billion range. annual range that Mike talked about. So it's still a very strong program. Putting it into the context of what we've done in the last couple of years, prices have been 15 to 20 bucks higher when we've delivered a 15 billion dollar program and we'll deliver something between 11 and 13 if we just project out. So it's still a very strong program. We're still buying a significant amount of our shares and that's on top of a dividend that's growing faster than our peers on the S&P 500. Thanks, Jason.

Thank you. We'll take our final question from Bob Brackett with Bernstein Research.

Good morning. Thanks for getting me in. A question around the tariff situation and how it might impact either CapEx or projects. What are some of the things you can do to adjust to tariffs in terms of controlling costs?

Yeah, Bob, we're watching this very closely and preparing and actually in the process of taking some actions to mitigate the impacts. Our direct exposure is relatively limited. Energy has been largely exempted from tariffs. And if you're looking at our cost structure, goods that we buy, of our third-party spend, roughly 80% of it is on services, not on goods. Of the 20% that is spent on goods, a lot of that tends to be sourced locally or regionally. In our U.S., for example, where our largest portion of our capital spend is, we've got strong domestic sourcing on most of the goods that we use in our unconventional programs in the DJ and the Permian for instance. Our current estimate is we may see 1% impact on the cost of a shale well. So, you know, it's a dynamic environment, and we'll watch how these things evolve. But we've got strong engagement with our suppliers. We've got sourcing from multiple locations, and we've been, you know, anticipating this and preparing for it. So the impact is not zero, but I think the impact is manageable, and it's, you know, You've seen announcements in other industries where they're more directly exposed than we are.

Thank you, Bob. I would like to thank everyone for your time today. We appreciate your interest in Chevron and your participation on today's call. Please stay safe and healthy.

Katie, back to you. Thank you.

This concludes Chevron's first quarter 2025 earnings conference call. You may now disconnect.