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Dauch Corporation
8/7/2026
Good morning. My name is Rocco, and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Dauch Corporation's second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on the screen to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer period. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press the star key, then the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press the star key, then the number two. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. David Lim, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Mr. Lim.
Thank you, Rocco, and good morning, everyone. I'd like to welcome everyone who is joining us on Dauch Corporation's second quarter earnings call. Now, earlier this morning, we released our second quarter of 2026 earnings announcement. You can access this announcement on the Investor Relations page at of our website www.dauch.com and through the PR Newswire services. You can also find supplemental slides for this conference call on the investor page of our website. The replay of this call will be available through August 14th. Replay details are in today's press release. Now before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that the matters discussed in this call may contain comments and forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties Thank you very much. Information regarding these non-GAAP measures as well as the reconciliation of the non-GAAP measures to GAAP financial information is available in the presentation. With that, let me turn things over to our Chairman and CEO, David Dauch.
Thank you, David, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss Dauch's financial results for the second quarter of 2026. Joining me on the call today is Chris May, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. The company's strong second quarter results highlight the continued positive acceleration for the new Dauch Corporation. We are focused on unlocking the full strategic potential of the transformational acquisition as we continue to successfully implement our integration plan to drive value creation and leverage our enhanced size and scale. So far, I'm very pleased with the robust start. As for today's agenda, I'll review the highlights of our second quarter financial performance. Next, I'll touch on our synergy progress some business updates, commentary about the industry, and our guidance. I'll then turn the call over to Chris to cover the details of our financial results, after which we will field any questions that you may have. So let's begin with some of the details. The company's second quarter of 2026 sales were approximately $3 billion, adjusted earnings per share was $0.32, and adjusted free cash flow was approximately $148 million. In the second quarter, North American production was flat year over year. Europe was down approximately 1%, and global production was also flat. Our quarterly performance reflects continued strength across a number of important customer programs, including BMW's LG platform that underpins the brand's X5 and X7 models, Volvo's SPA crossover utility vehicle platform, and GM's large truck program. From a profitability perspective, our adjusted EBITDA in the second quarter was $390 million, or 13.2% of sales, driven by mix, business performance, synergies, and a solid dollar contribution. Chris will provide more details about our overall financial performance during his prepared remarks. On slide four, I'd like to share an update on our synergy and value capture progress. We have now been operating for five months as a combined company, and we have already realized approximately $70 million of run rate savings to date. We remain on target to deliver more than $100 million in run rate savings by year end. We have made excellent progress in eliminating duplicative corporate costs, optimizing SG&A, and capturing global engineering efficiencies. At the same time, we're advancing initiatives across procurement and operations which naturally take longer to realize. While significant opportunities remain ahead, I'm proud of the strong progress our team continues to make. As we have previously communicated, we expect to deliver approximately $180 million in run rate savings by the end of year two and the full $300 million in run rate savings by the end of year three. Let me talk about some business updates which you can see on slide five. We want to highlight that our company was named a Ford Supplier of the Year award recipient in the quality category for our outstanding performance, dedication, and collaboration during the 2025 fiscal year. The recognition reflects a collective effort across our organization to deliver excellence to our customers as they are the center of everything that we do. We are incredibly proud to receive this award. In addition, In the second quarter, we won numerous awards with major European, Asian, and North American customers, supporting not only mainstream vehicle segments, but also high-end sports cars and lifestyle off-road capable vehicles. We are now seeing the strength and the comprehensiveness of our product portfolio. Lastly, we continue to build a strong pipeline of future growth opportunities. Today, we are actively quoted in more than $2 billion of new and incremental business, including capacity uplifts on high demand programs. Additionally, we are also working to secure next generation platforms and program extensions. We remain disciplined in pursuing opportunities that align with our strategy and support our long-term profitable growth. Now let's talk about the industry. There are two topics I want to discuss with you specifically. First, on the macro environment. In the second quarter, we experienced some incremental costs related to the elevated energy prices, but we did not see any noteworthy impact on our operations nor on our customer schedules. From a high level, we did not experience significant mix chains, possibly pointing to consumer resiliency, especially here in the U.S. In general, overall production has been stable, and we continue to experience the strength of the North American truck segment. Second, we are actively monitoring the USMCA trade discussions and will react accordingly once discussions are finalized. We understand that the parties are moving into a period of annual review and are currently in active negotiations. This trade relationship is critical to the success of the auto industry and specifically to the North American region. As we have shared in the past, our strategy is to buy and build local in the regions that we serve, and we have benefited from this approach and will continue to do so. Now let's talk about our updated four-year guidance. We have lifted the low end of our guidance range to take into account our performance through the first half of this year. Additionally, we are managing meaningful launches in the second half of the year. The company now targets sales of $10.6 to $10.8 billion, adjusted EBITDA range of approximately $1.36 to $1.425 billion, adjusted free cash flow of approximately 260 to 325 million, and our guidance ranges are underpinned by the following production assumptions. North America production at 15.1 million units, Europe at 16.9 million units, China at 31.6 million units, and global production at approximately 91.1 million units. As we have shared before, our outlook is based on not only industry production, but also on certain programs that we have meaningful content on. We note that GM is transitioning to its next-generation full-size truck program. We expect the model changeover to begin during the second half of this year. The new truck is very exciting and an important product both for GM as well as for us, and we look forward to successfully supporting our largest customer. Before transitioning to Chris, I want to share with the investment community that we will be hosting a Capital Markets Day on November 17th in New York City. We will provide additional details about the event in the coming months, so please mark your calendars. In summary, we had an excellent second quarter. The integration of DALE continues to progress favorably. Our synergy achievement is on track and we're excited about our future and we're built to perform. Now let me turn the call over to our Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, Chris May, for the financial results and details. Thanks.
Thank you, David, and good morning, everyone. I will cover the financial details of our second quarter 2026 results and our updated guidance with you today. I will also refer to the earnings slide deck as part of my prepared comments. In the second quarter of 2026, our sales were $2.96 billion, as compared to 1.54 billion in the second quarter of 2025. Slide seven shows a walk of second quarter 2025 sales to second quarter 2026 sales. Overall, our sales were flat year over year and in line with changes in overall North American production levels. The divestiture of our India commercial vehicle axle business also had a $34 million sales impact in the quarter. This was offset by metal market pass-throughs and FX, which increased sales by approximately $35 million. About a third of this amount was related to FX and was driven by the strengthening of the Brazilian RIAI and the Euro. Dahle contributed $1.45 billion in gross sales for the second quarter. Versus the second quarter of last year, volume mix and other was favorable by $42 million, driven by positive demand for our products that supply BMW and Volvo. partially offset by $31 million of lower sales due to the sale of certain businesses. Now, let's move on to adjusted EBITDA. For the second quarter of 2026, adjusted EBITDA was $389.6 million and adjusted EBITDA margin was 13.2% versus $202 million and 13.2% last year. You can see a year-over-year walk down of adjusted EBITDA on slide eight. In the quarter, Adjusted EBITDA for Legacy Dauch was lower, primarily reflecting lower volume and mix, the divestiture of our Indian commercial vehicle axle business, and approximately $8 million of EBITDA impact stemming from costs that we incurred during the UAW work stoppage at our Three Rivers, Michigan facility. These headwinds were partially offset by approximately $8 million of continued favorable performance, reflecting our focus on improving our legacy metal forming performance and managing overall costs. Donald contributed approximately $180 million of adjusted EBITDA during the quarter, or 12.4% of sales. EBITDA benefited from approximately $9 million of volume mix and other, as well as $9 million of favorable operational performance. These benefits were partially offset by the sale of businesses that I discussed earlier in my sales commentary. In the second quarter, we realized $15 million in synergy benefits as we eliminated duplicative corporate and SG&A costs, and have begun realizing engineering and purchasing efficiencies. As David highlighted, we achieved a $70 million run rate as of today and we expect this to continue to grow. We have a nice market basket of potential savings that we continue to drive to completion as we target the $100 million plus of run rate savings by year end. Simply, we are making great progress on our Synergy objectives. Let's move on to interest and taxes. Net interest expense was $82.6 million in the second quarter of 2026 compared to $37.5 million in the second quarter of 2025. The year-over-year increase in interest expense primarily reflects the issuance of new and assumed debt in connection with the acquisition. The weighted average interest rate of our outstanding long-term debt was approximately 7.1% at the end of the quarter. As for taxes, in the second quarter of 2026, we recorded an income tax expense of $16 million compared to $28 million in the second quarter of 2025. As we described last quarter, due to the acquisition-related activity this year, our tax rate and impacts remain quite involved in 2026. We expect our adjusted effective tax rate to be approximately 25% to 30% this year. As you may recall, this is somewhat elevated due to evaluation allowances and partial interest deduction limitations in the U.S. As for cash taxes, we continue to expect approximately $160 to $170 million this year. Taking all these sales and cost drivers into account, our GAAP net income was $1 million, a slight positive earnings per share in the second quarter of 2026 compared to $39.3 million or 32 cents per share in the second quarter of 2025. Adjusted earnings per share, which excludes the impact of items noted in our earnings press release, was 32 cents per share in the second quarter of 2026 compared to adjusted earnings per share of 34 cents for the second quarter of 2025. Let's now move to cash flow and the balance sheet. Net cash provided by operating activities for the second quarter of 2026 was 107.5 million compared to net cash provided by operating activities of 91.9 million in the second quarter of 2025. Capital expenditures that have proceeds from the sale of property, plant, and equipment in the second quarter of 2026 were $91.7 million. Reflecting the impact of these activities, our adjusted free cash flow was $148.4 million in the second quarter of 2026 as compared to $48.7 million in the second quarter of 2025. From a debt leverage perspective, we ended the quarter with net debt of approximately $4.1 billion and a net leverage ratio of 2.6 times at June 30th, 2026. In the near term, we will continue to focus on reducing our outstanding debt and strengthening our balance sheet. During the second quarter, we voluntarily redeemed $125 million of our six and seven eighth notes due in 2028. Subsequent to the end of the quarter, in August, we voluntarily redeemed all of the remaining six and seven eighth notes due in 2028. This also resulted in a principal payment of $125 million. We now have no major debt maturities until 2029. We ended the quarter with total available liquidity of approximately $2.5 million, consisting of available cash and borrowing capacity on our global credit facilities. Let's talk about our updated financial guidance on slide six. Our updated targets are as follows. For sales, We tightened our full year guidance range to $10.6 to $10.8 billion versus $10.3 to $10.8 billion previously, reflecting our solid performance through the first half of 2026 and our expectations for the remainder of the year. This sales target is based on current global production assumptions and certain assumptions for our key programs. For example, we now anticipate GM's full-size pickup truck and SUV production in the range of 1.35 to 1.4 billion units this year. From an EBITDA perspective, we anticipate a range of $1.36 to $1.425 billion versus $1.3 to $1.425 billion previously. We brought the low end of our range up to reflect the strength of our first half results, operational performance, and continued integration execution. We note included in our adjusted EBITDA is the proportionate share of income from our joint venture in China with Hasco called SDS. We expect our JV share which is already included in adjusted EBITDA guidance to be in the range of 70 to 80 million dollars versus 65 to 75 million dollars previously. We anticipate adjusted free cash flow in the range of 260 to 325 million dollars from 235 to 325 million dollars previously. While we do not provide quarterly guidance, we can offer some perspective on the cadence of the remainder of the year. Relative to the first half, In part due to normal seasonality, North American vehicle production is expected to decline approximately 4% sequentially in the second half, while European production is expected to decline approximately 8%, which is often weighted towards the month of August. In addition, GM is scheduled to begin the phase launch of its next generation full-size pickup trucks in the second half of this year. As is typical with major product transitions, we expect customer production downtime and related volume impacts during the launch period. Currently, we are expecting this temporary impact to our production for this program to begin in September. Our CapEx assumption is unchanged at 4.5% to 5% of sales as we ready the organization for important upcoming launches, including the GM Large Truck Program that I just mentioned. From a share count perspective, please continue to use approximately 245 million shares for the remainder quarters of 2026 for modeling purposes. So in conclusion, the company delivered solid first half results and we have benefited from supplying product to some of the strongest vehicle platforms in the industry, plus the strength of our diversified portfolio and a disciplined operating approach. Our operations delivered performance improvements in the areas of metal forming and in the areas that have received restructuring investments. As we move through the second half of the year, our priorities remain clear. Continue executing our integration plan, Delivering our synergy commitments and strengthening the balance sheet. We believe these efforts will further enhance our financial profile and position us to deliver sustainable value creation. As we progress into 2027, we are excited about the potential momentum we are gaining with new program launches, such as GM's new full-size pickup, synergy growth, and stronger net cash flow performance. So thank you for your time and participation on the call today. I'm going to stop here and turn the call back over to David so we can start the Q&A.
David? Thank you, Chris and David. We have reserved some time to take questions. I would ask that you please limit your questions to no more than two. So at this time, please feel free to proceed with any questions you may have.
Thank you. At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, please press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. and today's first question comes from Tom Narayan with RBC. Please go ahead.
Yeah, thanks for taking the question. Hi David and Chris. Good morning. Hi, on the free cash flow bridge for H-226, I'm seeing 56 million for cash restructuring in H-2 based on my math. I think it was 76 million in H-1. Good to see that coming down. I know we'll be getting more details in November, but any color on what we could expect to see in that in 27 on cash restructuring? I think it was mostly Dow Lay legacy moving plants, things like that. Can we expect that to come down a lot next year?
Tom, this is Chris. I'll take that question. Yeah, I would expect continued restructuring cash costs this year, as you indicated, and that was, of course, at the midpoint of our current guidance range for that. Those investments that we've been making are a continuation of some of the DALE restructuring that has began over the last year or two, as well as some I would call legacy DALE facilities inside of Europe as well. Those will substantially be complete this year as well. We would expect going into 27 that that number will reduce meaningfully from its current run rate levels we have here today. We haven't provided a specific number for 27, but we do expect those to drop significantly.
Got it. Thanks. For my second question, I don't know if this is apples to apples, but I see equity income of $28 million for H1 and the China JV was raised to $75 million for the full year. Just taking that math, it could imply that China JV income is higher in H2 versus H1. I know we're hearing some caution from suppliers this earnings season in China and H2. Maybe I'm just doing the wrong math, but just curious what you're seeing from your China JV implications for H2. Thanks.
Yeah, no, great question. I would give you a couple perspectives on that. Number one, keep in mind also you only have five months of that number included in the first half of the year because they were not included as part of our January results. And they are going through some, I would call, new program launches in the back half of 2026. will have a little bit of an uptick there. But picture-wise, think of it, you have five months versus six months. Yeah. Got it.
Thank you.
Thank you. And our next question today comes from Joe Spack at UBS. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning. It's Alejandro Nguyen for Joe Spack. You're making good progress on the synergies target. Can you maybe help us better understand the bucket to the synergies you've achieved thus far Are most of the synergies to date SG&A, or have you started to achieve some of these synergies on the purchasing and operations front as well? And maybe given how fast you found upside to this year's target, would it be too early for us to expect an update on the potential upside to synergies targets, primarily the operational bucket at the analyst day in November?
So this is David Dauch. The three buckets that we had outlined before were SG&A, procurement, and operations. 30% roughly in the SG&A, 50% in the procurement, 20% in the operations was the base that we were operating from. As I've had in my prepared comments, we're making great progress across the board, but especially in the SG&A and E, that's to be expected. Thank you very much. At the same time, we're obviously looking to see what we can do to potentially increase that in the future, but we're not coming at this point in time.
Got it. Maybe as a follow-up, can you maybe provide an update as to what is embedded in the guide on for higher labor? How many more facilities do you have for UAW negotiations for this year? And if the remainder of those facilities that go up for renegotiation sign similar contracts to what was signed at Three Rivers, like Is that labor inflation embedded in the guide? Any update you can provide there would be helpful. Thank you.
In terms of cost perspective, our best estimates of our current labor arrangements are already embedded in our guide at this point in time.
Okay, great. Thank you. I'll pass it on.
Thank you. And our next question today comes from Alex Perry at Bank of America. Please go ahead.
All right, thanks for taking our questions here and congrats on a strong quarter. I guess just first, you took the guidance up despite your sort of global productions coming down a little bit. You know, what are you seeing that sort of allowed you to do that? And any thoughts on the type of sort of growth versus market you may see next year sort of based on current schedules? Thanks.
Yeah, this is Chris. I'll take that. Clearly, you know, when we reflected upon our guidance update for this call here today, The strength in the second quarter, we benefited from very strong sales. We benefited from good operating performance. Those are one of the main drivers of our support and adjustment for our guidance going forward. Obviously, the second half I talked about in some of my prepared remarks, we do have some reductions in overall production, primarily due to seasonality, but also, of course, for the exciting new GM pickup truck that's going to launch. And that actually correlates a little bit to your second part of your question. We think about next year, what's coming at us. Obviously, We do, many parts of our business move with just overall production, but some of these new critical vehicle programs that are launching, such as GM's full-size truck, generally we see capture share early stages of those new platforms when they're out in the market, so we're certainly very excited in watching that element very closely. But key new programs will be a driver for some of that growth.
Perfect, really helpful. And then I know you had some initial thoughts on sort of USMCA in your prepared remarks, but I'd love to just hear about sort of the impact in the scenario analysis that you guys are thinking about internally in regards to USMCA. Thanks.
Yeah, this is David Ellis. As I said in my prepared remarks, obviously it's something that we're monitoring closely. We understand the status of where things are at this point in time. But until we get clarity, it's really hard to forecast what that impact will be on the overall business. I mean, our policy, as I said, is always to buy and build local. So we try to minimize the impact as much as we can. Clearly, with the USMCA set up, we'd have to rebalance or reshuffle some things between the US and Mexico if things go a different direction. But we've got the flexibility to do that and expanded flexibility, especially taking over some U.S. facilities from Dalai as well as some Mexican facilities from Dalai. So too early and too premature, I guess, really to comment on the cost implications. But at the same time, we will adjust our footprint and be flexible based on the regional footprint that we have in place.
Perfect. That's really helpful. Best of luck going forward. Thanks.
Thank you. And our next question today comes from James Mulholland with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
Great. Thanks. Good morning, guys. Maybe just to piggyback on Alex's question for this year's guide. Nice to see it was raised on the low end, but what would it take realistically for you to reach the high end? Do you need LVP to remain steady where it currently is or T1X retooling to go a bit faster? Maybe RAM heavy duty comes on a bit stronger at the back half. Just some thoughts about the drivers for the rest of the year, how you would get to that high level.
Yeah, this is Chris. I'll take that. Look, there's obviously many moving pieces to the back half of the year or the full year, as you would know. But first and foremost, clearly production is one of the top drivers within some of those ranges, high or low end. So to the extent production is as strong as we expect or stronger for certain platforms that we would supply, that would obviously push you towards the higher end. You know, we do provide ranges, for example, on our JV equity income, our ranges on our synergy achievement. Those clearly, as you're within those ranges, if you're performing at the higher end of those, drive you to the higher end of the range. Some of the things we look at in terms of puts and takes, overall productivity is critical to our success as well. You have a lot of activity in the back half of the year associated with that. But you also have a little bit of, I would say, macro pressure on how you use inflation for things like oil and freight costs. worked towards mitigating some of those impacts. So those are some of the moving pieces we think about when we're inside of that range.
Great. Thank you. And then I guess on the $2 billion of active quoting for new and incremental business, can you give us a sense of whether or not the breakdown of quoting there is for new platforms that you're already on or conquest awards? And then are these products really being quoted more aligned with the legacy Dauch business? or is it more related to the acquired GKN businesses?
This is David. I mean, the good news is it's balanced between the two companies, that being Legacy AM and Legacy Dolly GKN. So that's good news. That's the comprehensive portfolio that we wanted to have in place. So that's critical there. In regards to the makeup, probably 85% of the business we're quoting today now is ICE and hybrid related where several years ago it was flipped the other way with electrification. So it plays right in the sweet spot of our portfolio. So we're pleased with that. At the same time, the $2 billion that we identified is just new and incremental business. It includes a little bit of capacity uplifts on the existing platforms but all the replacement or extension programs are outside of that.
Great. Thank you very much, guys.
Thank you. Thank you. And our next question today comes from Nathan Jones at Stifel. Please go ahead.
Good morning, everyone.
Morning, Nathan.
I guess I'll start with a question on the energy and steel price or steel cost increases that we've seen out there, some related to tariffs, some related to the war. Is that something that impacted the second quarter for you just in terms of EBITDA generation? Maybe it's delayed a little bit getting through inventory. And then can you talk about the customer recoveries that you get from that and the timing on those, please?
Sure. This is Chris. I'll take that. From an energy cost perspective, we had, I would say, a relatively minor impact in the second quarter, maybe the tune of a few million dollars. Right now, I would expect that to continue into the second half of the year based on current environment. You indicated sort of a second part of that question related to steel costs. We typically do not buy steel or those type of commodities on a spot purchase, so we're under long-term contracts. So in many cases, we see no variability in the short term for that. To the extent it's driving commodity costs that go into the components we buy, we generally pass those up to our customers mechanically and contractually. And those get passed up every 30, 60, 90 days depending on the customer. And that would be all various inputs that you would see into the products that we buy. But in terms of energy cost recoveries from the customers, those would be separate discussions, and we do not have automatic pass-throughs for those in most cases. Some in Europe, but not overall, generally not.
Fair enough. The new GM pickup truck, is there a difference in content for you guys on that platform versus the one that it's replacing?
Yeah, it's relatively similar to the one we're replacing. Generally, same features. There's some little small plus and minuses that they have engineering changes on to support the characteristics of the vehicle. But big picture, you should think it's principally the same.
Fair enough. Thanks for taking the questions.
Thank you. And our next question today comes from Mojib Kupa with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on the strong execution. I just want to follow up on the two billion coding activity comments. You know, obviously pretty strong, you know, progress there. I'm curious, you know, any progress you're seeing on just the cross-sell opportunities between LegacyDAO and Delay? I'm just curious how those conversations might be going with customers and should we expect to see any new awards in the near term or wait to hear more in November?
That was one of the things we're very excited about as far as the cross-selling opportunity here. Again, Dolly and GCN had some very strong relationships with obviously the Europeans, but especially the Asians. We obviously are very strong with the Detroit Three here. but both companies had active relations with all the global OEMs. It's just a matter who had a stronger relationship but collectively we're much stronger across the global OEMs. What we're doing is we're having strategic meetings and reviews with those OEMs so that they understand the comprehensiveness of our portfolio and then trying to identify opportunities where we could not only initially right now, but more importantly, mid and long term as they look at their long range product plans going forward. Part of it is just an educational process with the customers, but we are seeing an uptick in regards to the market basket of new and incremental opportunities because of the relationships that the combined business has. And we hope to convert on those as we go forward and we'll announce it appropriately at the right time.
Got it. That's helpful. I just want to follow up on CapEx. Is the first half to second half uplift pretty significant? Less than $200 million to greater than $300 million implied in the second half. Is that all tied to GM? I'm just curious about the second half weighted nature of that or is that just a conservative number out there? Thanks.
Based on the midpoint of our guidance for that range, we are second half weighted in terms of CapEx. We do have program launches. GM, of course, is one of them. Some of that has already been spent, but we'll continue to have some more investments associated with that program, but also getting ready for some launches into next year as well. We look to optimize our spend. We look to optimize timing associated with that to the best we can. We'll continue to push on that, but it is second half weighted at this point in time, driven primarily by launch activity.
Understood. Great. Thanks for all the color and good luck. Thank you.
Thank you. And our next question today comes from Dan Levy at Barclays. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Wanted to first start with a question on metal forming. So best margin you've had in quite some time. Maybe you could just talk to, you know, what happened in metal forming that the margin recovered as much as it did. and then broadly, is the form of metal forming structurally where you need it to be or is there stuff that needs to be done within the portfolio to further clean it up?
Dan, this is Chris. I'll take the first half of that question, talk a little bit about the margin profile and you can see it is actually over the last couple of quarters, Legacy Dauch and then transitioning to the combined company has been on a nice steady cadence of improvement. You really had two things happening here. Number one, with the combination with Dowley brought in of course the powdered metal portion of Dowley into our metal forming operations. They had a slightly higher margin so you are getting some uplift associated with that when we combine that up and of course you pick up an extra month in the second quarter versus the first quarter associated with that. But I think maybe more importantly and twice as exciting certainly as it relates to operational wise we're seeing improvements that we've been discussing over the last Well, quite frankly, three or four quarters in our core metal forming operations continue to take hold. We're not where we need to be yet, but we are seeing continued positive performance also giving uplift in that margin.
Yes, Dan, this is David. Again, thank you for acknowledging the margin improvement in the metal form. We've been working really hard both on the legacy AM as well as taking over the legacy GCAN type business there. As part of your question, you talked about the structure and the optimization of the business. We clearly are looking to drive capacity utilization up to certain levels on a global basis. We've got opportunity there. One of the other big opportunities that we have is insourcing of product, which is a positive because of what they do already on the powder side of business, but what we also do, meaning Legacy AM, on the forging side of the business. And then clearly with all the tariff discussions that are ongoing right now, there's a tremendous inquiry from a lot of global OEMs as well as other tiered for reshoring or localization to the individual continents around the world. So we see tremendous upside opportunity here. At the same time, we'll look to optimize the portfolio appropriately where it makes business sense. but we do that with all of our business and we always maintain optionality on that business going forward.
Okay, thank you. Second is sort of similar question but on DAOLE. So you've now had it for six months and so you've had a deeper look at the business and presumably you've now been through the facilities, have a better sense of the resource usage and allocation. How much more work or what type of work needs to be done on optimization, rationalization, whether it's footprint, whether it's resources, how close is that to the business that you expected versus what further items need to be done that maybe are different from what you originally expected?
Yeah, on the positive side of things, you know, DALI was already actively involved on the auto side of the business with some major restructuring that they had done in the U.S. as well as ongoing in Europe. And you're seeing some of those restructuring costs, you know, coming through in the financial performance. And again, as we said, hopefully we're in the lower end of that, you know, as we go forward here based on the hard work that was done before we acquired it, but the work that we continue to do, you know, to execute those plans. As Chris said, we have some of our own Legacy AEM plans that we're optimizing that's coming through that as well. Overall, their facilities are in decent shape. They need some upgrading to the Legacy AEM standards or Dauch standards. So we'll deal with that appropriately. Clearly, we're managing very closely installed capacity and capability on that capacity and evaluating the capability of the machines and the workforce and the availability of labor in the given areas. Probably the biggest area of improvement that we still see is the implementation of the Dauch operating system. They will benefit greatly from that from a discipline, from a structure standpoint. That will take some time to get implemented over the next couple of years. but also will result in productivity savings and synergy savings as we go forward. But overall, I mean, DALI had and has a very strong innovation background. They have a solid manufacturing background. They just need to be optimized from a capacity utilization, facility utilization, and most importantly, the implementation of the operating system. So we see upside potential there.
That productivity could be incremental to the synergy targets that you've laid out?
Well, right now, I mean, it's kind of a mixed bag because we've got the base downlay productivity commitments, we've got the legacy AM productivity commitments, and we've got synergies on top of it. They all come out of the same productivity bucket. So, but we're hopeful that, you know, we can see some upside in the future. But right now, we're not adjusting our commitment from a synergistic standpoint. Okay, thank you. Yep.
Thank you. And our next question comes from Hammond Corson with BWS. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning.
I just want to ask you if you're seeing this stable production from industry and also from your end, how are you able to manage the business to maximize contribution margin?
Well, first of all, as it relates to contribution margin, one of the best ways to support that One of the first best ways to support that is stable production environment. You may recall the industry over the last maybe two or three years ago that had unstable production schedules, unstable macro, there were semiconductor challenges, et cetera, caused us to be highly inefficient. So once the production environment stabilizes like we've been experiencing this year, for example, it really allows you then to hone in on maximizing throughput. maximizing efficiency, maximizing productivity. And that is single most best environment we could ask for to maximize our contribution margin on the products that we build. Are you able to do that now? Yes, we're doing it right now. I mean, overall, production environment has been relatively stable. Correct. And the combined company has a relatively consistent Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And our next question today comes from Vanessa Jeffries. Jeffries, please go ahead. Hello. Congratulations on the results.
So you've made excellent progress in the synergies, but know you've spoken about the purchasing piece maybe being a little bit more difficult given the backdrop, which we're clearly seeing persist. So is there any risk the purchasing synergies get pushed out a bit more, or do you have a buffer there either from SG&A or how conservative you've been on the targets? And then secondly, know you've done plenty of travel this year, so maybe if you could give us an update on how you're thinking about consolidating the DALYS footprint? and we definitely continue to see European names talk more and more about what they can move to Hungary and obviously DALE made a significant investment there. So maybe any thoughts on what you can consolidate there to improve profitability in Europe?
Okay, this is David. Again, as we said earlier, we're making tremendous progress in regards to synergies and we're already delivering, you know, run rate synergy to 70 million, you know, for owning it for two quarters. We're on track to deliver the 100 million heavily weighted towards the SGA&E. But like I said, purchasing and operations are contributing to that. We fully expected that we would need the three years to achieve all of our purchasing objectives as well as our operational objectives, largely because of the market that we're in today, especially on the direct side, is going to take some time. So I'd see some of the direct being more back-weighted, more 27, 28 type things. but we can offset some of that with stronger performance on some of the indirect freight and logistics and insourcing opportunities as well as some of the SG&A things as I already mentioned to you. From an operational standpoint, yes, GKN had built a plant in Hungary, had moved some work to Hungary. We're evaluating the footprint across Europe on a combined portfolio now. We're looking to optimize, as I said, facility equipment and people utilization. Certainly, hunger will come into play as we evaluate that going forward here. But there is clearly an effort by GKN to move from some of the western countries to some of the eastern countries. We're just assessing what that is while at the same time balancing appropriate labor agreements that we have in place with the unions in those given areas. and it's not just limited to Europe. We're doing that globally around the world. Our job is to make sure we're driving full utilization of our resources and that takes some time to get that done, but we're heavily focused on that right now and will continue to be.
Thank you. Yep. Thank you, Pat. Thank you. And our next question today comes from Itay McKelly with TD Cowan. Please go ahead.
Great. Thanks. Good morning, everyone. I just wanted to go back to the $2 billion of quoting. Two questions there. One, any way to think about potential win rates there? I think in the past we typically talked about kind of 30% for legacy DAO. And then as you kind of look at these opportunities, is that broadly consistent with just how you're thinking about CapEx intensity for the company going forward as these opportunities emerge?
Yeah, I'd say, Ethan, this is David, from a win rate standpoint, you should continue to focus around that 30% level. Obviously, Dolly has a leading market share position with respect to side shafts, so it might be a little bit higher with respect to that side of things, but the balance of things should be right around that 30% side. And just on the CapEx side, we've got 4.5% to 5.5% of sales, and we can manage our business within that Not only today, but also going forward in the future. I don't know, Chris, anything else you might want to add?
Yeah, as it relates to capital intensity, as you know, you know, bigger programs require bigger capital. But generally speaking, you know, we price for those accordingly. We have business case hurdles that we need to meet to do that. And our goal, I think, as we've shared over the last couple of years, is to try to maintain that capex at 5% or even acknowledging some of these new business opportunities. That said, we'll look at each one as it comes our way and do the appropriate financial analytics on those cases and go from there.
Terrific. Maybe a quick kind of housekeeping question. Any kind of high-level sense of just kind of regional revenue performance for the combined company in the quarter? Now that you have a little bit more diversification, just kind of curious how the regional revenue performed.
Yeah, I would say the regional revenue has performed very consistent with what you see as that we support. And primarily, as you know, the bulk of our business comes out of North America, about 60%, and Europe of, call it, 25%. As I mentioned in my prepared remarks, overall, North America was down, I think, a tenth of a percent inside the quarter versus the prior year. And we've seen very similar in terms of our regional performance there. Same with Europe as well.
Got it. Very helpful. Thank you.
Thank you. And our next question today comes from Jake School with BNP. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys.
Can you just give us an idea of what launch costs and what other one-timers look like in the second half? Just so we can bridge to a more normalized run rate to use as a jumping off point for 27. Thank you.
This is Chris. I would say while we do have a meaningful launch, especially with the General Motors light duty pickup truck, we've been in a series of launches here last year, this year, I would expect in the next year. I don't see at this point in time any period that has overweight launch costs versus the other. So while we're incurring them, we'll continue to incur them. We did last year, we'll continue to incur them next year as we're launching a wide variety of programs. You may recall we at least from outsized programs as Legacy Dauch. We launched the RAM about two years ago. That was a big program. You had some heavy-duty truck activity here earlier this year. You have light-duty back half of this year. You have a whole host of other programs now with the Dahle products that we have inside the company, which is great. A lot of activity from that perspective. So I would just think of it at this point in time, relative consistent. I wouldn't spike one quarter out or one year out versus the other at this point in time.
Thanks, Chris. That's helpful. And then you guys are generating strong cash flow this year. It looks like it's a step up pretty meaningfully next year. So how should we think about when you guys will be able to start returning some of that to shareholders? Thanks, guys.
Yeah, we've been very public about our capital allocation approach, especially as it relates to when we made the acquisition announcement earlier this year. Clearly, as you know, we took on some debt to do this acquisition but maintained still a healthy leverage profile. But our objective was to continue to strengthen our balance sheet as we go forward. And our primary use of capital allocation in the near term would be to continue to reduce our debt until we're around two and a half times Leverett or lower. And then once we sort of cross that threshold on a stable basis, we will then look to open up the playbook to, I would say, additional capital allocation across the spectrum, including shareholder friendly activity. Thank you.
Thank you. And our next question today comes from Doug Carson at Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys. Good morning and thanks for taking a question from the credit guy. I appreciate that. I guess two or three topics. So first, great job on taking out the 2028s, if my math serves me right. You took out $250 million in May and August combined and then started in October. So $400 million in debt came out just in the last year or so. which is great. Have you had a chance to circle up with the agencies? I will myself but there's some kind of stale like negative outlook out there at S&P and have the rating agencies kind of absorbed the debt reduction yet?
Yeah of course obviously they watch us very closely as you know we are in contact with them periodically to provide them updates that is One of their top items that they monitor, but also our cash flow performance as well as our ability to generate synergies on a go-forward basis is also critical to, at least through their eyes, how we continue to, I'll say, move up the ratings chain, if you will. So we continue to keep them well up to speed on our position and all the activity we're doing, but meeting that commitment of paying down debt that we said we would do and you see us doing it is a key piece of this.
I'll reinforce that on my side. The Silverado and Sierra are going to hit showrooms I think in December. I think Fort Wayne and Flint have already planned a bunch of retooling already. How do you see the production cadence from GM? Is that on target? I'm looking at IHS production. It's right in front of me right now. It definitely wobbles a little bit at the beginning of 2027. Are you prepared to kind of navigate the changes in production need from GM, like you're already set up for it?
Well, yes, of course, we're absolutely prepared to accommodate their schedules as well as supporting them through their launches. As I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we expect some of that downtime, especially in the late-duty side, to begin impacting us here in September, which we're prepared and it's part of our thought process here from that standpoint. and then they'll go into some rolling launches into future years and we'll of course support them as needed. No issue.
That's a great product. And my final last one is the $2 billion of business you're trying to win. Do you have a sense of how much of that is like EV business versus ICE business? It may not even matter but I'm just kind of curious of the next generation of what you're looking at in that $2 billion. If you could just share that.
Yeah, Doug, this is David. It's really swallowed over the last 18 months from what was 85% electrification to is now 85% ice and hybrid with a smaller level of electrification. So it's right in the core sweet spot of both the Legacy AM and Legacy DAO product portfolio. At the same time, we still continue to see some electrification opportunities, especially outside of North America. But this is right in our core wheelhouse, and we expect to convert.
That's great. Last final comment from me. Thanks for sticking to your guns on getting the balance sheet right and then sharing the wealth with equity when you're stable. And despite paying down $400 million in debt, I mean, your stock's up 18% today, so Both sides could win. I think a strong balance sheet is going to be really helpful in the future. So that's it for me. Thanks.
Thanks for your comments, Doug. Appreciate it.
And our next question is a follow-up from Tom Narayan with RBC.
Please go ahead. Hey, thanks for letting me back in. Yeah, David, I just want to follow up on something you were talking about earlier with the, I guess, the USMCA. I know there's talk about this 50%. U.S. contenting and the stuff you guys could do now with some of the Dowlay assets in the U.S. Just trying to understand the scale of this. Maybe this would never happen, but if the Ram Heavy Duty were to be onshore, let's say, is that something at that scale you could potentially support? Is there a risk that they would insource axles, let's say, there? I mean, What is the scale of the onshoring you guys would do and would this be something that the OEMs would just compensate you guys for?
Yeah, I was going to say right now it would all be speculation on everyone's behalf. Clearly there's a lot of dialogue about increasing the U.S. content from the level that it's at today to what they want it to be in the future. The Trump administration clearly has put a lot of pressure not only on the Detroit 3 but also on the The global OEMs to do more here in the U.S. And you're seeing the sizable level of investment that's being committed here to the U.S. market. Like I said, that bodes well for us in regards to new and incremental business opportunities for us. But to your question about potential moving work, let's say, from Mexico to the U.S., that's going to be on a case-by-case basis with customers. We'll have to discuss that with them on a case-by-case basis. highly unlikely that you'll move something like the Ram, in my opinion, with the level of investment that's been sunk and where things are at. It doesn't mean that they couldn't build a certain capacity in the U.S. if they wanted to, but they've got a sizable investment as does GM and as does other OEMs in Mexico, and those OEMs are going to want to leverage that installed capacity as much as they can. I mean, it's billions of dollars to pick up and move an assembly plant. So We just have to take this, like I said, on a case-by-case basis, run business cases, and then share the impact with the customers, and then they'll have to make a bigger decision as to what they want to do to address the bigger issue between the OEMs and the government and the expectations that way. Got it. Thanks so much.
Thank you. Thanks, Tom, and we thank all of you who have participated on this call and appreciate your interest in Dauch. We certainly look forward to talking with you in the future. Thank you.
Thank you. That does conclude today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.