Flowco Holdings Inc. Class A

Good morning and welcome to FlowCo Holdings Inc. first quarter fiscal 2025 results conference call. Today's call is being recorded and we have allocated one hour for prepared remarks and Q&A. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Andrew Leon Pecker, Vice President, Finance, Corporate Development and Investor Relations at FlowCo. Thank you. You may begin. Good morning, everyone,

and thanks for joining us for FlowCo's first quarter results. Before we begin, we would like to remind you that this conference call may include forward-looking statements. These statements, which are subject to various risks, uncertainties, and assumptions, could cause our actual results to differ materially from these statements. These risks, uncertainties, assumptions are detailed in this morning's press release, as well as our filings with the SEC, which can be found on our website at -inc.com. We undertake no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements or information except as required by law. During our call today, we will also reference certain non-GAAP financial information. We use non-GAAP measures as we believe they more accurately represent the true operational performance and underlying results of our business. The presentation of this non-GAAP financial information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information prepared and presented in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP measures can be found in this morning's press release and in our SEC filings. Joining me on the call today is our President and Chief Executive Officer, Joe Bob Edwards, and our Chief Financial Officer, John Byers. Following our prepared remarks, we'll open the call for your questions. With that, I'll turn the call over to Joe Bob.

Thank you, Andrew, and good morning, everyone. Before discussing our solid first quarter results, I want to take a moment to address the macro environment currently impacting our industry. Over the past several weeks, the United States upstream outlook has come under pressure from evolving tariff policies, OPEC plus commentary suggesting accelerated production, and broader economic uncertainty. Given this backdrop, I want to take a few moments to reiterate what we talked about during our IPO roadshow and on our fourth quarter call several weeks ago, and that is FlowCo's differentiated business model in the context of the broader oil services sector. First and foremost, FlowCo's performance is driven by our customers' non-discretionary OPEC rather than their CAPEX. Our results are tied to absolute levels of oil and gas production in the United States, not the number of active drilling rigs or frac spreads. At current commodity price levels, many of our customers have announced plans to modestly reduce capital spending. However, most have reiterated or only slightly reduced their production expectations. In fact, despite these market concerns, the EIA recently projected that the United States crude oil production as a whole will average an all-time high of 13.4 million barrels per day in 2025, up from the 13.1 million barrels per day average in January of this year. While some have forecasted that domestic production growth may flatten or decline, we remain confident in the long-term strength of U.S. shale and its pivotal role in satisfying global demand. Industry consolidation, the maturity of shale development, and strong operator balance sheets all contribute to what we believe is a more stable and sustainable landscape than in cycles past. FlowCo's strategic focus on production optimization and our integral role in the critical path of our customers' operations uniquely positions us to deliver value, as we work alongside operators to drive greater performance through this dynamic market backdrop. Second, I want to remind everyone that all of the products we sell and rent are manufactured here in the United States. We use predominantly domestically sourced components and raw materials. We operate six manufacturing centers of excellence across Texas, Oklahoma, and Louisiana. We've conducted a thorough review of our supply chain, including a detailed analysis of our vendors' upstream sourcing, and we are confident that the tariff measures currently under consideration by the administration will have minimal impact on our financial results. Moreover, our vertical integration and fully domestic supply chain give us a meaningful competitive advantage, enabling us to scale growth capital investments up or down with greater flexibility than many of our peers. Third, our two fastest growing product lines, Vapor Recovery and High Pressure Gas Lift, continue to gain market share from legacy optimization and production methods such as electrical submersible pumps. This momentum continued through the first quarter, and we anticipate additional customer conversions throughout the remainder of 2025. As over 75% of the industry's ESPs are manufactured in China, we believe our competitive advantage with HPGO will only improve in an environment of heightened tariffs. In parallel, demand for vapor recovery units is becoming more ubiquitous as operators recognize the compelling economics of capturing and commercializing incremental natural gas. VRUs are a critical component of the production infrastructure that enables natural gas to reach high growth end markets such as LNG export facilities and gas-fired power generation, both sectors with strong and durable long-term fundamentals. Fourth, we have a proven culture of innovation and a deeply customer-focused approach to problem-solving, principles that remain constant regardless of commodity price movements. As we noted on our fourth quarter earnings call, we have successfully commercialized and are scaling our Surge Flow product, which is part of our plunder lift solution. Surge Flow is a piece of surface equipment installed as part of the wellhead assembly. It allows for a seamless conversion to plunder lift as a well matures, increasing efficiency and ultimately profitability for our customers. In addition to Surge Flow, our newly developed eGrizzly high pressure gas lift solution allows customers to deploy high pressure gas lift solutions across multiple wells while lowering both emissions and cost per barrel of oil. We are actively identifying new opportunities to apply our technology across the production landscape and most notably, we continue to engage with midstream customers to expand the adoption of our VRU platform, which would further extend our reach and impact across the value chain. Finally, we remain confident in our ability to grow in a flat production environment while delivering -in-class returns on capital employed or ROCE and strong free cash flow generation. In the current market backdrop, we anticipate more muted growth in our product sales businesses as customers defer purchases or become more conservative in their spending, particularly our down-hole conventional gas lift product offering and in the sale of conventional gas lift compression packages. That said, our outlook for our rental businesses remains unchanged. These operations continue to benefit from increasing customer adoption in a contracted revenue model, providing a high degree of visibility. As a result, we are maintaining our investment in these divisions. We've carefully reviewed our previously stated capital expenditure plans and anticipate only minor adjustments, reflecting the strength and resilience of our opportunity set, even amid evolving market conditions. We demonstrated the resiliency of our business in the first quarter, delivering growth in revenue, adjusted EBITDA and net income compared to the fourth quarter. We generated approximately $15 million of free cash flow during the quarter and have reduced our debt balance to $176 million as of last Friday, all while investing $30 million in high-return opportunities that exceeded the ROCE benchmark we shared last quarter. With that, I'll turn it over to John to provide more detail on our first quarter financial and operational performance. After his remarks, I'll close with a few thoughts before we open the line for Q&A. John?

Thanks, Joe, Bob. Before reviewing some of the key financial metrics and results for the first quarter, I'd like to provide a reminder on our historical financial information, given the combination of FlowCo, Logistics and Estes in June of 2024. For clarity, note that any financial information presented prior to the June 20th 2024 business combination, such as the first quarter 2024 financials, reflects only the historical performance for Estes. Financial information in the first quarter of 2025 and the fourth quarter of 2024 reflects the financials for the consolidated entities. Turning now to our financials, first quarter performance was in line with our expectations driven by strong execution across both our production solutions and natural gas technologies business segments. We delivered adjusted net income of $32.8 million on revenue of $192 million. Revenue was up approximately .4% while adjusted EBITDA was up .5% quarter over quarter. Adjusted EBITDA margins were down slightly for reasons I'll elaborate on within each segment discussion. In our production solutions segment, first quarter revenue was $116 million with adjusted segment EBITDA of $50.6 million, an increase of .3% and .3% respectively from the fourth quarter of 2024. Adjusted segment EBITDA margins decreased modestly over the quarter by 44 basis points. The increases in production solutions revenue and adjusted EBITDA were the result of higher operating leverage combined with a progressive shift in revenue mix towards our surface equipment rental business unit from Downhole Solutions. Adjusted segment EBITDA margin was down slightly quarter over quarter due to expenses credited to the production solutions segment in the fourth quarter related to the establishment of our corporate function. Absent these credits, adjusted segment EBITDA margin would have grown. In our natural gas technology segment, first quarter revenue increased .1% to $76.4 million compared with the fourth quarter 2024. The increase in revenue is attributable to delayed Q4 natural gas system sales that shifted into the first quarter. Adjusted segment EBITDA also grew .1% to $28.7 million over the same period while adjusted segment EBITDA margins decreased by 73 basis points due to a revenue mix shift towards natural gas systems from vapor recovery, a trend that we expect to reverse in the coming quarters. Overall, consolidated first quarter adjusted EBITDA was $74.9 million, an increase of .5% from Q4 2024. Adjusted EBITDA margins decreased by approximately 73 basis points due to a change in mix at the segment level and an increase in costs associated with building out our public corporate functions. In the first quarter, the majority of our capital investment of $27.9 million was directed towards expanding our surface equipment and vapor recovery rental fleet given the projected demand and attractive expected returns on capital employed. Our annualized adjusted ROSI for the first quarter was approximately 18%. As a reminder, our adjusted ROSI calculation excludes amortization and intangibles associated with the merger transaction of June 2024 as our legacy businesses were combined rather than acquired. For any future potential inorganic growth, we would not apply the same adjustment. As Joe Bob mentioned, we anticipate only minor changes to the CAPEX program we discussed in the fourth quarter. Our capital allocation decisions remain grounded in our capital return framework and are informed by real-time customer demand. Based on current analysis, we continue to expect incremental returns in excess of 20% on these investments. Looking ahead, we anticipate our capital investment in the rental fleet coupled with potential for our new-found capital investment. We are also expecting a new-found capital investment in our new-found capital investment in the second half of the year. Shifting briefly to corporate costs and reporting, as noted last quarter, we became a federal and state income taxpayer during the first quarter. For the portion of the quarter in which we were subject to corporate taxes, we incurred a blended effective tax rate of approximately 22%. When evaluating our tax expense and earnings per share, it's important to consider that we operated as a privately held limited liability company from January 1 through January 16, 2025 prior to our IPO. Turning to our balance sheet and liquidity, we ended the quarter in a strong financial position. As I mentioned on our Q4 call, we experienced a temporary increase in networking capital related to the integration of the business following the merger, a trend that we expect to continue in the second quarter. Even with the networking capital impacts in the first quarter, we generated $15 million of free cash flow, which we utilized to pay down the balance on our revolving credit facility. As of May 9, 2025, borrowings on the revolving credit facility were $175.6 million. With a borrowing base of $723 million, we had availability under the revolving credit facility of $547.4 million. Finally, reflective of the board's confidence in our resilient business model, combined with our healthy balance sheet and cash generation, Flowcode declared an 8-cent per share dividend on May 2, payable May 28, reinforcing our commitment to return value to our shareholders while investing in our business. In summary, we delivered another solid quarter, achieving our outlook with EBITDA landing within our guidance range. Looking ahead, the growing demand for our solutions, our strategic focus, and broad capabilities supporting production optimization position as well amid a more uncertain market backdrop. While broader industry pressures persist, we remain confident in our ability to grow adjusted EBITDA by low double-digit percentages year over year within this flat production environment. Back to you, Joe Bob. Thanks, John.

We are very proud of our first quarter performance, our first quarter as a public company. And in the face of heightened market uncertainty, we remain committed to solid execution and delivering on our growth objectives. Turning now to our thoughts for the remainder of 2025. As John mentioned, we expect continued increases in EBITDA and further improvement in EBITDA margins throughout the year as our ongoing capital investment in our rental businesses continues to shift revenue mix in that direction. John mentioned year over year EBITDA growth in the low double-digit percentage range, and I'm comfortable with that. However, more immediately, our second quarter guidance will reflect some of the uncertainty and market pressures we've discussed today, particularly around the sale of certain downhole components and surface compression packages. Therefore, we are maintaining the same guidance range as Q1, 74 to 78 million of EBITDA for Q2 2025. We will remain disciplined in our capital deployment while actively identifying opportunities to further optimize our business. I want to extend my sincere thanks to all FloCo employees for their persistence, hard work and unwavering commitment to supporting our customers. We've been through environments like this before, and we know how to execute through volatility. While we anticipate continued market fluctuations, our strategic positioning, differentiated solutions and exceptional team give us confidence in our ability to navigate today's challenges and continue delivering strong returns for our shareholders. So with that, I'll turn it back over to the operator for Q&A.

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. One moment please while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from Aaron Jerem with JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah, Joe, Bob, I wanted to start with your thoughts on the competitive advantage of your largely domestically sourced supply chain in U.S. manufacturing. You highlighted how the bulk of ESPs are manufactured in China, obviously with the turf situation. I wonder if you could maybe elaborate on how this situation could benefit you disproportionately.

Happy to do it, Aaron, and thanks for the question. Hope you're doing well. So yeah, look, the ESP landscape is very mature, right? And the competitors in that market sector have really anchored their production capability in China. High pressure gas lift, as you know, is a process that we pioneered several years ago using gas compression capability as an alternative. The gas compression expertise really exists and is able to be delivered through the unique way that we package the system as well as the reliance on a critical supplier. And that critical supplier, Aerial Compression, is based in the United States. They manufacture all of their compression units in Ohio. We have a very close relationship with them, consider them a critical vendor. They consider us to be a top customer. We visited their facilities last year and have a great dialogue with them on their supply chains. Where do they cast their products? Where are their foundries? And so we're confident in what we've said, which is our domestic supply chain, we think, is a competitive advantage. Once we get the critical components, we bring them into our manufacturing facilities, split between Texas and Oklahoma, package them up, send them out on location, and put them in our rental fleet. So it's a very straightforward supply chain compared to what we compete against. Even before the tariff situation came into play, Arun, we felt that we had a very clear operational advantage against an ESP in certain well conditions. Reminder, like I said last quarter, this is not a tool for every brand new horizontal well. It works in about a third to a half of the new high-volume liquids wells that are brought online. But where it fits, it's a better tool. And I think the increased tariff pressures that are put upon the competing technology are additional tailwind for us.

Great. And then my follow-up, I was wondering if you could maybe help us understand what you've used, the current mix between product sales and rental revenue. And just maybe if you could elaborate on John's comments about low double-digit growth year over year, obviously a lot of uncertainty in the marketplace. But that would imply a little bit of a higher second half EBITDA running range and cost a low $80 million or high $70. If you could talk through what perhaps improves in the second half of the year based on your modeling.

John can give you some numbers, but at a high level, Arun, we continue to invest in our rental business, mainly our high-pressure gas lift offering as well as more vapor recovery units. As you know, those come in at a higher margin than the product sales businesses that we offer to the market. So from a business mix standpoint, more rentals as a percentage of total will result in a higher EBITDA margin. I think we're comfortable telegraphing a nice growth trajectory in a relatively flat market given that incremental investment. And I don't think you're far off in terms of what you're thinking on a quarterly basis.

Yeah, Joe, Bob, I agree. I think with the more moderate outlook in our downhill components and natural gas systems business units within the two segments, we expect the trend that we've seen between rental and sales to kind of accelerate. So you go back a couple of years, sales to rentals was probably 60-40. We've achieved about kind of a 50-50 split now. We expect that to, based on our continued investment in the fleet, we expect that to move up into the kind of low to mid-50s by year end.

Great. That's a lot of help. Thanks, Spike.

Our next question comes from Derek with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, good morning. Just wanted to kind of revisit your HPGL adoption outlook. You talked about 75% of ESPs being manufactured in China. That might help the conversations with EMPs a little bit. But have you seen any incremental wins with certain customers? Or should we still think about it as being characterized as just increasing your wallet share with your current customers? Maybe just some updated thoughts just around the adoption of HPGL so far.

Hey, Derek. Yeah, happy to lean into that a little bit. There's definitely increased market chatter around high-pressure gas lift. I think it's a combination of our IPO and the volume of conversations that we've had with industry participants as well as with the investor base about the technique. And the tariffs have only heightened that market chatter. We've had a few specific customer conversations that are encouraging. Let's call it broader market adoption or a broader program adoption across acreage that's being developed compared to previously where they were hedging their bets a bit or still on a slower adoption curve, a wait and see attitude. I think more folks are leaning into it. Rising GORs help, obviously. And longer laterals, which produce higher IPs, help. So there are a lot of structural reasons, even before you start talking about tariffs, that are helping with increased adoption. I think any sort of tariff noise in the market, and we're late in the reporting cycle, but several have already indicated that they ordered a lot of equipment ahead of a potential tariff impact. Others are trying to actively diversify away from China, their supply chains. That's just going to create more disruption, I think, in the market as they try to respond to just an uncertain environment. So we're going to continue to lean into it and think that the balance of 2025 should produce some incremental customer lens.

I know that's helpful. Maybe just something on shareholder returns. Great to see the 8-cent dividend that you guys recently announced. Maybe just taking a step back, how do you foresee growing your shareholder returns, whether it's a steady dividend growth, layer in a buyback at some point, maybe just your overall thoughts as you look out over the next few years, how you see shareholder returns progress through the cycle?

Great question. We had an extensive discussion about this at our most recent board meeting, and it follows up, Derek, as you know, the framework that we debated and outlined during our IPO. We are a returns-driven management team. The culture of returns really is embedded within the entire organization. We are incentivized to produce returns for shareholders. Our North Star is our ROCIE roadmap. John quoted an 18% ROCIE for Q1. That's slightly below our 20% ROCIE that we raised money around at our IPO. We're going to continue to make decisions that impact returns on capital employed. So that's the shareholder return that we are producing with the asset base that we have. We think if we can grow and continue to make investments in the business that are accretive to that level, we think that will produce a premium valuation and a positive outcome for shareholders. In terms of return of capital to shareholders, this dividend is a good first step. Obviously, we think a share buyback could make sense in the future. With a very limited float, we want to be careful with how much we lean into, reducing that public float. But it's certainly in the tool bag and we will continue to think about it going forward. We think this nice first dividend is a commitment to shareholders that we made on the roadshow that we are following through with. We certainly think it's defensible through cycles. We believe our financial position today, our liquidity today, can support it. We're happy to get it out there and hope that the market appreciates it.

Thanks, Jeb. I appreciate the comments. I'll turn it back.

Our next question comes from Philip Jungworth with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks. Good morning, guys. You mentioned a higher rental versus product mix in the second half. Just as we think about the margin side for rentals, what are the main pushes and pulls here as we think about how that'll evolve over the course of the year?

I think the driver is going to be pricing power. We focus on that. We're pushing that as much as we can, but there's obviously limits with which we can do it. As we look at our forecast, we haven't really modeled a significant difference in margins relative to where we are in the rental business. Right in that 70% range is what we're thinking about.

Great. One of the benefits of HPGL is mechanical availability. Just with producers closer to maintenance production, does reliability become a greater focus in discussions? Also, just how much more important is the high upfront cost for ESPs as producers look to manage cash flow?

Yeah, Philip, those are two key selling points. When commodity price fluctuations happen like they have, when capex budgets get trimmed as they are, there's a higher level of focus from our customer base on their existing production. And oil production is the mother's milk of an oil company. So they've got production forecasts and profit targets that they have to meet. And so the mechanical availability that we offer relative to the competing technique is not lost on them. As you point out correctly, the high upfront capital cost as well as the ongoing maintenance cost of pump changeouts that happen over time as well as mature. So we feel like we're in a good spot with HPGL, and that's, as I mentioned earlier, leading to increased customer adoption as well as more programmatic rollout of the technique across a broader series of locations.

Great. Thanks, guys. Thanks.

As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from Lloyd Rain with Jeffries. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks for boring, fellas. Thank you for all the comments. Can you just comment on VRU growth? And I know you talked a little bit about LNG, but just how that trajectory can be different than high pressure gas listing. Thanks.

Thanks, Lloyd. Good to hear from you. High pressure gas, or excuse me, vapor recovery adoption is increasing. Let's talk about why that was leading up to our IPO and what has changed in the last, say, six months. This is a great way for the deployment of vapor recovery systems are a great way for operators to eliminate fugitive methane emissions. Obviously, that has an environmental benefit. But what it also does is it allows operators to capture high BTU vapors. These are not just methane molecules, but also include natural gas liquids that tend to trade at a higher price. The growth in VRU up through today has largely been economics driven around that methane capture. Now, we've lived through the last couple of years a period of depressed natural gas prices. Sometimes in the field, gas prices have approached zero. We have grown VRU adoption through that natural gas backdrop. What has changed in the last, call it six to 12 months, is the dramatically improved outlook for natural gas demand in the United States, whether it's LNG exports or it's natural gas demand from gas-fired power generation. We think the outlook for VRU today and more broadly natural gas infrastructure today is as bright as it's been in quite some time. We're having incremental discussions with customers not just upstream, our traditional customer base, but in the midstream around VRU adoption as a way to drive incremental profitability. We think any new build out of gas infrastructure or industrial facilities that utilize gas to either produce power or to export or to make something in the petrochemical process is just more tailwind for VRU.

That's great. Thank you. Just to follow up on some of your comments on the gas lift, can you just talk about Grizzly and maybe a little bit of third flow and a little bit more details there and how those are being received?

Our E-Grizzly product line is an electric high pressure gas lift system specifically configured to inject gas at a high pressure into multiple well bores at the same time. That differs from our legacy offering, which is known as an E-Wolf. Now the E in each of those products denotes the fact that it is electric drive compression. We have those same products, same names, just without the E that are powered by natural gas fired gas compression. As operators electrify their production infrastructure and as they try to reduce their cost per BOE, one compressor to drive two wells obviously is economies of scale instead of having one high pressure gas lift unit for one well bore. Certain operators are leaning into that. It really depends on how they're configuring their production infrastructure, their pads. It's not for every customer. You have to really get ahead of the well pad design for this to make sense and you have to have power to the well pad for this to be economic. But it is something that we're noticing increased adoption of. Completely separately on the surge flow side, as I said in my prepared remarks, surge flow itself is a piece of well head infrastructure that is installed with the broader well head assembly. It allows for the well head to be installed at the initial completion of the well. A first type of production method to be utilized and then over time it allows for a more seamless transition to plunder lift without incremental maintenance expenditure in the field compared to the way that plunder lift changeover or rod lift changeover is done today. It's an efficiency offering to our customers and once our specific bit of hardware is demonstrated to customers, it's like a light bulb goes off. They completely understand why this is a better way of configuring this part of a well head assembly and it's just driving a conversation around plunder lift more broadly. We're seeing some very nice uptake, some orders at scale from some very large operators. We look forward to sharing more about that as 2025 progresses.

Great. Thank you all.

Our next question comes from David Smith with Pickering Energy Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, good morning and thank you for taking my questions. Morning. Regarding the relatively unchanged growth capex outlook for this year, I wanted to ask if the expected mix between the segments for capex is also relatively unchanged?

That's correct. Joe Bob referenced some minor tweaks but we're generally looking at, if you take the two segments, it's kind of a 60-40 split in revenue. We're generally looking at the same allocation, maybe plus or minus 5% relative to where we were beginning of the year.

Okay, appreciate that. Is it fair to think the growth capex outlook is heavily supported by client conversations? If so, can you speak to whether those clients are keeping their activity plans relatively unchanged, whether you're seeing grow and share with that client base or perhaps this is meeting new demand with new clients?

Yeah, David, it's a little bit of all the above. Again, with the production focus, the conversations that we're having with clients are not nearly as stressful as you would expect those that are more drilling or completions oriented. So you really kind of have to look through to each of our specific product lines. But within VRU and within high pressure gas lift, the two fastest growing product lines that we have, conversations with customers I would say are consistent with what we saw last quarter, if anything, a little bit better. And it has to do with what we talked about, the tariff noise that is in the market around the competing technique for HPGL, as well as just the incremental natural gas fundamentals or more positive natural gas fundamentals that are so I would hate to characterize things as overly rosy with our customers in this kind of current market backdrop, but things feel pretty good.

Really appreciate the color. I'll turn it back.

As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. It appears that there are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Joe Bob Edwards for closing comments.

Well, thank you everyone for tuning in and reach out if you have any questions. Look forward to seeing you next quarter. Thank you.

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