National Bank Holdings Corporation

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the National Bank Holdings Corporation 2025 Fourth Quarter Earnings Call. My name is Margo, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I will now turn the call over to Emily Gooden, Chief Accounting Officer and Director of Investor Relations.

Thank you, Margo, and good morning. We will begin today's call with prepared remarks followed by a question-and-answer session. I would like to remind you that this conference call will contain forward-looking statements, including but not limited to statements regarding the company's strategy, loans, deposits, capital, net interest income, non-interest income, margins, allowance taxes, and non-interest expense. Actual results could differ materially from those discussed today. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors which are disclosed in more detail in the company's most recent filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. These statements speak only as of the date of this call, and National Bank Holdings Corporation undertakes no obligation to update or revise these statements. In addition, the call today will reference certain non-GAAP measures, which National Bank Holdings Corporation believes provides useful information for investors. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the GAAP measures are provided in the news release posted on the investor relations section of www.nationalbankholdings.com. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over and introduce National Bank Holdings Corporation's Chairman and CEO, Mr. Tim Blaney.

Well, thank you, Emily. Good morning, and thank you for joining us as we discuss National Bank Holdings' second quarter 2026 financial performance. I'm joined by our president, Aldis Birkans, our chief financial officer, Nicole Van Denabeele, and John Steinmetz, our executive vice chair and executive managing director of strategic initiatives. Our team delivered solid second quarter results with record loan production and 10% year-to-date loan growth. Strong credit metrics reflect our intense focus on prudent growth. Our commitment to developing full banking relationships with our clients continues to translate into operating with a low-cost and diversified deposit franchise. Expenses continue to be well managed, and we expect to meet or exceed savings resulting from the VISTA integrations. Before I turn the call over to Nicole, I want to share how pleased I am with the revenue lift we're seeing from the VISTA acquisition. Our bankers are excelling at delivering quality results for our shareholders. I also want to recognize our countless teammates that have positioned our company to seamlessly integrate the VISTA acquisition with all conversions targeted to be complete by quarter end. On that note, I'll turn the call over to Nicole. Nicole?

Thank you, Tim, and good morning. This morning, I'll walk through a second quarter that demonstrated strong operating momentum across the bank, and I'll provide our outlook for the second half of the year. As a reminder, our guidance does not include any future interest rate policy changes by the Fed. For the second quarter, on an adjusted basis, we reported net income of $35.3 million dollars or 78 cents of earnings per diluted share. Annualized, this is 33% higher than the prior quarter. The second quarter's adjusted return on average tangible assets increased six basis points to 1.3% and the adjusted return on average tangible equity increased 92 basis points to 12.7%. Year-to-date, we grew our fully taxable equivalent pre-provision net revenue by 23% over the same period last year, generated a record level of loan production, and maintained a top quartile net interest margin. Turning to the balance sheet, client activity was strong during the quarter, and our pipelines continue to build as we move into the back half of the year. Our teams generated record quarterly loan originations of $927 million, Driving year-to-date annualized loan growth of 10%. With that momentum carrying into the third quarter, we expect full-year loan portfolio growth of 10%. Fully taxable equivalent net interest income for the quarter totaled $111.5 million, an increase of 25% compared to the second quarter of last year. Net interest margin during the second quarter was a strong 3.94% and remains in the top quartile of our peers. For the remainder of the year, we expect a net interest margin near 4%. We demonstrated success in gaining full client relationships, which drove average deposit balance growth of 2.3% annualized. Deposit costs improved one basis point during the quarter, and remained a low 1.93% with a total cost of funds of 2.01%. The loan-to-deposit ratio ended the quarter at 94.1%. Turning to asset quality, credit quality remained strong. We recorded $1.5 million of provision expense primarily to support the loan growth during the quarter. Second quarter's net charge-offs were 27 basis points annualized. Non-performing assets remained a low 35 basis points and the allowance coverage ratio totaled 1.13%. Our allowance coverage on non-performing loans improved from two times to three times of coverage over the past year, underscoring our positive credit quality trends. Additionally, we hold $19.6 million of marks against our acquired loan portfolio which provides an additional 20 basis points of loan loss coverage if applied across the entire loan book. The income was another area of positive momentum this quarter, increasing 40% annualized over the linked quarter. Non-interest income totaled $19.8 million, and Aldis will provide more detail on that shortly. We expect full-year fee income to be within our previously guided range of $75 to $80 million. Non-interest expense totaled $95 million for the quarter, including $11.2 million of acquisition and restructuring expenses. Excluding these one-time items, non-interest expense was $83.7 million up from the linked quarter due to merit increases and one additional day in the second quarter. As expected, the majority of expense synergies from the VISTA acquisition will come online following system integration in the third quarter. As previously guided, we continue to project total non-interest expense for the full year to be in the range of $320 to $330 million. Our capital levels remain well in excess of well-capitalized regulatory thresholds. Common Equity Tier 1 Ratio ended the quarter at 12.3% and our total capital ratio was 15.4%. Tangible book value per share grew to $26.23 with earnings more than covering the quarterly dividend and $11 million of share repurchases during the quarter. Importantly, we believe we are on track to deliver earnings in excess of $1 per share in the fourth quarter of 2026. With that, I will turn the call over to Aldis.

All right. Well, thank you, Nicole, and good morning. I'll start with a highlight of the quarter, loan production. As Nicole mentioned, we funded a record $927 million during the quarter. To put that in perspective, year-to-day production now stands at $1.7 billion. It already exceeds our total fundings for all of 2025. That's a meaningful marker of how much the growth engine has accelerated. and includes us nicely on track to hit our full year and present long growth guidance. What I'm most encouraged by is how broad-based this production was. It was not a one team or one region story. We saw contributions across most asset classes and most of our geographies. That granularity matters as the whole franchise is pulling in the same direction. Several of our teams are truly just gaining momentum and we are heading into the back half of the year with healthier It's also worth highlighting that our line utilizations continue to move up towards historical averages as our clients are becoming increasingly comfortable with the economic outlook. Turning to credit, we continue to see overall credit trends improve, with both classified and criticized loans being down on a link quarter and on a year-over-year basis. Our past due loans also are down. Both NPAs and NPLs remain at low levels. Simply put, credit remains in a very good shape. The income is another strong point. Non-interest income grew 10% on linked quarter basis or 40% annualized. The fee income increase was driven by strong growth in service charges, hard income, and trading management activity. In addition, we continued to benefit from a more diversified fee base with solid contributions from trust-involved, hammered, and swap income, all adding to the robust growth. Finally, turning to the operational side of the Vista Bank Acquisition integration, for your domain firmly on plan. And John will give us more perspective on that. John.

Thank you, Aldis, and good morning, everyone. When we spoke last quarter, the story was about bringing two strong, seasoned companies together. This quarter, the story is about what we are accomplishing now, that we are one team. Much of the heavy integration work that defined our first few months together is now behind us, and our core conversion is on track to occur in the third quarter. That means our teams are now spending more time doing what they love, taking care of our clients in originating record loan production. The people-first culture we described at close is no longer something we are building towards. It's simply how we operate. The culture has become the pinnacle of our recruiting success. Since January 7th, when the merger closed, we've added numerous seasoned banking professionals throughout our entire franchise. Bankers are developing new client relationships, broadening the reach, and increasing market share within the communities that we have the privilege to serve. I have always said and truly believe that best bankers bank the best clients, and we are watching that unfold. Looking to the back half of the year, our focus shifts from integrating to compounding shareholder value. Introducing clients to products and services such as treasury management, trust and wealth, residential mortgage, and other sophisticated products leverages the strength of National Bank Holdings Corporation. Each of these lets us go deeper with the clients, and that is where durable, profitable, and long-term growth comes from. We will keep running this company for the long run, disciplined on credit, thoughtful on capital, and relentless on service. In conclusion, I would like to take a moment to thank our most important asset, our people. You, they, are the reason I am confident about the ability to exceed our clients' and shareholders' expectations. We thank you for your trust as the powerful combination we thought was possible becomes a reality, and as demonstrated by the quarter's performance, And that is why I know the best is yet to come. With that, Tim, I'll turn it back to you.

Thank you, John. Well, as you've heard, we're experiencing strong momentum across our core banking franchise. We expect this momentum to build in our favor. And as Nicole shared, we believe we're on track to realize $1 plus of EPS in the fourth quarter of this year. On other fronts, while two unified revenue growth has been slow in coming, investments in the business remain well managed and partnership potential is very solid. We continue to grow our tangible capital and ended the quarter with a common equity tier one ratio of 12.3%. Our balance sheet supports meaningful optionality. We will continue to invest in talent. We will opportunistically buy back shares and will we consider M&A once we complete the VISTA integration? Make no mistake, we are in great markets and our team is well positioned to deliver meaningful value for our shareholders. And on that note, let's open up this call for questions.

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. And again, that is star one to ask a question. We'll take our first question from Jeff Rulis with DA Davidson. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Good morning. I wanted to get into the loan growth. The funding side is pretty impressive. Just wanted to ask about the net level and what maybe is... You know, kind of a headwind to that is we're assuming some payoffs or just if you could describe kind of the undertow of why the net remains at maybe 10%, you know, admittedly strong fundings. Thanks.

Yeah, Jeff, this is Aldis. I'll take that. I just had the The loan growth or the loan originations were extremely strong. We're very proud of that, what teams accomplished this quarter. What a little bit of headwind that came through was a little higher, a five-loan turn, so to say. Again, that's not unusual if you look at the first quarter. It was a little bit lower. So on average, year-to-date basis, it actually is where we were expecting. And therefore, year-to-date loan growth is 10% where we had been guiding. So I do think that that's going to even out here going in the second half of the year. But again, $1.7 billion of loan production for the first half of the year is very impressive. We're very happy with that.

Jeff, I would add the reality is when you see some of the longer-term debt that's coming in for renewal, you are seeing competition against those higher-yielding loans. We have discipline around total client profitability and there's a point where we are willing to let business go elsewhere if we don't believe it's going to achieve our desired levels of profitability. That clearly also, that dynamic has put a little interim pressure on on the margin. But on the whole, we still have confidence when we look at where margin is going to hold for the year. Given what we understand about what's renewing in our long portfolio and what that looks like the remainder of the year, we still feel very confident about a very strong margin holding in.

Yeah, it sounds like, well, I guess just to understand that fully, it sounds like maybe some VISTA attrition is what is against some of the record fundings. Am I hearing that right?

Well, it's a combination of it. So the VISTA was a contributor, but again, if I look at the first half a year for the first six months, it's exactly where we expect it to be. but I think it's not to be lost the point that Tim is making that we did see and that kind of goes down back to kind of the discussion on the loan yields. If you see the loan yields came in a little bit, that is due to the higher loans churning and that's both on NBH and this aside.

But I want to be clear. Our bankers have done a phenomenal job of retaining clients through the VISTA acquisition. So that isn't some unique driver of this. I'm going to bring you back to what I said before where you see an attrition of business I would say frankly it's more in this current environment price sensitivity than anything else and you know we've had discipline through the years around relationship pricing we don't look at just the credit we can be more flexible where we have for example robust depository treasury management relationships. But what we're not going to do is pursue business that's either too high in risk or not generating adequate profitability. So I can't say enough about the job our bankers have done to retain relationships through this integration and not only that, but focus on growing beyond it.

Thanks. If I could just hop over to the expense side. I've got that full year guide. I guess a normalized quarterly expense run rate. Maybe in the second half, it sounds like the conversion and maybe even a better question is the Q4 run rate of where you exit the year as we try to pull out those merger expenses and see where you land.

Yes, good morning, Jeff. This is Nicole. I'll be happy to give some color there. So I will say Q2's expenses came in in line with our expectations. As I mentioned in Q1, we have made some investments in new banker talent. Q2, we also have merit increases coming online one additional day into the quarter. We are on track to meet our full year expense guide of $320 to $330 million. We will, to your point, we will see the benefit of the expense synergies from the acquisition. Those will come fully online in the fourth quarter. That will be our first kind of clean quarter. And I do think it is reasonable to expect in the fourth quarter that expenses would be below $80 million.

Got it. That's helpful. Maybe while I have it, the margin average in June, do you have that figure?

Yes, I do. I do. And I'll be happy just to give you more color on margin broadly. I'll start by saying, you know, we're proud of maintaining a top quartile margin. June's margin, we exited the month with a June month end margin of right up 4%. and that gives us confidence guiding forward to a near 4% margin. Breaking down Q2's margin in a little bit in some of its pieces, I will say positives for Q2 margin are cost of deposits improved one basis point. We did have a three basis point increase in our cost of funds and that was entirely driven by the sub-debt issuance that we did at the end of the first quarter. So that subject issuance came fully online in the second quarter. If you strip out that impact, Q2's cost of funds was flat with the first quarter, which we are proud of given the funding pressures in the industry that we were able to hold our cost of funds flat. Additionally, our returning asset balances increased 9% over the first quarter, which Average loan balances increased 15% over the first quarter. Where we did experience margin compression was in our loan yields for the second quarter, which Tim and Aldis have both mentioned. A couple of impacts there. So we are impacted by some churn of loans on the existing book where you have loans in the high sixes. Renewing, we did have new loan origination yields for Q2 right about 6.4, 6.5%. At those levels, new loan originations are still accretive to margin. So while those loan yields came in a little bit, we are maintaining our spread and still picking up margin accretion from new loan activities. and then the second quarter loan yields were also impacted by some volatility in purchase accounting accretion volume and that will vary quarter to quarter give or take a few basis points.

Thanks Nicole, appreciate it.

And next we'll go to Kelly Amato with KBW, please go ahead.

Thanks. Good morning. Thanks for the question. I appreciate the – I think you reiterated both your fee and expense guidance. Just wondering if you could provide an update on the contribution of to Unify. I think previously you said that was about $22 million of expenses and $2 to $4 million in the fee run rate. Is that still embedded in that outlook? And any updated thoughts on kind of where – Thank you, Kelly.

but conversions are not dialed in yet and that's where you get the revenue and as a practical matter what we're seeing is applications that are not still hitting our credit risk profile and we're not going to compromise on that. It speaks to our need to do more targeted marketing to think more about attracting the right kind of applications because at this point we're seeing dramatic increase in applications coming in from from pure startup businesses, which, you know, as a commercial bank, we're not equipped to bank. And frankly, the other is just straight-up credit quality issues. And so it speaks to the need, again, to continue to refine our application target marketing, and we're doing just that. There is some positive news. While the dollars are small, we're seeing deposit growth in the business. The beauty of that is these are granular small business deposit accounts. We love the granularity. It's just building on a very small base, and we've got to see that grow. So, Nicole, if you want to speak to how we're adjusting and thinking about filling gaps driven by – we didn't attribute a lot of revenue to Unify this year. Our intention is to fill those gaps, and you may want to speak to how we're going to address that.

Yeah. So, Kelly, your numbers are right on with what we had previously guided. So, $2 million to $4 million of revenue from Unify. We do feel confident in our overall fee income guide, regardless of where the two unified revenue comes in. We're seeing some nice lift in other areas of our diversified fee revenue. And then on the expense side, your number is accurate, right? 20 to 22 million of two unified expenses, which is flat to last year. even with bringing on a full year of amortization of the capitalized asset. I will say from a two unified expense standpoint, expenses are well managed and we are on track to meet that guide.

Okay. All right. Got it. That's helpful. Then I'd like to pivot just overall to funding. I think loan growth has been super strong at MBH and definitely a highlight. It looks like deposit balances, at least on a spot basis, were down slightly and you utilized some greater amount of borrowings. Just wondering how you guys are thinking about the loan-to-deposit ratio and the funding of that kind of 10% loan growth going forward.

Yeah, Gailie, this is Aldis. I'll take that. In terms of, again, we usually look at the average deposit balances because that kind of measures the overall balance Thank you for joining us. Our bankers know that it is full balance sheet approach to how we go to market and we expect to be able to support our growth with more deposits.

Yeah, I would add we also historically have gone through cycles where when you see a slight step up in more commercial real estate production, you tend to see less deposit growth. That's why we are hyper-focused over time on growing commercial banking relationships in the C&I space. That's where you really pick up the full treasury management depository relationships that have made this company so strong over the years. And we certainly make no apologies for the granularity and the breadth of our deposit base. and I think the fact that we actually saw a cost on that deposit book come down a basis point speaks to the strength of those relationship deposits and make no mistake if we had wanted to grow deposits more and play the pricing game we could have certainly done that.

Got it. That's helpful. Maybe last piece for Nicole probably just to understand the dynamics of the margin. It seems like some of the variance between Q2 and Q1 with just some higher loan fees into Q1 maybe accretion. Do you have those numbers handy just so we can get a better sense of underlying trends? Because clearly at a 394 margin, still one of the better ones in the industry. But I think some of us are looking for flattish because of those dynamics. Thanks.

Yeah, Kelly, thanks for the question. I would say, you know, as I mentioned, we will continue to see some volatility just related to the pattern of how that market creation comes in, just driven by payoffs, paydowns, and the volume of those and the timing that they hit. I wouldn't expect that to be more than a couple of basis points of margin volatility over time. and I think that's the piece that you're seeing from Q1 to Q2.

Got it. Thank you. I'll step back.

Thank you, Kelly.

Thank you. And we'll next go to Matthew Clark with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, everyone.

Good morning.

Nicole, just along those lines of that last question, can you just give us the appreciation That was part of the interest income this quarter. I think it was $1.4 million last quarter.

Yeah, it was $1.4 million last quarter, and it was about $1 million this quarter.

Okay.

I guess I should clarify, related to the VISTA acquisition, we do still have some accretion impacts from prior acquisitions that can drive some volatility over time as well.

Okay. And then on loan yields, you know, I understand why they were down this quarter, but what's your outlook on loan yields going forward?

Yeah, we think that loan yields have roughly normalized. So we believe that they've settled in where they're going to be. Like I mentioned, new loan origination yields in Q2 right about 6.4%, 6.5%, and we feel like that that's hit a normalized level.

I think it's such an important question because we do spend a lot of time looking at our book, Remaining Renewals Throughout the Year, and that's where you become somewhat vulnerable, and we feel like at this point, are going to be well managed and that's what gives us the confidence that we believe we can hold our position here through the remainder of the year.

Okay. And then just on the overall margin, it sounds like there was some nice lift at the end of the quarter because what drove that margin up to 4% at the end of the quarter relative to the 2Q average?

Yeah, no, it's As Nicole mentioned, that around 4% June margin was what we would call actually clean. So the volatility of that mock impact that we talked about was realized earlier in the quarter, previous month, so to say. So June actually felt very clean. That's why we were very comfortable sharing it.

Okay. But it's not like, you know, deposit costs are down further in June. I don't know if you have the spot rate at the end of June.

They're really not. I mean, I think all of us answered the question. It was really about where we absorbed that impact, and it was early in the quarter.

Okay. Got it. Sounds good. And then on the buyback, do you have a weighted average price that you bought back shares this quarter?

No, we've shared that halfway. Okay.

We typically don't disclose that, but again, as Tim mentioned, we're opportunistic as the market moves around, and I think it's reasonable to say that it was done at a price that's lower than where we traded today or yesterday.

Okay, and then just on Criticize, it sounds like Criticize was down. Can you give us the dollars or percentages from 1Q to 2Q?

Criticize was just at 3%. By the way, that was the lowest level criticized for a company since 2022.

And how that compares to 1Q? Sorry, I don't have it at my fingertips.

He was down from about 10 and 11 basis points.

Got it. Okay. Sounds good. And I guess the last one for me, just on the income from partnerships and other fees, I think they were up a million one this quarter. If you could provide maybe what the contribution in dollars was this quarter versus last, and what do you view as kind of a normalized level, if you were to kind of smooth it out, just so we can help forecast it.

That one is a tough one, because as you know, those can be lumpy and infrequent, so to say. So I don't think we have a good guidance here. I do want to reiterate, even if you back that out, the trust involved grew 10% on the link quarter basis, 30% on year-over-year. Canberra fees are up near 10% growth on the link quarter basis, 40% year-over-year. They did have nice swap fee income. Again, that could be lumpy, but they did have half a million in derivatives type of swap product sold income. So there is more than just the... They come from partnerships. That one is lumpy, as you know, and we don't plan on it. So to be clear, in our guidance and plan, we don't plan on it because, again, it's so hard to estimate.

Understood. Thanks again.

Thank you. And we'll return to Kelly Motto of KBW. Please go ahead.

Okay, thanks for having me jump back. I think importantly you reiterated that dollar run rate in 4Q26. Just wanted to confirm that that didn't include the impact of any strategic optimization such as a two-unified sale.

It does not include anything related to a two-unified sale to get to the one dollar. Got it. Thank you.

will also return to Jeff Rulis with DA Davidson. Please go ahead.

Yeah, thanks. Maybe to that end, the partnership potential to share some of the costs, maybe any update, Tim, on that progress or maybe no progress? Yes.

Jeff, the conversations and the work is active. The volatility in the FinTech market is high, and that makes it difficult to give any kind of a defined timeline for getting something like that completed. And I'm not going to mislead anyone. The word volatility has come up quite a bit of We think the commercial banking market is volatile. It's been some time in this fintech market. It's very volatile right now.

Okay. Thanks. And one other question I had on the kind of the net charge off levels, just trying to get a sense. It sounds like you feel pretty comfortable on the credit side, but still somewhat elevated. That continues to come down. And it sounds like the provision this quarter was largely for growth. Any update on maybe the outlook of future net charge-off levels and or provisioning range, either specific or just broad trends would be helpful.

I mean, there's probably no better indication of where we think charge us are going than to look at criticized classified levels and the fact that they've come down to historical levels. I think that's probably the best indication we can give. Keep in mind, you know, we our not unlike any other financial institution, we put the portfolio through an extensive testing process to come up with allowance, provision, and The quantitative and qualitative metrics lead us to where we're at today. So I guess the short of it is we feel quite good, very good about the portfolio and where it stands. And we don't see, for example, a pig in the python. We don't see issues that are haunting us that could be issues a quarter, two quarters, three quarters from now.

And Tim, if I could, I'd like to just say, you know, the fact that we've been able to drive record loan production two quarters in a row and bring the two organizations together and experience the type of $927 million in growth is simply remarkable. And classified assets down 47% year over year I think is remarkable.

really speaks to the future of the company. Thank you, John. I agree. I hope folks appreciate that we've done what we said we would do in terms of addressing any prospective concerns in the portfolio. And to John's point, we've done that while growing the company nicely, and we believe in prudent growth, and we're not going to hide from issues. We never have. We're not going to. And right now, there are no issues to talk about.

I guess more specifically than that charge-off level, if you could break out where that came from within segment and was that shared VISTA or NBHC? I know it's a combined company now. And then maybe if you could speak to is 30 basis points annualized net charge-off to average loans a go rate that we should assume or is it – Is this winding down?

Yeah, we actually fully expect it to continue to wind down, to work its way down. And look, these have historically both been very well-run organizations. Both have had minor issues, but no major outliers. I mean, to the extent, if I had to look back and question activities on the NBH side, I would say perhaps we were Overly aggressive and attacking what we thought could be concerning issues and we were willing to do whatever we had to move that risk out of the balance sheet. It cost us some money in that period of time, but it sets us up beautifully as we look ahead. So the answer to your question is we do fully expect that 30 basis points to come down.

And the makeup of the net charge off this quarter?

Yeah, no, I'll just say that on this charge-offs for this quarter, which is why we did not need to reserve for it, right? They were fully reserved for it and spoken for it from periods before, so that tells you that these credits were credits that we've been working on for a while, unknown, and it's just cleaning it out.

Aldis, do you have the loan type and is it a legacy NBHC or is it VISTA credits?

Yeah, I think there was a difference between half and half. Half and half is between legacy, best of, which again was covered through purchased accounting, so there's no provision expense impact there. But then half is legacy and BH. And in terms of asset classes, I don't have it that in front of me.

I can tell you, I mean, we saw exposure in the franchise space that had to be cleaned up. We had dealt with some historical transportation, and as we've reported before, the exposure in that transportation space is down, what, 1.5% of the book, if that, not even that. Now I'm being shown less than 1%. I'm sorry, I should have known that. But again, we've been active where we felt like there was risk either on the horizon or embedded in something that we had exposed ourselves to. And again, we make no apologies for being aggressive and taking that risk upper balance sheet.

Maybe the last one is just the broad reserve to loan levels. I know that you mentioned, I think, about a 20 basis point if you include the March, but the consolidated figure as that continues to trend lower, is there a The level that you feel like the reserve release may continue going forward?

Yeah, I think our belief, and again, a lot of this is driven by the modeling, the third-party modeling, but I believe we're at a point where it would be reasonable to expect it to be somewhat flat. And I'll defer to you, Nicole. Anything you would add?

Yeah, I'll agree with that. And, you know, I think to reiterate what Aldis was saying, to put a finer point on it, the reason that reserve level came down is because some of the specific reserves that we had set aside to cover the loans through the workout process, as they've been worked out, those specific reserves come off and bring that level down. Okay.

Appreciate the color. Thanks.

Jeff, thanks for the question.

Thank you, and I am showing we have no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Laney for his closing remarks.

Thank you very much, and I do genuinely appreciate the coverage and the questions we received this morning, the interest in our company for our teammates that are listening in this morning. I'll end by saying thank you again for what was a remarkable quarter and for helping us build sort of an exciting second half of the year. And on that note, I wish everybody a good day and rest of the week. Thank you.

And this concludes today's conference call. If you would like to listen to the telephone replay of this call, it will be available in approximately 24 hours. And the link will be on the company's website on the Investor Relations page. Thank you very much and have a great day. You may now disconnect.