Everpure, Inc. Class A common stock

Good day and welcome to the EverPure second quarter fiscal 2027 financial results conference call. Today's conference is being recorded. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Paul Diet, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Good afternoon everyone and welcome to Everpure's second quarter fiscal year 2027 earnings conference call. On the call we have Charlie Giancarlo, Chief Executive Officer, Tarek Robbiati, Chief Financial Officer, and Rob Lee, Chief Technology and Growth Officer. Following Charlie's and Tarek's prepared remarks, we will take questions. Our press release was issued after close of market and is posted on our website where this call is being simultaneously webcast. The slides that accompany this webcast can be downloaded at investor.everpuredata.com. On this call today, we will make forward-looking statements which are subject to various risks and uncertainties. These include statements regarding our financial outlook and operations, our strategy, technology, and its advantages, our current and new product offerings, our ability to procure a sufficient supply of components and manage our supply chain, our hyperscaler opportunity, and competitive industry and economic trends. Any forward-looking statements that we make are based on facts and assumptions as of today and we undertake no obligation to update them. Our actual results may differ materially from the results forecasted and reported results should not be considered as an indication of future performance. Discussion of some of the risks and uncertainties related to our business is contained in our filings with the SEC and we refer you to these public filings. During this call, all financial metrics and associated growth rates are non-GAAP measures other than revenue, remaining performance obligations, or RPO, and cash and investments. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are provided in our earnings press release and slides. This call is being broadcast live on the EverPure Investor Relations website and is being recorded for playback purposes. An archive of the webcast will be available on the IR website and is the property of EverPure. Our third quarter fiscal 2027 quiet period begins at the close of business Friday, October 16, 2026. With that, I'll turn it over to Charlie.

Thank you, Paul. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Everpure's Q2 fiscal 2027 earnings call. Q2 was another outstanding and remarkable quarter. We exceeded our guidance range and all key company metrics. Revenue growth of 38% year-on-year continued our 30 plus percent growth performance since Q4. Operating profit surged 77% to 230 million year-on-year. Growth was broad-based across all geographies, products, and business segments. Strong sales momentum carried over from Q1 and continued to build throughout the quarter. Additionally, TCV for Evergreen One has accelerated to a billion-dollar run rate for fiscal year 27, which indicates that our market share gain momentum is even greater than our revenue growth implies. We have seen our revenue growth accelerate consistently and steadily over the last eight quarters, and we now believe that this higher growth rate will be sustainable for some time. Based on current demand signals and win rates, we believe we will see sales and market share strength continue into next year, as you will see in our revised full year guidance. Only some of our growth acceleration can be attributed to price increases, as our growth is far beyond that of our legacy competitors. We believe that we have entered into breakout territory in our core enterprise market. because of the steady progress we have made in building out our product line and architecture. I'm going to speak to you today about four areas that underpin our confidence in our long-term growth. First, the cause and foundation for the acceleration of our growth and market share in our core market. Second, how the current pricing environment advantages our technology and company. our growth opportunity in new areas of business, such as AI, data management, and modern apps and virtualization. And fourth, our growing hyperscale opportunity. First, let's look at what's driving our growth. EverPure has spent the last decade expanding beyond our groundbreaking FlashArray product to serve every storage segment, from backup to AI, from terabytes to exabytes, all on a single unified software foundation, Purity. Purity unifies block file and object. It drives direct flash and allows our customers to benefit from products that never grow old with its unique evergreen capability that promises non-disruptive upgrades forever. For example, One of Europe's largest telecom operators, a longstanding customer, enjoys flexible scaling without disruptive hardware refreshes, significantly lowering their total cost of ownership. During the last decade, we also invested in the ability to have our capabilities offered as a service with Evergreen One and offered on the cloud with Everpure Cloud Storage. As a senior executive from a fast-growing global managed service provider stated, We chose Evergreen One because it gives us predictable, consumption-based economics and lets us expand capacity and performance as customers' demands change. With Everpure managing the underlying infrastructure and lifecycle, our teams can spend less time maintaining storage and more time delivering reliable, high-value services to our customers. That's why they have fully embraced our SLA-backed Evergreen One model. We alone allow our customers to operate our systems as their own global enterprise data cloud with EverPure Fusion. And now we are enabling our customers to contextualize their data to make it AI ready with data intelligence from our one touch acquisition. Since our very first product, industry analysts have recognized EverPure as an innovation and customer leader. Just last week, Gartner validated that momentum, once again positioning Everpure highest in execution and furthest in vision in their 2026 magic quadrant for enterprise storage platforms. Alongside that innovation, we have scaled and developed our go-to-market engine and strategy to become a top-tier competitor across mid-market, enterprise, and government markets globally. Our brand reputation has expanded to where every customer needs to consider EverPure as a supplier in every area of data storage. It is the combination of all of these factors that has brought us to this point where our growth has re-accelerated and it gives us the confidence that this higher growth rate will endure for some time. Next, let's address the current pricing environment and why it directly advantages Everpure. The rapid increase in semiconductor demand and cost continues to affect our industry in multiple and complex ways. This quarter, we saw the predicted effect of increasing prices on both sales and demand. Customers transacting now are paying more for less capacity, while others are increasingly adopting our as-a-service model. For example, this quarter, the University of Western Australia expanded its Evergreen One footprint with us, enjoying the ability to scale its storage on demand while managing costs efficiently. Evergreen One has grown substantially in this environment and is now on a total contract value or TCV run rate in excess of a billion dollars this year. Everpure's advantages in flash technology, lower operational labor costs, and leadership in our storage as a service offerings are providing us with outsized market share gains in this high cost environment. And our decision to honor our past and existing commitments, share the burden with our customers and operate at the lower end of our product gross margin range while component costs escalate has solidified our relationships with both customers and channel partners. Adjusting for the acceleration of Evergreen One, which dilutes reported near-term revenue growth numbers, we are growing well above 40% year over year, far exceeding the market and our data storage competitors. Beyond our core portfolio, we're opening up major new avenues for growth and expanding our market opportunity. The growth of AI is focusing customers more than ever on how they manage their data. at our June Accelerate User Conference, we introduced the concept of data primacy, which will be the future of IT architectures in the AI era. Data primacy posits that for organizations to streamline their operations and make their data AI ready, they need to rationalize and structure their data into sources of truth and systems of record. Data primacy will enable enterprises to take control of their own data manage it strategically in their own data cloud and provide governed access to their data and its context to their chosen AI service providers. Interest in EverPure Data Intelligence, which includes capabilities from our OneTouch acquisition, is off the charts. Every customer we meet identifies with the core issue facing them in their use of AI, namely that their internal data is far too fragmented to be immediately useful for the AI future. Fragmented and inconsistent data leads to lots of manual reconciliation and incorrect results. While a 95% accurate answer to an AI search prompt can be considered a great result, A 95% accurate invoice is unacceptable. Businesses require 100% accuracy in their financial and business operations. 100% accuracy depends on data that is unambiguous. Everpure Data Intelligence allows enterprises to find their distributed sources of data, discover their semantics and context, and deliver a shared context between the different data sets. It can find both the similarities and the discrepancies between individual data elements and make this available explicitly to the organization. Most importantly, it allows the enterprise to control these capabilities themselves rather than trusting their data and context to third parties while enabling selective access to their AI service partners. This puts the enterprise in control. and gives them full sovereignty over their own data. It is the first step to data primacy and it is an exciting new area of growth for EverPure. Our enterprise data cloud strategy continues to advance with over 2,000 of our 15,000 customers now enabled with the capability. Customers appreciate the ability to set policy for their global storage fleet and have the systems automatically and reliably configured to comply with their company policies without error. Our Pure One co-pilot lets customers monitor, diagnose issues and deploy changes fleet-wide, making global data management easier, more consistent and more secure. We continue to scale sales of our products supporting the AI needs of both enterprise and large-scale AI neoclouds. This quarter, Samsung Electronics chose FlashBlade S to support its advanced AI and research initiatives. And a major global bank selected FlashBlade S to standardize their internal GPU as a service and agent development and deployment environments. Everpure Data Stream, our offering built on NVIDIA's AI data platform, was released for general availability and saw its first sales this quarter. one of the largest trial court systems in the US selected data stream to streamline and automate AI accelerated analysis of petabytes of unstructured data, saving hundreds of hours of specialized labor and transforming decades of court records into an AI ready knowledge base while meeting the court's strict data privacy requirements. FlashBlade EGZA, designed for the highest performance needs of large scale AI, continues to expand. An international high performance and AI computing provider selected EGZA for their highest performance AI training environments. And STN, a large AI managed service provider, expanded its FlashBlade EGZA investment to support growing customer demand. EGZA gives STN the world's highest performance and scalability while simplifying operations. FlashBlade S and FlashBlade EGZA in combination uniquely positioned EverPure to meet customers' AI needs from the smallest enterprise AI environments to the largest neo-clouds and everything in between. We've seen a steady increase in GPU attachments for our FlashBlade products across the spectrum. We see growing traction in our virtualization solutions as customers evolve their VM estates. EverPure continues to help customers optimize their VMware footprint with VCF. While adoption for non-VMware modern virtualization solutions, such as Portworx with Red Hat OpenShift and Nutanix virtualization, continue to grow. EverPure has been named Technology Partner of the Year by both Red Hat and Nutanix. and our VMware alternative solutions have grown to well over a $100 million per year run rate. As we announced on August 10, we are pleased to have achieved a design win and signed a supply agreement with a second top five hyperscaler for our hyperscale products. This newly signed agreement will begin to generate significant revenue in our FY28 and beyond. As discussed in previous quarters, we expect hyperscale product revenue to rise significantly in Q3, growing in Q4 and in the years ahead. This win confirms DirectFlash's value proposition in massive scale environments, with customers that build their own storage services. DirectFlash is software-defined flash. Streamlined, efficient, advanced software providing media management, resiliency, performance, quality and reliability paired with reliable hardware. Moving the complexity out of black box SSDs and hard disks lets hyperscalers optimize storage for their workloads, delivering industry-leading density, power, cooling, and lifetime. DirectFlash provides customers the flexibility to evolve and qualify faster as their infrastructure scales and enables a resilient supply ecosystem across a range of flash technology. With the second top five hyperscalers signed and other prospects in progress, we will now refer to our sales and strength in this business in terms of our hyperscale solutions as a whole. rather than referring to any specific customer, customer details or prospect timeframes. We expect large hyperscaler order commitments for our direct flash solution to extend into calendar 2028, powering tens of exabytes of capacity, representing a multiple of our expectations for this year. Our estimates and committed order volumes for total sales to hyperscalers through both fiscal year 27 and 28 continue to grow. and will be incorporated and consolidated into our product revenue and guidance reporting. We look forward to providing more details on our product advancements, particularly our core growth and expansion into new areas, including advanced data management at our upcoming international Accelerate conferences starting in September, as well as our financial analyst meeting scheduled for September 23rd here in Santa Clara. We continue to operate in a very dynamic macro environment and a tight supply market, yet demand for our products is strong even amid substantial price increases across the industry. This is yet another of many reasons why we feel fully confident in our growth, our strategy, and our future. I'll now turn the call over to Tarek to provide greater insight into our performance and our expectations for the remainder of the year. Tarek. Thank you, Charlie.

Q2 was another outstanding quarter for Everpure and represents an important milestone in our growth journey. Year over year, revenue increased 38%, while operating profit grew 77%, with both metrics exceeding the high end of our guidance range. In addition, this marked our third consecutive quarter with performance above the rule of 40, underscoring our ability to deliver both Strong Growth and Profitability. Importantly, our performance was not driven by any single product, customer, or geography. Growth was broad-based across our business, with strength across all major geographies, product categories, and business segments, and the sale momentum we experienced in Q1 continued into Q2. As we look ahead, we believe the fundamentals supporting our business are more than ever firmly in place. We're entering Q3 with a healthy pipeline, strong customer engagement and continued momentum across the organization. As a result, we are raising our full year revenue growth guidance substantially to reflect the strength of our execution and the confidence we have in our outlook for the remainder of the fiscal year. More on that later. In addition to our excellent financial performance in Q2, on August 10, we announced that we secured a design win and supply agreement with a second top five hyperscaler. This achievement represents a significant validation of our technology and strategy. During a second top five hyperscaler reinforces the compelling economic and more. As we noted in our August 10 announcement, we expect only a de minimis revenue contribution in fiscal year 27 from this new agreement and anticipate a meaningful ramp beginning in fiscal year 28 with revenue continuing to scale in subsequent years. Importantly, this agreement marks another inflection point for our hyperscale products and provides another long-term growth opportunity for the business. Now let's deep dive into our Q2 performance. The exceptional momentum we experienced in our core in Q2 was driven by a combination of pricing, mix shift and capacity growth offsetting lower system unit volumes. Our ability to implement price increases while continuing to drive demand demonstrates the strength of both our technology and our customer relationships. We saw particularly strong demand from large established enterprise customers, many of whom were willing to absorb higher costs to secure access to our solutions. In fact, we are operating at a pricing level that we have not seen in 10 years. Even as we tested higher price points, Demand remained resilient, particularly among our top-tier enterprise customers, reflecting both the mission-critical nature of our solutions and the value customers place on our differentiated offerings. Product revenue increased 54% year over year to $687 million. As expected, hyperscaler revenue contributed only minimally during Q2. It is worth noting a couple of observations that attest of the overall strength of demand for our products. First, customers are buying fewer solutions at higher prices. Second, we have observed a mix shift to higher performance configurations with terabyte capacity up across our portfolio. Third, in terms of deal sizes, Deal above $5 million grew 59% and deals above $20 million grew a whopping 385% year on year. Finally, sales of our Evergreen One solution have grown significantly higher than product sales, indicating even stronger growth than appears in our current revenue numbers. Overall, Q2 demonstrated the strength of our business model, the durability of demand across our customer base, and our ability to execute in a dynamic market environment. We remain focused on sustaining this momentum as we continue to expand on market opportunity, deepen customer relationships and drive long term profitable growth. Turning to our storage as a service business, we continue to see exceptional momentum, particularly with Evergreen One. Evergreen One Total Contract Value, or TCV, has accelerated to an annualized run rate of above $1 billion for fiscal year 27. Evergreen One performance in Q2 was driven by a combination of both velocity deals, those below $5 million, and large enterprise agreements, highlighting broad-based customer adoption. The current pricing environment has further strengthened the value proposition of Evergreen One. Unlike traditional product sales, which can be more directly affected by component cost fluctuations, Evergreen One is built on long-term customer commitments with lower upfront capital requirements. With Evergreen One, customers can ramp into growth and are built on a consumption basis, which allows them to better match expense outlays to the growth of their solutions. These characteristics provide customers with a more predictable and cost efficient operating model. Importantly, and because we control the configurations of the solutions that underpin the Evergreen One SLA-based contracts, we're able to contain price increases for Evergreen One well below the price increases of traditional product purchases, making the offering even more compelling in the current environment. As a result, TCV for our storage as a service portfolio, which includes Evergreen One, increased 121% year over year, to $277 million in Q2. The continued acceleration we're seeing reinforces our belief that customers increasingly value consumption-based infrastructure models that provide greater flexibility and cost predictability. Turning to our broader subscription business, subscription services revenue in Q2 increased 20% year over year to $499 million and represented 42% of total company revenue. Annual Recurring Revenue or ARR increased 20% year-over-year to more than $2 billion driven primarily by the continued growth of Evergreen One and strong renewal activity during the quarter. Remaining Performance Obligations or RPO increased 44% year-over-year to more than $4 billion. Growth in RPO was driven by strong bookings across our core business including offerings attached to Evergreen Forever as well as continued momentum with Evergreen One. I'd like to briefly address the relationship between RPO and ARR as differences in the timing of these metrics can create variations in their respective growth rates from quarter to quarter. RPO reflects the total value of contracted revenue that has yet to be recognized while ARR measures the annualized value of recurring revenue currently contributing to the business. Because multiyear contracts are included in RPO when they are signed, RPO often serves as a leading indicator for future ARR growth. As a result, ARR can temporarily lag RPO during periods of strong bookings activity, particularly when large multiyear contracts are signed. Given the acceleration we're seeing in RPO, we would expect ARR growth to continue over the next several quarters as these contracts begin contributing recurring revenue. Turning to gross margins, total gross margin was 69.9%. Product gross margin stood at 66.2% in line with our long-term range of 65 to 70%, representing an increase of 70 basis points sequentially, while subscription services margin was relatively unchanged at 74.9%. As predicted on our last earning call, the revenue contribution from our hyperscale business was minimal in Q2 and we continue to expect the majority of hyperscaler revenue to be recognized in the second half of fiscal year 27. Hyperscale product deployments yields margins in the range of 75 to 85% and therefore should provide an incremental benefit to total product gross margins as volumes begin to ramp in the second half of fiscal year 27. Let me address product revenue growth and gross margins excluding hyperscaler revenues. First, the pricing actions we've implemented in Q2 have largely offset the increases we've seen in component costs so far. We continue to monitor component costs to maintain stable pricing and margins. Second, it's important to emphasize that our pricing strategy remains focused on balancing near term profitability with our long term growth and market share objectives. We have approached pricing in a measured and disciplined manner, remaining consistent with our commitments to customers while preserving the long term strength of our franchise. Our goal here is not simply to maximize margins in the current environment. We intend to continue to operate at the low end of our 65 to 70% product revenue gross margin range to drive top line growth and market share gains while maintaining strong customer relationships. Ultimately, our plan is to allow our product gross margins to return to the upper end of the long-term range of 65 to 70% once semiconductor costs begin to stabilize and return close to original levels. This balanced approach is clearly paying off as we are driving higher levels of top line growth and operating leverage as our operating profit growth attests. Our operating profit of $230 million grew 77% year over year, resulting in an operating margin of 19.4%. Revenue outperformance and pricing management discipline drove this excellent result. With respect to our geographic mix of revenues, U.S. revenue was $688 million, growing 19%, and international revenue was $498 million, growing 75% year over year. International revenue represented 42% of total revenue in Q2. Notably, this marks our highest international revenue contribution to date. Scaling our international presence remains a significant opportunity and a key strategic focus for the company, and we are very pleased with the team's execution this quarter. Moving on to our balance sheet, our liquidity remains robust with over $1 billion in cash and investments at the end of the quarter. Cash flow from operations was negative $136 million in the quarter, primarily reflecting strategic component purchases made to support customer demand and secure component supply to fuel strong growth of our core business. These purchases consistent primarily of NAND and other key components that were intentionally made to mitigate the impact of continued cost inflation and further increases in component pricing. These actions are consistent with our longstanding approach to supply chain management and reflect prudent operational planning to meet the strong demand across our portfolio. While these purchases created a temporary headwind to operating cash flow in the quarter, we expect operating cash flow to normalize over the next two quarters. Capital expenditures were $101 million, representing approximately 9% of revenue for the quarter. Our capital investments continue to support the continued scaling of our hyperscale business and to accelerate growth of our Evergreen One subscription offering while also reflecting the higher price of components. As a result, free cash flow was negative $238 million and we expect free cash flow to track back to operating margins during the course of the year and expect free cash flow for fiscal year 27 to be between $600 million and $800 million. In Q2, we repurchased 932,000 shares returning approximately $69 million to shareholders. We also paid $74 million in withholding taxes on employee awards, offsetting dilution of approximately 1 million shares. We currently have about $176 million remaining under our existing $400 million repurchase authorization announced in Q4 26. Finally, our headcount increased sequentially by 282 employees, bringing our total headcount to 6,900 employees. Now turning on to guidance, I would like to take the opportunity to explain the rationale for our guidance raise. As mentioned in the prior Q1 earnings announcement on May 27, 2026, we were unsure about sustainability of demand as market participants had to adjust to unprecedented price increases that had not been experienced in years. Equally, the supply environment was tight and allocation driven. The combination of these two factors led us to argue that it was too early to call for further upside to our guide in the second half of 2027. Today, although market prices have increased to levels not experienced since 2017, demand remains strong and we have anticipated continuous supply tightness with further strategic bias. Also, as we are past the half-year point, we have now two quarters of visibility towards the end of fiscal year 27. With this new backdrop, we are now in position to significantly increase our guidance for the second half of the year. For Q3, we anticipate revenue to be in the range of $1,325,000,000 to $1,335,000,000 representing approximately a 38% increase year-over-year at the midpoint. We expect operating profit to be in the range of $265 to $275 million, representing approximately also a 38% year-over-year increase at the midpoint. The outstanding strength of our Q2 results, good short-term pipeline visibility and continued momentum we are seeing across our customer base gives us confidence in our full year guidance. Again, I would like to remind everyone per prior guidance that we continue to expect significant hyperscale product revenue in Q3 and Q4 based on order commitments through the hyperscale supply chain for our DFM solutions. For fiscal year 27, we anticipate revenue to be in the range of $5 billion, $30 million to $5 billion, $70 million representing at the midpoint an increase of more than $500 million relative to prior fiscal year 27 guidance. In growth term, we expect revenue growth year-on-year to be at 38% at the midpoint. This is an increase of 75% in growth rate from prior guidance. We expect operating profit to be in the range of $940 million to $960 million representing approximately at the midpoint and increase of $110 million relative to prior fiscal year 27 guidance. In growth term, we expect operating profit growth year-on-year to be at 50% at the midpoint. This is an increase of 54% in growth rate from prior guidance. As Charlie mentioned, we look forward to providing you with an update on Everpure's long-term strategy, path to growth and long-term financial framework at our upcoming financial analyst meeting that will be held on Wednesday, September 23rd at our Santa Clara campus. With that, I'll now turn the call back to Paul for Q&A.

Thanks, Tarek. Before we begin the Q&A session, I'll ask you to please limit yourselves to one question consisting of one part so we can get to as many people as possible. If you have additional questions, we kindly ask that you please rejoin the queue and we'll be happy to take those additional questions as time allows. Operator, let's get started.

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If for any reason you would like to remove that question, please press star followed by one. Again, to ask a question, press star one. As a reminder, if you're using a speakerphone, please remember to pick up your handset before asking your question. We'll pause here briefly as questions are registered. Our first question comes from Amit Daryanani from Evercore ISI. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Thanks a lot and congrats on the impressive print-in guide over here. Charlie, I think the question you dealt with over the last 90 days was why are you folks implying this big decel in your fiscal year guide? You clearly are implying no more deceleration with this updated 37%, 38% growth on the guide. And I heard all the reasons you kind of gave up front and what's driving some of this trend, but if you just help us appreciate when we think about the sizable uplift in guide against 90 days ago, you're taking it up by 16%, 17%. What specifically changed in the last 90 days? And is there a way to think about how big the factors were? Maybe it's end market or better supply or pricing on new workloads. I think the guide is obviously very impressive in the step up. It would be helpful if you just unpack what's driving it and the durability of it versus 90 days ago. Thank you.

You bet. And thanks for the question. Just to set the record straight, We repeated multiple times in the last call that we weren't saying there was going to be a deceleration. We simply said that we were not updating the annual guidance beyond what we had already seen. So it was the lack of an update. Now, why is that? And you're absolutely correct. What changed? Well, first of all, as you well know, and for people who listen to this call all the time know, We generally operate with one to two quarters of visibility, not a full year. So I cannot remember a time when we raised guidance after a Q1 other than just the performance that we had in Q1 plus Q2. But things did change over the last quarter, so your question is absolutely appropriate. Two things went away. The concern about our ability to source components to be able to deliver. and the second was the understanding of what our customers and market participants would do under the scenario of far higher prices. As you may remember, price increases were implemented in Q1 but really didn't fall into the customer environment until Q2. So this is the first full quarter that we've seen of higher prices and we now have a much better understanding of of how customers are responding to the higher prices. And we also have now two quarters of visibility. So, you know, two things went away, concern about the higher prices and the effect, the concern around supply chain, which we feel now we are very much on top of. And then one thing, new information that came in, which is actual experience in how customers are responding to the higher prices. I hope that answers your question, Ahmed.

Thank you, Ahmed. Next question, please.

Our next question comes from Aaron Rakers from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Thank you, guys. This is Michael Tsadinoff on behalf of Aaron. Also want to say congrats on the results in the second hyperscaler design win. For my question, I just was wondering if you can unpack sort of what's baked into the full year guide as far as the trajectory of product gross margins and OPEX growth as well to the back half. Thank you.

You bet. So let me start with that. I want to make it really clear. We are very intentional with our gross margins. I feel that we are in complete control of our gross margins and we are choosing to operate at the lower end of our normal range in order to help customers to share the pain with the customers to help customers through this very difficult transition that is going on in the industry through no fault of their own. I mean, the demand for semiconductors has completely outstripped supply. That's driving semiconductor prices higher across the board from the smallest to the largest, most complex. And it affects us as someone who assembles those semiconductors into equipment. Tarek, I'll leave it to you to the other part of the question.

Yes. Thank you, Charlie. I would add to that that, you know, I'd like to add some color and intentionality that Charlie has referred to a moment ago. Our goal is not to maximize gross margin in percentage terms. Our goal is to seize the opportunity to accelerate the growth and continue to gain market share. We are deliberately choosing to operate at the bottom end of our product gross margin long-term range of 65 to 70%. and this strategy is paying off. It's paying off visibly in terms of operating leverage and you can see two things. Number one, the top line growth that we're driving that I consider to be very impressive at 38%, but also at the bottom line, at the operating profit level, we're driving substantial growth in operating profit, 77% year on year, because we could see that acceleration outpacing the acceleration of our OPEX cost in totality. So this is very intentional, and it's about driving market share gains, revenue growth, and operating leverage.

Thank you, Michael. Next question, please.

Our next question comes from Howard Maugh from Guggenheim Securities. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Hi. Thanks. Good afternoon, and I want to add my congratulations, too, on a spectacular performance all around, including the second hyperscaler win. and demand holding up in light of these unprecedented price increases. So my question is, can you help us better understand the ASP versus volume mix so far this year? In Q1, I think you guys said pricing and pull forward was roughly 10 to 15 points of growth and therefore volume growth was about 20 points of that growth or I guess a little over 20. Volume was down in Q2, as you guys said, or I should say more specifically overall capacity shift. Can you share how much and then with ASPs up over 100% already in the back half this year. Does that mean that your guidance, despite the big raise, that that still implies a significant drop-off in capacity or a bigger drop-off in capacity in back half versus Q2? And that's even after adjusting for the higher Evergreen One sales. Or in other words, maybe a better way to ask it too is, is there still a similar level of conservatism built into the back half guidance?

I'll leave that one for Tarek. So look, the way I like to phrase it is very simple, which is there is elasticity in the market, and when prices go up, elasticity works against the volume side of it. So the increase in revenues that we're seeing is not in proportion, the proportion of capacity, total capacity shift, however you calculate that, has not kept up, is far less than the amount of total revenue dollars that are shipped. And as we see prices start to stabilize, which I would hope to see towards the end of the year, I think we'll start to see volume start to come back up. But Tarek, do you want to? Sure.

Thank you, Charlie. And thank you, Howard, for the question. I won't comment on the second part of your question. I would simply say to you that there are four things that have driven our performance in Q2. Price, mix, units of systems, and also capacity. So overall, system units are down. We see customers paying more for systems at the high end of our portfolio. That's also explainable by the mix shift. And capacity in the system that they buy has gone up. so it is only the units of systems that has not grown and that's what we have observed across our portfolio and that is in a sense a very good result considering that in Q1 as also was anticipated there were some pull-ins and we were transparent in the fact that when you have substantial price increases customers tend to bring forward some purchases and that's why we had pull-ins in Q1 but in Q2 this is no longer the case pull-ins did not play any role and we don't anticipate any further impact from so-called pull-ins in the rest of the year. We feel very good about our guidance as it stands. And I think that if you really look at our top line growth at 38%, you would have to adjust that also for the growth of Evergreen One. Evergreen One has grown spectacularly well in Q2. As Charlie remarked, it's in excess of a $1 billion run rate. So our total growth once you normalize for the Evergreen One contribution is well north of 40% approaching the 50s.

Thank you, Howard. Next question, please.

Our next question comes from Mike Sikos from Needham and Company. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Hey, guys. This is Matt Colletreon from Mike Sikos over at Needham. Thank you for taking our question. We're curious about contract duration and deal size trends for storage as a service customers that underlie the strong growth you're seeing there. Are you seeing any difference in how new and existing customers are approaching evergreen deals, particularly as it relates to near versus long-term planning in the current supply environment?

Yeah. No substantial change other than larger volume. Average contract length tends to exceed three years, somewhere between three and four years. So there's been no substantial change in that. What we are seeing is that, well, first of all, just because of the way it works, we did not need and we did not raise prices in Evergreen One as a service as much as we had to on product sales. and we've gone through why that's the case on multiple occasions. I think what customers see is that they're able to plan on lower prices over a longer period of time with the as a service environment and they appreciate that stability. so and and you know we've seen this in the past that when prices go up we see relatively more demand for evergreen one which is great because part of the challenge uh in an as a service business when it's on-prem is that customers weren't used to it so we really welcome uh the additional attention it's getting but also when prices go down then customers may arbitrage and look to buy a product rather than then go with a service so uh we'll see both sides of that

Thank you Matt. Next question please.

Our next question comes from Eric Woodring from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead, your line is open.

very much for taking my questions and congrats on the hyperscaler win and nice guide. Charlie, when I think about why Everpure wins some of the deals in these higher growth hyperscaler environments, today it doesn't seem super cost effective to replace nearline HDDs with DFMs just given where QLC NAND pricing is versus HDDs. So in these new kind of wins and environments with hyperscalers, what exactly are you displacing? Is that traditionally SSDs or What is the value proposition that these new customers are seeking with your DFMs that they couldn't get with their prior solutions? Thanks so much.

No, I'll start. I'm going to hand it then over to Rob, who works this extensively. But at a top level, you're correct. We are mainly at this point in time replacing SSDs. Now, our solution can be extended down to HDDs when the pricing comes back into line. But in the meantime, we replace SSDs. And you might ask, well, what is our benefit over SSDs? Well, quite simply, it's everything from Power performance to absolute performance to ease of use because we have one software solution for any size, any scale, any performance level. Longer lifetimes, lower failure rate, and then I'm going to hand it over to Rob.

Yeah, Eric, just to add on to that, Charlie's enumerated a number of the benefits of the direct flash technology, which obviously our enterprise customers are well familiar with and have been able to be beneficiaries of for some time. you know where the hyperscalers are now seeing you know a lot of promise for the technology is as they're looking at to your point now some of these SSD estates comparing the benefits they can get in those areas that Charlie enumerated versus SSDs and the dramatic effects that has on reducing their overall cost and just call it headache of operations at hyperscale when you think about you know just to put some numbers for comparison When you think about the significant reliability benefits that DirectFlash drives versus SSDs, five times more reliability on a component basis. When you think about the density benefits, the fact that we can be two, three, five times as dense, when you multiply those out and you look at the overall reliability benefits that drives, you're getting into 25, 50x type of benefits. When you look at efficiency, when you look at power savings, are similarly outsized amounts of benefits. And as compelling as those are in the enterprise, you now think about this at hyperscale, and those benefits are very, very significant. So look, I think it's very early days. We're very pleased to be able to announce the second major design win. But more so, it's just great validation that direct flash software has a lot of room to run in this new market that we're opening up. Thank you, Eric. Next question, please.

Our next question comes from Jason Ader from William Blair. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Yeah, thank you. Good afternoon, guys. Just on the hyperscale business, do you plan on providing any disclosure on the size of the business, maybe at the end of the year or sometime next year? And have you raised your hyperscale contribution in the guidance for this year versus what you had baked in last quarter.

So starting off with that on what's baked in, it's mostly baked in. There's been slight modification to it, but nothing worth calling out. It is on track. It should be stated that it's very much on track according to what we had indicated at the beginning of the year. With two hyperscalers now, it creates a little bit of, if you will, greater confidentiality, but not a lot. So we're going to still stay fairly keep it fairly abstract in terms of guidance. We've indicated the rough size of exabytes that would be shipping this year. We said next year would be multiples of that. We're staying on that right now as the guide. But yeah, we can't go further. Once the business gets to be bigger than it is today, hopefully with more customers than we have today, we'd be able to then become a bit more specific in terms of the overall scale of the business.

Thank you, Jason. Next question, please.

Our next question comes from Simon Leopold from Raymond James. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Thank you for taking the question. I wanted to see if maybe you could do a little bit of compare and contrast of the second hyperscale deal to the first. And what I'm sort of trying to tease out is I recall that there was some degree of R&D work that needed to be done and prep work to ramp it. So what's different about this deal versus the original hyperscale deal? And how should we Think about those compared to the others you're pursuing. Thank you.

Yeah, I want to identify one thing that was different in the, if you will, the closing, if you will, of the deal, and then I'll hand it to Rob on the technology side of it. One of the things about this deal and the reason why it took longer than we anticipated was that this particular hyperscaler didn't want to, quote, award the design win until they also had a contract, a supply contract in place. And so while we had strong indications of a design win quite some time ago, we didn't have an official one until we had the supply contract. So that was one of the things that was different about this one.

So Rob, go ahead. Yeah, and Simon, just to add on, maybe to get back to your original question. Look, if I step back from it without getting into too specific details, what I'd say is that the general design, the environment, the integration, the packaging, of our technology in the second environment is substantially similar to the first customer. As with the first design win, their focus is initially going to be in the warmer and higher performance tiers as we spoke about earlier during the call. But as well, this customer is very interested in, over time, having this consistent architecture be able to be applied across multiple and lower performance tiers as well. and again similar to the to the first customer environment and what we're seeing you know in our ongoing conversations across the board very horizontal storage environments across all workloads including AI but as well serving end customer platform as a service and infrastructure services always will be some fit and finish integrations as with any large customized environment but What's really nice to see and validates our strategy here is that the core IP, the core packaging, the core implementation of solution are very, very similar, as well as not just the solution from a technology point of view, but a business model point of view. As we have had conversations with the financial community over the last four to five quarters, as we ramped up our experience with our first customer, really nicely landed on a business model that worked well for both parties mutually, taking advantage of our IP, the hyperscaler supply chain capabilities, and our contract manufacturer relationships.

Thank you, Simon.

Next question, please.

Our next question comes from Krish Sankar from TD Cowen. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Yeah, hi, thanks for taking my question and congrats again for the really impressive numbers. Charlie or Rob, I had a question for you again, sorry, on the hyperscalers. Very impressive, you got the second hyperscaler. I'm just kind of curious, is there a way to figure out how much of this is actually going to be recurring revenues and how confident are you given the multiples of times of extra buys? Is there any correlation to NAND prices versus your hyperscaler wins? Any chance you can announce a third hyperscale event this year? Thank you.

Yeah. So with respect to the NAM prices obviously have a very significant effect on the business, both in terms of where the technology is targeted and also, frankly, you know, in terms of because we do manage, we're very deeply involved in the supply chains that deliver the NAN to the customer. So it also affects how we have to engage at that level overall. So I would say NAN prices do affect our business in a very significant way.

And Chris, since you were able to speak in the second part of the question, we're not going to be speaking about individual customers and speculating about timing of design wins moving forward. Now with the second customer, with the repeatability, we'll be speaking about and looking at this product category as a whole moving forward.

Thank you, Chris. Next question, please.

Our next question comes from Joseph Cardozo from JP Morgan. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Hi, thanks for the questions, and I'll echo my congrats here as well. Maybe can you just touch on the pre-buys that you highlighted in the prepared remarks? How should we be thinking about the duration or how many quarters of supply you've now locked in? And any thoughts in terms of how we should think about the implications for margins, or is the expectation here that you can pass through pricing? Thanks.

Well, Joe, thank you for the question, and welcome. I think this is your first call with us, so glad to hear your voice. Look, we executed those strategic purchases to continue to support the growth of our core. Our core is growing extremely solidly, and we have now sufficient supply coverage for the foreseeable future. I won't go into the details because it is commercially sensitive, as you can expect. We also now have reached a point in time where pricing has roughly caught up with the costs of Raw Materials. And this is really helping the management of the gross margins moving forward. But like I said to your colleague earlier on the call, we continue to want to operate at the low end of our product gross margin range of 65 to 70%. That is to continue to accelerate top line growth and grasp market share and drive higher levels of operating leverage. Hopefully this helps.

Thank you, Joe. Next question, please.

Our next question comes from Wamzi Mohan from Bank of America. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Thank you. I think you just noted in the Q&A that you were waiting for the hyperscaler customer to secure a supply. And I'm wondering, sort of follow up to your prior question, would you be willing to share if you are signing any long-term agreements with memory makers, or is there an appetite to do that at all, given that your hyperscaler customers are trying to secure supply? But for your non-hyperscale business, obviously you'll bulk up some supply with inventory buildup, but just curious if you're motivated or think that it might be necessary for you to sign any LTAs as you look out further beyond the next couple of quarters.

Wamsi, it's Tarek. Thank you for the question. We executed those strategic buys for our core, not for the hyperscaler business. We do not procure the NANDs for the hyperscaler business. The hyperscalers procure the NANDs for their business through their supply chain. And what Charlie was referring to before is as we executed the second agreement with the hyperscaler, the hyperscaler was waiting to secure his own purchase agreements before signing the agreement with us. That is the distinction. We don't procure the NAD for hyperscalers. The strategic buys are just there to continue to fuel the growth of our core, which has been outstanding in Q2, and we have really good confidence for the rest of the year because of that.

Thank you, Wamsi. Next question, please.

Our next question comes from Azia Merchant from Citi. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Great. Thank you. Charlie, if I may, I think the commentary suggests that you have a good visibility beyond just fiscal 27 that you guys are guiding to here. But it seems like the commentary suggested that you have, you know, possibility of continued share gains and durability of demand. So if I could just, you know, ask you to just unpack, is it enterprise AI adoption that's really driving this and you see the demand towards these high performance flash? that's driving sustainability just even beyond the hyperscaler business, if you could. And just if I may on subscription margins, maybe if you could peel the level here as well on when to expect subscription margins to come back to ranges that they were in the past. Thank you.

Yeah. Well, thank you for the question. As I mentioned at the beginning, we generally operate on about two quarters of good visibility, of good pipeline that allows us to forecast roughly two quarters in the future. And so that's what we're doing right now. Now, you're correct. I'm referencing that I believe that our momentum has increased and that we're picking up share faster than we have in the past, or at least in the most recent past. and because of that, we're more confident as we go into FY28 because the momentum that we have, we feel, is much stronger than we've had for multiple years. And the reasons I gave at the very beginning of my opening remarks is the basis of that. That is to say that we've completed building our products across the entire and the application use case space of data storage. We're leading the industry. The Gartner Magic Quadrant is another example of that. We continue to expand what customers can do with their data and how they can protect it and how they can leverage it for AI. And we think that is benefiting us with outsized market share demands. And that momentum we think will carry going forward. But I wouldn't be very clear that, you know, on a forecast or guide basis, we really only have about two quarters of visibility generally, and that's what we guide on. That is our best prediction of the near future that we can have. Thank you.

Sorry, let me answer.

That's just the second part of the question on subscription gross margins. Look, there are many small factors that are behind the performance in this quarter, but the main one is being price increases in components, replacement costs for our forever program. and that is a good thing. And the reason why it's a good thing is that what we know from customers who take on Forever is that their churn is lower. And so this helps in the long run our business and we will continue to make investments to fuel our Evergreen Forever program.

Thank you. Thank you, Asya. We're a little bit over time, but we're going to squeeze in one more question.

Our last question today comes from Tim Long from Berkeley. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Thank you. Thanks for squeezing me in. I think we covered a lot of the stuff here. I did want to, maybe if you could just touch a little bit, Charlie or Tarek, on the international performance, really big spike in the quarter. So just curious, I know that's been an area of focus and last quarter was down a little bit, so I'm sure there's some lumpiness, but what are the kinds of dynamics there? Is this go-to-market? Is it better product availability? What kind of drove that and how sustainable do you see that that theater. Thank you.

Well, we believe that we're going to, you know, our, we've been operating at a roughly a 30% plus international share of our total revenues, which is a bit low for, and it's an area that we've been investing in for a long time. So we do expect that to continue to go up, but I will say on a quarter by quarter basis, it's better measured on an annual basis, quarter by quarter Remember, it's all based on shipments rather than on bookings, and both shipments and bookings vary over time, so you really better measure it on an annual basis. But yes, we hope to see that continued increase over time.

Thank you, Tim. Before we conclude, Charlie, I think he has a final comment.

Yeah, before we close, I do want to thank our customers, employees, our partners, our investors, and our suppliers through going with us through this very challenging period of time. Our continued success is made possible by your trust and your commitment. So thank you all very much. Speak to you next quarter.

That concludes the EverPure second quarter fiscal 2027 financial results conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.