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Good morning. Welcome to the CEMEX third quarter 2024 conference call and webcast. My name is Adam and I'll be your operator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. If at any time you require operator assistance, please press star followed by zero and we will be happy to assist you. And now, I will turn the conference over to Lucy Rodriguez, Chief Communications Officer. Please proceed.

Good morning. Thank you for joining us today for our third quarter 2024 conference call and webcast. We hope this call finds you in good health. I am joined today by Fernando Gonzalez, our CEO, and Mahir Alhafar, our CFO. As always, we will spend a few minutes reviewing the business, and then we will be happy to take your questions. I would like to remind you that during third quarter, we announced the sale of our Dominican Republic and Guatemala operations, as well as the remaining minority stake in Neoris. This is in addition to the anticipated sale of our Philippines operations, which we announced in April. All of these operations have been reclassified as discontinued operations and are now excluded from our 2024 and 2023 operating results. We are expecting to close these transactions by year end, except for Guatemala, which has already closed in September. And now, I will hand it over to Fernando.

Thanks, Lucy, and good day to everyone. I'm pleased with the significant progress we have made this year with our portfolio optimization efforts. We advanced materially on our goal of translining our portfolio towards developed markets with the announcement of $1.4 billion in asset sales in the quarter, bringing year-to-date announced divestitures of non-core assets to $2.2 billion. With the closing of these transactions, approximately 90% of our EBITDA will be generated in the US, Europe, and Mexico. The proceeds from the divestments are expected to be recycled into our growth strategy launched in 2019 and primarily focused on the US. Our growth strategy continues to pay off in the quarter by contributing 13% of EBITDA. And we are excited by the new accretive growth opportunities we are finding. During the quarter, we formed a joint venture in the U.S. to strengthen and expand our aggregate reserves in the Southeast. And additionally, we acquired a majority stake in a construction, demolition, and excavation business in Germany to produce recycled aggregates. Our quarterly results were significantly impacted by temporal factors such as extraordinary weather conditions in all of our regions, as well as transportation strike in SCAC. In the U.S. alone, we faced three major hurricanes in the quarter versus one the prior year. Additionally, results have a difficult comparison base where EBITDA last year grew more than 30% an EBITDA margin expanded by 3.5 percentage points. Our pricing strategy continue to show resiliency as prices for our products rose low single digits. Net income show exceptional strength, growing over 200% year-over-year. In climate action, we continue delivering against our future inaction roadmap, reducing our year-to-date scope one and two CO2 emissions by 3 and 4% respectively. And while we are working hard to decarbonize using existing technologies, we are also developing breakthrough decarbonization solutions, such as the Cemex-led consortium carbon capture project at our Rudethorpe cement plant in Germany. This is Cemex's largest CCUS project to date. And I'm happy to share that the EU Innovation Fund recently selected this project to receive in funding. During the quarter, Cemex, through the activities of Regenera, our global waste management business, was honored by the inclusion in Fortune's 2024 Change the World list. Fortune highlighted our Very Nile initiative cleaning the Nile River. This landmark project exemplifies how companies can collaborate with NGOs and society to change the world for the better. Our financial results were impacted by extraordinary weather events in all of our main markets, as well as a significant depreciation in the Mexican peso. We estimate a consolidated weather impact of approximately $33 million in EBITDA, a little less than half of the like-to-like EBITDA shortfall in the quarter. Hurricanes and precipitation impacted our U.S., Mexico, and SCAC businesses, while Europe was affected by significant flooding events in the east. Precash flow after maintenance capex declined primarily due to a one-off $306 million tax payment related to the 2023 Spanish tax penalty. Maher will elaborate more on this. Adjusting for this extraordinary tax payment, free cash flow after maintenance capex would have been slightly lower than the prior year. Consolidated volumes declined between low to mid single digits. The U.S. experienced three major hurricanes and significantly higher precipitation and flooding, impacting construction in several of our major markets. In Mexico, as we anticipated, we experienced a slowdown of construction activity post-elections, particularly in the informal residential and infrastructure segments. With the hurricane burial impact in Jamaica, a transportation strike in Colombia, and overall softness in cement consumption in Panama and Colombia, SCAC volumes declined in the quarter. In Europe, cement volumes increased after nine quarters of consecutive declines. Consolidated prices. rose low single digit while sequential prices were largely stable with minor price variations explained by product and geographic mix. Importantly, price gains more than covered variable costs, but were not sufficient to cover fixed costs due to the decline in volumes. With prices and the contribution from growth investments offsetting costs in the quarter, The decline in EBITDA was largely attributable to volumes. Weather impact accounted for a little less than half of the like-to-like EBITDA shortfall. While fixed cost increased due to higher maintenance and labor, we continue to experience energy tailwinds. Growth investments remain an important contributor, now accounting for 13% of total EBITDA. FX was a headwind to EBITDA primarily due to the devaluation of the Mexican peso. Our dynamic hedging strategy that we have followed since 2017 was designed specifically for these situations and worked as we expected, booking again below the EBITDA line, protecting our leverage ratio, and giving the company time to adjust to a new FX level. Maher will explain in more detail. Despite lower volumes, EBITDA margin for our urbanization solutions business rose 1.6 percentage points, reflecting our favorable pricing cost dynamics. Admixtures and mortars continue to contribute strongly to EBITDA with growth across all regions. Circularity, our fastest growing business, also saw important growth in the construction, demolition, and excavation materials business in the US and Europe. The flat EBITDA variation was due primarily to Mexico, where some of the large government-related pavement projects of the prior administration come to an end. During the quarter, we announced the acquisition of a majority stake in a recycling company in Berlin that processes 400,000 tons of construction, demolition, and excavation materials, which can be repurposed into aggregates for recycled concrete. Beyond its recycling capabilities, this facility operates the first plant to permanently store biogenic CO2 in recycled mineral waste in Germany. This investment will integrate with our regenerative business as we continue to scale the repurposing of construction, demolition, and excavation materials and advance our circularity focus. We remain optimistic about the outlook for this business and its contribution to our overall results. On climate action, through our reduce before capture strategy, we continue to make steady progress in decarbonization with a 3% decline in Scope 1 emissions year-to-date, driven by a 0.9 percentage point reduction in clinical factor. Since the launch of our Fisher in Action program in 2020, we have materially accelerated the pace of our decarbonization in a profitable way, reducing Scope 1 emissions by 15%, a reduction that previously would have taken us more than 15 years to achieve. And we continue to make strides in scope to emissions with a 15% reduction since 2020. Additionally, we are working hard to innovate around carbon capture and other technologies to drive decarbonization from 2030 and beyond. One of those projects is in Rudelsdorf, Germany, where we have CEMEX largest CCUS project to date. I'm pleased to announce that our CEMEX-led consumption was selected to receive 157 million euros of EU innovation funding for carbon capture at Rudersdorf. We will work with Linde, a leading global industrial gases and engineering company, to capture 1.3 million metric tons of CO2 per year. This is a milestone project which aims to convert Rudersdorf into the first net zero CO2 plant within the CEMEX system. We are very pleased with the rapid adoption of our lower carbon family of products, Vertua, which was introduced in 2018. Today, more than 60% of our total cement volumes have Vertua attributes, while ready mix has a rate of 55% acceptance. This is an improvement of 8 percentage points versus the prior year. To qualify as a vertical cement or concrete, the material must have a minimum 25% reduction in CO2 versus a traditional cement or concrete. On average, The Vertua cement and ready mix that we are selling today has a 45 to 49% reduction of CO2 compared to a traditional product, which is quite significant. From the renovation of the Grand Palais in Paris ahead of the Olympics, to the longest tunnel in Latin America, to a 28-acre mixed-use facility in San Francisco, CEMEX is participating in key projects across the world, supplying sustainable building materials and leading the way in decarbonizing the built environment. I recognize we are at an important moment in our capital allocation strategy with the expected closing of $2.2 billion in announced investments by the end of the year. I would like to take this opportunity to reaffirm what we have discussed a few months ago during our CEMEX Day event related to our capital allocation framework. You should expect that we will continue to execute a balanced approach where we will prioritize recycling divestiture proceeds into growth investments, while also focusing on deleveraging and accelerating shareholder returns. The growth strategy is focused on investing in developed markets and Mexico with particular focus on the US, which we are expecting over the medium term to contribute to 40% of consolidated EBITDA. With the divestment proceeds, we will continue to pursue both on margin enhancement investments aligned to what we have done over the last few years. but complement these efforts with small to midsize M&A transactions. At the product level, investments are focused on aggregates, urbanization solutions, and addressing specific needs in cement and decarbonization. We also expect to continue locating capital to reduce our net debt leverage ratio to one and a half times over the next two years. And as a third element of our framework, we will gradually build on the recent initiation of a progressive dividend program, an opportunistic share buyback program to return cash to shareholders. Our business has been growing nicely since 2020 with a care of 14% driven not only by organic growth, but also by our growth strategy adopted in 2019. With $1.1 billion invested in 239 projects, our completed projects had an average IRR of 35%. The portfolio contribution is accelerating with growth projects now accounting for $325 million in 2023, roughly 10% of total EBITDA. The completed projects consist of accretive bolt-on and margin enhancement investments, typically within our existing footprint. They offer important synergies with our existing portfolio and customers with significantly less acquisition risk. The growth strategy is proving to be a great complement to our organic growth. We expect that the contribution from our $3 billion pipeline of growth investments will continue to ramp up and contribute more than 700 million of EBITDA by 2028. Excluding cement legacy projects, half of the investments are expected to be allocated to the U.S. These are examples of some of the growth investments that we have executed over the last three years. Our initial portfolio consisting primarily of Bolton investments offer IRRs in the 35% area. Going forward, as we pursue small and medium-sized acquisitions, we expect overall return metrics to be somewhat tighter. And now back to you, Lucy.

Thank you, Fernando. Consistent with our expectations, volumes in our Mexican operations slowed as construction activity decelerated after the June election. The slowdown was further exacerbated by record precipitation and a prior year's base effect, in which EBITDA rose more than 30%. For the full quarter, precipitation levels were 50% higher than the prior year. We estimate the impact from bad weather on EBITDA to be approximately $8 million. As a forward-looking indicator, we continue to see healthy growth in our ReadyMix order book for projects related to nearshoring and infrastructure. Importantly, our cement and ReadyMix prices rose mid-single digits and helped to alleviate some of the cost pressure in the form of an unfavorable currency movement, higher maintenance, and electricity costs. The margin variation related primarily to a 30% rise in electricity cost compared to a mid-single-digit decline observed in the first half. We are in the midst of transitioning our power supply sourcing in Mexico, and in the interim, we are incurring incremental costs which should reverse in first quarter 2025. In October, we announced a 5% price increase for bagged cement to offset recent cost inflations. Over the medium term, we are optimistic about Mexico's growth prospects. As the new government settles in, its agenda appears supportive of housing as well as infrastructure. In the past few days, the government announced its intention to build 1 million homes over the next six years, as well as reaffirming the development of 10 economic corridors across the country with the purpose of capitalizing on the near-shoring story. Recently announced investments of more than $20 billion in the energy, tourism, IT, and logistics sectors provides an encouraging outlook for the administration's receptivity to foreign direct investment. Demand for our products and solutions will continue to be supported by social programs, wage growth in real terms, high remittances, and circular construction opportunities. In the U.S., Our operations were impacted by extreme weather conditions with three major hurricanes and above average precipitation and flooding. Several of our key markets experienced 50 to 200% higher precipitation than the prior year. We expect some lost volumes to be recovered in future quarters. EBITDA declined slightly due to lower cement and ready mix volumes. The resiliency of the business to the drop in volumes was impressive, with EBITDA margins stable, driven by lower imports, energy cost deceleration, and our operational optimization efforts. Aggregate volumes, which are typically less sensitive to weather, declined 1%. We estimate the impact of adverse weather on EBITDA to be $17 million, which explains all of the EBITDA variation year over year. I would like to highlight our aggregates operations, which is now the largest contributor to U.S. profitability. Year to date, it accounts for 36% of EBITDA, with margins in excess of 30%. Pricing for our three core products rose low single digits. We anticipate improved conditions in 2025, supported by underlying demand for infrastructure, improved activity and housing, and stabilization of the commercial sector. Only half of the IIJA funding has been allocated to date, and we expect affordability for the residential sector to gradually improve as rates adjust downwards. Finally, we are excited about our recent joint venture with Couch Aggregates, which will increase our distribution capabilities and eventually add to our aggregates reserves in the Mid-South market. We are pleased with EMEA's performance, where we believe we are experiencing an important inflection point in our European business. EMEA EBITDA was stable year over year, and we believe we are seeing a recovery in the region. Europe is leading the turnaround with EBITDA growth on a reported basis, and where for the first time in nine quarters, we have seen volume growth. The improvement in volumes is largely attributable to better economic activity, lower interest rates, the lifting of the construction ban related to the Paris Olympics, and an easier prior year comparison. The year-over-year variation in EBITDA improved significantly versus the prior three quarters. Prices for our three core products were stable across our European footprint, while most of our costs continued to decelerate, particularly in energy for cement production. On climate action, Cemex Europe continues to test record levels of decarbonization with a 5% reduction year-to-date in CO2 per ton of cement, supported by a clinker factor reduction of 1.7 percentage points. Finally, in the Middle East and Africa, EBITDA increased due to better pricing dynamics in Egypt and improved construction activity in Israel. As mentioned earlier, we have reclassified the Dominican Republic and Guatemalan operations as discontinued operations. Our SCAC operations experienced a challenging quarter in terms of volumes impacted by two hurricanes, as well as a transportation strike in Colombia. These events impacted EBITDA by an estimated $7 million. EBITDA and EBITDA margin declined 27% and 5 percentage points, respectively, driven by lower volumes and higher maintenance. Despite the current demand environment, prices for our products rose between 3% and 10%. The formal sector continues driving demand with large infrastructure projects, such as the Bogota Metro, in which Cemex was awarded approximately 80% of total volumes, and the fourth bridge over the canal in Panama. And now I will pass the call to Maher to review our financial developments.

Thank you, Lucy, and good day to everyone. Sales in EBITDA for the first nine months of the year were down 1% and 2% respectively versus last year. As mentioned earlier, we have faced volume headwinds due to adverse weather and weak demand dynamics in several of our markets. Despite this, our year-to-date EBITDA margin has shown remarkable resiliency and is virtually flat to last year at 19.4%. This performance is a consequence of our pricing strategy, which has outbased inflation in our business, as well as cost containment and business optimization efforts. On the cost side, year to date, we saw a 23% decline in fuel costs on a per ton of cement basis. This was driven by lower fuel prices, the increased use of lower cost and lower carbon fuels, and our continued reduction in clinker factor. We have seen this cost trending down since third quarter of 2023 and expect this to continue through year end. Currently, close to 80% of our hedgeable energy and freight costs are either contractually fixed or hedged for 2024, while for 2025, we are close to a 60% level. Free cash flow after maintenance gap X for the first nine months of the year was impacted by non-recurring items for $383 million, which includes a $306 million payment towards the $500 million Spanish tax fine announced in fourth quarter of 2023. Adjusting for these extraordinary payments, free cash flow year to date would be 23% lower than last year due primarily to lower EBITDA and fewer fixed asset sales. Working capital investment so far this year has been $415 million, and we remain on track to achieve our guidance of reducing working capital by about $300 million for the full year. Net income for the first nine months of the year was $891 million, 43% higher than last year, driven primarily by a lower effective tax rate and the gain from the sale of our operations in Guatemala in third quarter. Given the volatility in the Mexican peso this year, I would like to highlight that we have an ongoing Mexican peso hedging strategy, fully covering our operating cash flow from our Mexican operations. That effectively lowers the volatility of the exchange rate at which we convert pesos into dollars for tenors of up to two years. The benefit of our peso hedging strategy and our consolidated net debt reached $185 million on a year-to-date basis. and $95 million during the third quarter, including conversion gains on peso-denominated debt. This program helped smooth out our free cash flow in dollar terms. Our leverage ratio stood at 2.22 times, about a tenth of a turn higher than second quarter, driven primarily by lower EBITDA and the payment of the Spanish tax line. Our leverage ratio is expected to be substantially lower by the end of the year as we close the sale of our $2 billion in remaining announced divestments. As we have stated before, these proceeds will be used mostly to fund our growth strategy going forward. And now back to you, Fernando.

We are adjusting our full-year EBITDA guidance to allow single-digit percentage decrease. This primarily reflects the impact of weather in third quarter, as well as the current Mexican peso FX rate relative to our previous guidance. We remind you that our guidance is for like-to-like operations and assumes FX as of the end of the quarter for the remaining of the year. For total capex, we are reducing our guidance by $100 million to $1.5 billion. This guidance expects a significant ramp up in spending in four quarter, the pace of which is not completely in our control. For cash taxes, we are reducing our guidance by $100 million to $900 million to reflect the recent payment of the Spanish tax fine. Please see the annex for our current volume guidance by region. It is a bit early for us to be talking about 2025, but I would like to share some of our thoughts on the upcoming year. We will, of course, give the usual guidance when we report for quarter results. We are seeing the evolution of some important macro trends and demand drivers for next year and beyond. Billions of dollars in fiscal stimulus remain to be deployed in the US and Europe for infrastructure and climate action purposes. We also expect the nearshoring study to continue to unfold as global supply chains shift and consolidate. In 2024, we had a record year for global elections occurring in countries home to almost half of the world's population. As we enter 2025, with more visibility of the policy of the new administrations, we expect incremental spending from both the private and public sector. Decreasing interest rates across the globe should stimulate additional private sector investment in the residential and industrial space. All of this should be supportive of demand conditions for our products in the core markets in 2025. And now back to you, Lucy.

Before we go into our Q&A session, I would like to remind you that any forward-looking statements we make today are based on our current knowledge of the markets in which we operate and could change in the future due to a variety of factors beyond our control. In addition, unless the context indicates otherwise, all references to pricing initiatives, price increases or decreases refer to prices for our products. And now, we will be happy to take your questions. In the interest of time and to give other people an opportunity to participate, we kindly ask that you limit yourself to only one question. If you wish to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your touchtone telephone. If your question has already been answered or you wish to withdraw your question, press star followed by two. Press star one to begin. And the first question comes from Gordon Lee at BTG Paxual. Gordon?

Hi. Thank you, Lucy. Good morning, and thank you very much for the call. I just wanted to drill down a little further on the volume shortfall for the quarter and particularly get a better understanding of how confident you are that the bulk of it or a significant portion of it at least was weather-driven whether you've seen some normalization of that as the fourth quarter has now begun and it looks like weather seems to have normalized in most places. And then maybe also sort of explain to us how your backlog performed, particularly in Mexico and the U.S., in contrast to the volume performance that you saw during the quarter, just to get a better sense of how confident you are in attributing a good part of that weakness to value, to weather, and not to something more structural or underlying on the demand front. Thank you.

Great. Lucy, do you want me to take Mexico and then follow with the U.S., or?

Sure. Go right ahead, Moher. Yep.

So, Gordon, just to remind also the listeners, I mean, Mexico was down 10%, 7% on the quarter. And, you know, we had pretty bad weather both in July and in September. So that was very important. And we estimate, I mean, as you can imagine, the impact is not just the number of days of precipitation, but also prep before and after some of these storms that take place. And that applies to all of our markets. So the impact is quite material. And for the quarter, In the case of Mexico, we estimate about 40% was, you know, 40% of the drop in volumes of the 7% is really due to weather. And the balance is due to the kind of post-election slowdown. And clearly, you know, we've had some slowdown in the infrastructure side, the residential market in Mexico, especially the formal construction side. housing market continued to be challenged because of the interest rate environment. But, you know, we do believe that things should be getting better. Now, the other thing that you got to consider is when we're comparing to last year, third quarter, pretty much all over our markets, things were, you know, phenomenally better, right? And so we're suffering also from a base effect, you know, comparison versus last year. Lucy, I don't know if you want to cover the U.S.,

Sure. I think it might be useful to talk a little bit, too, about how we calculate the weather impact because I think it's a pretty conservative estimate. Normally, the way we look at it is if operations are closed and we aren't able to sell during those days, plus any repairs coming out of the business that we need to make because of the hurricanes, and any new imports perhaps that we need to bring in to support supply in the aftermath. But it doesn't take into account the level of precipitation, the fact that the ground itself is very wet, that it takes a while for contractors to begin to scale up after a hurricane as they get through the debris and everything else. So I think, if anything, our estimates with regard to weather impact are fairly conservative, and that's important to remember. And the other thing that I would say specifically, and this is true for both the U.S. and Mexico, is that when the sun was out, we were actually seeing sales levels, average daily sales levels, very much in line with our expectations for the back half. And Gordon, to your point on the question in terms of Mexico in particular, we were hard hit in July, we were hard hit in September, but August was very much in line with our expectations. And that I think also has been true in terms of October as well. In the case of the United States, the weather impact based on our definition of weather impact is a little bit higher than Mexico. It's about 50%. So it was You know, we reported a 6% decline in volumes. 3% of that was hurricane related on cement. And of course, we had three hurricanes during the quarter. And depending on markets, we were seeing precipitation of anywhere from 50 to 200% higher. Now, of course, weather doesn't explain all of the volumes. We continue to see somewhat of a slowdown in terms of residential that we've been seeing on a year-over-year basis. And commercial also, although it's beginning to bottom, but it has been a little bit slow as well. But we would attribute about 50% of volumes to weather. And again, as we look at what's been happening in terms of October, it's a difficult month because, of course, we were hit by a hurricane the second week of October. And that has had an impact, but certainly what we've seen is a resumption in terms of average daily sales in line with our expectations for the U.S. business for the back end.

Super. That's very helpful. Thank you very much.

Okay.

Thanks, Gordon.

And the next question comes from Paco Chavez from BBVA.

Paco? Hi. Thanks for the call and for taking my question. Can you give additional color on Mexico's margin drop and the reason for higher electricity costs? And also with demand decelerating in Mexico, how feasible it is for you to continue increasing cement prices in order to recover margins? Thank you.

Thanks, Paco. On the, you know, the margin and the impact, the biggest impact I would say on the margin was the impact of electricity, the negative impact of electricity, which was about 1.8 percentage points of the decline was due to that effect in the quarter. And then we had another percentage point or so impact in terms of volume. Now, fortunately, that was, you know, offset by, to some extent, by a very sizable increase in pricing, 3.2 percentage points, positive contribution to margins as a consequence of our successful pricing strategy. And in terms of, you know, what caused the uptick in the price of electricity, it's that we started migrating in the quarter um to the wholesale market and um and that happened you know for a large number of our plants but not all of our plants and so we were essentially uh reducing the amount of electricity that we were getting under our agreement uh with the um with our with the tech which is the self electricity self-producing facility that we have um and um And we started buying electricity in the spot market from CFE. And there's a price differential between 30% to 35% for the quarter as a consequence of that. Now, that's likely to continue into the fourth quarter. It's likely to dissipate as we go into the beginning of the year, number one, because most of our plants, if not all of our plants, will have been migrated to the wholesale market. But additionally, sometime in the beginning of next year, we will start purchasing under a contract in the wholesale market from the tech. So we will be reverting to pricing that is much lower cost-based than coming from CFE, probably around, again, 30%. So throughout the course of the year, we should be significantly recovering the increase in the cost of electricity that we saw in the quarter. I don't know if that answers the question. Was there a follow-up question that I missed?

Yes. You kind of, on the pricing?

Yeah.

Yeah, on the pricing, sorry, yeah.

Go ahead, Lucy.

No, I was just going to say that, you know, as Maher said, pricing was quite strong on a year-over-year basis. We were up about 3%, I think, year-over-year. That was, you know, covering our fixed and variable cost increases, and fixed costs are up because of the volume decline as well in margin terms. But, you know, importantly, we did announce a pricing increase. In fact, our competitors in Mexico actually first led with a pricing increase, and we did follow in early October on bagged cement with a 5% increase.

Right. Thanks so much. Thank you.

And the next question comes from Anne Milne from Bank of America.

Good morning, Maher, Fernando, Lucy. Thank you very much for the call. My question has to do with the comment on the larger contribution of the aggregates business in the U.S. Is this something that you are expecting that will continue going forward? And is it possible to see something similar in any of CEMEX's other countries or regions? Thank you.

Yeah, I mean, if we, you know, first time, I guess if we step back on the importance of the aggregates business in the U.S. It's really quite material. It's now more than a third of our EBITDA. Actually, it's around 36%, 37% of our EBITDA. It's extremely profitable, and this is one of the businesses that we have targeted for further future capital allocation as we go forward. We think that because of because of regulatory constraints and because of the outlook for growth in the construction market in the U.S., it's a very attractive space. We've had very good pricing environment and have enjoyed that for a very long time. So this is an area that we continue to focus on. We do see opportunities elsewhere in our portfolio to allocate the capital in that. And, you know, without getting into details, you know, just respond – I mean, I would say that – Certainly Mexico is an area that may benefit from that in the long term. We certainly would take a look at, you know, other parts of developed markets where we see the supply-demand dynamics for aggregates and pricing strategies for aggregates being positive. So this is an area of high priority in terms of allocating capital in the future, and we think, you know, pricing capabilities in that market should continue to be fairly positive as well.

Great. Thank you very much.

And the next question comes from Adrian Huerta from JP Morgan. Adrian?

Thank you, Lucy. My question has to do with the capital allocation. First, on the three buildings that were mentioned on the pipeline that you have, that is expected to add $700 million on EBITDA by 2028. How much of this has been invested and if this is part of the growth capex? And then on the proceeds from the asset sales, what percentage of that could end up being allocated towards reducing debt and why not being more active on buybacks?

Yeah, I don't think I got the first part of the question, Adrian. Could you mention again, please?

Sure, Michael. You guys mentioned that there was a $3 billion investment pipeline. I guess that has been, some of that has been executed already. They're expected to add $700 million and maybe that by 2028. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean, so far. How much has been invested so far, basically, was the question.

Right. So, so far, about a third of that has been invested, about a billion one. And, you know, so, you know, so far it's contributing north of 11%, 12% of EBITDA. And the, you know, the multiples that we have been investing in because of the type of investments that we have been making, which are both on acquisitions or margin enhancement investments, have been quite attractive. The multiple has been between three to four times. So clearly, you know, and these are very accretive transactions. Now, the remaining portion of that $3 billion, about $2 billion, is expected to be invested in the next couple of years. And we are expecting to increase the total contribution of the $3 billion to around $700 million of EBITDA. So, again, very accretive transactions, and, you know, we are likely to continue the same profile and with the exposures primarily addressing the U.S. market. That's where the highest, you know, the highest bias, I would say, in terms of markets that we would like to invest in. And in terms of the use of proceeds, I mean, from the assets that we have divested, as Fernando mentioned in his opening remarks, will be substantially towards investing or recycling throughout our portfolio along the lines that we have done in the last two to three years. So there's really no change in the way that we're allocating our assets. There's going to be primary focus on the U.S. Within the U.S., we're looking at We're also looking at aggregates in general. Urbanization solutions is another area that has been extremely attractive and has grown and now contributing quite a bit of our EBITDA, as you have seen. And, you know, we're also looking at very specific needs investments in terms of cement and decarbonization. All of these transactions are likely to have IRRs that are north of 30%, and average payback periods between three to four years. And I think that we've achieved that so far. In addition, you know, clearly, we are still committed to reducing leverage, as we've mentioned, in our analyst day, this year, we're looking at reducing leverage to around one and a half times over the next two years. So some capital would be allocated to reduce leverage in that respect. And of course, we are quite committed to progressively increasing shareholder returns, you know, through sustainable dividends and eventually share buybacks. Now, to address your questions on share buybacks, you know, we definitely believe that, you know, we're certainly trading today at a very low multiple, and it looks like it represents a very interesting opportunity for share repurchases, but we do believe that the current multiples that we're trading at are being affected substantially by what's happening in Mexico, election results in Mexico, election uncertainties in the U.S. That's creating a lot of volatility in the market, a lot of volatility in our stock price. So while we think it's a very low multiple, we do believe that this is a short-lived event or dynamic. And as I mentioned, from a capital allocation perspective on a strategic level, you know, we have quite a bit of opportunities to invest capital going forward in the next 24 months at very accretive levels at below our trading level. Now, that does not mean that we will not opportunistically, to the extent it makes sense, do something on the buyback process, but from a strategic standpoint, perspective, we think there's a lot of opportunities at accretive levels, at attractive multiples, and that will contribute growth in our EBITDA, which we believe our shareholders value quite a bit, delivering that growth over the long term, and also getting market positions that have first mover advantages to them. So when we take a look at the strategy You know, we take a look at medium-term impacts as opposed to kind of short-term tactics because the market is, you know, trading our stock price at a lower than desirable level from our perspective.

I don't know if that addresses the question. Yes. Thank you, Makar. Thanks a lot, Adrian.

And the next question comes from the webcast from Paul Rogers. from . Guidance is still for high single-digit decline in energy costs despite Q3 issues in Mexico. Does this suggest energy is going down by more than expected elsewhere? How hedged is the group into 2025?

Yeah, Roger, thank you for the question. And the answer is yes. I mean, while we saw a spike in electricity because of the dynamic that I mentioned, which is the transitioning to the wholesale market in Mexico, which we expect to, again, as I mentioned, reverse itself in 2025, there has been, you know, a drop in energy prices, total energy prices in many of our markets. And the same goes through for within energy for fuels and for electricity. And that's one of the reasons why we continue to believe that, you know, for the full year, guidance is going to continue to be a drop in the cost of energy for us. And I could, you know, we could give you examples. For instance, I mean, you know, in the case of electricity, In the U.S., we, you know, we had a drop in electricity costs in several markets in Europe. You know, we had a drop in cost of electricity, for instance. Fuels in general are dropping and continue, we expect it to continue to drop as well into the third quarter. The use of alternative fuels, of expensive alternative fuels is also dropping significantly. And that's, translating to better performance for the full year at the end of the day and getting us to maintain our guidance that we have indicated on the energy side. Now, in terms of how hedged we are, you know, what I can tell you is that, you know, I kind of remarked at that in my remarks section, but also, you know, we continue to as far as diesel going into 2025, you know, we're protected, you know, up to 15% increase versus where we are today. In terms of pet coke, you know, we're hedged, you know, probably close to 10% versus where we are today. And in electricity, you know, we're 76% of our electricity needs are fixed going into next year, either because they're regulated or because they're fixed or because we have fixed it contractually. So, you know, we've been very proactive on the energy side, pretty much all aspects of energy to try to take advantage of the levels that we have seen this year going into next year.

And, Maher, I believe that maybe diesel is almost 100% hedged, actually, for 2025, if I'm not mistaken.

Yes, yeah, yeah.

Great. And the next question comes from Adam Salfimer from Thompson Davis. Adam?

Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. So, like you, I am surprised at the – that's evaluation, it's frustrating, and I'm curious if you've looked at any other strategies to address that, such as a primary US listing.

Yeah, I mean, I'd hate to speculate, Adam, because, I mean, obviously, you know, we're always looking at ways to maximize shareholder value, right? But, you know, anything that is along the lines that you're suggesting is, you know, it's a major operation. It has its positives. It has its negatives. It takes time to execute. We need to evaluate the ramifications on, you know, other things. I mean, at the end of the day, you know, we are optimizing shareholder value at the CX level, you know, foremost, I would say. So I think, you know, I would hate to speculate on this. What I can tell you is that we're constantly evaluating different strategies and seeing how we can deliver the most efficient way of shining the light on the valuation of the company. But I really would prefer not to speculate on whether we're looking at a particular strategy versus another at this point in time. Okay. Thanks, Mark. Thank you.

The next question comes from Carlos Perry Long from Bank of America. Carlos?

Thank you, Lucy. My question has already been answered. Thank you.

Okay. Thanks, Carlos.

And I think we have time for one more question. And the last question comes from Jarell Gilotti from Goldman Sachs. Jarell, sorry if I mispronounced your name.

Okay. No worries, Lucita. Good morning to everyone. So I just wanted to touch upon something that was mentioned earlier about the current Mexican president. announced proposals to build 1 million homes in Mexico. So I was wondering, considering that more than half of your residential demand is from the informal sector, I just wanted to understand how do you think that these proposals could impact your overall residential demand, and how quickly do you think we can see this flow through? That would be my question. Thank you.

Lucy, I might hear the question. Yeah, you want to answer?

I'll start, but please feel free to jump in. You're absolutely right. I mean, Claudia Scheinbaum recently announced that she intends to build a million homes during her administration. Obviously, that's over a six-year period, but she did say that 167,000 of these homes were expected to be built during 2025. So we certainly think that this should have a positive impact going into next year. If you look at formal construction, it's from coming from the residential sector, it's roughly about 30% of our volumes. So I think that for that 30%, that obviously is a plus and something we'll be considering as we look towards next year and beyond in terms of growth. In addition, she's had some important announcements as well in terms of onshoring investments, with over $20 million announced in onshoring as well in the last two weeks, and continued focus on her 10 development corridors, which would provide the infrastructure necessary for continued onshoring. So all in all, I think we're very pleased with the announcements to date. We obviously have to see these come to fruition, and I think 2025 would be the starting point to see that impacting our values.

Thank you very much.

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