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Q32024

11/5/2024

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Operator
Conference Operator

Good day and welcome to today's Rubis Q3 and 9-month 2024 trading update call. Throughout today's recorded presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. You may register for questions by pressing star 1 on your telephone keypad at any time, and you may also submit your questions via the webcast. And now I'd like to hand the call over to Mr. Marc Jekyll, CFO. Please go ahead, sir.

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Marc Jekyll
Chief Financial Officer

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us today for this Q3 2024 trading update. I'm hosting the call today with Clemence Mignon du Perrault, head of investor relations. Before we dive into our business, let me remind you of the context of this quarter. We faced an extremely volatile oil price due to the escalation of the conflict in the Middle East, and prices fluctuated significantly through the quarter, especially in September and October with the general down rate trend globally. At previous level, the main elements of the quarters are the following. On the distribution side, we saw high volumes compared to last year with 7% increase. and 5% increase in the beginning of the year. This volume growth was mostly driven by Africa, and to a lesser extent, Europe. This demonstrates that Rubis is gaining market shares in these countries, and demand for the products we distribute is there. However, on the margin, the very sudden decrease in oil prices subsequent volatility had a short-term negative impact on our margins with a global picture which is a bit contrasted depending on the geographies. Because if you look in the Caribbean, which is less regulated, we are going to pass through the major part of the oil price fluctuations to our customers quite quickly. This area has not really suffered the from this volatile context. On the other end, actually in Africa, which is a much more regulated market with less flexibility in fixing the prices and time lags generated by pricing formulas. So here we ended with inventories whose value had decreased between the purchase and the sale to be degrading our margins there. When you look at support and services, the activity of our vessels continued to be dynamic in the Caribbean, and the strong performance was offset by the bitumen trading activity which lagged behind. 2023 was a record year in the context of high shipping rates. This is why we see support and services margin decreasing year on year. But as a reminder, to give you a bit of history here, we have been trading bitumen from the Mediterranean to North America when our vessels were back due to the rainy season in Africa or when we had lower in-house activity. And these opportunities generated by a market asymmetry became more limited in 2024 and more quickly than expected. And this is the reason why we're shifting to a different geographic approach in the eastern part of the Atlantic. And this switch needs some times to be fully up to speed. When we look at photosol, things are in line with what was presented in September with a secure portfolio now of 1 gigawatt. And among the important event of the quarter, it is worth mentioning the sale of Rubis terminal, which is now closed, giving way to the premier 75 cents exceptional dividend that will be paid this Friday. And as you have seen, So the pressure on the margin we have just been through, combined with the delay of the adjustment of the pricing formula in Kenya, have led us to revise our IBD guidance for 2024 to 675, to bracket of 675, 725 million euros for the year. Our net income guidance was updated with a mid-range, which is in line with what was previously communicated at 340, 375 million euros. And our dividend distribution target remains unchanged. So Clémence will comment on the operational highlights of the quarter.

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Clémence Mignon du Perrault
Head of Investor Relations

Thanks, Marc, and good evening, everyone. To dig deeper into the operational highlights of the quarter, I invite you to look at slide number three, where you can see in more detail the energy distribution retail and marketing business, where volume was up 7% over the quarter and gross margin down 1%. This means that unit margins were down 7% compared to last year. On a product by product basis, LPG continued to perform well with an increase in volume and margins, which were strong over the quarter in autogas in France and Spain and a continued high level of activity in the ceramics business in Morocco. Portugal was under high competitive pressure during this quarter and had decreasing unit margins. Now looking at the fuel business, Caribbean still performed well with, let me remind you that 2023 was an excellent year for the Caribbean in the fuel distribution business. And this trend continues. Jamaica and Guyana are ahead of the boat with very strong growth, both in volume and margins. In Haiti, margins remain stable, but volume are decreasing. We're still waiting for the UN forces intervention to produce effects. In Africa, we see a catch up in the demand for products with an increase in volume. but margin are under pressure. This is the outcome of two reasons which Mark has already mentioned. First reason is the oil price decrease over the quarter in a very volatile context, which has led to inventory depreciation in Africa. And the fact that the prices are very regulated in this area leads us to adjust our prices based on the price of the previous month. So that's the reason why the effect was more important in this part of the globe. The second effect is the Kenyan pricing formula, which was defined in 2018 and which is now completely out of date and needs to be updated to reflect the increase in the different costs along the value chain. The EPRA, Energy and Petroleum Regulation Authority, has ordered a report which is called COSOP, Cost of Service Study in the Supply of Petroleum Products, which was supposed to be issued mid-year and give way to the adjustment of the pricing formula. The issuance of this report has been slightly delayed and was submitted to the EPRA last week. And the industry is waiting for the outcome and for the subsequent adjustment of the pricing formula. Now, if you look at the bitumen business, volume is increasing by 18%. This is underpinned by South Africa, which is very dynamic. Nigeria continues to suffer. Togo and Cameroon are still showing a good performance. Just to give you a bit of history in terms of margins, Nigeria is a country with very high margins. And the fact that Nigeria is decreasing to the benefit of South Africa, where margins are a bit lower, decreases mechanically the global picture of unit margins on the bitumen side. Now turning to support and services, I will not stay too long on that topic because Mark has already mentioned this before, but 2023 was very good for the Caribbean activity in the support and services and this continued in 2024. 2023 was also a moment where the freight rates were very high and what we see now in 2024 is that the bitumen trading activity is decreasing as demand in North America is shrinking. Now, if you look at Photosol, you can see that the assets in operation and the sales have grown over the quarter. This is perfectly in line with what we have announced during the Photosol day in September. The secured portfolio is now over one gigawatt. And if you wonder why the sales only grew by 6% while the assets in operation grew by 22%, you need to remember that Q3 2023 had the benefit of selling part of its electricity production directly to the market at merchandise. I will now hand over to Mark who will lead you through the updated guidance.

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Marc Jekyll
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Clémence. As a conclusion and to summarize, this quarter was one of strong volume growth with an undeniable pressure on margins, driven by the high volatility of the oil prices combined with specific operational headwinds. I would like to highlight the fact that the effect we are mentioning on oil prices fluctuation is short-term. Going forward, if and when the product prices will go up, we will be more profitable and offset the shortfall observed over the month of September. If the product prices remain the same area, the heat of the month will not be offset straight away, but this could have eventually a positive impact on consumption because when because of the products are cheaper. Actually, people have a tendency to consume more. In the context of very volatile international prices, this is very hard to predict. And this is the rationale behind the revision of our guidance together with the bitumen training update and the pricing formula issue or delay we have in Kenya. Thank you for your attention, and now we are ready to take your questions.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Thank you, sir. As a reminder, to ask a question over the phone, please signal by pressing star 1. And please make sure the mute function on your phone is switched off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. You may also submit your questions via the webcast. And our first question comes from Jean-Luc Romain from CIC Market Solutions. Please go ahead.

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Jean-Luc Romain
Analyst, CIC Market Solutions

good evening a question on the turnover for renewable electricity in in order to understand very well the movements here could you uh detail how much kind of megawatt hours were sold and the average selling price in this quarter compared to last year to to kind of have a better vision of the impact of the starting PSAs.

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Clémence Mignon du Perrault
Head of Investor Relations

Thank you, Jean-Luc. The electricity production for Q3 2024 was 166 gigawatt hours. I'm not sure I perfectly caught the second part of your questions.

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Jean-Luc Romain
Analyst, CIC Market Solutions

via the average price of electricity sold last. Well, compared to this quarter, I understand this quarter has more PPA and last year had more pre contract pre contractual sales.

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Clémence Mignon du Perrault
Head of Investor Relations

And then As you might remember, corporate PPAs and also CRE contracts are 20 to 25 year contracts. So the average price is overall aligned with what was in place last year. And what happened last year was that we were able to sell part of the electricity at merchant price. That was the mechanism that was put in place by the Creux to offset the beginning of the contract which had not had this inflation adjustment component. We were able to sell electricity for 18 months at market price.

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Jean-Luc Romain
Analyst, CIC Market Solutions

Is that interesting? This quarter you had 1066 megawatt hours and last year it was 167. Okay, it was exactly the same quantity of gigawatt hours, more or less. Yes, thank you.

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Marc Jekyll
Chief Financial Officer

And Jean-Luc, maybe in addition to quantify the effect of the spot effect in 2023, it was amounting to 2.2 million euros last year at the same time.

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Jean-Luc Romain
Analyst, CIC Market Solutions

Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question over the phone, please signal by pressing star 1. We will pause for just a moment to allow you to signal. Again, it is star 1 to ask a question.

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Clémence Mignon du Perrault
Head of Investor Relations

We have a question online from Emmanuel Matou, which I will read and then we will answer these questions. Emmanuel's question is, what are the conclusions of the report you mentioned in Kenya that was submitted to the authorities? Are you confident that the pricing formula will change in the near future in that country?

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Marc Jekyll
Chief Financial Officer

Emmanuel, this is a point in which Clément has already elaborated. During a speech, you know the pricing formula has not changed since 2018 and this is something that is when known in the industry and this is a discussion that has been ongoing for a while and actually major milestones you know have been reached. Typically, the cost of state was key, so it means the cost of service study. It's a major milestone that didn't happen in the past. Today, the Energy and Petroleum Regulatory Authority in Kenya is reviewing this study. So definitely some milestones have happened. It took more time than expected, but we are confident that it will happen by the end of the year or eventually next year. We cannot, of course, commit on that, and we have already been disappointed, but we see some good movement there.

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Clémence Mignon du Perrault
Head of Investor Relations

The second question from Emanuel was, why did you produce less electricity in Q3 despite more production capacities? The reason behind Emanuel is that there are several effects. The first one, if you look at the increase in operational capacities as such, you are right, they have increased compared to last year. Q3 2023 was not as sunny as a normal Q3, I would say. And as we had mentioned already during the photosol day and I think during our H1 results call is that we have suffered some damage on some underperforming panels in some older solar plants, which are under recourse with the different providers. And this is the main reason why the electricity production did not grow exactly in line with the capacities.

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Marc Jekyll
Chief Financial Officer

And also important to mention is this kind of small impacts actually when you look at a single quarter or the capacity with installation with 500 megawatts installed, you know, of course, it's very sensitive to those kind of elements. Of course, when the business will grow, we will absorb those pumps, you know, more easily.

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Clémence Mignon du Perrault
Head of Investor Relations

maybe we can take the question from August who is on the line on the phone yeah hello do you hear me

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Operator
Conference Operator

Yes, we can hear you.

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Auguste
Analyst

Please go ahead with the question. So yeah, my question is, so this year your net income will be artificially high thanks to the effect of the divestment of Ruby Terminal, so for a bit more than 80 million euros. So given that this effect will not be present next year, should we expect a drop in net income for 2025? Thanks.

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Marc Jekyll
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you for your question, Auguste. First of all, it is a bit early to talk about 2025, of course. However, maybe what we can say about 2024 is that, you know, the year has been impeded by few elements like what we mentioned in H1 about the compensations related items IFRS 2 which were way higher than historically also what you saw in the margin pressure in Kenya is not how we see the business going forward. And the inventory effect following the volatility and the oil price also is not something we expect to see again. This is what I can tell you about 2025. In addition, keep in mind that Ruby is looking for M&A targets and wants to be active on this side. It doesn't mean we have something in the past, but this is something you have to consider as well. And this is what I can tell you about 2025 at this stage. But, you know, based on the account of 2024, we provide you with a more detailed guide.

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Auguste
Analyst

And just if I may, a second question. So you expect the net income for next year to be mainly driven by M&A or easier comps rather than the growth of your existing activities?

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Marc Jekyll
Chief Financial Officer

No. What I'm telling here is that we see both, actually, possibilities. So first, again, 2024. had a lot of negative effect that we mentioned. But my point was to say that we were looking for many opportunities that it could be an upside in the future. OK. We have a question.

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Clémence Mignon du Perrault
Head of Investor Relations

Please go ahead. from who is asking, can you quantify the various effects of the decline in the unit margin, in particular the inventory effect? The second question was about the pricing formula in Kenya, but I think we already covered this point with Emmanuel's question.

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Marc Jekyll
Chief Financial Officer

what we can say the decrease in our price is not the only reason that the EBITDA guidance done great, of course. The volatility of the swing is the key factor and quantifying the impact on our inventory for today and the rest of the year is Adr Adr Adr Adr Adr Adr

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Clémence Mignon du Perrault
Head of Investor Relations

And yeah, we have another question online from Thomas Treeter, who is asking about the drivers of the strong performance of bitumen in South Africa. South Africa is a market we have penetrated with bitumen maybe two years ago. At the time we did not have any specific storage facilities, so we needed to rent storage facilities to feed the market there. And we were only using our vessels. It was more difficult to address this market. Since 2023 and 2024, we have acquired a few tanks in different houses along the coast of South Africa. And we are now ready to address the market, which is a growing market where they have an important need for infrastructure. And the road contractors who are mainly multinational companies are very confident in doing business with us. This is the strength of Rubis in the whole bitumen distribution business because we're able to guarantee the sourcing of the bitumen of the products. which is a stronger guarantee for potentially European or other listed companies. And we are also able to deliver the product hot, which is not necessarily the case of our competitors who are delivering barrels of bitumen, which need to be heated to be able to use them. So that's our key competitive advantages in the bitumen business, and that's why the South African market, which is a recent one for us, is growing quite significantly.

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Marc Jekyll
Chief Financial Officer

And I take the opportunity of this question as well, maybe to come back on August's point about the net income for next year. I was referring to, of course, compensating the one-off of 2024 to improve the performance of 2025. I was referring to M&A, but also when I talk about M&A, you know, I include also some, eventually, some geographic diversification in the bitumen business, because this is something we know how to do, and Clémence just mentioned it, you know, we may have other opportunities in other countries. And of course, this is something that we look at. But too early to talk about it or too early to commit about anything that is for sure. But for sure, this is part of the cause driver.

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Operator
Conference Operator

It appears there are currently no further questions on the phone and no further questions on the webcast. With this, I'd like to hand the call back over to our host for any additional closing remarks.

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Marc Jekyll
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you. Thank you for your time. We are very happy to have the discussion with you. Please feel really free to call us should you have Any follow-up questions or if you need any clarification, we'd be more than happy to answer to your questions. And we wish you a very good evening.

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Clémence Mignon du Perrault
Head of Investor Relations

Thanks a lot to you all.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. Ladies and gentlemen, you may now disconnect.

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