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It's time for us to start Tokyo Electric's financial announcement for the first quarter of fiscal year ending March 2026. Thank you very much for joining us today despite your busy schedule. I'm Yatsuda of IR department serving as a moderator for today's session. Let me introduce today's attendees. Toshiki Kawai, Representative Director, President and CEO. I am Kawai. Thank you very much. Next, Hiroshi Kawamoto, Senior Vice President, General Manager, Division Officer of Finance Division. I am Kawamoto. Thank you very much for joining us today. Before starting the presentations, let me explain the flow of today's session. First of all, Kawamoto and Kawai will make presentations. After that, until 6.30 p.m. Japan time, we will have a question and answer session where we entertain questions from the audience. This meeting uses two channels of WebEx for the simultaneous interpretation between Japanese and English. As we explained in our email, you are kindly requested to use apps on PCs or mobile terminals if you plan to ask questions. But if you are not going to ask questions, you can use telephones. Since this conference is intended for institutional investors and analysts, we'd like to appreciate your understanding that we receive questions only from institutional investors and analysts as usual. We will post the audio contents of this conference in Japanese and English on our website within a couple of days. It would be appreciated if you could also visit our website. Now, Mr. Kawamoto will present the consolidated financial summary. Kawamoto-san, please. Good afternoon. I am Kawamoto, Finance Division. I'd like to present the consolidated financial summary of the first quarter of the fiscal year ending March 2026. This slide shows the quarterly financial summary. I will mainly refer to the figures in the blue box. In the first quarter, we generated net sales of 549.5 billion yen, 16.1% decrease from the previous quarter, partially because of temporary post of customers' capital investments. Gross profit was 253.9 billion yen, 18.2% decline from the previous quarter. Gross profit margin was 46.2%, 1.2 percentage point drop quarter over quarter due to the increased ratio of fixed costs along with the decrease of net sales operating income as 144.6 billion yen 21.3 percent drop from the previous quarter operating profit margin was 26.3 percent declined by 1.7 percentage point quarter of a quarter mainly due to the decrease of gross profit margin mentioned before income before income taxes decreased by 17.9% to 151.9 billion yen. Net income attributable to owners or parents was 117.8 billion yen, 17.6% decline from the previous quarter. Capital expenditures in the first quarter were 52.8 billion yen, consisting mainly of the new development building of Tokyo Restaurant Miyagi, whose construction was completed in April. This is a graphic representation of the financial summary shown on the previous slide on the chronological basis for your reference. This slide shows net sales by region. As for composition in the first quarter, proportion of Japan rose by 3.6% to 11.7% quarter over quarter, while proportion of Korea dropped by 6.3% to 16.1% from the previous quarter. Proportion sales in China in the first quarter was 38.6%, remaining below 40% following the previous quarter. This shows SPE new equipment sales by application. In the first quarter, from the bottom of this chart, sales to non-memory customers accounted for 64%, non-volatile memory accounted for 10%, and DRAM accounted for 26%. Sales to non-memory customers were flat from the previous quarter, while proportion of sales to DRAM customers declined by 11 percentage point quarter over quarter, partly because of their intensive spendings in previous quarter. This slide shows the field solution sales. In the first quarter, field solution sales were ¥141.2 billion, growing by ¥2.2 billion quarter-over-quarter. Thanks to high utilization rate, mainly for the advance notice of the customer staff, sales of parts, service and modifications were all strong. This slide shows balance sheet. The total asset was 2 trillion 509.3 billion yen. Cash and cash equivalents were 367.5 billion yen, declining by 128.7 billion yen from the previous quarter, primarily due to dividend payment to shareholders and payment of income taxes. Notes and accounts receivable were 393.2 billion yen, decreasing by 92.3 billion yen quarter over quarter. Inventories were 757.1 billion yen, increasing by 7.9 billion yen from the previous quarter. Investment and other assets were 400.2 billion yen, increasing by 52.5 billion yen from the previous quarter, mainly because of the increased share price. For the liabilities and net assets shown on the right-hand side, liabilities were 636.5 billion yen decreasing by 134.1 billion yen from the previous quarter. This is mainly because of the decrease of income tax payable along with the payment in income taxes as I mentioned earlier. Net assets were 1,872.7 billion yen, rising by 17.5 billion yen quarter over quarter. The equity ratio was 74.0%. This shows cash flow. Cash inflow from operating activities in the first quarter was 74.9 billion yen. The cash outflow from the investment activities was 54.1 billion, mainly due to acquisition of fixed assets. The cash outflow from financing activities was 151.1 billion yen, primarily because of dividend payment. As a result, free cash flow was positive, 20.7 billion yen. This concludes my presentation. Thank you very much for your kind attention. Now, Mr. Kawai will talk about business environment and financial estimates. Tarzan, please. Go ahead. This is Kawai. Once again, thank you very much for joining us today. I will present business environment and financial estimates. As some changes were observed in the business environment, we have revised WFP market outlook and our financial estimates. So let me start. the revisions made and business progress as well. In the first quarter of fiscal 2026, both net sales and profit were almost in line with guidance. Progress of strategic product sales and development evaluation activities toward PO acquisition proceeded smoothly. For film deposition tool hunting a new material, namely low resistant metal, many non-customers are working on evaluation with our batch furnaces. For a series of 3D integration tools, including the Extreme Laser Laptop tool released in December 2024, we are currently having business discussion with advanced logic customers and non-customers. In April, construction of the new development building in Miyagi was completed, in which we will enhance development of Etras, one of our main products. Our financial estimate for the first half of fiscal 2026 remains unchanged. Specifically, we expect net sales of 1 trillion 150 billion yen, operating income of 288 billion yen, and operating profit margin of 25.0%. Calendar 2025, WP market proceeds almost as expected, although there are some shifts in investments. Factoring in impacts of exchange rate fluctuation, the WFP market is expected to grow slightly from the previous year to $115 billion. The outlook of semiconductor remains unchanged. The WFP market in the first half of C by 2026, however, is expected to be affected by changes of customers' investment trends. Specifically, customers now seek for higher productivity through yield enhancement, optimization of supply-demand balance to raise profitability, and shift from proactive to solid investment. Accordingly, we have revised the outlook of WFE market growth in the fiscal year ending March 2026 to negative 5% year-over-year. Changes in each segment are shown in this slide. Along with the downward revision of the fiscal year-based WFP market outlook, we have revised our FY2026 full-year financial estimate to net sales of 2,350,000,000 yen, an operating profit margin of 24.3%. Despite the downward revision, our gross profit is expected to exceed 1 trillion yen for two years in a row. Despite the changes of the WFP market outlook from January to June 2026, there is no change at all in powerful growing trend of the semiconductor demand supported by technology driver of AI server applications. Therefore, we plan to invest 295 billion yen to R&D almost as announced three months ago. This shows the revised SPE new equipment sales forecast. The SPE new equipment sales in the second half of this fiscal year are expected to grow slightly from the first half to 880 billion yen. Here is the breakdown by application. Please note that this revision is attributed mainly to the customer's manufacturing technology enhancement and their investment strategy changes and therefore it does not necessarily link with the semiconductor demand. As I said before, due to the changes in customer's investment trend, we are currently scrutinizing CI2026 WFE market. Having said that, however, there is no change in our outlook of semiconductor market, which keeps expanding driven by the growing demand of cutting-edge semiconductor plant to be released in calendar 2027 for AI servers. AI servers require high computing power to process massive data at high speed. Currently, two of the four nanometer node GPU are used. But in calendar 2027, four of three nanometer node GPU will be used. And in calendar 2027, each GPU will have 500 billion transistors, about 2.5 times more than the current GPU. The number of HPM will also increase. Memory capacity of HPM will increase by about four times. driven by device scaling of each DRAM and increase of number of DRAMs to be stacked. So we are finally shift from the gigabyte to terabyte era. Investment to realize the next generation AI computing platform expected to start growing from the second half of CY2026. With device scaling, advanced packaging, our business opportunities will be expanding more and more. This shows our plan for R&D expenses and capex. In this fiscal year, following the new development building in Miyagi whose construction was completed in April, construction of a new development building in Kumamoto and production and logistics center in Iwate is planned to be completed in this coming fall in Miyagi, we have also started Construction of new production building in June, which adopts next-generation smart manufacturing concept. R&D expenses in fiscal 2026 are expected to be 295 billion yen, as I said before. The plan for capex and depreciation remains unchanged, expected to be 240 billion yen and 86 billion yen respectively. This is my last slide showing the dividend forecast. Reflecting the revised financial estimate for the second half of this fiscal year, full-year dividend per share is expected to ¥485 in this fiscal year. While taking account of state of cash on hand and capital efficiency during this fiscal year, we will flexibly consider implementation of share repurchase. This concludes my presentation. Thank you very much for your kind attention. Now we will have question and answer session till 6.30 p.m. Japan time. You can ask questions either in Japanese or English, but our speakers on the Japanese channel, please allow us to take audio questions only in Japanese. If you ask a question in Japanese, please click the raise hand button on Webex. For details, please refer to the instructions attached to the invitation email. I will invite you one by one, our secretariat... We'll contact you in advance, so please check Webex chat box. When asking a question, please, you are kindly requested to unmute your microphone for yourself. When your question is answered by our attendees, please hit the raise hand button again to remove the raise hand signal. For questions in English, please use Webex chat box and give your affiliation, name and question in text and send it to our secretariat. We will refrain from answering questions if your name and affixation are not given. On the Japanese channel, we will translate your English question and I will read it out in Japanese and our speakers will answer in Japanese. On English channel, the question and answer will be simultaneously interpreted into English on a real-time basis. As we would like to take questions from as many participants as possible, we would like to take one question per person. If time allows, we will take additional questions. So the first question, from Yoshida-san from CLSA Securities. I am Yoshida from CLSA Securities. I have a question. 2025, you have revised the WFE market outlook. I want to see some information by application. So now you are now conservative for the first half of 2026. So based on the peripheral situation, I think the advanced foundry and the run might be increasing. So I was a bit surprised. So once again, so first half you said rather weak, but throughout the year for 2026, I think you said double-digit growth. So what happens in the full year? Forecast by application and the full market, please. By application, changes are made for logic inflammatory, the advanced logic inflammatory, Some of the customers have revised their investment plan for Logic Infantry. That's the reason why we have revised our outlook partially. For others, there have been no major changes. However, non-investment gets a bit weaker than expected. However, the non-investment will double. That's what I said before, but the original amount is not so much.

Therefore, the changes in non-investment does not have big impact. This is Kawai.

Let me add some more comments. The customers, now technology is enhanced and they try to review the supply-demand balance when they prepare the investment plan. And also they are shifting from the aggressive, proactive investment to the steady, solid investment to enhance performance. the yield, so there are several aspects. So from the first quarter, we saw there is some upward trend. However, there have been some deceleration in the customer spendings. So this trend, the demand for semiconductor does not decrease. Therefore, you can see recovery sometime in the future. from maybe the first six months next fiscal next calendar year might be some correction period however as i said earlier now new technologies for ai server will be released in the second half of 2027 therefore from the second half of 2026 to the early 2027 we think the customers capex will be increasing That's how we view the market trend. In that sense, I thought double digit growth is expected, but the first half of next year, we'll see some deceleration, but we have a lot of expectation for the increasing trend in the second half of next year, but we are now scrutinizing the situation. But we think the positive growth is expected. So the advanced logic, And logic, the proportion is about 50% to 50% for this year. The next year should be 60% to 40%. That's how we view the proportion. Thank you very much. Let me get some clarification. 2026, calendar year 2026. Although this is positive growth, but you are now revising the figure, scrutinizing figures. Therefore, you will give us more. You said proportion between the advanced and logic. Are you talking about the proportion between the advanced and mature node? This year, 50 to 50, but next year, that proportion will become 60 to 40. That's correct. 2027 we can see new technology for ai server as i said earlier in my presentation that would be a driver that's one thing also now ddr4 and ddr5 price has been reversed because of that there are some corrections in the market ddr5 will become a driver to further grow the WFI market. For HAI technology, NPU will be introduced and die size will be increased by 30% as well. So these are the technology drivers which will have the big impact from late 2026 to the early 2027. So customers' enhancement of technology for production, and they are focusing on profitability. So they do have now healthy growth plan. Because of that, there are some desolation in the investment plan, but by and large, there might be the delay of six months, and that six-month delay has been incorporated. And there have been no changes in device market. I think device market will be growing as expected. Thank you very much. That's very clear. Mr. Yoshida, thank you very much for your question. Next question is from Mr. Wadaki, the Morgan Stanley, UFG Securities, Research Japan. First of all, About the downward revision, I think it's a kind of plateau, so I understand the downward revision. I have a question regarding China. In general, in your company, so companies on entity list will not be conducted at all, or as for you don't sell HR some product, but you are selling other product to the customers, Chinese customers on the entity list. Could you explain the situation, please?

Our company is not affected by the entity list.

We are shipping the tools approved by the Japanese government, Meiti. So we are following the So your company, products, for example, the products on the entity list, roughly how much percentage of your products are related to the entity list? And how much percentage are not related to entity? More critical equipment are to be regulated, that's the natural trend. Therefore, it's not the volume-based or amount-based, it's a bit difficult to say. but to some extent there are some equipment we are not allowed to ship over the past few years but clear figures or numbers cannot be disclosed in this meeting so we are following metis policy and metis rule So now the revision of financial estimate is not attributed to the export control.

So what about more than 50% or less than 50%?

The way below 50%. So more than 10% of your products are affected by the regulations. We haven't calculated the percentage. I'm sorry for that. Thank you very much. Mr. Wadaki, thank you very much for your question. Next question is from Mr. Nakamura of Goldman Sachs Japan. Mr. Nakamura, please. Thank you very much. This is Nakamura. Thank you. So the second half of your fiscal year, now you have made the downward revision. I want to know more about that downward revision. WFE market for calendar 2025. So there have been no major changes, but you have revised your outlook downward. That means... In the market, your market share has been declining. Is that what you mean? Or there have been drastic change for the outlook of January to March 2026 over the past three months? On page 13, you can see several factors related to the downward revision. So when you quantify those factors, which factor plays the If the customer's productivity goes up, even if the semiconductor market will grow, I'm afraid the S&P industry cannot enjoy good business. Could you explain those things, please? First of all, could you repeat the first question once again, please? Okay. The calendar 2025... WFP market does not change so much while your financial estimate has been revised downward. Why does it happen? Thank you very much. This time, WFP market on the calendar basis should be $115 billion. So the WFP market outlook is increased. But because of the exchange rate, the equipment produced in Japan, when they are calculated on the dollar basis, actually increased by $3 billion. The remaining $2 billion is coming from the leading-edge logic, pulled-in investment. together with other reasons. That's the reason why we have increased the WFP market output by $5 billion. As for your second question, what you say is correct. So the fourth quarter, we think, so from January to March next fiscal year, we thought we can see increasing growth from the January to March 2026. That's our previous However, because of the changes in the customer strategy where they are trying to improve productivity and they try to focus on productivity now, actually our outlook has been revised downward. So impacts are shown on page 13. You asked me to quantify those factors. That's what you said in your question. There are five factors on page 13. The customer's investment revision for advanced logic. The reduction of the legacy investment by the emerging Chinese customers and investment plan change because of the focusing on the profitability and DDR4 and DDR5 So this is the order from the top towards the bottom. I think this is the order of the impact, especially the top three has the major impacts. When it comes to China, the emerging semiconductor manufacturers in China, that is about $2 billion on the basis of fiscal year. The impact is about 2 billion. So the Chinese emerging customers, maybe there are about 150 chip makers in China, and that 150 Chinese chip makers are getting a little bit conservative. And when we accumulate the figures, that is amounted to $2 billion. So five factors, and the top one is a major one. Primarily, there are three major reasons on the top for our downward revision. Thank you very much for your detailed explanation. Mr. Nakamura, thank you very much for your question. Next question is from Shimamoto-san from Okasan Securities. Thank you very much. I am Shimamoto Flamukasa on Securities. Thank you very much. I have some questions for figures. The very simple question, see why calendar year WFE, calendar 2025 WFE market used at $115 billion. This is the upward revision. On the FYI basis, also on the dollar basis, the minus or negative 5% is expected. Compared to this previous year, 5% increase on this calendar year basis, but minus 5% on the fiscal year basis. So three months difference makes that big difference. That's correct. So that's because of the outlook from January to March next year has been drastic changes, yes? We thought you can see some increasing trend from January to March, and we thought we need to do some preparation because in the technology driver, we were expecting increasing trend from January to March. However, there is only actually the decreasing trend from January to March this time. The fourth quarter of fiscal year, or cutting the year January to March, WFP market trend has been shifted or pushed out. We thought the WFP market will increase, but actually now it's devised to downward. When it comes to share, our share in the SEM, has been secured. Therefore, this is not negative or downward division because of the declining share. Each company made their own announcement. The timing of delivery or product mix are the reasons. Therefore, our share is not declined. I want to add this comment. I'm sorry, I answered to the previous question as well. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I have one follow-up question. When you look at full-year basis, there is a possibility for positive growth. That's what you said. But some projects have been pushed out. Is that how you view the market trend? Or... Some projects or some investment are canceled. How do you view the market situation? The semiconductor demand is expected growth toward next year. And that outlook hasn't changed at all. We have revised, downward revision. So one of the reason is the customers approach to enhance productivity by improving yield. And customers are more aware of profitability by balancing supply-demand more effectively, and they try to shift from the proactive, aggressive investment to the solid investment, especially among logic customers. So these are the major changes from our original previous outlook. When it comes to investment project, there had been no cancellation at all. So maybe the delay should be six months at maximum. Thank you very much. Thank you very much for your question, Mr. Shimamoto. Next question is Mr. Yamamoto of Mizuho Securities. I am Yamamoto from MISO for Securities. Can you hear me? Yes. Thank you. I have a very similar question. I'm sorry for that. So six months delay you referred to. But as for your company, the first half and second half sells by application. Could you give us some more information regarding the cells in the first and second half by application DRAM? You can see some declining figures, but actually DRAM cells from the first and second half, your cells will be increasing, and non-cells, you expect a drastic increase from the first and second half. half but actually it declined no memory you saw there is some increase from the first the second half but actually the non-memory cells remain flat so maybe for NAND deceleration is a major factor you said on page 13 you said the first three are the major factors, and I think the NAND is the number three factor, but actually when I look at figures, the amount is almost the same, but the change rate for NAND is rather big or significant. So could you explain those figures, please? I think there are some specific issues for Tokyo Electron. So Could you refer to page 15, please? Could you refer to page 15? On the left, you can see the sales by application for the second half of this fiscal year. The 880 billion yen on the right, you can see our announcement in April. the estimate announced April 1 trillion 100 billion yen and the height of the bar chart the change of the height of bar chart represents the changes or revision of our outlook the green portion back in the April the height of green bars. When you refer to the left-hand side, the second half of this fiscal year, there is no change in proportion. However, height of the green bar is decreased because of the changes of the strategy by some logic customers. Denounced, you can see reduction of purple portion 15% back in April. However, now we expect an 11% so you can see height of the purple portion. That represents the amount. You can see the data of the previous fiscal year. As you can see, the width or height of purple is more than last year when you look at this fiscal year's purple portion. so supply demand balance for NAND is well closely watched by NAND customer and NAND customer conducted some adjustment and we have incorporated that adjustment made by the NAND customers the first half of next year is a kind of correction period so there is some difference in between calendar and fiscal year but your company's new up equipment application sales might be reduced in the first half of next fiscal year. Is that correct understanding? Actually, toward 2 nanometer node, the customer investment plan, not only one company, I think more customers will present their investment plan toward 2 nanometer node. So we want to closely watch the situation. It's so difficult to find that right timing. Thank you very much. Mr. Yamamoto, thank you very much for your question. Next question is from Kamisaki-san from Tokai Tokyo Intelligence Laboratory. I am Kamisaki from Tokai Tokyo. I have a question regarding emerging Chinese chip makers. WP market assumption on calendar 2025, second half of calendar 2025, I think their investment is getting weaker. So for the first half of calendar 2026, do you think the further reduction is expected in the first half of the calendar 2026 among the Chinese emerging chip makers? So the annually is about 45 to 46 billion. I think that's the trend toward 2026. The legacy note market and the number of chip makers in China is rather big. There are so many emerging Chinese chip makers. I don't know the average It's a bit difficult for me to give you the answer, but the WFE in China, this year, $45 or $6 billion. I think the size of the WFE market remains unchanged. However, the entire WFE market is going up. Therefore, the proportion of legacy will be declining next calendar year. So for the new foundries, their yield has been improving and now you can see more and more new foundries. Do you think so or you don't see any new emerging foundries? So far there is no such trend. If the emerging chip makers' yield is improving, So the parts and service sales are expected to increase because their utilization rate goes up. However, so far we haven't seen such kind of trend. Thank you very much. Kanizaki-san, thank you very much for your question. The next question is given in English text, so let me read it out. The question is from Tammy Kisan of Verenberg Asset Management. The question is, what's the growth driver for second half 2026 regarding acceleration, please? then is your 2026 WFE estimation still unchanged? Also on China, has China spending bottomed after scaling back UHFC?

Or can it go down further? Three questions.

As for your first question, the growth driver, is AI server applications, the leading edge logic for AI server and HBM. When you refer to page 16 of the slide, As I said on page 16 of the slide, at present, the current device for AI server, four nanometer, two of the four nanometer node GPU are mounted right now, but in the future, three nanometer node GPU, four of them actually, will be mounted in the future in calendar 2027. Now, there are 200 billion transistors right now however in 2027 two years from now 500 billion transistors will be mounted as for hbm at present there are eight hbms for two gpu to generate the memory capacity of 288 gigabyte but in year 2027 the memory capacity will increase to the 16 DRAMs dies to be sucked and the number of layers will be increasing from 12 to 16. So these are the major driver. What was the second question? Yes, the second question is, is your 2026 WFE estimation still unchanged? So 2026 WFE market outlook is under investigation right now. There is some delay from January to March 2026, the second quarter from April to June 2026 when we can see some recovery trend. So we are now scrutinizing WFE market trend. in calendar 2026, and we are now scrutinizing the situation. But anyway, 2027, you can see the steady increasing investment for AI server, and I think the preparation for such new innovation will start from the second half of the 2026 WFP market is expected to grow in later 2026.

We want to analyze the situation more to come up with something more clear. The third question is regarding China.

From last year to this year, the WFE market in China has been Do you think the Chinese WFP market bottomed out or do you see some more decline in WFP market for DX and GX semiconductor demand for digital transformation and green transportation will be increasing steadily? And the Chinese customers' self-sufficiency in China is not yet fulfilled. in Chinese market. And at present, there are some struggle in power semiconductors. I think China proportion is in the middle of the 30% level. When WFE goes up, when it comes to amount, Chinese market is also expected to grow. So we don't see the further decline in Chinese W-3 market in the future. Thank you very much for your question. Next question is from Yoshioka-san from Nomura Securities. Thank you very much. I am Yoshioka from Nomura Securities. Can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you. So WFE market and tail growth potential. This is what I want to ask. First of all, FY26 or fiscal year ending March 2026, now you have made the downward division minus 5%. What was the figure three months ago announcement? And after that, after you tell me, what about this fiscal year? You said that Tokyo Electronics sales will decrease by 3%. That means your company outperformed the WFE market. But when it comes to the fiscal 2027, do you think you can outperform WFE market? Are there any difference between tailors' potential for growth and WFE market trend? So our mid-term management plan, 2027 is a target year of our mid-term management plan and product mix and timing of delivery so there is not consistent trend but when it comes to our earning power our company's earning power is getting stronger and stronger. So Gartner made announcement April this year for the share. When it comes to WFE market, the calendar year, the growth rate is 5.6%. And our company's growth rate was 23%. Therefore, especially our edge sales increased and quarter developer share is increased from 90% and further higher and 3D integration, bonda de bonda, actually our sales of bonda de bonda has been increased by three times over the past two years. So our earning power is getting stronger, steadily. Because of that, five years ago, our gross profit margin was 40%, but recently our gross profit margin has increased by about five percentage point. So the gross profit is exceeding one trillion yen for two years in a row. Needless to say, Regulations have some impact. High-value added product cannot be delivered to Chinese market, as Wadakisan said in his question. And geopolitical impacts and inflation impacts are also observed, but our gross profit exceeds one trillion yen for two years in a row and our gross profit margin has increased by 5% each point over the past five years and our share has been increasing so our share and profit growth both of those two factors are improving steadily despite of the geopolitical factors maybe next fiscal year we don't We will closely see whether we can achieve those figures, but it is clear that our earning power is improving steadily. Also, ROE, 30% or more. Last year, we achieved 30.3% ROE, so we achieved our mid-term management goal two years ahead of the target year. So if the sales come back, we are able to achieve... the figures or targets of mid-term management plan sometime in the future. And mid-term management plan is not the final goal. It's a kind of interim goal for us. So on the FY basis, we happen to disclose information of the WFE market on FY fiscal year basis. So thank you very much. So FY2027, WFA market growth and total electrons cells are almost comparable. Yes, of course, we won't be. won't be below the WFP market growth in fiscal 2027. I think we can outperform the WFP market also in the fiscal 2027. Thank you very much, Mr. Ishoka, for your question. Next question is Mr. Nakano Mio of Jefferies Japan Limited. Thank you very much. On page 13, I'm sorry, repeat the same question once again. I try to improve my understanding. So some leading edge logic customers are revising their CapEx plan. So you may not be able to talk about a specific customer. When you have three major customers, originally two logic customers didn't change their investment so much. In that sense, the active investment made by only one logic customer and that particular logic customer has changed their investment plan for January to March 2027. Or do you think the other two logic customers investment plan will be deferred rather more? It's a bit difficult to make that comment. I think your second option is more likely. So the capital efficiency improves for the one major logic customer and your business is rather getting smaller. No, that doesn't happen. January to March next year, it's six months ahead. And now you have revised your outlook. That means the changes in January to March is rather clear or realistic. So now various customers and some top management have been changed. The new top management issued a new policy or direction. And some customers' financial announcement are made and we have incorporated all those factors. And number four, HBM. HBM investment. And again, investment efficiency gets better and investment for HBM is not increasing so much. Or scaling of DDR5 improves investment efficiency. or only the matter of timing of investment. So semiconductor demand itself is growing. And toward year 2030, the semiconductor market is expected to grow to $1 billion. There is no change at all for this major trend. For 2027, the new device for server will be spreading furthermore. So there is no change in the growing trend of semiconductor market or demand. So in that sense, there have been no changes compared with the previous outlook, but customers technology, production technology is improved. Because of that, some revision were made. Our short time financial estimate has been revised downward and that portion has the negative impacts. However, on the other hand, the investment, actually customers are closely watch supply demand balance and customers are more focusing on profitability and they try to improve productivity and they are improving their yield so they can produce chips with low cost. So now for long-term perspective, these factors have positive impact to further drive the growth in mid and longer-term perspective because of the technology innovation. So as for the financial estimates, Maybe we might have some impact for six months, and there are some symptoms, and we try to address to the capital market properly. And because we become aware of this kind of trend, we decided to make this announcement. Thank you very much for your question, Mr. Nakano-myo. And this question is Mr. Shibano of Citigroup Global Markets Japan. Thank you very much for your presentation. I am Shibano of Citigroup Global Markets Japan. For the quarterly performance improvement or momentum for the further improvement of your financial performance, so the quarterly sales The fourth quarter should be the bottom. Is that correct understanding? And there is no quantitative disclosure, I understand that. When it comes to qualitative manner, in terms of orders, do you see some decreasing trend in orders? Let's say the July-September period should be the bottom period. Is that correct understanding? so the bottom period we should investigate scrutinize further more I think January March period is very close to the bottom we should study more to see what happens in what will happen in April to June that might be some delay by three months or six months but in the second half of 2027 We will see a new device for AI server. When you think about that new device, there is a possibility to have the sudden increase or growth in the market. So we also need to watch the enhancement of customers' yield. Thank you very much. You talked about mid-term management plan when you answered to the question of Mr. Yoshioka. I have one follow-up question. FY2027 is the target year of mid-term management plan. So six months ago, so maybe you said you can achieve the net sales of 3 trillion yen. and do you think there are some changes in that prospect or external environment has been changed over the past three years and not only the recent most recent changes but i think overall trend has been changed so we should would you like to refresh your ground targets or you don't think There is no need to revise the mid-term management plan. I think the approach to the fixed cost and investment has been changed. How do you view the current mid-term management plan? As I said a little bit earlier, so now you can see improvement of the gross profit margin and our share has been improving and new products. process of record POR or qualification by the customer has been acquired so there are quite a few good positive factors because of that so now there is a kind of delay by six months and we try to find out the magnitude of impacts but for mid-term management plan maybe fiscal 2027 or 2028. Ever since the announcement of our current mid-term management plan, there have been many changes in terms of geopolitics. But we are making steady progress in our business and we are keeping the investment for further growth in the future. And there is high expectation for further technology innovation. Therefore, we have no intention to revise our mid-term management plan. The only thing is the timing for achievement of mid-term management plan, which will be affected by WV market trend to some extent. But when WV market reaches a certain level, we are sure to achieve the targets. Thank you very much for your question. Actually, one more question. The question is from Varun Rajawansi from Lazard Asset Management. The question is, can you please make a comment on your market share excluding China? Are there areas where Tokyo Electron is losing share? Your sales outlook for this fiscal year is much worse versus what peers are suggesting. First of all, among different applications, the leading edge area, we don't lose shares in the advanced areas. Partially, in China, The general purpose were legacy node devices. Because of the Chinese government policy, the Chinese tool vendors are improving their share. That's true. Last year, WFP market analysis announced by Gartner The WFE market grew by 5.7% on average. Tokyo election grew by more than 23%. Despite weak yen, the growth rate of 23% or more is very outstanding. And actually three Chinese companies are among the top 20. and some of their sales growth rate is more than 40%. In the Chinese legacy market, our share in that Chinese legacy market has been declining slightly. However, when it comes to the volume zone for our further growth, that is cutting-edge technology area, we keep our share. Compared with our peers, there might be some strong negative impacts. Some companies may have stronger figures for share in this year. That is because of product mix and the timing of delivery. But in our existing markets, we don't lose our market share at all in the leading edge area. Thank you very much for your question. So it is time for us to close today's conference. Before closing, however, I'd like to make an announcement. Semicon West will be held in Phoenix, Arizona for three days from October 7th to 9th, 2025. On day one, October 7th, Tokyo Electron will organize fireside chat from one o'clock joined by Mr. Kawai, Mr. Akiyama, Mr. Ishida, and Mr. Sekiguchi. In this event, we plan to discuss our mid-term and long-term business opportunities and growth potential. If you go to Semicon West, please join us in this event. We will send you the details later. And lastly, we'd like to continually improve our IIR activities based on your precious feedback. So we would like to appreciate your kind cooperation in filling out the questionnaire before you exit the WebEx. 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