This conference call transcript was computer generated and almost certianly contains errors. This transcript is provided for information purposes only.EarningsCall, LLC makes no representation about the accuracy of the aforementioned transcript, and you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on the information provided by the transcript.

Vinci Sa Act
7/26/2024
Good morning to you all. Thanks for joining us for this presentation. For obvious logistical reasons, we are at Vinci's head office just next door to the Arena 92 where the olympic swimming events will be held as you know i'm joined by christian laberi as usual on stage we have the full executive committee and notably the bosses of our divisions who'll be available to take your questions later so we're Obviously, the sea is rougher. The fog is sometimes dense and, therefore, visibility more limited. But what is clear, as reflected by our H-1 performance, is that our ship is steady. We're riding the wave and the ship remains on course with calm and determination over the half. We're seeing an increase in revenue across our three business divisions, concessions, energy and construction, very good growth in EBIT and a limited decrease in net income in spite of of the inclusion of the new tax on long-distance transport infrastructure tax that we're combating. Major financial investments, Edinburgh Airport, acquisition of a minority 20% stake in Budapest Airport, a section of the Denver, Ring Road, Colorado, but Vinci Construction, good successes in North Africa, and the usual number about 15, 15 to be precise, small to medium-sized acquisition for Vinci Energies. Forward-looking investments lead to an increase of our net debt at the end of June. It dropped to a very low level at the end of 2023, and we maintain a very robust financial situation. And lastly, and this is very important, we're recording a new report. We are recording a new increase of order intake, bringing it to an historic high at over 67 billion euros. Geographies, we're continuing to extend our footprint, expanding outside France and focusing on areas offering good growth potential. We're barely present in China and North America where we were before, barely present 15 years ago, now accounts for 7% of our total business. That's about €5 billion full year. Central and Latin America are interesting areas, but on one condition, we need to be extremely prudent and selective. Europe's doing well. France is faring acceptably. Europe outside France particularly dynamic. Western Europe plus 13%. Africa is going through a strong destabilization phase across a number of countries. We've been there now for almost 80 years, if not slightly more, and so we've learned to adapt. That's to say to be able to leave certain countries when the conditions are no longer met to adapt. allow to operate in safe conditions, but whilst retaining the possibility of returning by being patient, the prime quality in Africa is patience. And then Asia, especially Oceania for us, is also very encouraging. For a few years now, we've achieved a fine breakthrough, and the area offers good prospects. The slight decrease that you see on slide number six is simply due to a phasing issue relating to major projects. Let's review our major businesses, Vinci Highways, which... As you know, suffered from the farm demonstrations earlier in the first half with a few disruptions here and there as recently in June at the Spanish border. All this coupled with not great weather conditions over the weekend. There's a 1% drop in traffic, minus 0.8% for light vehicles, and minus 2.3% for trucks. And as I said, we've taken into account the new tax way, $120 million not tax deductible, as you know, and we are challenging that together with our partners. highway peers, but also by our aviation peers. It's currently being reviewed by the Constitutional Council, and we expect feedback on that by mid-September. Very good airport situation, 150 million passengers managed, up 10% over 2023, but also up 1.5% as compared to the first half of 2019. So COVID is behind us. This growth is expressed across our 14 countries, 72 airports, with in particular... We're very satisfied with that, a very fine performance by the recently acquired airports, Budapest and Edinburgh. A couple of figures at Budapest, we're at plus 18% versus 2023 and over. plus 6.5% versus 2019. Edinburgh, plus 11%, the half versus 23%, and plus 4% versus 2019 levels. Lastly, we continue to... systematically roll out our environmental policy. Toulon Airport, the first to reach carbon net zero. Lyon Airport will follow in 2026 and our two new assets in Scotland and Hungary are already part of a systematic approach aimed at reaching net zero in Europe at least before 2030. The other highways, the Highlight is a major acquisition of a section of the Denver Ring Road in the U.S., Duration, robust regulation and great upside for operational financial results. Engineering and works order intake sharply up by 9% versus last year, the end of 2020. H1 2023 progress even at 14% of Vinci construction, knowing on the one hand of good performance of our flow business, but also thanks to the advent of major new contracts, such as, for example, the renewal of 800 railway tracks between 2030 in France, eight-year maintenance and improvement of roads contracts, the dismantling of two units in of nuclear power plant in Sweden or the extension construction of a drinking water facility in Cambodia. Those are a few examples. There are many others showing that Vinci construction, like, of course, and first and foremost, Vinci Energy and Cobra, is at the heart of the investments that are being made. linked to the environment both in France and outside France. Vinci Energy is faring very well, well-established across the three very dynamic long-term trends, energy efficiency, the energy transition, and its corollary, the gradual ramp-up of electricity and the energy mix and the digital revolution. activity is up 5% over the half in spite of a very high base effect in 2023. You see France is on this slide. We didn't want to complexify things with an increase in activity. Revenue up 3% versus the average 5%. But in fact, if you leave aside a very small business activity, of services to erase the electrical grid, which by definition fluctuates because it is essentially driven by production consumption needs of the grid. If you leave aside that very small business that is probably about, what, 100 million revenue in the first half, and you restate what France received, French growth was. Aside from that business, you land a plus 5%. That is something that is quite consistent with overall growth. Finchi Energy can afford to once again boost its operating margin by 20%, 7% versus 6.8% H123, which augurs well. And lastly... a flow of bolt-on acquisitions, 15s from the start of the year, with the same goal of completing our geographical footprint and our range of expertise. Vinci Energy is confirming itself year after year, is an extraordinary machine that has a great role to play in the development and digital transition thanks to its strategic positioning and thanks to its organizational model that's highly decentralized. That doesn't change the systematic quest for technological value added. Cobra's doing very well with revenue up 8%, 19% in Spain, which is absolutely remarkable, and minus 2% outside the South. Spain, that's the result of the phasing of a number of EPC projects, but also high selectivity, notably in Latin America. The EBIT margin is also up by 30 basis points at 7.8% on the half. Next, just a quick focus question. on the basis of information that you'll find on page 91 of the booklet, that's a chart that just summarizes Cobra's successes of the ACDC offshore conversion station since the integration of Cobra in Vinci Group early 2002. It's almost 14 gigawatts of orders that were booked by our consortium with Siemens Energy Group solely to service Germany. That means that we're only at the beginning of this wave. Other countries will follow suit. France is beginning to do so, but a great many countries will be developing offshore wind power. A lot of things are happening in offshore wind. We have an EPC posture that's very significant, thanks to our ability to... deliver the engineering, the construction and the laying of these ACDC converter platforms and what the share of Dragados Offshore, the Cobra unit that does it, that's about 10 billion euros in revenue to deliver by 2032 for Dragados Offshore. Just to illustrate the tremendous opportunity offered to us by the green transition, but also the EPC agility and expertise of Cobra IS. Still at Cobra, we're on track to develop renewable projects. I'll just remind you to develop 1.5 gigawatts per year. Just like to flag two points. Firstly, We're sometimes a bit slowed in our ability to move from ready to build to ready to produce, RTB to RTP. Why? Because connection with the grid can be done, but the go-ahead to connect in order to inject the power produced by our assets in the transmission and distribution networks is... running behind in certain countries simply because these grids haven't been bolstered and strengthened at the necessary pace to absorb all the new production capacity of these new renewable energy. So we have a stock that's coming out at the ready-to-build stage but can't move as fast as expected to ready-to-produce stage. It's of no serious consequence. It's going to normalize, but means that we don't have significantly sized assets that have entered production because there are problems. There's not a physical collection to the grid, but authorizations to... to distribute to the grid. Second major problem is that we acquired two projects with local developers in Texas. Texas is a major geography in the U.S. It's a power electrical island which has needs to roll out renewable assets even more significant than the rest of the country. We bought two projects from local developers, 250 megawatts total. We've continued to develop that, and we've just crossed a major milestone with the negotiation of a PPA with Google, probably to power the data centers. That's going to allow us to produce the financial package so as to plan for the beginning of a construction in the second half of the year. I noted because a year or two ago we said that we wanted to expand on renewable networks in the U.S. Well, we're currently getting there with those two projects representing significant... That's 250 megawatts. They're not small projects.
I'm now on page 14. Vinci construction also recorded growth of 2.5%, with France performing well at 4%. Obviously, in France, we are being slightly impacted by the decline in housing projects. But we're also heavily involved in rehabilitation, renovation, and projects, as well as in public building programs, particularly hospitals, as part of the Ségur government plan. In addition, whether in France or outside France, road works, which are usually pretty resilient, are progressing well. And as far as France is concerned, this is happening despite a negative calendar effect. Lots of weekends and vacation time getting in the way, and also poor weather conditions. For venture construction, outside France, business was up 1%, especially in specialty trades, but also in the U.K. and in the Americas. As I have already mentioned, order taken was excellent at over, rather at 14%. And via those acquisitions, we have strengthened our specialized civil engineering division, including Fresine, Ménard, Zoletange-Bachy, and others. We have a number of acquisitions. Also, we have strengthened our presence in North America for roads activities via two acquisitions. And when you add it all up, This accounts for a total of around 230 million euros in additional activity on a four-year basis. Lastly, as for the other businesses that I just referenced, our operating margin rose again by 10 bps. And again, this bodes well for the future. I would remind you that in the construction business, which is extremely seasonal because of the weather, the expected four-year margin is, of course, much higher than the margin at June 30th. Lastly, at Vinci Immobilier, Vinci Real Estate, We could settle for the fact that our housing bookings have surged by 36% over the whole year. One caveat, however, yes, of course, this is very good news, but this is mostly driven by bulk sales. And the big question is... The tremors we're starting to see, we were seeing before the National Assembly was disbanded. Will those tremors, will those low-intensity signs have been nipped in the bud by the current wait-and-see attitude on the part of the political community, which is not encouraging investors to move forward? So... It's a bit too early to tell, but what I'm saying is that we haven't yet seen the end of this deep crisis when it comes to production of housing in this country. Now, you may have read the headlines. Obviously, we embarked on a downsizing program at Vinci Immobilier. This program is now over. 140, 150 people have been affected. The program has proceeded to pace in excellent conditions, and many thanks to our teams for that. Handing over now to Christian Laberry. Thank you, Xavier. Hello, everyone. Let's discuss revenue. Despite a high base effect, because business was particularly buoyant last year, in the first half of last year, now despite this high base effect, sales continue to grow in H1, to varying degrees, obviously. So plus 4.4%, to almost $34 billion. So this trend bears out the dynamic performance of the group's three businesses, concessions, energy, and construction. I'm not going to get back to the underlying growth trends of our three businesses. Xavier has already done that. But regarding Vinci Immobilier, the 10% drop in sales is mostly ascribed to the decline in commercial property production, with one hopeful note. However, the near stability of Vinci Immobilier's business in Q2. Changes in the scope of consolidation added 0.5% to growth, representing some €160 million in additional sales over the half year, mainly at Vinci Energies. So 15 acquisitions in H1 2024 and 34 acquisitions in 2023, which are producing effects over the half year. Exchange rate fluctuations had an almost neutral impact on sales this half year. The positive effect of... Sterling rising against the euro has been offset by the fall of most of the other currencies in which our sales are denominated. Thank you very much. Let me remind you of the main markets in which we operate. We saw this in the previous slide, but we're talking over 3 billion in sales in the UK over the half year, over 2 billion in Germany. 2 billion in Spain, 1.5 billion in the U.S., nearly 2 billion in America, and a little over 1 billion in Australia and New Zealand. I won't list all the countries where the group operates, but it's worth noting Da Vinci now has a strong global presence with a wide range of countries. And this enables us to chart our course through a variety of different crises, be they financial crises, health-related or geopolitical, without too much trouble. So the proportion of sales generated outside France continues to grow year on year. This is the result of a long-standing strategy which combines organic growth and a policy of bolt-on acquisitions to increase... Our presence in our major markets, we're not trying to be everywhere. We're trying to get stronger wherever we already operate. So, next slide. Earnings before interest and tax, or ROPE, as we call it in-house, came to 3.9 billion, up 9%. Thank you very much. So, in concessions, Vinci Airport saw its EBIT rise by €227 million, crossing the symbolic threshold of €1 billion, a level never before achieved. And the EBIT over sales ratio thus reached almost 50%, compared with 44% in H1 2023. In addition to the effect of higher sales, which improved the coverage of fixed costs, this excellent performance shows operating expenses that are well under control. Now, I'd like to take this opportunity to report that after trading today, we will put online a toolbox, that's what it's called, to give you a little more color, a little more detailed information regarding our airport situation. In energy and construction, so Vinci Energies, Cobra IS and Vinci Construction, their EBIT also rose to record levels today. For Vinci Energy, this represents a margin of 7%, 20 basis points higher than in H1 2023, and all the business lines, activities, and geographic areas contributed to this great performance. On November 22, 2024, Vinci Energies will hold its Investor Day right here at our headquarters in Chicago. We will share with you our prospects, as we did last year for Cobra in Madrid. So 7.8% margin for Cobra IS, 30 basis points higher than last year. So our Spanish subsidiary continues to post strong sales growth, but has also succeeded in further improving its profitability, thanks to particularly efficient and rigorous business management. Vinci Construction operating margin is improving by 10 bps to 2.1%. I'd like to remind you that this does not reflect the performance expected for the entire year because of the high seasonal variations in some activities, notably roadworks and railways, and also certain geographies such as Central Europe and North America, including the U.S. and Canada region. Vinci Immobilier has a negative EBIT, which is apparently unchanged from last year. In actual fact, this factors in a restructuring plan to adjust overheads about €20 million, with a slightly positive impact over the whole year. Other items in the P&L. Next slide, please. I think I already talked about that last year. We're seeing an increase of the expense under IFRS 2. From an accounting point of view, this translates the employee benefits for employees that subscribe to Vinci Shares as part of a company savings plan. This is part of a change methodology that we've had to do under regulatory requirements, and this is offset by an improved contribution of our employees equity-accounted subsidiaries, thanks in particular to Kansai Airports in Japan, whose contribution returned to positive territory after the pandemic. Now, non-recurring items include a 72 million expense, which includes 50 million euros in the earn-out. That's what it's called, and this is reflected in the P&L. So in respect to the earn-out owed to ACS in connection with the development by Cobra IS of new renewable energy projects, remember there was an earn-out that depended on the gigawatts developed over the years, right? Now regarding our financial situation, net interest amounted to 554 million. Most of the difference, 167 million, corresponds to non-recurring income recorded last year following the restructuring of the debt used to acquire London Gatwick Airport. The balance is due mostly to changes in the scope of consolidation. So net interest expense remained pretty stable from one half to another because the increase in the cost of gross debt following the increase in interest rates, which had a full period effect last year, was largely offset by the improved yield of our cash flow investments, not just at headquarters, not just at the holding company level, but also in our various businesses. Now, regarding other financial items, we're seeing a charge of 44 million. This includes the ADP share price going down in our balance sheet because we have an obligation to post... That impact, depending on the number of shares out last year, there was a positive movement. This year, it's a negative movement because the ADP share has not performed very well in the first half, going down from 117 to 113 euros last year, versus last year, when it increased from 125 to 131 euros. Now, the tax charge rose. to almost 900 million euros, and this means an effective tax rate higher than 29% versus 27% last year, and this is the result of the fact that the levy on highways is not tax-deductible. Minority interests represent the share of earnings attributable to shareholders other than Vinci in companies which we do not hold, including Interim, Lana Gatwick, OMA, Cambodia, and Airport de Lyon. Because those improve our profit, the contribution goes to our shareholders increased as well. So still a pretty good performance. Consolidated income attributable owners of the hurricane to almost 2 million euros. When it comes to cash flow, Free cash flow generation is positive over the whole period, despite the impact of unfavorable seasonable variations at the start of the year. And this is a source of satisfaction for this first half. Free cash flow for the period stood at 360 million euros, close to its record for the first half. €381 million in H1 2021, even though we were penalized in H1 2024 by the freeway tax. So EBITDA, €5.7 billion, up €364 million. Vinci Airports contributes to 50% of the improved EBITDA. Vinci Construction and Vinci Energy and Cobra account for the other half. Changes to WCR income provisions, reduction negative with the first half of the year due to the seasonal nature of our business, is less negative than last year by about $600 million. And this is mostly due to COBRA because it cashed in a number of advances on major EPC projects that have already been referenced, particularly new offshore platforms in Europe. So those are two items, the improvement in EBITDA and the lower consumption of WCR, more than offset the increase in interest paid over the whole year. Like I said, last year there was... There was a 267 one-off inflow of cash and also the improvement in capex and also investments in concessions, which have increased by $200 million to over $800 million.
That's reflected at Cobra Vinci Airport. Turning now to new acquisitions, CAPEX, 5.7 billion, as mentioned, strategic developments of Vinci Airports and Vinci Highways. The prime goal, of course, is to enrich... our portfolio of concessions contract by booking very long-term contracts so as to grow the residual duration of our portfolios and the maturing of our inter-urban concessions at Vinci Highways. Vinci Airports invested 3.2 billion, Edinburgh, Budapest, Vinci Highways, 1.5 billion, I include the debt taken up in the assets acquired. In terms of expansion, Vinci Consensions and Energies continued. Vinci Consensions densified its presence in the U.S. and Quebec with companies that represent full year over 300 million in revenue, 230 in North America. Vinci Construction also continued to expand in the specialty businesses of Soletange-Ferrissine. Vinci Energy acquired 50 companies for annual revenue, 140 over 120 internationally. All that's reflected in the change in debt. Sharply up over the half, 7.2 gone from 16 billion to 23 billion annually. The variation over 12 months, only 1.5 billion. Debt is important, of course, but fully proportional to our ability not only to reimburse it, but to generate cash. Next slide gives you the perspective of 15 years. We see that cash generation at Vinci steadily grew over the period. Thank you very much. We need to remain modest and prudent because cash flow will be generated over the months in the second half right at the end of the year. We can't extrapolate this good performance in H1 because the key remains to be done. I won't say any more about that. The balance sheet is very strong. Vinci balance sheet, as you all know, we can continue to view our expansion with confidence. Capital employed topping $61 billion over 80% invested in non-recurring assets, that is long-term assets. Concessions and PPPs have grown strongly. It appeared $6.3 billion. That's resulting from Vinci airports, Vinci highways. Equity, $33.4 billion. Minorities, $23.4 net debt. Gross debt, close on $32 billion. And $8.5 cash debt that is fully sustainable in respect of a strong free cash flow generation. Turning to our financial policy, as we regularly restate, we attach great importance to equity. have liquidity available at all times. It's even true in these troubled times for individuals, for corporate. It's the price of independence, maneuverability to seize acquisition opportunities that arise that we're interested in, also to pick the right time to refinance given rate volatility that can be long-term trends. Thank you very much. Bank credit facility 6.5 reduced at no point having too much cost money and locked up capacity at our banking partners that need to be better used on other fronts. Rating, long-term credit rating, A-S and PA3 Moody's on change, stable, confirmed for many years now, very good relations with these two agencies with whom we meet regularly. This rating agency confidence reflects our diversification economic model, concessions contracting, geographic footprint, very diversified, cautious financial management. and we can but welcome that the quality of our management is thus recognized. So these conditions were able to refinance over the half under good conditions. In particular, we performed TAPs. That is, we were able to draw on existing loans over the counter opportunists for a total of 1.2 billion, an average rate that's quite good of revenue. 3.36 ASF reimbursed, a long-standing 600 million bond that matured with about 3.1, so it was offset in terms of cost. In terms of project financing, another component of the group's financial performance policy. The activity was busy in the Dominican Republic. A new loan successfully raised on the Aerodrome to refine its existing bonds that we set up at the time of the acquisition a few years back and also refinance a large part of the upfront fee that we paid out to obtain the 30-year concession under good conditions in dollars from North American investment funds. To end, a few words on the cost of debt. The final slide, as we know, we've seen strong increases the past few years following the end of the COVID crisis and resulting situation. We're seeing a leveling off of rates. We hope that will continue and that they even come down a bit, perhaps by the end of the year, in the various currencies that Thank you very much. Latin American, 7%. That's over 2 billion, 2.3. The costs are frequently double-digit, and so that impacts our total cost of debt. If we look at the end of the period, end of June versus end of the average cost of our financial debt was 472 end of June, slightly down versus the 480 end of December, thanks to the declining dollar and euro rates. We can hope that will continue. Thank you. Thank you, Christian. So just a few minutes to tell you a bit about how we today view the landing at the end of 2024 on the auto routes, the highways we indicated six months ago to expect traffic levels slightly up. We expect today... that traffic will be broadly stable, but of course we'll see clearer after the current summer period. Airports, as you can see, For three quarters now, traffic levels above 2019 levels. That will remain the case with, of course, differences across airports. In engineering and works, we're benefiting from a very strong order book. 13.8 months of... Average business allows us, and that's very important, it means we can remain both confident and highly selective and do a good job. The consequences that we're expecting, growth of energy, but of course, to a lesser proportion than that seen in 2023, with a slight improvement in the operating margin, what was always in the champion league at 7% last year. So we're set to improve it slightly this year. Growth slightly more significant of revenue at Cobra, with possibly slight increase in the operating margin. Of course, we continue to roll out our plans Offshore wind plants, finchy construction should be equal to the results in 2023 with there again a slight increase in the operating margin. So when we consolidate all that, what we can say is that we... We expect further growth in revenue and income in 2024, but less in percentage terms than in 2023. Net income that's impacted by the tax to the tune of some €280 million full year on the French highways. In spite of that tax, we expect net income that will move close to the level it reached last year. It's after taking into account all this that the board of directors of this group that met yesterday, interim dividend of 1.05 euros per share in spite of the slight decrease in net income that we've just set out. In conclusion, you're seeing once again, Vinci is a very solid company, highly diversified in terms of its businesses. Geography is very well prepared. positioned on the very compelling long-term trends of the energy transition. Digital revolution, very agile, extremely nimble-footed through its organization. That's the best way to weather crises and highly combative. So we're very well-equipped to continue on our path. of sustainable and long-term growth. And Pierron Jolras, who fully embodies the Vinci culture and who possesses extensive experience in the group, will be leading the group after our next shareholders' meeting in April 2025. That's what we wish to tell you before... giving you the floor for any questions if anything we said was not crystal clear. Thank you. So if you have a question or if you wish to make a comment, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. If you wish to withdraw your question, press star 2. Make sure that you're... The microphone is not muted when you ask your question. The first question comes to us from Eric Le Marie from CIC over to you. Yes. Good morning, gentlemen. Thank you for taking my question. I've got three. The first question, unless you have comments to make on the political risk in France concerning the current crisis, Political uncertainty, possible impact on your business, if you have further comments to make on the transport tax. That's the first question. Second question on EBIT, the holding line item that's positive this year, H1. It was negative in H1 2023, if you could give us some color on that. Thirdly, have you made progress to dispose of that you acquired when you acquired COBRA last year. Thanks, Eric, for those. It's not one question. It's systematically three questions that are asked regarding the political uncertainties. What we can say is that we're in businesses that benefit from a very long lag effect. It's obviously the case for concessions, but also engineering and works because of the scale of our order book. So if there are macroeconomic consequences stemming from, say, current political uncertainties, well, we could by feeling the effects of those, but that would be with a lag effect of several months, if not several years. So no visible impact today, so we're unable to give you any answer on that. The other notable point is in countries such as France, the countries such as France, the bulk of our... Business for the public sphere is for local municipalities, and so these local authorities, municipalities, and the second part of the electoral cycle that is rather in the face by the various political parties, leaders in the municipalities are beginning to resume works ahead of the next electoral process, which is generally favorable. We can't say much more, but I'll ask my colleagues to chip in if they wish to say anything about that. On the holding line, the ROPA, I've no idea the EBIT. Christian is bound to know. Well, perhaps I should know, given that it was raised in the notes that were released last year. Of course, previously we combined holding and real estate assets. I mean, there's no secret here. There's internal billings between the holding companies and the investors. So we could distribute this balance between the various divisions on a pro-router basis that we're not doing. But at this level, we have the impact, the integration of COBRA when we acquired COBRA and we did the PPE. all the accounting work to analyze the COBRA accounts and integrate them in Vinci. The goodwill was allocated to the COBRA order book, and so gradually as that order book is executed, we amortize that. It's reduced over the years.
You're reading a preview of the VCISF Q2 2024 earnings call.
Free account.