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Good morning and welcome to WEG's second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. I would like to highlight that simultaneous translation is available on the platform. To the end, click the interpretation button, globe icon, at the bottom of your screen. Please note that we are broadcasting this conference and a birthday of the author will be available on our investor relations website after the event. During the company's presentation, all participants will remain in listen-only mode. We will then open the floor to the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please click raise hand icon at the bottom of your screen to join the queue. When your name is called, a prompt will appear asking you to unmute your microphone. If you have more than one question, we kindly ask you that you should ask them all at once. 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Joining us today from Guarajara-Guaduçu are Andre Luis Rodrigues, Vice President of Finance and Administration, Andre Menegueti Salgueiro, Finance and Investor Relations Officer, and Felipe Skopel Hoffman, Investor Relations Manager. Mr. Andre Rodrigues, you may proceed, sir. Good morning, everyone. It's a pleasure to be with you and this earning call to discuss WEGS results. I'll start with the key figures for the quarter on slide 3, showing a slight decrease in net operating revenue of 0.6% when compared to the second quarter of 2025. Although the same effects that impacted revenue performance in the first quarter of 2026 are still present this quarter, we have managed to virtually neutralize this impact with the continued growth of revenues abroad. And speaking of those effects, the first effect on Brazil relates to the fact that we already had a significant order booked for centralized solar generation deliveries in the second quarter of 2025. When compared to the absence of these deliveries in the second quarter of 2006, this had a negative impact on revenue in the domestic market. Despite this, other businesses contributed positively to the quarter's result, with continued deliveries of transmission and distribution projects coupled with improved industrial activity. The second effect was related to the impact of exchange rate fluctuations during this period. which, for conversion purposes, reduced the growth of BRL, despite another quarter of good growth in local currencies in the main region. Industrial activities remained positive in our main market, particularly in segments such as oil and gas and ventilation and refrigeration systems. Furthermore, we continue to see a good volume of deliveries from the T&V business in North America, The EBITDA margin remained healthy, in line with our expectations, with a slight adjustment compared to the same period last year, ending the quarter at 21.8%. Our EBITDA reached 2.2 billion BRL, a decrease of 2.1% compared to the second quarter of 2025. Throughout the presentation, Andre Salgueiro will give more details about this point. And the ROIC, one of our main financial indicators, showed growth of 0.7% and ended the quarter at 33.6%, as we can see in more detail on the next slide. Our OIC remains healthy, growing compared to the second quarter of 2025, reinforcing the quality of our investments, the discipline in capital allocation, and the consistency of our long-term strategy. I now send the floor over to André Salgueiro Santino. Thank you, André. Good morning, everyone. On slide 5, I present the evolution of revenues in our business areas. In Brazil, The positive industrial activity with growth in demand for short-cycle equipment, such as low-voltage electric motors and gearbox reducers, spread across various sectors. Long-cycle equipment, such as high-voltage motors and automation panels, also showed sales growth, particularly in the paper and pulp segment, a result of the strong-order backlog built up in the recent quarters. Revenue continues to be impacted by the decline in solar generation business, mainly due to the lack of centralized generation projects in 2016. We continue to see positive performance in the business, driven by deliveries of large transformers and substations. The commercial motors and appliance area showed sales growth linked to relevant market segments such as And in paint and varnishes, demand remains strong, spread across different segments, with the oil and gas segment standing out. In the external market, demand for short-cycle industrial equipment remains positive in several operating regions, with particular emphasis on the strong performance in Europe and in the US, especially in the oil and gas segment. and ventilation and cooling systems for data centers. Good results were also seen in long-cycle equipment, such as high-voltage motors and automation panels, in addition to a healthy order intake contributing to the building of an order backlog for the coming quarters. In the GTD area, the T&D business presented another quarter with a good volume of deliveries. In opportunities related to strengthening the electrical grid infrastructure in the United States. In the power generation business, the marathon generator business in the US continues to perform well, in addition to the contribution of its European operations. In commercial motors and appliances, demand remains healthy in key regions, particularly in US operations, Although revenue growth was impacted by currency fluctuation when compared to the same period of the previous year. And lastly, in paints and varnishes, demand continues to grow, mainly due to the strong performance of operations in Mexico, as well as the contribution of heresy business. On slide 6, we show the evolution of EBITDA. The EBITDA margin remains positive, ending the quarter at 21.8%, supported by a favorable product mix, despite the challenges brought about by the rising cost of some raw materials, the effect of import tariffs in the United States, and the increase in personal expenses, mainly related to the execution of our strategy to expand our production capacity. On slide 7, We show the evolution of investments, which total 795 million ERL, out of which 45% were in Brazil and 55% abroad. In Brazil, we continue making investments to expand production capacity in T&T and the constant modernization of low-voltage electric motor factories. In addition to investments to increase the production capacity of large equipment in Jaraguá do Sul and abroad, there was a progress in investments in transformer factories in Mexico, Colombia and the United States, in addition to investments in expanding production capacity in China. With that, I finish my part and I give the floor back to Andre. On slide 8, and before we move on to the Q&A session, I would like to point out the following. At the end of April, FEG presented its 2025 Integrated Annual Report, highlighting advances in sustainability and showcasing the company's continued evolution in innovation and social environmental responsibility. Finally, I would like to talk a little about the outlook for the year. Demand remains positive abroad, coupled with strong orders for long cycle equipment, Both in the industrial segment and in the T&D business. Despite the challenges of the first half of the year, we remain confident in a more favorable scenario for the return of revenue growth for the remainder of the year, thanks to the strong performance of our businesses and also due to the normalization of the comparison base related to 2025. And finally, we are continuing to execute our investment package for the modernization and expansion of production capacity in 2026, supporting the company's strategy and continuous and sustainable growth. I end our presentation here. Now let's move to the Q&A session. We are now going to start the Q&A session. As a reminder, If you would like to ask a question, please click the raise hand icon at the bottom of your screen to join the queue. When your name is called, a prompt will appear asking you to unmute your microphone. Please unmute your microphone before asking your questions. We kindly ask that if you have multiple questions, you should ask them all at once. Starting our question session, our first question comes from Lucas from XP Investments. You may proceed, sir. Hello, good morning. Thank you very much for the space and questions. I have two topics I would like to approach, one for the short term and the other for longer term. Now, think about the tariff effects. Everything has been quite fluid, but I would like you to try to explain what was the difference of impact of the first and the second quarter, so that we understand the differences, and if the base scenario continues as it is today, And how can we think about the impact of the curve along the year? And I have a second question, thinking about the ramp-up of the new plants. How do you assess the timing of such investment maturation, especially talking about transformer plants? And how can we think about the profitability of those units? as they move on along its maturation process. Considering the production maturities, thinking about PROC methodology, how can we think about the leverage impacts? And also considering the beginning of the operations, how can we think about the margin during the maturation of the investments that are likely to bring this significant increase in revenues along 2026? These are the two points. Thank you. Lucas, Andre Rodrigues here. Thank you very much for the question. Let me start talking about the tariffs, thinking about the expectations and the comparison of the first and the second quarter. It's worth devoting some time to explain all the changes that happened and what this can cause to VEG. As of yesterday, On July 22nd, the Session 301 started to be valid at 25%. They are not cumulative. When we consider the 232 sessions, which were more specifically applied, that would affect the content of iron and copper on the products. And now it's applied to all the products. The scenario therapy and the products are vague. Well, how do they stand now? Brazil. In a simple way. Mexico is the section 231 for large transformers, and there is a differentiation above 10 MVA, 50% is applied in smaller companies, 10 MVA of 25%, and large-size motors, 25% in carriers. When we talk about large motors, we are talking about more than 200 HPs. It's important to remember that the overtax of 12.5% is being considered, also based on the Section 301. This is caused by allegations of forced labor and covers more than 60 countries, including Brazil. Brazil is included in the group, together with Japan, China, India, among other countries as well. The tariff is not likely to impact the products produced in Mexico, because this is according to MSCA in Mexico, and those products are produced there. And it's not clear yet if those tariffs, if the new tariffs will be cumulative to the others of the 2-3-2 session. If so, if this tariff is applied in a cumulative way The total tariff may reach 37%. But it's important to remember that, now answering part of your question, when we make the comparisons of the quarters, first and second quarter, then up to February this year, the tariff supply to Vargas products coming from Brazil stood at 50%. And we adopted several mitigation measures So, from 50, we moved to 10, but then we had the 2-3-2 that impacted the major light-sizer machines and equipment, and then it became 25%. Now, considering the constant changes in the tariff scenario, it's really hard to estimate now the impact for the long term, but it's It is correct to say that, maintaining the current territory, we are going to have an impact on the consolidated base of the company. Everybody here at WEG continues working to mitigate all those impacts, using the diversification of the footprint global of the company, re-evaluating the commercial strategy as necessary in order to have the mitigation. The major message is that we are going to continue evaluating the impact and During the battle to mitigate the effect, always in the search for maintaining the competitiveness of the egg. This is Salgueiro speaking now. In relation to rent-up of the factory, the question was more focused on T&D. And now going back a little in order to remember the history track, we announce the next And now, with the anticipation of Beijing in the middle of the year, we are likely to add more 10 or 15%, so that will amount to 25% of the original announced capacity. Now, in the middle of the year, we are going to have the available capacity already in the middle of the year, which is important to say, and the other 75% will be operational at the beginning of next year with a new factory in Mexico and another factory in Colombia. We'd like to remind you that those days are when the factories are going to be ready, and not necessarily is when we are going to be running 100%. or generating 100% of revenues. So we estimate that we will need a little bit longer in order to make the factory fully operational and be close to the optimized level of 100%. How long is it going to take? It will depend on each of the operations. And also, since the margin, how the margin is going to behave, it will depend on each operation. In practice, When we look at the T&D segment, which is running at a positive profitability, and the portfolio does not show any important downsides or downturn in this scenario. Of course, when we're in the process of ramp-up of the factory, it's just natural that you should have some costs, as we have already seen. And we even mentioned this in the previous call, there was an increase of personnel expense, because we are hiring more people. So there is a ramp-up. We may have some impact on the profitability. And why is it difficult to estimate? Because it depends on each individual plant. So methi is a factory that is being planted. So the process is likely to happen more quickly. When we talk about Mexico and Colombia, we're talking about a new factory. And the ramp-up should be quicker depending on the size of the transformer. Depending on the characteristics of each plant, we are going to have a different effect. We estimate that along 2027, and especially in 2028, we are going to be running those factories at very optimized capacity and profitability level as similar to the operations we run, T&D operations nowadays. Okay, thank you. That's very clear. Our next question comes from João Frisa. and Goldman Sachs. So, please, you may proceed.

Good morning, everyone.

Thank you very much for taking my question. My question is related to the tariffs still. Last year, you said that you increased price twice, one in the beginning of the year and the end of the year. The one in the last year was to reflect the tariffs. Since then, there has been a lot of fluctuations in the tariffs, so it may become 37%. But how have you been negotiating with your clients in terms of price adjustment abroad? This is the first question. And the second question is in relation to electronic equipment in Brazil, who have had a very good performance in this quarter, growing 60% year on year. So, I would like to understand if this was a result of the project that we had in the first quarter that is usually stronger but was weaker and then it moved the performance to the second quarter or is it an advance from the third quarter? Just for me to understand the dynamics down the road. So, let me go back and talk about tariffs. I have already entered the first part. In reality, it is a very complex exercise. When we approach this topic at value, because in fact it involves the production platform in the United States, a production platform in Mexico, and a production platform in Brazil and other countries as well. We also export others at a lower level. We also export products to the United States. Each case is evaluated with the client and we try to understand what happens with the variations of the price of commodities, for example, such as the case of inflation, as we mentioned in the previous call. All this is evaluated and we define our strategy according to the need, according to what's happening today in relation to the tariffs and also other points that cause variations, such as the price of commodities. So, in relation to the performance of equipment in Brazil, we saw an acceleration of the revenues in the second quarter, second half of the year, by the way. We saw an improvement spread across all the industry, especially for the demand of short-cycle equipment. But I would say that the effect, which is important to mention, and which is not usual is that we had the contribution from the long cycle equipment as we mentioned in the release. We saw a very positive performance of open paper in Brazil. So we have some projects in our portfolio, and in the second quarter we started the delivery of a very important project. And this is going to continue along the next quarters, and this is a project that will take some quarters for us to complete all the deliveries, and this contributes to the performance of the second quarter. In addition, there is another factor that we always keep in mind. We have the part of new businesses such as electric mobility. In spite of the fact that it is a small share when we compare it to the total revenues, when we compare it to the industrial equipment, we see that this is something that has been growing a lot, such as powertrain and also the recharge station. And this has been contributing to the stronger growth in industrial equipment in the second quarter. Okay, wonderful. That's very clear. Thank you. Our next question comes from Luisa Mussi, Banco Safra. Luisa, you may proceed.

Good morning. Thank you for the space.

We saw some positive impact on the line of expenses close to 25%. Could you provide some details about how this happened, if you can consider this as a level that is going to continue for the future? And in terms of price, you've mentioned tariff prices, but I would like to understand the dynamics of pricing of transformers in the United States. Considering the industry current scenario, how the prices of new contracts have been playing out? Thank you. Luisa, just confirm the first question because we couldn't hear your audio so clearly. So the question is about other operating revenues. Okay, yeah, that's right. Considering this group, we had some non-recurring effect in the first In the first quarter, as we mentioned in the call of the first quarter, in the second quarter we didn't have any non-recurring effect. In fact, when we look at the breakdown between expenses and revenues, the number is a bit above of what we usually see, but this was a result of some movements of assets in the company that were included in assets and also expenses. So, now the effect was almost nil. The important variation that we saw in this group in relation to the second quarter of last year was a lower expense with profit sharing and bonuses. And this reflects the lower result delivered in this period of the year. So there was nothing out of the usual, there was no non-recurring effect as we had experienced in the first quarter. So for profitability and recurring margin effect, We do not need to consider any adjustments for the numbers of the second quarter. We were talking about pricing. Nothing changed from the viewpoint of demand for transformers in North America and in general from all countries and considering the locations where we operate. This is something done project by project and as we have already mentioned, today what we are All the agreements that we have, we have parametric formats, and we evaluate what was the price of the copper, the steel, and the main component of the transformer. So this is evaluated on a case-by-case basis. And as we said a lot of time, It's different from the past when we had the more stronger growth of price, but this is not what we have seen now. But the level of pricing that we see today in the sector is a level which is very attractive, still very attractive. Right?

Oh, that's great.

Okay, thank you so much. Now continuing with the Q&A session, our next question comes from André Mazzini from Citi. Andre, you may go on.

Good morning, Rodrigues Salgueiro.

Thank you very much. It may be a follow-up, a bit different from pricing. You've noticed there's more pricing power with data thinker clients when compared to other clients. Data Center clients are appreciating the short lead time more than others, more than price itself.

And I would like to know if the product they are demanding is changing. Transformers.

Maybe there is a hyperscalers, scalers and the state solid transformers that has a technology which is probably newer since they are trying to find the resources to feed the data center. So the question is the type of product and also pricing for those clients.

Thank you.

Good morning, Salgueiro speaking. We have some level of exposure to data centers, as we mentioned previously, in some segments. Maybe those which are clearer to us are the sales of marathon alternators for energy backup, transformers that are used in the connection of data centers or grids, We started to see more demand in industrial equipment as well, especially for pumps and ventilation systems, for the cooling, refrigeration systems. But that does not sell directly to data center, so it's difficult to have this perception at the end, so to understand how the activity is behaving in terms of pricing. What we actually see is a very positive demand. And when we see this positive demand, and talking about transformers and longer cycle equipment, and it's not such a long cycle such as T&D, but anyway, the scenario of a precipitation is more favorable for the producers than the manufacturers. In relation to the changes of infrastructure, We have been accompanying all the discussion to understand what's going on. Basically, what's happening is the migration of the electrical structure into the data center. This is something which is likely to happen in the years to come. And then there would be some demand for different pieces of equipment from the ones that we provide nowadays. One of them is the state-of-the-art transformer. which is a transformer but it's much more likely an energy conversion is much more electronic than mechanic equipment as we understand the transformer to be nowadays and this has some implications for products and we also see some changes in the demand of equipment but in relations of breed and connection this is not something that's going to change And this is something we've been studying and accompanying, monitoring, but we have no visibility that any significant change will happen in the long term, because this is a piece of equipment that is still being developed by some players of the market, and it has not reached the commercial scale, and this is something that is likely to happen just in the future, within some years. Thank you, Salgueiro. Our next question comes from Alberto Valerio, UBS. Alberto, please, you may proceed. Good morning. Thank you for the opportunity. I would like to congratulate you on the result and on the improvement quarter on quarter. I have one question on my side. I remember that in the beginning of the year, no, at the end of last year, by the way, we were talking about the 25% of the revenues that you had were divided between the productions of the United States, Mexico, and Brazil. I would like to know how it stands today, and I would like to know if there has been any change in comparison. And the second one would be in relation to the rip-up of the team factories. I'd imagine that Mexico has advanced more, but if you could provide some details of when we could expect the revenues to start coming in, the 10 or 15 percent that will be ready in the middle of the year, that would help us for us to do the modeling for the end of the year. Thank you very much and congratulations again on the results. Alberto, let me start to answer your first question, and Salgueiro will add to the second question. It's important to say that WEG is evolving in different regions, and this share tends to change along the time. The closer vision to reality is the following. Everything that is related to the revenues in the United States, 33% is produced and sold in the United States, by our local companies and Brazil is has about 20 or 20 percent of all this related to something which is produced in Brazil and exported to the United States and this used to be more important such as 2024 which would stand at 30 percent one-third so when the tariffs started we decided to change to increase production in Mexico and also in the United States, and we can see the effects now. And Mexico is a country that is becoming ever more important in terms of supply. 41% is produced in Mexico and exported to the United States. And other countries, there's no share, accounting to 4%. So it shows that along the time the company has been prepared for all those movements in order to mitigate those possible effects of the terrorist. The point of the recovery of what has been taxed, we have been monitoring all the topics, we have been adopting all the measures with the competent authorities, but we do not have a time when this is going to be concluded and we will provide you with the update. In relation to Beijing, in the previous answer I said that the factory is being expanded and we are going to use the capacity, this additional capacity of this factory to generate revenue and there is going to be a ramp-up process. The machines there are very relevant, they are very large-sized equipment. So, if this is something that is going to help us gradually to add to our revenue, but we can expect more of this contribution along 2027. Thank you both. Our next question comes from Marcelo Mota with JP Morgan. You may proceed, Marcelo. Good morning.

Good morning. Can you hear me?

No, we can't. We can hear you now.

Okay, thank you.

I have two questions. The first is related to the working capital. There was a little increase in the receivables and also in the stock. I would like to understand how this happened. Okay, there are materials now that accelerate production was just an increase in raw materials. I would like to understand the lines and also a question about capex. Is that an expectation that to invest, that is an expectation to invest more than 3 billion for this year? So I would like to understand that the 3.6 are the amounts that are going to be invested for this year or is it going to be used also next year? Mota, in relation to working capital, it's important to say that depending on the quarter and if this can influence the We have had more share of the long cycle products in the production cycle, so we need more inventory in transit, so we may have an increase in inventories, and this can show changes quarter on quarter, but we look in the long term. and we compare the inventory levels, we see that nothing changed. We see that we are at the same level that we have been seeing in the last quarter. In relation to CapEx, we announced the capital budget of 3.6 billion and it's still valid. When we look at the half of the year, we have already completed 1.4. There has been an acceleration, and this historically happens, and there is a level of seasonality, and the capital is more concentrated in the second half of the year. So we continue with the initial plan in addition to all the investments in T&D that we have mentioned. whose investments are going to be completed this year and next year. In addition to that, we have other investments that is going to happen in Brazil, such as in Itajaí. We announced some investments in automation, but there's also the best factory that will start also to demand CapEx from this year. and also in Guadalupe factory for large-sized equipment. We also start to require more CapEx along the year. And in addition to modernization and expansion, that always happen other plants, such as the one in Lingard is instituted some. and when we look abroad we have Mexico that concentrates a very important part of this investment especially in paint and varnishes that we have already almost completed there and now there is an investment of T&D that is going to be completed in the beginning of next year and high voltage equipment in China that has to be considered that will happen this year We also have investments in Turkey and we also have some investments of T&D in the United States and Colombia. So we continue with all the planning going on and I would like to stress the vision of the opportunities that the company is always looking out for the years to come and we are getting ready to be active to use all those growth opportunities along the next years. Okay, perfect. Thank you, Salgueiro. Thank you, Rodrigues. Now continuing, our next person is from Rogério Araújo, Bank of America. Rogério, you may proceed. Hello, Andre, Salgueiro. Good morning. Congratulations on the results. I have questions on my side. One is to approach the moving parts that impact the margin. Some of them have already been discussed. But to confirm the reduction of tariffs from 50% to 10%, can you say how much it affected the quarter? Because I understand there is a time that has to elapse in order to have it happen. Half of the quarter, more or less, this is one of the points. And the second is related to margins. about the pass-through of prices. You mentioned that you would pass through the increase of copper, especially China, but not in the United States. How much has been applied in the second quarter and how much of carryover is still lagging? And I would also like to know about margin related to the rent-off of new plants. Is there a lot of cost to be included, especially in hiring new personnel? Is it already reflected in the second quarter? And in relation to the team, I believe that this POC methodology

and many more. Thank you very much.

But if we put all the moving parts together, is there a clear movement for you for the second half of the year? And my second question is related to the US transformer. We see that there was a drop of 27 year on year, even though there was an increase in GTD. I think this sounds like a trend for the last quarter. What could explain this? An anticipation of cost, anticipation of capacity, maybe a higher leverage? Thank you very much. Rogerio, let's try to get into all the points that you raised, which are all very pertinent. First, let's do the exercise of the tariffs, the impact that they cause on each quarter. It's always a very complex exercise. In the previous answer, We talked a little bit about the supply, what we sell to the United States, and it's not only the percentage, but it also depends on the product we're talking about. So this is a very complex exercise. So let's do a more detailed analysis of the margin. I think we can take into consideration what happened in the second quarter of this year in comparison to the first quarter, when we see an important evolution. Maybe compare to what happened in the second quarter of last year. I think this is the first message. The environment is extremely complicated from the geopolitical viewpoint. The supply chains are very stressed. There has been an increase in the price of commodities. And even so, we have been able to keep the margins at the high and stable margins. And that's the result of the work we've been doing. When we talk about margin, we have to remember that when we compare quarter on quarter, there are mixes that come to play. They may impact the margin on quarter. I believe that the product mix continues to be very favorable to us. Salgueiro mentioned the dynamics of long cycle equipment, which is very positive. and it helps in this regard and the contribution of renewables that also impact the profit. And when we talk of the comparisons of the first quarter of this year, it's important to mention that the growth of the revenue and how it came about improves the absorption of fixed costs, especially those related to personnel. The press press too also helps us in this process and also the reductions that happened in the tariffs also helped. And a lower volatility of the FX rate in the short term. These are all welcome. And when we talk about the period, the same period of the previous year, and we see some effects that repeated in relation to the first quarter that we have already explained. We could also mention the increase in personal expenses, which was driven by the larger number of employees, which was related to run top of the transformer factories. We have to hire and train people before production starts, and of course this is a process that is going to grow, the number of transformers will grow, and transformers especially the large ones you have to produce in line and you start producing and then the production comes as sequence and as we increase the production capacity costs will increase and also we have to consider the increase of price of raw material especially copper and also talking about the United States We also have mentioned that there has an impact of the 232, especially on transformers that go from Mexico to the United States, and the tariff increased. The United States is more focused on the increase of tariffs related to the 232. But as a reminder, what we're delivering this year are contracts that we developed, that we completed some years ago, when we didn't have any device developed of who would be responsible for the tariffs, and also considering all the cost increases that impact all those situations.

Thank you, Andre.

Could you let us know when the deliveries of Transformers of Mexico in the United States, when do they start to have that clause of terrorist pass-through, when this is going to materialize and when the effect will stop happening? and talking about U-Transformers, please. When the tariff started being applied, the clause started also to be applied, I think we are going to continue using those instructions with the clients still this year and still in the beginning of next year. This is the impact that we see of the 232. And also there was an increase of the increasing price of some raw materials. The prices are raising.

Okay, now it's clear.

I thought we were talking about margin, but it also impacts the U.S. transformer. Andre, thank you very much for the answer. That was very clear. Now continuing, the next question comes from Daniel Gasparete with Itaú BDA. Daniel, please, you may proceed. Good morning. Good morning, everyone. Thank you very much for the opportunity. I have two questions on my side. The first one is to understand your perception in relation to the growth expectations, and let's call We asked if that visibility of 10% above the digits that you were imagining in the beginning would be maintained. You said because of the effect fluctuations it was more difficult to reach. I would like to know if the perception changed or is maintained for the domestic and international market. How do you see all this? And my second question is a bit more for the medium term. We always say that Zagre grows a lot in environmental crisis. Even though we do not have an economic crisis, we have a lot of volatility at play. So I would like to understand how we see the environment, the competitive environment, the capacity to gain share, So, do you see the clients, as we saw during the pandemic, looking for other opportunities? How do you see this current environment? Hi, Gasparet, thank you. In relation to growth potential, we have to reinforce. We are growing in the international market and also in the local areas. And what we delivered in terms of growth in the international market in the first quarter and second quarter was totally in line with the initial expectation of growth of about two digits. And reminder, we grew in the second quarter in the local currency of Yelen 0.8%, 14.7% in dollars. and what has been becoming an obstacle and also when we talk about expectation in terms of profile and what would happen in the first and the second quarter is what has actually happened in relation to the comparison basis for the solar area. So now we are going to start in the more fair basis of comparisons and the effects, frustrations that is something we cannot control. We have a budget that is 5.59 in terms of effects. And what happened to effects today? Is it going to maintain at 5.5? So we moved from 5.59 that we had considered in its process to 5.58. And this is an appreciation of the value which is close to 9%. So, from the dynamic viewpoint, the viewpoint of business, we are showing that we are using good opportunities, and Salgueiro also mentioned that electric mobility starts to become something relevant to the company. Obviously, the sizes are different when compared to motors, but it has been showing along the years Those in terms of recharge stations and other areas, important business for the company. And we are always providing updates on new businesses that are coming up as we see them as good opportunities. And the main message that we would like to give is that just as we did with Transformers, we understood the moments beforehand and we got prepared for that, increasing capacity, Not only for transformers, but also energy storage and also large-size rotating machines. And in all those cases, we have already started way ahead with investments. In order to prepare VEG for those demands, which we believe to be very positive, and somehow they are already materialized in the company, and they are going to become ever bigger. So I believe that the message that I would like to give you is that we were impacted by the FX fluctuations, but abroad we continue growing. There is order intake, which is very favorable, and that provides support to everything that we had in the beginning of the year. And we will have to live with more appreciated FX rate and will generate fewer reels and less growth in relation to the expectations we had in the beginning of the year. Gasparet, in relation to the second point you mentioned, the possibility of VEG growing in moments of crisis, We are working here in order to be prepared to grow in any environment. Obviously, when we consider the business model that we always mention, where we have different competitive advantages such as scale and verticalization, this all helps us in adverse environments. But when the market is positive, as we see nowadays, As Andre mentioned, we see that the performance has been very solid especially in the international market in terms of demand and we also saw some recovery in the industrial area in Brazil so we see a lot of growth opportunities and we are prepared considering all the investments that we have been making in the last few years so that we can have the level of competitiveness and the adequate portfolio in order to take part and use all those opportunities. What we can say is that in spite of all those geopolitical issues, conflicts and tariffs, we see that we are in an industry which is very heated and with high demand for our products. And we observe this especially when we see the backlog intake and the order intake. Especially in GTD, and we are not only talking about T&D, but we are also talking about the Marathon Alternators, as we have been mentioning for some time. We have some positive and visibility for the future, so we keep on working in order to take all those opportunities.

Perfect. Have a good day.

Our next question comes from Lucas Marchiori with BTG Pactual. You may proceed, sir. Thank you. Two points I would like to mention very quickly. First, about the product mix, so that I can understand the margin dynamics. Could you talk about the breakdown of a long and short cycle, and if in the short cycle you saw an improvement in margin quarter on quarter? First quarter to second quarter, we saw the construction margin, the transformer margin. I would like to understand if there was any relevant improvement that would be worth mentioning for the short cycle that could commence. In the domestic GTD, after one year of the phase-out of renewable, tell me what is the new base of growth? Could you provide a breakdown of what is UD, what's renewable, what is still related to solar, so that we can understand this scenario? Thank you. Lucas, I'm going to answer the first question. You asked how we break down the revenues between long and short cycles in the second quarter. Short cycle, we accounted for 61% and 39% for the long cycle. This is something that has been varying along the time. And here also, oftentimes you ask, so GTD is going to become ever more relevant to VEG? Of course, when we look at the investments that we have been making, it may be like this, but we cannot forget that the other businesses also grow. It's not only in GTD that this is happening. Oh, let me democratize. In fact, it's T&D, this quarter specifically, and also for a long cycle was even higher than 39%. There is a bigger share of low-voltage electric motors. This is something where we continue growing. And a good performance of the sales of alternators that we acquire from Marathon. And we can see excellent opportunities for growth for the company and also for other companies. where we are devoting time and resources in order to continue growing. In relation to pricing of all this, especially for the short cycle, yes, this has been very positive, especially in the last few months. In case of GTD Brazil, in fact, we anticipated we are completing in the middle of the year the stronger comparison base that we had last year. When we talk about decentralized deliveries, there is still a remainder for the third quarter, but it's less relevant than what we saw in the first and the second quarter of last year. And after this effect has been adjusted, we are likely to see GTD Brazil growing. Why? Because T&D, which still continues growing We have also seen some growth. And then we have also to include other businesses related to energy, but that will depend on energy. But thermal energy will also contribute. And maybe because of the effect of the solar, it may not be as significant in the third quarter, but it's likely to grow along the next quarters. Okay, great. Thank you. Have a good day. Our next question comes from Daniel Fedele with Bradesco VDI. Daniel, please, you may proceed. Good morning, congratulations on the results and thank you very much for taking my questions. My first is relating to mix as well. You mentioned that one of the drivers was related to mix. I would like to understand how you qualify the mix of the second quarter. Is it a mix above average? Is it gonna get worse? Is it a mix in line with average and it's likely to be maintained? This is my first question. For the second quarter, We see some margin pressures from tariffs, with margins of tariffs from 25 to 37 and some hires in Mexico. What are the positive drivers that you see that will increase the margin for this period? And the second question is related to BES. What are the expectations of the company The auction increased the size, and you mentioned that there's an expectation of capturing 20%. I would like to know if it's still positive. And it seems that international companies are being attracted to Brazil. And how do you see of this capacity of best in Brazil? Daniel, good morning. In relation to mix, We have been committing that the mix has been very favorable in the last quarter, especially due to the reduction of renewables. So we had a significant reduction last year of the wind energy, and this half of the year there was a reduction of the solar, and the margin is a little below the Thank you very much for the question. Without a doubt we have good prospects. And as we said, we are getting ready in order to take part in the business. Generally speaking, for everything that is VAS, we have a gigahour of capacity, which is divided by mobility and VAS. And the new factory in Itajaí, which is going to be completed next year, will add two gigawatts in this process. So it's another example that we are getting ready and structured in order to meet the demands of the market. And since we are a partner of clients of everything that involves energy, without a doubt, we can have some positive attributes for this process when clients are selecting the supplier of the solution of energy storage for them. A reminder, it's not just the storage, but also the whole infrastructure behind all this, and that manufacturer Manifactors nearly everything. It's very comfortable to talk to just one supplier than talking to multiple suppliers that is not structured for this process. The fact that we are attracting more manufacturers is very positive, very good news, because it shows that that perspective is that the new opportunities will come up. If nobody had come to us, we would imagine that Good business opportunities wouldn't happen. We see this as something very positive. We see that our expectations have been confirmed and everybody is at the same level of a competition. So, we see all the scenario in a very competitive way, a positive way. Now, going back to the pressure of margin. You mentioned the downsides of the negative impacts that may happen. What we see on the other hand? We see an increase of the acceleration of the revenue growth, which tends to be very positive for profitability. And as you said, we have the run-up of the factory in Mexico, which may be a problem, but we have the expansion of Betim's factory, so theoretically this is going to help us along the second half of the year. And we also made all the movements related to prices and adjustments of the commercial strategy along the first half of the year. So, we will have this contribution seen along the second half of the year. Thank you very much. That was very clear.

This concludes our question and answer session.

As a reminder, if you have any additional questions, please feel free to send them to RR at WEG.net. I would now like to turn the call over to Andre Rodrigues for his closing remarks. Andre, please go ahead. Thank you very much for your participation. On our side, we would like to reinforce the invitation to take part on our WEG Day, which will take place on October 2nd. It will be a great opportunity for you to get updates on the opportunities at WEG. Thank you very much. I hope you have an excellent day. This concludes WEG's conference call. We thank everyone and have an excellent day, everyone.