8/6/2026

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Good morning. My name is Jenny, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to CAER's 2026 Second Quarter Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, then the number two. Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Dan Cuthbertson, General Manager of Investor Relations. You may begin.

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Dan Cuthbertson
General Manager of Investor Relations

Thanks, and good morning. Joining me today will be Dean Setoguchi, President and CEO, Eileen Marikar, Senior Vice President and CFO, Jamie Urquhart, Senior Vice President, Liquid Business Unit, and Brad Slessor, Senior Vice President, GMP, and MGL Pipeline Business Unit. We'll begin with some prepared remarks from Dean and Eileen, after which we will open the call to questions. I'd like to remind listeners that some of the comments and answers that we will give today relate to future events. These forward-looking statements are given as of today's date and reflect events or outcomes that management currently expects. In addition, we will refer to some non-GAAP financial measures. For additional information on non-GAAP measures and forward-looking statements, please refer to Ciara's public filings available on CDAR and our website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Dean.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Thanks, Dan, and good morning, everyone. This quarter, we successfully closed two strategic acquisitions, the Plains Canadian NGL business and the remaining 50% interest and caps. These acquisitions are part of a strong foundation we have assembled for the next phase of disciplined growth and long-term value creation. Our focus now turns to integrating these investments, executing our growth projects and delivering greater value to customers and shareholders. Our team is working hard on integrating the Plains business and continues to make meaningful progress on identifying and delivering synergies. We will continue to provide updates as that work progresses. After the quarter, CIRA also submitted its response to the Competition Tribunal regarding the Competition Bureau's notice of application. Because this is an ongoing litigation, we are limited in what we can say, but remain confident in the strength of our case and look forward to demonstrating the value creation that will result from this transaction. Turning to our quarterly results. In gathering processing, we delivered a new quarterly record for realized margin driven by strong contributions across the segment. We also set a new quarterly realized margin record in liquids infrastructure, reflecting contributions from the Plains Canadian NGL business. We continue to deliver and advance our growth projects. KFS for Activity Bottleneck was brought into service in early June more than one month ahead of schedule and 20% below its original budget. KFS Northy Bottleneck, KFS Rack 3, Cap Zone 4, and Ace Rail Terminal continue to progress well, all on time and on budget. These projects are highly contracted and will contribute to growth and stable fee-for-service cash flow, supporting the strength of our balance sheet, and long-term dividend sustainability. Yesterday, the Board approved another 4% annual increase in the dividend. Dividend increase reflects our confidence in the business and allows us to preserve our balance sheet strength and financial flexibility to invest in further fee-based growth. Now turning to AEF, the facility was restarted at the beginning of June and has been performing well. We continue to view this asset as an important part of our integrated value chain and a meaningful contributor to CARE's long-term value creation. During the outage, we completed a comprehensive review of the facility and its associated operating plan and have identified opportunities to strengthen performance and reliability. Our objective is to maximize iso-octane production over the full four-year cycle while maintaining our focus on safe, reliable and efficient operations. With that, I'll turn the call over to Eileen to discuss financial results and outlook.

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Eileen Marikar
Senior Vice President and CFO

Thanks, Dean, and good morning, everyone. CARA's second quarter results reflect continued strength in our fee-for-service business, which was offset by lower marketing contributions. Excluding transaction costs related to the plane's acquisition, adjusted EBITDA was $309 million and distributable cash flow was $101 million, or $0.39 per share. Net earnings for the quarter were $308 million. In our fee-for-service segments, gathering and processing delivered record quarterly realized margin of $128 million. In liquids infrastructure, we also delivered record realized margin of $222 million. Results included contributions from the Plains Canadian NGO assets and the CAPS acquisition. Turning to the marketing segment, realized margin was $36 million for the quarter. Decrease compared to last year was primarily attributable to the AEF outage and corresponding timing impacts related to risk management activities. The risk management timing impacts are expected to partly offset over the second half of 2026 as physical volumes are sold. Looking ahead, we continue to expect marketing to deliver strong contributions through the second half of the year, and we are reaffirming our 2026 realized margin guidance range of $360 million to $390 million. We ended the quarter with net debt to adjusted EBITDA of 3.3 times, above our long-term target range. The increase reflects higher net debt related to recent acquisitions and lower marketing contributions in the first half of 2026. We remain focused on deleveraging and returning to within our target range in 2028. remain on track to deliver a 16% to 18% fee-based adjusted EBITDA per share CAGR from 2025 to 2027, and a 7% to 8% fee-based adjusted EBITDA per share CAGR from 2027 to 2029. This growth outlook is underpinned by several clearly defined drivers, including our current synergy target of $120 million to $140 million, the continued filling of available and our portfolio of sanctioned growth capital projects. Beyond those drivers, we continue to see meaningful potential upside from additional synergies, further capacity optimization, our condensate system, additional caps contracting and capital efficient investment opportunities across the entire asset base. As our integration work progresses, we're encouraged by the additional value creation opportunities we've identified. were also identifying opportunities to further enhance reliability across the acquired assets, which may modestly increase maintenance capital requirements over the next couple of years as we continue to apply KIARA's operating standards. Lastly, KIARA's 2026 guidance for growth capital, maintenance capital, and cash taxes remain unchanged. With that, I'll turn it back to Dean for closing remarks.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Thanks, Eileen. KIARA continues to deliver its strategy Thank you for joining us today. Indigenous rights holders, and other stakeholders for their continued support. With that, we'll open the line for questions. Operator, please go ahead.

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. If you have a question, please press the star followed by the one on your touchstone phone. If you wish to cancel your request, you may press star two. Once again, that is star one should you wish to ask a question. and your first question is from Rob Hope from Scotiabank. Your line is now open.

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Rob Hope
Analyst, Scotiabank

Morning, everyone. First question is on the liquids infrastructure segment. So the $78 million of incremental contribution from planes was quite a bit higher than we were expecting as well as commentary when the deal was first announced. Can you maybe speak to the specific drivers of that strength, whether that can be annualized or where they're, we'll call it, abnormally high volumes in Q2?

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Good morning, Rob, and thank you very much for the question. I think the general comment that we'd like to emphasize here is that the Plains Canadian NGL business has been performing better than the way we originally modeled it and envisioned it. And, you know, that's right across the board from, you know, the Corp pipeline, the frac business in Fort Saskatchewan, and also Empress. The volumes have been strong and the extraction cuts there have been better than what we had modeled. So overall, the assets are performing and the business is performing very well. We're still getting up to speed obviously. It's been less than three months since we've taken over the operatorship of those assets. We see a lot of great opportunities across the portfolio that we're getting more details on and trying to prioritize and get at them as soon as we can. But I'd also like to caution that this is a partial quarter and I would say it's premature to try to extrapolate a whole year's and Eva Daw, based on a partial quarter right now. But generally, I want to emphasize that the business is performing very well.

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Rob Hope
Analyst, Scotiabank

I appreciate that. And then maybe moving over to your condensate assets, a key theme this quarter has been kind of the outlook for increasing condensate demand and supplies in Western Canada. Can you speak to how your business is positioned to handle an increasing condensate demand and what opportunities are you seeing?

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah, that's a great question. First of all, I'd just like to comment that we are extremely excited with the developments that we've seen here and the cooperation that we've seen from the BC and Alberta government and also the federal government. And with that, we feel a lot more optimistic that we're going to see a lot more pipeline egress out of the province, which is going to help more oil sands growth in the future. As you know, we have the hub for condensate and roughly two-thirds of all the condensate that goes up to oil sands for diluent originates off of our system. So when we think about the growth in oil sands production over the last couple, two to three years with Trans Mountain coming into service, we've seen that part of our business, our pipelines that receive the condensate and our storage business, and also are interested in Norlight Pipeline. Those volumes have been increasing very well and so that part of our business has been very, very strong. We anticipate more growth in the future with, again, more pipeline egress. So, you know, we certainly envision more capital efficiency bottlenecks on that system to continue to provide that service. But what I would say is that it is a tailwind for our entire business. because a lot of that condensate is also going to come from the liquids-rich Montney and also the Duvernay, for which we're very, very well positioned, both, I would say, in the Deep Basin and also up in the Montney Fairway up to the northwest in Alberta and also to BC. And I'd also like to emphasize, I mean, this is also part of the reason why we doubled down on CAPS because we believe this is going to be an essential... Thank you for joining us.

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Unknown

All right, appreciate the color.

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Thank you. Thank you. Your next question is from Robert Caudelier from CIBC. Your line is now open.

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Robert Caudelier
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Hey, good morning. I just wanted to follow up on the condensate discussion. You know, maybe you can give us a little bit more color on your capabilities to deliver from Edmonton up to the oil sands. And it looks like you're at contractual and others. The timing in particular I want to talk about just because as the oil sands gets going, it might take a while before production ramps to meet the pipeline or the other egress in service states.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah, that's a great question, Rob. And you know what? I'll turn that over to Jamie, and that's certainly part of his business and things that they're focusing on.

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Jamie Urquhart
Senior Vice President, Liquid Business Unit

Yeah, thanks for the question, Robert. And I think I alluded to this last quarter as well, is that we have a very well-defined sort of capital execution plan to basically increase the capacity of both the Fort Saskatchewan Conce system, but also working with our and our partner Enbridge on the Norlite pipeline. And those things can either be fairly quickly implemented like DRA, drag reducing agent or installing pump stations or even looping pipe for a segment of the pipeline where we can increase capacity. So we've identified all those. We believe that they're all very capital efficient as Dean alluded to. but also I'd like to emphasize that we are in conversations with all the AllSounds players with respect and making sure that we're in their minds and we're their solution as they think to expand maybe two, three, five, ten years out.

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Robert Caudelier
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Okay, so lots going on, so we'll wait and see there. I just want to touch on the frack spread. You gave your levels a proportion of hedging and you've chosen not to disclose the price, but presumably you're hedging at levels above your underwriting case. I'm just curious about the 27 level, the 65% of frack spread hedges at all from the hedge level you had coming into the Plains deal, so the levels that were in place at closing. or has there been incremental hedging since then? And just pricing relative to your underwriting assumptions.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah, Rob, those are great questions. And we have layered in incremental hedges both this year and next year. So as you know, we had a 12-month hedge in place already with planes. So it left us more exposed in the second half of 2027. and we've layered in a significant amount of hedges in the second half as well as topping up you know again the first half 27 and the rest of this year so you know we think that's important for a number of reasons one is the frac spreads have been very strong so well above our deal thesis and two as Eileen mentioned you know we're beyond our our stated range of where we'd like our balance sheet. We're still in a very comfortable range but we'd like to be in a more conservative range and this will ensure that we'll be able to deliver a balance sheet as I think described.

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Robert Caudelier
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Okay, last one for me is just that you're going to give an update I think on the synergies later in the year but with what you know now, what areas are most likely to generate additional opportunities? Is that going to come from The cost side or the commercial side?

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

I would say all of the above. We've already announced that we delivered 90 million of Synergies on day one, and we're still operating redundant systems and things like that. We weren't able to convert them all on day one. We still have G&A savings, I would say, yet to come. We have operating savings yet to come. Certainly synergies in maintenance and turnarounds as well. We've talked about logistics opportunities for more optimization there. And generally what we've seen across the board is there's been an underinvestment in the business. So we just see a lot of opportunities both to integrate our existing Kiara business and the business we just acquired, but also more growth opportunities, commercial opportunities on the planes assets that we acquired as well. So we're very optimistic about the upside we see. We also would also caution too that there will likely be a little bit more Maintenance costs in the first year, year and a half to two years, I would say. There are a few things that we would like to accelerate to get it to the operating standard that we like and to get to a steady state after that. But that initial maintenance cost that we might be exposed to, and we're still evaluating that, is very small relative to the upside prize that we see overall with the business.

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Robert Caudelier
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Okay, thank you, and congratulations on closing those two acquisitions.

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Unknown

Yeah, thanks a lot, Rob.

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Thank you. Your next question is from Benson from BMO. Your line is now open.

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Benson
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Hi, good morning. My first question is on acquisitions. You've now closed two major ones, the planes and the remaining caps, and I'm curious as you think Thank you, Ben. Those are great questions. I really want to emphasize that our focus right now is 100% on

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

on capturing the opportunities that we see both in the CAPS acquisition and also the Plains NGL business. And those opportunities are very significant in our mind, and we can deliver a lot of value for our customers and our shareholders for the visible future. And Eileen described the upside that we talked about, the 16 to 18% from 25 to 27, feed for service EBITDA growth, and then 7 to 8% out to 29. We see growth opportunities well beyond that, especially when you think about the macro environment that we're in. And I think that we're in a 10-year cycle of really great growth in our basin for which we're very, very well positioned. Will we consider future M&A? Sure we will. But I want to just emphasize that our primary focus is just delivering on the value of the acquisitions we've already made and our base business. I mean, we have a lot of big projects that we're also executing on, and we want to make sure that we do the best possible job on that as well.

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Benson
Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Okay, got it. Thanks for that, Dean. Maybe on the organic growth side, you had some good news on the KFS Track 2 execution. I know it's a small project, a big percentage benefit on the budget. As you think about your remaining projects, you're moving and advancing them forward. Do you see maybe potential read-throughs on similar optimizations? And just on that topic, can you remind us with cost savings versus budget, is that a benefit to care customers or is it a mix between the two?

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah, well, maybe I'll start answering the question and I'll toss it over to Jamie. But on the cost savings side, we're pursuing both. There are areas where it will accrue 100% to us, especially at places like Empress, but some of the costs also at our KFS North location. But we also want to pursue opportunities where we create more value for our customers. So if we can reduce our costs and those costs that flow through to our customer provide a better service to them in a and more value to them, we are equally as incentivized to pursue those as well. But in terms of our overall execution of our program, maybe I can just turn it over to you, Jamie.

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Jamie Urquhart
Senior Vice President, Liquid Business Unit

Yeah, thanks, Dean. And thanks for the question, Ben. I think the factors behind ultimately the success that we've seen in the KFS program to de-bottleneck and how we've seen success to date in the projects that we're executing, the bigger projects, is multiple fold. I think we've matured as an organization with respect to project execution. We've hit the market at a good time with respect to the service providers, the constructors in the field, but also shop space is available. and and that's that's benefited us in the short term but it's also we believe going to benefit us in the long term because we've consciously developed partnerships with with those service providers that are long-term in nature and for us giving them line of sight to long-term business you know we've we've reaped the benefits in the short term but we also believe that we're going to read the benefits in the long term because There will be a change in our environment. You can even see it unfolding right now in Western Canada with respect to more projects putting pressure on the skill set that's available. And we believe that that will give us a competitive advantage going forward as well.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

And maybe just to add one more thing to Jamie's comments is that one thing that we've really put more focus on is just more oversight on and all our contractors. In terms of fabrication shops and things like that, we have our people right embedded in those shops to ensure that the quality of what we're getting that gets delivered to site is in accordance to the spec that we set out to deliver.

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Unknown

Okay, that's great, Connor. Thank you.

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Unknown

Thank you.

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Thank you. And your next question is from Maurice Choi from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

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Maurice Choi
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Thank you and good morning, everyone. I wanted to take a high-level overview about your cash flow profile. I wonder if you could discuss between the three buckets of take-or-pay fee-for-service that have volumetric exposure and then marketing. Directionally, where do you see a split today and where do you reckon you want to be by the end of your forecast period in 2029 and what gets you there?

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Good morning, Maurice. I'll turn that question over to Eileen to answer.

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Eileen Marikar
Senior Vice President and CFO

Thanks, Maurice. Great question. I would refer you back to when we announced the plane's acquisition. At that time, we were 70% fee-for-service on a pro forma basis. 30% was marketing. Of that 75%, 45% was take-or-pay with average contract length around 12 years, again, on a pro forma basis, which is very strong. And that is just an average from 2026 to 2028. So as we continue to bring on these projects and with more of the caps that we just acquired, 100% of caps where the contracts are long duration, well over 10 years, 75% taker pay, FRAC 3, the ACE terminal, all of these projects, that just continues to grow that very, very strong cash flow. So we will provide an update. Again, when we provide a greater update on some of the other items on what that revised cash flow looks like, I can assure you it does continue to improve as we start to execute and bring on these projects.

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Unknown

Understood.

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Maurice Choi
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

And if I could finish off with a question on the macro. And in this case, I'm going to on behalf of the industry on this one. You mentioned earlier that you believe on the macro side we're on a 10-year cycle of growth. What, if anything, do you think the industry still needs, be that from the government, from other indicators, for this cycle of growth to proceed?

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah, that's a great question, Maurice. First of all, I do want to emphasize because sometimes I think and many more. Thank you. two years ago, and the things I worried about, it was the top three things I worried about were all government related, maybe they're federal government. And that's much different now. So yes, we need more progress and more clarity in terms of policy and improvements and some regulations to streamline things. But I just wanna say there's a tremendous amount of momentum that's carrying us in the right direction. And I have a high level of confidence That's great to hear. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from Patrick Kenny from National Bank Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

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Patrick Kenny
Analyst, National Bank Capital Markets

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Maybe just back on the consolidation of caps and thinking outside of the financial accretion. Dean, maybe you can just expand on some of the other strategic benefits that you've alluded to. What other commercial opportunities, either upstream or downstream of the pipe, that you might now be able to accelerate as a 100% owner? And then I guess with these opportunities in front of you, if you might consider further Non-core asset sales as just a way to build some dry powder and also accelerate the timing back to three times.

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Unknown

Yeah. Well, those are great questions, Pat.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Maybe I'll start backwards on the asset sales. I mean, I think we've been very disciplined about continuing to high grade our portfolio and making sure that our resources are focused on the things that matter most for the company, not just today, but for the long-term future. So we have sold a number of facilities over the last three years, and we'll continue to high-grade our portfolio, especially the stuff that is not super core to our long-term strategy. Having said that, I wouldn't expect anything super significant in terms of a dollar value sale that is going to meaningfully change our debt position in the next 18 months. As we mentioned, we've been very disciplined about locking in our hedge, especially on the frac spread, but also with our iso-octane business to make sure that we have the cash flow to drive that leverage just with the performance of the business. With respect to caps, when you go back on caps, it was I would say in my time, it's probably the biggest decision we ever made at the time, but probably the best decision we ever made. And, you know, Caps Connects are downstream and upstream business. And so for us to provide the best value add service for our customers, Caps is a core, core piece of that. And again, when you think about the NGLs and condensate that is going to get produced in this basin, with all the pipeline egress that's going to get built for crude oil and more LNG facilities. That is going to be an essential asset that we're going to fill it to capacity. So we just think that it's a core part of our overall integrated service to make our business work better and more competitive. Anything you guys want to add?

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Jamie Urquhart
Senior Vice President, Liquid Business Unit

No, I think as we think about are assets and the opportunity to integrate it with planes. As Dean alluded to, I think we're very pleasantly surprised with respect to the quality of the people. We alluded to the assets are foundational core assets for us going into the future. We may need to spend a few dollars, I think, here in the next year or two to get them up to our standard as as Dean said, but that will enable us to grow our collective business. And I think one of the short-term benefits is being allowing to take the very talented people that we've brought into our organization to think more broadly around the system of assets that we've brought into the asset. They tended to look at things more on an asset by asset basis where they're highly integrated in the decisions we make at one asset impact other assets as well. That's one of the short-term benefits that we've been able to see in action very quickly. And then, as Dean alluded to, the long-term integration opportunities that we're extremely excited about. That would be all I would add to the planes acquisition element of it.

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Unknown

Okay, that's great, Keller.

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Patrick Kenny
Analyst, National Bank Capital Markets

I appreciate that. Maybe just to follow up on the marketing outlook, I know you're well hedged, but I guess just curious, given the strong crack spread, refined product environment, if these market dynamics continue, might there be some further tailwinds here for the and the ISO Octane margins going forward and maybe just confirm where any potential outsized marketing contributions would first be directed, namely balance sheet versus growth.

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Eileen Marikar
Senior Vice President and CFO

Thanks, Pat. Great question. So, in terms of the marketing itself, I think, again, for this year, the $360 million to $390 million we feel is still very appropriate. waited very much towards the second half of the year. And of course, it reflects the outage that we had in the first half of the year at AEF. Again, as you said, as we look forward, we're set up well, really well for 2027 from a marketing perspective. And as you noted, those RBOP to WTI spreads, or what we refer to as RBOP cracks, have been incredibly strong. And we have been layering on RBOP hedges into Next year, as well as even into 2028, because the values are that strong. So I think that's a positive. And as Dean mentioned earlier, on the frack spread side, where more than 65% of the volumes are also hedged at better values than our deal thesis. And then the propane business is also, in general, set up quite well. Again, our ability to export propane to Asia through AltaGas export facility where demand remains strong. So I think for next year, we're set up quite well. And in terms of cash flow, yes, back to capital allocation, our priority is to bring the balance sheet back within the target range. And you asked about asset sales, but the good thing is our leverage, it's conservative, about two and a half to three times, even though we're a bigger size, and we don't need to sell assets. It's more just a matter of cleaning up the portfolio as part of normal course.

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Unknown

Okay, that's great. Thanks, Eileen. Thanks, everybody.

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Unknown

Thanks a lot. Thanks, Ron.

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Thank you. Once again, that is star one. Should you wish to ask a question? And your next question is from Aaron McNeil from Katie Cowan. Your line is now open.

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Aaron McNeil
Analyst, Cowen & Company

Hey, morning, all. Thanks for taking my questions. Dean, one of the strategic rationales for the planes transaction was increasing Connectivity across the NGL value chain. And again, I'm not trying to get you to front run a capital project or anything like that. But now that you've been operating the assets, I'm wondering if you could provide an example or an anecdote of something that would support that previous messaging that maybe you hadn't touched on in the past.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah. Good morning, Aaron. That's a great question. I mean, we're We're just tremendously excited by the combination of the two asset bases because our business was more centered in the West and also getting molecules down into the US. We've had our hands on this business for now for two and a half months and now we're getting more exposure out to the Eastern markets and draw priced off of Bellevue. you know we just see tremendous opportunity to take those molecules to the east but also to be able to distribute them in the mid-continent too right from empress down in the US and accessing also into Wisconsin and Michigan as well so we just like those markets I mean we're a supply-based base and so you know a big part of the value that we add is being able to access markets efficiently and while the Asian markets are very strong off the West Coast and we're well positioned there, continentally, the Eastern markets are strong too, especially in the wintertime. And we're very happy to have the assets that can serve those markets as well. But I don't know if there's anything else you guys wanna add.

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Jamie Urquhart
Senior Vice President, Liquid Business Unit

Yeah, no, I think just to add on to something I shared with the last answer to the question was, Without getting into specifics, we certainly see opportunities to de-bottleneck the assets in a very capital efficient way to facilitate some of the opportunities that perhaps the previous owner just didn't have the commitment and the focus to pursue. So there's no big projects that I think we're in a position to be able to announce over the next little while. It's kind of boring, but I had a boss once that said, bunt single score runs. And there's just a lot of bunt singles that we're unearthing. And that's going to result in some really impressive, I think, growth for our organization over the next year or two.

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Aaron McNeil
Analyst, Cowen & Company

Like you sensed my next question, I wanted to ask about bottlenecks. You know, I think that the CAPS volume ramp is as well documented as are your fractionation and rail capacity additions. So, like, where do you see the greatest bottlenecks across the embedded platform over the next three to five years? Is it the planes business? Is it something else? Is it GMP? Like, how would you rank sort of what's most urgent to not as urgent?

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Well, that's a great question. I mean, you know, the great thing is that we, you know, we have, you know, sanctioned projects in place to address some of the some of the bigger ones. So, you know, with our frac projects and and, you know, but we still have capacity on cabs. And yes, we'll have to add more pumping stations and things like that. But we still have great capacity there to serve the montane and juvenile developments at that part of the basin. you know we we think that we can use our assets more effectively together so like some of our storage assets perhaps you know to get better effective utilization out of the out of the storage as an example so I think that's positive we talked about our oil sands assets so you know the pipe connectivity and the capacity on that between Edmonton, Fort Saskatchewan and you know storage is included as part of that but also the Norlight pipeline and so, you know, there might be the bottlenecks that are required on those assets over time. And as Jamie just described, you know, there's the bottlenecks that were, these are all generally low capital, the bottlenecks that I'm talking about now. So, you know, I would envision that they're all very capital efficient and are going to generate very high returns for us overall. So I'd say the biggest need Capital in need over time is probably on a GDP front where, you know, to process all the incremental gas that's going to get developed, there's going to be likely more processing capacity. Brad, you want to add some comments?

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Brad Slessor
Senior Vice President, GMP and MGL Pipeline Business Unit

Yeah, thanks, Aaron. It's Brad here. Really appreciate the question. I think as leveraging off what Dean said, as the oil sands continues to call for more condensate, we think that's going to come from the Montney and the Duvernay. We think we're well, very well positioned to capture our fair share of that growth coming down the caps pipeline. but all that drilling for condensate brings the need for more gas processing and more NGLs to make it to market as well. And you've seen us talk in the past about a really capital efficiency bottlenecks at Simonette or Wapiti gas plant. And we've also recently talked very, very briefly about getting in front of the incremental need for gas processing we see out in the basin in the Monteney, especially for sour gas processing, which is complex and is right in our area of expertise. and so that's some of the areas that our team is certainly focused on and we look forward to chatting more about that in the coming quarters.

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Unknown

Thanks everyone, I'll turn it back. Thank you.

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Thank you and your next question is from AJ O'Donnell from TPH. Your line is now open.

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AJ O'Donnell
Analyst, Tudor Pickering Holt & Co.

Hey, good morning everyone. I just wanted to focus on some of the macro intrabase and just thinking about some of the incremental progress that's been made on the data center development. And particularly, like, given your position of land in the industrial heartland corridor, could you maybe talk about, you know, your surplus of land or maybe potential gas supply capability that could potentially support You know, a similar power generation project or something data center adjacent opportunity.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah. Good morning, AJ. You know, great question. I mean, I think that we're going to see a lot of opportunity for many developments in in the industrial heartland. And as you mentioned, we have 1300 acres of land there that is situated in a very good spot. It has very good pipe connectivity right through those lands for pretty much every product. The pipes run right through the land, so that's a big advantage. We do have the salt rights to build cavern storage. We have our H-rail terminal that's getting built, which we can multipurpose for other projects. And also I'd point out that Shell's carbon capture line cut through the northeast corner of that land as well. So if there's any projects that require carbon sequestration, we have a short tie-in to get into their line. So there's a lot of advantages there. I won't speak specifically to data centers. I mean, that's always a possibility. And I think it's great to have more demand centers for our natural gas. but I would just say that any developer that requires reliable supply of feedstock, they're gonna look to Alberta. This is a great, great place to do business. And again, I can't think of a better place to locate new opportunities on our lands and in that area. So our team, we have a business development team that's working on opportunities It's too early to talk about what those opportunities look like, but I think that for the long-term future growth of Kiara, you're going to see a lot more development on that land because it's so well situated and has so many amenities that advantage it.

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AJ O'Donnell
Analyst, Tudor Pickering Holt & Co.

Okay. Thanks, Dean. And maybe just the last one, just thinking about your system and tying it back to the macro and just overall volume growth. into the remainder of the year. Just wondering if you could refresh us all and kind of how producer activity is tracking right now, kind of what you're expecting for the cadence of volume wrap through next year or through the end of this year and into 2027. Thanks.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah. Well, listen, you know, as I mentioned before, I mean, we are very, very excited about the macro future, the long-term future, both short, medium, long-term. where there'll be some cycles and blips to there, sure there will be, but generally, I think there's a very strong tailwind for our entire business. And that is good for Kiera. We have core basin infrastructure that helps to enable the basin to grow. We provide services that add value to our customers, the producers, which help them and set them to continue to drill more because it's profitable for them. You know, So we've already published our guidance for our fee-for-service EBITDA growth, which again is, I believe it's the very best out of all the midstream providers, 16% to 18% fee-for-service EBITDA growth from 2025 to 2027, and 7% to 8% from 2027 to 2029. So that guidance is what we're locked in on delivering. and as we said, we see a ton of opportunity that's going to carry our growth well beyond 2029.

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Unknown

So we're very excited. All right. Thank you very much. All right. Thanks. Have a great day.

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. Please proceed with the closing remarks.

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Dan Cuthbertson
General Manager of Investor Relations

This is Dan Cuthbertson with Investor Relations. Thanks all again for joining us today. Please feel free to reach out to our IR team with any additional questions. And with that, I hope everyone enjoys the rest of the summer.

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Jenny
Conference Operator

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