8/6/2026

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Good morning, my name is Jenny, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to CAIR's 2026 Second Quarter Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, then the number 2. Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Dan Cuthbertson, General Manager of Investor Relations. You may begin.

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Dan Cuthbertson
General Manager of Investor Relations

Thanks, and good morning. Joining me today will be Dean Setoguchi, President and CEO, Eileen Marikar, Senior Vice President and CFO, Jamie Urquhart, Senior Vice President, Liquid Business Unit, and Brad Slessor, Senior Vice President, GMP and NGL Pipeline Business Unit. We'll begin with some prepared remarks from Dean and Eileen, after which we will open the call to questions. I'd like to remind listeners that some of the comments and answers that we will give today relate to future events. These forward-looking statements are given as of today's date and reflect events or outcomes that management currently expects. In addition, we will refer to some non-GAAP financial measures, For additional information on non-GAAP measures and forward-looking statements, please refer to GRS public filings available on CDAR and our website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Dean.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Thanks, Dan, and good morning, everyone. This quarter, we successfully closed two strategic acquisitions, the Plains Canadian NGL business and the remaining 50% interest in TAFs. These acquisitions are part of a strong foundation we have assembled for the next phase of disciplined growth and long-term value creation. Our focus now turns to integrating these investments, executing our growth projects, and delivering greater value to customers and shareholders. Our team is working hard on integrating the Plains business and continues to make meaningful progress on identifying and delivering synergies. We will continue to provide updates as that work progresses. After the quarter, KIERA also submitted its response to the Competition Tribunal. regarding the Competition Bureau's notice of application. Because this is an ongoing litigation, we are limited in what we can say, but remain confident in the strength of our case and look forward to demonstrating the value creation that will result from this transaction. Turning to our quarterly results. In gathering processing, we delivered a new quarterly record for realized margin driven by strong contributions across the segments. We also set a new quarterly realized margin record in liquid infrastructure, reflecting contributions from the Plains Canadian NGL business. We continue to deliver and advance our growth projects. KFS Rack 2 eBottleneck was brought into service in early June, more than one month ahead of schedule and 20% below its original budget. KFS North eBottleneck, KFS Rack 3, Capstone 4, and Ace Rail Terminal continue to progress well, all on time and on budget. These projects are highly contracted and will contribute to growth and stable fee-for-service cash flow, supporting the strength of our balance sheet, and long-term dividend sustainability. Yesterday, the Board approved another 4% annual increase in the dividend. Dividend increase reflects our confidence in the business and allows us to preserve our balance sheet strength and Financial Flexibility to invest in further fee-based growth. Now turning to AEF, the facility was restarted at the beginning of June and has been performing well. We continue to view this asset as an important part of our integrated value chain and a meaningful contributor to CARE's long-term value creation. During the outage, we completed a comprehensive review of the facility and its associated operating plan and have identified opportunities to strengthen performance and reliability. Our objective is to maximize iso-octane production over the full four-year cycle while maintaining our focus on safe, reliable, and efficient operations. With that, I'll turn the call over to Eileen to discuss the commercial results and outlook.

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Eileen Marikar
Senior Vice President and CFO

Thanks, Dean, and good morning, everyone. CARE's second quarter results reflect continued strength in our fee-for-service business. which was offset by lower marketing contributions. Excluding transaction costs related to the plane's acquisition, adjusted EBITDA was $309 million and distributable cash flow was $101 million or $0.39 per share. Net earnings for the quarter were $308 million. In our fee-for-service segment, battery and processing delivered record quarterly realized margins of $128 million. In liquid infrastructure, we also delivered record realized margin of $222 million. Results included contributions from the Plains Canadian NGO assets and the CAPS acquisition. Turning to the marketing segment. Realized margin was $36 million for the quarter. Decrease compared to last year was primarily attributable to the AES outage and corresponding timing impacts related to risk management activities. The risk management timing impacts are expected to partly offset over the second half of 2026 as physical volumes are sold. Looking ahead, we continue to expect marketing to deliver strong contributions through the second half of the year, and we are reaffirming our 2026 realized margin guidance range of $360 million to $390 million. We ended the quarter with net debt to adjusted EBITDA of 3.3 times. above our long-term target range. The increase reflects higher net debt related to recent acquisitions and lower marketing contributions in the first half of 2026. We remain focused on deleveraging and returning for within our target range in 2028. We remain on track to deliver a 16 to 18% fee-based adjusted EBITDA per share CAGR from 2025 to 2027. and a 7% to 8% fee-based adjusted EBITDA per share CAGR from 2027 to 2029. This growth outlook is underpinned by several clearly defined drivers, including our current strat synergy target of $120 million to $140 million, the continued filling of available system capacity and our portfolio of sanctioned growth capital projects. Beyond those drivers, we continue to see meaningful potential upside from additional synergies for their capacity optimization, our condensate system, additional caps contracting, and capital efficient investment opportunities across the entire asset base. As our integration work progresses, we're encouraged by the additional value creation opportunities we've identified. We're also identifying opportunities to further enhance reliability across the acquired assets. which may modestly increase maintenance capital requirements over the next couple of years as we continue to apply Kiera's operating standards. Lastly, Kiera's 2026 guidance for growth capital, maintenance capital, and cash taxes remain unchanged. With that, I'll turn it back to Dean for closing remarks.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Thanks, Eileen. Kiera continues to deliver its strategies to strengthen and extend their integrated value chain. Thank you. Looking ahead, we'll remain focused on discipline integration, continued execution of our growth projects, and delivering long-term value for our customers and shareholders. On behalf of our board and management team, I want to thank our employees, customers, shareholders, indigenous rights holders, and other stakeholders for their continued support. With that, we'll open the line for questions.

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. If you have a question, please press the star followed by the one on the twist-on phone. If you wish to cancel your request, you may press star 2. Once again, that is star 1 should you wish to ask a question. And your first question is from Rob Hope from Scotiabank. Your line is now open.

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Rob Hope
Analyst, Scotiabank

Morning, everyone. First question is on the liquid infrastructure segment. So, the $78 million of incremental contribution from planes was, you know, quite a bit higher than we were expecting, as well as commentary when the deal was first announced. Can you maybe speak to, you know, the specific drivers of that strength, whether that could be annualized or, you know, were there, we'll call it abnormally high volumes in Q2?

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Good morning, Rob, and thank you very much for the question. You know, I think the general comment that we'd like to emphasize here is that the Plains Canadian NGL business has been performing better than the way we originally modeled it and envisioned it. And, you know, that's right across the board from, you know, the Corp pipeline, the frack business in Fort Saskatchewan, and also, the volumes have been strong. And, you know, and the extraction pets that have been better than what we had modeled. So overall, the assets are performing and the business is performing very well. We're still getting up to speed, obviously. We've been less than three months since we've taken over the operatorship of those assets. We see a lot of great opportunities across the portfolio that we're getting more details on and trying to prioritize and get at them as soon as we can. But I'd also like to caution that this is a partial quarter, and I would say it's premature to try to extrapolate a whole year's EBITDA based on a partial quarter right now. But generally, I want to emphasize that the business is performing very well.

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Rob Hope
Analyst, Scotiabank

I appreciate that. And then maybe moving over to your condensate assets, you know, a key theme this quarter has been kind of the outlook for increasing condensate demand and supplies in Western Canada. You know, can you speak to how your business is positioned to handle an increasing condensate demand and what opportunities are you seeing?

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah, that's a great question. And First of all, I'd just like to comment that we are extremely excited with the developments that we've seen here and the cooperation that we've seen from the D.C. and Alberta government and also the federal government. And with that, we feel a lot more optimistic that we're going to see a lot more pipeline egress out of the province, which is going to help more oil sands grow in the future. As you know, We have the hub for condensate and roughly two-thirds of all the condensate that goes up to oil sands for diluent originates off of our system. So when we think about the growth in oil sands production over the last couple, two to three years with Trans Mountain coming into service, we've seen that part of our business, our pipelines that receive the condensate and our storage business, and also our interest in the Norlight Pipeline Those volumes have been increasing very well, and so that part of our business has been very, very strong. We anticipate more growth in the future with, again, more pipeline egress. So we certainly envision more capital efficiency bottlenecks on that system to continue to provide that service. But what I would say is that it is a tailwind for our entire business. because a lot of that condensate is also going to come from the liquids-rich Montney and also the Duvernay, for which we're very, very well positioned, both, I would say, in the Deep Basin and also up in the, you know, the Montney Fairway up to the northwest in Alberta and also to BC. So, and I also like to emphasize, I mean, this is also part of the reason why we doubled down on TAPs because we believe this is going to be an essential component that will be required by the industry for the next decade. So we're very pleased to have 100% of that pipeline to provide that service. Incremental glass, we are looking at other solutions, which I think is premature right now. I mean, we have capabilities to rail in more condensate, but also looking at other solutions to provide more condensate or diluent as that demand increases. All right, appreciate the call. Thank you.

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Thank you. Your next question is from Robert Cattelier from CIBC. Your line is at open.

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Robert Cattelier
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Hey, good morning. I just wanted to follow up on the condensate discussion. You know, maybe you can give us a little bit more color on your capabilities to deliver from Edmonton up to the oil sands, and it looks like you're at contractual near contractual capacity in the fort. So maybe some color in what you're looking at there to de-bottleneck and the timing of any potential opportunities. The timing in particular I want to talk about just because as the OSEN gets going, it might take a while before protection ramps to meet the pipeline or the other egress and service dates.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah, that's a great question, Rob. And you know what? I'll turn that over to Jamie, and that's certainly part of his business and things that they're focusing on.

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Jamie Urquhart
Senior Vice President, Liquid Business Unit

Yeah, thanks for the question, Robert. And I think I alluded to this last quarter as well, is that we have a very well-defined sort of capital execution plan to – basically increased the capacity of both the Fort Saskatchewan Conce system, but also working with our partner Enbridge on the Norlake pipeline. And those things can either be fairly quickly implemented like DRA, drag reducing agent, or installing pump stations or even looping pipe for a segment of the pipeline where we can increase capacity. So we've identified all those. We believe that they're all you know very capital efficient as Dean alluded to but also I'd like to emphasize is that you know we are in conversations with all the Yellow Sands players with respect to making sure that we're in their minds and we're their solution as they think to expand maybe two, three, five, ten years out.

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Robert Cattelier
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Okay so lots going on so we'll wait and see there. I just want to touch on the product spread. You gave your levels a proportion of hedging, and you've chosen not to disclose the price, but presumably you're hedging at levels above your underwriting case. So I'm just curious about the 27 level, the 65% of product spread hedges, all from the hedge level you had coming into the Plains deal, so the levels that were in PlayFact closing. or has there been incremental hedging since then? And, you know, just pricing relative to your underwriting assumptions.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah, Rob, those are great questions. And we have layered in incremental hedges both this year and next year. So as you know, we had a 12-month hedge in place already with planes. So it left us, you know, more exposed in the second half of 2027. and we've layered in a significant amount of hedges in the second half as well as topping up you know again the first half 27 and the rest of this year. So you know we think that's important for a number of reasons. One is the practice spreads have been very strong so well above our deal thesis and two as Eileen mentioned you know we're beyond our our stated range of where we'd like our balance sheet. We're still in a very comfortable range but we'd like to be in a more conservative range and this will ensure that we'll be able to deliver a balance sheet as I think described.

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Robert Cattelier
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Okay, last one for me is that you're going to give an update I think on the synergies later in the year but with what you know now, what areas are most likely to generate additional opportunities? Is that going to come from The cost side or the commercial side?

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

I would say all of the above. We've already announced that we delivered 90 million of synergies on day one. And we're still operating redundant systems and things like that. We weren't able to convert them all on day one. So We still have G&A savings, I would say, yet to come. We have operating savings yet to come. Certainly synergies in maintenance and turnarounds as well. We've talked about logistics opportunities for more optimization there. And generally what we've seen across the board is there's been an underinvestment in the business. So we just see a lot of opportunities both to integrate our existing Tiara business and the business we just acquired, but also more growth opportunities, commercial opportunities on the planes assets that we acquired as well. So we're very optimistic about the upside we see. We also would also caution to you that there will likely be a little bit more Maintenance costs in the first year, year and a half to two years, I would say. There are a few things that we would like to accelerate to get it to the operating standard that we like and to get to a steady state after that. But that initial maintenance cost that we might be exposed to, and we're still evaluating that, is very small relative to the upside price that we see overall with the business.

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Robert Cattelier
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Okay, thank you, and congratulations on closing those two acquisitions. Yeah, thanks a lot, Rob.

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Thank you. Your next question is from Benson from VMO. Your line is now open.

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Benson
Analyst, VMO

Hi, good morning. First question is on acquisitions. You've now closed two major ones, the planes and the remaining caps, and I'm curious as you think the next couple of years going forward. Should investors view CAIR as more of a harvest? You mentioned the leveraging focus, or do you think there's any white space or are there many opportunities that you see in the next few years?

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Good morning, Ben. Those are great questions. I really want to emphasize that our focus right now is 100% on on capturing the opportunities that we see both in the CAPS acquisition and also the Plains NGL business. And those opportunities are very significant in our mind, and we can deliver a lot of value for our customers and our shareholders for the visible future. And, you know, Eileen described the upside that we talked about, the 16% to 18% from 25% to 27%, fee-for-service EBITDA growth, and then 7% to 8% out to 29%. We see growth opportunities well beyond that, especially when you think about the macro environment that we're in. And I think that we're in a 10-year cycle of really great growth in our basin for which we're very, very well positioned. Will we consider future M&A? Sure we will. But I want to just emphasize that our primary focus is just delivering on the value of the acquisitions we've already made and our base business. I mean, we have a lot of big projects that we're also executing on and we want to make sure that we do the best possible job on that as well.

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Benson
Analyst, VMO

Okay, got it. Thanks for that, Dean. Maybe on the organic growth side, you had some good news on the KFS track two execution. I know it's a small project, big percentage benefit on the budget. I do think with your remaining projects, you're and moving and advancing them for maybe potential recruits on similar optimizations. And just on that topic, can you remind us with cost savings versus budget, is that a benefit to care customers or is it a mix between the two?

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah. Well, maybe I'll start answering the question and I'll toss it over to Jamie. But on the cost savings side, we're pursuing both. So There are areas where it will accrue 100% to us, especially at places like Empress, but some of the costs also at our KFF North location. But we also want to pursue opportunities where we create more value for our customers. So if we can reduce our costs and those costs that flow through to our customer provide a better service to them in a and more value to them, we are equally as incentivized to pursue those as well. But in terms of our overall execution of our program, maybe I can just turn it over to Jamie. Yeah, thanks, Dean, and thanks for the question, Ben.

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Jamie Urquhart
Senior Vice President, Liquid Business Unit

I think the factors behind ultimately the success that we've seen in the KFS program to de-bottleneck in and how we've seen success to date in the projects that we're executing, the bigger projects, is multiple fold. I think we've matured as an organization with respect to project execution. We've hit the market at a good time with respect to the service providers, the constructors in the field, but also shop spaces available. and that's benefited us in the short term but it's also, we believe, going to benefit us in the long term because we've consciously developed partnerships with those service providers that are long term in nature and for us giving them line of sight to long term business, we've reaped the benefits in the short term but we also believe that we're going to reap the benefits in the long term because There will be a change in our environment. You can even see it unfolding right now in Western Canada with respect to more projects putting pressure on the skill set that's available. And we believe that that will give us a competitive advantage going forward as well.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah, and maybe just to add one more thing to Jamie's comments is that one thing that we've really put more focus on is just more oversight on... and all our contractors. In terms of fabrication shops and things like that, we have our people right embedded in those shops to ensure that the quality of what we're getting that gets delivered to the site is in accordance to the spec that we set out to deliver.

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Benson
Analyst, VMO

Okay, that's a good comment. Thank you. Thank you.

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Thank you, and your next question is from Maurice Choi from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

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Maurice Choi
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. I wanted to take a high-level overview about your cash flow profile. I wonder if you could discuss, you know, between the three buckets of take-or-pay fee-for-service that have volumetric exposure and then marketing. Direction, where do you see us today and where do you reckon you want to be by the end of your forecast period in 2029 and what gets you there?

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Good morning, Maurice. I'll turn that question over to Eileen to answer.

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Eileen Marikar
Senior Vice President and CFO

Thanks, Maurice. Great question. I would refer you back to when we announced the planes acquisition and You know, at that time, we were 70% fee-for-service on a pro forma basis, 30% was marketing. Of that 75%, 20, sorry, 45% was taker pay with average contract claims around 12 years, again, on a pro forma basis, which is very strong. And that is just an average from 2026 to 2028. So as we continue to bring on these projects and with more of the caps that we just acquired, 100% of caps where the contracts are, you know, long duration, well over 10 years, 75% taker pay, FRAC 3, the AIDS terminal, all of these projects that just continues to grow that very, very strong cash flow. So, you know, we will provide an update. Again, when we provide, you know, a greater update on some of the other items on what that revised cash flow looks like, I can assure you it does continue to improve as we start to execute and bring on these projects.

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Maurice Choi
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Understood. And if I could finish off with a question on the macro. And in this case, I'm going to on behalf of the industry on this one. You mentioned earlier that you believe on the macro side we're on a 10-year cycle of growth. What, if anything, do you think the industry still needs either from the government, from other indicators for this cycle of growth to proceed?

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah, that's a great question, Maurice. First of all, I do want to emphasize because sometimes I think We complain about the things we don't have. And we don't maybe sometimes stop and give enough credit for the tremendous progress that's been made. And I just, I want to give a lot of credit to, you know, our federal government. You know, our Prime Minister is driving us in the right direction, working with Premier Smith, and, you know, also Premier Evie too in BC. And so, you know, when I think back, Two years ago, and the things I worried about, it was the top three things I worried about were all governments related, meaning our federal government. And that's much different now. So, yes, we need more progress and more clarity in terms of policy and improvements and some regulations to streamline things. But I just want to say there's a tremendous amount of momentum that's carrying us in the right direction. And I have a high level of confidence. that our governments are going to get to where we need to be to be that energy superpower and for our industry to thrive and continue to grow for the benefit of all Canadians.

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Pat
Analyst

That's great to hear.

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Maurice Choi
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Thank you very much.

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Thank you.

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Pat
Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Maybe just back on the consolidation of caps and thinking outside of the financial accretion, maybe you can just expand on some of the other strategic benefits that you've alluded to. What other commercial opportunities, either upstream or downstream of the pipe, that you might now be able to accelerate as a 100% owner? And then I guess with these opportunities in front of you, if you might consider further non-core asset sales as just a way to build some dry powder and also accelerate the timing back to three times.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah. Well, those are great questions, Pat. Maybe I'll start backwards on the asset sales. I mean, I think we've been very disciplined about continuing to high-grade our portfolio and making sure that our resources are focused on the things that matter most for the company, not just today, but for the long-term future. So, you know, we have sold a number of facilities over the last three years, and we'll continue to upgrade our portfolio, especially the stuff that is not super core to our long-term strategy. Having said that, I wouldn't expect anything super significant in terms of a dollar value sale that is going to meaningfully change our debt position in the next 18 months. As we mentioned, we've been very disciplined about locking in our hedges, especially on the crack spread, but also with our iso-octane business to make sure that we have the cash flow to drive that leverage just with the performance of the business. With respect to CAPS, When you go back on CAPS, I would say in my time, it's probably the biggest decision we ever made at the time, but probably the best decision we ever made. CAPS connects our downstream and upstream business. For us to provide the best value-add service for our customers, CAPS is a core, core piece of that. Again, when you think about The NGLs and condensate that is going to get produced in this space and with all the pipeline egress that's going to get built for crude oil and more LNG facilities, that is going to be an essential asset that, you know, we're going to fill it to capacity. So, you know, we just think that it's a core part of our overall integrated service to make our business work better and more competitive. Anything you guys want to add?

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Jamie Urquhart
Senior Vice President, Liquid Business Unit

No, like, I mean, I think As we think about our assets and the opportunity to integrate it with planes, as Dean alluded to, I think we're very pleasantly surprised with respect to the quality of the people. We alluded to the assets are foundational core assets for us going into the future. Thank you for joining us today. to think more broadly around the system of assets that we've brought into the asset. They tended to look at things more on an asset-by-asset basis where they're highly integrated in the decisions we make at one asset impact other assets as well. That's one of the short-term benefits that we've been able to see in action very quickly. And then, as Dean alluded to, the long-term integration opportunities that we're extremely excited about. but you know that would be all I would add to the planes acquisition element of it.

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Pat
Analyst

Okay that's great Keller I appreciate that and then maybe just to follow up on the marketing outlook I know you're well hedged but I guess just curious given the strong crack spread you know refined product environment if these market dynamics continue you know might there be some further tailwinds here for the and the ISO Octane margins going forward and maybe just confirm where any potential outsized marketing contributions would first be directed, namely balance sheet versus growth.

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Eileen Marikar
Senior Vice President and CFO

Thanks, Pat. Great question. So in terms of the marketing itself, I think we, again, for this year, the 360 to 390 million, we feel it's still very appropriate. Thank you so much for joining us. as well as even into 2028 because the values are that strong. So I think that's a positive. And as Dean mentioned earlier, on the frack spread side, where more than 65% of the volumes are also hedged at better values than our deal pieces. And then the propane business is also, in general, set up quite well. Again, our ability to export propane to Asia through AltaGas export facility is where demand remains strong. So I think for next year, we're set up quite well. And in terms of cash flow, yes, you know, back to capital allocation, we do, our priority is to bring that, the balance sheet back within the target range. And you asked about asset sales, but the good thing is our leverage, it's still, it's conservative. That's two and a half to three times, even though we're a bigger size and we don't need to sell assets. It's more just a matter of cleaning up the portfolio as part of normal course.

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Pat
Analyst

Okay, that's great. Thanks, Eileen. Thanks, everybody.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot.

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Thank you. Once again, that is Star 1. Should you wish to ask a question? And your next question is from Aaron McNeil from Katie Cowan. Your line is now open.

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Aaron McNeil
Analyst, Katie Cowan

Hey, morning, all. Thanks for taking my questions. Dean, one of the strategic rationales for the planes transaction was increasing costs connectivity across the NGL value chain. And again, I'm not trying to get you to front run a capital project or anything like that. But now that you've been operating the assets, I'm wondering if you could provide an example or an anecdote of something that would support that previous messaging that maybe you haven't touched on in the past.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah. Good morning, Aaron. That's a great question. I mean, we're We're just tremendously excited by, you know, the combination of the two asset bases because our business was more centered in the West and also getting molecules down into the US. And, you know, we've had our hands on, you know, this business for now for two and a half months. And, you know, now we're getting more exposure out to the Eastern markets and it's all priced off of Bellevue. And, you know, We just see tremendous opportunity to take those molecules to the east, but also to be able to distribute them in the mid-continent too, right from Empress down in the U.S. and accessing also into Wisconsin and Michigan as well. We just like those markets. We're a supply-based basin, so a big part of the value that we add is being able to access markets efficiently. and, you know, while the Asian markets are very strong off the West Coast and we're well positioned there, you know, continentally, the Eastern markets are strong too, especially in the wintertime. And we're very happy to have the assets that can serve those markets as well. But I don't know if there's anything else you guys want to add.

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Jamie Urquhart
Senior Vice President, Liquid Business Unit

Yeah, no, I think just to add on to, you know, something I shared with the last answer to the question was, Without getting into specifics, we certainly see opportunities to de-bottleneck the assets in a very capital-efficient way to facilitate some of the opportunities that perhaps the previous owner just didn't have the commitment and the focus to pursue. So there's no big projects that I think we're in a position to be able to announce over the next little while. It's kind of boring, but I had a boss once that said, bunt single score runs. And there's just a lot of bunt singles that we're unearthing. And that's going to result in some really impressive, I think, growth for our organization over the next year or two.

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Aaron McNeil
Analyst, Katie Cowan

Like you sent to my next question, I wanted to ask about bottlenecks. You know, I think that the CAPS volume ramp is well documented as are your fractionation and rail capacity additions. So, like, where do you see the greatest bottlenecks across added platform over the next three to five years? Is it the planes business? Is it something else? Is it GMP? Like, how do you, how would you rank sort of what's most urgent to not as urgent?

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Oh, that's a great question. I mean, you know, the great thing is that we, you know, we have, you know, sanctioned projects in place to address some of the bigger ones. So, you know, with our frack projects and, you know, but we still have capacity on caps. And yes, we'll have to add more pumping stations and things like that. But we still have great capacity there to serve the montany and juveny developments at that part of the basin. You know, we think that we can use our assets more effectively together. So like some of our storage assets, perhaps, you know, to get better effective utilization out of the storage, as an example. So I think that's positive. We talked about our oil sands assets. So, you know, the pipe connectivity and the capacity on that between Edmonton, Fort Saskatchewan and, you know, storage is included as part of that, but also the Norlite pipeline. and so, you know, there might be the bottlenecks that are required on those assets over time and as Jamie just described, you know, there's the bottlenecks that were, these are all generally low capital, the bottlenecks that I'm talking about now. So, you know, I would envision that they're all very capital efficient and are going to generate very high returns for us overall. So, I'd say the biggest need I think the capital we need over time is probably on a GDP front where, you know, to process all the incremental gas that's going to get developed, there's going to be likely more processing capacity. Brad, you can add some comments.

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Brad Slessor
Senior Vice President, GMP and NGL Pipeline Business Unit

Yeah, thanks, Eric. Brad here. Really appreciate the question. I think as leveraging off what Dean said, if the oil sands continues to call for more condensate, we think that's going to come from the montane and the duvernay. We think we're well, very well positioned to capture our fair share of that growth coming down the cast pipeline. But all that drilling for condensate brings the need for more gas processing and more NGLs to make it to market as well. And you've seen us talk in the past about a really capital efficiency bottleneck at Simonette, their Wapiti gas plant. And we've also recently talked very, very briefly about getting in front of the incremental need for gas processing we see out in the basin, the Montney, especially for sour gas processing, which is complex and is right in our area of expertise. and so that's some of the areas that our team is certainly focused on and we look forward to chatting more about that in the coming quarters.

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Aaron McNeil
Analyst, Katie Cowan

Thanks everyone. I'll turn it back. Thank you.

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Thank you and your next question is from AJ O'Donnell from TPH. Your line is now open.

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AJ O'Donnell
Analyst, TPH

Hey, good morning everyone. I just wanted to focus on some of the macro intrabase and just thinking about some of the incremental progress that's been made on the data center development. And particularly, like, given your position of land in the industrial heartland corridor, could you maybe talk about, you know, your surplus of land or maybe potential gas supply capability that could potentially support a similar power generation project or something data center adjacent opportunity?

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah, good morning, AJ. Great question. I mean, I think that we're going to see a lot of opportunity for many developments in the industrial heartland. And as you mentioned, we have 1,300 acres of land there that is situated in a very good spot. It has very good pipe connectivity right through those lands for pretty much every product. The pipes run right through the land, so that's a big advantage. We do have the salt rights to build cavern storage. We have our H-rail terminal that's getting built, which we can multipurpose for other projects. And also I'd point out that Shell's carbon capture line cut through the northeast corner of that land as well. So if there's any projects that require carbon sequestration, we have a short tie-in to get into their line. So there's a lot of advantages there. I won't speak specifically to data centers. I mean, that's always a possibility, and I think it's great to have more demand centers for our natural gas. But I would just say that any developer that requires reliable supply of feedstock, they're going to look to Alberta. This is a great, great place to do business. And, you know, again, I can't think of a better place to locate new opportunities on our, you know, in our lands and in that area. So, you know, our team, we have a business development team that's working on opportunities It's too early to talk about what those opportunities look like, but I think that for the long-term future growth of Kiara, you're going to see a lot more development on that land because it's so well situated and has so many amenities that advantage it.

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AJ O'Donnell
Analyst, TPH

Okay. Thanks, Dean. And maybe just the last one, just thinking about your system and tying it back to the macro and just overall volume growth into the remainder of the year. Just wondering if you could refresh us all and kind of how producer activity is tracking right now, kind of what you're expecting for the cadence of volume wrap through next year or through the end of this year and into 2027. Thanks.

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Dean Setoguchi
President and CEO

Yeah. Well, listen, as I mentioned before, I mean, we are very Very excited about the macro future, the long-term future, both short, medium, long-term. Whether there be some cycles and blips to this, sure there will be. But generally, I think there's a very strong tailwind for our entire business. And that is good for Kiera. We have core basin infrastructure that helps to enable the basin to grow. We provide services that add value to our customers, the producers. which helped them and sent them to continue to drill more because it's profitable for them. So we've already published our guidance for our fee-for-service EBITDA growth, which again is, I believe it's the very best out of all the midstream providers, 16 to 18% fee-for-service EBITDA growth from 2025 to 2027, and 7 to 8 from 2027 to 2029. So that guidance is what we're locked in on delivering. And as we said, we see a ton of opportunity that's going to carry our growth well beyond 2029. So we're very excited. All right. Thank you very much. All right. Thanks. Have a great day.

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. Please proceed with the closing remarks.

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Dan Cuthbertson
General Manager of Investor Relations

This is Dan Cuthbertson with Investor Relations. Thanks all again for joining us today. Please feel free to reach out to our IR team with any additional questions. And with that, I hope everyone enjoys the rest of the summer.

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Jenny
Conference Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. That concludes the conference call for today. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.

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