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spk03: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the BK Technologies Corporation conference call for third quarter 2023. This call is being recorded. All participants have been placed on a listen-only mode. Following management's remarks, the call will be open for questions. There is a slide presentation that accompanies today's remarks that can be accessed via the webcast. At this time, it is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host for today, Jen Belladeau. Please go ahead.
spk01: Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to our conference call to discuss BK Technologies' results for the third quarter of 2023. On the call today are John Suzuki, Chief Executive Officer, and Scott Malminger, Chief Financial Officer. I will take a moment to read the Safe Harbor Statements. Statements made during this conference call and presented in the presentation that are not based on historical facts are forward-looking statements. Such statements include, but are not limited to, projections or statements of future goals and targets regarding the company's revenue and profits. These statements are subject to known and unknown factors and risks. The company's actual results, performance, or achievements may differ materially from those expressed or implied by these forward-looking statements. Some of the factors and risks that could cause or contribute to such material differences have been described in this morning's press release and in BK's filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. These statements are based on information and understandings that are believed to be accurate as of today, and we do not undertake any duty to update such forward-looking statements. Okay, with that out of the way, I'll turn the call over to John Suzuki, CEO of BK Technologies. Go ahead, John.
spk07: Thank you, Jen. Thank you, everyone, for joining today. I'll start by reviewing some of the highlights of our operations and financial results during the quarter. Then I'll turn it over to our Chief Financial Officer, Scott Malmanger, for a deeper dive into our financial results. We'll conclude by opening up the call for a brief Q&A. Turning to slide three. We delivered strong third quarter results, which included a 68 percent increase in revenue to 20.1 million, improved gross margins, and a return to profitability. During the quarter, we shipped 9,310 radios, bringing our shipment total to 28,249 for the first nine months of 2023. And we remain on track to achieve our target range a shipping between 32 and 36,000 radios for the full year. With our visibility today, we believe we have a very good chance to achieve the high end of our radio delivery guidance. In the third quarter, we continued to ship not just the BKR-5000, but also our BKR-9000 multiband radio. In fact, in September, we received an emergency order for the BKR-9000 from the state of Hawaii as they contended with the aftermath of the devastating wildfires in Maui County. We mobilized quickly to get a shipment out to this new customer, and we're pleased to have had the opportunity to assist during a difficult time and to launch what we hope will be an ongoing relationship with the state. We continue to see great deal of market interest in the BKR 9000, which with its enhanced multi-band capabilities and cost-effective price point is an attractive offering in the portable communication space. The BKR9000 has completed field tests on more than 19 P25 trunk systems, and there are 30-plus additional system tests underway. BK has years of experience acquiring system approval for our legacy P25 radios, And this history is helping to expedite the individual approval process. As we move forward, we expect the success of these field tests will serve as further verification of the radio's multiband capabilities and reliability, opening up opportunities for us to address a larger and more diverse market vertical. Turning to slide four. We saw significant order activity during the third quarter. In addition to the BKR 9000 order from the state of Hawaii that I just mentioned, we also received an order from Sandoval County, New Mexico, valued at $963,000. I highlight Sandoval County because they are a good example of what we define as a Tier 3 county in terms of population density. There is an estimated 750 Tier 3 suburban to rural counties in the U.S. that we're targeting for the BKR 9000 because we believe the radio is a great fit, not just in its multiband capabilities, but its cost-effective price point, positioning us to gain market share. For the BKR 5000, there continues to be strong demand. As demonstrated by a $3.4 million order we received from the National Interagency Incident Communications Division, and a $2.1 million order from the Bureau of Land Management, which also included some BKR 9000 radios for test and evaluation. So it's been a very busy quarter in terms of order activity, and we ended the quarter with an order backlog of $21.8 million as of September 30, 2023. Slide five. Slide 5 illustrates the continued traction we're seeing with our radios. As I mentioned a moment ago, in the third quarter, we shipped 9,310 units, bringing us to a total of 28,249 radios shipped year-to-date. And I will repeat my point from a moment ago that we believe we'll close the year out on the high end of our targeted range of 32,000 to 36,000 shipments for the full year, 2023. Turning to slide six. Our gross margin performance continues to make progress and we are seeing the positive impact of our cost reduction initiatives and higher revenue. Our gross margin improvement in the third quarter represents our fifth consecutive quarter of sequential margin improvement with the continuation of our initiatives to reduce product costs coupled with the addition of the higher margin BKR 9000 multiband radio to our product mix we expect to see gross margin continue to improve through the fourth quarter and into 2024. Now, I'll turn it over to Scott Malmanger, CFO, to take you through the financials. Scott?
spk02: Scott Malmanger Thanks, John. On slide seven, you'll see a summary of our financial and operating results for the period ending September 30th, 2023. Sales for the third quarter totaled approximately 20.1 million compared with 11.9 million for the same quarter last year. Revenues of more than 57 million for the September year to date have surpassed the prior full year record of 51 million achieved in 2022. As John mentioned, we closed the third quarter with an order backlog of 21.8 million. Gross profit margin in the third quarter was 32% compared with 19% in the third quarter last year. Selling general and administrative expenses, or SG&A, totaled approximately 5.8 million for the third quarter compared with 4.6 million for the same quarter last year. Operating income totaled $594,000 compared with an operating loss of $2.4 million for the third quarter of last year. In the third quarter of 2023, we recognized the net unrealized loss of $342,000 on our investments, compared with the net realized gain of $76,000 in the same quarter last year. We recorded net income of $90,000 or $0.03 per basic and diluted share in the third quarter of 2023, compared with a net loss of $2.4 million or $0.71 per basic and diluted share in the prior year period. And finally, on September 30, 2023, we have approximately $4.1 million of cash and cash equivalent and no long-term debt. From a liquidity standpoint, we believe that our current cash position, combined with anticipated cash generated primarily by radio sales and borrowing availability under our credit facility, provides us with the working capital that we need to grow our business. The additional $2 million in cash expected from the east-west transaction is expected to be used to pay down our line of credit. I will now turn the call back over to John. Thanks, Scott.
spk07: Turning to slide eight, I'd like to provide you an update on our SaaS business. We previously detailed that the public safety market represents a tremendous opportunity for SaaS solutions. AT&T regularly publishes their update, Public Safety FirstNet Subscribers, with the latest announcing 5.3 million connections over 27,000 public safety agencies. Verizon does not publish their frontline public safety connections, but it is believed to be similar in size to AT&T. With more first responders being equipped with smartphones, BK firmly believes that the next focus in public safety communications spend will be to make the first responders safer and more effective as they step out of their connected vehicle. Slide nine. Slide 9 provides a timeline of our SAS business unit, which began with our applications for three patents in December of 2021. The three patent applications envisioned a set of new public safety services and features, which would be delivered through BK's smartphone application, BK Airplay. In February 2022, we formalized our SAS vision with the formation of a new business unit led by industry veteran James Thiel. Eight months later, in October 2022, BK launched its first SaaS service, Interop One. Interop One, a push to talk over cellular service, which was quickly recognized for its unique patent-pending capability to form on-demand talk groups in five minutes or less using any smartphone associated with any cellular carrier. Our first paying Interop One subscriber was officially onboarded in January of 2023. Since the launch, several federal, state, and local government agencies have been field trialing the service. Based on this customer feedback, in August 2023, BK released new features enhancing the user experience when using Interop One. Recently, our Interop One customer base expanded to include our first international customer from Canada. Our second patent application looked at an innovative approach to bridge LMR radios with LTE smartphones. In October 23, we demonstrated our patent-pending Interop 1 tethering feature, which enables first responders using BKR radios the option to communicate over a private P25 network or a public cellular network. Slide 10. Slide 10 highlights an example of how Interop 1 tethering and Interop push-to-talk over cellular service can drive BKR 9000 sales. A recent $315,000 contract award from the U.S. Department of Defense required multiband, P25 network ready, and be LTE capable. Our BCARE 9000 with Interop 1 tethering presented an alternative solution that met all requirements at a compelling price point. It's always great to expand our relationship with the U.S. Department of Defense, particularly when we do so by beating an incumbent competitor with a new innovative solution. Turning to slide 11. We recently announced our strategic decision to shift our production operation to east-west manufacturing. After careful analysis and consideration, we believe it makes sense, or strategic sense, to shift to an asset-light model. As many of you know, we have always relied on, to some extent, on contract manufacturers to support our in-house efforts, and east-west has been a reliable partner to us for several years. We believe that outsourcing our manufacturing operations will simplify supply chain management, which has become a challenging part of our day-to-day operations, and will enable us to continue reducing both production and product costs. Additionally, by moving supply chain management and production to east-west, we can focus on our core competencies, the development and marketing of LMR communications technology. In addition to the operational benefits, EastWest, a portfolio company of MSD partners, has become a shareholder of BK based on their confidence in our products and the long-term market opportunity. We anticipate that the transition to EastWest will take place over a six-month period commencing in Q1 2024, and we do not anticipate disruptions in our production schedules. With the move, Our existing Melbourne facility will now focus on new product introduction in support of our engineering efforts. We're confident that the move to an asset-light model will help us ensure efficient fulfillment of the high demand we're seeing for our products while also strengthening margins over time. Moving to our final slide, slide 12. We are energized by the market interest we're seeing for our products and optimistic about the opportunities we're seeing to expand our customer base by tapping new vertical markets. Our operational strategy remains focused on maximizing production efficiency, and as I mentioned earlier, we believe we are on well pace to meet our high end of our stated annual shipment target of between 32 and 36,000 radios for the full year. BK's reputation as a premier communications technology provider for the public safety and critical communication market is established and growing. Our BKR 5000 has demonstrated proven success in its appeal to existing and new customers as they move through equipment upgrade cycles. Likewise, the multiband capabilities of the BKR 9000 provide us the opportunity to significantly expand our target markets and grow our brand recognition among a new customer audience. Finally, we think Interop One has the ideal capabilities to improve communications between first responders, which will in turn improve safety and response time, potentially saving lives. As a fast service, we anticipate Interop One will play a meaningful role in delivering high-margin, recurring revenue as we gain market presence over time. With that, I'll turn the call over to the operator for questions.
spk03: Matt? Certainly. Everyone at this time will be conducting a question and answer session. If you have any questions or comments, please press star 1 on your phone at this time. We do ask that while posing your question, please pick up your handset if you're listening on speakerphone to provide optimum sound quality. Once again, if you have any questions or comments, please press star 1 on your phone. Please hold while we poll for questions.
spk00: Thank you.
spk03: Your first question is coming from Aaron Martin from AIGH Investments. Your line is live.
spk05: Hi, good morning. Congratulations on the improvement in gross margin and the return of profitability. On the gross margin, I know you're not providing a breakdown between the PKR 9,000 and the 5,000, but can we sort of break down the sequential improvement in gross margin? The factors, obviously, last... last quarter there was we were talking about supply chain and logistics parts as a big improvement so how much of the improvement really came from the mix versus coming from you know working out the supply chain issues yeah thanks for the question i would answer that that basically most of it is still due to our cost reduction efforts or our our efforts to
spk02: impact production costs. So I would say that, you know, we continue to expect margin improvement as we, you know, realize lower production costs associated with the east-west arrangement. And then as, you know, for 24 and 25, as our mix continues to improve with the 9,000 product in the SAS business, I think that's where we'll have continued margin improvement over the 24-25 period.
spk05: Got it. And so I guess a big picture, how should we think about, you know, the transition from the PTR 5000 to 9000 and NICS going forward, you know, 24-25? How do we anticipate them sort of living side by side?
spk07: Yeah, thanks for the question, Aaron. So we view these products as addressing two separate markets. So the 5000 has embedded itself not only in our core legacy customers, which is wildland fire, but also in other rural communities. So as firefighters are buying the BKR 5000, we're finding that law enforcement within those communities other fire departments are buying the same radio for their day-to-day operations. So what was used primarily for going on mission for fighting fires is now becoming more of a mainstay radio. On the 9000, that radio is over twice as expensive as the 5000, and it addresses basically a different market. It's really targeted for those customers who are looking at operating in multiple frequency bands because they have to interoperate perhaps with the statewide system or an adjacent county system. And there's no guarantees on what frequency bands these systems would reside on. And again, these radios, the 9000, in that particular case, that's their day-to-day radio. That's what they're using. So although the 9000 can be used for wildland fire, it's really being purchased for day-to-day operations. And so there will be some small overlap between the customer base who are buying the 5,000 and the 9,000, but these are going to be different markets. So if I look going forward, the adoption rate of the 9,000 is still to be determined, but if I looked at the adoption rate of the 5,000 and just kind of break out the base customer base, it was still fairly significant But it took about 18 months before it started to really gain some traction. And so we expect something similar for the 9000, where the initial orders, which we've been seeing, are small quantities, people testing the radio. And then as they build confidence in the radio, they'll start replacing their fleet with the 9000. And so we'll see quarter-over-quarter increases in order volume through 2024, and then we're expecting a larger increase in 2025 as more and more of the people have confidence in the radio. Okay.
spk05: So then, you know, in the shorter term, we talked about gross margin sequentially improving in Q4 and then into 2024 as well. That is all basically being driven from operational items and cost downs rather than revenue mix pretty much.
spk07: Yeah, I think the simplistic way to look at it is our historical margins for the company has been between 35% and 40%. So we're still not there, right? And so we still have activities that we're doing to get us to that point. And then you can layer in the 9,000 margins on top of that. And then you can layer in a factor for our new relationship with East-West. Just because of their production capabilities, we're expecting additional cost downs across the board. And that's why we targeted in 2025, we believe our gross margins for 2025 will be at 50%. So it's a long journey, Aaron, to get there, but we believe there's a path to get there.
spk05: Okay. And then the relationship with EastWest, since they're an existing contract manufacturer, that's why I guess we shouldn't really have any disruption. It's just a six-month process. It's just transferring over more and more lines to them, you know, one at a time. Is that how we should think about it?
spk07: That's exactly right, Aaron. And we're taking one line at a time.
spk05: Okay. Going back to the overall volume, I mean, it seems that we have a slightly better pricing environment this quarter. I know in the past you've talked about that has to do with the accessories that get shipped together with it, but it's nice to see that. But I look at the overall volume and then the guide for the year. It's nice that you talk about being at the high end of the $32,000 to $36,000 range. thousand radios, but considering where you are right now for the year, even the high end of that is kind of below where you've been any quarter so far this year. So how do we think about that, you know, especially with the, you know, the 20 plus million dollar backlog that you have going at the end of the quarter?
spk07: Yeah, I think, you know, when I started this year, you know, I had talked about 8,000 to 10,000 radios shipping every quarter. And If you remember walking into this year, we had this enormous backlog from 2022 because for most of 22, we couldn't ship. We started shipping in Q4. And so we kept at an accelerated pace throughout the year so that we could normalize our backlog. We've been on extended lead times for quite a period. We believe that we'll be through that backlog and back to normalized normalized lead times probably by the first or second quarter of next year. So we were definitely at an elevated rate in the first half of this year just to try and catch up on our backlog. But that's starting to normalize now.
spk05: Okay. So then to the order rate, obviously backlog was down sequentially quarter over quarter, you know, a little bit, about 2 million. We're expecting that to continue as lead times come down or At the same time, though, as lead times are coming down, demand is growing for the 5,000 and up to 9,000 on top of that. So how should we think about backlog going forward and the ordering trends?
spk07: Yeah, so because we are a bit of a seasonal business, right, the peak season for wildland fire and order intakes and shipments is Q2 and Q3. Historically, our weakest quarter for new orders is Q4 and then gets better in Q1 and then goes forward. Because we're still driving our backlog down, we'll continue to have good shipments in the quarter, but the backlog will definitely go down because the fourth quarter order intake tends to be a lot smaller than, say, Q3 or Q2. But we believe it will still be larger than it was year over year. Yeah, year over year.
spk05: Got it. Going back to Scott, on the, you know, obviously nice to see EPS again. In terms of the calculation of the non-cash loss on the FG financial investment, you know, X that. If I were to sort of create a non-GAAP EPS number, Would there be a tax difference or just add back in that $340,000, assume there'd be non-GAAP net income of $430,000 or so and about $0.13 of non-GAAP EPS? Is that a proper calculation or would there be an adjustment on the tax line?
spk02: No, we got tax loss carry forward. That number is correct. I did the same math, and I agree with your math at about 13 cents.
spk05: Got it. Okay. I just definitely put it out there that if that calculation is correct and the FG Financial is just a non-cash, non-operating item, it would behoove the company to report a more reflective non-GAAP EPS number.
spk07: Good point, Aaron. Thank you for that input.
spk05: Okay. Thank you. Congratulations on the progress.
spk07: Thank you, Aaron. Thank you.
spk03: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Brett Weiss from Jannie Montgomery Scott. Your line is live. Hi, John. Hi, Scott.
spk06: Good morning, Brett. John, I haven't had a chance to read the AK on the agreement between us and East-West. When I read it, what are the key clauses in that contract that I should focus on? What, what's important for us in this type of, uh, arrangement and, and, you know, putting yourself in the shoes of East West, what, what was important for them?
spk07: Yeah. Let me, uh, let me just step back a little bit. Um, so first, um, This is not a new relationship. We've been working with EastWest for over two years, and we've had progressive scope increase with them over that period. In fact, the first time I met with their CEO was a year last May during the supply chain crisis, and I was soliciting their help, which they were very nice and accommodating. So we've had a long-term relationship and a successful one in terms of overall performance. And we've been taking advantage of their global reach. They have, I believe, 12 manufacturing facilities across the world. The other comment I would make is when you take a step like this, it's a major step because now we're dependent on EastWest for making our revenues for our company. And we don't take that lightly. And picking the right partner is critical. One of the criteria... that we used or looked at was picking a partner that was a good fit in terms of size in comparison to BK. And so when I say that, I mean, there are a lot larger contract manufacturers out there. But if you look at the size of EastWest and you look at the size of BK, we're in their top 10 of their customer base. And so that was an important factor for me, as I wanted to make sure that when we did have problems in the supply chain, and of course it happens, that they pay attention to us and that we're just not a small customer on their list, but that we are a significant customer on their list. And so those are some of the criteria that we looked at when we started down the path with EastWest. Now, you can get into a lot of the other details which are in the contract, right? There are delivery requirements and quality requirements. But, you know, at the end of the day, I think the important thing for this relationship to be successful is, for one, BK, we should never forget that these are our products. They just happen to be manufactured in a different facility, right? So we own this product. That's one of the reasons why I kept all the machinery and the production lines in our factory so that when we make any changes on our product, we can run it through our own facility first before we introduce it into east-west and into production. And that does two things, right? One, we get confidence that the change actually works. We understand the impacts on it before we start to introduce it into production. And the second is the time to introduce it into production is very short. So your disruption in production is very short. We did not enjoy that under our previous arrangements. It was always a battle between getting validation of new products and production. So I think it's more than what you can see in the contract specifically. I think the contract is a pretty standard contract that you would see between a contract manufacturer and a company. I think we covered all our bases. in terms of ensuring deliveries and quality. And again, I think it's more about the partner we chose and why we chose EastWest in the first place.
spk06: Great. Thank you for the answer. That's all for me.
spk03: Thank you. Thank you. Your next question is coming from Oren Hirschman from AIGH Investment Partners. Your line is live.
spk04: Hi. Congratulations on the progress overall, especially gross margin. Can you tell us, you mentioned another customer, and I assume there's lots of tests going on on the SaaS offering. Can you kind of bring us up to date? Are there multiple customers that are live? Have they added any additional clients so that you could see how this scales for them? Give us whatever you can tell us at this point, and are there a lot of tests going on currently?
spk07: Yeah, I think there's about 20 field trials going on, Oren, roughly. Wow. Yeah, it's pretty significant. Let me, yeah, so from a total revenue standpoint, still very small. It's a handful of customers that have actually paying customers, right? So it's not that big. But let me walk you through, and this we see almost every week, right? We're at a trade show, and we had a state customer come by, And the salesperson pitched Interop One, says, hey, here's a solution that provides on-demand emergency communications using your smartphone and cellular system. And the person was so intrigued that we were invited back to make a presentation to the broader audience at the state level. And so we did that, expecting it would be like a one-hour meeting. The meeting took six hours. And the beauty of the meeting was It started off as an Interop 1 conversation, but it quickly moved to a BCARE 9000. We had not gotten in front of this customer with this new radio. And for the next five hours, they spent time getting that radio operating on the state system, and they were just totally excited about the radio and then the connection of the radio to Interop 1 and that whole vision of tethering these devices together. And so... I kind of look at Interop One on a service on its own. It's still TBD in terms of how much revenue that's going to generate for the business. But in terms of pull-through and our ability to get in front of customers that perhaps it would be more difficult for us to get in front of if we didn't have it, that's really proven itself out. People are interested in this service, and it gives us a great opportunity to present the 9,000s.
spk04: I was going to ask you, specifically, it goes together nicely with the 9000, or it goes even with the 5000, or really the 9000, that's why you keep mentioning it like that.
spk07: Yeah, it's both radios, but to be honest with you, when we're in front of those types of customers, they're interested in multiband radio. So, yeah, it tethers with the BK series radio, so the 5000, the 9000, and any other radio that we bring on under the BKR series radio line.
spk04: Okay, great. I mean, even if it's small revenues, obviously a million or two million of higher margin recurring, you know, with the three and a half million share counts is quite meaningful. And obviously it's nice to pull through the hardware also on the 9,000, the high margin 9,000. Thanks so much.
spk07: Thank you for the question.
spk03: Thank you. That concludes our Q&A session. I'll now hand the conference back to John Suzuki for closing remarks. Please go ahead. Thanks, Matt.
spk07: Thank you all for participating in today's call. We look forward to speaking with you again when we report our Q4. All the best to all of you and have a great day.
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