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Operator
Please stand by. We're about to begin. Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Innovo Incorporated Second Quarter 2022 Financial Results Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. And now at this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Natalia Redman of Crescendo Communications. Please go ahead.
spk08
Thank you, April, and good morning. I'd like to thank everyone for joining us today for the Innovo Second Quarter 2022 Shareholder Update Call. Today's new chief executive officer, Richard Howe, and chief financial officer, Wally Ruiz, will be your presenters on the call. We would also like to remind our shareholders that we anticipate filing our 10-Q with the Securities and Exchange Commission today. Before we begin, I'm going to review the company's safe harbor statement. The statements in this conference call that are non-descriptions of historical facts are forward-looking statements relating to future events, and as such, all forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially. When using this call, the words anticipate, could, enable, estimate, intend, expect, believe, potential, will, should, project, and similar expressions as they relate to ANUVO, Inc. are such forward-looking statements. Investors are cautioned that all forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, which may cause actual results to differ from those anticipated by ANUVO at this time. In addition, other risks are more fully described in ANUVO's public filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, which can be reviewed at www.sec.gov. The company makes no commitment to disclose any revisions to forward-looking statements or any facts, events, or circumstances after the date hereof that bear upon forward-looking statements. In addition, today's discussion will include references to non-GAAP measures. The company believes that such information provides an additional measurement and a consistent historical comparison of its performance reconciliation of the non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures available on today's website. With that, I'll now turn the call over to CEO Richard Howe. Please go ahead, Richard.
Richard Howe
Thank you, Natalia, and thanks, everyone, for joining us here today. We had another exceptionally strong quarter where for the three months ended June 30th, 2022, we delivered $22.7 million in revenue. which was up 79% year over year. Our trailing 12 month year over year growth rate now stands at an impressive 72%. And we have delivered approximately a 15% compounded quarterly growth rate over the last two year period between the second quarter of 2020 and Q2 of 2022. As you know, Inubo provides digital advertising technology and services across channels. Our ValidClick platform principally serves advertising within the search and social channels, while the intent key principally serves within the programmatic channels. Both platforms experienced significant growth in the second quarter, with the intent key and ValidClick up roughly 197 percent and 44 percent respectively year over year the social and search related revenues from valid click represent roughly 62 percent of revenues while the programmatic revenues associated with the intent key represent 38 percent the company's top three clients accounted for approximately 27.4 percent 27.2%, and 13.6% of overall revenue, respectively. The second quarter was seasonally higher than is typical. The second and third quarter periods within advertising tend to be difficult to predict. There is variability year over year in both the timelines associated with advertiser budgets for the year, typically occurring in the first quarter, And there is some inconsistency in consumer purchasing behavior because of the summer months, typically in Q3. We believe this variability has been compounded this year due to various uncertainties related to the economic environment. This seasonality tends to lead to years where sometimes the second quarter is higher than the third quarter and sometimes the opposite sequentially. Gross margins remained healthy in the second quarter at roughly 59%. Adjusted EBITDA was a loss of roughly $100,000. There were extenuating circumstances associated with expenses in the quarter that Wally will discuss in his review of the financials. The company's core strategy remains a growth-oriented strategy. As we have messaged on previous calls, we believe the industry we serve is not prepared for the implications of a consumer privacy-led future where consumer data is no longer available to facilitate behavioral targeting of advertising. Most of an advertiser's return on advertising spend is related to the use of this data. Currently, approximately 75% of the media purchase opportunities within the open web either do not have a consumer cookie ID or that cookie ID does not persist the next day and as a result is no longer targetable.
Wally
Google does not need to kill the cookie.
Richard Howe
The consumer with VPN and incognito tools and the other browser developers have already done that.
Wally
We believe two things are occurring because of this new reality.
Richard Howe
First, the existing incumbent advertising technology and data companies are convincing their clients to use a variation on the existing consumer-based methods. The industry is referring to this as a first-party cookie solution. For those companies, where hundreds of millions sometimes billions of dollars have been invested in the various technologies and data that support this approach, this is the only way to preserve those past investments. Secondly, and because there is already limited media inventory available to these technologies, these same incumbents are all effectively competing for media placements on a consumer cookie ID pool that is shrinking by the day, which means they are only bidding up the price for each other because of a shrinking cookie supply with constant demand. Enuvo has no such limitations. The technical, regulatory, and consumer issues facing first-party solutions suggest that they are challenged from the get-go. Less than 5% of current open web media purchase opportunities are currently targetable in this first-party manner. This solution cannot and will not scale and literally uses a technical workaround that allows the continued use of a consumer's data, something consumers have overwhelmingly told the industry they no longer desire. As a practical matter, this privacy movement has been self-evident in the response from consumers who use an Apple device where they have been asked if they want their applications to track them. The vast majority have voted, and the answer is no. Our opportunity is to take market share during this period where the incumbents continue to use outdated technologies, ill-aligned, with the future and therefore why growth is and remains our number one priority. We continue to deliver exceptional results for clients within the IntentKey platform where in the second quarter we performed on average 66% better than our clients KPIs. We ran over 80 open web campaigns in the quarter. We also put out a press release challenge to the industry in the quarter where we offered to compete head to head with any company, wherein if a nouveau lost, it would pay the invoice.
Wally
We had no takers.
Richard Howe
New customer acquisition was a highlight in Q2. We expanded further into the automotive, consumer packaged goods, financial services, political, and tourism verticals. We hired an experienced sales leader in Q1, and have now organized all of our sales and account management under her. We remain active in our recruiting within this group so we can meet the opportunities we see before us. We've sponsored a first of its kind conference on artificial intelligence within advertising, which took place in New York City and proved to be a huge success based on the number and variety of industry leaders in attendance. This subject was also top of mind at the Con Leon Advertising Festival we attended in July. We have increased our marketing spending in support of our growth-oriented focus. Product development activity continued across both platforms. Within ValidClick, we added new features and tools that enhance automated, analytically-based media buying within the search and social channels. Scaling campaigns, both in numbers and through automation, has been an ongoing focus of the ValidQuiz platform engineering team. Within the intent key, we launched a new graphical interface to the insights generated by the artificial intelligence that was well received by clients who can now interact with the information being generated by the AI in real time. We also started to commercialize a neural network-based media mix modeling solution, which we expect to make available to clients within the existing reporting dashboard they already use. As the number of media channels has exploded, so too has the challenge to figure out how to optimize media spending across those channels. This is not only a highly nonlinear problem, but it's also another problem being impacted by the cookie because traditional accounting for attribution between channels involves counting the cookies linked to that channel, a method also on its last legs. This sophisticated and AI-based approach to the media optimization challenge facing the industry will be yet another significant differentiator for ANUVO. Managing multimedia is akin to conducting an orchestra. You want to turn down the horn section when it's sounding a little flat. The challenge is how to figure out when and by how much it's flat. This is the problem we figured out. I would like to now turn the call over to Wally for a more detailed assessment of our financial performance within the quarter.
Wally
Thank you, Rich. Good morning, everyone. I'll recap the financial results for the second quarter of 2022. As Rich mentioned, Inuvo reported revenue of $22.7 million for the quarter ended June 30th, 2022. That's an increase of 79% compared to $12.6 million reported in the second quarter of the prior year. Both platforms serving our multi-channel solution, Valid Click and IntentKey, exceeded the prior year. Valid Click revenue exceeded the second quarter of last year by 44%, and the IntentKey revenue exceeded the prior year quarter by approximately 197%, primarily due to new customers expanding their media spend. Revenue split between the IntentKey And Valid Click was 38% and 62%, respectively, for the second quarter of 2022. And that compares to 23% and 77%, respectively, for the same period last year. Our revenue is less concentrated in 2022 than ever before. Our largest client, a retailer, represented 27% of our total revenue in the quarter. The same quarter last year, our largest client was Google and represented 38% of our revenue. Google remains an important customer and in the second quarter represented 14% of our second quarter revenue. Gross profit for the second quarter ended June 30th, 2022, total $13.4 million as compared to $10.4 million for the same period last year. Gross profit margin for the second quarter this year was 59%, and that compares to 82% for the same quarter last year. The IntentKey platform has a lower gross margin than the ValidClick platform, but has a greater overall net margin. The NUVO gross margin decreases as IntentKey revenue becomes a greater percentage of the total revenue. In quarters past, cost of revenue was predominantly payments to website publishers and app developers that hosted advertisements that we served through the ValidClick platform, yielding a very high gross margin. As the programmatic channels associated with the intent key continue to grow, they become a larger percent of our revenue and cost of revenue. Intent-key cost of revenue is predominantly payments to advertising exchanges that provide access to a supply of advertising inventory into which we serve on behalf of our clients advertisements using information predicted by the intent-key artificial intelligence. This is a greater cost than the historical payments we have been making to publishers associated with ValidClick. But at the same time, on a net basis, it is more profitable. The very high valid click gross margin also has a high cost of traffic acquisition, which is accounted for in operating expenses as a marketing expense. The intent key is not burdened with any of those types of expenses, traffic acquisition expenses. Our gross margins are also dependent upon the mix of advertising channels serving the client. Many of our clients require a multi-channel digital media solution. One of our advantages is the ability to serve highly targeted prescriptive ads across multiple channels, such as video, mobile, connected TV, linear TV, display, social, search, and native. Each of these channels yield varying gross margins depending on supply and demand. The optimization of the media mix for clients can vary from client to client and from time to time. Generally, search and social are lower margin channels as we have to work within the walled gardens of the large Internet platforms that support these channels. We have better opportunities for margin expansion in other channels on the open web. We expect the nouveau gross margins for the remainder of the year to be roughly in line with the results of the first and second quarters of this year. Operating expenses were $16.2 million in the second quarter of 2022, compared to $12.8 million in the prior year. That's an increase of $3.4 million. The largest component of operating expenses, marketing costs. Note, as I previously mentioned, marketing costs are predominantly traffic acquisition costs associated with ValidClick. Marketing costs were $11 million in the second quarter of this year compared to $8.2 million in the same quarter last year. This brings us to the first of two matters that impacted the second quarter. Within the quarter, we purchased and placed approximately $2 million of media from one of the largest and a well-known platform provider. The technologies we have for measuring quality of the media we purchased determined that the media platform provider sent us large volumes of fraudulent traffic. The media platform gave us a credit of approximately $600,000 for the fraudulent traffic. And as a result, the net amount of $1.4 million, that's the difference between the total amount of $2 million that we purchased versus the credit of $600,000, the net amount of $1.4 million was absorbed into marketing expense with no corresponding revenue associated with it. While the media platform provider has acknowledged their the fraudulent traffic issue and granted us this partial credit, we firmly believe we are due a full refund for all the fraudulent data and media we had purchased. And we intend to utilize all the avenues available to us to pursue our claims. In the meantime, we have held back an equivalent amount of payments we owe this platform provider pending resolution. Going forward, we expect marketing costs as a percent of revenue to continue to decline as revenue from the Intent-Key platform continues to grow in overall share of ANUVA revenue relative to ValleyClick. Compensation expense was $3.2 million in the second quarter this year compared to $2.9 million in the prior year, primarily due to higher employee salary costs and higher stock-based compensation expense. Our full-time and part-time employment was 83 at June 30, 2022, compared to 73 on June 30 of last year. The majority of the increase in headcount occurred within sales, sales support, and account management for the intent key. General and administrative expense increased by $334,000 in the second quarter of this year, compared to the prior year due to higher bad debt allowance, travel and entertainment expense, and professional fees, partially offset by $269,000 of lower amortization expense. Net interest was income of $3,000 in the second quarter of this year compared to $8,000 expense in the same quarter last year. Turning now to other income and expense This brings us to the second matter that impacted the quarter. As we disclosed last year, we identified a portion of our cash that would not be needed during the next 12 months and transferred that cash to a fund manager. Since the third quarter of last year, we have been reporting unrealized gains as the securities are marked to market at quarter end. However, with the recent increase in interest rates and the downturn in the stock market, these same securities reported an unrealized loss at the end of June of approximately $395,000. However, as of last Friday, that portfolio had regained approximately $300,000 in value. We reported a net loss of $3.2 million, or 3 cents per basic share, compared to $2.4 million net loss, or 2 cents per basic share, in the same quarter last year. Recall, this year's quarter includes a $1.4 million expense for fraudulent traffic that we expect to receive full reimbursement for, and a $395,000 unrealized loss on marketable securities. Neither of these two expenses diminished cash. Though we did recognize the expense, we did not and shall not pay the invoices for the fraudulent media. Net income in this year's quarter also includes $1.3 million of non-cash depreciation, amortization, and stock compensation. The adjusted EBITDA loss for the quarter ended June 30th, 2022 was $142,000 compared to a loss of $965,000 last year. On June 30th, 2022, we had cash and cash equivalents and marketable securities of approximately $8.4 million and a net working capital of $8.9 million. In addition, We have a $5 million working capital line of credit, which we currently have no outstanding balance on. We maintain a simple cap structure with almost 120 million common shares outstanding, 5.1 million employee restricted stock units outstanding through an equity incentive plan, and 300,000 warrants to purchase common stock. With that, I'd like to turn the call back over to Rich for closing remarks.
Richard Howe
Thanks, Wally. At 75% year-over-year growth in the first quarter and now 79% in the second quarter, we've had a very strong first half of 2022. Our trailing 12-month growth rate now stands at 72%, and our two-year compounded quarterly growth rate is now at 15%. but we had an adjusted EBITDA loss of $100,000 in the second quarter. We continue to develop and deploy artificial intelligence-based innovations that serve to further the gap between our capabilities and those of our competitors, who for the most part appear to be doubling down on existing methods and technologies. Our balance sheet remains strong enough to accommodate the working capital needs of the growing business, and as a result, we have no immediate plans to raise capital. With that, I will now turn it over to the operator for questions. April?
Operator
Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, simply press the star key followed by the digit 1 on your telephone keypad. Also, if you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Once again, press star 1 at this time. We'll pause for a moment. Brian Kingslinger of Alliance Global Partners has our first question.
Brian Kingslinger
Good morning, guys, and thanks for taking my questions. My first question, I'd say you've successfully articulated why the older technologies or legacy technologies out there will have difficulty in the new world of privacy laws and lack thereof cookies. Although you've talked about it in the past, maybe you could do, maybe it would be helpful for you to articulate at a high level how IntentKey is able to bypass this so-called first-party data and be so successful.
Richard Howe
Yeah, Brian. Clearly, we're talking about artificial intelligence here, so the answer to the question, unfortunately, is a complicated one. One, You know, conventional technologies are based on identity, and we have no such construct, meaning we built the technology from the get-go to not be dependent upon figuring out who someone is, who a person is. The only information our technology needs to achieve its objective is actually the content of the Internet, and maybe more specifically, when it's trying to make a decision about placing an ad on a page, is the content on the page where the ad is available to be purchased. And in a nutshell, the brain, if you will, behind the technology has this ability to understand the relationship between every concept in the human lexicon and every other concept. And what that allows us to do is actually open up opportunities for ad placement against an objective in a way that's never been done before, in large part because of the construct and constraint of using people as the center of the data. That's the best I can do, you know, in whatever, in two minutes.
Brian Kingslinger
Yeah, so basically it's information and based as opposed to people-based? Where are you searching? What are you searching? What page are you on?
Richard Howe
No, it's none of that. It's none of that, Brian. I should make that clear because those are behavioral elements. We don't care about what you're searching for or why you're searching for it. Again, the only thing our technology needs is the content of a page that's available and freely there to read. It may be said a different way. While our technology is not contextual in the classic sense of the way ad tech knows contextual. It is contextually based in the sense that it needs and does read the information that's available. But no, none of those behavioral things that you're mentioning are necessary in our technology, which is why technology is so powerful and ready for this new future.
Brian Kingslinger
Now, the growth of IntentKey has been super over the last six quarters. Really, the adoption, the execution, you know, as ad spending has picked up, has been solid. So I don't want to say it hasn't. But if I exclude the sequential period from the fourth quarter of 2021 to the first quarter of 2022, I exclude that period, sequential growth slow. Now, you've talked about the uncertainty in 2Q and 3Q with economic uncertainty. So maybe it would be helpful to understand the dynamics in 2Q that maybe saw –
Richard Howe
slower sequential growth than you've enjoyed for so long is it the larger law of large numbers is it changing economy just maybe any detail would help you know provide some context to that well as you pointed out it's hard to say that there's anything amiss when you know when we had a 79 you know year-over-year growth rate um and i think you don't you know look over the last two years that's why i provided this number in my conference notes i mean we've seen a 15 quarterly compounded growth rate for the company and a lot of that is you know on the back of the programmatic channels i.e the intent key but i think it is important to recognize and i keep re-emphasizing this in my communications that managing digital media for clients now means you have to manage across channels and the search and social channels they're not going away i mean these large platforms notably Google on the search side, the dominant platform, and to a lesser extent, Bing and others. And then, of course, Facebook on the social side. These are platforms that clients want to use and should be using, and they're going to remain to be a big part of the overall mix of the media relative to the open web-based advertising channels. So I don't know. You can't look at it in any individual period, quarter to quarter. Specifically, as it relates to my statements about Q2 and Q3, the real issue in the third quarter always is about July and August and September, probably most notably September, because September is almost always a large month because you're heading into the – they call it the money month for advertisers. It's just very difficult to predict. you know, especially July and August with all of the consumer, you know, vacation schedules and whatnot. And that's why I made the point, which makes it hard to predict Q2 and Q3 relative to one another in any given period.
Brian Kingslinger
Got it. Okay. So I want to touch on the intent key KPIs. I'm not sure that it's things that, well, it's something we've talked about the last several quarters. So maybe you can talk about new logo wins. You made a comment, did the pace of new logos per month remain consistent or in the second quarter and thus far in the third quarter compared to the previous few quarters? Is it slower? And then maybe campaign sizes. Are you seeing those increase as well?
Richard Howe
We're seeing budgets increase. With that said, I think the economic environment we're in, we do see our clients starting to think about whether or not we're in or headed for a recession, but we don't yet see them acting on it. I guess they're like the rest of us. You know, we're not quite sure what's going on. We have, you know, increasing, you know, or reduce, you know, unemployment with jobs, but yet at the same time, we got high interest rates and shrinking GDP. So we're not quite sure it's an anomaly. Um, so our clients are thinking about it just like we are, but we're not really seeing the actions of that. The actions would normally be, you know, reduced marketing expense. Um, It's hard for us to measure anything with the kind of growth that we had relative to some other period when we weren't growing this much, which, as I pointed out, is now a two-year period. All I can say is we continue to add new clients, and I said it on the call. We've added some CPG and political and automotive clients and travel clients. And we do see, you know, not among all of our clients, but we do see, you know, our clients generally adding budgets. you know, in the clients that we've taken on.
Brian Kingslinger
Great. That's great. Your last question I have for now is you mentioned your largest customer was a retail customer. So I assume that's in Ted Keith, not a search. What percent of revenue was that customer in the second quarter of 2021? I kind of want to see what they're generating in terms of the growth and then Maybe can you give us a sense if there's any other concentration in Intenti itself? Thank you.
Richard Howe
I don't believe we give client-based numbers like that, Brian, and I don't think we're going to start on this call. I would say this, though. To the best of my knowledge, I'd have to go back and check, but I think the client in question did actually grow significantly. although Wally can probably – maybe he knows that, maybe he doesn't, and I don't want to be held to that because I'm not sure because I don't have the numbers in front of me. I'd have to go look at them in the periods that you're asking for. And then I'm sorry, Brian, what was the other question? There was another question in there that I wanted to ask.
Brian Kingslinger
I'm just trying to – yeah, I was trying to understand if there's other concentration in 10-key or inside in 10-key. That customer obviously is the largest. Are there another one or two or three that make up a big percentage of in 10-key's revenue?
Richard Howe
Yeah, there's a couple of them. I mean, I think it's like any other business that, you know, I've ever been a part of developing that's at this stage. And this stage for us means, you know, what, I guess 22.7 million in a quarter. Yeah, there's, you know, there's a handful of three or four or five customers who, I don't know, are the, let's call it the, you know, 70-30 or 60-40 of the revenue. Great.
Wally
Okay. Brian, I don't know if I could tell you that the large retailer, came on since the second quarter of last year. So it's ramped up.
Brian Kingslinger
So they went basically from zero to 27% of revenue, whatever it was.
Wally
Yeah, that's right.
Brian Kingslinger
Wow.
Wally
That's right.
spk04
Wow, great. Okay. Thank you. Thanks, Brian.
Operator
As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, press star then one on your telephone keypad. And again, that's to ask a question or make a comment, star one. We will now move on to Jack Vanderaarde of Maxim.
Jack Vanderaarde
Great. Good morning, guys. Really good to see the strong results. Thanks for taking my questions. So as I said, great top line results. Good to see strength across both Val's click and intent key. Question on the gross margin result, which was ahead of my expectation. Did Intenti have a more favorable channel mix and channel mix? Just because I know gross margin is so sensitive depending on that channel mix. You're a full multi-channel platform service now. So just wondering what that kind of mix was and was that the result? Did that drive gross margin up better than I would have expected? Or is it more just because of the high margin valid click margin?
Wally
Yeah, we got actually the intent key did better in gross margin in the second quarter that showed improvement. But what you're looking at is the result of the mix between the valid click and intent key revenue. So it's a mix of the business set. And as I had mentioned in prior calls, you should expect that trend to continue as the intent key becomes a larger portion of the total revenue for Nuvo. But intent key itself actually did see some improvement in the second quarter.
spk05
Great, great.
Jack Vanderaarde
I appreciate the call there. Rich, you mentioned you're seeing budgets increase, but you don't necessarily see the end customers acting on the increasing budget quite yet. You know, maybe for the intent-key product revenue specifically, are you seeing new intent-key customer orders coming in? You know, how many in the second quarter? And then, you know, are you expecting those budgets to be acted on and drive increased intent-key orders during the back half of the year? I'm assuming yes, but maybe, you know, how much are like on the potential intent-key orders you think are on the sidelines just waiting for, you know, the trigger to be pulled?
Richard Howe
There's lots of sort of call it variables at play here in answering this question adequately. I'll start with the first of them. Look, the change that's occurring in the industry is creating some demand for our technology, and that would be irrespective of any seasonality or budget or other issues. Think the smarter companies on the planet who recognize technology. this challenge that's facing the industry are already starting to look for solutions that can address those challenges. So we have that tailwind, if you will, behind us, pushing us forward. The economics of the U.S. GDP and whether or not we're in a recession or not, we have no control over that. I think my comments for that was more about what we see is, like a lot of us people are aware that there could be an issue, but they're not necessarily seeing it day to day yet. So they're thinking about it and talking about it, but it doesn't seem to be impacting at least the baseline for the amount of budget that they've allocated to us. Whether or not that will change, I don't know. All I can say is at this point, We're not seeing those economic concerns impacting us. They could in Q3 and Q4.
Wally
I guess we'll all find out, you know, as we progress.
spk05
That's helpful, Connor.
Jack Vanderaarde
And then maybe another one for Wally. Just on the operating expenses, as you pointed out, increased quite a bit, but mostly because there's fraudulent data from the large media customer. It sounds like you expect a full refund of about $1.4 million for that. And then just looking at the back half of 2022, do you expect marketing costs to look similar to last year or maybe a little bit of growth on that last year? Just wondering how you're thinking of the marketing expense.
Wally
Yeah, marketing expense, as a dollar amount, we do expect it to increase, yes. But not as significantly as we saw in the prior year, in 2021. But yes, as a dollar amount, yes, we do expect it to increase quarter for the next couple of quarters.
spk05
Okay, and then just one more question.
Richard Howe
I might add, if I could just add a statement onto Wally's question. When we do talk about marketing expenses, we do tend to fragment that a little bit. Of course, the lion's share of our marketing expenses are related to the purchase of media within social and search. But there's another component of marketing that we spend dollars on in any given year, and that's the marketing of our own company. And we have increased that spending. I don't know if uh materially is the word but significantly it was never a big number and so relatively speaking it's a big number year over year i'm not sure what it is wally and i'm not sure i don't know if we disclose it or not but i know it's going to be around a million or something for the year which is a lot more than we spent in prior years and we've done that in large part you know so that we can get our brand out there you know as being this company that has a solution to the problem facing the industry because you know, we're not well-recognized yet, you know, in an industry that spends $300 or $400 billion a year.
spk05
Okay, understood. I appreciate the added color there. Go ahead, Juan.
Wally
Yeah, Jack, as a percent of revenue, it will continue to be lower, but the dollar amount will increase modestly for the reasons Rich just mentioned.
Jack Vanderaarde
Okay, got it. Well, I appreciate the added color, gentlemen, and good to see the top line continues to grow at a pretty robust rate.
spk04
I'll hop back in the queue. Thanks.
Operator
At this time, it appears there are no further questions. I'll turn the call back over to Richard for any additional or closing comments.
Richard Howe
Okay, thank you, April. And, of course, as always, I want to thank everyone who joined us today on the call, and we appreciate your continued interest in our company.
Operator
And that does conclude today's call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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