Mastech Digital, Inc

As a reminder, we will not be providing guidance during this call, nor will we provide guidance in any subsequent one-on-one meetings or calls. I will now turn the call over to Jack for a review of our first quarter 2023 results.

Thanks, Jen, and good morning, everyone. First quarter 2023 was clearly a disappointing quarter for MassTech Digital. Revenues totaled $55.1 million, representing an 8% revenue decline compared to $59.8 million reported in Q1 2022. Both of our business segments were impacted by economic uncertainty, including customer concerns regarding inflationary conditions and a possible recession. Our data and analytic services segment contributed revenues of $9.4 million compared to $10.2 million in the 2022 first quarter, as order bookings in the second half of 2022 were short of expectations, which had an impact on our Q1 2023 results. For the first quarter of 2023, revenues in our IT staffing services segment totaled $45.7 million compared to $49.6 million in the first quarter of 2022. Demand declined during the quarter, which resulted in a reduction of 84 billable consultants. Gross profit in the first quarter of 2023 totaled $13.5 million compared to $15.9 million in the first quarter of 2022. Gross margins as a percent of revenue in Q1 2023 was 24.5 percent compared to 26.7 percent in the 2022 first quarter. This margin variance was largely due to lower utilization and lower project margins on several long-term assignments in our data and analytic services segment, and a reduction in direct hire revenues and lower utilization rates on several financial clients in our IT staffing services segment. Gap net income for the first quarter of 2023 was $261,000, or 2 cents per diluted share, compared to $2.3 million, or 19 cents per diluted share, in Q1 2022. Non-gap net income for Q1 2023 was $1.4 million, or 12 cents per diluted share, compared to $3.3 million, or $0.28 per diluted share, in the first quarter of 2022. SG&A expense items not included in Q1 non-GAAP financial measures, net of tax benefits, or one stock-based compensation, and two, the amortization of acquired intangible assets, and they're detailed in our first quarter, 2023, earnings release, which is available on our website. It should be noted that both gap net income and non-gap net income in Q1 2023 were impacted by a $400,000 pretax expense for professional services related to an outstanding employment claim asserted by a former employee. Addressing our financial position, At March 31, 2023, we had $9.1 million of cash balances on hand, no bank debt outstanding, and borrowing availability of $31.5 million under our revolving credit facility. Our day sales outstanding measurement was 61 days at quarter end, which is well within our target range of 60 to 65 days. During the first quarter, we didn't execute on our share repurchase program due to an extended trading blackout period. We expect to have the ability to execute on the share repurchase program in the near term. I'll now turn the call over to Viv for his comments.

Good morning, everyone. Thank you, Jack, for the detailed financial review of our operating results for Q1 2023. The first quarter of 2023 was a challenging quarter to say the least. Our IT staffing services segment saw a notable decline in demand during Q1, as the possibility of a recession appears to be weighing heavily on clients' spending dynamics. With approximately half of our billing consultants employed in the financial services industry, recent bank failures have also had an adverse impact on our IT staffing business. Our data analytics segment performance was also impacted, largely due to the order booking shortfalls that occurred in the second half of 2022. Activity levels, however, were more robust with respect to the building of a pipeline of opportunities during the first quarter. Michael will talk more about the state of affairs in the data and analytics services business in a few minutes. While we cannot say when the economic outlook will improve, We can say that our businesses remain fundamentally sound, our financial clients are among the strongest in the industry, and we have a solid balance sheet and access to ample capital to fund our current business needs and support the share repurchase program we announced earlier this year. Let me now turn the call over to Michael for his comments related to the data and analytics services segment. Over to you, Michael.

Thanks, Vivek, and good morning, everyone. As Vivek mentioned, current economic conditions are strong headwinds for most businesses today. However, in the data and analytics space, while economic conditions are notable, they are not as impactful as they are to the IT staffing industry. Areas of emphasis that I've been addressing since I joined MassTech Digital are, one, expanding the pipeline of opportunities, two, improving the efficiency of the sales engine slash pipeline engine that we have across the company, three, filling needs and leadership talent, And four, enhancing communication across the various facets of the organization. In a very short time, we have been able to upgrade leadership talent across sales, marketing, technology, as well as in delivery. Expand and develop our sales engine and improve communication across the entire organization. I am happy to say that our new messaging to existing clients and client prospects appears to be gaining traction. While Q1 2023 results were well below our expectations, it is noteworthy to point out that revenues, bookings, gross margins, and utilization rates all improved sequentially from the fourth quarter of 2022. Additionally, our pipeline notably increased in Q1, which we believe bodes well for us for the next few quarters. While we do not give specific guidance I am confident that we will continue to build our pipeline in the second quarter of 2023. And I believe that going forward, we will be well positioned to win a fair portion of the enhanced pipeline of opportunities. I'll now turn the call back over to Vivek.

Thank you, Michael. Operator, this concludes our prepared remarks. We can take questions now.

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Lisa Thompson with Zaks Investment Research. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning. I have a number of questions about the quarter. I'll start with probably the most important since everyone's wondering. You said that half of your consultants are on financial services type companies. I assume that includes the 10% of CGI, right?

Yes, it does.

Can you describe a little bit who these financial customers are? Just generically, I mean, there's a lot of concern about the second tier banks as people pull deposits from them. Talk a little about maybe what you do for who.

So we actually have... We're working with a lot of banks, the premier first-level banks, either directly or through systems integrators such as CGI that we mentioned. And... We have our exposure to mid-level banks or regional-level banks is a lot lower. And it's mainly, I think, our top, one of our top banks is PNC Bank. By far. By far. And then we have, after that, we have a few other in the premier, in the top-level banks. So the comment that I made a little earlier that we feel that banks our financial customers are pretty strong. And although we are all watching this banking crisis unfold, we are pretty confident that we will not be that affected. And once this crisis settles down, we will be back to what we've been doing in terms of servicing these customers.

Yeah. And Lisa, we have some insurance companies that are included in a financial services segment. And you know, they're solid. And, you know, as far as the companies that, you know, had severe problems and were taken over by the government and, you know, were struggling, we have no exposure to those clients.

Great. Good to hear. So how many consultants did you end the quarter with?

Jack, do you have the exact number? At the end of the quarter?

Yeah. Yeah. Sure, let me grab it here.

Billable consultants in the IT staffing services segment, 1,125. Okay.

And then can you explain what happened with the tax rate this quarter? What's up with that?

The tax rate?

Yeah. Yeah, you know what, Lisa? We had some losses in the foreign subsidiaries, and we provided what accounting calls valuation allowances for them, which means we don't recognize the benefit associated with some of those losses. And because our pre-tax income was very low this quarter, the percentage of our effective tax rate got exaggerated by some of those valuation allowances that we made.

So do you think the year still comes out to like 27.5%?

I think the year comes out more in line with what we've had in the past, which is 27, 28. It may be a little bit more but it's not going to be 45%. Okay. All right.

For the full year, Lisa, for the full year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right. So an SG&A is a little high, and you said you have $400,000 in the quarter for legal expense, I guess. Does that same level of expense continue until the case is settled? No.

I think it continues for a while. I don't know if it's going to be $400,000, but it's going to continue for a while. So we should expect some level of professional services expense associated with this matter, the employment claim matter, in Q2.

All right. And do you have any plans at all at pulling back on expenses like you did during the pandemic level?

You know, in IT staffing, we are pulling back right now. You know, if you look at our sales and operating expenses, and operating in IT staffing is recruiting cost, that was reduced by $600,000. or about 8% of revenues, which is the revenue decline that we experienced in IT staffing. The only negative was we got hit with higher corporate-related expenses, and it's largely insurance programs and cybersecurity insurances is on the rise like crazy, and we have some increases in public costs, sort of expenses that you know, we don't have full control over. So, you know, we are making an attempt to reduce our SG&A expenses and IT staffing. On the data and analytic services segment, you know, we had an increase of $600,000 in the quarter year over year, but $400,000 was the professional services expense related to the employment claim. And Going forward, DNA is going to invest in SG&A. So there's going to be an increase in Q2 and Q3, at least over the next couple quarters, because we're bringing in new talent and filling some of the leadership gaps that we had or that were identified by Michael. So to get where we want to be going forward, We have to make these investments now.

Okay. So hopefully that results in higher growth margins along the way too.

I would hope so.

Okay. All right. I think that's all my questions. Thank you.

Thank you, Lisa.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mark Riddick with Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning. Hi, Mark. Hi, Mark.

So I was wondering if you'd, and certainly it's understandable given the environment to, you know, maybe shy away from this a little bit, but, you know, in the past you certainly have looked at the potential for acquisitions to boost your future opportunities. I was wondering if you'd talk a little bit about maybe what you're thinking about that right now and maybe what the pipeline may look like and what the appetite is for doing something in the near term.

Well, Mark, acquisition is very much part of our plan. That hasn't changed. It's just that at this point in time, there are a couple of things that we are working with. One is, of course, the decline that we spoke about on the IT staffing side, and that we are very carefully looking at our costs and seeing how we realign the organization as we address the decline in demand. On the other side, on the data analytics side, Michael has been on board for a few months now, and he's put in place a number of initiatives that he spoke about. And I think we are just going to give ourselves a little bit more time before we come back to the process of the acquisitions one more time. But it's not off the table, but I think it's really a question of a little bit more time before we get back to it.

Okay, great. Then I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about maybe, you talked about the improvement sequentially. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about the cadence through the quarter. Is there any read-throughs that we should be thinking about there?

Sorry, Mark, I didn't fully understand your question.

The cadence of activity by month, I guess, through the quarter, was it Was it flattish? Did it improve? Did it get worse when you went from January, February to March?

Okay, so I think this question, if you're talking about the buying pattern from our customers, the order booking. Yeah, okay. So let me touch upon the IT staffing, and then I'm going to let Michael respond to how he's seeing on the data analytics side. But on the IT staffing side, there has been some pickup in demand. from Q4. That's when I compare Q1 with the previous quarter. But it's not been significant enough to move the needle. So we are hoping that we will see more as we go forward. But again, no one has a crystal ball. So we are still at a point where the demand is way lower than what the demand was a year ago. So that's the situation as far as the IT staffing. And Michael, can you talk about the DNA side?

Sure. From a data and analytics perspective, we're specifically focused on data modernization as a piece of digital transformation overall. Within the data modernization space, within the Forbes 1500 or even the Forbes 2000, the amount of demand, even in light of a potential recession, is not going to impact the amount of opportunity that we have in front of us, not only across our existing customers, but also within potential new logo prospects that we're also targeting. So simple answer, no, not foreseeing any decline in demand that would impact our potential ability to drive net new opportunity that will also drive net new growth within the data and analytics segment, if that answers your question, Mark.

Yeah, no, that's helpful. And first, you know, it's good to have you on the call and welcome. I was wondering if you could sort of give me a sense of are you seeing much in the way of the types of assignments shifting? Are you beginning to see customers that are maybe shifting from an offensive to a defensive posture, or are they sort of focusing more maybe on cost savings efforts or things of that nature, or is it too early for that?

Mark, specifically for data analytics or specifically for IT staffing?

Yeah, within data analytics I was thinking about.

Yeah, so, I mean, when you look at digital transformation, you've got basically two sides of a coin, right? You've got application modernization and then you have the data modernization aspect. Customers are focusing on both, but the lion's share is, is around application modernization first and foremost and then working on the data modernization once they have their applications modernized. And so to answer your question about are they on offense or defense, it is very much so they're trying to be proactive in modernizing their overall solutions and their ability to unlock decisioning from their data more so than they are about trying to save money because If they don't modernize now, if they don't invest now to make the modernization initiatives, then they're not going to be able to be competitive in the marketplace, which will impact their ability to continue to make money and grow from their own perspectives. And so it's not really – it is about cost savings, but it's about cost savings through modernization, and that modernization requires investment first. So it's a little bit of chicken before the egg or egg before the chicken, but they have to modernize. They have to. It's either modernize and survive or have your business taken up by those that modernized faster or didn't need to modernize in the first place because they were new entrants and don't have the legacy challenges that you had. That's the situation on the market. And that situation is fairly applicable across all industries.

Okay, and then last one for me. You made mention as far as the shareable purchase at a blackout period or what have you. Could you sort of maybe talk generally as to maybe what your thought process is there or maybe expectations are? I mean, certainly we've seen it. a pullback and opportunities as far as a lower share price to work with. But it's wonderful to sort of talk about maybe a sort of big picture thoughts as to the authorization and goals there. Thanks.

Yeah. I mean, we had to share by that program, you know, approved by the board, you know, 500,000 shares over a two year period. I think it's, You know, the board, as management, feels that our stock price is depressed over the long term, and I think there's an opportunity to pick up shares at what we believe is a bargain share price. So, you know, we plan on moving forward with that. You know, current market conditions aren't scaring us off, and that's our intention.

Okay, great. Thank you very much. Thank you, Marvin.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ross Davison with Benetton Capital. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, guys. Good morning. First question was just, you know, just building on the sort of trend or feeling of bookings and revenue through the quarter. Anything in April sort of changing with that? Have you noticed either a positive or negative in each segment in terms of like the revenue cadence? or booking status?

Okay, Ross, let me again talk about the IT staffing first. On the IT staffing, we actually have not seen much of a change from what we saw in the previous three months or previous quarter. So we are where we are in terms of bookings. As far as the data analytics side is concerned, Michael, would you want to give some color to that?

I would say that the slope from Q4 to Q1 is trending in the right direction. And without going into specifics in April, that slope is the same. It's keeping our eye on the ball and maintaining the focus with our existing customers and also in trying to get net new bookings. to not only continue to maintain that slope into the rest of the quarter, but also to try and make it a little steeper in the upper direction.

Great. That's helpful. Thank you. And, Michael, specifically on DNA, I think that you had said something about, you know, it's improving, but, like, are you seeing anything in terms of length and scale cycles? or anything like that? People need to do data modernization, but are they sort of delaying any decisioning just because of the economy?

So I would say no, they're not delaying the decisioning.

What I will tell you potentially is impacting them is if they have 10 projects on the table, Because of concerns in the economy, maybe they're holding back on their lowest priority project or their lowest two priority projects. But, you know, the other eight are still moving forward. That we're seeing for sure. But that's to be expected in any kind of uncertainty in the economy. And we've seen that multiple times, you know, even pre-COVID and certainly through COVID. As far as sales cycle itself, no, no change to the sales cycle. It's still about the same.

Okay, great. And then in IT staffing, you referenced the banking turmoil as being especially a problem given all the concentration of financial services. Most of the actual crisis was in March. Were you seeing financial services challenges or anything in particular about financial services in terms of challenges ahead of that activity in March with SBB and the other banks?

Well, I think the financial services sector was being very cautious anyway. And we saw that not just in January and February, but we saw that in Q4, too. But it kind of got heightened in March. And then it continued. I mean, we've seen April has been, I guess, in some ways worse. So, yes, it was happening. There was the tightening of the belt was happening. A lot of projects were being put on the back burner. focus was on keeping the bank running rather than building the bank, as the terminology they use. And then things changed a little bit, became intensified in March and continued in April.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, and then last question I had was just on gross margin in data analytics. It was down, and we talked a little bit about this, but just to build on that, it was down a lot year over year, and I think it was up a little bit sequentially, but you mentioned utilization, and also I think you said lower margin and some long-term engagement. Can you just explain more about the latter one there? Are those new engagements that are just at lower margin? Is there something changing about those long-term engagements? What is that exactly?

Yeah. Sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Vivek.

No, go ahead, Michael.

Okay, so what I would say is it's actually both. It's actually both, right? And so on one hand, we've got a heavy focus on ensuring that our utilization is improving and increasing. Utilization has an immediate direct impact to gross margin, right? So a maniacal focus on utilization across the board, a maniacal focus on long-term projects to ensure that We're automating, driving automation, driving accelerators, being able to do the project internally better, faster, cheaper, and more efficiently, which is also improving margins on longer-term engagements. And we're doing those engagements, for lack of a better word, we're doing those engagements better and more efficiently internally. So a heavy, heavy focus on that, as well as a heavy focus on all net new business to ensure that we're winning business on value and not on price, right? Which also helps drive better margins.

Yeah, and let me add to that. You know, specifically with respect to our gross margins, in Q4, our gross margins were 37%. And in Q1 of 2023, our gross margins were... 38.5%. So we improved from the sequential quarter. But if you look at where we ended March and even February, we were pretty close to where we ended March. Our March gross margins were a little bit over 42%. So it's a margin improvement that you really can't see specifically in Q1 financials, but it's there. And as far as the The long-term assignments that I was talking about, we have a handful of multiple-year assignments that we refer to as center of excellence projects. Some of these projects have escalation clauses, and some of them don't. The couple that don't have escalation clauses, we're seeing some cost increase. that we can't recover through a higher bill rate. And so it's impacting our overall gross margins somewhat. But it's not the norm.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. That's really helpful. And just on the cadence of gross margins through the quarter, is that improvement coming from I guess, like anything specific driving that improvement? Because, you know, I guess bookings are improving. But anyway, Jack, anything you can say around that?

Like what's driving that improvement? I mean, utilization is definitely a driver. And, you know, I think our, you know, project margins were up as well.

Michael, was that a fair statement?

It is.

Okay. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you, Ross.

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the floor back over to Vivek for closing comments.

Okay. Thank you, operator. If there are no further questions, I would like to thank you for joining our call today, and we look forward to sharing our second quarter 2023 results with you in early August. Thank you.

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Thank you, operator, and welcome to Mass Tech Digital's first quarter 2023 conference call. If you have not yet received a copy of our earnings announcement, it can be obtained from our website at www.masstechdigital.com. With me on the call today are Vivek Gupta, Mass Tech Digital's Chief Executive Officer, Jack Cronin, our Chief Financial Officer, and Michael Fleischman, our recently appointed Chief Executive Officer of the company's data and analytics services business segment. I would like to remind everyone that statements made during this call that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements include our financial growth and liquidity projections as well as statements about our plans, strategies, intentions, and beliefs concerning the business, cash flows, costs, and the markets in which we operate. Without limiting the foregoing, the words believes, anticipates, plans, expects, and similar expressions are intended to identify certain forward-looking statements. These statements are based on information currently available to us, and we assume no obligation to update these statements as circumstances change. There are risks and uncertainties that could cause actual events to differ materially from these forward-looking statements, including those listed in the company's 2022 annual report on Form 10-K, filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and available on its website at www.sec.gov. Additionally, management has elected to provide certain non-GAAP financial measures to supplement our financial results presented on a GAAP basis. Specifically, we will provide non-GAAP net income and non-GAAP diluted earnings per share data, which we believe will provide greater transparency with respect to the key metrics used by management in operating the business. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to their comparable GAAP measures are included in our earnings announcement, which can be obtained from our website at www.masstechdigitals.com. As a reminder, we will not be providing guidance during this call, nor will we provide guidance in any subsequent one-on-one meetings or calls. I will now turn the call over to Jack for a review of our first quarter 2023 results.

Thanks, Jen, and good morning, everyone. First quarter 2023 was clearly a disappointing quarter for MassTech Digital. Revenues totaled $55.1 million, representing an 8% revenue decline compared to $59.8 million reported in Q1 2022. Both of our business segments were impacted by economic uncertainty, including customer concerns regarding inflationary conditions and a possible recession. Our data and analytic services segment contributed revenues of $9.4 million compared to $10.2 million in the 2022 first quarter, as order bookings in the second half of 2022 were short of expectations, which had an impact on our Q1 2023 results. For the first quarter of 2023, revenues in our IT staffing services segment totaled $45.7 million compared to $49.6 million in the first quarter of 2022. Demand declined during the quarter, which resulted in a reduction of 84 billable consultants. Gross profit in the first quarter of 2023 totaled $13.5 million compared to $15.9 million in the first quarter of 2022. Gross margins as a percent of revenue in Q1 2023 was 24.5% compared to 26.7% in the 2022 first quarter. This margin variance was largely due to lower utilization and lower project margins on several long-term assignments in our data and analytic services segment and a reduction in direct hire revenues and lower utilization rates on several financial clients in our IT staffing services segment. Gap net income for the first quarter of 2023 was $261,000, or two cents per diluted share, compared to $2.3 million, or 19 cents per diluted share, in Q1 2022. Non-GAAP net income for Q1 2023 was $1.4 million, or 12 cents per diluted share, compared to $3.3 million, or 28 cents per diluted share, in the first quarter of 2022. SG&A expense items not included in Q1 non-GAAP financial measures, net of tax benefits, or one, stock-based compensation, and two, the amortization of acquired intangible assets, and they're detailed in our first quarter 2023 earnings release, which is available on our website. It should be noted that both GAAP net income and non-GAAP net income in Q1 2023 were impacted by a $400,000 pretax expense for professional services related to an outstanding employment claim asserted by a former employee. Addressing our financial position, at March 31, 2023, we had $9.1 million of cash balances on hand, no bank debt outstanding, and borrowing availability of $31.5 million under our revolving credit facility. Our day sales outstanding measurement was 61 days at quarter end, which is well within our target range of 60 to 65 days. During the first quarter, we didn't execute on our share repurchase program due to an extended trading blackout period. We expect to have the ability to execute on the share repurchase program in the near term. I'll now turn the call over to Viv for his comments.

Good morning, everyone. Thank you, Jack, for the detailed financial review of our operating results for Q1 2023. The first quarter of 2023 was a challenging quarter to say the least. Our IT staffing services segment saw a notable decline in demand during Q1, as the possibility of a recession appears to be weighing heavily on clients' spending dynamics. With approximately half of our billing consultants employed in the financial services industry Recent bank failures have also had an adverse impact on our IT staffing business. Our data analytics segment performance was also impacted, largely due to the order booking shortfalls that occurred in the second half of 2022. Activity levels, however, were more robust with respect to the building of a pipeline of opportunities during the first quarter. Michael will talk more about the state of affairs in the data and analytics services business in a few minutes. While we cannot say when the economic outlook will improve, we can say that our businesses remain fundamentally sound, our financial clients are among the strongest in the industry, and we have a solid balance sheet and access to ample capital to fund our current business needs and support the share repurchase program we announced earlier this year. Let me now turn the call over to Michael for his comments related to the data and analytics services segment. Over to you, Michael.

Thanks, Vivek, and good morning, everyone. As Vivek mentioned, current economic conditions are strong headwinds for most businesses today. However, in the data and analytics space, while economic conditions are notable, they are not as impactful as they are to the IT staffing industry. Areas of emphasis that I've been addressing since I joined MassTech Digital are one, expanding the pipeline of opportunities. Two, improving the efficiency of the sales engine slash pipeline engine that we have across the company. Three, filling needs and leadership talent. And four, enhancing communication across the various facets of the organization. In a very short time, we have been able to upgrade leadership talent across sales, marketing, technology, as well as in delivery, expand and develop our sales engine, and improve communication across the entire organization. I am happy to say that our new messaging to existing clients and client prospects appears to be gaining traction. While Q1 2023 results were well below our expectations, it is noteworthy to point out that revenues, bookings, gross margins, and utilization rates all improved sequentially from the fourth quarter of 2022. Additionally, our pipeline notably increased in Q1, which we believe bodes well for us for the next few quarters. While we do not give specific guidance, I am confident that we will continue to build our pipeline in the second quarter of 2023. And I believe that going forward, we will be well positioned to win a fair portion of the enhanced pipeline of opportunities. I'll now turn the call back over to Vivek.

Thank you, Michael. Operator, this concludes our prepared remarks. We can take questions now.

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Lisa Thompson with Zaks Investment Research. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning. I have a number of questions about the quarter. I'll start with probably the most important since everyone's wondering. You said that half of your consultants are on financial services type companies. I assume that includes the 10% of CGI, right?

Yes, it does.

Can you describe a little bit who these financial customers are generically? I mean, there's a lot of concern about the second tier banks as people pull deposits from them. Talk a little about maybe what you do for who.

So we actually have, we're working with a lot of banks, the premier first level banks, either directly or through systems integrators such as CGI that we mentioned. And we have our exposure to mid-level banks or regional level banks is a lot lower. And it's Mainly, I think our top, one of our top banks is PNC Bank. By far. By far. And then we have, after that, we have a few other in the premier, in the top level banks. So the comment that I made a little earlier that we feel that our financial customers are pretty strong. And although we are all watching this banking crisis unfold, we are pretty confident that we will not be that affected. And once this crisis settles down, we will be back to what we've been doing in terms of servicing these customers.

Yeah. And Lisa, we have some insurance companies that are included in a financial services segment. And they're solid. And as far as the companies that had severe problems and were taken over by the government and you know, we're struggling, we have no exposure to those clients.

Great. Good to hear. So how many consultants did you end the quarter with?

Jack, do you have the exact number? At the end of the quarter?

Yeah. Sure. Let me grab it here.

in billable consultants in the IT staffing services segment, 1,125. Okay.

And then can you explain what happened with the tax rate this quarter? What's up with that?

The tax rate?

Yeah. Yeah, you know what, Lisa? You know, we had some losses in the foreign subsidiaries And we provided what accounting calls valuation allowances for them, which means we don't recognize the benefit associated with some of those losses. And because our pre-tax income was very low this quarter, the percentage of our effective tax rate got exaggerated by some of those losses. valuation allowances that we made.

So do you think the year still comes out to like 27.5%?

I think the year comes out more in line with what we've had in the past, which is 27, 28. It may be a little bit more, but it's not going to be 45%. Okay. All right. For the full year, Lisa, for the full year.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right. So an SG&A is a little high, and you said you have $400,000 in the quarter for legal expense, I guess. Does that same level of expense continue until the case is settled?

I think it continues for a while. I don't know if it's going to be $400,000, but it's going to continue for a while. So we should expect, you know, you know, some level of professional services expense associated with this matter, the employment claim matter in Q2.

All right. And do you have any plans at all like pulling back on expenses like you did during the pandemic level?

You know, in IT staffing, we are pulling back right now. If you look at our sales and operating expenses, and operating in IT staffing is recruiting cost, that was reduced by $600,000 or about 8% of revenues, which is the revenue decline that we experienced in IT staffing. The only negative was we got hit with higher corporate-related expenses. And it's largely, you know, insurance programs and, you know, cybersecurity insurances is on the rise like crazy. And we have some increases in public costs, sort of expenses that, you know, we don't have full control over. So, you know, we are making an attempt to reduce our SG&A expenses and IT staffing. On the data and analytic services segment, You know, we had an increase of $600,000 in the quarter year over year, but $400,000 was the professional services expense related to the employment claim. And, you know, going forward, DNA is going to invest in SG&A. So there's going to be an increase in Q2 and Q3, at least over the next couple quarters. because we're bringing in new talent and filling some of the leadership gaps that we had or that were identified by Michael. So to get where we want to be, you know, going forward, we have to make these investments known.

Okay. So hopefully that results in higher growth margins along the way too.

I would hope so.

Okay. Okay. All right, I think that's all my questions. Thank you.

Thank you, Lisa.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mark Riddick with Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning. Hi, Mark.

So I was wondering if you'd, and certainly it's understandable given the environment to, you know, maybe shy away from this a little bit, but, you know, in the past you certainly have looked at the potential for acquisitions to boost your future opportunities. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about maybe what you're thinking about that right now and maybe what the pipeline may look like and what the appetite is for doing something in the near term.

Well, Mark, acquisition is very much part of our plan. That hasn't changed. It's just that at this point in time, there are a couple of things that we are working One is, of course, the decline that we spoke about on the IT staffing side, and that's we are very carefully looking at our costs and seeing how we realign the organization as we address the decline in demand. On the other side, on the data analytics side, Michael has been on board for a few months now, and he's put in place a number of initiatives that he spoke about, And I think we are just going to give ourselves a little bit more time before we come back to the process of the acquisitions one more time. But it's not off the table, but I think it's really a question of a little bit more time before we get back to it.

Okay, great. Then I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about maybe, you talked about the improvement sequentially. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about the cadence improvement through the quarter? Is there any read-throughs that we should be thinking about there?

Sorry, Mark, I didn't fully understand your question.

The cadence of activity by month, I guess, through the quarter, was it flattish? Did it improve? Did it get worse when you went from January, February to March?

Okay, so I think this question, if you're talking about the buying pattern from our customers, the order booking. Yeah, okay. So let me touch upon the IT staffing, and then I'm going to let Michael respond to how he's seeing on the data analytics side. But on the IT staffing side, there has been some pickup in demand from Q4. That's when I compared Q1 with the previous quarter. but it's not been significant enough to move the needle. So we are hoping that we will see more as we go forward. But again, no one has a crystal ball. So we are still at a point where the demand is way lower than what the demand was a year ago. So that's the situation as far as the IT staffing. And Michael, can you talk about the DNA side?

Sure. From a data and analytics perspective, we're specifically focused on data modernization as a piece of digital transformation overall. Within the data modernization space, within the Forbes 1500 or even the Forbes 2000, the amount of demand, even in light of a potential recession, is not going to impact the amount of opportunity that we have in front of us, not only across our existing customers, but also within potential new logo prospects that we're also targeting. So simple answer, no, not foreseeing any decline in demand that would impact our potential ability to drive net new opportunity that will also drive net new growth within the data and analytics segment, if that answers your question, Mark.

Yeah, no, that's helpful. And first, you know, it's good to have you on the call and welcome. I was wondering if you could sort of give me a sense of are you seeing much in the way of the types of assignments shifting? Are you beginning to see customers that are maybe shifting from an offensive to a defensive posture, or are they sort of focusing more maybe on cost savings efforts or things of that nature, or is it too early for that?

Mark, specifically for data analytics or specifically for IT staffing?

Yeah, within data analytics I was thinking about.

Yeah, so, I mean, when you look at digital transformation, you've got basically two sides of a coin, right? You've got application modernization and then you have the data modernization aspect. Customers are focusing on both, but the lion's share is, is around application modernization first and foremost, and then working on the data modernization once they have their applications modernized. And so to answer your question about are they on offense or defense, it is very much so they're trying to be proactive in modernizing their overall solutions and their ability to unlock decisioning from their data, more so than they are about trying to save money because If they don't modernize now, if they don't invest now to make the modernization initiatives, then they're not going to be able to be competitive in the marketplace, which will impact their ability to continue to make money and grow from their own perspectives. And so it's not really – it is about cost savings, but it's about cost savings through modernization, and that modernization requires investment first. So it's a little bit of chicken before the egg or egg before the chicken, but they have to modernize. They have to. It's either modernize and survive or have your business taken up by those that modernized faster. or didn't need to modernize in the first place because they were new entrants and don't have the legacy challenges that you had. That's the situation on the market. And that situation is fairly applicable across all industries.

Okay, and then last one for me. You made mention as far as the shareable purchase at a blackout period or what have you. Could you sort of maybe talk generally as to maybe what your thought process is there or maybe expectations are? I mean, certainly we've seen a pullback in opportunities as far as lower share price to work with, but I was wondering if you could sort of talk about maybe a sort of big picture thought as to the authorization and goals there. Thanks.

Yeah, I mean, we had to share by that program, you know, approved by the board, you know, 500,000 shares, over a two year period. I think the board as management feels that our stock price is depressed over the long term and I think there's an opportunity to pick up shares at what we believe is a bargain share price. So we plan on moving forward with that. Current market conditions aren't scaring us off and that's our intention.

Okay, great. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mark.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ross Davison with Fanatin Capital. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, guys. Good morning. First question was just, you know, just building on the sort of trend or feeling of bookings and revenue through the quarter. Anything in April sort of changing with that? Have you noticed either a positive or negative in each segment in terms of like the revenue cadence? or bookings, Kevin?

Okay, Ross, let me again talk about the IT staffing first. On the IT staffing, we actually have not seen much of a change from what we saw in the previous three months or previous quarter. So we are where we are in terms of bookings. As far as the data analytics side is concerned, Michael, would you want to give some color to that?

I would say that the slope from Q4 to Q1 is trending in the right direction. And without going into specifics in April, that slope is the same. It's keeping our eye on the ball and maintaining the focus with our existing customers and also in trying to get net new bookings. to not only continue to maintain that slope into the rest of the quarter, but also to try and make it a little steeper in the upper direction.

Great. That's helpful. Thank you. And, Michael, specifically on DNA, I think that you had said something about, you know, it's improving, but, like, are you seeing anything in terms of length and scale cycles or anything like that? People need to do data modernization, but are they sort of delaying any decisioning just because of the economy?

So I would say no, they're not delaying the decisioning.

What I will tell you potentially is impacting them is if they have 10 projects on the table, Because of concerns in the economy, maybe they're holding back on their lowest priority project or their lowest two priority projects. But, you know, the other eight are still moving forward. That we're seeing for sure. But that's to be expected in any kind of uncertainty in the economy. And we've seen that multiple times, you know, even pre-COVID and certainly through COVID. As far as sales cycle itself, no, no change to the sales cycle. It's still about the same.

Okay, great. And then in IT staffing, you referenced the banking turmoil as being especially a problem given all the constitution of financial services. Most of the actual crisis was in March. Were you seeing financial services challenges or anything in particular about financial services in terms of challenges ahead of that activity in March with SBB and the other banks?

Well, I think the financial services sector was being very cautious anyway. And we saw that not just in January and February, but we saw that in Q4 too. But it kind of got heightened in March. And then it continued. I mean, we've seen April has been, I guess, in some ways worse. So, yes, it was happening. There was the tightening of the belt was happening. A lot of projects were being put on the back burner. focus was on keeping the bank running rather than building the bank, as the terminology they use. And then things changed a little bit, became intensified in March and continued in April.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, and then last question I had was just on gross margin in data analytics. It was down, and we talked a little bit about this, but just to build on that, it was down a lot year over year, and I think it was up a little bit sequentially, but you mentioned utilization, and also I think you said lower margin and some long-term engagement. Can you just explain more about the latter one there? Are those new engagements that are just at lower margin? Is there something changing about those long-term engagements? What is that exactly?

Yeah. Sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Vivek.

No, go ahead, Michael.

Okay, so what I would say is it's actually both. It's actually both, right? And so on one hand, we've got a heavy focus on ensuring that our utilization is improving and increasing. Utilization has an immediate direct impact to gross margin, right? So a maniacal focus on utilization across the board, a maniacal focus on long-term projects to ensure that We're automating, driving automation, driving accelerators, being able to do the project internally better, faster, cheaper, and more efficiently, which is also improving margins on longer-term engagements. And we're doing those engagements, for lack of a better word, we're doing those engagements better and more efficiently internally. So a heavy, heavy focus on that, as well as a heavy focus on all net new business to ensure that we're winning business on value and not on price, right? Which also helps drive better margins.

Yeah, and let me add to that. You know, specifically with respect to our gross margins, in Q4, our gross margins were 37%. And in Q1 of 2023, our gross margins were... 38.5%. So we improved from the sequential quarter. But if you look at where we ended March and even February, we were pretty close to where we ended March. Our March gross margins were a little bit over 42%. So it's a margin improvement that you really can't see specifically in Q1 financials, but it's there. And as far as the The long-term assignments that I was talking about, we have a handful of multiple-year assignments that we refer to as center of excellence projects. Some of these projects have escalation clauses, and some of them don't. The couple that don't have escalation clauses, we're seeing some cost increase. that we can't recover through a higher bill rate. And so it's impacting our overall gross margins somewhat. But it's not the norm.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. That's really helpful. And just on the sort of the cadence of gross margins through the quarter, is that improvement coming from I guess, like anything specific driving that improvement? Because, you know, I guess bookings are improving. But anyway, Jack, anything you can say around that?

Like what's driving that improvement? I mean, utilization is definitely a driver. And, you know, I think our, you know, project margins were up as well.

Michael, was that a fair statement?

It is.

Okay. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you, Ross.

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the floor back over to Vivek for closing comments.

Okay. Thank you, Operator. If there are no further questions, I would like to thank you for joining our call today, and we look forward to sharing our second quarter 2023 results with you in early August. Thank you.

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