8/26/2026

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Conference Operator
Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to TAP Corp Holdings Limited Full Year Results 2026. At this time, all participants are in listen early mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question, you will need to press star 1 1 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please be advised that today's conference call is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer of TAP Corp, Gillian Mellochlan. Please go ahead.

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Gillian Mellochlan
Managing Director & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you and good morning everyone and welcome to our FY26 results call. I'm Gillan McLaughlin, and I'm joined on the call by our CFO, Mark Howe. I'll take the presentation as read, and I'll talk you through the key highlights before handing over to Mark, who will step you through the financials. I'll refer you first to slide two. Ultimately, FY26 was an important year for us. We continue to execute on the plan we presented two years ago, delivering significant strategic milestones. The numbers today reflect the progress we have made. We're steadily building a culture of doing what we say we will do, and for me that's critically important. We've improved our execution and are delivering an omnichannel racing and sports entertainment experience which customers are responding to. Products like TabTime, TabShout, TagMakeover and Megapod are the outcome of using our unique assets more effectively. Sky now has the domestic and international rights for every Australian race, creating a strong foundation to grow the B2B media business globally. Max Integrity Services continue to deliver consistent performance, providing growth and diversity in earnings across our group. This execution has been achieved while maintaining strong cost discipline and improving our balance sheet. In addition, we have delivered on key strategic initiatives, including the reshaping of the commercial model with our retail network, enabling us to grow and invest in that channel. Since year end, we've also reached agreement with the racing industry on a national tote, a significant milestone for TabCorp and the industry. As we announced earlier this month, the strategic acquisition of Bitmakers will modernise our technology and create a global beta value growth engine. Before I get into the detail, I'd like to note the company is subject to an auspice investigation which we take very seriously. There is no update from our original disclosure. We are cooperating transparently with the regulator and continuing the compliance uplift which we commenced in 2024. I'll now refer you to slide 6 and the first pillar of our game plan. It's all about people. The right people in the right slots. We continue to grow capability and build a culture of strong execution. As part of the uplift, we've appointed key senior leaders in financial crime, wagering, retail, marketing, max, strategy and cyber security. We've increased cultural accountability with 360 degree views of all executives and senior leads, including talent roundtables. We're also investing in the next generation of leaders. In N.26, we launched Tab W, a program focused on developing and investing in emerging female leaders. And Tab Kickoff, bringing our 150 top leaders together at the start of each calendar and financial year to align on the strategic priorities. We will continue to focus on growing capability and culture as the foundation of our future success. I've now referred to slides 7 and 9 in our second pillar, growth of the industry and ourselves. The creation of a national tote is a significant milestone for the industry. I want to acknowledge the principal racing authorities in each state who work collaboratively to make this a reality. The industry has tried and failed many times to create a national tote, and this group has achieved it. I'm pleased to share the national tote will launch early in the spring carnival. A merged pool will increase liquidity for funders and create greater price stability. The next step will be product innovation. We're focused on creating more jackpot-style bed types and products exclusive to Tote, and there will be new opportunities for global pooling. We'll refresh the look and feel of Sky with greater focus on Tote promotions. And I refer to slide 10. Delivering unrivaled omni-channel experiences at greater strength and differentiator. As I mentioned, we continue to innovate with new products and a better look and feel to create a genuine racing and sports entertainment offering. We told you at our half-year results about the success of Tap Time, Tap Shop, Tap Takeover and exclusive in-venue generosities. Today, we can add the FIFA World Cup to that list. We achieved record turnover and revenue. Retail turnover for the event increased 57% compared to the last World Cup and digital turnover grew by 53% compared to the last World Cup. I'm particularly pleased with the increase in our broader retail turnover. More people are coming into pubs and clubs on the back of our investment in the channel. Digital in venue turnover for FY26 grew by 9% and by 25% for sport. We continue to broaden our appeal with digital in venue turnover for the 18 to 34 year old cohort increasing by 23%. This reflects our brand refresh and improved look and feel of our offering. I'd like to take you now to slide 11 of the new retail commercial model. Our fourth pillar is about delivering wagering growth underpinned by a sustainable retail channel. Creating structural sustainability in our retail model has allowed us to invest more in uplifting the retail experience. Support from pubs and clubs has been strong. More than 3,300 venues are operating in our network, representing 97% of historical turnover. Our new commercial model allows us to invest for mutual benefits. The improved product offering and week-long generosity calendar is delivering results and we're looking to build on that growth in FY27. Now I'll take you to slide 13 and our investment in modernised bedding terminals. We've commenced replacing every existing EBT with new next-gen terminals. The terminals will deliver both compliance and commercial benefits. Technology is a key enabler for our continued uplift. in regulatory compliance, and the new terminals provide us options for further automation and operate a safe and compliant network. Commercially, we expect the benefits from the new model will generate returns on investment of at least 25%. This includes terminal spend in FY27 and FY28, along with the Phase 1 benefits including our FY26 results that Mark will talk to shortly. The changes we have delivered in retail this year are significant and I want to acknowledge the work of our people as well as the ongoing support of our venue partners in positioning the venue network for a strong and sustainable future. On to slide 15 in our media business. Sky's recent domestic and international rights renewals underpin our ability to grow a global B2B distribution business. A key focus in the year ahead will be using our rights acquisitions to expand this part of our business. which will be complemented by the proposed acquisition of betmakers. On screen, Sky is now a fully integrated part of our wagering experience, including QR code integration and viewers to scan and receive pre-filled tabbed bet slips based on our presenter tips. There's another step in creating a complete omnichannel experience. The look and feel is continuing to evolve and you'll see further changes as we launch the national tote. Slide 16 summarises our agreement to acquire betmakers. The acquisition represents a unique opportunity to accelerate our transformation to a modernised technology-led company and establish a global B2B growth engine. We believe with Betmakers we can create new products faster and more cheaply, uplift capability in our workforce and benefit from complementary assets to grow scale and diversify internationally. The transaction will require various approvals including by Betmakers shareholders. Completion is targeted during the third quarter of FY27. I'll now hand over to Mark to talk you through the detailed financial results.

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Mark Howe
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Phil, and good morning, everyone. We've delivered what we think is a pleasing set of results. We've responded to the modest growth turnover environment with continued focus on cost control while delivering a number of important strategic initiatives that have sustainably improved our earnings, both in F26 and into the future. Before I run you through the results in detail, there are four key aspects I want to call out. First, the initial phase one benefits of the new retail commercial model were delivered in line with expectations with a positive EBITDA impact of 22 million realised in F26. This was partly offset by the low average yield in the first half that we called out in February. Second, the benefit of the reformed Victorian wagering licence applied for the full 12 months of the financial year versus only 10 and a half months in the PCP. We estimate this delivered an incremental 12 million of EBITDA and EB26. Third, we continue to focus on cost discipline across the business. OPEX adjusting for the Victorian licence decreased by 80 basis points, a strong result in a high inflationary environment. This allowed us to deliver operating leverage and 140 basis point improvement in EBITDA margin to 16.4%. And finally, we continued to focus on efficient investment of capital to support our strategy, requiring another year of improved return on capital, up to 12%, a 240 basis point improvement on the prior year. In addition, we reduced leverage to 1.2 times and improved the diversity and tenor of our debt facilities, including a new AMTN and the extension of our syndicated debt facility. This provides us with significant flexibility to support our strategic investments going forward, including the rollout of modernised betting terminals over the next couple of years and the strategic acquisition of bet makers. So now moving on to the result. Slide 17 sets out the F26 group financial result. Group revenue grew by 0.8% to 2.64 billion. Variable contribution increased 4% while OPEX was largely flat, delivering strong operating leverage with 10.3% growth in EBIT data to $432 million and 15.9% growth in EBIT to $219 million. Net interest expense decreased by 5.8%, reflecting the reduction in net debt. This in turn delivered 44% growth in NPAT before significant items to $71.1 million. a final dividend of 1.5 cents per share has been declared, bringing the total F26 dividends to 3 cents per share, a 50% increase on the PCP. This represents a 58% payout ratio for the year towards the midpoint of our 50% to 70% payout policy. You'll also note that on this slide we have provided an MPEDA view of the result. This is in response to investor feedback and just the certain non-cash items and an ongoing part of our P&L, focused particularly on the amortization of wagering and monitoring license in our portfolio. For the remainder of the presentation, I'll focus on three areas. The drivers of EBITDA growth, cost control to deliver operating leverage, and the strength and balance sheet. Turning to slide 19, you can see the key drivers of the 10% EBITDA growth delivered in F26. The reformed Victorian wagering licence contributed for a full 12 months and it added $22 million of variable contribution and $12 million of EBITDA. We also benefited from phase one of the new retail commercial model that contributed $22 million which was partly offset by the impact of below average wagering yields in the first half. Integrity Services VC increased by $6 million as a result of the annual CPIC increases and additional project work through the year. Underlying costs improved by $6 million, which I'll turn to now. Slide 20 demonstrates the focus on costs we have had over the last two years, with F26 OPEX benefiting from the annualisation of actions taken in F25, as well as a continuation of cost discipline on discretionary items. General inflation remained an ongoing headwind, particularly in relation to technology costs. However, we more than offset this with $18 million of cost reduction and a further $9.3 million of more tactical items. This outcome was achieved whilst continuing to invest in the business, including advertising and promotion spend of around $5 million in relation to the FIFA World Cup. Slide 21 demonstrates the continued focus on discipline, investment and returns. Canvex increased by 22% in F26. which was driven by investment in the new EVTs, which we have now commenced rolling out. We expect this investment to continue through the next two years and generate attractive returns for the business. In F27, we expect to spend around $65 million on the new EVTs, which explains a further step up in our expected capex spend in F27 of up to $160 million. Importantly, our LOIT continues to improve and was 12% at the end of F26, up from 9.6% in F25. Turning to slide 22 in cash flow. Underlying cash conversion was strong at 98%, and in line with our expectation provided at the half, where we flagged full-year cash conversion of between 90% and 100%. This has helped us further reduce leverage across the year. On to slide 23. We have made significant improving our balance sheet in F26. In November 25, we issued a $300 million under a new AMTN program at a fixed coupon of 5.99% and a tenner of five and a half years. In addition, in June 26, we extended both tranches of our syndicated debt facility by around two years. These initiatives diversified our funding sources, increased liquidity and extended their average maturity of drawn debt to 4.9 years. Leverage at the end of F26 stood at 1.2 times and liquidity stood at $1.2 billion, providing us with significant flexibility in funding capacity to pursue growth opportunities. As promised on the betmaker's announcement call a couple of weeks ago, we have rolled forward the leverage calculation to June 26 and our updated pro forma leverage is 1.6 times for the transaction. I'll now hand you back to Gil for some closing remarks.

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Gillian Mellochlan
Managing Director & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks Mark. I believe the company made significant progress over the past 12 months. Earnings have increased and we continue to exercise cost and capital discipline. Our balance sheet is in great shape and our strategic agenda is clear. We remain relentless in executing the plan. Looking ahead, we expect the wagering turnover environment in FY27 to be similar to FY26. We will continue to be vigilant on costs in a high inflation environment. Capital expense will increase in FY27 as we hit the peak of our investment in the new EBTs to enhance retail growth and compliance. And we should see further benefits from that investment in our numbers in FY27. I'm pleased with the progress we've made by delivering on the plan I presented to you two years ago. I'm happy to take your questions.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question... please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. First question comes from the line of Andre Fulham from UBS.

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Andre Fulham
Analyst, UBS

Thank you. Good morning. The first question is just about the... the changes in the retail commercial model I think during the presentation you called out a 22 million dollar EBITDA benefit during the year just gone but I'm wondering if you can help us understand you know how to think about the benefits derived from the phase two rollout you know is this something where we should expect a further step change in, say, VC profitability, or is it something that depends more on behavioural change with the punters or with how the venues manage the tabs?

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Gillian Mellochlan
Managing Director & Chief Executive Officer

I'll hand over to Mark on that one, Andre, other than to say, you know, it's a holistic view. There is structural change, but there's a broader impact on wagering and there's, you know, we're telegraphing a net impact.

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Mark Howe
Chief Financial Officer

Yep. So just to sort of walk you through the numbers, Andre, there is an EBITDA benefit we're expecting in our 27. We've sort of said that CapEx on the terminals is around $140 million, which we've spent some in 26 and we'll spend some in 27 and 28, which we've called out. A 25% return on that $140 will give you an EBIT number to work with. We've called out that the DNA on the terminals is around $13 million, so you can gross that up to get to a and EBITDA number and then was saying of that EBITDA number, $22 million has already been realised in FY26. So that is a, as Gil said, that is a net number because there's obviously been other things removed from the commercial model, including things like EBT rental fees and then there's also investment in the loyalty program as well.

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Gillian Mellochlan
Managing Director & Chief Executive Officer

So quantum plays the reinvestment lake in the network as well as the netting out of addition or historical revenues and ins and outs.

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Mark Howe
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. So it will impact the VC line. It will also impact OPEX as well, Andre, to answer your sort of original question.

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Andre Fulham
Analyst, UBS

Yeah, great. That's really helpful. I just had one other to follow up on this. comments around the domestic wagering revenue outlook comments you're saying similar growth to what we saw in FY26 but excluding the effects of FIFA World Cup and I'm just wondering if you could help us size up you know how big was the FIFA World Cup benefit in FY26 and is that likely to be greater or smaller in terms of the remaining impact that was early FY27 yeah

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Mark Howe
Chief Financial Officer

I mean, look, Andre, I'd say there's a few moving pieces. The first thing I'd say is there are events every year, right? So, I mean, obviously the FIFA World Cup is a big one, but equally in 26 there was some other, 25 there was some other events as well. And also turnover does come out of other places and pockets. But to sort of answer your question, about half the tournament was in 26 and half was for Fallon's 27th. and our estimate is about 30 to 50 basis points of the turnover growth that we saw relates to the World Cup in FOA 26.

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Andre Fulham
Analyst, UBS

Okay, cool. That's helpful. Thank you.

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Mark Howe
Chief Financial Officer

So I think what we're trying to say on an underlying basis, you know, turnover growth is still relatively modest. Okay, thank you.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. Next, we have Matt Ryan from Baron Joey.

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Matt Ryan
Analyst, Baron Joey

Thank you. Just thinking about the national tote, interested in what works still yet to be done to get the product active and I guess how we should think about the launch in regards to promotion of the liquidity benefits, obviously, and what that might do to your international business.

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Gillian Mellochlan
Managing Director & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, thanks, Matt, Gil. I think we were clear with the market. There was four big pieces to get done, which is obviously the technology piece, PRA approval, an aligned commercial model, and regulatory approval. I would say that everything's done, except I think it's sort of implied that the New South Wales approval was the last PRA approval, and that was a protracted discussion where we were very pleased with the outcome and we were pleased with the support of Racing NSW and ultimately without, you know, there is a period of reg approval to apply in NSW that goes to that approval. I think everything else is in hand and done and, you know, we don't expect any problems with that. It's just a normal course of time on that approval. Then to the second part of your question in terms of promotion, we're sort of keeping our powder dry in terms of the exact date but you can expect a significant marketing campaign, a specific launch day which has been decided on, we have a new brand, we have a campaign which will focus on what we see as the advantages of a national token which is clearly greater liquidity, clearly you know the opportunity to have jackpot style products a simplicity in the way it's presented a focus on it's linked to internationals hopefully an over time link into sport and and turning a light on something which has obviously been a drag on our business for some time, and this is an opportunity to refresh and present the actual advantages of the tote, which I don't think we've had the opportunity to do, and we'll talk about that in various forms, as I said, across the price competitiveness that hopefully comes with the liquidity, the opportunity for deeper pulls through international co-mingling jackpot and other product types that are unique, and to start talking to a wider market about the tote generally. So I just don't want to go into the, just particularly about the specifics of that promotion because that will start playing out over the coming weeks and we have a designated launch date that we want to make some bit of noise about.

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Matt Ryan
Analyst, Baron Joey

Thank you, that's helpful. And I was just hoping for some comments on... on the detail behind wagering. I think historically, tabcorp's been a little bit underweight sport, maybe relative to some competitors. So maybe just share some colour on some of the success that you've had there, because the numbers appear to be pretty good again. And then just within racing, just interested in how much of a drag that greyhounds have been over the last little while, and if you could just shed any colour on the strength of thoroughbreds against that.

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Gillian Mellochlan
Managing Director & Chief Executive Officer

I'd like to get off into some market detail I missed where he thinks it is relevant. Broadly speaking on the wagering, just to finish the discussion on national totem, Matt, a third of our business is roughly paramutual, and that's been in decline by 5% or 6% year-on-year, and FY26 was no different. So clearly then, you know, the strategic imperative around the national totem and the opportunities is... gives you that context with the numbers. Then with the business overall, with that context, you know, sport grew at about 8%. Racing fixed odds was positive in that mindset. You can backfill on the numbers on that. I think, you know, we feel the market is, there is modest growth. We're investing then specifically on your sport. We look forward to OpenBet to be able to deliver a differentiated product on our digital platform with a rival OpenBet in the coming months. We focus on presenting energetically. The NFL is an example. We're big for us. We are the sponsor of the NFL game here in Melbourne. We've got other targeted sports that we're leaning into and, you know, Live betting, when it launches, I'm sure there'll be a question on that at some point, or there may well be, will be a key differentiator in our ability to continue to grow our sport portfolio.

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Mark Howe
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, guys.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. Just a moment for our next question, please. Next, we have Liam Robinson from Jardins.

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Liam Robinson
Analyst, Jardine

Oh, thanks. Hi, guys. Good morning. Just two questions for me. Firstly, on the new retail commercial model. So I think what I'm hearing, you've called out $22 million of incremental EBITDA and FY26. Can then sort of do the math on your inferred ROIC. It looks like at full run rate, it's more like $46 to $48 million of EBITDA. So two questions on that, I guess. On the additional $24 to $26 million, how much of that do you think you can deliver in FY27? That's just the first part of my question.

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Gillian Mellochlan
Managing Director & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks. I won't comment on you. I'm not going to tell you your accounts to say they're right or wrong. Because there's reinvestment and we're putting a lot back into the retail network, Liam. But all of it, whatever your numbers are, will be realised in FY27.

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Liam Robinson
Analyst, Jardine

Okay, perfect. That's very clear. Thanks. And then just in terms of, I mean, I appreciate you calling out incremental income tax. Sounds like that's after factoring the loss of EBT, rental fee income under the old model. Just for the avoidance of doubt, are you also factoring the loss of turnovers from venues that didn't take up the new commercial model?

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Gillian Mellochlan
Managing Director & Chief Executive Officer

Yes, we are. But it's a net number, clearly. So that would factor in loss of that. And we've called out that we've retained 97% of the turnover and we've had a bright start to FY27, so I wouldn't factor in too much downside on that. We've had a good result in retention, but it's more... Holdings Limited Holdings Limited Holdings Limited participation in the retail network and ultimately turnover as we try and drive the omnichannel wagering business. And so we will be reinvesting part of that in that model with our venue partners.

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Liam Robinson
Analyst, Jardine

Okay, thanks. That's very clear. And then just last one, maybe just following on from some of the questions from Matt around national tote. I guess, simplistically, in time, do you think you can get racing turnover back to growth by the new national tote?

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Gillian Mellochlan
Managing Director & Chief Executive Officer

Well, that's certainly the ambition. I mean, there is a clear plan and, you know, the steps, you know, and the pieces to that, you know, I've talked to and I won't re-prosecute that, but we believe, you know, the international link which is promoting the unique aspect to us, the price competitiveness with a well-executed product generosity plan promotional plan changes the dynamic for us and ultimately then it becomes to us your question that's the ambition proof will be the pudding and we have to execute well but when it's a third of our business and we've been in sort of 6% decline every percentage point of decline that we arrest obviously is important for us and we're just we're leaning in aggressively in how we do that and The opportunity is there and I think it's up for us to execute on it.

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Mark Howe
Chief Financial Officer

It won't happen immediately. Obviously it'll take time and as we launch more features and products with national code, but as Gil has explained, that's our ambition over time. Thank you.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. Just a moment for our next question. Next we have Justin Barrett from CLSA.

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Justin Barrett
Analyst, CLSA

Good morning, guys. Thanks for the opportunity. Gil, I know you've made comments on this before, but I just wanted to sort of pull up again. The government's proposed gambling advertising reforms have now been legislated. Looks like they're going to commence from the 1st of January. I just wanted to get your thoughts on the impacts of that on the broader industry, how you think it affects TAG Corp relative to those broader industry impacts, and I guess confirm that that has been considered in your commentary on your outlook comments for FY27?

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Gillian Mellochlan
Managing Director & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, Justin, thank you. So I think the two parts is an absolute and a relative impact. I think in an absolute sense they are a sensible set of reforms. I think that our outlook factors that in. I think that there is... The reforms target areas where they should, which are those with vulnerabilities, and ultimately allows business to still promote sensibly and the industry to grow. In a relative sense, I believe we're very well positioned. I've talked about it before, clearly with 3,500 retail outlets, with Sky Media, with a set of assets that are clear and established both in racing and in sport. And to be more tactical, we are not impacted by some of the – we agree with a lot of the – the majority of the recommendations and in part are already there. As an example, we don't pay commissions to our VIP account managers. So I feel there are a set of recommendations that are contemplated in our outlook and in a relative sense I think that we are very well positioned.

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Justin Barrett
Analyst, CLSA

Yeah, fantastic. And then, Bill, on the new commercial model, you're saying that 97% of the network by turnover is now operational. Just wanted to confirm, I guess, that that includes all the largest of your partners in that retail network. One in particular sort of expressed some concerns, I guess, about that new model.

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Gillian Mellochlan
Managing Director & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, and I don't know who you're talking about, but yes, it does. I think the language is particularly precise, Justin, just to be clear, and I'm going to call it out with ALH. We have reached commercial agreement with them, but we have three or four issues to resolve in the long-form agreement, and that's why we were, I guess, precise in our language to do that. Broadly, all the big groups are on board with some technicality and the exact status of the contracting. That's all I'm talking to you.

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Justin Barrett
Analyst, CLSA

Great. Thanks very much.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. Next, we have David Fabros from Macquarie.

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David Fabros
Analyst, Macquarie

Oh, hi, Gil. Hi, Mark. Just to go back to the commercial or the retail commercial model benefits, I guess if I look at that VC margin, it looks to improve by about 1.5 percentage points sequentially. So if we're thinking about FY27, is it safe to kind of use that second half margin as a guide, or how should we think about the VC margin into 27 for the wagering business, please?

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Mark Howe
Chief Financial Officer

I think, thanks, David, it's Mark. I think, obviously, there will be some improvement in VC margin as a result of the commercial model. I won't give you a number, but I'll give you a sort of an outline of how to think about the incremental impact As I said, there will be some OPEX investment. That is net as the number that I talked to earlier. But yeah, the margin should continue to step up into F27.

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David Fabros
Analyst, Macquarie

Gotcha. But to be clear, that's off the second half 27 VC margin, not the FY26 average?

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Mark Howe
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, that's correct.

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David Fabros
Analyst, Macquarie

Okay, perfect. Excellent. And then look, just on the cost, I really appreciate the guidance there for the 3% to 3.5% growth. Can you give any indication of the growth if you exclude the regulatory and risk uplist programs? I guess I'm trying to split that out and think about whether or not some of those costs can come back out of the business in time or how we should think about it.

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Mark Howe
Chief Financial Officer

Look, to give you a sort of response, you know, we called out, as you noted, 3% to 3.5% growth in OPEX into F27 or the F26 base. have called out investment in risk and regulatory uplift programs, and then I've talked to the investment in the loyalty program associated with the new retail commercial model. I think it's fair to say about half of that growth in OPEX is relating to those two items, and the other half relates to just general cost inflation.

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David Fabros
Analyst, Macquarie

Got you then. So I guess if you think about loving that... We're not assuming...

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Mark Howe
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, we're not assuming at this stage, David, to answer your question that we're going to be taking costs out of that.

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Gillian Mellochlan
Managing Director & Chief Executive Officer

I think, David, this is Gil. I'd be sanguine about removing the compliance costs after a period. We are committed to our uplift plan and our safety and compliance. No decision being made, but I think that will be an ongoing investment.

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David Fabros
Analyst, Macquarie

Gotcha. Gotcha. That's fair. And then just, sorry, one last question for me. You know, obviously the BetMakers transaction is hopefully going to complete in 3Q FY27. But how do you think about your CapEx on app development and the tech stack whilst you wait for that transaction to complete? Does anything change on that course?

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Mark Howe
Chief Financial Officer

Oh, look, I think, David, what I'd say is that all of that will need to take into consideration as we get closer. Obviously we're going to continue our investment in the app until we've got a greater level of certainty around completion but needless to say that obviously we think forward in terms of what that potential acquisition can do for the business and invest in a measured way around that.

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David Fabros
Analyst, Macquarie

Okay, appreciate it. Thank you very much.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. Next, we have Sam Bradshaw from Avon Empire.

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Mark Howe
Chief Financial Officer

Hey, good morning, Gil and Mark.

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Matt Ryan
Analyst, Baron Joey

Just wondering if feedback so far has been from some of your bet makers' customers here in Australia. Thanks.

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Gillian Mellochlan
Managing Director & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Sam. In terms of the larger customers, and I think it applies across the board, but I've spoken directly with the larger operators, to assure them that they will get a very professional service for us and that we have ultimately had some experience now of being a wholesaler to the market and the service they've got in that in terms of say the wholesale and the B2B of Sky Vision is the service they would expect in any of the services that would be in our wholesale business and that we would have strong disciplines around the way they received whatever products and services they're getting and that we can do that in a way that is they should feel completely comfortable and I think people appreciated the calls and I'd say that to anyone and we continue to reach out to all our prospective additional B2B partners to say that we have been a wholesaler for some time and they should feel comfortable with our aspirations. You can continue to grow that and the way we go about it. Great. Thank you.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. I see no further questions at this time. I will now pass back to Gil for closing remarks.

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Gillian Mellochlan
Managing Director & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you. Thank you all for your participation. So to finish where we started, we have a clear plan. We are working very hard to regain the trust of the market. We think we're doing what we say. We are pleased with our numbers as they start to play through. We know we've got lots of work to do and we'll continue to focus on our capability and our culture that means that we execute effectively. Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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