5/7/2025

speaker
Operator
Conference Moderator

Good morning ladies and gentlemen and a warm welcome to today's earnings call of the Ziel Network SE following the publication of the Q1 figures of 2025. I am delighted to welcome the CEO Dr. Helmut Becker and the CFO Andrea Behrendt who will guide us through the presentation and the results. After the presentation we will move on to a Q&A session in which you will be allowed to place your questions directly via audio line to the management. Questions via chat cannot be submitted today. So having said this, Mrs. Behrend, the stage is yours.

speaker
Andrea Behrendt
CFO

Good morning, everybody, and welcome to our Q1 Earnings Call. First of all, Sorry that none of you won actually the 120 million euro jackpot yesterday. Bad luck for you, but great news for Zeal. So let's talk business. I hope you all can see the presentation. If not, you can find it on our website. Let me talk you through the agenda. We will share the highlights of Q1, then go into the financial details, followed by an update on strategic focus and the guidance for 2025. We will iterate our dividend proposal and close with the key takeaways. Before, it's your turn and we are happy to take your questions. Handing over to Helmut now to give us a short summary for Q1.

speaker
Dr. Helmut Becker
CEO

Good morning. Q1 was a successful quarter. Compared to last year, we saw very strong margins. We acquired more new customers than ever before in a quarter without a peak jackpot. Our high revenue growth continued and our EBITDA almost doubled. Back to Andrea.

speaker
Andrea Behrendt
CFO

Thanks, Helmut. Now let's get into the details of our Q1 financials. First of all, let's put the results into context with the jackpot environment. As you all know, jackpots are important for us to drive customer acquisition and activation of our existing customers. Q1 2025 was marked by the absence of any peak jackpot. This compares to four peak jackpots in Q1 2024. Despite this jackpot environment, we had a successful quarter. fueled by the strong growth of our customer base in Q4 of last year. So on slide seven, you will see how this translates into our financials for Q1. Here, I want to highlight three numbers for you. We see an overall revenue growth of 42%. This is driven by an increased billings of 7% and an improved margin. We increased our marketing spend by 16% and acquired more new customers than ever before in a quarter without a peak jackpot. And bottom line, we delivered strong results with an EBITDA of 17.7 million euros. Let's zoom into the billings growth of 7% that I mentioned in the quarter without any peak jackpots. On the back of the strong Q4 2024 customer cohort, we were able to achieve 1.5 million monthly active users on our platform. And these customers spent an average 59 euros per month. On the next slide, you see the second driver for the revenue increase, our margin expansion. We achieved an underlying lottery gross margin of 16.9%, mainly based on the successful price increase that we implemented last year and a continuously improving product mix. Let's look on the other side of the gross driver for Zeal, our customer acquisition, and you will see that on slide 10. With 247,000 new customers, we acquired a record number of new customers for a quarter without any peak jackpots. The overall cost per lead was 48.5 euros. This is higher than last year due to jackpot situation, increased overall media prices, and marketing tests to reach new target groups in our new businesses. With an isolated view on the core brokerage business, the CPL is 41.1 euro. For comparison to previous quarters, we added the backup slide 24 for you. And now handing over to Helmut for an update on our businesses, games and Traunhaus Palosen.

speaker
Dr. Helmut Becker
CEO

Thanks, Andrea. Yeah, let me talk about two other parts of our business. First about games. As expected, our games business steadily gains traction based on the improvements we are rolling out. We have grown our games portfolio to over 400 games now. Importantly, we added some well-known games, games brands that customers recognize. In the past, we saw lottery jackpots, peak jackpots driving growth in our games business. In Q1, we have stable monthly active users and billings and revenue growth in our games business, even though we didn't have a single peak jackpot. This retention of activity shows that our customer value proposition in games increasingly resonates with our users. Let me now move on and talk about DreamHouse Raffle. Our second DreamHouse Raffle ended with the house draw on 28th of February. The results were even stronger than those for the first house draw across the board. We generated 2 million euros for charity. Our third house raffle is already underway. This time it's a house in Bavaria. The draw will happen on the 2nd of June. And now back to Andrea.

speaker
Andrea Behrendt
CFO

Let me give you now an update on the progress we made on our strategic focus areas in Q1. On slide 14, you will see the three strategic focus areas that I shared with you already in the last earnings poll. So firstly, we continue to improve our customer acquisition and profitability in our core brokerage business. What have we seen in Q1? We have seen in Q1 already an underlying lottery gross margin of over 16%. And we already improved our customer acquisition in Q1 in a weak jackpot environment. Our second focus area is Traumhausverlosung. After a successful launch, we are on track to deliver four draws. And the product side, we implemented subscription features for our Lotto24 customers and added a high-end car raffle that you might have seen. And for games, as Helmut already mentioned, we increased our portfolio to over 400 games already and generated a year-over-year growth of 56%. As you can see, we are on track to deliver on our targets that we committed to. We had a strong start with Q1 and confirm our full year guidance as presented in March. Just ensuring that you are not taking the Q1 results and multiply them by four, we expect additional investments in our new business growth, especially in Dreamhouse Raffle in the next quarters. On slide 17, You will find some facts about the dividend proposal as we already communicated in March. After the LGM in two weeks, we plan to pay out 51 million euros to our shareholders in form of a basic dividend of 1,30 euro per share and a special dividend of 1,10 euro per share. And now handing over to Helmut to close this presentation with the key takeaways.

speaker
Dr. Helmut Becker
CEO

Thanks, Andrea. So we increased our gross margin to more than 17% now. We expanded our customer base despite a weak jackpot environment. Our strong revenue growth continued and our EBITDA nearly doubled. Our EBITDA margin is higher than 34%. That's it for today. And now we are ready to move on to questions and answers.

speaker
Operator
Conference Moderator

Thank you very much for your presentation and congratulations on your increasing results. We will now move on to the Q&A session. For a dynamic conversation, we kindly ask you to ask questions in person via audio line. To do so, click on the raise your hand button. If you have dialed in by phone, please use the key combination star nine followed by star six. And please note that questions via chat box cannot be submitted today. And we already have three hands up. Mr. Marius Fuhrberg, you should be able to speak now.

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Marius Fuhrberg
Analyst

Yeah, thanks for taking my questions. The first one with regards to the indirect costs which were a little bit higher than previous quarters or in relation to sales. How much of those indirect costs had a one-off character or do you expect this level to maintain a little bit higher than previous throughout the year and the second question is with regards to your guidance and you just told us that we should not extrapolate Q1 on the remainder of the year and I understand that you plan higher investments but if I look at the top line I would assume that we should at least see let's say Q1 times 4 especially With the current jackpot environment I would even expect growth compared to Q1 throughout the remainder of the year. Would you agree with that or is there something I'm missing?

speaker
Andrea Behrendt
CFO

Thanks, Marius, for your questions. So on the indirect cost side, so I think it's just in line with the projections of the last quarters. I think we had exceptionally high other operating costs in Q4 last year, but the level that you see now, I think, is realistic. And on the guidance, we confirm, of course, our guidance. We can see good top line development.

speaker
Operator
Conference Moderator

Right now, we cannot hear you in the management line. This will take a second.

speaker
Dr. Helmut Becker
CEO

We're back. Please continue with the questions.

speaker
Operator
Conference Moderator

Okay. Thank you so much. Mr. Tim Kruse, you should be able to speak now.

speaker
Tim Kruse
Analyst

Yes, thanks for taking my question. Congratulations on the great quarter once again. On the Traumhaus, I have a few questions. First of all, yeah, great that you could increase all the KPIs. Is it correct that you record the billings for the raffle continuously through the quarter? So Q3 would have had one month of the current raffle. Could you just confirm that?

speaker
Andrea Behrendt
CFO

Right, Tim. Yes, we can confirm that the billings are based on the quarters.

speaker
Tim Kruse
Analyst

Okay. Then maybe quick follow-up. How do you see sort of player activity throughout the raffle? Is it evenly distributed or do you see sort of, you know, activity, yeah, throughout different activities throughout the raffle? That would be interesting.

speaker
Dr. Helmut Becker
CEO

Yeah, we see strong activity when we launch a new house. We see some activity pushed by the intermediate raffles, like if we raffle off a car, for example, that drives activity. And then the biggest part is, of course, the days before the raffle, we see a peak in activity. And then, of course, there's a baseline activity happening throughout the full draw period.

speaker
Tim Kruse
Analyst

Okay, so fair to assume quite a bit of activity at the beginning and then at the end, sort of the highest and in between, yeah, sort of baseline. Okay, that's helpful.

speaker
Dr. Helmut Becker
CEO

The highest is at the end, yes.

speaker
Tim Kruse
Analyst

Yeah, okay, okay. Yeah, then maybe one comment on the CPLs in Q1, although the jackpot activity was not so high. I mean, I think we saw quite low CPLs second half of last year. So maybe you could just comment on the maybe competitive environment on your keywords and Yeah, how you see that going on through the year. And then maybe lastly, on the games, is it sort of with the new games you increased in Q1 and the increase in revenue there? Is this a level depending on the playing activity of the lotteries, which you would assume to go out throughout the year? Or do you have higher activities that would actually even stimulate the games business?

speaker
Dr. Helmut Becker
CEO

Yeah, so on the CPL, what we're seeing is a slightly higher CPL, as Andrea pointed out. Part of it is experiments that we did, especially in the new businesses. And that's why Andrea also talked about the CPL that we have in our core business only. There's a small effect, I think, which is sort of a baseline increase in media cost. but the larger effect is due to the jackpot situation. We see slightly different CPLs in low jackpot situations than in high situations. I think the most important message is that the CPL is very well within our target range and our payback periods are great and even better than last year. And to your second question, on the game side, We will continue to grow our games portfolio and that will continue to have a positive effect. We will also roll out further features, customer facing features that will improve the games business. And what we expect there, and I think we've said this before, is a steady growth in our games business. We have to be a little bit patient, but we see a lot of potential and we will see this materialize in form of steady growth.

speaker
Tim Kruse
Analyst

Okay, thank you. Very helpful. All the best.

speaker
Operator
Conference Moderator

Thank you very much for your questions, Mr. Kruse. And we will go on with Henry Wendisch. The stage is yours.

speaker
Henry Wendisch
Analyst

Hi, thanks, everybody. And congrats for your strong results. Sort of feels like it's hard to find a hair in the soup results, but we'll try my best. Maybe we can... Felix Knueplinger, elaborate please elaborate a bit more on page 10 of presentation, you mentioned the games on page 11 sorry. Felix Knueplinger, That the monthly active user activity in games was sort of. high despite the weak jackpot so maybe could you please elaborate a little bit more how we can think of the relationship between the games user activity and the jackpot environment so usually I would assume that if jackpots are high user activity and lottery is high and then the activity in games is also higher because people see the product offering and then also play a little bit more games than they usually do is that the fair assumption or what is the connection that we see here

speaker
Dr. Helmut Becker
CEO

Henry, I couldn't have explained it any better than you just did. So yes, peak jackpots drive traffic. Some of that traffic then ends up on our games pages. And I think what we are seeing here, which makes us confident, is that even in low jackpot situations where we don't have as much traffic and less discovery of games, there is a lot of players who are just returning and who just continue to play games. And like I said, that tells us that the game's value proposition is resonating more and more with our users.

speaker
Henry Wendisch
Analyst

Okay, thanks a lot. And also, I've seen that you're partnering a little bit with Tipico and Gamoma. How can we think of that? What does this partnership look like in detail? How does it affect your user metrics at games? And which segment is it recorded? Maybe you could give a little bit more detail here.

speaker
Dr. Helmut Becker
CEO

Yeah. So it's about the games portfolio, both for us and also for our partners. So the games industry is a very promiscuous industry. What I mean by that is that we integrate games from other partners and they integrate games from us. We have our own game studio where we have unique games. So that's why partners are interested in our games. And, you know, some of the names that you mentioned and others are well-known brands in the games business, and they have well-known games in the industry known by the users. And so it's helpful to have these games on our site because customers recognize them. And then that leads to better conversion and retention.

speaker
Henry Wendisch
Analyst

Okay, got it. So it's not like... Like people can play via the typical page on your games, which would then influence your, for example, monthly active users. It's not like that. It's more like a technology partnership.

speaker
Dr. Helmut Becker
CEO

Yeah, we are integrating some of their games and they are integrating some of our games.

speaker
Henry Wendisch
Analyst

Okay, got it. Cool. And then last question is regarding the marketing and marketing tests that you're doing. Could you please go more into detail? What can we think of this? sort of what kind of tests are you doing and how are they working out? So maybe we can think of user intake for the rest of the year, given a basic or average jackpot environment.

speaker
Dr. Helmut Becker
CEO

Yeah, we're testing different channels, like, of course, always continue to optimize and improve the standard channels like Google and Facebook and Instagram, but we also doing TV advertising, testing there for our new businesses. We are now on TikTok, for example. So always testing new channels. We are always testing new creatives and different creatives. Yeah. And, you know, and then we're testing some products too. Like we have a team player product, for example. So it's a great product. The user KPIs look very good. So we are testing advertising for that product as well. So if you follow us on Instagram, for example, you would have seen some advertising there in recent days. Yeah, and look, like always, some of these tests are very successful and that's the stuff we continue. And some of the test results are not so successful and then we stop it. But it's important to try these things in order to overall continue to optimize our marketing.

speaker
Henry Wendisch
Analyst

Okay, got it. Thanks a lot. And congrats again.

speaker
Operator
Conference Moderator

Thank you very much, Mr. Wendig. And we will go on with our last hand up for today. Let me remind you, if you have any questions left, you can place them now. And we go on with Abed Jarad.

speaker
Abed Jarad
Analyst

Hi, good morning, everyone. I have a follow-up question regarding the revenue guidance for the full year. I know you already explained it, but I would like some more clarification because just as was mentioned before, even if we assume like zero jackpot peaks in the upcoming three quarters, we already land at the midpoint of the full year guidance. Is there any reason or anything unusual in Q1 that prevents you from upgrading at least the revenue guidance?

speaker
Andrea Behrendt
CFO

Hi, Abdeb. Thanks for your question. So, Q1, there was nothing unusual inside. So, we are confirming our revenue guidance and are very optimistic here.

speaker
Abed Jarad
Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

speaker
Operator
Conference Moderator

Thank you very much, Mr. Jarad. And as we have no questions left, we come to the end of today's earnings call. Should further questions arise at a later time, please feel free to contact Frank Hoffmann from Investor Relations. And a big thank you also to Mr. Becker and Ms. Behrendt for your presentation and the time you took to answer the questions. I wish you all a lovely remaining week. And with this, I hand over again to Ms. Behrendt for some final remarks.

speaker
Andrea Behrendt
CFO

Yeah, thanks again for joining this call tomorrow and this morning and making the time and your interest in ZL's growth path. And remember, we have 120 million up for grabs on Friday. So looking forward for Q2 numbers.

speaker
Dr. Helmut Becker
CEO

Thanks. Bye-bye.

speaker
Andrea Behrendt
CFO

Bye.

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