5/26/2021

speaker
John-Paul Savant
Chief Executive Officer

Hello and thank you for joining us today on ATG's first interim results call. We're excited to have you here and to share what we've been able to do over the last six months. First of all, I guess if you've seen the posting from this morning, we're very happy with these first year results. The last six months with our revenue being up 48% and our EBITDA being up 158% year over year. The key message that I think we wanted to get across with these results is that the momentum that we saw at the back half of fiscal year 20 has been sustained and has carried on right through the first half of fiscal year 21 for us. And at the same time, while we're seeing some very positive signs on all the key metrics, we want to just remind people that as we come up to these summer months of June, July, and August, ATG will be lapping some of the most extraordinary performance that it has had. And so while we remain positive about where we're headed, we want to just be cautious about where we look as we look into fiscal year 22 until we get through that summer period. So looking at today, what we'll be covering is the results. We're doing a financial review, and we'll be giving you a little bit of a look out to the strategy, and then we'll be taking some Q&A. If you can go to the next slide. What we wanted to talk about just briefly before diving into the results is just giving people a little bit of a reminder on ATG, who we are and what makes the company special. And I think the key thing I wanted to bring across here is just reminding people that the auction industry is absolutely massive. And it's a part of our economy that people don't think about very often, but it is absolutely huge. And it is still going through that structural shift from offline to online. And ATG is leading the evolution of that auction industry from offline to online. And we're doing it by providing real measurable value. And we do that by driving higher asset returns for auctioneers and by giving bidders access to the best inventory of curated online items for specialized and unique items in the world. How do we do that? We do that by connecting over 2000 auction houses with bidders from 150 countries around the world. And we enable auctioneers of all different sizes, leveling that playing field by enabling them to leverage specialized robust technology, a global bidder base, and at the same time to realize cost savings through our integrated systems. That's one half of the marketplace. The other side is the bidders. And when you look at what we do for bidders, we empower bidders from across the globe by enabling them to buy at auction in a trusted, convenient, secure and engaging form. We list over 12 million items per year and run over 30,000 auctions on our technology. If you can go to the next slide. This is just a quick reminder of our business model. And just to remind people again, we are an actively managed digital marketplace. And what that really means is that bidders are coming to the ATG brands, auctioneers come for access to the bidders, and that in turn creates the virtuous circle that you see on this slide. But what's the real advantage of a virtuous circle? What do people mean when they say that? And I think just to draw that out, The key thing with the virtuous circle is that because you have the best inventory, it brings the bidders. And because you have the bidders, it brings more inventory. And what you then get the benefit of is two things. The first thing is that you get very affordable, cheap acquisition of new buyers, which is one of the most expensive things when people are trying to build an e-commerce presence. And the second thing you get is that you attract the inventory naturally, which means you're not having to sell as often or as hard as in certain other industries. And that's something that ATG has benefited from. We are the first, we rank first in each of our six marketplaces in each of the geographies and verticals in which we operate. And as a result, being first really matters in that network virtuous circle environment. We attract those bidders and we attract the inventory. And as a result, we're able to also spread out the fixed costs of our technology, which is the other big expense in running a marketplace. If you go to the next slide. So some of the big highlights is that we've achieved quite a bit against each of the growth levers that we set out. And the first one there is that we've had excellent first half results that we're very pleased with, all six marketplaces contributing to those results. We've seen that structural shift online from offline accelerated by COVID. As I mentioned, it's been sustained and with key online share gains, most notably at Proxibid, which as you'll recall from the IPO process, that was a big focus for us, was driving that Proxibid online share higher. The third point is that our shared success model has attracted incremental THV from existing auctioneers. And also we've expanded our total addressable market with THV in new verticals. And just remind you, THV is the total value of the items listed on our site in any given period. The fourth point is we acquired Auction Mobility, expanding our white label offering specifically in North America. And we completed the replatforming with Lattissimo onto the ATG code base. In the fifth point here, we've combined during this period, we've also focused on the operational elements. And so we combined our bid spotter and proxy bid businesses into one location in Omaha, Nebraska, creating further efficiencies. And then lastly, we were doing this while going through the process of an IPO. And so we believe, again, that enhanced ability to lead the evolution of the auction industry really has been strengthened with this IPO. And we believe we'll be seeing the benefits of that in the years to come. So with that, if you can go to the next slide. So what we're particularly pleased with here is that our numbers, we believe, really reflect the progress we've made against our strategy. We brought new stock onto the market. And when you look, first of all, at the revenue, 34.5 million of revenue, up 48%. EBITDA at 17 million up 158%, our bidder sessions up 35% to 64 million. And then down here on the bottom, you see those key indicators that we often talk about. So total hammer value again, being the total value of everything listed on our system has grown by 31%, which is just a huge jump on a year over year basis. Online share is up 13 percentage points year over year to 37%, reflecting that COVID acceleration that I talked about. And then the most important number to focus on is really the gross merchandise value, because that's the value of everything ATG actually sold online. The 3 billion is the amount that we list, but as you know, that can be sold through offline, through the phone, through other marketplaces. The value that ATG specifically sells is our gross merchandise value, and that's what we make our revenue on. And that number grew 101% year over year to 1.1 billion. And I think what you're able to see from that massive growth in what we're selling, translating into the revenue growth and the profit growth is the incredible operating leverage that we have in the business. If you can move to the next slide. So during the IPO Roadshow, this was a key slide that we talked about. So we wanted to come back to this to just make sure people see that the trends that we saw that began in fiscal year 20 have continued in the first half of fiscal year 21. And so if you look at the left-hand side of the page first, you'll see the different marketplaces and the growth in our online share. Specifically, if you look at bidspotter.co.uk, bidspotter.com, and Proxibid, these are our North American industrial and commercial groups, and one of them is in the UK. But as you'll see, we increased our online share in all of those areas. And I specifically wanted to call out Proxibid there, where we grew from 32% back at year end September to 39%. and that's the achievement there really i wanted to comment on because often when you grow thv you'll see online share remains stagnant or it will even decline slightly but in this period of time we were able to grow proxy bids thv by 19 percent And we were able to grow the online share by 7%. So that's really speaking to the value add that ATG brings when it's acquiring the different businesses. It does specifically approximate where we've really moved the online share in the midst of the pandemic from a level that was dramatically lower when it was owned by the previous owners. On the right hand side, what you see is something that is also important because if you look at the top side of that page, you'll see that we again grew our THV or the value of everything listed on the system by 33% on the sale room, by 719% on iBidder, which is a consumer surplus and returns portal, and by 41% on Lattissimo, which is our German art and antiques marketplace. And the reason why this is really key to bring out is that we grew our THV more in the areas in the marketplaces where we have relatively lower penetration online share. And as a result, what you'll see on the right hand side of the page is that while our online share grew on a year over year basis from 24 to 37%, it declined slightly from the second half of 20 from 42 to 37. But that's not because we weren't continuing to grow our GMV, which is the real measure of success across the marketplaces, is simply because we grew the THV by such an amount that the online share of the art and antiques divisions and the consumer surplus and returns divisions, the weighted average of those divisions online share is lower and that brought down the overall average. But the overall GMV in all of these marketplaces is growing dramatically. And the key message here is that with the THV growing, that's a very positive sign for us because it's laying the foundation for future growth and future online share gains that we can take to keep that momentum going on the GMV growth. So with that, I will pass over to Tom, who will cover the financials.

speaker
Tom
Chief Financial Officer

Good morning, everybody. If we can make sure we're on slide 10, I'll take you through the numbers. Before I do that, can I just explain how we've put together the prior numbers? Last year, the group only really existed. This is approximately an ATG for six weeks of the period. It came into creation on the 13th of 13th of february 2020 um when you look at our interim statements than any of our statutory numbers in the prior year you will only see six weeks worth of trading clearly that's not very useful for this exercise to get so to get some comparable numbers so you see the real trends we've aggregated together both proxy bid and atgs if the group had existed for the whole six months in the prior year and all the numbers you'll see in this presentation are shown on that basis so that They're like for like numbers. There's a little reconciliation at the back of the pack in the appendix. I think there is also in the interim statement. so um moving to the numbers john paul's already given you some of these headlines but aggregate revenue of 34 and a half million played 23.3 million last year so that's 11 million pounds increase headline growth 48 so we benefited from the acquisition of auction mobility which came in october 20 and also if you normalize for fx treated at constant currency you get an organic growth rate of 41 still an extremely healthy level of organic growth If you go halfway down the table, you can see our adjusted EBITDA at 17 million. So that's a 49% EBITDA margin for the half year. That played 6.6 million in the prior year, so that's a 10 million increase. So if that 11 million increase in revenue, 10 million's dropped through to adjusted EBITDA, which, again, just demonstrates what we said earlier, we have very high operating leverage in the business. We are benefiting a little bit from proxy bid synergies, because clearly in the first half of last year, there were none. We're now getting a full a full benefit from proxy business in this half year, but also we bought in the auction ability costs. So those two kind of balance each other out. If you move up a line, you'll see operating loss. So despite the EBITDA of 17 million, we have an operating loss of 12. So three things driving that. We have exception items, which pretty much all relate to the costs associated with the IPO and the professional fees associated with that, about 9 million. We have share-based payment charge of 10 million, again, with a lot of shares issued to staff and employees prior to the IPO, and the IPO triggered a large charge for that. And then you've got the normal amortisation of intangibles, another 9 million. So three elements relating to that explain the difference between the EBITDA and operating loss, but fairly standard things predominantly related to the IPO event we had in the half year. If you look at free cash flow, so that's EBITDA, less trading working capital, less capex, 14.5 million. So the vast majority, 86% of that EBITDA flowed through to free cash flow. And the final thing I'll say on here, you'll see our net debt at the end of last year was 200 million. Clearly, we had a different financing structure as a PEO business. One of the objectives of the IPO was to get net leverage down to nil. And you can see now we're sat with a net 6 million pounds in the bank. If we move to slide 11, this impacts the revenue growth a little bit more. On the left-hand side, you can see this build from the statutory reported number of 6.5 million, which is just for that six-week period from the 13th of February. You then add in ATG and proxy bid to get you to a whole six months of trading for both businesses, gets you to 23.3 million for last year. On a constant currency basis, our organic growth in those businesses were 9.6 million, which gives you that 41% organic growth. We then have an FX hit, so 70% of our revenue is in dollars. And I'm sure everyone will be familiar, the dollar has been weakening, sterling has been strengthening. If you compare the average rate for the two half-year periods, it's about 7% stronger sterling is relative to the dollar, which has cost us 1.1 million of revenue. Probably also worth noting, as we sat here today, that 7% is now more like 11, 12% weakening. So the drag in the second half of the year, it's not going to be huge, but will be bigger than we've seen in the first half of the year, just because of where exchange rates are at the moment. So that gets you organic revenue of 31.8 at current year exchange rates. You then add in auction ability acquisition, which happened in October 2020, gives you an extra 2.8, getting to the total revenue growth of 48%. We then move to slide 12. It shows a breakdown of that revenue number by category of revenue. So you can see on the left-hand side, prior year numbers 23.3, 60% of that is commission. And if you look on the right-hand side, you see the current year first half numbers of 34.5, and you see the vast majority the revenue grows from 14 to 22.9 so 9 million has come from commission which is all driven by the extra gmv that's going through the platforms you'll also see there that auction ability at the top has resulted in the growth of our auction services revenue from 0.8 to 3.5 Now, the middle column is the second half of last year. Now, normally, these things, we would only show two comparable like-for-like periods in these year-over-years, but because last year was very much a year of two halves, it was kind of pre-COVID, which is the first half of the year, and post-COVID, second half of the year, we thought it'd be interesting, in this case, to show how the second half of last year compared to the first half of this year, which are both two COVID periods, so you can perhaps see how we're trading through COVID. So not much to say on this view of life. You can see commission still grown into the first half this year versus last year. The one thing that you do notice is that that other marketplace revenue was 5.8 million in the second half of last year. It's grown to 6.8 million in the first half of this year. you might remember at the beginning of lockdown in the UK which happened at the beginning of that second half year last year lots of auction houses closed and the salary in particular stopped charging for a three-month period auction houses its fixed fees and its subscription fees those fully restarted in the back end of last year and we've now had a full four six months worth of contribution which has resulted in that revenue line growing back to 6.8 million if we move over to slide 13 gives the numbers by segment. And the first thing I'll say here, based on what you saw, what people have seen at IPA, we have a new segment, auction services. So because auction vulnerabilities come in, it doesn't really naturally fit into either arts and antiques or industrial and commercial. It's agnostic of sector. we've created a new vertical we've also pulled into there the back office revenues that we used to have which also were previously lost in arts and antiques and industrial and commercial but also aren't really specific to any one vertical um to create the new auction services segment there is a little reconciliation in the appendix again for people who are trying to move between the numbers they previously had and the numbers they've got now So when you look at the numbers, arts and antiques growth of 21% on a reported basis, industrial and commercial stand out 51% growth year over year. And you can see that on a constant currency organic basis, because most of that revenue is coming from the US, the growth was actually 59%, so nearly 60%, giving you total marketplace growth reported a 42%. get auction services coming in which is an inflated growth number because of the acquisition if you were to do a pro forma number and treat it as if auction ability be owned throughout um this year and last year that number is still a very strong 62 so auction ability is actually growing above the rate of the rest of the group enjoying exactly the same drivers that uh the industrial commercial and arts and antiques have been doing through through covid That's giving you total digital revenue growth of 53% year over year. And then content, slight decline, gives you total headline revenue growth of 48% or organic constant currency excluding optionability, 41% growth. If we move to the next slide, slide 14. Gives you a bit more detail on some of the trading KPIs. So these are the numbers for the whole group. Total hammer values, as John Paul's already said, this is the value of everything that's sold at auctions that we take part in, whether we sell it or not. That's on the left-hand side. On the right-hand side is GMV. So that's where, that's by value, the items that we provide the winning bidder for. And that's the number we earn commission on and is the direct driver of revenue. And then online share in the middle, which is really one divided by the other or the percentage by value where we're contributing the winner bidder to auctions we take part in. So if we look at what's happened, we'll start on the right-hand side. You see last year our GMV in the first half was 576 billion and it's grown to 1.1 billion in the first half of this year. So a constant currency, it's doubled. Why is that? If you move over to the middle chart online share, biggest single driver of that, about 70% of the contribution of that increase. is the online share increase from 24 to 37, so 13 percentage points increase, which is, as we all know, the structural shift online which has been accelerated through the COVID period, and in particular the adoption of online-only auctions. However, not to be forgotten and making a significant contribution in its own right this time is THV growth. If you go to the right-hand side, you see we have 3 billion of THV in the first half of this year, which compares to 2.4 billion in the prior year, so 31% growth. So historically, THV has grown in the single digits, low to mid single digits. So to get 31% growth year over year is exceptional. John Paul's already shown you the slide, but we've seen that across all marketplaces. So it's everywhere. We've seen that amongst auctioneers who are sort of operating traditional segments where we've been strong, but we've also seen it in places where traditionally we haven't played so heavily. And in absolute terms of that 600 million of growth, about half is from kind of traditional sectors where we've historically been strong and half is in areas where we have been less prevalent. Which kind of leads you to the middle column, the half year two, and how does half year one compare with the second half of last year? If you look at THV, you can see the growth in absolute terms, it was similar to the first half of last year, but in relative terms, given seasonality, half year two number 17% growth year over year. Last year, when we sat here at IPO, we were saying that performance was exceptional. However, as you can see, it's carried on and we've done better in the first half of this year. And really when you look into half year two in a bit more detail, in the first quarter, so Q3 last year, things were a bit subdued. That was the early days of COVID, so it was okay, but growth wasn't strong and it really started to accelerate as we went through the back end of last year. So Q4, you had very strong growth. And what we're seeing is that's just carried on. So the levels of activity that we had we exited the year at in FY20 have carried on through half year, half year one, 21. If we then move to the online share, and John Paul's already made this point, if you actually, we saw a very high level of online share in the middle, at the back end of last year, so 42%, which has come down to 37%. Two reasons for that is A, the mixed effect. You see, we've seen the biggest growth in our marketplaces, which have a lower average online share. So like for like, everything's unchanged. It's just the headline. because the mixed effect has come down. But also that non-traditional THV, which has contributed about half of that growth, is in areas where we would attract a lower than average online share, which has also dragged it down. If you looked at like-for-like cohorts of auctioneers and like-for-like verticals, actually there's been very little, almost no discernible change in the underlying level of an online share versus what we achieved in the second half of last year versus the first half of this year. And certainly when auctioneers who in industrial commercial space have adopted timed auctions, we have seen no reversion back to live auctions. Levels and penetration are the same as they were at the back end of last year. So if we move to the next slide, slide 15. take rate and total revenue so you can see the take rate in half year one last year was 3.6 percent and that went to come down to 2.7 percent in each of the second half of last year and first half of this year take rate is calculated as total revenue divided by gmv total revenue's got commission in it which moves in lockstep with gmv but it's also got fixed fees and advertising which doesn't so when you get this big step change in gmv like we've had a doubling of gmv um the top half of the equation some of it moves but some of it doesn't which just mathematically gives you that reduction so that's what the effect that we saw in the second half of last year if you come through to this year you can see it's still there because volumes haven't gone back uh volumes have stayed high so we've kept the same take rate on an underlying level if you look at underlying pricing everywhere there's been almost no changes between the second half of last year and the first half of this year the only thing that's gone on which isn't material enough to impact these headline KPIs is the reversion to charging for fixed fees in the sale room and all that's translated to on the right hand side marketplace revenue which has grown 47% in the first half of the year and is about 10% higher than it was in the second half of last year. Okay, so if you move over and I'll do these next ones relatively quickly because it's the same picture. This is just on the industrial and commercial basis. Okay, if you look on the right hand side, 945 million of GMV doubled from where it was a year ago. Main driver of that is online share, which you can see in the middle going from 29 to 43%. And it's really in industrial and commercial where this big step up in THV has happened, particularly where these non-traditional THV has started coming through. And this is where IBID is that you saw had that 700% increase in THV sits with these numbers. So it's gone from 1.6 billion to 2.2. which is why when you get to the online share well as we said on a sort of like-to-like basis it's been flat between half year two and half year one half year two last year and half year one this year the headline numbers come down because of the extra thv that's come through If we move to slide 17, exactly the same effect all described in take rate, just the mix and the growth in THV reducing the overall level, but half year and half year it's been stable, all of which was resulted in revenue growth of nearly 60% on a constant currency basis and about a million higher than it was in the second half of last year. And then finally, if we move to arts and antiques, pretty much the same picture. The only difference here is if you look on the THV chart on the left-hand side, you'll see that actually in the second half of last year, it dipped down. That's predominantly due to the cell room in the first lockdown, which kind of started kicking in. in April last year so the beginning of that half year a lot of auction houses did close and so there was a reduction in THV and we've had two lockdowns during the first half of this year but they had far less impact I wouldn't say there was no impact but far less impact than that first lockdown so you can see that big step up in THV that we've seen. uh that we've seen um in the first half of this year from where we were in the back end of last year which all of which with the online share drivers that we've just described contributed to 60 70 growth in gmv year on year and about 30 million extra than we achieved in the second half of last year same same uh same drivers to take rates as before slight reduction in take rates in arts and antiques basically because latissimus growing above average uh relative to the salary and this does have a have a lower sale rate and charges a lower average commission this area so there's again a mixed effect going on reducing that headline but fundamentally there's no real difference in the pricing that we're achieving overall that's resulted in that revenue step up of 22 or versus where we were last year about one and a half million extra versus the second half And the final two segments, auction services and content revenue, see that auction services are already described. This year, half year, it's benefiting from the acquisition of Auction Mobility. If you sort of put Auction Mobility in the previous numbers, it's grown around 60, 62% on a constant currency basis year over year. So enjoying very strong performance since we bought the business, performing pretty much exactly as we hoped it would do. And then content revenue on the right-hand side, 1.6 billion last year, It went down to 1.2, so it was badly affected during the early months of COVID when lots of advertising just stopped. It's recovered to 1.4, not quite back to where it was, but in the grand scheme it has a relatively small effect on the overall group. And then if I move to slide 21, it shows the balance sheet cash flow, not too much to say on the balance sheet. And other things I'll draw out is if you look on the left-hand side, about just over halfway, you'll see we've got cash, cash equivalents in hand of 44.7 million. And four rows beneath that, you see we've got loans and borrowings of 38. The net of those is the 6 million I talked about at the beginning. That 38 million of debt is kind of still a legacy debt from pre-IPO. We're in the process, I think we said at the IPO, we were going to refinance that process. It's now quite mature. So hopefully next time we show these numbers, that position will have changed. On the right hand side, you see cash flow are just a debit dollar 17 million. So to get to the free cash flow number I quoted before, you've got a movement in working capital 1.1 million entirely debt to growth related, which is entirely revenue growth related. We see no deterioration in the DSA that we're achieving or auctioneers paying their bills. And then capex, including capitalized R&D and right of use assets of 1.4 million gives you the 14.5. The exceptional costs, which I've said before, mainly relate to fees on IPO, paid a bit of tax, 2 million. Cash flows from investing activities is the acquisition of auction ability. And then you've got the net of lots of things going on related to the IPO and repaying debt, but give you a positive 50 million overall increase in cash of 30 million, taking the 14 opening balance to 44 at the end of the period. So with that, I will hand back to John-Paul.

speaker
John-Paul Savant
Chief Executive Officer

You should be on slide 23 now. And the key message we want to bring across is that ATG's strategy is working, and we will continue to drive it in the second half of 21. Just a reminder of our vision. The vision is to be the largest global digital marketplace for the buying and selling of all things at auction. And our mission is to lead the evolution of the auction industry as the trusted partner, securely connecting businesses, collectors, consignors, contractors, and consumers. And one of the things that I put that in for is that what does it really mean to lead the evolution of an industry? And for us, we talked about within our management team, and we came up with these key pillars on the bottom on the left. So first of all, when you talk about leading the evolution of an industry, you need to be constantly growing the amount of that industry that you're actually facilitating the sale of. And so for us, again, in terms of progress, we feel very good about that, taking our inventory up by 800 million or 31% to over 3 billion pounds now. The second thing you really need to do to lead the evolution is you need to generate results and you need to have measurable results for both sides. And in this respect, I think, again, we've proven that our strategy is working. So for bidders, the truest measure of a result is that they're finding what they're looking for. And they're choosing to buy it through our site. And that's one element of driving our online share up. Bidders have to actually choose to buy through our marketplaces to buy those things. And as you saw, 13 percentage points of growth to 37% is a real testament to that. on the other side of it is that auctioneers have to choose to actually sell online and to push the online channel whether it be just pushing it as an option in their live sales or by making an even bigger commitment by moving into a timed auction environment and auctioneers only do that if they're generating the asset values that they need to generate to continue to attract the consignors who sell through them. And the fact that we've had such a big shift in our online share, driven by the auctioneer side as well, as they've adopted more timed auctions, is another testament to the fact that we're serving both sides of the marketplace and we're generating results for both. In terms of our operating model, that's another element we believe to leading the evolution because it's important that we stay lean and have the funds to invest. And what was great for us in this period is it showed that we had invested effectively because we were able to grow our GMV by 101% while adding minimal incremental costs, as you saw from Tom. So huge operating leverage and leanness within our model, which shows that part's working. The business intelligence part is a key part that we're investing in. And this is where we're investing in elements such as the recommendation engine within the business. So those are the things, those are one of the tools that allow a bidder who's come online to be presented with an item that people like him or her would have bought similarly. And so that was something we didn't have prior to December and it's something we're gradually implementing into the site. But what it allows us to do is to take all the different information that we have and use it for the benefit of our auctioneer partners so that they can target bidders more effectively with the items, bidders find more things more readily, and then they have a higher chance of bidding on those items and winning them. And then the last thing I wanted to focus on was the people. Because again, from my time at PayPal, when we saw that growth, similar to what HEG is experiencing now, even faster, one of the biggest elements that contributed to that was getting the right people on board in the company. Because when things are moving this fast, you need people who are adaptable, who can throw themselves into the breach wherever anything is happening and that's the type of team that we've been building at atg and we saw that in this period because while we've handled a doubling of the volume i can tell you that was a huge amount of work for our team and they were doing it while learning how to work from home while learning uh how to adjust to auctioneers who had even higher expectations of them and the fact that we were able to generate the results we do and keep the online share that we have while attracting incremental thv is really i think a huge testament to the team that we built at atg as well and so um how is that team guided i thought it was worthwhile to put in on the right hand side here what the values of the company are and so 50 of everyone's review uh each year is based on these values and so it's build trustworthy relationships which is really about doing what you say you're going to do. And so whether that be the relationships we're establishing with you as our investors, with our previous investors in TA and ECI, with our customers, or with our staff internally for how we live and breathe as we execute against our projects, that's a key one for us. Raising the bar is not being complacent with the way that we've done things in the past, but in an industry that's evolving at the pace we are, it's about looking for ways to constantly get better. And that's something we try to really bring out in our team. Leading creatively. I think sometimes the managers on the team say that that's my way of saying do a lot with little. And I guess it is. It's about taking what you have and trying to do more with it, not asking for more budget every time you need to do something. And then the last one, which is my favorite is the collaborate to win. And the key for that there is really sometimes businesses can view collaboration as something about just being nice to one another or helping teammates out when they're working on something. But collaborating to win is really focusing people on making your priorities, adjusting your priorities to ensure that you're focusing on the most important things. And that's about collaboration as well. It may mean telling a colleague that you can't work with them on something because what you need to work on is actually the things that are gonna drive the business forward. And that's one element of it. the second element is really collaborating with our auctioneer partners because as you know we've said repeatedly that we have a shared success model and we do better as the auctioneers do better and that's something that we're very committed to as a business so that collaborate to win is the is the fourth element of our values um if you move to the next slide So as we talked about in the IPO, ATG has multiple growth levers that enable us to sustain this momentum for many years in the future. And I think what has been hopefully apparent from this presentation, from what Tom shared, what I've shared, is that we really are drawing on all of those levers. So extending the TAM by adding new THV from existing auctioneers and moving it to new verticals, Growing our online penetration, that's by more bidders coming onto the system and buying through us, but it's also through the auction format that the auctioneers are choosing. Enhancing our network effect by allowing the cross-listing between Proxibid and BidSpotter and continuing to do that more extensively across the rest of our system. We're also investing in SEO, which allows us to acquire more free traffic onto the site. expanding our operating leverage. So you saw, again, we grew that operating leverage dramatically into the 40s this year. And that's something we're able to do while taking on a huge amount of incremental volume. We've pursued a creative M&A in the form of of auction mobility. And we've also been able to integrate our previous acquisition of Lattissimo into the mix. And finally, while we talk about take rate, keep in mind that as we've said, you should anticipate our pricing at the commission level remains stable because we think it's at the right level. The way that we will be growing this take rate is by adding additional value added services such as payments, delivery, and building out the auction ecosystem. And that's something we're just beginning to explore now. So if you go to the next slide. Our outlook, so where are we headed? The key focus of the business is sustaining the momentum that we have post-COVID. It's something we believe absolutely that we can do. But as Tom and I both have mentioned, the reason that we've exercised a little bit of caution in this back half of the year is that we're lapping really strong results and we want to see how we perform over the course of the summer before changing any expectations beyond that. We've seen gains in all segments, and we expect that to continue with the real progression of online-only auctions. And that's something we've seen particularly in the Proxibid division, as we've emphasized that. And what's been really encouraging to see there at Proxibid is that it's some of the largest auctioneers who are taking on online-only auctions, and they're usually the bellwether auctioneers. of what the medium and smaller auctioneers will do, because if they're able to prove that they can do better off of online only auctions, then the smaller ones should do equally well. Our THV expansion into new TAM and again, representing real upside potential, as Tom talked about, the online share dropping to that 37% is really due to the mix effect. The GMV on a half year over a half year basis is growing and that's the true measure of our success of the strategy. And in fact, this THV growth is just laying the foundation for more revenue for us to capture down the road. In any online marketplace, you often start on the inventory side, getting a certain critical mass of sellers. And then you have the technology that you need to build out to bring the bidders and the sellers together. But one of the key things that also happen the next phase is really about investing in the bidders because ultimately once you have a critical massive inventory and you have the right technology what really keeps your sellers with you is your ability to constantly bring them new bidders and that's a big focus for atg in the next six to 12 months so improving our end-to-end ux investing in the SEO to bring more bidders. And then we've also upgraded our instance of Salesforce Marketing Cloud so that we have better CRM capabilities, triggered emails, relationship emails, etc. And so hopefully what we've left you with the feeling for is that, again, we've talked about the fact that ATG has multiple growth levers to sustain our growth well into the future, and we're executing against all of these. And again, we continue to plan to invest against all of these levers into the future. So if you go to the next slide, slide 26, in terms of current trading, trading for the year to date has been strong. And as a result, we are currently trading ahead of board expectations for fiscal year 21. However, we remain mindful that we have yet to lap the very strong COVID comparators of June, July, and August. And accordingly, our expectations for fiscal year 22 are remaining unchanged. So with that, if you go to the last slide, it's thank you for listening in with us today. And now we're happy to take any questions you may have.

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Conference Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question over the phone, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, that's star one to ask a question. And we'll now take our first question. It comes from Gareth Davis of Numis. Please go ahead.

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Gareth Davis
Analyst, Numis Securities

Yeah, hi, morning, guys. Maybe kick off with a couple from me. Firstly, you talked about THV expansion and alluded to non-traditional areas being about 300 million. I just wondered if you can expand a little bit on what those non-traditional areas are, what the potential is there looking forward. And based on past experience, sort of what's the kind of lag before you'd hope to start getting sort of meaningful amounts of that CHV to GMV? The second one, you talked about no signs yet of INC moving back to physical auction. Can you just talk a little bit about physical auction in the context of have they been able to run them if they've wanted to through May? When did physical auction start to come back and sort of is that really a June phenomenon where you'd expect to get better sort of touch points around that because I suppose when we think about the exhibition industry for instance in the US June was quite crucial in terms of things starting to happen again in a physical environment so it would be good to get your take on that and then final one for me was just you touched on ancillary services at the end I know we've never sort of overplayed that as a driver short term it's a more medium term aspiration should we think of that as purely organic or is there the potential to do small bolt on acquisitions that could accelerate that over time

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John-Paul Savant
Chief Executive Officer

Gareth J. Okay, so Tom maybe i'll take the first gutter them and then and then pass over to you so first of all i'll go i'll take them backwards Gareth and start with ancillary services so. Gareth J. that's something that again you're right it's a midterm aspiration for ours there's huge potential there but it's something where we have lots of other things that are much near term that we think that we need to focus on first. Gareth J. But. payments, delivery, building out that auction ecosystem is very real. And I think there are definitely acquisition opportunities in those areas. We have mapping that we do and we see opportunities to do that. But again, that's more of a midterm thing that we'd be looking at. On the INC side, in terms of what happens with physical auction. So first of all, keep in mind that most the vast, vast majority of our INC business is in the US and the US never actually shut down or banned auction. So they've been running throughout this whole period. And auctioneers moved online and moved to more timed online only. And The key reason for that is keep in mind that when an auctioneer runs a live auction, they have to move all the assets into a single location for heavy industrial items or factories or things like that. This is a huge expense for them. They have to rent a facility, they have to provide security, porters who move items around, they have to have people on the day taking bidder verification, they have to provide food, and then they have to actually call the auction, which is a pretty extensive effort. So when they run an online only auction, all of those costs are reduced or eliminated. And so what we're seeing is that the auctioneers are seeing that because they can achieve the same asset value, which means they're doing their job for the consignors, they actually will then make more money on the auction by moving to an online only auction. So that's why we believe that in the vast majority of cases, the online share driven by the auctioneers choosing online will stay. And so I think that's that. With the THV expansion, the two areas where we've expanded have been into the equine industry and into classic cars. And Tom can talk about this in a minute, but in terms of the lag effect or how that works. But the short answer is that it's hard to tell because we are early into this. And that's why we're exercising caution in the back part of this year and into next year, because we need to see that as the vaccine comes out more generally and the equine industry and classic cars have been moving with us, do they move offline? Do they stay? Do their bidders prefer buying in person or they prefer buying online? online, that's something we need to see. And so in terms of the typical lag, it's quite difficult to say because different industries will respond or different verticals will respond in different ways because the appeal buying in person versus buying online varies by sector. But Tom, do you want to comment on any of that?

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Tom
Chief Financial Officer

To be honest, I could have taken the words exactly out of your mouth for your answer to the last question. It's hard sell because this is so new for us. I mean, I'd add into the mix classic cars and equine. Real estate is up. If you look at some areas which traditional spaces that we played, but not the mix has changed. The Bonhams partnerships come through a full effect and we've got some very high volumes there, but it's higher ticket stuff. So it does have a different set of characteristics to sort of core arts and antiques and international auctioneers as well, particularly in Lettissima. All of those things are changing the mix and the kind of new sorts of THV which are growing at an above average rate. It's hard to say exactly how it's going to pan out. We do have differences of sell-through on a vertical-by-vertical basis in our existing business, so we do extremely well on INC at the moment. Get some of that agriculture and construction a notch below that, but still good. So where these things settle out at, it's difficult to say. john paul says fundamentally there's a lot changing all at the same time um so quite where it settles at it's it's difficult to say it's better to have it now than not to have it but we should also be mindful that there could be some normalization as we go forward um in into into next year on some of the the new thv that we've got through so which is why we're retaining the the caution of our outlook that john paul's mentioned

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John-Paul Savant
Chief Executive Officer

And in those different sectors, if you look at the classic car sector, for instance, the likelihood, I think, of auctioneers moving purely to offline is very unlikely because I think they've been quite surprised at the returns they've been able to get by moving to an online model and how many people bid online. I mean, we know that it's one of the the the key things you know people like many of us on the phone will click on when we see is that if there's a classic car people will click on it it's a it's a high kind of eye candy piece and so they get a lot of attention and even if they end up people end up wanting to go and look at the cars or drive them they may end up going and looking at one or two with a given auctioneer but then saying well yeah no i do want that 1963 ferrari 250 gte but they don't need to buy it from that auctioneer they can then buy it online and have a choice of many different auctioneers who are selling and i think that's my belief as to what's what's gonna going to end up happening so um did we answer your questions gareth yep fantastic thank you very much both

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Operator
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Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. It appears there are no further questions at this time. Mr. Savant, I'd like to hand the call back to you for any additional comments or closing remarks.

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John-Paul Savant
Chief Executive Officer

Okay, well, I guess what I'd like to say is, first of all, thanks to the ATG team, because it really has been a massive team effort over these last six months. And like I said, with Tom and me being focused on the IPO for a big part of that, it really is a testament to the strength of our management team and all the team throughout the ranks that we were able to deliver these results that you've seen today and do all the other things we're doing amidst the pandemic. A big thanks to the team, first of all. Then the second part is just to say, again, we are incredibly excited by what's ahead. Everything has been going well. I think we're really pleased with the way that our post-IPO time has gone. We see that the growth levers that we talked to you about are all very viable and we're executing against all of them. as we look to the future we're very optimistic and as we've said we um are just waiting to see until we get through this summer period before we uh come back and see what our expectations can be for the future but thank you for your time today and we look forward to speaking with many of you over the the next week thank you

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