11/25/2025

speaker
Ben Wilkinson
CEO

Good morning, everybody. Thanks for joining us for Molson Ventures interim results. This is the results for the six months to the end of September. And we'll take you through key movements in the portfolio. We've moved with the trading statement at the end of October and then now giving you the final numbers here. Today, you will be spoken to by myself, CEO Ben Wilkinson, and also our CFO, Andrew Zimmerman, who will take you through the financial highlights. I'll just give us a quick introduction, a reminder to Moulton, and then we'll get into the numbers. So Molten Ventures actually next year celebrating our 20th anniversary as a firm and been listed since 2016. The benefit of that is obviously that we can get to show the model working over time and I think here in these results you'll see the breadth of the portfolio and the demonstration of that vintage creation that's been happening over these many years. 80 plus portfolio companies in the portfolio and when we look at the PLC numbers here today, that's what we'll be talking to, but also we manage EIS and VCT funds alongside. So the capital pool is an important function and driver of our model and how we address the market. On the right hand side you can see the important factors we've targeted 20% annual growth in the portfolio fair value and that's we call that through the cycle because obviously these things tend to be up and down somewhat but actually delivered 26% when you take into account this six months growth. And then in realizations, the important factor is turning that value into cash. And we've delivered 14% versus our 10% target. And again, I think that's a differentiated point from us versus some other firms and something that we've been able to demonstrate through many years. So we'll touch on those returns. In aggregate, 1.1 billion of capital deployed in those years as a public company and returning over 700 million coming back, which is a really strong proof point of our model. A year ago, when I took over as CEO, we refocused our strategic priorities on these key areas, really focusing on our core investment strategy of Series A and Series B investing. Particularly at Series B, this is a part in the market in Europe where there's a gap to capital, somewhere where we have strong experience, and it's where you see the commercial traction in those businesses coming through most strongly, but also requiring investment. the venture capital skills that we can bring to bear to help grow those companies and manage their scaling journey. And so it's capital, but also active management that we bring to bear with these companies. Scaling our own portfolio and developing the co-investment pools of capital further continues to be a key priority for us. We'll touch on the progress in some of those areas, but having the public balance sheet, having the EIS and the VCT funds, and then growing out our third party capital on the private side is a key strategic priority for how we scale and grow within the market. And as part of that, thinking about our fund-to-fund programme, which is the investment into funds at the earlier stage from when we invest directly, we've been going through that programme and looking at a narrower cohort for the next iteration of investment. So the existing programme is largely funded, in good shape, It gives us quarterly reporting on 3,000 underlying companies, which is great for our deal funnel, but just thinking about the uses of our capital when capital is ultimately constrained, we want to put more of that into direct investing and thinking about the shape of our portfolio, how that evolves over time. Balance sheet strengths, we're going to be able to touch on that today. It's clearly getting back to growth is an important factor within that, but also driving the liquidity from realizations. And then thinking around the use of that capital as it comes back. And we always talk to this NAV, accretive use of capital. And importantly, that can be buybacks of our shares when we're trading at big discounts. And we've demonstrated with 50 million committed to buybacks that that's something we're willing to do. We recognise the strength of doing that in terms of buying our portfolio at a discounted value. But also Navicreative in terms of driving investment. A lot of the companies that we're going to talk about today, we invested in those businesses almost eight years ago. And there's growth that's come through over that time and management of those companies that's come through over that time. And that will drive... the growth in the future by the investments that we make now. Another part of our strategy is to invest in secondaries where we can acquire mature assets at discounts to their holding value by providing liquidity to an illiquid part of the market. And giving ourselves and our shareholders access to those growth companies and our known winners, if you like, in other people's portfolios is a very sensible way for us to use our capital. So when we talk about navigative use of capital, we're thinking about it in a holistic way, about what is the best use of that capital depending on the opportunity set. And clearly driving a narrowing of our share price discount to NAV continues to be a focus. Some progress has been made on that, but a lot more to go. You'll see today that the NAV is growing, and therefore the shares have to trade up even further as we drive value in the portfolio. And I will therefore hand over to Andy to take you through our financial highlights and demonstrate some of that growth.

speaker
Andrew Zimmermann
CFO

Great, thank you very much Ben. So I'm Andrew Zimmermann, I'm the CFO at Moulton Ventures. About a year ago I was interim CFO, presented my first set of interim results. So it's nice to be here one year later as actual CFO and we've got a really positive set of financial results to present. So without any further ado, we will get on to that. So very pleased to talk about a 6% GPV uplift to NAV. 135 million of uplifts offset by 49 million of reductions. FX has added another 11 million to that with the GBP Euro being a tailwind, but GBP UST being the slight headwind. Market comps have helped. Sectors like AI and deep tech and hardware have obviously been stronger. That's been offset a bit by consumer and SaaS. Core names like Revolut, people have read the news about yesterday, and ISAI have shown very strong commercial traction. GPV and NAV are both up at 1.4 billion GPV and NAV 1.3 billion. Realisations have been slightly ahead of investments, with some of that cash going to buybacks, again, as Ben referenced, recognising the NAV accretive additive potential of those. Realisations were pleasing at 62 million to the half-year. There was also an additional 23 million from another tranche of... Revolut in October. So 87 million so far year to date that we've done with some other little bits and pieces. Free trade list and Revolut, the two partial Revolut led secondaries are the drivers of that. So being at 87 million already year to date after a very strong FY25 of 135 million is really pleasing to see that momentum continuing. From that cash we We've put 33 into the balance sheet, 33 million. We'll come on to that in a bit more detail in terms of some of the things that we've done. Again, there's been more invested post-period end with about 25 million that's either been invested already or is about to be and will be announced. We've also done 19 million of share buybacks. Again, that is a NAV accretive to our NAV per share. That's added about 14 pence to our NAV per share. And we've just announced another 10 million extension to that, which will take us up to 50 million committed so far. OPEX, we've managed to reduce. We've been really disciplined. We've looked at technology and how we can drive some efficiencies from that. We've been able to therefore reduce our general admin costs from 13.1 to 12.1 year on year or half year on year, which is an 8% reduction. Some reductions in headcount, they are mainly on the operational side so that we can rebalance our investment and really drive that investment quality. So we're at 0.1% operating costs net of fee income, which is well below the 1% target of NAV. So that means we end the half year at a NAV per share of 724 pence, which is 8% up on the year-end position, which is obviously a really strong, great position to be on, and then we'll be looking to build on that. in the coming period. And our balance sheet at the 30th of September had cash of 77 million. We also have cash plus 23 million from that Revolut tranche that came in in October. And we also have funds available in EIS and VCT of about 23 million available for an investment. So we're in a really strong balance sheet position where we've managed to balance the investment with buybacks and cash available going forward. So this is a chart that you'd be used to seeing where we talk about our performance through the cycle. We have a target of 20%. Our average return through the cycle is now 26%. You can see from this chart, obviously there was strong growth with a real peak in FY22. We were quick to take valuations down in FY23. FY24, things started to stabilize a bit. And then in FY25, there's a smaller return to growth. In FY26, that first half, 6% for the half year is obviously a good start and obviously not quite a hockey stick yet, but starting to turn up there in terms of the growth. So we'll be looking to see that continue in H2. I think with sensible marks for our portfolio and tailwinds behind a number of the core companies, there's good signs that that will continue. Everybody has been reading a bit about a bit more activity in IPO markets and M&A. So with our diversified portfolio and our experience managing through the cycle, we're optimistic about this continuing. So the story on realisations is really similar, a similar shape. Our target is 10% through the cycle and we've delivered 14% so far average return. Again, you can see that builds up towards FY22 where it really peaked. Then obviously there's a difficult market in FY23 and FY24, really slowed momentum for realisations. There's a positive return in FY25 where we did work really hard to engineer different realisations for a number of the companies. And that's obviously pleasing to see that continue into FY26 with the 62 million to the half year 30 September and an additional 25 since then. We're obviously still working on other things so we would hope to be able to generate more realisations before the end of the year. And obviously our evergreen model then enables us to recycle that back into future investments which are going to drive the future NAV growth as well as other NAV accretive opportunities like secondaries and buybacks when the discount is wider to the share price. So this is just a slide a little bit about our investment deployment. We've deployed 33 million in the first half of the year. We've done more since then, so the cadence will pick up a bit in the second half of the year. I'll just call out a few deals. Ben will talk a bit more about the portfolio later in the presentation. But in new deals, yep, 6 million in new deals. One example in that is General Index, which is a data-driven energy pricing provider for the commodities market. In the follow-ons, we've done 5 million, which is helping to scale and build our portfolio. For example, the one I'll call out is MANA, which those of you who know me know I like to talk about. I just like drones delivering food. But again, it's a good example of us investing in the ones that are going to be the future drivers of growth in the portfolio. In the secondaries, we did a secondary with Speedinvest. for 16 million in a continuation fund. These give us access to a portfolio of companies that we understand as venture managers that are later in life, so they've got a shorter exit window, and we can get them at a very attractive price. So it's another good option for us in terms of driving NAV. And then finally, we've put six million into our fund-to-funds programme. Obviously, we're trying to manage a tighter cohort going forward, but this helps us to scout the future winners that are going to feed through into the emerging and then the core in due course. We've also recently signed a 12 million Series B with someone in the portfolio company which we can't announce just yet but we'll be working on that so watch this space you should see an announcement of that soon. But that's just a really good reaffirmation example of us backing our portfolio and backing the winners in our portfolio and getting back to more of this focus on Series A and Series B core investments. And then just on the chart here on the right Again, just to call out the shape of it, you can see FY23, just before things started to go south, we deployed a more normal level of capital. FY24 and 25, obviously a bit more capital constrained, but we're now getting back more to a normal investment cadence with targeting somewhere around about 100 million by the end of the year. So this slide just walks us through the fair value movement for the period in the portfolio. So you can see investments and realisations we've talked about. So slightly more realisations than investments, which are a net down in terms of the GPV. FX has worked in our favour. As a pan-European investor, we're obviously going to be exposed to movements in euro and dollar, but that's been a small net benefit for us this period. The real talking point, I think, is the movement in the core. 92 million uplift, and we'll come on to talk about the specific drivers of that with the portfolio plan in due course. But that's like an 11% uplift, which is much more where we want to be and where we feel we should be. So that's really pleasing to see. The fund performance contributed about 7 million. That was offset by about $30 million, a small write-down in the emerging portfolio, which I will actually now just come on to talk about. But overall, a really strong net 6% fair value increase for the first half of the year. So we've had a lot of feedback from people in terms of the emerging. We talk a lot about the core. That's obviously the biggest part of the portfolio by value. But the emerging are what's going to drive the future. So we're trying to talk about this a bit more and shed a bit more insight into it. Then we'll talk about some of the specific companies, which I know people find really interesting and exciting. So that will add a bit more colour. There's 68 companies in this emerging portfolio, so it doesn't lend itself to a big list, but this table gives you a sense of the diversity and range of it across that cohort. So the average age of investment in this is about five years. And the average cost of investment is about 4 billion. So you can see the average is obviously smaller. These are the earlier stage ones. There's obviously a broad range within that. And you can see from this donut here, about three-quarters of them are the smaller sub-5 million positions. So these are the ones... that are still proving themselves out. As they start to scale and grow, and we can spot the emerging winners and we have some conviction, then we can put more capital into them. And so the remaining two sections of the donut are as these companies start to grow and we can follow on and help them grow, we'll put a bit more money into them. And then eventually these companies should grow, keep growing, and some of them will get into the core as the future winners in the portfolio. In terms of the fair value movement in this segment, you can see that actually the majority or nearly the majority had an uplift in terms of the number of companies, a number flat, and then about a third there was a small reduction. Overall, although there were more uplifts in the portfolio, there was a small net reduction. There were two or three sort of larger write-downs just in specific companies in that emerging sector. That meant it was a small net write-down of 13 million. But overall, still positive momentum in that cohort of the portfolio. So this is the fan, which obviously you're familiar with seeing. Again, I would just call out the point that the scales are different, which is why it looks a little odd, but Revolut, because it's so large by fair value, had skewed the scale, so we've split the two halves slightly. The right-hand side are the smaller ones that are growing. The left-hand side are the more mature ones in the core. So just to call out some specific ones where there's been the more significant movements. So SimScale, which is cloud native simulation. It's doing really well in terms of starting to add logos, starting to really grow revenue. It's got good ARR retention. So that one is starting to move up the fan. And obviously we have a strong belief in that one going further. ISAR Aerospace is one You may have seen the rocket launch. It's a German space rocket company, hopefully a European SpaceX. They got their first rocket away off the platform earlier in the year. It blew up, obviously, partway through, but that is expected as part of the development process. So they got all the data that they needed, didn't destroy the launch pad, so they were really happy. And they're already working towards launch two. But that first successful launch in terms of the data collection unlocks a capital for a billion euro valuation. So that one's shown good growth in a half year. Thought machine, although it's not moved that much, I just thought I would call this one out because people are interested in that one. That's obviously core native banking software. You'll maybe remember a year ago we'd actually taken that one down quite significantly as it sort of stalled in terms of the speed of its revenue growth. In the second half of last year we started to write it back up and we've done a little bit again in this first half of the year. The story hasn't really changed. It's a really good business. They're signing tier one banks. They've got a good pipeline of logos. It's just the cycle for that particular line of business. It takes a while to turn it to permanent ARR and longer than they originally perhaps forecast. As they get these books of business live, the ARR will grow again quite lumply, and that speed of revenue growth should start to accelerate again, justifying more of a premium valuation. So we should see that start to pick back up and walk back up as they hit those commercial proof points. ISAI is another one that's had a really strong period. you may have read about it in the press, dual-use technology, synthetic aperture radar satellites, which are just very cool technology, can see through clouds, can see at night. They've just released their latest version of them, which are even more high-definition. You can see things about the size of a laptop from space. Obviously, the shift in defence, particularly for European governments, financing themselves, means they've signed a lot of contracts with different European governments. So they've got really good traction, both in terms of hardware, the actual satellites themselves, but then the software in terms of delivering the images to people. And obviously the comps in that sector have really benefited from that as well. So there's really strong growth in that one. CoachHub is the only one in the core really that we've had to take down much. That one, CoachHub is obviously coaching software for enterprises and it matches coaches with executives. That's had a slightly tougher year. Firms are probably being a bit more mindful of what they spend their money on and things like that can be the first to be paused. It's actually profitable, but the growth is just stalled. So in terms of the valuation, you need revenue to really be growing at a stronger level to justify a higher premium. So as they get back to that growth, we would expect to be able to walk that valuation back up again. But until they hit those commercial traction proof points, we've pulled that one back slightly. Aircall is business communication software, AI, cloud-based, more than 20,000 customers. Really good, solid business. It's profitable. It's doing more than 20% revenue growth year on year, consistently performing. A really good example of a mature company in the portfolio that should be heading towards some kind of exit scenario, whether it's an IPO or a trade sale, as it really matures. Ledger, again, benefiting from really strong tailwinds, crypto and NFTs. It's a hardware wallet and software that goes with it. Really strong revenue growth, really strong performance. Comps are doing well because of the U.S. market being very favorable towards that kind of asset class. So it's been a strong beneficiary of that. And then finally, Revolut. You'll all have seen the news yesterday about their 75 billion round. That obviously came a bit late for us in terms of this performance. So we've held it based on commercial traction and commercial milestones. It's obviously still performing really well. You know, more than 60 million customers. They did 4 billion of revenue last year. Should do something like 6 this year based on the growth rates they talk about. So we've been able to take that up quite considerably but we obviously have a bit of scope to grow further if it's going to grow into that 75 billion valuation. So overall really positive I think for the core portfolio. So I think I would just say just before I hand back and bend, it's a really positive set of numbers. It's pleasing to be up there talking about fair value growth coming back. really driving NAV per share. We've obviously continued to generate that momentum and realisations which allows us to allocate capital to the new future winners of the investment and also to allocate some to buybacks recognising the NAV accretive benefit of being able to do that. So a nice set of numbers to talk about. With that I'll go to Ben who can tell you a bit more about the portfolio.

speaker
Ben Wilkinson
CEO

Thank you, Andy. So as Andy described there, we wanted to give you a bit more of the breadth of the portfolios, at least 10 in the call there that's showing those uplifts. I'm also trying to show a little bit more of a shed of light on the emerging so that you can see the core is driving the growth. There's 888 million of value there, but the emerging, there's almost 500 million of value sat within that. So what we'll do here is take you through some of the drivers of the growth in the core, but also give you a little bit more of an overlay of how the portfolio comes together. you can see here that gross portfolio value that we talk about 1.4 billion core being 888 million of that and then think about the emerging that 256 million in the light blue bar we'll talk to some of the details of that and Andy touched on the fact that the 68 companies sat within there And then there's 293 million sat within fund investments. And if you look to the right-hand side of this chart, you'll see how that splits down. That's splitting down between some secondaries that we've been doing over the last few years. Also SPVs, special purpose vehicles that we've invested in through the years, but also the funder funds. There's 120 million in that seed funder fund program where we're an LP into funds across Europe and there's about... 80 funds across Europe that we're invested into. So small checks going into those funds, but that supports the ecosystem, gives us the data on those companies as they come through to the Series A and Series B stages of investment where we can look to invest in those companies directly. And then finally, with Early Bird, about 80 million sat there as value, which is value that's not sat within the core. There are a few assets like Ivan and ISAR, which are sat in the core, which I'll look through into Early Bird investments. So if we touch on the larger part of the portfolio first, the core companies, their growth is driven by their revenue growth, that commercial traction that then feeds through into fair value growth. And we can see that the margins are very strong in that part of the portfolio as they are through the rest. That really gives an indication of really strong technology businesses with 68% gross margins. Six of those companies being profitable. Also some of those moving to profitability in coming years. So we have about 40, 45% of that core being profitable now as well. companies are well funded and growing strongly you can see here that that growth has continued and touched on some of the assets in particular that Andy's just got taken us through but it's like commercial traction in the underlying businesses that we really look to so where we're taking valuations up or we're taking valuations down it's really underpinned by the growth in the underlying companies one thing in terms of the age of the portfolio is Average age of those companies is 11 years and our average age of the holding that we've had is six years. So it gives you a sense of where we're investing in those businesses on their own journey. It's really where we start to see those commercial proof points, commercial traction selling to customers. increasing that revenue, demonstrating that you can sell to a breadth of different customers, but also increase your value within each of those logos. So upselling to those customers as well. Those are the points of reference that we're looking to when we're first putting our investment tickets into these companies. So the emerging portfolio trying to provide a bit more colour on how that comes together. On the left hand side we've got the capital deployed. Obviously now we've been deploying for nine years, over a billion deployed. A lot of that's gone into the core and that's driving strong returns. But then a lot of that has also gone into the emerging. And you can see here that's been invested over a period of 2017 right through to now with the majority invested up to 2021. so you can see on the left hand side that there's a real balance of that vintage creation within the within the emerging it's not just focused on any one vintage and i think that portfolio construction point comes across strongly when you look at that left hand side of the chart average holding is about nine percent equity which is in line with our nine to eleven percent probably average across the portfolio which is also really where we start to think around 10 to 15% of initial equity. Sometimes that gets diluted down. So that's all in line with our original investment thesis. And talking to scale, you can see on the right hand side here, how much of that is split by revenue. So the blue, the 44%, that's 10 million plus of revenue. So it demonstrates a degree of maturity of those underlying companies. Some of them are pre-revenue, particularly where they're in the DTEX parts of the market where revenue might come later than the traction in the technology. But also you can see that some of those are earlier stage businesses, 1 to 5 million of revenue or 5 to 10 as they start to scale through that journey. And our job is to portfolio manage. Some of those will not scale and grow and we'll reduce them down in our holding value or sell them on. Some of them will scale and grow into the core. And we'll be talking in a couple of weeks about one of the investments that we've made in one of our existing companies, a Series B investment where we've led the round in that company preemptively that's where we start to see that commercial traction coming through and we want to put more of our shareholder capital to work in that business and then those companies can become the core companies that drive the growth going forward So I wanted to talk for the next few slides about some of the specifics. We're touching on four of the core portfolio companies and we'll also touch on a little bit of the emerging as well to give you a flavour of those underlying businesses. Revolut, we've talked a little bit about here and it's obviously very strongly in the press. I think the only comment I'd like to add in addition to what Andy said here is this is a business that was founded 10 years ago, now has over 65 million customers, was a company that was scaled in the UK and then and then grown into other markets and it is now getting licenses in South America Mexico and Colombia as an example and it's just driving growth globally so this is a really good example of a success case in Europe that we need to celebrate and then we need to make sure that the capital that goes into these companies to enable that success is there for these businesses that have the ambitions and have global scale and And we're talking about productivity earlier today in some of my conversations. We need to drive more productivity growth. And these are the types of businesses that really allow that to happen. If you look back and think about when you had to go into your bank at least once a week to process checks or to go and deal with anything that was required an over-the-counter service. Or when you travelled and maybe you had to have traveller's cheques, for example, at certain stages of that journey. Think about how seamless your banking is now relative to how it was perhaps even just 10, 15 years ago. And this is the productivity that's been driven through all of the companies in our portfolio. And it's been driven by this part of the ecosystem that drives job creation and innovation. In a similar theme, ISAI, we invested in that business in 2018 into 2019. So they have now 50 satellites up in low Earth orbit. And those satellites, as Andy touched on, can take images of the Earth, giving a range of 400 kilometers from single pictures down to the laptop scale of granularity. And that allows security to be a factor in a use case, but it also allows use cases in climate change. So thinking around forest fires, thinking about flooding and the impacts of that on the insurance part of the business, that drives a massive efficiency looking at areas that are affected or impacted by that. And our use of space is going to drive a lot more productivity in our daily lives. It already drives productivity with things like GPS, but clearly that's becoming an important driver of growth going forward. And this company is performing very strongly. Another business that's quietly under the radar for several years while we've invested into those companies. And then they start to emerge as growth companies and drivers in our portfolio. And then in the last year, as security and defense becomes more of a theme and sovereignty around assets becomes more of a theme, you can see that these companies are getting much more focus in the press. A similar business that Andy touched on is ISAR Aerospace. It's definitely worth watching the launch. 30 seconds into the air was important. There's over 100,000 components coming together in a single rocket. That's the first test of that rocket. And so demonstrating that it can get off the launch pad, demonstrating that they can safely bring that rocket down as per the plans, but also taking all the data into their next launch. This is a business that's exciting to watch and hopefully in the next few months we'll be able to give you a bit more of an overview of that next launch happening, and we can all watch that one. And then Ledger, Andy touched on Ledger, cryptocurrency, Hardware, security layers, security in anything, clearly very important. Even more important, as we've seen all of the cryptocurrency marketplaces have their own ups and downs over the years. A lot of people are recognizing you have to have it stored on a ledger device. That's the most prominent device, hardware wallet for crypto and blockchain applications. And there's about 20% of the cryptocurrency market stored on ledger devices. So it gives you a sense of their scale and what they've been building. Very strong tailwinds now for crypto and blockchain, particularly out of the US, and as this institutionalises as an ecosystem and ledges at the forefront of that with their hardware devices and the software that they can drive to allow trading. And then some of our emerging companies, equally exciting, the ones that we'll be talking about in a lot more detail in the coming years. B0 is a carbon market. It's verifying offset projects and creating a pricing market for carbon. This is a business we invested in in 2022 in the financial year and is growing strongly and undertook its Series C funding round, total funding of over 100 million. And again, this is a business that's driving a new part of the ecosystem, a new part of the markets that doesn't currently exist and hopefully becomes ubiquitous and something that we just take for granted in the next few years. If I look at that productivity theme, Disifex, which is focusing on workflows and AI-driven support for pathology, that's a part of the ecosystem where we're investing a lot of capital into the NHS and investing a lot of capital into health. But a lot of that capital needs to go into the productivity tools that drive efficiencies. Public sector efficiency has reduced over the last few years, not increased. And these are the tools that allow that to happen. In a similar way to the space theme, we have satellite view, another company in the portfolio, which is looking at thermal imaging of buildings. And so low Earth orbit satellites go up, images of those buildings, looking at the heat signatures, looking at efficiency of buildings, looking at security aspects that go alongside that. And this is a company that has a really strong order book behind it already. And then finally, Andy's favorite company, MANA, delivering It's interesting when you think around If you stand in London and you talk to people about drone delivery, it's a pipeline dream. In Dublin, that's already happening. There's hundreds of thousands of deliveries that have been occurring already, over 200,000. And MANA, as it expands, will go into 11 sites across Dublin, but will also be expanding to Finland, into the Middle East. It's a company that's born in Europe, that's scaled in Europe, that is already ahead of many of the big players that we would assume would be at the advanced stages of this. So MANA is a very exciting company that we'll be hearing more about this year. give you a sense across the board of the excitement that comes through our portfolio. But one important factor within our portfolio is how we think about driving growth. Direct investing, clearly the heartbeat of what we do, and fund-to-fund investing, as we've touched on, helps to drive the ecosystem. But another important part of our platform is driving growth through secondaries. I just wanted to touch on that for a moment because... Sometimes when we invest in secondaries, people are trying to understand, well, why are you investing in other people's portfolios? But if you think about the journey of scaling technology businesses, they often scale in years 10 to 15 of their life. You can see in our core the average age of 11 years. And then if you reflect on the average time horizon for a private structure is a 10-year fund. And so those technology businesses that are the winning companies in those funds are scaling and maturing at the very latest years of those funds where the managers of those assets need to show realizations and drive returns. So we provide a liquidity solution to those managers that allows them to give money back to their investors, that allows those investors in turn to put new capital commitments into the managers' new funds. So you're unlocking a part of the ecosystem which is clogged up. For us, the benefit is clearly investing in scaled, mature assets. And we've demonstrated with our track record here that we can drive returns averaging 2.4x multiple. A lot of that has been realized in a short period of time. and it's really a way for us to create additional value for our shareholders by being active in the market and using our network and using our relationships and using our ability to value technology businesses and being very fundamental about the value of those companies and drives additional value to the direct investing that we have in the portfolio. So delivering returns in excess of 200 million on our secondary strategy It's not something we do every year. It's something that we do when we feel there's pockets of value and discounts that we can take advantage of. So then finally, how does that drive to returns across our entire portfolio? over 700 million of realizations over the nine years and thinking about venture capital as an asset class it the returns are skewed to the winners you have to run your winners and in turn the management skill of a venture capitalist is managing an entire portfolio and ensuring that you can drive returns from the rest of the portfolio as well and you can see here that we've had over 5x plus returns which have driven the majority of the value that's the pure power law playbook of venture capital. And those are the companies that we'll naturally talk about a lot. But also driving returns coming from more modest multiples in the 1 to 3x ranges. That's an important part of what we do. And I think that's been very differentiated at Moulton in terms of how we think about the portfolio and consistently driving those returns coming back through. And even in the scenarios where we might not be making positive returns, we get less than one times our capital back, we are in the risk business. We should be taking risks. We should be investing in companies that have great potential, but clearly not all of those companies will make it to be the key returners. And therefore, trying to drive some returns of capital back is an important part of that portfolio management as well. So finally, as we look to wrap up, I'll just give a sense of the current market environment that we're investing into. Left hand side, you can see Europe has been scaling as an ecosystem up until 21. A lot of capital put to work in that period, but has really settled to a level of around 60 to 70 billion a year being deployed. If you compare that with the right hand side, though, we're seeing a lower number of companies being funded. and that deal count coming down has shown that the capital has been going into companies where there are perceived winners, particularly around AI, and therefore there are companies that can raise substantial pools of capital, substantial amounts of capital, but that's not growing across the whole of the ecosystem. The area where we invest will be in the 5 million up to 20 million sort of range. So if you think about that in the context of these charts, that's the dark blue lines on the left-hand side going into the lighter pink lines. that's had a reasonable amount of consistency in terms of the capital that's been deployed there but there's still a gap to capital and one of the things we'd like to do is drive more capital coming from pension funds coming from our own institutions to support this part of the ecosystem where the opportunity set is is fantastic the innovation that's occurring in europe is very strong The opportunity to invest in generational shifts in technology is here right now. And these are technologies that are going to be profoundly changing our societies and how we work and the productivity that occurs over the next 20 years. This is the time to put capital to work. And we're the vehicle to do that through. We've demonstrated that over many years. So finishing up before we move to questions, just to reiterate the priorities that we started out with at the outset of this presentation, how are we performing against those? So core investing in Series A and Series B, we've demonstrated that we've invested $33 million in this first half of the year. We've also continued with our secondary strategy and then post the period end, another $20 million has been invested. The company that we've been indicating as a Series B investment exactly in line with our strategy of supporting our best companies, helping them scale and grow, and we'll be announcing that in the next couple of weeks. Co-investment capital touched on as an important feature, bringing more capital into the ecosystem. We have Molten East, which is focused on Eastern Europe and the technologies and the entrepreneurs and the engineering ecosystem that exists there. That is a fund that we'll look to close in the next calendar year. Some good progress being made there, and that will demonstrate additional capital coming into the ecosystem that we will manage. Narrow fund-to-fund commitment, focusing that capital back to our direct investing and secondaries. We've been speaking to all of the managers in that ecosystem, supporting the ones that we're already an LP into, but also being clear that we'll put the capital into a narrower cohort of managers going forward. And then balance sheet strength, Andy's touched on this in some detail, continued realisations and continuing to redeploy that capital into those NAV accretive areas. And finally, narrowing that gap to our discount in the share price. So NAV 724 pence a share, shares clearly trading at a discount to that. So the buybacks have been an important feature of the model over the last year. And I think that flexibility we demonstrated of allocating capital that comes back into new investments, into secondaries, and into buybacks has been a core pillar of the last year or 18 months that has been a way of us driving value. So looking ahead, extremely positive. Strong portfolio. Very good growth coming through the portfolio. strong balance sheet, capital pools expanding, and then the performance coming through in the NAV accretion as well. So we're very happy to be up here and to demonstrate all of those pillars of our strategy and our platform and seeing those coming through the numbers. So I think with that, we will say thank you and go to questions.

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Will Larwood
Analyst at Berenberg

Thanks. Will Larwood from Berenberg. Firstly, I was just wondering if you could give us a flavour of how valuations are changing across, you know, from Series A, Series D, and then sort of more towards some of the later stage businesses. And then secondly, if we think about, you know, future capital deployment, how should we think about sort of secondaries primaries buybacks i noticed that you've got 39 million committed or potentially going to be invested in in your forecast for this rest of this financial year so yeah just a bit of a sense around that for this year but also into the next couple of years as well thank you will um so taking them in order valuations

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Ben Wilkinson
CEO

The stage we're focusing on is A and B. At that stage, you will see, let's take series A, you'll see commercial attractions, maybe a couple of million of revenue. And then what you're focusing on at that stage is how much money the companies are raising, trying to make sure that's balanced between what they need to raise versus what they'd like to raise. And what I mean by that is if they're raising 10 because that unlocks the next level of proof points for them, that's usually a better thing for them to do versus raising 30 and having excess cash. And so the valuation is a function of how much they raise versus the dilution. So getting that balance of the size of the raise is important. but also being able to demonstrate to new investments that we're an investment house that can follow on in our capital. If you keep proving your growth, if you keep proving your commercial traction, we'll put more money to work. And that's when you start thinking about Series B investing. the tickets are going to be deeper so you're thinking 20 million type tickets as an average and then again it's a function of dilution but by that stage you should be seeing five ten plus million of revenue so it starts to become a function of multiples alongside As you get to later stages, the commercial proof points come through and therefore you're really valuing those businesses more on financials and pure financials and there's more capital available at those stages. So you'll often see higher, larger raises, but also more availability of capital. So when I talk about gaps to capital and why we play in a part of the ecosystem which is very important, it's because you need people with deep pockets that can write consistently 20 million investment checks plus, but also have the venture skills to balance risk and growth and help those companies with active management. So that's why I think the part of the market that we invest into is quite important, but also something that we do which is a unique point of reference. In terms of how we deploy capital going forward, we think about 100 million is where we'll end up this year. 95 to 100 is what we're budgeting. We clearly want to put more capital into those Series B deals we've been talking about, supporting those later A deals as well. And then secondaries are still an important feature. I think that's a great way of us balancing the portfolio. We've got this core, which is maturing. We think that those will turn to realisations in the next, call it two to four years. You'll see a lot of that value coming back through to our portfolio. And our job then is to be navigative allocators of that capital. So we want to put it into direct investing. We want to put it at the Series B stage, which is where we feel is that right balance of commercial traction, risk and upside. But also we want to be putting that into buybacks if we're trading at these discounts. So that's the way we'll think about it. Getting back to a level of 100, 150 million of deployment might be, where we'll end up, but what we will be doing is balancing our capital deployment with other pools. So if we have third-party capital coming alongside the public balance sheet, that means that we can more consistently write those bigger tickets at Series B, and that's the way we're thinking about the strategy going forward.

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Will Larwood
Analyst at Berenberg

sorry, just the Series A and Series B valuations, how have they changed versus sort of 12 months ago or 18 months ago?

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Ben Wilkinson
CEO

It really depends on the type of business, honestly. If it's got an AI wrapper around it, clearly those companies have been getting elevated valuations. And if it's a more normal, let's say, business that we like to invest in, clearly companies that are driving productivity, innovation, they are infrastructure layers into certain themes, then I think they've been fairly stable, actually. You've seen a real degree of consistency. When I showed you the European market and the movements we've seen in the market in terms of capital, a lot of the capital that's going to a fewer number of companies has been going to the AI ecosystem. Clearly, early stages in terms of the large language model levels, that's really intensive capital area. That's not somewhere that we've been looking to play. We're more interested in those application layers, thinking around how do enterprises use the underlying technology? How does it drive productivity? How do you get more customers wanting to buy it? That's where we think about technology.

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Patrick O'Donnell
Investor

Thanks. Patrick O'Donnell here. Good buddy. A couple of questions. So just on the secondaries, in terms of sort of what you alluded to, it's a near-term realisation. Anything you could give us, whether it's relating to Connect and some of the key assets there, or anything, any developments strategically or commercially in some of the kind of secondary funds?

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Ben Wilkinson
CEO

Yeah, when we invest in secondaries, we're pinpointing key assets that are our maturity profile that we can then map that out and look to get our target returns. In terms of the Connect Ventures deal, that gave us exposure to Typeform and to Soldo, two very good businesses, also already levels of maturity that suggest within a three-year time frame, which is roughly the average we've seen in secondaries, you might see those turn into liquidity. So that's the way we think about it. Not necessarily, right, we've invested, now go and sell the asset. It's more about it's within their maturity window. Sell it at the right time to create the right value. And those companies are on that journey. But they're also scaling their own businesses. They're at a stage where scaling that and continuing to grow might be the best option. And, you know, we're going to get the benefit of that fair value growth that goes with it. So I don't want to paint it as a picture of we're invested now, this is your time, you're on a clock. It's just about value creation, and value creation from growth is just as good as value creation from realisations. In the most recent Speed Invest deal, again, we've got companies that we haven't been able to be specific about them, but there's at least five assets there. One key asset in particular that we're excited about that hopefully we'll be able to talk to you about a bit more next year.

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Patrick O'Donnell
Investor

Very good. And just on the sort of valuation, anything you could point to sort of since you've bought, say, the Connect Venture assets, anything moving in the right direction or whether it's some of the key assets

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Ben Wilkinson
CEO

uplifts in in the secondaries when we bought them we've acquired them at discounts more often than not because you're providing liquidity to a part of the market where you the lps who are the investors in those funds can choose to stay in and ride the upside but they might be in for a time period when they've already been in those companies for 10 years in those funds rather for 10 years that they would feel actually taking some cash off the table now is more appropriate So we can usually acquire at discounts, and then with the commercial traction of those businesses, they continue to grow, then we can write those up. And you've seen, I think on the last slide that I showed you, that the multiples of capital on those most recent investments are in the positive territory.

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Patrick O'Donnell
Investor

Just maybe one last one. In terms of the operating costs that you've flagged the reduction over the last six months in general admin expenses, would you expect a similar pattern of costs between H1 and H2 on that? Is the H1 number broadly a 50-50 split?

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Andrew Zimmermann
CFO

It should be. We're continuing to work on efficiencies and managing our operating cost base, both in terms of third-party costs, administrative fees, technology, and leveraging the maximum from those, and also with our headcount. So we've obviously reduced our operational headcount slightly by being a bit more efficient. but maintaining that investment in the investment team so that we have that quality, high barge quality with the investment team to keep growing that in the portfolio. But we'll be very on top of the costs going forward because we're obviously mindful of that and how that benefits shareholders.

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Patrick O'Donnell
Investor

Very last one, just on the sort of core portfolio. You obviously have very mature assets now. You pointed at two to four year exit timeframe on Revolut. I'm actually a bit surprised at the length of it. Anything you can kind of give us on that or any nearer terms, sort of, you know, which ones you'd point to as sort of from an exit point of view that have the sort of shortest timeframe within the core?

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Ben Wilkinson
CEO

Yeah, we're always quite careful to talk about our targets through the cycle because things tend to be lumpy naturally. When we talk about exits, we want to talk them within a timeframe because it's ultimately what's right for the business. If you're going down an IPO path, as you know, that's a minimum 18 months project. And then if you're going through an M&A process, that can happen at any time on your journey. And it's then about working out what's right for the company and for the returns profile. So we always talk about them in broader terms because we're not in control of exactly when these things happen. If I look at the shape of the core, though. You have companies like Revolut that have a stated IPO target. I think in the press most recently they were talking about that within two years or at least two years. So that might be the horizon. For us, if the business continues to grow at 70%, 50%, let's say, uplifts, then the reality is we're going to create value by holding on to our position and just managing that as a portfolio position as we see pockets of liquidity taking some off the table. We think that that's the right balance. Companies like iSci clearly scaling to a maturity, supporting parts of the ecosystem where naturally you think that might be a public company. It certainly has a profile of a company that would perform well. And then things like Thought Machine have talked about potentially going public at some stage on their journey also. What is true though is that 85% of our returns have come through trade sales. So this is often an arbitrage of larger businesses acquiring great technology companies and then putting that technology into their existing customer channel. That's the arbitrage that often exists and we'll see many instances of that as well. So I think the maturity of the core companies, the breadth of the technologies that they're addressing and the markets they're addressing really lends itself to us seeing a lot more coming through in the coming years.

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James Lockie
Analyst at Peel Hunt

Thank you. Maybe just as James Lockie from Peel Hunt, maybe just a follow-up to the last question about exits, not specifically timing, but given that you were able to exit some of the revolutions which allowed you to demonstrate liquidity for your trophies, are there others out there that you have the ability to do that? Because obviously as they grow, and those core are the ones that are going to grow most, presumably, that risk in terms of proportion of your business gets larger. Is there a... is only thoughts around going, well, as they get to a certain size, we'll think about trimming if we can, because then it reduces our lingering over exposure sort of threat perception, let's say. And secondly, you seem to allude that your particular AI exposure isn't so much the bubble perception around there. You said your evaluation has been relatively steady. Is it fair to say that if there was an AI bubble burst, the assets you've got are less exposed to that? And how are you valuing the AI adjacent companies such as General Index, Polymodels and Diceifex in that context? Thanks.

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Ben Wilkinson
CEO

I thought you were going to ask me another one then. I was going to forget them. I can, but... You always have a list. Thanks, James. Let's start with the Revolut position and thinking about the shape of the portfolio more generally. We look to take value off the table, thinking around returning costs, thinking around opportunities for balancing each of the investments. So I think we've demonstrated that clearly with Revolut, where it becomes a more significant asset. It's still growing strongly commercially as a business, very, very positive. But for us, it becomes a moment of thinking around what's the shape of the portfolio? What's the time horizon over the next few years? And we would take a bit of liquidity on the journey has been our strategy. And we'll do that with other companies as well. Quite often with funding rounds, there's an opportunity to take some liquidity and we'll take some of that off the table. But what we'll also want to do is balance that with the commercial traction and the upside. So we'll always think around this point about now the creative use of capital. If we're going to recycle capital, we want to put it to work into assets that are growing faster than the company we're already in. And some of it is balancing because you don't want the luxury problem of risk, if you like, in the way you've described it. I think it's certainly a luxury problem, but you don't want too much of your eggs in one basket. And therefore, the balance of the portfolio is the way we will think about that. I think we've demonstrated that we've been sensible about taking liquidity at the right times, balancing with riding the upside and also balancing with reinvesting into new opportunities. In terms of the AI assets, the companies that we're investing in fundamentally are driving business by being efficient, if you like, for the customers that they're selling to. So think about a general index, that's driving an efficiency in a market by using technology that makes it quicker and cheaper to get the data that people like Bloomberg and ICE ultimately need for their commodity prices. That doesn't go away if there's an AI bubble burst. It's about ultimately, fundamentally, what's that technology used for? That's what we care about. And then the pricing of those deals, I would say, has very much been in line with the market. I don't feel like there's been a sense where we've had to massively overpay. And you say, okay, well, why would that be? It's because we build relationships with those teams. We build a trust that we understand their companies and we understand their markets. and we can help them grow and scale, their chance of success in those businesses is higher with our capital and our support than if they didn't have that. That's ultimately the way that we will try and create value.

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James Lockie
Analyst at Peel Hunt

If I may ask a third question. Just on the 6%, on that basis specifically, on that 6% fair value growth, how much of that was financial upgrades versus multiple re-ratings, as a sort of split?

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Andrew Zimmermann
CFO

Andy, do you want to talk about that? It's a mix, actually, because comps have helped in certain sectors, so obviously things like iSight, that's obviously been beneficial. They've probably not helped in some sectors like SaaS and cloud, and CoachHub is a good example, I guess, where that revenue proof point has fallen away a bit, so we've had to reduce the premium for that value. But other ones have had very strong commercial traction as well as the benefit of the Tailwinds ledger being a good example as well as Revoluted.

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Ben Wilkinson
CEO

I think that brings us to the end of the questions and we're about time so thank you everybody. It was a slightly longer presentation but we really wanted to get into a bit more of the depth of the portfolio so hopefully those slides are very useful. There is also appendices to the presentation, which we won't take you through now, but there's some more interesting information to look at in there as well. So it just leaves me to say thank you to everybody. I'm very pleased to have a positive set of results, and thank you for your attention.

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