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spk01: Good morning and welcome to the ENAX Third Quarter Earnings Call. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker, Daniel Cole, Vice President of Investor Relations. You may now begin.
spk03: Thank you and good morning. Welcome to our Third Quarter Earnings Call. Joining me today are Rohit Gupta, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Dean Mitchell, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. Rohit will provide an overview of our business, our performance, and progress against our strategy. Dean will then discuss the details of our third quarter results before turning the call back to Rohit for closing remarks. After prepared remarks, we will take your questions. The earnings materials we issued after market closed yesterday contain and act financial results for the third quarter of 2022. and a comprehensive set of financial and operational metrics are available on the investor relations section of the company's website at www.ir.enactmi.com under the section marked quarterly results. Today's call is being recorded and will include the use of forward-looking statements. These statements are based on current assumptions, estimates, expectations, and projections of as of today's date that are subject to risks and uncertainties, which may cause actual results to be materially different. We undertake no obligation to update or revise any such statements as a result of new information. For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, please review the cautionary language regarding forward-looking statements in today's press release as well as in our filings with the SEC, which are available on our website. Also, please keep in mind the earnings materials and management's prepared remarks today include certain non-GAAP measures. Reconciliations of these measures to the most relevant GAAP metrics can be found in the press release, our earnings presentation, and our upcoming SEC filing on our website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Rohit.
spk06: Thank you, Daniel. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. This was another solid quarter of performance for Enact, driven by continued execution of our cycle-tested growth and risk management strategy and reserve release from cure activity. Net income increased 40% year-over-year to $191 million, or $1.17 per diluted share, and return on equity was approximately 19%. Our strong performance year-to-date has allowed us to continue delivering on our capital return commitments And yesterday, we announced our second special cash dividend and our first share repurchase program, both of which I will expand on in a few moments. As always, I would like to thank our team for their dedication and hard work as we continue to successfully operate through a complex environment. Insurance and force for the quarter was a record $242 billion driven by increased persistency, which reached 82% for the third quarter and new insurance written of $15 billion. While the rise in interest rates has dampened mortgage origination volumes, it has increased persistency, which has been a tailwind for our insurance and force. We have spoken about this natural hedge in our business in the past. Persistency tends to increase when interest rates rise as older mortgages with lower interest rates become economically favorable for consumers over those currently being offered. This counterbalancing dynamic supports F growth even in an environment in which origination volume is slower. As of the end of third quarter, 99% of the mortgages in our portfolio have rates at least 50 basis points below current market rates. a slight increase from 98% at the end of the second quarter, and we expect this dynamic to continue to benefit persistency going forward. A key aspect of our growth and risk management strategy is our commitment to pursue high-quality business priced to maximize our returns on a risk-adjusted basis. With increasing economic uncertainty, Industry pricing trended upwards during the quarter and we implemented selective increases to adjust our pricing to reflect our view of the risk attributes of certain segments and geographies. In fact, we have continued these actions into the fourth quarter. Overall, we remain confident in our ability to write new business that delivers attractive risk-adjusted returns and creates value for our shareholders. The credit quality of our portfolio continues to be strong. And while there have been some signs of slowing in the broader housing market, the environment remains favorable for our business. On an insurance-enforced basis, the weighted average FICO score in our portfolio during the quarter was 743. The average loan-to-value ratio was 93%, and our layered risk was 1.4% of our risk-enforced. Employment remains solid. Household balance sheets are healthy, and home price appreciation has resulted in 77% of our policies having realized mark-to-market equity of at least 20% at the end of third quarter. Even as home prices have weakened in certain geographies, the accumulation of embedded equity in our portfolio remains historically high and will act as a mitigant against future claims risk. Our delinquency rate in the third quarter continued to approach pre-pandemic levels as cures again outpaced new delinquencies. Given our approach to risk management and loss mitigation, ever-to-date home price appreciation, and the favorable resolution of long-term forbearance plans, we released an additional $80 million of reserves on a net basis in the third quarter, leading to a loss ratio of negative 17%. We continue to operate from a position of financial strength. Securing additional reinsurance coverage is an important part of our strategy that enhances our capital efficiency and ability to distribute and minimize credit risk. During the quarter, we completed our third excess of loss reinsurance transaction this year at attractive terms, further demonstrating our success in accessing capital and reinsurance markets. We ended the third quarter with a PMR sufficiency ratio of 174% or $2.2 billion of sufficiency. In addition, as Jenworth announced, it believes it has satisfied the GSE conditions in the third quarter and expects to comply at year end. If this occurs, the GSE restrictions will be lifted, providing an act additional financial flexibility, especially should future stress emerge. Dean will discuss this notable milestone in more detail shortly. I'd like to take a minute now to talk about our approach to capital allocation. As I've discussed before, our capital priorities are to support our existing policyholders, grow our current business, invest in attractive new business opportunities, and return capital to shareholders. We remain committed to prudently investing in the business and expanding and ask competitive differentiation. We are focused on enhancing our capabilities in data analytics, machine learning, pricing efficiency, and risk monitoring to ensure we are creating a differentiated market leader well-positioned for success and continue to evaluate and pursue attractive new business opportunities to increase shareholder value while also building a resilient portfolio and balance sheet. Additionally, during the quarter, we announced the appointment of Neenu Kanth as our first Chief Customer Experience Officer. I look forward to working with Nenu to ensure we continue meeting the unique needs of our customers. We remain focused on serving our lending partners while providing a best-in-class customer experience to support affordable and sustainable homeownership. One of the key aspects of our strategy has been our commitment to returning capital to our shareholders, and we have consistently delivered since our IPO just over a year ago. In the fourth quarter of 2021, we paid a special cash dividend of $200 million, or $1.23 per share. In the second quarter of 2022, we announced the initiation of our regular quarterly dividend of 14 cents per share. And yesterday, we announced our next milestones, the board's approval of a special cash dividend of $183 million, or $1.12 per share, and the authorization of a $75 million share repurchase program. The share repurchase program will return additional capital to our shareholders by enact buying back shares at valuations we believe are attractive relative to our long-term potential in a manner that is opportunistic and tailored to the size of our float. As part of the repurchase program, we have entered into an agreement with Genworth through which Genworth has agreed to participate by selling shares to enact on a basis proportional to its ownership. Our press release yesterday provides additional details on the repurchase program. We committed to returning $250 million of capital to shareholders in 2022 and will deliver on this commitment based on the ordinary and special dividends we will pay this year. And while we expect much of our share repurchase activity to occur in 2023, any repurchases done this year will deliver capital return in excess of our $250 million target. These actions not only reflect our commitment to our capital allocation goals, but also the strength of our balance sheet, the sustainability of our cash flows, and the confidence we have in our business. I'll close by making a few comments on the macro environment, the housing market, and an act's position moving forward. Several complex and interlinked factors, including the rapid increase in interest rates, persistent inflation, and economic uncertainty are driving volatility and have contributed to a slowdown in the market in the near term as homebuyers assess their options in a rapidly changing housing environment. However, we believe that healthy credit environment and strong underlying demand for housing will continue to act as a counterbalance over the longer term. Currently, the labor market is strong, household balance sheets are healthy, and there has been a meaningful buildup in homeowners' equity through ever-to-date home price appreciation, all factors which are mitigants to risk in our current insurance and force. Of course, the team continuously plans for all scenarios, and we have taken important steps to enhance our resiliency and ensure we are well positioned for today and the future. As we look ahead to the books we are writing now, we are continually evolving our pricing to ensure we optimize our risk-adjusted economics. In addition to significantly enhancing the credit profile of our portfolio, we have further mitigated risk through our CRT program. These actions have enhanced our balance sheet strength and financial flexibility as reflected in our PMIRS sufficiency. The benefits of the actions we have taken are evident in our performance through the pandemic and will continue going forward. Importantly, the co-drivers of demand remain in place. Long-term demand for housing remains fundamentally strong, as key demographic trends suggest first-time homebuyers will continue to provide a tailwind as they reach peak age for home buying. And while home prices and inventory levels have shifted in some markets, housing inventories overall remain at low levels, providing an offset to the reduction in demand we have seen from higher rates and affordability pressure. We are pleased with the performance we have delivered this year, and as we enter the fourth quarter, we remain confident in our business. With a more resilient portfolio, a strong balance sheet, and significant credit risk protection, we are well positioned for both the near and long term. I'll now turn it over to Dean.
spk04: Thanks, Rohit. Good morning, everyone. We delivered another solid quarter of performance in the third quarter of 2022. Gap net income was $191 million, or $1.17 for diluted share, up from $0.84 per diluted share in the same period last year and $1.25 per diluted share in the second quarter of 2022. Adjusted operating income was also $191 million, or $1.17 per diluted share, as compared to $0.84 per diluted share in the same period last year and $1.26 per diluted share in the second quarter of 2022. Adjusted operating return on equity was approximately 19%. Turning to key revenue drivers, new insurance written was $15 billion in the third quarter compared to $17 billion in the second quarter and $24 billion in the third quarter of 2021. The decline in NIW was driven by lower mortgage originations resulting from the recent increase in interest rates. The overall credit risk profile of our new insurance written remains strong with loans that are underwritten to prudent market standards. New insurance written for purchase transactions made up 97% of our total NIW in the quarter, up from 96% last quarter. In addition, monthly payment policies made up 94% of our quarterly new insurance written, up from 93% last quarter. Rohit discussed the natural hedge that persistency provides in our business model. With rising interest rates, persistency increased again during the third quarter to 82%, up from 80% last quarter, and 65% in the third quarter of 2021. Persistency rose during the quarter and reached 84% annualized in September. Given the continued rise in interest rates throughout the third quarter, we expect to see continued improvement in quarter-over-quarter persistency in the fourth quarter, which is a positive for the embedded value of our insurance-enforced portfolio, of which 87% is comprised of monthly policies. Insurance and force increased 9% for the third quarter of 2021 and 2% sequentially to a new record of $242 billion, driven by the combination of new insurance written and increased persistency during the period. As reflected on page 11 of our earnings presentation, our base premium rate of 41.7 basis points was down 0.7 basis points sequentially and down 2.9 basis points year over year. As we've noted before, changes to base premium rate are impacted by a variety of factors and can deviate quarter to quarter. Given the current trajectory, we now expect to be favorable against our original guidance of a four basis points decline in base premium rate for the full year 2022. In addition to changes in base premium rate, our net earned premium rate also reflected lower single premium cancellations sequentially and year over year. Over the past several quarters, our net earned premium rate has been the highest in the industry, driven partially by our efficient CRT program. Net premiums earned were $235 million, down 1% sequentially and down 3% year over year. The slight decline in net premiums earned reflected the lapse of older, higher-priced policies as compared to our new insurance written, as well as the decline in single premium cancellations, and modestly higher seeded premiums year over year as we continue to prudently manage our risk through our credit risk transfer program. Investment income in the third quarter was $39 million, up 10% both sequentially and year over year. The recent rise in interest rates and current rate environment is providing a tailwind for our investment portfolio as our new money yield for the quarter increased to approximately 5.1%. In addition, the rise in rates has continued to increase the unrealized losses in our investment portfolio. As we discussed last quarter, we do not expect to realize these losses as we have the ability to hold these securities to maturity where market values trend to par value. Turning to credit, losses in the quarter were a benefit of $40 million as compared to a benefit of $62 million last quarter and a provision of $34 million in the third quarter of 2021. Our loss ratio for the quarter was negative 17% as compared to negative 26% last quarter and 14% in the third quarter of 2021. The benefit and losses and loss ratio in the quarter was driven by favorable cure performance, primarily on 2020 and early 2021 COVID-related delinquencies, which was above our prior expectations and resulted in 105 million reserve release in the quarter. This was partially offset by $25 million of reserve strengthening on early 2022 delinquencies as we take prudent action in response to the increased economic uncertainty. New delinquencies increased sequentially to approximately 9,100, driven by seasonality, coupled with higher new delinquencies from recent large books that are aging and going through their normal loss development pattern. Our new delinquency rate for the quarter was 1%. consistent with pre-pandemic levels and reflective of the continuation of positive credit trends to date. Our claim rate estimate on new delinquencies remained approximately 8% for the quarter. Delinquencies in the third quarter totaled approximately 18,900 and the associated delinquency rate of 2% is stabilizing near pre-pandemic levels. The ongoing improvement in both measures reflected cures that continue to outpace new delinquencies. The embedded equity position of our delinquent policies remains substantial, with approximately 91% of our delinquencies as of the end of the quarter having an estimated 20% or more mark-to-market equity using an index-based house price assessment. As I've noted in the past, this can help mitigate the frequency of claims and the potential loss for delinquencies that ultimately progress to claim. Turning to expenses, Operating expenses were lower in the quarter at $58 million and the expense ratio was 25% versus $61 million and 26% respectively in the second quarter of 2022 and $59 million and 24% respectively in the third quarter of 2021. We continue to track in line with our total year guidance of $240 million in expenses for 2022. Moving to capital and liquidity, our PMIRES sufficiency remained very strong in the quarter at 174% or approximately 2.2 billion above the published PMIRES requirements compared to 166% or approximately 2 billion in the second quarter of 2022. This reflects the approximately 200 million XOL transaction executed in the third quarter. At quarter end, we had approximately 1.6 billion of PMIRES capital credit and approximately $1.8 billion of loss coverage provided by our credit risk transfer program. Approximately 89% of our insurance in force is covered by our credit risk transfer program. As Rohit touched on earlier, Genworth believes it has satisfied the required financial conditions for the elimination of the GSE restrictions imposed on an Act with respect to capital after the issuance of the August 2020 Senior Notes. Genward believes the conditions were satisfied at the end of the third quarter and expects to maintain compliance through fourth quarter. If achieved, an Act would no longer be subject to the GSE conditions and restrictions in early 2023, subject to GSE confirmation. While the restrictions were largely redundant to our current and prior PMIR sufficiency levels, elimination of the restrictions will allow for greater financial flexibility. This matter is detailed in prior disclosures, and we would direct you to the disclosures for additional information on the GSE conditions and restrictions. As Rohit mentioned, we continue to execute against our capital allocation strategy during the period, including our commitment to return capital to our shareholders. In conjunction with our earnings release yesterday, we announced a special dividend of $183 million that will be paid later this year. We also announced that our board has approved a $75 million share repurchase program, which we will opportunistically pursue based on our assessment of market conditions. The share repurchase program is designed to balance the return of capital to shareholders by targeting valuations we believe are attractive with an overall program size that is tailored to Enact's float. Importantly, we have entered into an agreement with Genworth, through which Genworth will participate proportionately to their 81.6% ownership interest, ensuring the proportion of our float that is public remains the same through time. Both of these actions are in addition to our regular quarterly dividend. After the quarter, Emico, our primary mortgage insurance operating company, completed a distribution of $242 million to our holding company, Enact Holdings, Inc., to bolster its financial flexibility and support our ability to return capital to shareholders as planned. Through a combination of our regular quarterly dividend and special dividend, NAC will return $250 million of capital to shareholders in 2022, which is consistent with our prior guidance. Our share repurchase program represents modest upside to this amount in 2022, as we would expect the majority of shares to be repurchased after year end. Let me close by saying that I am very pleased with our performance. We've executed against our strategy, and generated strong results in an uncertain environment. Going forward, we remain focused on achieving our goals while maintaining the flexibility to adapt to market conditions as necessary. The strength of our business, strategy, and financial flexibility positions us to continue creating value for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn it back to Rohit.
spk06: Thanks, Dean. We have had a very strong first nine months of the year and enter the fourth quarter operating from a position of strength. We will continue to write responsible new business that generates attractive risk-adjusted returns, invest to enhance and ask competitive differentiation, and pursue new growth opportunities and ensure we maintain a strong balance sheet and capital position that supports our existing policyholders. At a time when home price appreciation and increases in the cost of living are pressuring people's ability to save for a down payment to purchase a home, private mortgage insurance is an important tool for homebuyers seeking to qualify for a mortgage. Before closing, I'd like to comment on the recent decisions by the FHFA and Director Thompson to eliminate upfront fees for certain borrowers and affordable mortgage products. We agree that the pricing adjustments will promote more sustainable and equitable access to affordable housing and result in savings for many first-time homebuyers and lower-income borrowers. The spirit of these changes is consistent with our mission at ANACT, to help people responsibly achieve and maintain the dream of homeownership. We look forward to the FHFA continuing to support core mission borrowers, and I'm encouraged by their ongoing review of GSC pricing frameworks to help further our shared goals. In closing, we are proud to play an important and valuable role in increasing the accessibility, affordability, and sustainability of homeownership. While the market is facing some near-term headwinds, I believe we are well-positioned to navigate this environment and achieve our goals. The fundamentals underpinning our business are strong, and I'm confident in our ability to continue to create value for our shareholders. Operator, we are now ready for Q&A.
spk08: Thank you very much.
spk01: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star, then 2. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our rosters. The first question comes from Mihir Bhatia from Bank of America. Please go ahead.
spk07: Good morning and thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to start by maybe just talking a little bit more about just the competitive intensity and what I was most interested in, you know, you're continuing to take pricing actions. Are you seeing any impact on that? on your niw you know immediately after you take them just thinking with black box pricing i imagine the impacts can be seen pretty immediately and then what are competitors doing are they generally matching you are they going back down like just talk about competitive intensity and like how that's impacting or what you're seeing as you take these pricing actions thank you yeah good morning here uh thank you for your question so i would say mi market remains dynamic and has been responsive to current economic conditions
spk06: As I said in my prepared remarks, during this quarter, we saw a higher frequency and a higher magnitude of price increases in industry pricing than what we have seen in previous quarters recently. From our perspective, our expected pricing returns remain attractive and they remain within our risk-adjusted return appetite and accretive to economic value. As I also said, we made selective price increases during the quarter, and then we continued that in October. So we find that constructive, that in terms of pricing reflecting kind of the uncertain economic environment and industry pricing going up is generally aligned with our view. In terms of your first part of the question in terms of response function from the market, I would say that depends on the segment of customers. There are certain segments of customers that actually have an immediate response and they are more efficient on their price absorption. And then there are other customers in the market that actually are slower to respond and might have more tolerances in terms of price variations between MI companies. So I would say depending on the customer segment, there is a different response function, but you're right that as we make changes, we see response functions in the market play out.
spk07: Okay. Thank you. And then just turning to, you know, loan performance and And I was curious, it's been a, you know, we've now had a little bit of a couple of quarters at least in most cases of the forbearance periods ending and loans going back to performing. Are you seeing any differences in loan performance from the forbearance cohort versus, you know, the people who took forbearance and then have their mortgage payments come back on again? Are you seeing that cohort perform any differently than before? other performance and maybe even just compare that to other, you know, re-performing loans?
spk04: Yeah, Mihir, this is Dean. Thanks for the question. You know, we try to give some details of that on page 12 of our earnings presentation. I think, you know, the primary takeaway when I look at the cumulative cure rate through the COVID delinquencies primarily focused on you know, the 2020 and the 2021 vintages is you see cumulative cure rates that are, you know, favorable to our original expectations and performing very, very well. And that covers both delinquencies in forbearance and delinquencies that never went into forbearance. One of the things we saw through this pandemic, which is a little bit counterintuitive, is the timing of those cures. loans that weren't in forbearance cure at a much faster pace than loans in forbearance. I think, you know, while that might have been counterintuitive from the jump at the beginning of the pandemic, I think it's just a reflection of borrower behavior in forbearance. There's really no, there might not be an incentive to come out of forbearance prior to the expiration of that forbearance period. And we kind of saw that in the timing of ultimate cure. But in terms of level or magnitude of cure, we see both of those groups, forbearance and non-forbearance, performing very well and very similarly.
spk07: Got it. And then just my last question, I'll jump back. It's just on expenses. You reiterated your 240 million guidance. That implies a pretty big step up here in the fourth quarter. Is there something specific or seasonal in fourth quarter that drives expenses higher? Thank you.
spk04: Yeah, so you see variable incentive compensation typically be back-end loaded in the year. So I think, you know, our expenses aren't necessarily proportionate throughout the year. And I would say, you know, we plan for some uptick in variable incentive compensation. But primarily, you know, that's what you might see, you know, when you're looking intra-year.
spk07: Thank you.
spk09: I'll jump back into Solid Corner. Thank you.
spk01: Thank you. The next question comes from Boze George from KBW. Please go ahead.
spk05: Hey, everyone. Good morning. You noted that you expect persistency to increase, which obviously makes sense. Any way to quantify that? And also, just in terms of the paydowns that you're seeing, can you tell if any of that is coming from cancellations? Is there a way to kind of break that out?
spk04: Yeah. Hey, Boze. It's Dean. Thanks for the question. So, yeah, I think, you know, just to recap, we had persistency at 82% in the quarter. It did rise in September, 84% annualized. And you're right, you know, given the continuation of the rise in rates and the lag really between application and origination, you know, a lot of the NIW in the third quarter is from the July-August timeframe and doesn't have the interest rate increases in September and October, we would expect to see a continuation in the improvement in quarter-over-quarter percentage heading into fourth quarter. You know, where that levels out is a little harder to protect, or rather predict. You know, we have a combination of a large new books written at historically low interest rates, coupled with a rising interest rate environment that we really haven't seen very often in our history. You know, what I would say is, you know, even without the economic incentive to refinance, there is a level of housing activity that occurs kind of naturally as borrowers change jobs, upgrade their housing, you know, kind of, et cetera. Maybe a place to bound it is looking contextually at where it's been historically. Our annualized persistency has never been higher than 90 percent. for any quarter on a historical basis. So maybe that gives you an outer boundary, at least based in a historical context. I think it's really kind of difficult to exactly predict where a persistency levels out, despite having, I think, a good beat on believing there's some quarter-over-quarter improvement still to come. You know, as it relates to, I think your question, Boze, was around borrower-initiated cancellations?
spk05: Yeah, that's right. Yep, yep, that's right.
spk04: So, you know, as it relates to borrower-initiated, you know, that can happen a couple different ways. The borrower can request their servicer to cancel the MI either through the amortization down to 80% LTV or through an appraisal supporting a mark-to-market at a 78 percent LTB. You know, the latter of those is subject to GSE seasoning requirements, depending on the mark-to-market LTB threshold. I think it's two plus years for a 75 percent mark-to-market LTB and five plus years for an 80 mark-to-market LTB, you know. What I would say is what we've seen is borrower-initiated cancellations, they've grown over the past several quarters, but that's off a really small base. It still represents a pretty small amount of insurance in force, actually less than $2 billion of if lapsing relative to, you know, our $242 billion of insurance in force. It is on the uptick, but off a very small base and having, you know, what I would still consider a pretty immaterial impact on the portfolio.
spk05: Okay, great. That's very helpful. Thanks. And then just in terms of the FHFA actions, you know, which Rohit referred to, any thoughts about, like, quantifying the potential impact of that? And then just a related question is, you know, with the FHA annual report out in a couple of weeks, you know, any thought where, you know, whether they might make changes there as well?
spk06: Yeah, good morning, girls. So I would say from an FHFA perspective, as I said in my prepared remarks, we applaud FHFA's action in terms of reviewing GC pricing frameworks and reducing loan level price adjustments for first-time homebuyers, as well as certain segments of borrowers below area median income of 100% or 120%. I would say from our perspective in terms of quantifying impact to market size, we are still evaluating that, especially the first time home buying side of it, to figure out impact on MI market size competitiveness and against FHA and VA. But I would expect that impact to be somewhat material. But at this point of time, I don't have a range to provide. But that's a positive for our market size. And I think on the FHA price cut, FHA is going to publish their actual report here in coming weeks. And depending on the state of the fund and FHA's view on where the economy and housing is going, they would take pricing actions based on that. I do think that that has an intersection with budget reconciliation, so might not happen as soon as folks have been expecting it. Might be kind of closer to first quarter of 2023 versus in fourth quarter of 2022, but that's hard to predict. And that could offset some of the benefits from low-level price adjustments that we heard from FHFA.
spk05: Okay, great. Thanks.
spk08: Thanks a lot.
spk01: Thank you. The next question comes from Jeffrey Dunn from Darling and Partners. Please go ahead.
spk02: Thanks. Good morning. Dean, can you provide some detail on the latest XOL with respect to weighted average lifetime cost and the attachment-detachment points and maybe how they compare to what you were seeing earlier in the year?
spk04: Michael Nutterman Yeah, Jeff, thanks for the question. So, I think from a cost perspective, and even from a structure perspective, the most recent XOL really kind of follows the structure that we've put in the market in the past. So, we typically attach around a 3 percent attachment point and detach, you know, right below the upper bounds of the PMIRES tier, which is typically around the 7% level. I'd say from a cost perspective, Jeff, you know, we haven't given prescriptive cost by structure, but we've talked about cost being in the kind of low to mid single digit cost of capital in the past. I would say, you know, given the current macroeconomic environment that Rohit, I think, did a nice job describing. What we're seeing in the market is probably on the upper side of that range. You know, certainly, you know, we still believe our execution in the traditional reinsurance market favors the capital markets, and that's why we've kind of repointed our credit risk transfer engine towards traditional reinsurance market. We just think there's some better efficiencies, better economics that we're able to obtain via that channel. But nonetheless, I think it's still coming within the range we talked about in the past, just on the upper end of that range.
spk02: Okay.
spk04: And if you, the structure itself, Jeff, just for more specificity, it's on page 14 in our QFS under column K. Okay.
spk02: The other question I have is with respect to managing capital. Obviously, when you think about ultimate claim exposure, there's a lot of protection from the underwriting and the built-up equity in the book, but none of that necessarily protects you from delinquency upticks before things get resolved for going to claim. So as you look out on 23, I guess there's two questions. One, how do you think about upstreaming capital from a strong position at the underwriting company in the face of economic uncertainty? And then number two, You have strong tail risk protection from your XOL covers, but obviously QSRs might be more helpful from a PMIR's impact from higher delinquency. So how do you think about augmenting your reinsurance program with quota share as well?
spk06: Hi, Jeff. This is Rohit. So I'll start with the first question and then have Dean chime in on both parts of your question. So I think from a managing capital perspective, overall in the business, we have built a strong balance sheet since our IPO. That's also reflected by the rating upgrades we got right after IPO and the recent Moody's upgrade. Our PMIRS buffer, sufficiency buffer was 174%. This quarter, our $2.2 billion of excess capital And that gives us confidence announcing the capital actions we announced, and obviously most of them being 2022. But as we project forward in 2023, the capital return commitments that are in our existing messaging and announcement is our quarterly dividend, which is approximately $100 million for a full year. And then in addition to that, in Dean's remarks, Dean talked about majority of the share buyback happening 2023. So depending on our view of intrinsic value and where the stock is trading, that could also be part of capital return in 2023. So we feel that at the most macro level, those capital commitments, capital return commitments are definitely within our appetite from a capital management perspective. And we feel pretty good about how we are positioned from a capital and balance sheet perspective. I'll let Dean talk about different structures for reinsurance.
spk04: Yeah, Rohit, I totally agree with your points. Just to piggyback off that in the first part, you know, our focus, Jeff, has been positioning us for putting us in a position of strength. You know, when we think about that from a finance perspective, you know, we're running multiple scenarios to make sure that we're well positioned with a strong balance sheet, with enhanced financial flexibility. And I think Rohit's kind of laid out important steps that we've done to enhance our resiliency. We've increased price. We've enhanced the credit profile of our portfolio. And to your point, we've further mitigated risk through our credit risk transfer program. So, we're really trying to prepare ourselves for whatever comes down the pipe to be prepared to fund the growth for the business and ultimately balance that with returning capital to shareholders. I think on your second question, so, XOL versus quota share to some degree. Look, we have focused on XOL so far because we believe it's the most efficient structure to meet our business objectives. And just as a reminder, our business objectives on our credit risk transfer program are really twofold. One, to deliver efficient capital. And when we think about that, it's typically in the PMIRES context. And then two, for loss volatility protection, to protect our balance sheet against the unexpected. You know, to date, We believe our structures, our XOL structures, have been the most efficient structures in the market to accomplish those two objectives. I guess the proof point there would be, you know, if you look at our seeded premiums, you have the lowest seeded premiums relative to the capital credit, I think, across our industry. All that said, we continue to evaluate reinsurance structures for fit for use. And we're not adverse to quota share. I think quota share may have a place in our credit risk transfer program at some point in the future. Again, it's just balancing how well it meets those overarching business objectives of capital efficiency and loss volatility protection. And we'll continue to monitor and evaluate quota share against those objectives.
spk08: Okay. Thanks for the comments. Thank you, sir. Are there any other questions in the queue? Okay.
spk09: It seems like those are the questions we have at this point of time. So we are going to wrap up the call with that.
spk06: We appreciate your interest. Thanks, Parzan, and thank you all. We appreciate your interest in the act and look forward to continuing our story in future conversations.
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