2/25/2025

speaker
Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Alot's fourth quarter 2024 results conference call. All participants are present in listen-only mode. Following management's formal presentation, instructions will be given for the question and answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. You should have all received by now the company's press release. If you have not received it, please contact Alot's investor relations team at EK Global Investor Relations. 1-212-378-040 or view it in the news section of the company's website at www.allote.com. I would now like to hand over the call to Mr. Kenny Green of EK Global Investor Relations. Mr. Green, would you like to begin, please?

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Kenny Green

I'd like to welcome all of you to Allot's fourth quarter and full year 2024 results conference call. I would like to thank Allot's management for hosting this conference call. With me today on the call are Mr. Eyal Harari, CEO, and Ms. Liat Nahum, CFO. Following Eyal's prepared remarks, we will open the call for the question and answer session, and both Eyal and Liat will be available to answer those questions. You can all find the highlights of the quarter, including financial highlights and metrics, including those we typically discuss on the conference call, in today's earnings release. Before we start, I'd like to point out the following safe harbour statements. This conference call may contain... date that information. Actual events or results may differ materially from those projected, including as a result of changing market trends, delays in the launch of services by a lot of customers, reduced demand, and the competitive nature of the securities services industry, as well as other risks identified in the documents filed by the company with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Also, the financial results in this call will be presented mainly on a non performance in the quarter. For all the data, please refer to the financial tables published in the results press release issued earlier today, which also include the gaps of non-gap financial reconciliation tables. And with that, I would now like to hand the call over to Eyal Harari, CEO. Eyal, please go ahead.

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Eyal Harari

Thank you, Kenny. I would like to welcome all of you to our results conference call, and thank you for joining us today. We are very pleased to report strong fourth quarter and full year 2024 results, demonstrating that a lot is at a key inflection point in its turnaround. Our fourth quarter revenues increased both year over year and sequentially, representing a return to revenue growth. For the full year of 2024, we reported revenues at a similar level to those of last year. A strong contributor to revenues was our growth engine, the security as a service solution, CCAS, consistently growing sequentially and year-over-year. For the full year, CCAS contributed revenues of $16.5 million, up 56% over the previous year, and the ARR day rent was $18.2 million, up 43% year-over-year. We brought the gross margins back to the allot's long-term range of around 70%, a significant recovery from around 57% in 2023. Our results show the return to profitability with a non-GAAP net income of $5.6 million for the year versus a loss of $53 million last year. Importantly, we reported positive cash flow generation for the first time in several years generating 4.8 million in 2024. As a result, our year-end cash position increased to 59 million, a positive trend that we expect to continue going forward. I would very much like to thank the fantastic team at Allot for their hard work through the past year supporting and bringing about this successful turnaround. I admire their determination and dedication which was key in achieving the strong results of 2024. I am incredibly proud of what we have accomplished together and I look forward to building on this momentum in the years ahead. Our security first strategy and renewed go-to-market focus are gaining strong traction and momentum. A recent highlight was securing significant new contracts, which included major telecom operators in key markets. I am especially excited with our recent win with Verizon, which I will elaborate on in a few minutes. Allot continues to gain strong traction among telcos and CSPs, as we work closely with them to market our cybersecurity solution and help their end customers adopt our solutions. The continued success of CCAS demonstrates that consumers and small businesses appreciate the importance of being seamlessly and fully protected by their service provider. As we move through 2025 and continue to successfully advance our security first strategy, a lot is well positioned and very much at an inflection point of a new long-term trend of growth and profitability. Today, our smart product line is sold as part of our unified security-first business structure. It is a solid product built on Allot's excellent technology and years of innovation, and it continues to provide significant revenue to Allot. Looking ahead, we expect a stable level of revenue from our smart product line during the coming year. While this product line's long-term visibility is less predictable than our SICAS product line, we have a solid pipeline in 2025, and we believe there is a potential for upside. Now, moving over to our growth engine, our SICAS offering. Our SICAS revenue continues to grow, contributing an increasing share of our business as each quarter passes. Looking ahead to 2025, we expect another year of strong double-digit CCAS revenue and ARR growth and improved profitability. Growth will be driven largely by our extensive and growing list of top-tier customers launching our solution, as well as the increased traction of our security solution among the subscriber bases of those customers. We have a strong pipeline of opportunities that we are working on, some of which we hope to convert to new contracts in the coming quarters. To demonstrate our growing momentum and strong traction, I want to highlight a few examples of recent service provider launches in our SICAS business. We were very happy to announce the sign support them with cybersecurity solutions for their mobile phone business customers. We are proud to partner with Verizon, one of the largest and most prestigious wireless providers in the United States and the world. Since late 2022, we have partnered with Verizon to provide our network-based cybersecurity protection to Verizon Business Fixed Wireless Access customers giving 1.5 million subscribers the option to use our service. This service has experienced strong adoption over the past year and continues to grow among the Verizon Business customer base. This new agreement makes our solution potentially available to the extended Verizon Business mobile customer base. As of 2024, year-end, Verizon Business reported over 30 million subscribers, representing significant targeted addressable market and long-term growth opportunity for a lot. Our network-secure product will support Verizon Business, expand security capabilities, offering the customers zero-touch protection from a wide range of cyber threats. We have built a solid, strong working relationship with Verizon Business and we hope to extend our collaboration with them further over the coming years. In November, we announced a new contract with Vodafone UK and our relationship with them continues to grow. Together, we launched a protection service to fix broadband customers. Complementing the cybersecurity protection they already provide their mobile customers, all builds on a lot of services. Our solution enhances threat protection across both Vodafone UK mobile and broadband networks and across all customer devices on the home network. In only a few months since launch, our solution has gained strong traction and notably increased customer satisfaction at Vodafone UK. Last month, O2 Czech Republic, part of PPF Group, launched a cybersecurity solution for both mobile and fixed broadband customers, powered by AllotDNS Secure. O2 is now the fifth operator of PPF Group to deploy our security solution, further strengthening our footprint within the group. Last quarter, I discussed Allot's new organizational structure and strategy for new growth. I will recap our strategy, especially for our new investors. Allot is becoming a security-first company, operating under one unified business unit. Our foundation is deep expertise and proven capabilities, combining two key areas, cybersecurity and network intelligence. We have been working hard to leverage synergies between our existing network intelligence assets and our security offerings, including integrated cloud-based solution focused on network visibility, traffic management, and cybersecurity for the 5G era. The combination creates a compelling value proposition, enabling us to deliver a highly differentiated, fully integrated solution, one that only a handful of companies worldwide can match. For example, we see strong value in offering CS network intelligence customers a combined offering that enhances their ability to protect networks while maintaining deep visibility into traffic. Stagger threats are constantly expanding and finding new ways to take advantage of the consumer. We are looking to stay ahead of those threats by broadening our security offering to offer a 360 degree cybersecurity protection both on and off net. Today, Telco customers can seamlessly provide cybersecurity to end users while connected to their networks. Our vision is that our customers will be able to provide consumers with the protection at all times, whatever network they choose to use. Our product and R&D teams are constantly working to broaden our security as a service offering, looking to add ever-growing value to our customers to ensure our solutions position. With our strong market presence, expanding portfolio of innovative solutions, and agility in meeting customer needs, we are well positioned to win new customers while also continue to expand within our existing customer base. This brings me to our customer-centric go-to-market approach. We have structured the organization to better support evolving customer demands. our marketing and sales team now have a regional focus on sales and customer success, empowering them to function more effectively while enabling a more personalized approach. We believe this new structure is already creating opportunities for us, expanding our install base, and attracting new customers. In summary, we are pleased with our performance in 2024 culminating in a strong false quarter with double-digit CCAS revenue and ARR growth, and a positive profit and cash flow. It is clear that a lot is at key inflection point of profitable growth following our first profitable year on an ongoing basis in a very long time. Our security offerings continue to gain momentum. as is demonstrated by recent new contract wins and service launches at leading customers. Our unified security-first strategy, integrating cybersecurity and network intelligence, differentiates us in the market, delivering fully integrated solutions that widely enhance value for both existing and new customers. Looking ahead to 2025, and improves profitability. I am increasingly optimistic about the expanding opportunities ahead. And now, I would like to hand it over to our CFO, Liat Nahum, for the financial summary. Liat, please go ahead.

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Liat

Thanks, Eyal. We reported revenue of $24.9 million in the quarter, up 2% year over year. For 2024, we reported revenues of $92.2 million, just 1% below those of 2023. Revenue from our gross engine, CCAS, were $4.8 million in the quarter, in line with our expectations, and up 49% year-over-year, comprising 19% of our revenue in the quarter. Our thickest annual recurring revenues as of December 2024 were $18.2 million. I will now discuss the non-GAAP financial measures. For all our financial results, including the GAAP financial measures and the various other breakdowns of our revenue, please refer to the table in our results press release. Our non-GAAP gross margin in the quarter was 69.7%, a significant improvement from 51.7% in the fourth quarter of last year. For the full year, gross margin dramatically improved to 70.6% versus 59.6% last year. While the non-GAAP gross margin depends on the specific product mix sold in the quarter, Our expectation for gross margin in the coming year is in the range of 70%. We reduced expenses considerably over the past year, with the non-GAAP OPEX at $15.6 million, 47% below those of fourth quarter of last year. Fall year 2024 OPEX was $64.4 million versus $111 million in 2023 OPEX. A lot had 504 full-time employees as of December 2024. We reported a non-GAAP operating income of $1.8 million, which is a significant improvement compared with a non-GAAP operating loss of $17 million in Q4 last year. For 2024, we reported a non-GAAP operating income of $0.6 million versus $65 million non-GAAP operating loss in 2023. In terms of non-GAAP net profit, we reported $2 million in the quarter, or a profit of $0.05 per diluted share. As compared with the non-GAAP net loss, of $16.5 million, or a loss of 43 cents per basic share in the fourth quarter of last year. For 2024, we reported a non-GAAP net income of $1.6 million, or 4 cents per diluted share, versus a non-GAAP net loss of $53.3 million, or a loss of $1.41 per share in 2023. We reported positive operating cash flow in the fourth quarter of $4.1 million and a positive operating cash flow of $4.8 million in 2024. Cash, short-term bank deposits, and investments as of December 31, 2024 totaled $58.8 million versus $64.8 million as of year end 2023. That ends my summary. Eyal and myself would now be happy to take your questions.

speaker
Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time we will begin the question and answer session. If you have a question, please press star 1. If you wish to cancel your request, please press star 2. If you are using speaker equipment, kindly lift the handset before pressing the numbers. Your questions will be polled in the order they are received. Please stand by while we poll for your questions. The first question is from Nehao Chokchi of Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

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Nehao Chokchi

All right. Thank you. Hey, congrats on a strong free cash flow generation for the quarter. What would you say is the driver of that?

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Eyal Harari

Thank you, Nihal. We did see continuous growth on the CCaaS, and it's mainly based on our growth with the existing CCaaS customer base, as well as the new announcement on new services launch that we mentioned with customers like Vodafone, Mio, and O2. Obviously, one of the most exciting announcements about Verizon is something that we contribute more in the future but is not yet contributing to this quarter numbers. So we see that the growth engine is producing the growth we expect as both winning new accounts, winning new services within the existing accounts and expanding the adoption of the end customers within the existing services at the existing time. So all of them are working towards additional goals and this will yield overall very nice goals this year.

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Nehao Chokchi

Okay. So I did notice that, you know, within the revenue segmentation provided, support and maintenance was up almost 4 million Q2. That's one of the biggest amounts, I think, in a long time. What was the driver of that increase? Was this basically the new customers that were being onboarded?

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Eyal Harari

So support and maintenance is mainly based on our smart product line, as the C-CAS is a SaaS model and does not provide any support and maintenance revenue. Reason is that due to Q4, catch up on support and maintenance agreement, typically end of the year we have strong results there and this is similar level to what we had last year. I see. Okay. That's what we knew of agreement that we managed to do leveraging the end of the year to win that.

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Nehao Chokchi

I see. So in terms of like this catch-up, it was actually a positive cash flow contributor, though. It wasn't just simply an accounting reflection.

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Eyal Harari

No, no. It's orders that we received that increased our business on our support and maintenance, both cash and revenue.

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Nehao Chokchi

Got it. Okay. And then product revenue, that was down 55% year-over-year. You know, why is that? Can you repeat the question? Product revenue was $4.8 million for the December quarter. I believe that was down 55% year-over-year. Why is it down so much? Yes, can you take it?

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Liat

Yeah, sure. So as we stated also in previous quarters, our product revenue, which is mainly the DTI base, can fluctuate between quarters, and it really depends on specific deals in each quarter. In general, we can say that, of course, as you can see, Each quarter, the CCAS revenue percentage out of the total is increasing, and therefore, you know, it impacts the rest of the percentages. But overall, it really depends on the specific quarter, the seasonality, and if we have specific CPI large deals.

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Nehao Chokchi

Okay. All right. And so should we be looking at the December quarter year-over-year trajectory as an indicator as to how things are going to go for calendar 25 in terms of the product revenue, or is that more a reflection of the lumpiness? And how would you suggest thinking about product revenue trending in calendar 25 then?

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Eyal Harari

So I believe that, as I mentioned in my previous prepared remarks, the small product line, as you know, it's harder to predict, and it can fluctuate between quarters. I think that the current quarter is a good baseline. What we see is where we are more consistent and growing is around the CCAS. So this should continue to grow in high double-digit rates. And we expect similar level of smart business to continue with less visibility, which means that there could be an upside due to some current pipeline things we have. But on a quarterly level, this would still fluctuate. This is non-recurring high revenues.

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Nehao Chokchi

Yep, understood. And then when you say CCAS, fatigue, growth, and high double-digit rates, I mean, does high double-digit mean 11%, or do you mean more like 30-plus percent like what you have been doing?

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Eyal Harari

This year we were doing 40%, 50%, and our goal is to maintain this success. It all depends on the adoption process. of the service around those new wins we had and continue to execute well and win new accounts. If we look on the announcement we made around Verizon earlier, this could be an amazing opportunity for us to really scale our security service offering to millions of customers. The pace is very hard to predict. It always depends not only on us but on the service provider and the channel. But definitely, we have all the, with all the recent wins, we are very well positioned to keep similar growth rates, and we are targeting to continue to work and execute well to maintain it in the next years to come.

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Nehao Chokchi

Got it. And then when you talk about this Verizon business mobile Internet security offering and the base of 30 million customers, A, is that base there growing? And then B, do you have a sense as to what are the growth ads for that portion of Verizon business versus their fixed wireless access that I believe has been feeding largely your $1 million per quarter incremental ARR and CCAS?

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Eyal Harari

Yeah, so the mobile industry as a whole doesn't grow much as opposed to the FWA, which is a niche service that is growing. I believe we can look at this as a stable install base, but a ton of 30 million customers now have the option to join our cyber protection services, and I think this is definitely a very significant opportunity for us. We just announced on this new service, we don't have yet statistics on the touch rates. And, of course, it's a lot depends on how Verizon would market it to their customers. They are working on different go-to-market strategies. But Pixwara's success today is only 1.5 million lines, and we are talking about 30 million devices. And I think it's not only about this new service. It's also very important that it cement our relationship with Verizon and shows their satisfaction from the solution that they want to expand our cyber protection to more of their customers. And we are going to work closely with them to assure they are delighted from our solution. And hopefully we have... more services we can potentially tap and protect more of their customers and more of their services. So this is a really exciting opportunity for us.

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Nehao Chokchi

Okay. Do you have a sense as far as what is the rate of gross ads for that 30 million base? I mean, there's a churn rate, and so it's a stable base. there's usually some churn out.

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Eyal Harari

I think it's a good, for the sake of exercise, you can assume $30 million is a fair estimate, and Verizon shares information on their financials that you can view, but it's quite stable-based, and the question is now how to market this new add-on service to their customer, and there are... and not necessarily just on assuming growth within this base or replacement within this base.

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Nehao Chokchi

Okay. All right. And then, you know, your incremental ARR for the December quarter was $1 million versus the September quarter being $2.6 million. And I realize the September quarter was a record quarter, unusual quarter, but can you just go over – the drivers of that tip down in the incremental ARR?

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Eyal Harari

So, as I mentioned, incremental ARR comes by winning new accounts and launching new services and adoption within the services. Some of the... It's not linear growth because once we introduce new service, it creates some higher growth. And, for example, last quarter we announced on... This creates some accelerated growth for a quarter. Nothing specific that I can share. We don't expect to see steady growth. We still work with large channels. Opportunities are relatively big. So in some quarters we could see accelerated growth and in some more modest, but overall we are looking to keep strong double-delift growth rate.

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Nehao Chokchi

And just to be clear, does that mean that the December quarter did not have any material new customer launches or segments launched within those customers?

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Eyal Harari

Some launches happen and they will contribute only in Q1, for example. You know, there is always the timing. When you launch the service, there are no customers. Then you need to add the customers. Now, it all depends on campaigns. If the customer is offering different campaigns to increase the touch rate, it increases uptake. So there are a lot of moving parts here. And because we are working with large channels, sometimes, you know, if you have a promotion with a significant customer, it creates a faster increase in a quarter. And it's not that you can expect it to be, you know, stable growth quarter over quarter.

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Operator

Okay. Okay.

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Nehao Chokchi

I realize I've asked a lot of questions here. I do have more questions, but I want to give others a chance to ask questions, so I'll just get back in the queue here. Thank you.

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Operator

Thank you, Nian. The next question is a follow-up question from Chokshi Nihal. Please go ahead.

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Nehao Chokchi

All right, guys. Thanks. So just a few more cleanups here. So gross margin did tick down 200 basis points to 69.7%. I presume that that's product revenue driven. Is that correct?

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Liat

Yes, correct. Our gross margin is dependent on the product mix and even from the product they sell in the quarter.

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Nehao Chokchi

Okay. And what gives you confidence that it was product mix as opposed to potentially some new element of pricing pressure on the product?

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Eyal Harari

No, I think that you saw the improvement year over year. We had a tremendous turnaround, and we got to the 70% range. It can still change slightly between the quarters, but this is, on a yearly level, the numbers that we are expecting to be in the 70s. And long-term, we expect this to further improve with scale and with more customers more revenue portion coming from the SICA that in general it's higher gross margin by nature because this is a service as opposed to the smart product line that is sometimes has higher cost components. So I would say that on the yearly level we expect to see similar gross margin with some improvement over time with growth and move of revenue between the product revenues into the CCAS revenue.

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Nehao Chokchi

Okay. So are you seeing Sandvine coming back into the market? What are you seeing on the competitive front from the smart product line then?

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Eyal Harari

We don't refer to any comment on competition. Obviously, we believe we have good product and we have a strong pipeline for our product. We continue to work with multiple existing new customers and potential expansions. We are not trying to go into low-margin deals or price wars as we are focusing on the high-tier customers and customers that can be assertive to our business. Sandvine has a good solution and I wish them the best and we are continuing to make our most focus on the security first strategy which is anyhow we are facing new competitors and new markets and this is where most of our efforts are.

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Nehao Chokchi

Okay, great. And then OpEx for the quarter, $15.6 million on a non-GAAP basis, flat QRQ. Does it make sense for a lot to start to now invest in OpEx as the securities and service is driving the growth here?

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Eyal Harari

Actually, this is an important question as I believe what we did this year is mainly I believe now we have the good fundamental model to allow us to be well positioned for the next year growth. We change, we focus on some area, and we are looking to further grow over time. The growth is going to be mainly in driving more investment towards our growth engines, both on the go-to-market side and R&D. On the coming few quarters, I believe you can still see some of the savings in parallel to some of the new investments. So I would say that overall on the numbers, it should be flattish with some increase towards the last part of the year. Okay.

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Nehao Chokchi

Great. I think that's everything I wanted. Oh, actually, no, one other thing. Eyal, you mentioned that you're looking to broaden your security offering. Can you detail a little bit more on how you're going to do that?

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Eyal Harari

So we are working and investing R&D around innovative ideas. I mentioned in my previous comment, one of the most important part for us is to see how we can make sure that the customer is always secured. As providing security from the network side, we are providing excellent protection for the customer while he's on its network. What we identified is that some of the operators are looking to see how they can expand their security reach also to when the customer is off the network. And this is an area we are trying to bring new innovation. This is an area we envision that we can provide more value. How we can still connect the customer to the network for security protection while the customer is now on his Wi-Fi or other network that is not the service provider one. This is critical for the CSPs to improve their customer experience. retention and satisfaction, and we are working on some ideas in this direction, which we will share later this year once we are getting closer to product launch.

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Nehao Chokchi

Got it. To be clear, at this point in time, the Polycom customers provide the off-network security protection through a third-party security product that is not necessarily as well integrated as what you're basically envisioning here? Yes. Got it. Okay. Very good.

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Operator

Thank you very much. Thank you. Yeah. The next question is from David Kanin of Kanin Wells Management. Please go ahead.

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Nehao Chokchi

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions, and congratulations. I know that in the last segment you were asked about attachment, and you kind of took a pass on that. But could you address it a different way? possibly like with Verizon, based on turning on other carriers in the past, what kind of attachment did you get? And then is this done primarily at the point of activation when somebody upgrades their phone or they subscribe for new service and they, you know, are turning it on or activating it? Is that typically when they would uptake for security? Thank you. Thank you, David.

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Eyal Harari

So it really depends on the go-to market of the CSP, and there are many considerations. It depends if they offer it as an opt-in or opt-out. Obviously, it definitely affects the touch rate. Different operators choose a different way. Some of them are trying to combine it with the selling of new service, and typically you do need a compelling event to make the customer join new services, either if he's changing his plan or his device or joining the service. I would say that based on past experience with operator, we see that at peak we get close to 50% attach rates. Typically, if the operator is doing... decent job and take it strategically, 15% to 20% are definitely our average attachments of customers. And it's then mainly based on how they are positioned. If it's a paid add-on in an opt-in, it's usually slower uptake. If it's an opt-out, it's much faster. If it's bundled with a package, then we go with the package that it is attached, and so on and so on. So different methods to see, but some of the statistics we shared in the past is we see that peak attachments get close to 50%, and average, I believe, is around 15%, 20%, 25%, very reachable goal.

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Nehao Chokchi

Okay, thank you for explaining that. And then if I could ask a question about your DPI legacy business with the troubles that Sandbine has experienced as of late, and then you have some upgrades and integration with your new offerings. Do you expect for 2025 that this is a business that could actually start growing, albeit modestly, or is something that will continue to contract?

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Eyal Harari

In my prepared remark I mentioned, we are looking to best estimate is to have similar level. If you ask me whether there could be an upside, definitely there could be an upside. It really depends on winning new projects and the timing of the revenue. We do see more opportunities in the pipeline based on our engagement with different customers. We do invest in part of the change to move into regional structure. They give us more market focus and more engagement with customers that we see that generate us some revenue. nice opportunities in the part-time. But this being said, predictability of this business is much lower, and visibility is different because we, you know, it's non-recurrent business, and it really depends if we win the project or not. So currently, we estimate a similar level, but there could be an upside here. based on some customer success. And it depends on the scale of the projects we win. I hope this answers your question.

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Nehao Chokchi

Yeah, that's helpful the way you answered it. And then last question is, in your prepared remarks, you said something like, We have a strong pipeline that we expect to convert, and I believe you were referring to CCAS. So are you indicating that you have a strong pipeline of prospective CCAS customers similar to, you know, Mio and Verizon and the large Japanese? And could you give us a little more color on that and quantify it and maybe what the TAM is there?

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Eyal Harari

So the comment was generic, and we have a mix of opportunities both on the CCATs for new services within our existing customers. We have new CCATs potential customers. We have also new small potential customers. And I think we are starting the year – very well positioned strong to address those opportunities and nothing more that I can add on at this point.

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Nehao Chokchi

Okay, thank you. We wish you well and look forward to chatting next quarter. Thank you. Thank you, David.

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Operator

There are no further questions at this time. This concludes the question and answer session. Thank you for joining us. The recording will be available on the website. You may go ahead and disconnect.

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