2/19/2025

speaker
John Struppa
Head of Investor Relations

Hello everyone. Welcome to Amplitude's fourth quarter and full year 2024 earnings call. I'm John Struppa, head of investor relations. Joining me today are Spencer Skates, CEO and co-founder of Amplitude, and Andrew Casey, chief financial officer. During today's call, management will make forward-looking statements, including statements regarding our financial outlook for the first quarter and full year 2025, the expected performance of our products, our expected quarterly and long-term growth, investments, and our overall future prospects. These forward-looking statements are based on current information, assumptions, and expectations, and are subject to risks and uncertainties, some of which are beyond our control, that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described in these statements. Further information on the risks that could cause actual results to differ is included in our filings with the SEC. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, and we assume no obligation to update these statements after today's call, except as required by law. Certain financial measures used on today's call are expressed on a non-GAAP basis. We use these non-GAAP financial measures internally to facilitate analysis of our financial and business trends and for internal planning and forecasting purposes. These non-GAAP financial measures have limitations and should not be used in isolation from or as a substitute for financial information prepared in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation between these GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures is included in our earnings press release, which can be found on our investor relations website at .amplitude.com. With that, I'll hand the call over to Spencer. Thanks,

speaker
Spencer Skates
CEO and Co-Founder

John. Welcome to Amplitude's Q4 and full 2024 earnings call. I'm going to go through three key areas today. First, our Q4 results and the re-acceleration of our business. Second, how we are going after our market opportunity and why 2025 is the year of the platform for Amplitude. Last, product innovation, progress on winning the enterprise and customer stories. Q4 outperformed on all key metrics. Our fourth quarter revenue was $78 million, up 9% year over year. Annual recurring revenue was $312 million, up $13 million from last quarter. Non-GAAP operating income was $0.2 million. Customers with more than $100K in ARR grew to $591, an increase of 16% year over year. In 2024, we exited the year with over $299 million in revenue. We grew ARR by more than 10% and we generated almost $12 million in free cash flow for the year. Amplitude is re-accelerating. We're continuing to see progress on our strategy of win simple, win the enterprise, win the category and win together. Customers are embracing our platform, churn is beginning to stabilize and we see a path to accelerating our double digit growth. I'm proud of the Amplitude team for everything they delivered in 2024. Let's look at 2025. 2025 is the year of the Amplitude platform. Every company needs data they can trust, an understanding of their customers and ways to take action. That is exactly what Amplitude delivers. First, we help customers get trusted data into Amplitude. This is table stakes in digital analytics. Then we help companies understand what their customers are doing and why using analytics and session replay. This is what we do better than anyone else in the world. Then we enable our customers to take action based on those insights using our activation, experimentation and guides and surveys products. Companies do not want standalone point solutions. Thomas and I spoke with hundreds of executives over the past year. Every single one is interested in going beyond analytics to Amplitude's platform. I want to take you through what the platform actually looks like in action. So you're a product manager. They use Amplitude analytics to discover that users are getting stuck at a certain point in the signup flow. You then use Amplitude session replay to identify the confusing part of the flow. You then use Amplitude feature experimentation to test which new signup flow works better. You realize your users need more help, so you add an in-product guide with Amplitude guides and surveys. All of these use cases are more powerful when used together in one integrated platform. Product innovation is the biggest driver of long-term growth at Amplitude. We're continuing to expand our platform with new products that work better together. I want to walk you through some of the highlights from 2024. We had two new products to market. In February, we relaunched Session Replay. Customers like Questrade and TicketSwap use it to understand the user journey, identify issues and improve in-product experiences. In October, we launched web experimentation. Customers like RBC Life Insurance, Double Good and Hard Rock Digital use it to A-B test websites with a WYSIWYG editor without needing to rely on engineering. We also made major improvements to the platform. We launched enterprise-grade features like data access controls and data mutability, building our lead as the enterprise digital analytics platform. We also launched Amplitude Made Easy to help users get started and see value in record tie. This led to a 40% increase in self-service signups and a 40% increase in the number of new self-service users sending data. Finally, we launched Snowflake Native Amplitude and an -the-box HubSpot integration to make it easier to bring data into Amplitude. We're going to do more in 2025. Last week, we launched Guides and Surveys. We got this product to market only four months after the acquisition of Command AI. Guides and Surveys helps companies deploy in-product guides, tours and surveys with just a few clicks. Amplitude's Guides and Surveys product provides a significantly better end user experience than the average product in market. I want to actually show you a demo of all of this now. I'm going to first start by actually showing you how terrible the average Guides and Surveys product is. So with the average Guides and Surveys product, you get tons of annoying pop-ups. As a user, your experience is now worse, not better. We call this the pop-up party. Nobody wants this experience and it is not effective for product engagement. Now, I'm going to show you a demo of Amplitude's approach because I want you to see how much better it is. Instead of showing every pop-up to every user by default, we customize what is shown based on what the user is doing in the product. So in this demo, we can see that the user is confused. Their mouse is moving all over the screen because they don't know what to do next. We detect this confusion and then we ask them what they're trying to accomplish. They let us know and then we show in the UI where they can complete the task. This is a tailored interaction that results in a better user experience and higher user engagement. The CEO of European email builder, B-Free, told us that the ability to guide users through their product in a personalized and JTA-driven way was the main reason for choosing Amplitude. While it is early, we are already seeing strong demand. During launch day last week, we had a record-breaking number of new signups to Amplitude. We also had some customers buying guides and surveys in Q4 before the product was even launched. Shout out to James, Vinay, and the entire former Command AI team for bringing this product to market so quickly. There is a lot more on the product launch horizon this year, including some exciting AI products. We're going to be sharing more details at our Investor Day in New York on March 10th. We believe our pace of innovation will continue to build Amplitude's lead as the enterprise digital analytics platform. I wanted to also share what we're doing and go to market to win the enterprise. The biggest change for 2025 is that we've created a new strategic enterprise accounts team to focus on our top 30 customers and top 30 prospects. This team is responsible for a significant portion of our ARR. This segment allows us to focus our resources in a more concentrated way on our larger customers. In the last year, we've nurtured stronger executive relationships, which has helped drive higher gross bookings. We now have relationships with C-level and VP levels at almost every large Amplitude customer. We've developed smarter account targeting models to help land the right customers and ensure we're building pipelines specifically in the enterprise. This paid off in a big way in 2024 and in Q4 in particular. Lastly, we built out our enterprise sales, product, and professional services capacity in a fully staffed teams across the field. Our platform strategy plays a role again here. In Q4, 67% of the new land ARR in our largest targeted accounts came from multi-product deals. However, 75% of our customers still use just one Amplitude product. Our data shows that those who use a product beyond analytics derive greater value, invest more into Amplitude overall, and retain 10 percentage points higher than those who are analytics only. The potential expansion upside for us is big. On customers, we had a great quarter for new and expansion deals in the enterprise with RBC Insurance, Hard Rock Digital, Thrive Market, Western Union, Altrails, Philip Morris, Com, Abridged AI, UltraModal, Mobile, Mercado Libre, and many more. I want to talk in detail about three of our customers today. One is Mercado Libre, the company leading the shift to online commerce in Latin America. With over 60 million buyers last quarter, including 7 million new users, they needed a way to turn their first party data into business impact. By adopting Amplitude analytics, Mercado Libre empowered its teams to move faster, make smarter decisions, and drive deeper engagement. Over 5,000 employees at Mercado Libre now actively use Amplitude, with more than half going beyond dashboards to actively query user data and uncover insights. Building on this success, Mercado Libre is now expanding into feature experimentation and Amplitude activation, replacing multiple internal tools with our integrated platform. This shift allows them to test and optimize new features, personalize campaigns, and improve customer loyalty, all powered by the same data. With e-commerce in Latin America at 15% of total transactions, the opportunity is massive. We are proud to support Mercado Libre as they scale, driving innovation and long-term growth. We are also working with more traditional enterprise companies who are incorporating a digital experience across their customer lifecycle. In Q4, we expanded our relationship with one of the world's leading automakers headquartered here in the United States. This customer is fundamentally redefining the driver experience, and Amplitude is helping power that transformation. Historically, their customer data was fragmented across multiple legacy systems. By expanding their use of the Amplitude platform, they are now unifying insights across the entire driver lifecycle, from in-car infotainment to dealership interactions to digital services. With Amplitude Analytics, their teams can now see how drivers engage with digital features in real time. With feature experimentation, they are testing and refining new in-car experiences before rolling them out at scale. And with Amplitude Activation, they are delivering personalized interactions that make every drive smarter and more seamless. The result is a more connective, intuitive experience for drivers and a data-driven competitive advantage for the company. Lastly, we are working with The Fork, the largest online restaurant booking and discovery platform in Europe and Australia. The Fork serves over 20 million diners monthly and over 60,000 restaurants. The Fork was looking to combine legacy vendors and point solutions into a single platform. Amplitude worked with the team to identify opportunities and workflows across analytics, session replay, and experimentation to reduce their data overhang and accelerate their ability to iterate on both their B2B and B2C applications. The Fork can now improve the onboarding process for restaurants, helping to increase subscriptions. It can help those restaurants improve the diner experience, first boost, first and repeat bookings and drive reservation revenue. It can also identify reservation patterns and promote them across similar demographics and geographies. As a final note today, I mentioned that churn rates were stabilizing after a relatively tough 2024. A significant majority of our large COVID-era customers have right-sized their contracts. We are seeing signs that the worst of the churn is We still have key accounts we need to watch. The macro environment also remains challenging. While we expect churn to keep improving, we anticipate continued pressure in the lower end of the market. Our team is focused on helping customers derive value from amplitude as fast as possible. The best way to reduce churn is to make sure customers succeed. Before I hand it over to Andrew, I wanted to reiterate that I am proud of how the Amplitude Team executed last year. We are still early in the Digital Analytics category and we are set up to lead it. I am looking forward to 2025 and beyond. Thank you for your interest in Amplitude. Now, over to Andrew to run through our Q4 and 2024 financials in more detail.

speaker
Andrew Casey
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you Spencer and good afternoon everyone. I am pleased with how the team has been able to the team ended the year showing progress against the plan we put in place. Our success is in our hands. We have the right team, right strategy, and right alignment in place to continue strong execution. Our land expand retain strategy is working as we move up market into the enterprise and we believe this trend can accelerate. As Spencer laid out, our strategy for 2025 is clear. We are focused on building an extensible platform for our customers that allows them to build mission critical workflows on top of our solution. Our customers creating value with our platform is our number one priority and we are focused as an organization to increase the value and speed that enterprises can realize with Amplitude. With this, we will continue to iterate on our business model to create a durable growth profile to grow shareholder value over time. When we say enterprise, we are focused on companies that have over 1,000 employees or generate over 100 million in revenue. We'll discuss more about this cohort at our investor day on March 10th, but this cohort is ripe for consolidation from point solutions. Amplitude gives enterprises the ability to have a single source of truth for their data, reducing the need to pivot from one application to another and accelerate their ability to iterate, implement, business processes, changes quickly. Democratizing analytics within the enterprise is at the core of enterprise decision making and uniquely positions us to be the consolidator of point product solutions. Our growth algorithm is focused on landing with enterprises, driving rapid time to value and expanding our use cases. So many customers have deployed a variety of digital technologies to better understand their customers, drive effective marketing, or drive improvements in their digital products only to discover the pain of managing these environments in the pursuit of driving improved business outcomes. Our sellers are focused on positioning the Amplitude platform to uniquely solve this customer pain. They develop deep relationships within their accounts and become strategic valued partners within the organization. By becoming strategic partners with our customers, we believe we will have greater attachment to our platform and create longer term relationships. We have seen this start to take hold as our RPO continues to accelerate of 29% year over year. Now, turning to our fourth quarter results. As a reminder, all financial results that I will be discussing with the exception of revenue are non-GAAP. Our GAAP financial results along with the reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP results can be found in our earnings press release and supplemental financials on our IR website. Fourth quarter revenue was $78.1 million, up 9% year over year and 4% quarter over quarter. Total annual recurring revenue increased to $312 million exiting Q4, an increase of 11% year over year and $13 million sequentially. Here are more details on the key elements of the quarter. We had a strong new customer quarter focused on the enterprise, but the macro environment still remains difficult for new logos. The number of customers representing 100,000 or more of ARR in Q4 grew to 591, an increase of 16% year over year. In period NRR was 100%, a two point increase sequentially. NRR on a trailing 12 month basis was 97%. We continue to make progress and improvements in retention and expect NRR to slowly increase throughout 2025 as we drive greater expansion opportunities. Gross margin was 77% for the fourth quarter in line with Q4 2023. Sales and marketing expenses were 44% of revenue, a slight increase year over year reflecting the investments we've made in enterprise coverage. We continue to focus on improving sales efficiencies, driving improvements through our changes in the processes and coverage and moving up market towards enterprise customers. GNA was 16% of revenue, up one percentage point year over year reflecting increases in legal and acquisition related expenses. GNA will continue to be optimized to improve as a percentage of revenue over time. R&D was 18% of revenue, up two percentage points sequentially, primarily due to the acquisition of Command AI. Total operating expenses were 60 million, 77% of revenue, up two percentage points sequentially, primarily due to the aforementioned increases in sales and marketing and our acquisition of Command AI. Operating profit was a positive 0.2 million or .3% of revenue, which was approximately 1 million better than our midpoint of our guidance. Net income per share was 2 cents based on 135.7 million diluted shares compared to $1.5 million. Free cash flow in the quarter was a positive 1.5 million or 2% of revenue compared to 1.5 million or 2% of revenue a year ago. Now turning to our outlook. We are assuming that the macroeconomic environment continues to be challenging in the near future. However, we are encouraged with the demonstrated progress of our strategic changes. We expect that every new logo will continue to be tough and that buyer scrutiny has not shifted over the past six months. As we get through the larger levels of churn, we continue to address structural issues in our -to-market motion to influence greater retention and incent deeper adoption of our platform. We are building a durable enterprise SaaS business that will enable us to drive growth as we deliver increasing value to our customers. We plan to reinvest appropriately against our platform opportunity and will not shy away from any big bets where we see favorable outcomes. Now for the first quarter of 2025, we expect revenue to be between $78.5 million and $80.5 million, representing an annual growth rate of 10% at the midpoint. We expect non-GAAP operating loss to be between negative $5.5 million and negative $3.5 million, reflecting the linearity in our business as we begin a new year with our new product announcements, sales kickoff, and other -to-market investments. And we expect non-GAAP net income per share to be between negative $0.03 and negative $0.01, assuming basic shares outstanding of approximately $130 million. For the full year 2025, we expect revenue to be between $325 and $331 million, an annual growth rate of 10% at the midpoint. Our outlook for non-GAAP operating income to be between negative $3.5 million and positive $4.5 million, reflecting our focus on growth with leverage. We expect non-GAAP net income per share to be between $0.05 and $0.10, assuming shares outstanding of approximately $142.1 million, as measured on a fully diluted basis. I'm confident in our ability to build a durable growth model by aligning to the right customers, driving the right contracts, investing to drive greater innovation, and building value for our customers. Our long-term opportunity remains incredibly compelling. With increased discipline and execution, I believe we will be in a great position to capture it. With that, we'll open it up for Q&A. Over to you,

speaker
John Struppa
Head of Investor Relations

John. Thank you, Andrew. We will now turn to Q&A. For the sake of time, please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Our first question will be coming from the line of Brent Bracklin from Piper Sandler, followed by Koji Akita from Bank of America. Brent, your line is open.

speaker
Brent Bracklin
Piper Sandler

Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Andrew, maybe we'll start with you. Net new ARR on an absolute basis was the highest we've seen in two years. Can you double-click into the drivers there on net new ARR? Is GDR improving? Is it mostly new lands that's contributing to it? Was there a little contribution from Command AI? Just trying to understand, it's such a big increase here we haven't seen in a couple of years. What drove that?

speaker
Andrew Casey
Chief Financial Officer

Well, I think it's, thanks, Brent. It's a great question. The thing I would tell you is, first and foremost, it's our focus on our enterprise coverage. We really started making changes to that in the beginning of 2024, and sales cycles in the enterprise take between 9 and 12 months or even longer in some cases. So what I think you're seeing is really the fruition of that investment and starting to see real productivity on the use cases and customers where we're delivering great value. Now, there was a component of ARR that came from Command AI as part of the acquisition, which was approximately about 2 million that we added.

speaker
Brent Bracklin
Piper Sandler

Okay, perfect, helpful. And then I guess specifically on Command AI, you guys quickly rolled out the guides and surveys product, I think, in the last week or so. Maybe walk through the potential cross-sell attach rate specifically around Command AI. What's been the early feedback? I know we're one week in. But it seems like a very compelling, incremental upsell, cross-sell opportunity. Love to hear what the feedback has been with that product now live.

speaker
Spencer Skates
CEO and Co-Founder

Yeah, for sure. I'll take that. Thanks, Brent. So it's, I mean, first, the fact that we're able to get it out to market in four months is awesome. Like most teams, you know, you do an acquisition and it's like, oh, it takes a year to get the thing integrated and working. But credit to both the Command, former Command AI team, as well as everyone here at Amplitude for making it happen so quickly. In terms of the cross-sell opportunity, I think with guides and surveys, you now have the complete set of core products for product managers from a data standpoint. So there's really no reason to go with individual point solutions. So I think that sets us up well from a competitive standpoint. And then from a cross-sell standpoint, I think, you know, you're looking 20 to 50% uplift on top of the analytics contract. So it's similar to, you know, what I'd call the uplift that you see from experimentation by completing the suite into the full kind of core platform. You know, I think overall, you'll look at anywhere between 2 and 3x of what you're doing for analytics only. We actually just closed a 200K deal for guides and surveys just yesterday. That was fantastic. We have larger ones in the pipeline for some of our enterprises in Q1 and Q2. So early, but, you know, it's we're seeing a lot of interest on it, which is great.

speaker
Brent Bracklin
Piper Sandler

Great to see and nice to see a solid execution in Q4. Thank you. Thanks, Brent.

speaker
John Struppa
Head of Investor Relations

Thanks, Brent. Thank you. Our next question will come from Koji Akita from Bank of America, followed by Clark Wright from DA Davidson. Koji, floor is yours. Thank

speaker
Koji Akita
Bank of America

you. Hey, guys. Thanks so much for taking the questions. I wanted the first one is about the enterprise sales motion. Totally hear you and appreciate all the color that you gave in the prepared remarks. But really here, we noticed there may have been some sales attrition in the sales org recently and just curious, you know, what is the current sales capacity look like today? And I was wondering if you could get a little bit more prescriptive in how you're thinking about strategically investing and go to market.

speaker
Spencer Skates
CEO and Co-Founder

Yeah, so I think last year we resegmented the business to basically move a whole bunch sellers away from SMB, you know, added the plus plan to do self serve created a whole named accounts model. This year, the big change that I highlighted was the addition of the strategic account segment to increase focus there. We've built out from a capacity standpoint, kind of what we the level the right level investment to in order to successfully go after the enterprise opportunity. You kind of saw a bunch of that come to fruition in Q4. So that was great. And, you know, we're set up from a capacity standpoint as we go through this year. Now, as a natural part of continuing to push the big business up market and continuing to evolve and mature, you know, you'll naturally see sellers a trip as you change the team and everything else. And so I wouldn't say it's significantly beyond what you'd expect as part of a maturing enterprise business.

speaker
Andrew Casey
Chief Financial Officer

Now, maybe just add that to I think as you start to instrument, you know, an enterprise go to market model, there's a lot of changes that happen. You split territories, you move accounts, you try to balance things more appropriately. And as that machine starts working more and more efficiently, that's when you start to really look at the data to make sure that you're you're leaning in and understanding the dynamics of how efficient the sales force is working before you start making additional investments. In particular, I look at in the magic number, I look at gross ARR and and, you know, look at how much expense we're actually putting towards that gross ARR. And the closer and closer we get on that result to being one, that's an that's an early indicator that you should be making additional investments. But you also have to get dig deeper. You really have to understand the profile of your sales processes, the pipeline that you're generating, the likelihood that it's going to convert, and frankly, how well and distributed attainment is across your team. If all those things are working well, then it makes a lot of sense to start investing more and more in AESC coverage to go generate and reach out to more enterprise clients.

speaker
Koji Akita
Bank of America

Got it. No, thanks, guys. And a follow up here, maybe a more philosophical question. You know, love the love the demo that we saw. I'm glad

speaker
Spencer Skates
CEO and Co-Founder

it I'm glad it worked well. This is the first time we've done on earnings call and it worked. It works. So congratulations. But

speaker
Koji Akita
Bank of America

it got me thinking, you know, Amplitude is really good at knowing what the user should be doing. So why can't that data and intelligence be fed into an agentic AI offer? Oh, yeah. How are it? And would this be a looks like a positive, right? So would this be a positive or negative for the usage of amplitude?

speaker
Spencer Skates
CEO and Co-Founder

Koji, you should join our product leadership team. I love it. You're you're you're already ahead of us. So one of the things we are going to be doing this year is launching an amplitude agent sometime in second half that will allow you to drive both automated insights and automated action. So hey, show me groups of users that I should look at and that had a bad experience or a good experience in the product or create experimentations for me of a new sign up flow and see what works the best or create different versions of an AI. So I'm going to be doing an in product guide trigger that prompts the user and test them out for me. So the agentic stuff is actually really exciting for us because to your point, we have one of the largest repositories on user behavior data out there. Right. There's there's no open. It's not like text where there's a lot of open source of stuff equivalents on the web. It's like, you know, there's only proprietary sources of this data and we're one of the largest. And so being able to extract insights and action out of it with an amplitude agent is something we're really excited about. So, you know, we don't have anything to actually show off today, but there's a team working on it, partly from the command folks and partly from some folks that we already have here at amplitude. And we're going to be coming out with something in second half. My goal will be to have something that we can maybe do a quick preview during our investor day in March. Thanks, guys. Thanks

speaker
Koji Akita
Bank of America

for taking the questions.

speaker
John Struppa
Head of Investor Relations

Thank you. Our next question will come from Clark Wright from Davidson, followed by Jackson Adera, KeyBank.

speaker
Clark Wright

Thank you. I guess building off of Koji's question on the AI theme, I would love to hear a little bit more about how you received the role of product analytics changed within the enterprise as AI is integrated into the user experience. It seems like the conundrum that you identified earlier where you see more pop ups is only becoming more prevalent now.

speaker
Spencer Skates
CEO and Co-Founder

Yeah. So the big. Okay, let me hit a few different things on that. So the big problem with the kind of biggest blocker to someone getting value out of amplitude or any digital analytics today is that they have to go in there manually and know what to query, know what to extract from an insight standpoint. Now, 100 times easier than using SQL. So you can have non-technical folks do it, but you still have to learn a little bit about the data. What's much more valuable is if you have an AI that's combing over that data all the time and then just surfacing you, hey, hey, we saw a spike in usage of this feature today or hey, this release, there's a bug in it here. Can we roll it back? That's much more valuable because now instead of only humans looking over the part of the data that they are, you know, you can have AI just looking over 100 percent of it all the time. So that's incredibly valuable on the pop up front. You know, it's funny because I think a lot of it actually reminds me of the 90s, the late 90s when the web first came online and you're just like, you get like all these advertising pop ups and there had to be kind of a whole cycle of technology to block those. And, you know, companies to realize, hey, this is not actually the best way to create a compelling user experience. Even if it gives more impressions, it's not actually you're not actually getting your user to your end goal any faster. And in fact, it's blocking them from doing that. And so we're seeing the funny, the ironic part is we're kind of back to that era and that we're seeing the same thing happen within pop up guides, you know, for any given in pop up like pop up in in an application, you're going to see, hey, yeah, it increases engagement. But then when you look at them holistically and it spans the whole experience, it's actually a worse, you know, it's a it's a worse thing overall, like out, you know, and so users are starting to get pop up blindness and all sorts of stuff. And so part of the advantage of guides and surveys being integrated with the analytics data is you can customize. So like I showed the confusion, hey, if you see a user's confused, you can intervene specifically, or if you see a power user really likes a feature, then you can give them the latest updates in that feature. And so you're giving much more tailored guides to the right user at the right time. And that, you know, I think we've seen the engagement rates on a pop up that's customized like that be two to ten times higher than just kind of the average spam that you get from from the from a median guides and surveys product.

speaker
Clark Wright

Thanks for that color and then Andrew quick one for you in terms of the linearity, or I guess maybe the delta between our growth and revenue growth for twenty five. How should we be thinking about some of the drivers of that is kind of see the acceleration continuing in the growth going forward.

speaker
Andrew Casey
Chief Financial Officer

Well, I tell you first, we're really pleased with the products we are making and a lot of the leaders were pulling are really showing up. Whether you think about that in terms of coverage or changes in segmentation. We're working on changes in our pricing model or contract duration is increasing. All those things are instrumentation and put in place to really emphasize the enterprise model and focus. And so we'll be talking a lot more of that on our investor day and how those are trying to show up and just increasing disclosures we're going to have. But I would tell you that it's it's been a journey throughout twenty, twenty four. We made investments to really position ourselves to see the growth that we have. And I certainly expect that if we continue to execute, we'll see continued progress.

speaker
Clark Wright

Thank

speaker
John Struppa
Head of Investor Relations

you. Thank you. Our next question will come from the line of Jackson, Ader from KeyBank, followed by Nick Altman of Scotiabank. I believe Kyle is on for Jackson. Kyle, the floor is yours.

speaker
Kyle
Representative for Jackson Adera, KeyBank

Great. Thanks guys. Kyle on for Jackson here. Maybe just a quick question on how we think about the shape of revenue growth throughout the year. As you guys kind of focus more on the enterprise and it becomes more prevalent. Should we begin to think about the fourth quarter kind of becoming a larger growth period or sequentially to the third quarter and kind of more important? And then just on I think you kind of alluded to macro being a little bit squishy still with some customers. Is there anything you guys could call out there between international and North American revenue? Thanks.

speaker
Andrew Casey
Chief Financial Officer

So I'll start. Yeah, go for it. All right. So the first I think it's absolutely right. The more and more we see a percentage of our error are moving more towards enterprise. We're exhibiting a model that is very classic for enterprise software companies and those that are on a calendar year end where you see the strongest performance in Q4. You know, and it's very typical that we have annual sales plans with annual quotas and people are working towards that. Whereas the beginning of the year is where we're making investments. We're returning the sales team. We're changing territories, potentially rolling out new products that we've done this year. And so that tends to be a period under which we'll see the lightest level of growth. So that linearity very classically from enterprise software is where you should start thinking about it from our perspective. Now, having said that, I think the investments we made last year are starting to show up in our pipelines in a meaningful way. A year ago, you'd probably say our enterprise business and pipeline and forward pipeline was 30 to 40%. Now it's upwards of 80% representing enterprise clients. So we certainly think that the levers we've pulled, although they have a lagging impact of the sales cycles, they are showing up in a material way. And they are the underpinnings of the reason why we're a little bit more positive about the forward guidance. The

speaker
Spencer Skates
CEO and Co-Founder

one other call out I'd make is that because new revenue is more and more enterprise concentrated, the variability quarter to quarter is going to be higher. So obviously we had a good Q4 on a relative basis. So exactly how does Q1 compare to Q2 compare to Q3? There's going to be variability. To Andrew's point, I think you'll have probably a little higher weighting to Q4 and a little lower weighting to Q1. But I think the bigger impact will just be quarter to quarter variability as deals come in or push or you sign a large deal one quarter versus the next. And so that would be the biggest thing. While I've said we're on the path to reaccelerating the business, we're demonstrating that in Q4, we expect to demonstrate that this year. Exactly how it manifests quarter to quarter may change.

speaker
Andrew Casey
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, and I think just maybe to add to that too, you saw that in Q3 where we had a number of really large expansions in Q3, not as much new logo, not as many new lands. Q4 was actually one where we had a record number of new enterprise lands and not the same number of expansions that we saw in Q3, at least the size of it. So it was much more broad based and sets us up very well for expanding those customers in the future. Sorry, what

speaker
Spencer Skates
CEO and Co-Founder

was the second part of the question? I forgot.

speaker
Kyle
Representative for Jackson Adera, KeyBank

Yeah, just around if there was anything meaningful to call out if you saw any bifurcation between strength in North America versus international.

speaker
Spencer Skates
CEO and Co-Founder

I don't think so, Andrew. Did you anything you want to

speaker
Andrew Casey
Chief Financial Officer

call out? No, not that I want to call out. I think certainly some of the FX changes out there, you hear a lot of press from others. But I would tell you just to be clear, amplitude engages in US dollar with the majority of our transactions. So although we could see some headwinds with respect to foreign currency translations in respect to discounting on deals, from a translation perspective, we really don't, we were not anticipating any majoring impacts on growth.

speaker
Spencer Skates
CEO and Co-Founder

Yeah, Q4 was pretty broad based in terms of achievement. Kudos to both. I actually want to call out our both our EMEA teams and our APJ teams for putting up great results. So it was good across the board.

speaker
Kyle
Representative for Jackson Adera, KeyBank

Great. Thank you guys.

speaker
John Struppa
Head of Investor Relations

Thank you. Our next question will come from Nick Altman from Scotiabank, followed by Taylor McGinnis of UBS. Awesome.

speaker
Nick Altman
Scotiabank

Thank you so much. You guys just alluded to the record of net new enterprise lands in the quarter. Clearly, that's a strategy going focus going forward on the large customer side of the equation. Can you maybe just talk about how those land ASPs, especially at the enterprise level, are sort of trending? And going forward, how do you sort of expect the expansion cadences to play out those customers? Because I know you've talked about in some of your more recent customer cohorts, right? You're seeing actually healthier expansions. So maybe just talk about the land ASPs for the enterprise strength and then sort of any color you can kind of provide on a go-forward basis as to how you expect the expansion motion for those customers. Thank you.

speaker
Andrew Casey
Chief Financial Officer

So it's that there's not material change in the land ASPs, especially when you consider there's still a predominance of them that still land with with analytics as a starting point. And, you know, I'll take a G2 land at 100K with the potential of expansion 20 times any day. But the really interesting thing that's starting to happen is we're seeing more and more customers land with multi-product and they understand the story. They understand the value proposition. They may even have a long-term rollout of all of our capabilities, but they're willing to invest with amplitude because they understand the innovation and the engine that we're creating. And so I think both those things and we'll have to balance a little bit as we think about, you know, where our NRR is going to go and the potential for expansions each one of those accounts. I'll have a little bit of detail for you on investor day how we're thinking increasingly about appealing to more traditional G2K customers. But there's a there's a little bit of push and pull going on right now. We're we're definitely trying to be targeting enterprise clients and but we're offering them a robust set of capabilities that we just didn't have historically. There's a little bit of push and pull.

speaker
Spencer Skates
CEO and Co-Founder

Yeah, the one trend I wanted to call out that I didn't mention the prepared remarks is that we're seeing faster time to replace legacy MarTech enterprise analytics solutions. And so sometimes we've there's been a few cases where we've actually come in and replace the whole thing wholesale. If you were to go back three, three to five years, normally we'd kind of come alongside them and run side by side. But now we're seeing more direct replacements where they're saying, hey, we're going to shut down this legacy enterprise MarTech solution and go over to amplitude. And sometimes that can happen in the land right off the bat. Sometimes, you know, it takes a year or two, you start the land small and you go to the full replacement. But that that to me is the biggest thing. You know, I don't I don't really care about, you know, obviously I'd love to land it right off right away. But, you know, if the customer gets the same point where they're using amplitude as the system of record for digital analytics, that's a win. And so we're seeing that happen. We're seeing a bunch of cases that happened in the last year where that hasn't happened prior. And so we want to accelerate that this year.

speaker
Nick Altman
Scotiabank

Great. Thank you.

speaker
John Struppa
Head of Investor Relations

Thanks. All right. Our next question will come from the line of Taylor McGinnis from UBS, followed by Tyler Radke from Citi. Go ahead, Taylor.

speaker
Taylor McGinnis
UBS

Yeah. Hi, guys. Thanks so much for taking the time tonight. I'd love to just hear how your customer conversations are evolving. So are you starting to see evidence in the pipeline of net upsells improving? Is that if so, is that being driven by a return of volume growth? Is that more cross sell? And the reason why I ask is because it seems like you guys have talked about a lot of the improvement today coming from that improvement in turn. So just as we think about when we could start to see those net upsells lead to maybe a bigger inflection in .R.R. or net new error, like any insight, I guess, that you guys are getting from your customer base there.

speaker
Spencer Skates
CEO and Co-Founder

Yeah. So I want to separate it a few things. First, I think the biggest change on the upsells is much more of it is coming from cross sell of the platform. So it's less like volume. If you were to 2021 universally volume today, it's actually platform is the majority of those upsells. So going to experiment activation, which we used to call .P.P. guides and surveys, session replay, what have you. And so that's to me very healthy because then it's like, OK, you're not worrying about you know, you're getting more value by buying more versus pay. You know, just because I'm going up in data volume doesn't necessarily mean I'm confident as a buyer and that I'm getting more volume. So that, I think, drove some great growth last year to part of in my prepared remarks. I talked about, hey, seventy five percent of customers still just analytics only. So there's still we see a lot of upside over the next few years on that expansion trend. Now, separate from that, I think you have the churn elements on analytics in particular with two big ones. The first is right sizing of large contracts and then the others is down market. So with the right sizing of large contracts, we are now that's always a little bit of a fear, but we're past most

speaker
Clark Wright

of them.

speaker
Spencer Skates
CEO and Co-Founder

So, you know, before we were dealing with maybe three or four quarter that had big risk. Now we're dealing with somewhere between zero, one, maybe two and a quarter that have that sort of risk. So, you know, there's always there's always that risk when you have multiple multimillion dollar contracts and tech companies where they're looking to reduce spend. But it's it's significantly, you know, we're now more at a more normal run rate of that this year than we were than we were last year was kind of the peak of that. I think the one place where we haven't really seen improvement yet, but, you know, this is part of where we want to continue to improve on churn and that will structurally drive growth is on the lower end of the market. So, you know, that continues to be, you know, particularly with tech startups and, you know, companies going into business that some level is what it is. And so part of our thing is like, all right, focus on the enterprise, make a larger proportion of error comfort from there. And as that transition happens and the down market stuff is smaller, you know, that that will be less of a headwind to growth. So I do expect to see improvement. You know, I that's all to say I do expect to see improvement from that as we go through this year.

speaker
Taylor McGinnis
UBS

Perfect. Thanks for that. And then maybe just a follow up, Andrew. I know there's probably uncertainty in terms of how ARR can trend throughout the throughout the year and how that new era can trend. But can you help us like, can you maybe a little bit more color on one queue? Anything we can take away from the trends that we saw on four queue and how that might fall into the first quarter?

speaker
Andrew Casey
Chief Financial Officer

I think you always have a situation from Q4 to Q1 where you reset, you know, in our business, like I said before, was very much calendar based and we're making changes in our territory setups, changes in our product positioning, segmentation. So all that takes a little time. So I think you ought to think in terms of Q4 is going to be our strongest period from an ARR perspective and Q1 will show quarter over quarter likely a decline in the in the total amount because you're doing that reset. You're you're taking time to get comp plans out and everything set up the right way for the full year. I've been said that I we're incredibly optimistic about pipelines. We have the sales teams getting settled, focusing on selling the platform, all the new capabilities we're introducing. So I think you'll see a pattern that exhibits us ramping throughout the year.

speaker
Taylor McGinnis
UBS

Awesome. Thank you so much.

speaker
John Struppa
Head of Investor Relations

Thanks, Taylor. Thank you. Our next question comes from Tyler Radke from Citi, followed by Arjun Bhatia from William Blair. I believe Ashley Kim's on for Tyler. So Ashley, the floor is yours.

speaker
Ashley Kim
Representative for Tyler Radke, Citi

Hey, Spencer and Andrew, thanks for the question. Just want to ask about some of the momentum for the newer products at Amplitude and how much it's baked into the guidance for this year.

speaker
Andrew Casey
Chief Financial Officer

So certainly I would tell you our guidance is more reflective of a broader set of investments and actions we're taking from an enterprise perspective. Now, any one product frankly is is not important as the total platform and value we're delivering to our clients. But having said that, our new products are driving incremental opportunities. They are driving greater value for our customers and equally for us. So I wouldn't I wouldn't break down our guidance by product line in particular, but it's not having them would be very detrimental to our growth. Having our products is really the fuel through which we will drive greater and greater growth.

speaker
Ashley Kim
Representative for Tyler Radke, Citi

Got it. And maybe if I could squeeze in one more question, I think during the call, you mentioned some key accounts that you're watching for potential churn. Just want to ask if you could provide a bit more color on those accounts and what you're doing to mitigate any risks.

speaker
Spencer Skates
CEO and Co-Founder

Yeah, sorry. I actually want to distinguish between two terms. One is churn and then the other is contraction. For key accounts, I'm 90 like 90 percent of it. The concern is contraction. So there'll still be amplitude customers. They'll still use us. You know, this will still generate value. It's just managing their renewal year to year with how much they want to actually spend. And so that's what we're that's what we're watching. We've seen that the risk from that comes significantly down. Now we think, you know, vast majority of those customers are at the right size. But, you know, you're kind of always watching it quarter to quarter. And so we're not really concerned about any of the larger accounts churning, but we want to make sure that their spend levels kind of stay even versus whipping all over the place.

speaker
John Struppa
Head of Investor Relations

Thank you. Thank you. Our next question is from Arjun Bhatia from William Blair, followed by Rob Oliver from RW Baird.

speaker
Arjun Bhatia
William Blair

Arjun. Yeah, thank you. And congrats on the nice Q4 here. Spencer, maybe one for you just as we're thinking about movement into the enterprise from a product perspective. Is there anything that needs to change in terms of integrations that you have that you have or systems that these larger customers will have that are different that you have to integrate with or interface with on a more regular basis? And how do you think about kind of the R&D or the development that's still left to be done there as you move up market?

speaker
Spencer Skates
CEO and Co-Founder

Yeah, there's not like any one big thing. It's like, oh, you do this, you're solved for enterprises forever. It's like there's always a growing list of compliance and data integration requirements. I'll call out a few. First, the first big one that we did last year, which I mentioned in prepared remarks is data access controls. So that's a big deal, being able to make sure to assign different users on the platform to have access to different data. So, you know, only certain people can see revenue data or only certain people can see, you know, PII or anything that's protected. So that was a very important capability, you know, particularly of the larger enterprises. The thing we're doing to build on that is role-based access controls. So that was database access controls, which you're protecting certain bits of data from certain people. Role-based access controls are allowing you to customize the roles and the sort of functionality that they have access to. And so that's going to be that's on a roadmap for this year, a key requirement for a bunch of our enterprise customers. The others, that's kind of the first bucket is from a security standpoint. The second is from a data standpoint. One of the things you see, particularly at larger enterprises, the data is all over the place and maybe in, you know, data warehouse like Snowflake or Databricks. It may be on their own cloud data store. It may be on, you know, internal data store. And so you have to do more customization to work with where the data is at. One of the big things that we did that we just delivered on is data mutability, which is how do you keep the Amplitude data store in sync with a data set that's constantly changing? So let's say a user refunds a purchase. How do you make sure to make that reflect on the Amplitude side as well? So we delivered the first version of that, I think, a month or two ago. And then there's going to be more requirements on like, okay, well, can you get data from, you know, this particular data cloud like Oracle data cloud or other data source? And that's just, you know, as they come up, we do them. They're not like some massive lift for us to be able to do. And it's just a natural part of continuing to go up market and we'll prioritize what has the best short term ROI on that.

speaker
Arjun Bhatia
William Blair

Okay, perfect. Super helpful. And then one for Andrew. Just I know this is your maybe first time giving guidance at Amplitude. So can you maybe just help us understand or for the full year at least, can you help us understand your guidance philosophy and maybe what you're embedding in the outlook or in the initial outlook for 2025? It sounds like macro is still a headwind and has not improved yet. But give us a sense for conservatism and execution cushion that you're baking in.

speaker
Andrew Casey
Chief Financial Officer

Well, I'll tell you, the guidance is the guidance. But what I can tell you is I'm rooted in what we can control. We use a lens of execution, not betting on future macro improvements to establish the basis of our guidance. And what I mean by that is the things that we're doing around our coverage model, our pricing and packaging, our products that we're introducing, you know, those things are things that we will be able to go and focus on drive value for our clients. And that shows up in pipeline. That pipeline has, you know, general dynamics around conversion rates and progress. And, you know, how we operate is really the underpinnings of the guidance itself. And so I in Q3, I talked about a philosophy of having growth with leverage. You'll see that throughout pattern of 2025 and the guidance is predicated on that. In Q1, we've got what I would call some non-recurring expenses associated with the kickoff of the year, at least for the fiscal period. And that in itself are investments, if you will, on making sales teams more effective, making our marketing programs converted to higher rate, getting better data and understanding of targeting the right customers. All those things are kickoff investments for the year and then they should enable us to drive greater and greater scale as we move forward and grow the business.

speaker
Arjun Bhatia
William Blair

All right. Perfect. Thank you.

speaker
John Struppa
Head of Investor Relations

Thank you. Our next question is from Rob Oliver from Baird. And then with our last question will be Elizabeth Porter from Morgan Stanley, but Rob, the floor is yours. Yeah, great. Hey guys. Thanks.

speaker
Rob Oliver
RW Baird

Can you hear me okay? Okay, perfect. My background is hiding the fact that I'm in a car. So I apologize for that. So yeah, a couple questions. One, Spencer, you've called out that you guys have seen really nice traction from the Google Analytics end of life and some of those accounts. And, you know, given all the investment you guys have made in the product and in the platform, you know, generative AI, I'd be curious to hear, you know, must be a pretty stunning juxtaposition for those that are now in the market. So I'm just curious to know what those conversations are. Is big bolus behind us now or are there still customers here throughout 2025 that you will expect to migrate over? And then I had a follow up for Andrew.

speaker
Spencer Skates
CEO and Co-Founder

Yeah, so on Google Analytics, you guys got to understand it's like 50% of websites are on this thing. Okay, so it's not like, you know, the, you know, most of them aren't paying, of course, but, you know, it's a huge ocean of potential customers. And so as we continue building our leadership versus, you know, Google Analytics, we're going to continue to see more and more come from that. I think the way I think about it is kind of Google Analytics is almost the starter digital analytics application that every product or marketing person starts out with. And, you know, what we think about is how do you create a smooth, easy upgrade path to amplitude over time where someone looks at it's like, oh, duh, like, this is going to be way better. So I think that's going to, you know, we'll continue to see that be a tailwind. We're actually going to be doing quite a bit on marketing analytics specifically within digital that will help improve that. And we'll announce a bunch on that in Q2. So I expect that to, you know, be relevant for the next decade for us.

speaker
Rob Oliver
RW Baird

Got it helpful. Thanks. And then, Andrew, this could be for you or also for Spencer as well. You know, it sounds like you guys have, you know, done some nice work aligning here with the strategic, strategic accounts team, you know, really focused deep into these customers at a time when you guys have a lot more to offer them. And, you know, you mentioned, you know, the customers, I think Spencer and your prepared marks, you mentioned that, you know, whereas we get, you know, really good returns from these customers and they get value still 75% around one product. So I'd be curious now, Andrew, from your perspective, now having been in your seat a few quarters and having had the strategic accounts team now for, I think, three or four, if I'm not mistaken, how, what, what, what, what is what, what sort of the changes that you've seen for them in terms of your traction and your pipeline generation at enterprise. And I guess the second part of that would be any chance that, you know, I know that the number of customers per quarter that are potentially going to down renew is less. But how does this help to mitigate that risk? I would think with those very large customers, this, this, this team would play a key role in helping to mitigate that down sell risk. Thank you guys very much.

speaker
Andrew Casey
Chief Financial Officer

There's a, there's a couple of good questions in there. So let me, let me start with first. When, when we deployed the investment of the sales teams on the strategic accounts, there's both existing customers and high value prospects, because every customer is out there trying to figure out how they can better digitally engage with their customers. And they're doing it in lots of different ways, but they really don't know that they're effective unless they're understanding the data elements that are being captured by those engagements and adjusting their needs. So this team was set up to really go after the largest D two K's in the world that are there that are struggling, trying to figure out how they digitally engage with their clients in a more effective way and deliver services or products to those clients in a more effective way. And so we recognize this and having a classic enterprise focused sales team that that understands the customers problems and understands how we can be uniquely positioned to solve those problems is one that is increasingly getting more and more effective. It gets more effective because we're innovating the product itself is not just an analytics product. It's a product under which you can derive a lot of different services around the analytics and insights that are being generated. And so the more we are effective at driving multi product engagements with clients, the greater value they get. The more that those clients see see amplitude is a critical part of their capability to generate revenue and engage with their clients. The more they will reward us with, you know, greater and greater purchases of amplitude, and we earn the right to get to that point by delivering extreme value to our clients. And what happens in that is you see contract durations increase, which includes which gives us a growth in our RPO and greater visibility into our revenue. Growth retention rates improve because now we're really essential to the customers operations. And so all these activities that we've invested in around the enterprise and creating great products that fulfill those needs are the underpinnings of our growth strategy and frankly the reduction ensured long term.

speaker
Rob Oliver
RW Baird

Super helpful. Thanks guys. Appreciate it.

speaker
John Struppa
Head of Investor Relations

Thank you. And our last question will come from the line of Elizabeth Porter at Morgan Stanley. Go ahead.

speaker
Elizabeth Porter
Morgan Stanley

Great. Thanks so much. I wanted to double click on that opportunity to better cross sell the base of seventy five customers that are only using one amplitude product. So can you just help us understand what the biggest hurdles have been for that multi product adoption? Because it seems like the portfolio you're putting together really makes a lot of sense together and just kind of related. What's the go to market strategy to really drive that unlock? Is it kind of more education that's needed? Is there something that we could do on pricing and bundling?

speaker
Spencer Skates
CEO and Co-Founder

Yeah, yeah. Great. Great questions, Elizabeth. So I think what we've done well is particularly with new customers, helping them understand that we're a platform. You know, I mentioned sixty seven percent of our larger lands last quarter actually were multiple products. So that was great. You know, we've I think we've got that motion dialed and, you know, as new customers make up a larger portion of the user base, you'll see that reflect on the rest. The part I think we did not do as well of a good job last year was on on the existing customer renewals. You know, I think we see the rate of additional products much, much less. It's like 10, 20 percent on renewal and kind of what we're realizing. It's just easy to think of us, you know, once you're buying us for analytics, it's easy to get put in that box and, you know, for them to call up their salesperson and just say, hey, give me the analytics demo and let's keep doing this use case. And so we put some specific incentives and training in place this year to specifically drive multi product for renewals, which we didn't have prior. So getting the existing renewal base to turn over to the become multiple products that that's that's kind of the big lever for us.

speaker
Elizabeth Porter
Morgan Stanley

Got it. And then just as a follow up on the margin side, understand there's a lot of investment this year, particularly around the go to market was curious to get any sort of better visibility in towards the midterm model or just philosophically how we should think about top line upside potentially flowing through to margin or just given the opportunity. Is it more likely that we're going to see you guys push the gas on on that investment?

speaker
Andrew Casey
Chief Financial Officer

I think we talked about, you know, in 2024, we made a lot of investments that were not quite at the productivity curve we expect. And I would tell you that certainly sales and marketing, G and A, they were areas I had in Q3. And I would say again in Q4, we're not where we want them to be as far as an efficiency perspective is. And earlier in the call, I was talking about what are the indicators that would suggest that we'd invest more in sales and marketing, given that that productivity is increased to a point where the data is telling you it's time to go do that. We're not there yet. And so I would tell you the amount of growth that we're thinking we're going to be doing throughout 2025. And we're certainly expecting that that's going to come with leverage.

speaker
Elizabeth Porter
Morgan Stanley

Thank you so much.

speaker
John Struppa
Head of Investor Relations

Thank you. And that will conclude our fourth quarter earnings call. Thank you for your time and interest. We are excited to host our investor day on March 10th in New York City at the NASDAQ market site, starting at 2 30 PM Eastern time. We do have limited capacity, but if you would like to attend in person, please reach out to me at ir at amplitude.com. In addition to our investor day, we will be attending a number of conferences this quarter, including those hosted by Baird, Morgan Stanley, JMP, KeyBank and Cantor Fitzgerald. Thank you and take care. Thank you all. Thank you.

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