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spk01: Fiscal Quarter 3, 2024 earnings call. My name is Jemah and I will be your moderator for today. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. I would now like to turn the conference call back over to our host with Alpha and Omega. Please go ahead.
spk06: Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Alpha and Omega Semiconductor's Conference Call to Discuss Fiscal 2024 Third Quarter Financial Results. I am Stephen Pelleo, Investor Relations Representative for AOS. With me today are Stephen Chang, our CEO, and Yifan Liang, our CFO. This call is being recorded and broadcast live over the web. A replay will be available for seven days following the call via the link in the Investor Relations section of our website. Our call will proceed as follows today. Stephen will begin business updates, including strategic highlights and a detailed segment report. After that, Yifan will review the financial results and provide guidance for the June quarter. Finally, we will have a Q&A session. The earnings release was distributed over the wire today, May 7th, 2024, after the market closed. The release is also posted on the company's website. Our earnings release and this presentation include non-GAAP financial measures. We use non-GAAP measures because we believe they provide useful information about our operating performance that should be considered by investors in conjunction with GAAP measures. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to comparable GAAP measures is included in the earnings release. We remind you that during this conference call, we will make certain forward-looking statements, including discussions of the business outlook and financial projections. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially. For a more detailed description of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to our report and subsequent filings with the SEC. We assume no obligations to update the information provided in today's call. Now I'll turn the call over to our CEO, Stephen Jang. Stephen?
spk07: Thank you, Steve. Welcome to the Alpha and Omega Fiscal Q3 earnings call. I will begin with a high-level overview of our results and then jump into segment details. We delivered fiscal Q3 results in line with our guidance for revenue and gross margin. Revenue was $150.1 million. Non-GAAP gross margin was 25.2%. Non-GAAP EPS was slightly better than expectation at a loss per share of 4 cents. This quarter, we saw seasonal declines in computing and smartphones and continued inventory corrections in gaming, quick chargers, and solar. Looking at a broader view of the overall semiconductor cycle, inventory corrections across the majority of our end markets are now approaching their conclusion, positioning us for a gradual rebound as we move forward into the rest of calendar year 2024. For example, the rate of decline in gaming and quick chargers slowed during the quarter, and we saw sequential growth in tablets, appliances, and e-mobility. In addition, during the March quarter, we saw an increase in demand for newer applications, such as graphics cards and AI applications. As we stated last quarter, we are approaching the recovery phase of the next cycle. While the exact trajectory is hard to predict, we are coming out of the downturn, an even stronger and more resilient company. Starting from the June quarter, we forecast a rebound in gaming and continued strength from tablets, graphics cards, and AI. Looking beyond, we anticipate the second half of this year will be stronger than the first half as customers gear up for new product launches in smartphones as well as PCs. Looking beyond 2024 to the growth phase of the next cycle, ALS is transitioning from a component supplier to become a comprehensive solution provider, enabling us to go deeper with increasing bomb content and penetrating new products and verticals. We have built upon our core competencies of high-performance silicon, advanced packaging, and intelligent ICs to expand our product offering. For example, we now have multi-phase controllers in addition to smart power stages to power not only computing V-Core, but also extending to graphics and AI data center applications for advanced computing. We also continue to leverage our core technology IP and strengths in other applications such as battery, motor, and power supply while investing in R&D into adjacent markets. With that, let me now cover our segment results and provide some guidance by segment for the next quarter. Starting with computing, March quarter revenue was up .4% year over year and down .3% sequentially and represented .8% of total revenue. These results were in line with our original expectation for a mid-single digit decline sequentially due to seasonality and the impact of Chinese New Year. As mentioned before, sequential growth in graphics cards, tablets, and AI accelerators helped partially offset the seasonal decline that was mostly for notebooks. Looking forward into the June quarter, we expect the computing segment to grow mid to upper single digits on continuous strength in tablets, AI, accelerators, and graphics cards. Turning to the consumer segment, March quarter revenue was down .1% year over year, up slightly .3% sequentially and represented .7% of total revenue. The results exceeded our forecast for a low single digit sequential decline driven by strength in home appliances and LSDTV. The inventory correction in gaming continued in the March quarter, but as we suggested last quarter, we see opportunities to increase BOM content within the current console platform as part of a product refresh coming very soon. We also remain engaged in deep discussions for the next generation model design. For the June quarter, we forecast double digits sequential growth in the consumer segment due to an end to the inventory correction in gaming, which is expected to drive a strong rebound. Next, let's discuss the communication segment. Revenue in the March quarter was up .2% year over year and down .4% sequentially and represented .9% of total revenue. These results were below our expectations as continued strength in March quarter shipments to the Korea and China based smartphone OEMs were offset by a seasonal decline in shipments to the tier one US smartphone customer, as well as a slowdown in networking. Looking ahead, we anticipate a strong sequential rebound in shipments to our tier one US smartphone customer as they prepare for their fall launch, while we forecast a sequential decline from Korea and China OEMs. Even with a sequential decline, our China OEM business remains strong and up significantly year over year. Overall, we estimate the communication segment will be flat sequentially in the June quarter, which is notably higher year over year because of our bomb content and market share increases. Now let's talk about our last segment, power supply and industrial, which accounted for .5% of total revenue. March quarter revenue was down .5% year over year and down 29% sequentially. These results were driven by a continued inventory correction in quick chargers following the peak season shipments to our tier one US smartphone customer in the September quarter last year, and a sequential decline in ACDC power supplies, power tools and solar. As mentioned last quarter, we saw strong sequential growth from the e-mobility segment driven by deepening customer relationships for e-bikes and e-scooters. For the June quarter, we expect the segment to increase mid to upper single digits sequentially, mainly due to the end of the inventory correction in quick chargers and continuous strength in e-mobility. In closing, we delivered fiscal Q3 in line with our expectations. Over the past year or so, we have experienced rolling inventory corrections in nearly every one of our end markets. We believe the bulk of the adjustments are now behind us. Seasonality is starting to return as we prepare for PC and smartphone launches in the fall. Looking into the next cycle, we are poised for growth, bolstered by advanced technology, a diversified product portfolio addressing a broadening array of end markets and a premier customer base across all business lines. Power management underpins key trends such as AI, digitalization, connectivity and electrification, especially as we move towards a sustainable low carbon society. We're steadfast in executing our technology roadmap. Customers increasingly view us as a total solutions provider, allowing us to capture a greater portion of the bill of the materials and ultimately supporting growth that outpaces industry over the long run. With that, I will now turn the call over to Yifan for a discussion of our fiscal third quarter financial results and our outlook for the next quarter. Yifan.
spk04: Thank you, Stephen. Good afternoon, everyone and thank you for joining us. Revenue for the quarter was $150.1 million, up .2% year over year, down .2% sequentially. While March quarter is historically our seasonally lowest revenue quarter due to the technicality of consumer spending, the year over year growth indicated the strength of our recovery from the inventory corrections. In terms of product mix, D-MOS revenue was $93.8 million, up .9% over last year and down .8% sequentially. RIC revenue was $50 million, up .4% from a year ago and down .6% from the prior quarter. Assembly service and other revenue was $1.2 million as compared to $0.6 million for the same quarter last year and $0.7 million last quarter. Lessons and engineering service revenue was $5.1 million for the quarter versus $5.5 million in the prior quarter and $3.6 million for the same quarter a year ago. Non-GAAP gross margin was .2% compared to .1% a year ago and 28% last quarter. The quarter over quarter decrease was mainly driven by lower utilization and ASD erosion, partially offset by better mix. Non-GAAP operating expenses were $38.9 million compared to $36.2 million last year and $37.9 million for the prior quarter. The quarter over quarter increase was primarily due to higher payroll tax expenses, given the start of a new calendar year. Non-GAAP quarterly EPS was a loss of 4 cents compared to a loss of 21 cents a year ago and 24 cents earnings per share last quarter. Moving on to cashflow, operating cashflow was $28.2 million including $9.9 million of repayment of customer deposits. By comparison, operating cashflow was $11.6 million last year and negative $23.5 million in the quarter. We expect to refund about $4.5 million customer deposits in the June quarter. We also repurchased 287,000 shares of employee restricted stock units vested during the quarter for $6.7 million. If that's for the quarter was $11.6 million compared to $6.5 million for the same quarter a year ago and $20.7 million last quarter. Now let me turn to our balance sheet. We completed the March quarter with a cash balance of $174.4 million compared to $162.3 million at the end of the last quarter. Net trade receivables decreased by $18.7 million sequentially. The sales outstanding was 15 days for the quarter compared to 18 days for the prior quarter. Net inventory increased by $6.4 million quarter over quarter. Average days in inventory were 153 days compared to 141 days in the last quarter. CapEx for the quarter was $7.4 million compared to $9.1 million for the prior quarter. We expect CapEx for the June quarter to range from $6 million to $8 million. Now I would like to discuss June quarter guidance. We expect revenue to be approximately $160 million plus or minus $10 million. Gap growth margin to be .7% plus or minus 1%. We anticipate the non-gap growth margin to be .3% plus or minus 1%. Gap operating expenses to be in the range of $47.9 million plus or minus $1 million. Non-gap operating expenses are expected to be in the range of $39.5 million plus or minus $1 million. Net interest expense to be approximately $0.5 million and income tax expense to be approximately $0.9 million. With that, we will open the call for questions. Operator, please start the Q&A session.
spk01: At this time, we will begin our question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If for any reason you would like to remove that question, please press star followed by two. Again, to ask a question, press star one. As a reminder, if you're using a speakerphone, please remember to pick up your handset before asking a question. Our first question comes from David Williams with the company Benchmark. David, your line is now open.
spk05: Thanks, good afternoon and thanks for taking my question. Congrats on the return to growth here and it sounds like you guys are a lot more positive than we've heard in some time, so that's great to hear. I guess, Stephen, just one of the first things I wanted to ask was on the smartphone, on the handsets there, you talked about that being a little bit better or strength Q2Q. Is that when you would typically begin to see that order pull in for those flagship launches and how do you think that compares relative to prior years? Do you think you're seeing any changes in those order patterns or would you describe it maybe as typical?
spk07: Certainly, we've commented that smartphones is doing better than normal seasonality. In a typical year, we would usually see the March quarter as a low season for smartphones, kind of opposite of the fall launches that we normally prepare for. This year, actually, we saw strength in the March quarter. It is, generally, it is still, no, not, it still dropped a little bit compared to the December quarter but actually still at a very high level. I think the key difference for that is actually the strength in the China market, especially, particularly, in the premium phones. That has helped to offset some of the normal seasonality we see in the other phone makers.
spk05: And, as a matter, are you guys able to ship into Huawei on any products there or are they still not a customer there?
spk07: Yeah, right now, we do not ship to Huawei.
spk05: Okay, perfect, thanks. And then, I just noticed there were, and you talked a little bit about some of the new products, but it seems like you put out quite a few, especially on the compute side. I just wonder if you can kind of help us maybe quantify the magnitude of what these new products kind of bring into that compute market and how that can help you grow that content relative to what you've discussed in the past on just kind of that CPU upgrade or generational change. But how much additional content do you think you can capture from the new products that you've been able to sell if you're releasing into that market?
spk07: Sure, so there's actually quite a bit going on in the computing space. In the normal computing, I would say it's the client computing side, we are expanding our bomb content there by going after total solutions. So not only going after the effects and the power stages, we're also introducing the multi-phase controllers in order to sell a total solution into that, into the powering the V-Core solutions. So with that, we're seeing bomb content grow. It used to be in the $2 range, it's going into the $3 range, and depending upon the configuration, can push higher than that. But that's helping us in general because with the latest power maps being used and that the CPUs are being used, we're seeing more driver losses, more phases, which basically means more content for us going into powering the CPU. Now, so that's what's going on the client side. The other thing that we're seeing in general is that we are expanding more, not only from the client PC side, but also going into advanced computing. And we've been sharing about our success in general into the graphics market. We're seeing a return into growth for the graphics side. So we feel a little more confident that the inventory correction there is behind us, and we are seeing growth specifically for the graphics side. And the graphics, we've been in there since, more significantly, ever since the year 2000. So it's good to see that market coming back for us. And the other new area that I would say that's in the computing space is AI. And over there, we're starting to get some business because of our success in graphics cards. One of our customers is basically using a similar solution in their AI accelerators. So we're still seeing some contribution coming there, going into AI accelerators.
spk05: Lots of great color there, certainly appreciate that. And it's good to hear the progress. I guess maybe lastly for me here, it's just on the home appliances. You've talked about that being a green fill opportunity, still relatively under-penetrated, but you've got the new products, and it sounds like that market is performing a little bit better. Just wondering how you're seeing that appliance market, maybe not just the short term, but the longer term. How much share do you think you can have there, and maybe what do you think that can be in terms of a total opportunity for you from a revenue standpoint as you look out the next maybe 12 to 18 months? Thank you.
spk07: Sure, home appliances is definitely one of our target and applications. We've been addressing this with our IGBT as well as our modules based on those IGBTs, going after the compressor motors and refrigerators, going after the drum motors used inside washing machines and dryers. This is a great market for us. We are just starting in this space. Overall, this is like a $2 billion market where we have somewhere around like 1% market share. There's quite a bit for us to be able to do more in this space. Right now, we are trying to catch on to the general trend towards inverter motors being used to power those motors used inside those home appliances. Right now, there are some headwinds generally in the end market just because it is tied to the overall global housing market. But yes, we do see some strength, at least in the next quarter or so. We hope that this trend can continue going forward. It is an important end market for us and we continue to invest in this space.
spk05: Thanks again for the time.
spk01: Thank you, David. Our next question comes from Craig Ellis with the company B Riley Securities. Craig, your line is now open.
spk02: Yeah, thank you for taking the question and congratulations on getting through the cycles, guys. I wanted to start with a follow-up on a point that was made in prepared remarks, I think by you, Stephen, regarding sharing content gain that is occurring across really all of your end markets. And the question is this, is we look at what's happening in, for example, the content gain in PCs with dollar content going from $2 to $3 in some systems or with share gain that you might have in the communications and markets. Can you rank which end markets would benefit the most this year from those company-specific gains down to the least benefit? How do we think about the relative contribution of that as we think about what's going on in the business this year? That's the first question.
spk07: Sure, I would say if you ask more generally, I would say the smartphone impact is probably the bigger one, and we're talking about the short-term, because as we mentioned, the strength in the China phones. But as regarding the bomb content increase, our products are doing particularly well in the higher-end phones. And one of the general trends there is actually moving towards higher charging power. Basically, the end customer wants to be able to charge their phone much faster. Therefore, you have to push more power through our devices to charge a battery or to operate the phone. So that is increasing the performance and the bomb content for power in those applications. So both gaining share overall, and we also continue to do well in the US tier one phone maker as well too, in terms of having a solid share there. So both share gain as well as bomb content increase is playing well there. On the PC side, we talked about the general bomb expansion is contributing there. We are starting to see more IC content going in there in general. But at the same time, the PC market is still not out of the down cycle yet. It's gonna take a little bit longer to get there, but we are being better positioned with more content addressing the PC. But in the meantime, we're also expanding diversifying within computing to get into more in the graphic side as well as the AI portion.
spk02: That's helpful, Stephen. And the follow-up question is really twofold. First, very specifically to PCs. If Intel is on track to ship 40 million Meteor Lake units this year in the back half per their target, and then I think it's 60 million next year, is that where you're getting some content gain? And are we seeing some of that in the guidance for fiscal 4Q? And then the broader question beyond just compute, I think three months ago when you talked about mid-year and the second half of the year, you saw the potential for there to be a seasonal rise in the business. It looks like we're starting to see that. Can you just talk about how your expectation for the back half of the year or the fiscal first half of 25 has changed in the last three months? What's gotten better and has anything ticked lower? Thank you.
spk07: Sure. Regarding PCs in the first half calendar versus second half calendar a year, we do think that the second half will be stronger than the first half, but it's hard to see how strong it will be going beyond the PC season in September. We do believe that the seasonal patterns are already coming back, but we're hesitating to call it a full recovery. And I think we'll know better once we're into that second half in terms of whether it will persist going into this December quarter. Overall, I think we think it will probably take a little longer to get to the full recovery for PCs. I think Intel's transition to Meter Lake will help. We're hoping that some of these new platforms in general from the OEMs will also start to trigger more end demand for PCs. But overall, yeah, we are expecting to see PCs be stronger going into the September quarter, but we're gonna be careful watching out for that.
spk02: And if I could just lastly, one for you, Yvonne. Nice to see gross margins performing a little bit better than at least our model. My question is this, as you look beyond June, what are some of the bigger gifts and takes that we should be aware of for gross margin and really the pace of expansion, and what do you need to see to be confident that gross margins can move back to about 30% level and then at some point higher? Thank you.
spk04: Sure, yeah, I mean, as we guided for the June quarter, I mean, we do expect to see some gross margin pick up there. Beyond that, there are many factors that could affect gross margin. I mean utilization will be the one, and also product mix and overall ASP environment. At this point, I mean, we still think and our midterm target model, and when we reached $1 billion in revenue, we expect to get to 30% gross margin on the non-gap basis level.
spk02: Got it, thanks guys, I'll hop back in the queue.
spk01: Thank you, Chris. Our next question comes from Jeremy Kwan with the company Stiefel, Nicholas & Co. Jeremy, your line is now open.
spk03: Yes, thank you, and I guess maybe a follow up on the gross margin question. Yifan, you mentioned at the $1 billion mark, 30% gross margin, can you help us bridge that gap, I guess, from now to there? How much do you see coming from revenue absorption and how much from better mix, and maybe how you see pricing, the pricing environment factoring into that forecast? Thank you.
spk04: Sure, I mean, when we get to the $1 billion level, we expect most of the gross margin improvement would come from product mix, so by reaching $1 billion in the product mix, I would expect we have quite a bit improvement in terms of power IC products and some higher socket products, even in the MOSFET business, so overall, I would expect majority of the gross margin improvement comes from product mix. And I would say ASV environment, you know, would be returned to normal, and I mean, right now, it's a little bit, I would characterize as a little bit worse than normal, while still in the inventory correction mode.
spk03: And just as a reminder, the normal environment is that mid to high single digit declines, and right now, it's maybe high single digits, can you help us quantify that a little bit more in terms of the pricing environment?
spk04: Yeah, I mean, typically, there would be in the mid to high single digits decline, and right now, there's some more on the annual basis and trending toward a high single digits.
spk03: Great, and I guess in terms of the competitive landscape, I think you mentioned before, you know, seeing more competition at the low end, has that changed appreciably in the last three months? And yeah, any more clarity on that that you can provide for us in terms of, you know, how much of your portfolio it affects, that would be very helpful.
spk04: I mean, in the past three months, I don't see a whole lot of changes in terms of product mix, and you know, as we mentioned, and you know, in certain application and markets, and yet we do see some improvements, for example, in the smartphone, in the graphic cards, and in those areas.
spk03: Got it, and one final question, just going back to gaming, for the recovery in the June quarter, do you have a sense of how much of that is coming from inventory headwinds going away, and maybe even restocking, and how much of it is coming from the higher bomb content you have? And one final question on that, I know it's a little early for the next gen, but do you also anticipate like a step function bomb increase over this mid-cycle refresh platform in terms of the bomb content? Yeah, any more details on that would be helpful. Thank you.
spk07: Sure, Jeremy. Yes, for the gaming consoles, and just a reminder that they are in about year four or five of their about seven-year life cycle, and so that's where the inventory correction was coming from as they're entering the kind of second half of that life cycle. So we are happy and encouraged to see the orders coming back and going into the June quarter, and I don't have a hard number, but maybe roughly half-half. We are definitely seeing the return of orders for the existing parts that's in the bomb, and we're also seeing a ramp up for the derivative product that they're bringing out towards the end of this year as well too. So both are making an impact and helping for that sub-segment to grow.
spk03: Thank you very much. Thank you.
spk01: Thank you, Jeremy. At this time, there are no other questions registered in queue. Again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. There
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spk01: at this time, I'd like to pass the conference call back over to our management team for any closing remarks.
spk06: Okay, hi, it's Stephen Puleo. Before we conclude, I'd like to briefly mention two upcoming events. Management team will be participating in and will be available for -on-one meetings at the B. Riley 24th Annual Institutional Investor Conference May 22nd in Beverly Hills and the Stiefel 2024 Cross-Sector Insight Conference on June 5th in Boston. If you wish to request a meeting, please contact the institutional sales representative at each of the sponsoring banks. This concludes our earnings call today. Thank you for your interest in AOS and we look forward to talking to you again next quarter. Thank you.
spk01: That concludes our Alpha and Omega Semiconductor Fiscal Quarter 3, 2024 earnings call. Thank you for your participation and enjoy the rest of your day.
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