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spk01: Good day, everyone, and welcome to today's American Resources Corporation second quarter 2023 conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, you will have the opportunity to ask questions during the question and answer session. You may register to ask a question at any time by pressing the star on your telephone keypad. You will withdraw yourself from the queue by pressing star and two. Please note, this call may be recorded, and I will be standing by if you should need any assistance. It is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Mark LaVarghetta, Head of Corporate Finance and Communications. Please go ahead.
spk07: Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. On behalf of American Resources Corporation, I'd like to welcome everyone to our second quarter of 2023 Conference Call and Business Update. We always welcome this opportunity to provide an update on our businesses and discuss our accomplishments we've made over the past several months and how we are uniquely positioned within the markets that we serve for our American Carbon, American Metals, and Re-Element Technologies Division. Also on the call today is Kirk Taylor, our Chief Financial Officer. Chairman and CEO Mark Jensen is currently en route to Africa for meetings relating to lithium ore partnership opportunities. So Kirk and I will provide some prepared remarks, then we will get into the question and answer part of the call. Before we kick it off, I'd like to remind everyone of our normal cautionary statement. Certain statements discussed on today's call constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Security Litigation Reform Act. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors which could cause actual results to differ materially from the results discussed in the forward-looking statement. When considering forward-looking statements, you should keep in mind the risk factors, uncertainties, and other cautionary statements which are laid out in our press releases and SEC filings. We also do not undertake any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statement, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. Lastly, for anyone wanting to ask questions today, I believe you will need to dial in by phone to get into the queue. We're going to begin today with a few comments from our Chief Financial Officer, Kirk Taylor.
spk00: Kirk?
spk02: Thank you, Mark, and thank you, everyone, for sharing a couple minutes here this afternoon to listen about our Q2 results and business updates. Over the past several months, we have continued our execution on solidifying our strategic positioning within our addressable markets, which we believe positions our companies for long-term value creation. In doing so, and in conjunction with the direction of our strategic committee, we have embarked on several initiatives to unbundle our unique platform of assets, to better unlock value for all of our shareholders and position each entity as a standalone company. I will go into some further detail on each of these initiatives. First, the spinoff of Realment Technologies. As we've previously discussed, our intention is to spin off our wholly owned Realment Technologies division into a standalone public company. This will give it strategic positioning and groundbreaking innovation as a world-leading refining technology platform using our patented chromatography technology to refine critical minerals. This past January, we have filed our Form 10 registration statement with the SEC to begin that process. Subsequently, we have filed the necessary amendments to update the financial information and address comments and questions raised by the SEC. All of our filings related to this can be found at sec.gov under Re-Element Technologies. And at this time, we have addressed all comments and questions from the SEC. We've also engaged a top tier one investment bank to advise us through this process, while also commencing a capital raising process at the subsidiary level. This is to fund re-element's initial growth plans as a pure play next generation critical mineral refining platform. Feedback and interest from potential strategic investors have thus far been very positive. We expect to have this process completed later this year or early next year, and we'll communicate our progress as much as we are able to. Second, spinoff of American Carbon Corporation. This morning, we filed our initial Form 10 registration statement with the SEC to spinoff our wholly owned American Carbon division into a separate standalone public company. The filing can be found as well on sec.gov under American Carbon Corporation. In conjunction with the recommendation from our strategic committee and approved by our board of directors, spinning off American carbon into its own public platform better enables the business for growth, capital allocation, and a dedicated separate operating team. In basic terms of structure, American resource shareholders would receive approximately one share of American carbon for every two shares of American resources, common shares, which are owned. Additionally, American Resources Corporation will receive up to $300 million in the form of royalty payments from American Carbon over a period of time. Additionally, we have secured a $20 million factory facility for American Carbon to support its normal course of business. And upon the spinoff of American Carbon, we are in negotiations with a $100 million equity financing facility that will be in place under the American Carbon Pubco as an additional option to fuel acquisition and operating growth. Both of these financing facilities will go alongside the already closed and announced $45 million tax exempt bond for expansion and development of Wyoming County, West Virginia, which cumulatively represents approximately $165 million of financing capacity for a standalone American Carbon. We feel the American Carbon platform will be the most well-capitalized, streamlined operation in the met coal space. Further, we've looked at monetization of the carbon platform in other ways other than spinning it out. As we have reiterated, we remain highly focused on monetizing our substantial platform of carbon assets, either through operations, leases, or divestitures. We've also previously communicated that we've successfully closed our $45 million Texham Industrial Development Bond offering West Virginia Economic Development Authority, which will fund expansion and technological improvements to existing metallurgical carbon processing facility at our Wyoming County coal complex. Subsequent to that closing, we have seen an increased interest in certain and all of our carbon assets from several parties. These include an unsolicited bid for all the assets associated with American Carbon for an implied enterprise value of approximately $260 million which was not accepted by our board of directors due to the duration and structure of the consideration payments, which we had previously announced. We also previously announced that we entered into a binding letter of intent to sell certain assets associated to our Dean Mining Complex for a total enterprise value consideration of approximately 20.6 million, or 26 cents per share. More recently, we also received a non-binding letter of interest from a non-affiliated party to purchase remaining assets of American Carbon for a total consideration of approximately $300 million, or $3.83 per share. We've also received a non-binding letter of interest from a separate non-affiliated party to purchase assets associated with the Perry County Resources Complex for a total consideration of approximately $40 million in cash and enterprise value, or 51 cents per share. Management and our board and strategic committee are currently reviewing these opportunities and we'll of course provide updates when appropriate. There are obviously several options for us to explore. We have a world-class set of assets, world-class operating team, and very well-funded path to high production levels. We will pursue each of these scenarios and determine which best benefit our shareholders and our workforce alike. Next, I'll turn to our SPAC that we have sponsored. AMAO, American Acquisition Opportunity, Inc. When we IPO'd AMAO as its main sponsor, we sought out to merge with a dynamic cash-flowing company that did not require a complicated or highly diluted financing as part of the D-SPAC process and which could thrive as a public company. Last June, AMAO announced a definitive merger agreement to merge with Royalty Management Corporation, whereas RMC would become a public company. As a reminder, RMC is a next-generation royalty company focused on expanding its current cash flow and revenue streams by identifying undervalued assets within sectors including natural resources, land, sustainability, controlled environment agriculture, and intellectual property, while constructively supporting the communities that those businesses operate in. Last December, AMAO filed its form. S-4 registration statement with the SEC in conjunction with the planned merger between AMAO and RMC and have since been working through the comments provided by the SEC. On May 4th, AMAO will file its amended form S-4 to update for December 31, 2022 numbers and to address questions and comments received from the SEC. Soon AMAO will file an updated S-4 further updating numbers as required by the SEC and addressing further comments and questions. Following the proposed DSPAC merger, American Resources will remain a shareholder and will liquidate its interest over time when it believes it maximizes value to all shareholders and stakeholders. Our unique platform of assets is in a great position to deliver what we believe are attractive returns and value to our shareholders, including our mining assets, our re-element technology division, as well as our American Metals Division, which we are in the process of strategic positioning within the electrified economy. Now I'll turn to our quarterly summary for American Resources. As a reminder, on January 31st of this year, the remaining amounts of the convertible notes in the amount of approximately $9.8 million was converted into approximately 9.4 million common shares of the company, extinguishing all future liabilities under the convertible notes. The only new debt we took on over the second quarter of 2023 was associated with the issuance of the tax exempt industrial development bond for the development of Wyoming County West Virginia mining complex. As of today, August 14th, 2023, our current shares outstanding are just over 78.2 million Class A common shares. Cash on hand at the end of the second quarter, 2023, was approximately $51.5 million. Over the second quarter, we were able to showcase our operational flexibility to where we were able to operate at slightly cash flow positive while driving our value creation mission forward. Lastly, it is probably worth reiterating, given the recent regional bank events, that all of our excess cash above FDIC limits are held in the top two U.S.-based banks. I'd now like to turn it over to call to Mark LaBerghetta for some additional comments. Mark?
spk07: Thanks, Kirk. I'd first like to applaud our team on another exciting quarter of continued execution in positioning all of our divisions within our end markets, while also leveraging our processing and groundbreaking refining technologies into new and exciting markets. We truly sit at a very interesting position with our ability to bring cost-competitive refining of critical minerals to our domestic market in the most environmentally safe and sustainable methods ever developed. At no point in our history has our business been better positioned to serve the markets we operate in and to capitalize on our broad asset base, our talent, and our ability to produce, process, and refine raw materials that are in very high demand. We are extremely excited about the opportunities for all of our entities, and we continue to execute on our strategic plan to unbundle assets to extract value and to better position each division for growth, capital allocation, and with separate operating teams.
spk06: Let's dive into some of these.
spk07: First, American carbon. I will first address the revenue shortfall for this past quarter. As global met carbon markets softened over the second quarter, we chose to idle carbon production. Over most of the second quarter, our customers became constrained when taking product due to port logistics and bottlenecks within the supply chain. We believe this was largely a result of the shift in China's and Australia's relationship around product sourcing, which created significant shifts within supply chains and the timing of product deliveries. Our ability to idle back production showcases our operational flexibility and also highlights that given our expansion around our re-element division, we do not want to take unnecessary risks associated with inventory expansion and rather focus on cost constraints. In other words, we chose not to run our minds just to build up inventory, but rather focus on value-creating initiatives such as re-element technologies, the closing of our tax-exempt bond, and potential divestitures of American carbon assets. We are seeing these short-term bottlenecks and logistic issues within the supply chain being resolved and believe carbon prices will respond accordingly over the near, medium, and long term. As such, we are beginning to look at restarting mining operations at our Carnegie mines in the near term to capitalize on market demand and pick up where we left off earlier in the quarter, where we were realizing some of our best fundamental production levels while executing on the vision of our American carbon team, including the development of Wyoming County coal to prepare for its operations next year. As Kirk just mentioned, we are in receipt of two letters of interest for all of the mining assets of American carbon and Perry County resources respectively, which provide us ample opportunities to execute on our mission to monetize our carbon assets to best benefit our shareholders. It's worth reiterating, our platform of carbon assets is unique given the significant mining infrastructure that we own, the quality of carbon that we produce and have access to, the restructuring efforts and investments we have made over the past several years to right-size and streamline the operations, Along with a substantial embedded organic growth, we have to provide incremental high-quality carbon products to the global markets. With the recent updates we have provided, I believe we are beginning to see the fruits of that labor materialize. And on a side note, we continue to see the industry drive consolidation, as evidenced by today's news of Cleveland Cliffs making a $7.25 billion bid for U.S. Steel. we feel that we're in great position with the assets that we own today. Re-element Technologies. As we frequently state, our Re-element Technologies division represents an incredibly exciting and very strategic opportunity for us. We've never been involved with an entity that in our opinion has a higher ceiling. As we continue to strategically position ourselves in the global supply chain for critical minerals, I think it is important to reiterate and emphasize our position within that market Re-Element is an innovative and advanced refining platform for critical minerals. While we believe we are a high-value component within the recycling value chain, we are not solely a recycling platform. However, we do believe our position in the recycling market and a sustainable supplier of critical minerals is highly important as we move towards a highly mineral-dependent electrified economy. That being said, and again, in our opinion, Recycling platforms alone are going to have a hard time bridging the gap to an end-of-life manufacturing scrap volumes materialized to levels that can support their CAPEX and OPEX fundamentals. That is where our innovative and distinctively different are distinctively different in how we are positioned. Our innovative and advanced refining methods using chromatography displaced the toxic conventional methods used in China and we believe is an important linchpin in making the United States competitive within the electrified economy. Deploying these conventional refining methods, such as solvent extraction or hydrometallurgical, here domestically will be very challenging. They are extremely expensive to build and operate due to the harsh chemicals, waste output, and maintenance. Can they separate and purify critical minerals? Yes. But there is a reason why most of these facilities are located in remote areas of Inner Mongolia. Our ability to refine a variety of critical mineral feedstocks from urgent ores, manufacturing scrap, end of life and unconventional sources in a low cost, low impact, modular and small footprint allows us to grow congruently with the market's needs. Meaning we spend less to produce ultra pure products. The world has never really needed innovation in critical mineral refining until now, or maybe we just became complacent with China's dominance of the market. And that is the value proposition of re-element technologies. The world needs advancements in refining these raw materials, and we believe we provide the most efficient solution. It's worth noting a few of our recent milestones at re-element as well. We recently achieved the production of ultra-pure lithium carbonate, which is needed in battery cathode manufacturing, verified by an independent third-party laboratory at 99.9978 purity. from LFP lithium iron phosphate battery manufacturing scrap at commercial scale. We believe we are the first that we know of to achieve this milestone worldwide, a very significant achievement. This achievement comes on top of us achieving a 99.986 pure lithium carbonate produced at commercial scale, which was recycling end of life LFP lithium ion batteries. What makes these milestones unique is our ability to effectively and very cost efficiently refine materials from LFP battery chemistries. Typically lithium in a lithium iron phosphate battery is very difficult to recover using conventional refining methods. Usually it's lost. And without the inherent cobalt and nickel that resides within NMC battery chemistries, it hasn't been remotely cost effective. We are able to flip the paradigm where actually LFP battery chemistry is more economical for us to refine, given our ability to quickly extract and capture the lithium at high purity. And as we see it from our perspective, the market, especially EV, is migrating more towards lithium iron phosphate batteries. We expect about 60% of the market will eventually migrate to LFP versus NMC battery chemistry, which puts us in a great strategic position. This is also why we are aggressively pursuing sourcing agreements for lithium spodumene ore, given how we technically are able to refine lithium. Obviously, Mark Jensen is currently pursuing such opportunities right now, and we look forward to communicating future developments on that front. We believe the opportunities to provide low-cost and environmentally safe lithium refining around the world in a collaborative manner to meet the needs of the energy storage market are abundant. We've had early success in developing partnerships such as the one we have established with our magnet and battery partners, which we have already announced, and we continue to have good success with several other pilot programs where we are fostering collaborative opportunities within the automotive, wind energy, consumer power tool, and broader energy storage and recycling markets. we are really excited and confident about developing these pilot programs into long-term commercial partnerships. The number of opportunities we are seeing to provide our next-generation advanced refining capabilities as a value-added service continue to accelerate. We're confident as we continue to showcase our competitive distinction, including performance, a lower cost structure, environmentalism, flexibility, and collaborative value, re-element technologies will garner significant value for our shareholders. I'd like to recognize our re-element team for the groundbreaking success that we've achieved to date. And in the quick timeframe, we have achieved it. We do believe that time is of the essence. We also believe as we put together the best team to continue to drive this revolutionary refining technology, And from a technical perspective, we believe we have the world's best chromatography experts and team behind our re-element division, whether it's from our university partners at or from Purdue, our engineering team that has had longstanding success developing and commercializing the foundations of our technology at Eli Lilly. We have and will continue to add top talent to further execute on our vision, as well as position re-element as a standalone company. and as a global refining leader. Our goal is to build Re-Elements into a multi-billion dollar business, and we believe we have the team and the line of sight to do just that. At American Resources, we'll continue to execute on our strategic plan. American Resources is focusing on its highest value opportunities, and we'll look to expand its asset base within the natural resources industry, utilizing cash generated from any asset sales, royalties, to acquire interest in high-value critical and rare earth mining assets that can feed our re-element technologies division to be refined in its cost-effective and environmentally sustainable method. In closing, we remain very confident in the positioning of all of our assets and the long-term value they provide to our shareholders. We remain hyper-focused on unlocking that value. We have ample liquidity and do not foresee foresee us needing to issue equity at the AREC, American Resources, level to raise cash, especially with some of the sources of non-dilutive capital that we have available. Just to reiterate, as the largest shareholders of American Resources, our management team is committed to maximizing the value of all of our businesses and believe our continued execution and the unbundling of certain assets will help us achieve that. With that, I'd like to turn the call back over to the moderator for questions and answers.
spk01: At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press the star and 1 on your telephone keypad. You may remove yourself from the queue by pressing star and 2. Once again, to ask a question, please press the star and 1. And we'll take our first question from Mike Niehauser. Your line is open.
spk05: Hey, Mark. Interesting press release as always. Just a couple of questions for you. I'm not quite sure I understand the reduction in revenues on the carbon side, but it sounds like it just made a lot of sense in order to, you know, not, you know, to be able to maintain a positive cash flow. And my interest, my curiosity, I'm curious if if you're flexible enough to do that or if there's any degradation to the assets by such a significant swing in pausing production or slowing.
spk07: Hey, Mike. Well, first, appreciate your questions and all of your support. Hope you're doing well. Yes, thank you. The first answer on the degradation of assets, no, we don't believe there's any degradation. Um, I think from how we're positioned within all of our businesses, um, and we look at the, the overall platform, um, and taking a conservative approach for the business. And, and, and as I mentioned earlier on the call, um, we weren't just going to produce through a, what we view as a, as a blip in the supply chain. Um, given we're, you know, we're relatively in the, on the global landscape, we're a relatively small producer of met coal met carbon. our customer base is somewhat limited. And we have good customers. However, we weren't going to sacrifice the overall execution of all of our platforms, including ReElement Technologies, just to put inventory on the ground. Our customer, our main customer, became constrained just given some of the supply chain dynamics. So we chose not to overextend ourselves dial back on production, focus on continued execution. We continued to assess a variety of options that came out in front of us. We executed an LOI to sell our demining complex. As we just mentioned, we've received multiple LOIs on all of our assets. We closed on our Wyoming County tax exempt bond issuance. So our execution was still head down, driving forward. but from a capital standpoint and from an overall risk profile, we weren't just going to spend a bunch of money to put inventory on the ground just given the execution that we continue to have on the re-element side of the business. I hope that makes sense for you.
spk05: Absolutely. Thanks for the answer. Sorry just to dive into the question. So it sounds like you've got the flexibility where you can do that between the Carnegie Mines and etc., And it's interesting that there's just a flurry of activity between Dean and Perry and Wyoming County and these LOIs. What sparked all those things to come to a head this quarter? Is it just coincidence or a lot of these things been worked on for six to 12 months? Or is there something in the environment that's causing this to happen right away? The reason I'm asking is I'm going to try to get an indication of where you're going with this side of the business. I'll be quiet. You can answer.
spk07: Sure. Yeah.
spk05: Well, I think it's, you know, you can read between the lines.
spk07: I don't think it's a secret. I think we're, as we've said, we're steadfast and focused on monetizing our assets. And that includes selling of specific assets or all of those assets. I think the closing of the tax exempt bond issuance or fully capitalizing that as one of the last virgin boundaries of mid-vol met carbon in the Appalachian region is brought back some parties to take a better look at our carbon platform. Additionally, we press release that we received an unsolicited bid coming out of the gate post the closing of that bond issuance. I think that had people that were kicking the tires on the platform of looking at certain assets to get more aggressive with them. And you've seen it, you know, you've seen it in the marketplace today. And that's why I mentioned earlier on the call, the, uh, the cliffs bid for, uh, for us deal. I think, you know, where we sit in this cycle of the, of the commodity cycle is, um, you know, folks are very focused on, uh, supply chain resiliency, um, sourcing their, their, their feedstocks for global steel production and vertically integrating. Cliffs has done a great job of it. They're a great example and they continue to be aggressive in the market. I think that's part of it as well. I think it's a macro trend of producers in the global steel markets looking at vertically integrating their supply chain and sourcing material.
spk05: Well, I know that the quality of the Wyoming County is something else. And so I think that gives us kind of a clue as to how others might be looking at you for that supply chain resiliency. So that's another good answer, Mark. Also, before I forget, congratulations to Tarlis, really a competent, hands-on, big-picture guy. So I think this is great for him, but, you know, be careful what you want. And on to Shifty. Go ahead.
spk07: No. Appreciate that. I'm sure Tarlis appreciates that. And you've, like I said, we appreciate your interest. I know you've spent, you spent a good part of the day with Tarlis touring our assets. So, you know, he's the man.
spk05: Yeah. So, but on the lithium side, could you just define, I'm not the lithium guy at Roth, but what is manufacturing scrap for lithium? Is that from, I guess, what's left over on the cutting room floor at a battery plant?
spk07: Yeah, I think at a high level, the best way to explain it, and I said it earlier, from our perspective, we believe the energy storage market, and it depends on the application, whether it's just general energy storage, electric vehicles, small power tools or things like that. Everybody uses a different battery. Your cell phones use an LCO typically, or your laptop uses an LCO battery chemistry. EVs have kind of been a mix between uh nmc nickel manganese cobalt and uh an lsp lithium iron phosphate um it's migrating more towards lfp in our opinion just given the uh you don't you don't need the the nickel cobalt which are high price commodities that go into the chemistries of an nmc lithium iron phosphate the lithium is is is relatively valuable iron phosphate carries less of a value, so the inputs on that. The difference between the two is the energy density. NMC can carry a higher energy density, but as we state, battery technology continues to evolve at a rapid pace, and you're starting to see good energy density in LFP. It provides a little bit better safety characteristics as well. So the market is migrating more towards that as the energy density, safety, and less expensive feedstocks that go into the production of an LFP battery chemistry. So you've seen Tesla announce LFP gigafactories, Ford and the like. EV is definitely migrating more towards an LFP battery chemistry. And when you're manufacturing cathodes or, uh, uh, or batteries, there's a lot of waste. Um, it's a messy process. Um, you know, when you, when you, when you spray coat your, your cathode material, you trim it for sizing. Uh, there's a lot of waste in the process. I think it's estimated there's about 20% waste currently. I know a battery manufacturers want to reduce that, um, But my understanding is they'll never get to zero. And trimming it to very low levels is going to be very hard just given the inherent capability. So there's a lot of scrap material that goes into the process. Our ability to take that scrap and recycle it back into high purity forms, having the ability to moduli and co-locate with certain parties gives us a very strategic advantage of when you're looking at domestic manufacturing because logistics matter, input prices matter, and we're able to reduce that, able to do it in a collaborative manner to reduce the cost structure for everybody. And that's key when we're competing head-to-head with China and the Asia-Pacific region on shoring manufacturing.
spk05: So this goes along with the theme of that you can pretty much take not anything, but pretty much anything, and regardless of what kind of waste it is from different kinds of batteries, in conditions, sprayed, left out in the rain, whatever it is, if you have a basic understanding of your feedstock, you're able to purify it so that minimal amount as possible goes to the dump. I think that's what I'm taking away here. You just proved that you can do it. Just a matter of finding the right partner at the right place and so much. So that's what I draw out of that.
spk07: You're right. Auto manufacturers are highly focused on all of that, reducing the total amount of waste that come out from any of their production. Our ability to do that, we provide very efficient solutions for that problem. Our strategic positioning of being able to handle LFP, LFP is more cost effective for us. Typically in the recycling process, you can only go after NMC because you need that nickel cobalt value to justify your cost structures. For us, it showcases how low our cost structure is. We can extract the lithium very effectively, very cost, you know, efficiently in a low cost matter and very high purity form. at commercial scale from LFP battery chemistry. Again, we're the only ones that we know that have been able to showcase that.
spk05: OK. So along those lines, you've got a shipment of spodumene coming from Africa. How soon do you think you're going to be able to tackle that? And is that going to kick off marketing to lithium mining companies as they seek to upgrade their lithium with maybe what could become a standardized process in the industry?
spk07: Yeah, it's a good question. I think timing is always hard to predict, just given counterparties' timelines. But what I think you can take away from it is our ability to refine lithium very effectively from manufacturing a scrap or end-of-life, whether it's LFP or NMC, or if the feedstock input is is ore-based, virgin spodumene ore, it really doesn't differ from a technology perspective. It's very, very similar from a cost structure and purity perspective. We look forward to communicating our milestones of purifying lithium coming from natural occurring ores. We have our process lined out. We know what our technology capabilities are. Um, we're fine tuning those today, and I think we'll be in a position here in the short term to communicate, um, those milestones. And then, right. As, as you think about it, I think, um, well, it hasn't been, it's already begun. The reason Mark Jensen's not on the call today is because he's visiting some of our partners and looking to expand some of our partnerships abroad. to source those raw materials, those natural lithium-based ores to bring in. And again, it showcases our technological advantages of purifying that lithium ore into high-purity carbonate or hydroxide form, what the battery industry really needs.
spk05: Well, just a question for modeling for me. As far as like either revenues, et cetera, on the re-element side with the rare earths or the lithium with what you just mentioned, or with the carbon assets, with everything that's going on there, gnarling activity there, should we just assume that, you know, it's market dependent production there and as you move closer to be able to start Wyoming County in earnest. There's going to be a couple quarter slump in revenues as things come back into place and you sort out some of these sale agreements. It looks like there's a lot going on.
spk07: There is a lot going on. I think from the press release today, I think there's some decent value that we've tried to showcase that the market is putting on our carbon assets, right? We talked about earlier on the call and in the press release, you know, we believe our platform of carbon assets is very attractive given the hard work and restructuring efforts that we've taken place. And I think the market is looking at that as a valuable asset, a very valuable growth asset, you know, we're seriously considering all options. But I think the fact that we put that on the front page, we're moving towards certain divestiture options. But again, we're only going to make decisions that are in the best benefit of our shareholders.
spk05: Meanwhile, how soon could Wyoming County move into something respectable as a startup? startup of the existing infrastructure with the additional opportunities, et cetera?
spk07: Yeah, we've started some of that early development over at Wyoming County. I think, you know, sometime next year we would be in position to start getting some development production started over there.
spk05: Meaningful. Yeah, okay. And as far as, like, revenues from re-element or the lithium, too early to tell when we might start seeing revenues?
spk07: we're, I think some, one thing to consider as this entire infrastructure here in the United States gets stood up, right? There's very little that's being produced today. There's not a whole lot of magnet manufacturing that's being produced in the United States, but, uh, we're partnered. We have partners with two of, uh, you know, the three we've heard of a fourth, um, with grand plans to, uh, to put magnet manufacturing here in the United States. We're in discussions with them. But currently today, very little rare earths manufacturing happens. Same with gigafactories here for energy storage and battery production. So we continue to stockpile product. We continue to run our pilot programs where you've been at our facility, we're running our facility much more frequently in a batch process. A lot of times we're taking that purified product and showcasing it back to our potential partners or pilot program partners that we're nurturing into full commercial partnerships. We think that's more valuable than dropping a few kilograms into the marketplace. you know, showcasing the efficacy of our technology and putting up really sound commercial partnerships is probably what suits us best currently.
spk05: Yeah, well, inquiring minds want to know. But one last question, and I'm sorry for hogging the Q&A, but could you just make a couple comments about your facilities? It looks like things are starting to take shape as far as capacity and co-locating, and I'll just step off the call. But thank you for taking my questions.
spk07: Yeah, well, we currently, as we've talked about in the past, our Noblesville, Indiana facility is currently running. It's really an R&D center, but just given the technological advantages of chromatography, we can actually run good throughput through that facility. We've talked about our expansion up in Marion, Indiana, 42-acre campus, building that out with much larger scale capacity initially. Initially, we'll look to build that capacity out of 2,000 tons of output of pure rare earth oxides per annual, as well as... How many tons did you say? 2,000 tons of purified rare earth oxides per year on the rare earth side and on the critical minerals side. Again, it's a little bit harder to... to model on the battery side of things based off of the variety of inputs, the quality of the inputs, the different chemistries of the inputs. But we're building that out to be about a 5,000 per year of high purity lithium carbonate, 5,000 tons. And a third of that was, let's just say recycled NMC, Um, chemistry from a black mass perspective, from an input that would equate to about, uh, 3,000 to 3,500 tons of a mixture of nickel and cobalt sulfates. Um, and then we currently are looking at, um, advancing, um, lithium pre-processing, uh, in, uh, in Eastern Kentucky.
spk05: Right. Thank you. Don't forget that. Okay, well, I'm done. And congratulations. Things are actually starting to take shape. Continue to do so. Thanks, Mark.
spk01: And as a reminder, that is star and one to ask a question. We'll take our next question from Michael Samuels with Fisher. Your line is open.
spk04: Yeah, Mark, I just have a couple questions. Number one, when I was looking at your – current quarter, why was your cost of wholesale and processing, it went up almost a million dollars this quarter, but yet our sales went down 14 million. So how was that so high? That was one thing. And the other question I had, another question I have too is, you announced the buyback some time ago. Did we buy any shares back in the last, you know, this year so far?
spk07: Two points. Kirk, you want to maybe jump in on the cost of coal processing?
spk02: Yeah. And so it's a timing aspect related to when you capture inventory costs, when you take it off of your balance sheet and expense it through the P&L when the coal is sold through. Then we should see that evening out over the next quarter. Our coal shipments are fairly chunky. So if you have one large shipment the day before or the day after the quarter, they can provide some more impactful inventory cost swings. So as you look at that over three, six, nine, 12 months, you get more of an even picture. Regarding the share buyback, We did announce that to the Strategic Committee as one of the points that they brought up. As we discussed on the year-end earnings call, we did buy back shares during the end of 2022, but we have not disclosed or bought back any during 2023.
spk04: I mean, I'm looking, you know, you're saying you've got this letter of intent. and we've had letters of intent, letters of intent, and you're saying it could be worth like $3.83 a share, and I just so happen to be watching the stock in the after hour here, and the stock just continues to go down, down, down, down, down. And so at $1.60, you would think you would at least be looking at a buyback, you know, if you're going to get $3.83 from just the... And then the other question I had is, you also mentioned at the beginning of the call that we were going to spin off American Carbon... like one share for every two shares of American resources. But then we also, last year we were going to do the same with re-element. So why would we be spinning both sections off at a half a share each?
spk07: You want me to take that one, Kirk, or do you want to continue?
spk02: No, yeah. So again, as we've gone through the options to the strategic committee, each operating business does deserve to be a standalone public company. And so as we looked at building world-class major teams to run them, traction of talent, traction of customers, they do seem to deserve to be on their own. Once those are executed, American Resources would remain as a national public company and would give it the flexibility to execute on some opportunities that lie outside of the current operating business model. It would give it more flexibility to take on those opportunities. So again, as we progress in the business plans of those subsidiaries, each of them have a clear defined structure and message to the investment community as well as to workforce
spk07: and to customer base and so again the strategic committee and the board of management feel that they each deserve to be their own public company okay and the last question i can add in my i can add in on that too it's you know each separate entity we would we would capitalize you know american carbon differently than we would american or excuse me uh re-element technologies those those things would look differently just given the markets that they that they operate in um and the opportunities that they have in front of them. They probably also carry a different multiple in the public market as well. Hence, the reason to drive forward with that on bundling of assets to extract that value. We think both of them carry different multiples as well. So capital allocation for growth, multiples in the public marketplace, And then separating it from an operational and governance perspective as well makes a lot of sense to do so. And then where American resources would sit post that potential split or divestiture of any of the carbon assets, American resources would continue to leverage the re-element refining just given that strategic advantage of refining critical minerals to be able to broaden the natural resource play again marks over in africa we're looking at a variety of different lithium plays again because we can refine lithium very cost effectively into high purity forms it's a hard element to refine right will you be able to get enough batteries Well, that's the unique thing. The opportunities we're exploring right now are for spodumene, which is natural occurring ore, right? Just like coal, just like iron ore or any other mine-based product. That is, again, strategically differentiates us because it helps us bridge that gap of when are all these batteries going to come to an end of life? Is it going to be five years from now, 10 years from now, 15 years from now? The recycling market is dependent on, you know, end of life or manufacturing scrap. But like I said earlier, nobody's producing a whole lot of things here in the United States yet. The mandate's been set, the capital's being deployed, infrastructure's being stood up, but manufacturing scrap isn't widely available in large volumes today. Getting our hands and access on high quality ores in the lithium market is very attractive for us. That helps us bridge that gap to when recycling takes on a much larger product mix or input mix of your feedstock.
spk04: Okay, then last question. It's been a while now since we applied for the re-element side, and I know you had questions back from the SEC, and I thought you answered them. So how far along are we on the spinoff of re-element right now?
spk07: Oh, time is relative, Mike, I think, you know, the reason why we announced it initially was from a strategic perspective, because having a really clean tech refining company embedded inside of a coal mining company, just call a spade a spade. There is some strategic advantages for us doing that some portfolio managers aren't allowed to buy, they want a piece of re element, but they can't buy it within American resources, but announcing that we have a planned spinoff maybe gives portfolio managers and there's some other strategies that makes a whole lot of sense of from other aspects within the supply chain in developing commercial partnerships and looking at different government-based incentives or grants opportunities as well. So there's a reason why we announced it maybe early in the process, because we wanted to be on record of this is our plan.
spk04: So have we gotten the clearance if we wanted to go forward?
spk07: Kirk, do you want to?
spk02: Yeah, I think at this point we're now getting discussion with SEC and we're trying to maximize shareholder and strategic value along that process. We wanted to make sure that it is a proper public company and not just spun out just for the sake of spinning out. So we really want to go through the process, keep our options open, and get it to this point of being actionable when the value is there to act upon. That's probably as far as we want to go. I don't want to get into if we have one comment or no comments or so forth. Right.
spk07: And I've always, Mike, I've always also said, you know, repeatedly when you've talked to me in the past or I've talked is, you know, the spin out of re-element is, you know, A, strategic, but B, it's not, we like to execute on things quickly, right? And I think we've showcased our ability to do so. But in regards to the re-element spin off, it's not, Speed is not the primary objective here. I think if speed were the primary objective, we could separate re-element and let it drop off into the public market and let the public market figure out how to value it. Or we can help investors hit the easy button by discovering value through the capital raising process through strategic partnerships. Okay.
spk04: No, I understand. Okay. Thank you.
spk07: Thank you. We appreciate it.
spk01: And as a reminder, that is star and one to ask a question. And we'll pause a moment to allow further questions to queue. And we'll take our next question from Stephen Siegel with KBB Asset Management. Your line is open.
spk03: Hey, Mark. The question I was going to ask was just answered, but I was just wondering, I know you talked a lot about lithium so far on this call. Has there been any new things or new developments in the magnet area as far as partnerships?
spk07: On the magnet side of things or on the lithium?
spk03: Yes, magnet side.
spk07: We continue to have very strong pilot programs in our pipeline today where We intake a variety of feedstocks from large powerful manufacturers, auto OEMs. We continue to showcase the efficacy of our technology, showcasing what we're able to do in providing sustainable sources back into their supply chain of those critical raw materials. there continues to be progress and developments made. We just haven't gotten to a point yet where we're able to publicly announce them by name. Um, but we're getting, I would say we're getting closer, um, on the magnet side. I think one thing to also highlight Steve is the flexibility of our platform allows us to look at, you know, from looking at different feedstocks, our ability to take the entire, um, powertrain of an EV and recycle it back into high purity sustainable products is differentiated as well. So our ability to take the motor and magnets out of an EV, recycle them back, gives us the ability to talk to OEM's battery team as well and vice versa. Rather than just looking at we're a battery recycler and we can only handle NMC battery chemistries, we have a much broader an appealing proposition from an auto's perspective, I would say, to look at. But, you know, we continue to drive those pilot programs forward with what we feel is a high degree of success. And, yeah, we look forward to communicating those milestones when we're able to.
spk03: Okay. And then the other question is, I'm not sure, like, as far as the, sorry about that, as far as the LOI goes for the, for the whole seal. Is there some type of timeframe on that? Because in the meantime, you still have to progress and get Carnegie reopened when you can and get Wyoming starting, right?
spk07: Yeah, I think that's why we've We talked about both paths forward, right? We're not just not going to hang our hat on one path. We need to drive our execution forward from an operational standpoint as far as developing Wyoming County, getting our Carnegie Mines back up and running when we feel the market is solidifying. I did mention earlier on the call that our customer base is fairly narrow. We're working on broadening our our customer base as well there. So we continue to drive that execution forward while we explore other alternative avenues as well, like divesting the entire platform or pieces of the platform.
spk03: Right. Okay. Thank you.
spk07: Thank you. Appreciate it.
spk03: Appreciate you guys.
spk01: And once more, that is star and one to ask a question. We'll pause a moment to allow additional questions to queue. And it appears that we have no more questions at this time. I'll turn the program back to the speakers for any additional or closing remarks.
spk07: I'd like to thank everyone for your interest in American Rhesus and your time you took out of your busy schedules to participate in today's call. We look forward to executing on your behalf and communicating with you in the near future. Thanks again.
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