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spk06: Good evening and welcome to Array Technologies' first quarter 2021 earnings conference call. Today's call is being recorded and we have allocated one hour for prepared remarks and Q&A. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Cody Mueller, Investor Relations for Array Technologies. Thank you. You may begin.
spk03: Good evening and thank you for joining us on today's conference call to discuss Array Technologies' first quarter 2021 results. During this conference call, Management will make forward-looking statements based on current expectations and assumptions, which are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially from our forward-looking statements if any of our key assumptions are incorrect because of other factors discussed in today's earnings press release and the comments made during this conference call or in our latest reports and filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, each of which can be found on our website, arraytechinc.com. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statements. Today's presentation also includes references to non-GAAP financial measures. You should refer to the information contained in the company's first quarter press release for definitional information and reconciliations of historical non-GAAP measures to the comparable GAAP financial measures. With that, let me turn the call over to Jim Fusaro, Array Technologies CEO.
spk08: Thanks, Cody, and good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining our earnings call. In addition to Cody, I'm joined today by Nipal Patel, our Chief Financial Officer, and Jeff Krantz, our Chief Commercial Officer. I'm going to focus my remarks today on three areas. First, how our first quarter results compared to our expectations. Second, how we see demand evolving for our products. And third, the current commodity and shipping cost environment, how it impacts array, and the actions we are taking in response. Then I'll turn it over to NEPL for a detailed review of our first quarter results. Revenues for the first quarter of 2021 were $246 million, which was in line with our expectations. Adjusted EBITDA was $34.5 million, which was slightly below expectations, primarily as a result of higher logistics costs resulting from unexpected increases in inbound freight costs. Demand for our products remains strong, with quoting activity at the highest levels we have seen in our history. We believe the superior value that our tracker system delivers is being recognized by a growing number of EPCs, developers, and asset owners globally, and is underscored by the up to four gigawatt award that we recently received from Primorus, one of the largest solar EPCs in the U.S., as well as the 350 megawatts of awards we received from nine international customers during the first quarter. Increasing panel efficiency, falling storage costs, and growing regulatory support are expanding the lead that solar has over other conventional generation and other renewables, more than ever before solar energy is becoming the first choice for new generation. Unfortunately, at the same time, As we are seeing record demand for solar, our industry is contending with increases in steel and shipping costs that are unprecedented both in their magnitude and rate of change. From the first quarter of 2020 to the first quarter of 2021, the spot price of hot rolled coil steel, the primary raw material used in our products, has more than doubled. Many industry analysts and market participants expected the dramatic increase in the price of steel to be temporary, which was reflected in futures markets that had indicated lower steel prices for the second half of the year throughout most of the first quarter. Based on those expectations, we felt confident in our ability to manage our input costs and maintain our margins. However, steel prices have continued to increase with spot prices of hot-rolled coil up more than 10% since April 1st. and futures now indicate higher rather than lower steel prices for the remainder of the year. Steel represents almost half of our cost of goods sold, and we do not hold large amounts of steel in inventory. So a significant increase in the price of steel over a short period of time can negatively impact our results. Coinciding with the increase in steel prices has been substantial increases in the cost of both ocean and truck freight. The average cost to ship a container from Asia to the West Coast has increased by more than 145% from April 2020 to April 2021. There also remains significant disruption across several U.S. ports, resulting from the April Suez Canal accident and the February Texas storm, which has resulted in higher storage and expediting costs that we would not otherwise have had in a normal environment. The cost of truck freight has also increased significantly with the average cost per mile in the first quarter of 2021 up more than 30 percent versus last year, and costs have continued to increase in the second quarter. The continued increases in both steel and freight costs will impact our margins in Q2 and potentially in subsequent quarters if prices do not normalize. In response, we are taking several actions to mitigate the impact on the balance of the year. First, we are increasing prices. For open contracts that we have not yet shipped product against, we are currently evaluating how much of the commodity and shipping cost increases to pass on to our customers. We will make those determinations based on the specifics of each customer and situation. Given that seal prices continue to increase and the large number of open contracts that we have, it will take time for us to evaluate each contract and determine the best course of action. The exercise is complicated because we have to balance the possibility that customers will delay orders if we pass through too much of the increase in steel prices on the basis that they may believe prices will be lower if they wait and take their order later in the year. The two-year extension of the ITC has given customers more flexibility on when they start their projects than they had in the past. Second, we are entering into long-term supply agreements with steel suppliers at fixed prices. For example, we recently entered into an agreement with Nucor to supply us with steel components at a fixed price. Third, we are further diversifying our steel supply base. For example, we recently entered into a supply agreement with a new international steel supplier at what we believe is an attractive price given the current environment. Fourth, We are entering into long-term contracts with Tier 1 freight providers to give us greater certainty on logistics costs and delivery performance. And fifth, we are extending the standard order lead times that we quote to customers to give us more time to procure raw material at the best price. However, given the continuing increases we are seeing in steel and freight costs, as well as our ongoing review of open contracts to assess what costs we will pass on to customers, we are not able to affirm our previously provided guidance for the full year. We expect to update our guidance once we have completed the review of all of our open purchase orders and commodity and shipping prices remain stable for a long enough period of time to give us confidence in using them to develop a forecast for the remainder of the year. Importantly, we believe our competitors are being impacted by the same cost increases that we are experiencing, and in certain cases, much more significantly because their smaller size gives them less buying power with suppliers. We believe the near-term pressure that is being created by the current environment may enable us to accelerate our market share gains because some of our competitors may not be able to deliver on customer commitments given their inability to to procure raw materials at a competitive price or at all. We're in an environment where scale and deep supply chain relationships are significant competitive advantages, and we have both. Now I will turn it over to Nipal for review of our first quarter results.
spk07: Thanks, Jim. Before I talk about our first quarter results, it is important to keep in mind that our 2020 results were heavily first-half weighted as a result of our customers seeking to lock in the 30% ITC prior to its step-down at the end of 2019. This caused our customers to place the bulk of their orders in the back half of 2019 and then take deliveries in the fourth quarter of 2019 and first two quarters in 2020. As a result, comparing a single quarter in 2021 to the same quarter in 2020 is not indicative of the trajectory of our business since the ITC step-down skewed revenues in 2020 to Q1 and Q2. I'll now review our first quarter results. Revenues for the first quarter decreased 44% to $245.9 million compared to $437.7 million for the prior year period, primarily driven by a reduction in the amount of ITC Safe Harbor-related shipments that I discussed earlier. Gross profit decreased 63% to $43.9 million compared to $118.4 million in the prior year period, driven primarily by lower volume in the quarter. Gross margin decreased from 27% to 18%, driven by less revenue to absorb fixed costs, somewhat lower ASPs compared to the 2020 safe harbor shipments, higher input costs, due primarily to higher steel prices and higher freight costs, resulting in part from disruptions caused by the winter storm in Texas, as well as West Coast port closures and congestion. Operating expenses increased to $30.8 million compared to $17.1 million during the same period in the prior year, primarily as a result of a $6.2 million increase in equity-based compensation due to the transition to being a public company 2.4 million of one-time costs related to our common stock follow-on offerings, higher costs associated with being a public company, and an increase in headcount to support our product development and international growth initiatives. Net income was 2.9 million compared to 73.7 million during the same period in the prior year, and basic and diluted income per share were 2 cents compared to basic and diluted earnings per share of 61 cents during the same period in the prior year. Adjusted EBITDA decreased 69% to $34.5 million compared to $110.7 million for the prior year period. Adjusted net income decreased 71% to $23.7 million compared to $82.3 million during the same period in the prior year. and adjusted basic and diluted adjusted net income per share was 19 cents compared to 69 cents during the same period in the prior year. Total executed contracts and awarded orders at March 31st, 2021 was $777.1 million, representing a 10% increase from the amount at December 31st, 2020. Turning to our outlook. As Jim mentioned earlier, Given the continuing increases we are seeing in steel and freight costs, as well as our ongoing review of open contracts to assess what costs we will pass on to our customers, we are not able to affirm our previously provided guidance for the full year. Looking ahead to the second quarter, we expect commodity price increases to delay some project starts, which will result in lower revenues and adjusted EBITDA versus the first quarter. Now I'll turn it back over to Jim for some closing remarks.
spk08: Thanks, Nipal. I'll conclude by saying, despite the short-term headwinds we face from commodity and shipping cost increases, we remain well positioned in a rapidly growing industry. The outlook for solar remains very strong. Businesses and consumers continue to accelerate their efforts to decarbonize energy. The regulatory environment is extremely constructive, and solar with trackers has demonstrated it is the lowest cost and most environmentally friendly form of new generation. We have built strong relationships with our customers and suppliers, and we will continue to work daily with them to ensure that we can continue to support the growth in the solar industry while striving to deliver strong returns for our shareholders. We believe that what we are seeing in steel prices and shipping costs is temporary and does not suggest to us a permanent change in our cost structure or margins. We believe there is more than sufficient steel production and shipping capacity globally to meet the world's needs, and we expect prices will normalize once the restart of the global economy is complete following the pandemic shutdowns. As inventory is rebuilt and supply chains refilled, we are confident we will see more rational pricing ahead. In the meantime, we will aggressively work our mitigation efforts and look for opportunities to use the current environment to play offense by leveraging our size and scale. We believe we will emerge stronger competitively when conditions normalize than when we entered into the current environment. And with that, operator, open the line for questions.
spk06: Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad, and a confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants that are using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question is from the line of Brian Lee with Goldman Sachs. Please receive your question.
spk01: Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe first one, just I feel like a lot of people are going to have this question, but on the open contract construct, can you walk us through that a little bit more in detail? I was under the impression that, you know, once you accept the PO, you go straight into the market or quickly thereafter and order the required materials so that you have a bit of a natural hedge against input cost increases. You know, I would have imagined you would have – factored in logistics costs at the same time that you're pricing these contracts. So could you maybe just refresh us on the timeline of you setting a price with the customer and then when you order from your supply chain and kind of what the mismatch is here?
spk08: Yeah. Hi, Brian. So the typical cycle time is when you go into a customer negotiation and The contract negotiation typically can take anywhere from four to six weeks, depending on the size complexity of the project, how much engineering work is done up front. And that's when you kind of settle on a bill of materials. That's when we would kind of do the outreach to our supply chain to get indicative quotes in order to support the quoting activity, which ultimately we give to the customer. So, in normal conditions, you know, when you have stable commodities, we would be giving indicative quotes that were obviously relatively stable to what the futures were looking like, so we could pretty much nail that down, and obviously there was triggers per contract per customer on any prior or existing cost escalations that one might see with commodities. But given the rate of increase that we have seen, so for example, since April 1st, commodities hot-rolled coil is up 10 percent and still continues to rise, That actually wasn't the case kind of early on, if you go back to maybe like early April. So, we were giving prices, and futures were actually pointing down. So, we felt confident in our ability to give a price. They would go back, they'd factor that in. By the time you get to a contract where you're close to signing, we saw that in some cases prices went up, but still looked like futures were going down. You give them a price increase, and then lo and behold, you'd execute to the PO, and by the time you would solidify with your suppliers, there'd be subsequent increases. So it's that lag or shall I say that lead time between when you agreed upon a price and or subsequent price increases to when you actually close and then we negotiate with our suppliers that you were seeing a rapid increase in the commodities that impacted obviously our cogs. So that's kind of the mechanics and a brief timeline overview of how it's working with us.
spk01: Okay, that's super helpful. Maybe just as we think about the rest of the year here, you're saying that there's definitely an impact on Q2. It sounds like on margins, and then as you contemplate how to do some of the mitigation factors, including price, it sounds like you're worried that some volume might slip into a later period outside of 21, hence why the guidance isn't being reiterated here. I guess what's the sort of volume level that you still have which you would consider in that open contract phase where you are sort of at risk of either not being able to secure the volume or you're going to potentially have to take a margin hit relative to what you initially were thinking when you first quoted the contracts. Just trying to get a sense of how much of the backlog, awarded orders, volume might actually be at play here. And then I have one last follow-up.
spk08: Yeah, Brian. Yeah, thanks, Brian. I'll put it in a different context. We've got roughly about 100 or so open contracts that we're currently assessing. So there's a lot of analytics that we have to run through. So we've got price, which you mentioned, long-term supply agreements, which we obviously announced recently here with Nucor. We continue to diversify the supply chain. which when you do that, right, you build in an element of logistics. What does that cost? And then the freight agreements that we're executing, too, because in as much as we want to lock down our suppliers on the commodity element, we want to do the same thing with freight. And then extending lead times for our customers. So, when you factor in price and lead times, commercial team has to work with our customer to see what appetite they have, where that stands with relative to the project within their time horizon. Does it move to the right? How far to the right? So that's something that we're actually assessing, and I really can't give you an exact answer on where it is, and that's why we have to really sit down and go through these analytics to understand how much we can control within our own four walls and then the impact to our customer.
spk01: All right, fair enough. And then maybe just one last housekeeping one, and I'll pass it on. There was a $10 million line item called Investment in Equity Securities on the cash flow statement this period. Could you – elaborate on what that was, just hadn't seen that before.
spk07: Yeah, and hey, Brian, it's Naples. How are you? So this is what we had talked about in our Q4 call. We did take an investment in a company, and that's what that represents.
spk01: Okay, thank you. Appreciate it, guys.
spk06: Our next question is coming from the line of Michael Weinstein with Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.
spk12: Hi, guys. Thanks for the questions. You know, what's your decision-making process for not hedging steel, you know, using, let's say, financial hedges going forward? You know, you're talking about locking in a fixed-price contract with Nucor at this point, but, you know, why not hedge what you think the volume will be for the next year?
spk07: Yeah, hey, Michael, this is Naples. So in the past, that has not been our strategy. We have been working with our suppliers to – and let them take that risk on. And when commodities were within a certain band, that was okay to do. We're open, and we'll be looking at other methods in the future on securing supply for a longer term.
spk12: Why not give revenue guidance now? Is the supply chain tightness impacting project construction schedules to an extent that you can't give revenue guidance?
spk08: Yeah, Michael, I would just go back to what we were saying. You know, there's price that we're going to be extending to the customers new pricing. They have to digest that. Our lead times are going to extend with them. They'll have to factor that in as well. So really, those are the two elements that we're going to work and collaborate with our customer on to see what will stick, what won't. So it's far too early for us to really give any type of volume commitment here or guidance.
spk12: And just one last question. Do you have any recourse built into your contracts for existing deliveries? Like, is there anything, is there any wiggle room in your current contracts that allow you to pass along these costs or is it fixed?
spk08: Every contract is different. So, you know, there's some customers that will work with us on lead times relative to what buffer they put in their contract. So every one is different. There's typically a little bit of a headroom to work with. Everyone gives themselves a little bit of white space, if you will, on delivery. But given where logistics are today in the current environment, it becomes quite challenging.
spk06: Thanks. The next question is coming from the line of Paul Koster with JPMorgan. Please receive your question.
spk05: Yeah, good afternoon. This is Mark Strauss on for Paul. Thanks for taking our questions. Jim, I appreciate your comments about the futures market in the second half of this year. I'm just curious what you're hearing from your actual suppliers though. Are they looking to add any incremental capacity or anything like that that might lead to a different outcome?
spk08: They all have a different investment thesis and their demand profiles vary. You've got some out there that are supplying the automotive industry. others for more infrastructure-focused, structural, if you would. Demand remains relatively high across the board. At least this is what they're telling us. You'd have to do your own deep dive on what they're saying in their earnings releases. But, you know, for the balance of the year, at least what futures are indicating, they continue to rise. So that's indicative of the demand. To the extent they're going to add capacity, that's really how they're going to really deploy their capital, whether they're going to bring those furnaces and mills back up or not.
spk00: Okay.
spk08: And part of that, Mark, I think is Mark, correct? Yep. Mark, that's part of our analytics. When we deal with our suppliers in these long-term supply agreements, we're obviously looking for the commitment to support the capacity because one of the things that I want to press upon is as when we go into these supply agreements, we want to make sure that we're locking down the assurance of supply. And that's resonating with a number of our customers here.
spk05: Okay. And then as far as the balancing act between near-term financial impact and longer-term keeping your customers happy and potentially gaining share, I mean, looking at approximately or approaching 50% of your bill of materials that steal in those prices doubling, I mean, are you willing to accept very near-term at least kind of close to break-even or even negative gross margins in order to gain some share? Just any kind of color you can provide as far as near-term pain versus long-term gain would be helpful.
spk08: Yeah, I would preface it, Mark, by saying, first of all, the industry is still very healthy with respect to the growth and what solar does overall for new electricity generation. So the train has left the station there. But again, this is part of the analytics that we're driving here to really balance between these short-term projects, i.e., those 100 contracts or so that we're fleshing through versus their overall portfolio and where that lands. But I wish I could give you more color, but we just got to put pen to paper here and sit down with the customers and really flesh this out.
spk05: Yeah, yeah, makes sense. Okay, thanks, Jim.
spk06: Our next question is from the line of Stephen Bird with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.
spk09: Hey, thanks so much for taking my questions. I guess thinking about the nature of the contracts, you've given us a lot of color to think through. At a high level, I guess, stepping back, is there a chance that this kind of a commodity shock could result in sort of different structured contracts in the future, sort of fundamental changes in how contracts are structured? I know it's early days, but just curious, do you think this is something where, you know, you and your customers can sort of look at this and think through, you know, a different approach in the future in terms of how to mitigate these risks?
spk08: That's exactly what we're doing. These are the conversations we're having with the customer. I think what Nipal alluded to earlier, we have a very strong supply chain, very diversified, so we never really had to give that volume commit. So when you had times where commodities were somewhat normalized, that worked well. I think I even mentioned on the last earnings release that we certainly want to be working with our supply chain and firming it down. I'm not a Strong proponent of giving volume commits, but certainly in these times that's kind of where we're heading. Now, how that changes the contractual language, what that means, you know, for the customer and how that construct really comes forward, that's customer by customer, and that's exactly what we're doing here throughout the balance of the year.
spk09: Understood. And, you know, in some other parts of cleantech we've seen sort of ideas around shared pain and gain, and I'm guessing that could be at least one option that you could consider here as well.
spk08: Potentially.
spk09: Okay, understood. And then lastly, you had described in your prepared remarks a bit about sort of, you know, obviously this is impacting you, it's impacting competitors as well. Would you mind maybe just expanding a little bit on sort of how you assess your relative position compared to the competition? I know that's not always easy to fully know exactly where your competitors are, but, you know, given what you've seen, would you mind just adding a little bit more to that?
spk08: Yeah, and again, I emphasize it's our belief, and it's predicated on our size and scale and what we've shipped. And certainly when we sit down with the likes of a Nucor and others, they understand and recognize the value that we bring, and they're obviously willing to put pen to paper with respect to our performance. So our supply chain and how they are responding relative to our growth and this industry remains very positive. And certainly our size and scale And what we can deliver, what we have delivered, is being reflected by our customers, such as with Primorus on the recent press release. One of the attributes there and the strength that we have there is our ability to supply, is our ability to lock down some of these long-term supply agreements. So that's where our focus is, and we believe this is a strength for us going forward.
spk09: Understood. And so that could lead to potentially a shakeout where smaller players really are, to your point, they may not be able to provide the volume, might actually exit the business if they're feeling enough pain. I guess we'll have to stay tuned to see.
spk08: Yeah, I wouldn't speculate on that. I would just kind of point you back to where our strengths are and our demonstrated results.
spk09: Yep, very good.
spk00: Thank you very much.
spk06: Our next question is coming from the line of Colin Rush with Oppenheimer. Please receive your question.
spk13: Thanks so much, guys. Can you speak to the geographic concentration on the projects that are getting pushed out to the right? Is that primarily in North America, or are you starting to see that in Europe as well?
spk08: I would say, first of all, I'll have to get back to you with respect to the geographic impact, but certainly as we go through these contracts, I don't have that readily available right now, and that's going to be an an output of the analysis that we do run. And I could, I would say that we are, we are seeing that globally, especially in Western Europe as well.
spk13: Okay. That's super helpful. And then just, just in terms of kind of normalized seasonality, you know, you guys have a really good view on, on, you know, construction schedules and kind of how these timeframes work. And obviously there's some, you know, some, some inefficiencies here that you're speaking to, but just in terms of, you know, kind of overall demand and normalized seasonality, some of the basic supply chain issues. Are you seeing, you know, incremental growth this year in the way that you had anticipated? Or is it, you know, something that's a little bit more systemic here that may last a little bit longer around some of the seasonal impacts?
spk08: No, you know, I would go back to what I said earlier. The overall industry remains healthy and strong. We're not seeing, like, any serious dislocation long-term. Like I said, this is something that we see is rather short-term, and obviously we're going to assess that with our customer base, but not on a long-term basis. So hopefully I'm answering that question.
spk13: Okay. Thanks a lot, guys.
spk06: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Philip Shen with Roth Capital. Please receive your question.
spk11: Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions. First one's on the Nucor contract. Could you give us a little bit more detail? Sorry if I missed it, but perhaps the length of the contract and are you matching the Nucor contract with a customer contract, for example, and any other structures you might have there, including to what degree, when you lock in price, are you locked in at a discounted spot, at a premium spot, that kind of detail would be fantastic, thanks.
spk08: Yeah, unfortunately I can't get too much specifics surrounding that agreement because our size and scale and our ability to get these contracts is a competitive advantage. But I will tell you that it certainly is a discounted spot.
spk11: Great, okay, that's helpful. And then can you, from a length standpoint, Is it a year long or is it matched with a customer contract at all? Is that something you feel comfortable sharing, Jim? Thanks.
spk08: No, not at this juncture right now. Certainly, we obviously have obligations to confidentiality with Nucor, so I just want to respect that.
spk11: Okay, appreciate that. And then I know you've touched on this in a number of ways, but when you look at Q4, when you guys reported, that was just two months ago, And you talked about how much steel and freight have gone up in just one month, well, I guess since April, in the beginning of April over the past month. So what else, what other factors do you think drove you to remove the guidance for now? Was it just those two factors, or were there other factors? And if so, any color on that would be great.
spk08: Yeah, I would just go back to what we said here. I mean, really, it was the rate of increase. Again, like, if you look from since April 1st, the hot road coil is up 10 percent and it's still rising. And then if you look where it was same period last year, i.e., you know, first quarter of 20 to the first quarter of 21, it's up two times. It was really that rate of increase. And then to compound that, obviously, you look at what's happened with freight as of April 20 to April 21. Freight is up 145%, and that's all since really the beginning of April. So a lot has really changed. And then I would add on, if you look pretty much towards the beginning of April, futures were actually pointing down for steel in the second half. So that gave us a little bit of optimism. And then in short order, they have increased substantially. So a lot has changed just since April 1st. that has really caused us to really revisit, go back to price, go back to those long-term supply agreements, supplier diversity, getting long-term agreements now with freight carriers and extending those lead times. So that's really kind of those three pillars, if you would, that has really changed since the last time we spoke.
spk11: Okay, got it. And then from a seasonality standpoint, last quarter you talked about Q1 being 20% to 25%, Q2 being 25% to 30%, Q3 being the same, and then Q4 being 20% to 25%. I know Q2 is looking to be down now. Can you give any sense for what Q3 and Q4 might look like, or is it actually just not possible because you've got to review those 100 contracts?
spk08: Yeah, unfortunately, it's just the latter what you said there. It's really we have to go back to the customer with these prices. And, again, I remind you that we've already – gone through, shall we say, the phase one of price increases, so we have to sit down, what does the extended lead time really mean, and what do these continued increases in our cost and price mean? So we've got to vet that with our customers.
spk11: Okay. Thanks for taking all the questions all at that time.
spk06: The next question is coming from the line of Martin Maloy with Johnson Rice. Pleasure to see you with your questions.
spk14: Good afternoon. The first question I had on the international markets where you continue to add customers, are these markets where they previously were not using trackers, or are you gaining market share from customers that were previously using trackers?
spk02: Yeah, hi, Martin. It's Jeff Krantz here. A quick answer to your question. It's more of the latter. We're actually taking some share from some European tracker companies in markets that had already been established with trackers.
spk14: Okay. And then on the last call, um, and with the last earnings release, you talked about the R and D investments that you're going to be, that you were going to be making, um, ongoing here and anything to update us there in terms of timing of, of when we might see some, uh, new product introductions.
spk08: No, our investment continues on the R and D nothing material has changed from, uh, what we plan to roll out, and I would love to invite you out to come to our research center so you can see what we have planned.
spk14: That would be great. Those are my questions. Thank you.
spk06: Next question is coming from the line of Kashi Harrison with Simmons Energy. Please proceed with your questions.
spk10: Good afternoon. Thank you for taking the questions. So first one, Jim, just maybe just a really, really simple question. What's your base case on how long it's going to take for the business to normalize? Are you thinking we're back to normal 2022? Are you thinking we're back to normal 2023?
spk08: Oh, I wish I had the crystal ball on the futures for steel. No one seems to have gotten that one right, but... We're certainly going to work this as hard as possible to really understand what the impacts are, at least to ensure we can continue to execute here. But really, I'm not a savant when it comes to steel futures and what 22 looks like. But what we have pen to paper on right now is really making sure that we put the right agreements in place. both with our suppliers and freight forwarders, we can ensure the lead time and get the right price for our customers really to work through this hyperbolic increase in commodities as we're seeing.
spk10: Okay. I appreciate the honesty there. And then in terms of, you know, I know there were a few questions asked about these long-term agreements that you're thinking about entering into or you've entered into. Are there any concerns that, you know, when we do eventually emerge on the other side of this, that, you know, these contracts could actually make it difficult to, you know, to hit your long-term EBITDA margin target that you've outlined previously?
spk08: No, great question. The key there is making sure that you have key strategic suppliers and many of them so that you at least have some flexibility and ability to move should they go in either direction, i.e., the commodity market. And then, obviously, we work with our suppliers for the proper and appropriate off-ramps to manage accordingly.
spk10: Okay. And then, final one for me, if I could sneak one in. This one's for Nipal. Working capital represented a pretty meaningful use of cash during Q1. How are you thinking about it over the course of the rest of the year? Should we expect... working capital to represent a source of cash, or do you think it's going to continue to be a use of cash in Q2 through Q4? Thank you.
spk07: Yeah, hey, Kashi. So Q1, the reason it was a source was related to the linearity and the ITC order placements and the prepayments in Q4. So we fully expected that. As we ramp up for the build seasons here in Q2 and Q3, we expect a little bit of use, but then by full year, we expect it to be a total source of cash.
spk10: Okay, full year, total source, got it. Okay, thank you.
spk06: Our next question is from the line of Jeff Osborne with Cowan. Please proceed with your question.
spk04: Good afternoon, guys. Most of them have been asked, but a couple, I might have missed this, but you were referencing the open contracts in response to Brian's question. Are 100% of the contracts outstanding open, or is there a portion that are closed just due to the terms and conditions?
spk08: There's a portion that are closed, Jeff.
spk04: I assume it's not that meaningful, though, relative to the open, given the nature of the conversation. Is that fair?
spk08: That's a fair assessment.
spk04: Okay. And then a couple for NEPL. I was wondering if you can comment on what the comparison was, safe harbored revenue from Q1 of last year, just as you flagged the year-over-year tough comps. Is there a way you can quantify that?
spk07: Yeah, sure. So Q1 of 2020, we had about $300 million of safe harbor shipments. And in Q1 2021, this current quarter, it was about $100 million.
spk04: Got it. And then how should we think about the OPEX trajectory from here? It came in a little bit higher than I was modeling, at least. Is this a good run rate for the rest of the year, or as you're still building out the team internationally in the new Phoenix center? should that continue to rise?
spk07: We expect it to be in the range of this quarter. As we continue to invest, it'll be a slight rise, but it'll be in this range of the current quarter.
spk04: Perfect. And then just two quick ones on the steel side. Is there any perspective you can give in terms of lower steel usage in terms of pounds or kilograms per unit over time? Is there an ability to take steel out of the unit? That's question one. And then question two on the steel front is, is there inflation on the galvanization of the steel? So I think the 50% comment was the raw steel, but I wasn't sure in terms of your suppliers that are then galvanizing the steel for you. Is there cost inflation there as well?
spk08: Yeah, Jeff, the galvanization is inclusive to the metric that we gave you surrounding costs. And then to your former question surrounding alternative materials, lighter, yeah, that's part of our DNA when it comes to value engineering. We're always looking for opportunities to improve our bill of materials, making it more cost effective.
spk04: Perfect. That's all I have. Thank you.
spk06: Thank you. At the time of each end of our question and answer session, I'll turn the floor back to management for closing remarks.
spk08: Thank you, and thank you, everyone. I'll just go back to the prepared remark for the concluding statement here, and that is the headwinds we face from these commodity and shipping cost increases, we definitely feel we're well prepared and positioned and are executing to the plans that we have outlined, and solar remains to be very strong. We continue to build relationships with our customers and supplier, and we're going to continue to work with them on a daily basis. So with that, we're fully committed. We certainly appreciate your time. And with that, I'll turn it back to the operator to close.
spk06: Thank you. This will conclude today's conference.
spk08: Thank you for your participation.
spk06: You may now disconnect your lines at this time.
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