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spk04: Hello, and welcome to today's conference call to discuss Algoma Steel's fiscal third quarter 2024 financial results. My name is Paul, and I'm your operator for today's call. At this time, I'd like to hand the call over to Mike Moraca, Treasurer and Investor Relations Officer for Algoma. Mr. Moraca, please go ahead.
spk06: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Algoma Steel Group Inc.' 's third quarter fiscal 2024 earnings conference call. Leading today's call are Michael Garcia, our Chief Executive Officer, and Rajat Marwa, our Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, this call is being recorded and will be made available for replay later today in the Investor section of Algoma Steel's corporate website at www.algoma.com. I would like to remind you that comments made on today's call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities laws, which involve assumptions and inherit risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from statements made today. In addition, our financial statements are prepared in accordance with IFRS, which differs from US GAAP, and our discussion today includes references to certain non-IFRS financial measures. Last evening, we posted an earnings presentation to accompany today's prepared remarks. The slides for today's call can be found in the Investors section of our corporate website. With that in mind, I would ask everyone on today's call to read the legal disclaimers on slide two of the accompanying earnings presentation and also to refer to the risks and assumptions outlined in Algoma Steel's third quarter fiscal 2024 management discussion and analysis. Please note that our financial statements are prepared using the U.S. dollar as our functional currency and the Canadian dollar as our presentation currency. Our fiscal year runs from April 1st to March 31st. and our financial statements have been prepared for the three and nine months ended December 31st, 2023. Please note all amounts referred to on today's call are in Canadian dollars unless otherwise noted. Following our prepared remarks, we will conduct a question and answer session. I will now turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Michael Garcia. Mike.
spk08: Thank you, Mike. Good morning and thank you for joining us to discuss our fiscal third quarter results. As is customary, I'll start by highlighting our top priority, the safety of our employees. At Algoma, we uphold an unwavering commitment to safety, which has resulted in a notable improvement to lost-time injury performance year-to-date. While our site remains bustling with activity, it's crucial to underscore the significance of safety, particularly as our EAF project progresses with increasing contractor involvement. We remain steadfast in our pursuit of zero workplace injuries. Next, I'll cover key events and milestones during our fiscal third quarter and subsequent to its end, as well as give an update on progress at our transformative EAF project. I will then turn the call over to Rajat for a deeper dive into the numbers and the discussion of our strong liquidity and balance sheet before closing with an update on market conditions. There are a few important things I would like to get across on this call. Our long-term strategy remains unchanged and on track, to successfully execute the transition to being one of North America's greenest producers of steel. Our results for the quarter were comfortably in line with our expectations. Our facilities are back online with a goal of reaching full production as quickly and safely as possible following the coke making utility structure collapse. And finally, the outlook for our end markets calls for an improvement in pricing relative to calendar year 2023. Now let me give you some additional color on those key themes. Our results for the fiscal third quarter of 2024 were in line with our previously disclosed guidance on both shipments and adjusted EBITDA, and we achieved year-over-year improvements in nearly all of our key metrics. As a reminder, our fiscal third quarter included major seasonal maintenance, which was completed as planned ahead of the winter months. Due to the lagging nature of our order book, Realized pricing in the quarter did not yet reflect the run-up in markets around the end of the UAW strike. That stronger pricing is expected to begin benefiting our financial results in the fiscal fourth quarter, which unfortunately will be largely offset by impacts related to the outage caused by the incident at our coke-making plant that I will discuss in more detail shortly. Our fiscal third quarter is typically a busy one in terms of seasonal maintenance, and this year was no exception. In totality, the work was completed as planned. We also built seasonal inventories per our normal practice going into the end of the calendar year. During the quarter, we made additional progress on phase two of our plate mill modernization project, including bringing the inline shear online and ramping up its production through the end of the year. We expect higher production levels of plate going forward, which will allow us to capture market opportunities and to build inventory ahead of the planned outages for the implementation of the final pieces of the modernization project. As a reminder, we have split the originally planned 40-day outage into two shorter-duration outages, with the first outage scheduled in April and the second outage planned for late calendar year 2024 to align with other planned maintenance activities, providing some efficiencies on downtime. Next, I'd like to update you on the progress during the quarter on our transformational electric arc or EAF project. The EAF will ultimately increase our throughput capacity by roughly a third from 2.8 million tons per year of liquid still making capacity by conventional means today to 3.7 million tons employing dual furnaces upon completion. The higher output will match our expanded downstream finishing capacity as we increase capacity at our plate mill. We will improve overall product mix and lower our carbon emissions by approximately 70% when fully operational. When factoring in the makeup of our power supply when we switch to EAF operations, we expect to be one of the greenest producers of steel in North America. During the quarter, cumulative investment in the EAF project reached $510 million. To date, we have committed contracts totaling approximately $750 million with approximately 7% tied to time and material contracts, while the balance is fixed price in nature. We expect to contract the majority of the remaining project elements by the end of the current quarter. This will significantly de-risk the EAF project budget as we progress towards our expected commissioning in late calendar year 2024. As a reminder, our startup plan continues to include normal production from our existing steelmaking facility while ramping up steel production from our EAFs in calendar year 2025, followed by a complete switch to EAF production. Before I hand it over to Rajat, let me give you an update on our operations currently. As we previously disclosed on January 20th and January 23rd, There was an incident at our coke making plant that involved the collapse of a structure supporting utilities piping. Thankfully, there were no injuries. But the event did impact several of the utilities that service the coke batteries and other facilities throughout the steelworks. Coke making operations were suspended at the time of the incident, and we were able to stabilize heat to all three batteries and resume partial coke production within 72 hours of the incident. When factoring in coke inventories on hand, the availability of third-party coke, and our partial production capabilities, we are able to satisfy all of our steelmaking raw material input needs, while at the same time pursuing a permanent repair plan for the plant. As we also disclosed previously at the time of the incident, we temporarily suspended blast furnace operations for safety reasons. The blast furnace experienced operational challenges upon initial restart due to unforeseen impacts related to the piping collapse. All necessary repairs to the blast furnace have been completed, and the furnace is gradually being brought back online. Usable hot metal is expected to be produced within the next seven days, with the return to full production anticipated within the next two weeks. Most importantly, we will undertake these recovery efforts with the safety of our employees and our community at the forefront. While doing this, we continue to advance the EAF project on schedule. I'd like to once again thank all of our employees for their hard work, dedication, and professionalism. Now I will pass the call over to Rajat to go over our financial results for the quarter. Rajat?
spk03: Thanks, Mike. Good morning, and thank you all for joining the call. As a reminder, all numbers are expressed in Canadian dollars, unless otherwise noted. We shipped 516,000 tons in the quarter, up 12.6% as compared to the prior year period. Our plate and strip operations ran well in the quarter, even as we completed our normal seasonal maintenance, including our annual steelmaking vessel reliance. Net sales realization averaged 10.79 per ton, down 3.3% versus the prior year period. The decrease versus the prior year level primarily reflects somewhat softer market conditions in the quarter, In particular, the residual lower prices resulting from the UAW strike and due to the lagging nature of our order book. Plate pricing continued to enjoy a significant premium relative to hot-rolled coils during the quarter, driven by resilient demand, particularly from spending on infrastructure projects and durable goods. Field revenue in the quarter totaled $556.9 million, up 8.8% versus the same quarter of last year, reflecting the increase in shipments that more than offset lower average realizations per ton of steel. On the cost side, Algoma's cost per ton of steel products sold averaged 10.27 in the quarter, down 11.2% versus the prior year period. The decrease versus the prior year period is primarily attributable to favorable leverage on higher volumes. This resulted in adjusted EBITDA in the quarter of negative $1 million and adjusted EBITDA margin of negative 0.2%, an improvement from negative $35.9 million and negative 6.3% in the year-over period. Cash used in operations totaled $47.4 million for the quarter compared to a use of $128.6 million in the prior year period. Our inventories at the quarter end were $886.6 million, up 7.8% during the quarter due to normal seasonal build patterns ahead of winter. We would typically expect to release inventories in the first half of calendar 2024, heavily weighted towards the first calendar quarter, but the impact of the coke-making plant incident will result in higher levels of inventory for inputs like ore and coal, delaying some of that anticipated inventory release. Looking prospectively, we do expect the fourth fiscal quarter to experience directionally higher EBITDA versus the third fiscal quarter. Earnings performance will obviously be impacted by the production outage related to the utility structure collapse. All told, we expect the incident to impact production and shipments for more than three weeks, totaling roughly 120,000 tons to 150,000 tons. It should be noted that Algoma carries standard insurance coverage that is intended to protect the company at times like these, including business interruption insurance. We have begun the process of submitting claims under our policy for covered losses, and insurance adjusters and advisors were on-site in Susamary. We are working closely with them to secure our protection. We expect to have more details on this front in coming months. From a working capital perspective, we had mentioned on our previous call that we expect to release a total of $150 million by the end of fiscal 2025, with approximately $100 million of working capital drawdown in the fourth fiscal quarter of 2024. On account of the co-op making utility structure collapse and the related operational outages, we expect to release 70% less than originally expected amount in the fourth fiscal quarter. This timing issue will result in us releasing the balance over the subsequent quarters, and we still expect to release approximately $150 million over this period. I would like to provide a reiteration of our funding plans for the EF project. As previously noted, our outlook for total cost of the project remains in the range of $825 million to $875 million. Though the end of the quarter, we had spent $510 million, or 60% of the expected total, leaving $340 million of investment remaining. We are well positioned today when we look at our expected sources for those expenditures over the course of 2024. We have structured our balance sheet such that the only long-term debt we carry is in the form of government loans linked to our capital projects, allowing us to maintain a very low leverage profile. with ample liquidity of nearly $400 million at quarter end to manage through market fluctuation and complete our capital initiatives. We have cash on hand of nearly $95 million, another $76 million of available capacity on our federal SIP loan, and approximately $150 million of cash to be generated from working down excess working capital in the months ahead. This roughly matches the expected capital requirements to complete the project, highlighting our ability to advance this transformative project as planned. I'd now like to turn the call back to our CEO, Michael Garcia, for closing comments. Mike?
spk08: Thank you, Rajat. Looking at the state of the North American steel market, hot-rolled coil index prices moved dramatically higher in October. as a settlement in the UAW strike became apparent and steel consumers rushed to replenish their inventory needs. Over the calendar fourth quarter, pricing moved from the mid-600 range to touch nearly $1,100 per net ton by the end of the year. Pricing so far in 2024 has come in with index prices dropping by approximately $50 and futures falling into the mid-$800 per ton U.S. average for the balance of 2024. While off from year-end highs, these prices still represent a meaningful improvement from levels seen during much of 2023. As Rajat mentioned, we are also supported by the fact that plate pricing continues to demonstrate a significant premium as overall demand for plate products remains high. This, in turn, continues to benefit our average price realizations, especially as we ramp up operations in our plate notes. 2024 will be an important year in the story of Algoma as we continue to execute work towards the commissioning of our transformative EAF project. This will usher in the next phase of our company that defines the future of Algoma, provides the foundation for long-term value creation for our stakeholders, and solidifies our leadership position at the forefront of green steel production in North America. Thank you very much for your continued interest in Algoma Steel. At this point, we would be happy to take your questions. Operator, please give the instructions for the Q&A session.
spk04: Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question is from David Ocampo with Cormark Securities. Please proceed with your question.
spk07: Thanks for taking my questions. My first one is just on a bigger picture question. I guess when you look to 2025, you guys have always discussed being a hybrid operator and either tilting towards being a pure plate EAF or throwing in a little bit of your blast furnace there. When you think about the issues that just happened at the Koch facility and even the blast furnace, does that change your tune on what you guys ultimately decide for 2025, or is it just going to come down to costs? I'm curious on your thoughts there.
spk08: Hi, David. This is Mike. I think that right now our plan still remains to operate in 2025 in a hybrid mode. That's been the plan for some time as well as we think it makes the right financial sense as well and obviously financials will continue to keep a very close eye on that given the incident this in the past two weeks you know we'll have to understand the state of the assets and make sure we're comfortable with the asset integrity of both the The blast furnace, which we pay a lot of attention to, and it features very prominently on our asset integrity and asset reliability plan, but as well as the coke ovens. But assuming nothing significantly changes in either one of those perspectives or analysis, we feel comfortable with our current plan.
spk07: Got it. And maybe early days, and maybe this one's for Rajat, but how should we be thinking about the cost structure when you guys are hybrid operator? Is it, you know, cost plus type model? Or, you know, just curious what the added cost will be with a dual cost structure or dual manufacturing process?
spk03: So hi, David, the, you know, the best way to look at it is that, you know, we will be, we will be operating an additional facility, which is the electric arc facility. And And as we indicated in the past, it probably will carry 100 to 140 people more from Manning perspective, which becomes your fixed cost. And rest, most of it becomes variable in the form of using metal in the electric arc furnace or using metal through the blast furnace. So as far as the added fixed cost is concerned, it's that, and the maintenance cost will not be much as it is a new asset. So we don't expect it to be substantially higher as we go through it. It definitely will be higher as we are transitioning, and as we transition and start shutting down the facilities and start reducing the fixed cost on those facilities, the cost will start coming down.
spk07: Got it. And lots of them for me, Rajat. You gave some capital plans, at least as it relates to the EAF. I was hoping you could square up the total capex for this year broken down by maintenance, the plate modernization, and then layering on the EAF on top of that.
spk03: So when you say this year, you're talking of 2025 fiscal? I guess 24 calendar.
spk07: 24 calendar. So yeah, pretty much.
spk03: should be in line. So it should be, you know, roughly, you know, 250 odd million dollars on EF that we'll be spending from CapEx perspective. And this is gross CapEx, not net. And then we will be spending on our maintenance. It's roughly 100 to 120 million dollars on our maintenance CapEx. that we will be spending. So that's your total. There is some plate mill capex that will be spent in the first quarter and a little bit later on to complete the plate mill project. And that's how the capex will run. There is money spent on recovery of the coke batteries, which which definitely will form part of the whole analysis that we are doing along with insurance, but that will be in addition.
spk07: Got it. Okay. Thanks so much. I'll hand the call over.
spk04: Thank you. Our next question is from Katja Jancic with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.
spk00: Hi. Thank you for taking my question, Scott. First, just to confirm, you expect EBITDA to be higher sequentially in 4Q?
spk03: That's correct.
spk00: And that's mostly going to be driven by pricing, or is there any cost puts and takes there?
spk03: It mostly will be pricing. Cost will be pretty similar. And from variable cost perspective, fixed cost, depending on the volume, definitely will be higher. But it's mostly coming from pricing.
spk00: And this currently assumes three weeks of lost production, right?
spk03: Yeah, roughly 120,000 to 150,000 tons of production and shipment.
spk00: And maybe just on the blast furnace, it's close to needing a full re-line. Is there a risk that that complicates the restart?
spk08: Hi, Katya. This is Mike. No, not really. I think the blast furnace disruption was more related to the utility service incident at Coke making. We've restarted it and are slowly bringing it back to good metal. I don't think that the time since the last reline is really a factor into the incident that happened or the state that we'll get it back to once we're making good metal. Does that help?
spk00: Yeah. Thank you. I'll hop back into the queue.
spk04: Thank you. Our next question is from Ian Giles with Stiefels. Please proceed with your question.
spk02: Morning, everyone.
spk08: Hey.
spk02: Morning, Ian. Just to reconfirm on the working capital numbers you provided, were you suggesting that for fiscal year 24, there'll be, call it a $40 to $50 million release, and then in fiscal year 25, we're looking at another, at a $100 million release? Yes. And the follow-on from that question is, does that contemplate... incurrence of or investing in additional working capital ahead of the EAF ramp? Because I presume you're going to have to start buying scrap ahead of startup and commissioning at year end.
spk03: Yep, it does. And just for context, we will be buying scrap, but not much as we are, not much by end of this year as we are ramping up. It probably will be more in the following year. uh as we buy and at that point in time our iron ore and coal inventory will go down uh substantially as well so so yes it does consider uh whatever whatever we will buy for the ramp up and we'll still be reducing that 100 million or 150 total by next year okay
spk02: And Rajat, given some of, I guess, the timing differences now with spending in relation to the EAF and the use of the credit facility, is there anything within the government loans you have right now that prevents the incurrence of additional debt or anything like that that could limit your availability?
spk03: No, there are buckets or baskets which are available that we can... If we have to tap the... the closed market weekend.
spk02: Okay. And then I suppose as we start looking into the remainder of this year, and as we think about timing of the capital costs for the EAF, is that an update you'll provide with your typical guidance that you provide in the early part of April? Or will that be provided at a later date, do you think?
spk08: We're not sure what you mean by the capital costs.
spk02: Well, sorry, just to be clear, you'd suggested that you think you'll have all the projects secured and the capital costs secured by the end of this calendar quarter. And you typically provide guidance in and around EBITDA for a quarter, call it early the following month, so early April. I was just wondering if within that release, you think you'll provide an update on the EAF and costs, et cetera?
spk03: Yeah, sure. We will, you know, as we typically do, we will provide where we are on the EAF, on the capital cost side. Our expectation is majority of our costs should be fixed by that time, and we'll definitely provide an update by that time.
spk02: Okay. Okay. Thanks very much. I'll turn it back over. Thanks, Ian.
spk04: Thank you. Our next question is from Ahmed Shah with Beacon Securities. Please proceed with your question.
spk01: Hey, guys. Just maybe a first follow-up, I guess. What reference point do you suggest we use in terms of shipments for Q4 relative to the 120 to 150K that you guys mentioned? just because there's a lot of variability yet to date on the shipment's volume?
spk03: Yeah, so typically we are at around 550 as an average for each quarter, so you can start from there.
spk01: Perfect. That's very helpful. And in terms of pricing, I guess you guys said they expect directionally stronger prices for throughout calendar 24 compared to calendar 23. Is that the driver behind that? Is this the current futures curve or what assumptions are you driving this comment?
spk03: It's actually the future curves that we are seeing that's driving where pricing is. The other thing that's definitely driving our expectation for this year is the spending that's happening on the infrastructure and other areas. The consumption as such or the demand as such has been stable. We don't expect big changes as such other than the sentimental changes that happen. And also we are factoring in the cost element, which has kept the lows at a higher number and kept the average through the cycle pricing at a higher number as well. So some of those factors are considered, but yes, the futures are also indicating where the pricing is going.
spk01: Okay, that's very helpful. Thanks for that. And last one, I'm not sure if you guys touched on it, but are you guys planning maybe as we get closer to the commissioning of the AF, just update us on the potential savings and OPEX structure? I mean, it's been a while since I think the last update we had is from the data from the roadshow while you're going public. Just wondering if there is a chance we get an update around those numbers this year.
spk08: Yes, this is Mike. We'll continue to do that as we update information and get closer to the commencement of commissioning on the EAFs at the end of this year, both on what our end state will be as well as more information around what the short hybrid period will look like from that perspective.
spk01: Got it. That's really helpful. Thanks, guys, for answering my question.
spk04: Thank you. Our next question is from Lucas Pipes with B. Reilly Securities. Please proceed with your question.
spk05: Thank you very much, operator. Good morning, everyone. Apologies if I missed this, but I wondered if you could maybe provide some color in terms of dollars and cents in regards to the Coke incident and wondered what the OPEX impact this year might be, and then also from a CAPEX side, what will be any additional costs from the incident in the longer term, any kind of long-term costs to consider? Thank you very much.
spk08: Sure. I'll start, Lucas. So, we've completed the preparation of the repair plan, using it both outside engineering and internal resources. So we expect the total repair cost to be in the $20 to $30 million range and should be complete sometime in the April time period. In terms of costs beyond that, our aim is to do a complete recovery back to full production of the Koch batteries. Thankfully, during the incident, none of the three batteries suffered any thermal integrity degradation. We were able to protect the thermal integrity of all three batteries. So, you know, once the repair is executed, our goal is to get back to pre-incident Koch production levels.
spk05: Got it. Any longer-term costs that might be associated with this?
spk03: I think it's too early to say, but the way we have looked at it right now and the work that we are doing, the batteries as such are okay, the walls are okay, so we don't expect much degradation there, which is the key from long-term cost perspective. As far as the corridor is concerned, the piping, that's the cost that we have assessed, which is 20 to 30. So at high level, we don't think that there will be additional cost. But we'll know more as we start the furnace to full production. And just in added color, during that period, we'll probably be running at 30 to 40% of our production and using external coke during this quarter. And come next quarter, we should get down to full production levels.
spk05: Very helpful. Thank you. And I'll turn to a kind of high-level topic on M&A. Saw a very active process in the U.S. with U.S. Steel. And kind of I wondered how you look at the M&A landscape at this time. Is there something that you think strategically could really benefit Algoma? Or how do you expect the landscape to kind of evolve, maybe more within Canada? Would appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.
spk08: Hi, Lucas. While I'm sure it will evolve, it's our policy not to speculate or comment on how we're we may be thinking around specific M&A opportunities. But I appreciate the question.
spk05: Anything that would strategically maybe be uniquely beneficial to Algoma? Or is it really just focus on the EAF? From your side, nothing?
spk08: Yeah, I mean, obviously, our short-term strategy strategic path is clear. We believe that the EAF brings a tremendous strategic value to Algoma. We're laser focused on executing that. We're on time, on budget, and we very much look forward to commissioning at the end of this year, beginning commissioning.
spk05: All right. Well, I appreciate that. Thank you very much. Thank you, Lucinda.
spk04: Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to hand the floor back over to Mike Marocca for any closing comments.
spk06: Well, thank you very much again for your participation in our third quarter fiscal 2024 earnings conference call and your continued interest in Algoma Steel. We look forward to updating you on our results and progress when we report our fiscal fourth quarter results scheduled for June. Thank you.
spk04: This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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