10/26/2022

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Operator
Conference Operator

Please stand by. Our presentation will now begin. Welcome to the Avnet first quarter fiscal year 2023 earnings conference call. I would now like to turn the floor over to Joe Burke, Vice President of Treasury and Investor Relations for Avnet.

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Joe Burke
Vice President of Treasury and Investor Relations, Avnet

Thank you, Paul. Earlier this afternoon, Avnet released financial results for the first quarter fiscal year 2023. The release is available on the Investor Relations section of the company's website. A copy of the slide presentation that will accompany today's remarks can be found via the link in the earnings release as well as on the IR section of ABNET's website. Some of the information contained in the news release and on this conference call contain forward-looking statements that involve risk, uncertainties, and assumptions that are difficult to predict. Such forward-looking statements are not the guarantee of performance, and the company's actual results could differ materially from those contained in such statements. Several factors that could cause or contribute to such differences are described in detail in AVNET's most recent Form 10-Q and 10-K and subsequent filings with the SEC. These forward-looking statements speak only as of the date of this presentation and the company undertakes no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statement or supply new information regarding the circumstances after the date of this presentation. Today's call will be led by Phil Gallagher, Avnet's CEO, and Ken Jacobson, Avnet's CFO. With that, let me turn the call over to Phil Gallagher. Phil?

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Phil Gallagher
Chief Executive Officer, Avnet

Thank you, Joe, and thank you, everyone, for joining us on our first quarter fiscal year 2023 earnings conference call. In the prior fiscal year, we delivered record results and continue to take strategic steps to position Avnet as a more durable company with an increasingly critical role in the global technology supply chain. We are well positioned to continue to deliver value to our customers, suppliers, and shareholders, even in the face of a more challenging and uncertain operating environment. I am pleased to share that we kicked off the fiscal year with another quarter of solid financial results, including meaningful sales growth across all regions and improved profitability year over year. We achieved these results despite the macro headwinds affecting certain areas of our business, which I'll touch on in a minute. In a quarter, we achieved sales of $6.8 billion. This exceeded the higher end of our guidance, up 6% sequentially and over 20% year over year. On a constant currency basis, sales increased nearly 29% year over year. Efficient management of our operations also enabled us to drive solid operating margins of 4.3%, which is the third consecutive quarter of a greater than 4% operating margin. Further, the combination of a solid sales and effective management of operations allowed us to increase operating income three times greater than revenues on a year-over-year basis. A significant driver of our results in the quarter was, of course, the continued execution by our incredible global team. Our team has effectively managed market complexities and has served as great partners to our customers and suppliers as they face fast-changing supply chain conditions and uncertainties. We are more deeply engaged with our customers and suppliers than ever before, which enables us to maintain the necessary expertise and capabilities to help them navigate today's supply chain complexities. And with the structural and organizational changes we made to our business over the last two years, we are well positioned to continue serving as a control tower for our customers and suppliers. In a quarter, Demand remains strong globally and in key vertical segments like transportation, industrial, and aerospace and defense, and we have continued to invest in inventory to meet this demand. You will see that inventory levels were higher at the end of the first quarter as compared to the prior quarter, which Ken will speak to further in his commentary. This reflects our need to support sustained sales levels in Asia and quarter A increases for specific supply chain engagements. overall we continue to be very comfortable with our days of inventory heading into our second quarter with that let me turn to the highlights for our business at the top line our electronic components business saw sequential and year-over-year growth across all three regions In constant currency, electronic component sales were up nearly 9 percent sequentially and up over 31 percent year-over-year, reaching $6.3 billion in the quarter. These results were primarily driven by another record quarter of sales in Asia and consistent, strong sales growth in both the Americas and EMEA regions. Increased sales in Asia were driven primarily by growth in the transportation and industrial markets. The team in Asia is also successfully gaining share in the region, leading to record quarter billings. The Americas and EMEA regions both benefited from strength in key verticals, notably industrial, transportation, and aerospace and defense. We are very pleased with the growth in these markets, as highlighted at our Investor Day in June. This is proof that we are well diversified across the end markets we serve and reinforces our expectation that these end markets will continue to have positive long-term growth prospects. Further, our enhanced focus on growing key supplier relationships and addressing their supply chain needs continues to bring benefits across all of our regions. We continue to coordinate closely with customers and suppliers to effectively manage our backlogs. As a result of those actions, our overall book-to-bill ratio continued to moderate as was near parity leading into our second quarter. We continue to benefit from our unique engineering capabilities with our field application engineers and digital design tools resulting in another record revenue quarter for demand creation. We believe this continued strength is indicative of the increasing value of the capabilities we provide to customers and suppliers and is important to supporting our margins in a more uncertain operating environment. Turning to our Fresnel business, Fresnel sales and profitability were impacted by currency fluctuations, particularly weakness in the British pound, and ongoing component shortages that are affecting Fresnel's ability to fully meet demand for single-board computers. Even with that, the backlog for single-board computers remains robust, and we expect to realize such sales when the product becomes available. Additionally, Farnell recently became the exclusive licensed distributor of the Raspberry Pi single-board computer. We are really excited about this development, which will increase our market share and favorably impact Farnell's revenue in the midterm. Operating margins for Farnell were above 12% during the quarter, impacted by a weakening of the British pound. We expect currency fluctuation to have a continued impact on Farnell into the second quarter. We remain excited about Farnell and continue to see opportunities to leverage Farnell's and electronic components' unique and synergistic collaboration to better serve our Avnet customers. To conclude, I want to reiterate that we are a stronger and much more durable company today through the changes we've made to our business. And I believe our recent trends and results reflect that. While we cannot control the overall market, I am confident in our team's ability to execute in a challenging and uncertain environment and continue to deliver value to our supplier and customer partners. There's never been a greater need for the capabilities that Adden has, and we look forward to continuing to play a critical role at the center of the technology supply chain. With that, I'll turn it over to Ken to dive deeper into our first quarter results.

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Ken Jacobson
Chief Financial Officer, Avnet

Thank you, Phil. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for participating on today's call. As Phil mentioned, we are very pleased with our first quarter performance. Our team's continued execution resulted in significant sales and operating income growth with excellent returns, and we are encouraged by the great start to fiscal year 2023. In the first quarter, our sales were $6.8 billion, up 21% year over year, well exceeding the top end of our guidance range. Sales growth in constant currency was 29% year-over-year, with each region contributing to the growth. We also grew sales 6% quarter-over-quarter or over 8% in constant currency, which is well above our typical seasonal trend. We had strong sales in the first quarter across all of our regions, led by our Asia team, which delivered a record $2.9 billion of sales. On a year-over-year basis, sales grew 33% in the Americas, 42% in Europe in constant currency, and 18% in Asia in constant currency. From an operating group perspective, electronic component sales grew 23% year-over-year or 31% in constant currency. Electronic component sales grew 7% quarter-over-quarter or 9% in constant currency. Parnell sales declined 6% year-over-year but grew 2% in constant currency. Parnell sales continue to be negatively impacted by the continued shortage of certain components needed to complete single-board computers. Excluding sales of certain single board computers, Fresnel sales grew 7% year over year. For the first quarter, gross margin of 11.4% was down 85 basis points quarter over quarter. This decline was primarily driven by higher Asia regional sales mix and from declines in gross margin due to product and customer mix. We continue to maintain discipline around expenses in the quarter as adjusted operating expenses were $475 million for the quarter, down 4% sequentially and down 1% year over year. Adjusted operating expenses as a percentage of gross profit dollars was less than 62% in the first quarter, which is the lowest it has been over the past several years. Adjusted operating income of $293 million increased 64% year over year and grew three times greater than sales, demonstrating our ability to continue to drive operating leverage as we grow our business. Our adjusted operating income margin was 4.4% in the first quarter, which is the third consecutive quarter with greater than 4% operating income margin. Electronic components operating income was $267 million, up 65% year over year. Electronic components operating income margin was 4.2% up over 100 basis points year-over-year. Most notably, our Americas business continued to make progress towards their operating margin improvement goals. This is the eighth consecutive quarter of Americas year-over-year operating margin improvements, and we are encouraged by the momentum our Americas team has coming into the December quarter. Farnell operating income was $52 million, up 4% year-over-year, despite the 6% decline in sales. Fresnel operating income margin was 12.1% in the quarter, up over 120 basis points year-over-year. The quarter-over-quarter decline in Fresnel operating income margin was primarily driven by a combination of lower sales and a lower gross margin because of the foreign currency impact on Fresnel's pricing and related gross margin. Turning to expenses below operating income, interest expense of $45 million in the first quarter increased by $15 million quarter-over-quarter primarily due to higher debt balances to support working capital investments and from rising interest rates. This increase in interest expense negatively impacted adjusted diluted earnings per share by 12 cents quarter-over-quarter. Our effective income tax rate was 23% in the quarter as expected. Adjusted diluted earnings per share was $2 for the quarter, which increased 64% year over year. Turning to the balance sheet and liquidity, during the quarter, we invested in working capital to support our sales growth, resulting in approximately $700 million increase quarter over quarter. Of this working capital increase, approximately $300 million came from additional receivables, and approximately $400 million came from additional inventories. With respect to our inventory, we are comfortable with the quality and age of our inventory. The increase in inventory was driven by several factors, including support for sustained stale levels in Asia and an approximately $120 million increase specific to a single supply chain engagement that came in at the end of the quarter. We expect the inventory related to this specific engagement to shift early in the quarter. Additionally, we continue to work with our customers and suppliers to come to mutually beneficial solutions as certain customers have high levels of inventory as they wait for the golden screw components. As a result of this working capital increase, working capital days was 73 days for the quarter, which is within our acceptable range of working capital days. Our returns on working capital continue to be significantly higher than our cost of capital. The increases in working capital led to an increase in debt of approximately $700 million and a corresponding $650 million use of cash from operations. The increase in debt led to a gross leverage of 1.9 times at the end of the quarter, still well within our required leverage ratios. At the end of the quarter, we had approximately $600 million of available borrowing capacity, and we expect to generate positive operating cash flows in our second quarter because of seasonal declines in sales from our western regions. In our first quarter, we purchased approximately $150 million worth of shares, which represented nearly 4% of outstanding shares. Over the last two quarters, we've retired approximately 6% of outstanding shares. There's $383 million left on our current share repurchase authorization entering the second quarter. We expect to continue to buy back shares at similar levels during the second quarter as our shares continue to trade at meaningful discount to book value and at a lower multiple than our shares have historically traded at. During the quarter, we also increased our quarterly dividend to $0.29 per share, an over 11% increase from the prior quarterly dividend. During fiscal 2023, we expect our capital expenditures to increase primarily to support a new warehouse in Europe. Turning to guidance. For the second quarter of fiscal 2023, we are guiding sales in the range of $6.35 billion to $6.65 billion and adjusted diluted EPS in the range of $1.80 to $1.90. Our second quarter guidance today is based on current market conditions, including a $60 million negative impact on our sales guidance at the midpoint from the recent strengthening of the U.S. dollar as compared to the first quarter. This guidance implies a sequential sales decline of down 1% to down 5% in constant currency and assumes a typical seasonal decline in sales in our western regions as those regions have fewer shipping days compared to last quarter because of holidays. This guidance assumes similar interest expense to the first quarter, an effective tax rate of between 21% and 25%, and 94 million outstanding shares on a diluted basis. In closing, I want to thank our team for delivering another quarter of sales and earnings growth. We believe that we are well positioned to continue to gain market share in the future. Avnet's diversification of suppliers, products, and the end markets we serve are key differentiators that will enable us to continue to deliver positive financial results despite uncertain and changing market conditions. With that, I will turn it back over to Operator to open it up for Q&A. Operator?

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question comes from Melissa Fairbank with Raymond Jenkins. Please proceed with your question.

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Melissa Fairbank
Analyst, Raymond Jenkins

Hi, guys. Congratulations on a great quarter and guide. Really refreshing to see amid all this uncertainty. I was just wondering, for modeling purposes, you know, OPEX was at kind of a record low as a percentage of sales. Just wondering going forward how sustainable that is, if OpEx needs to kind of trend higher as we go forward, or can we expect to see, you know, this kind of operating leverage in the model?

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Ken Jacobson
Chief Financial Officer, Avnet

This is Ken. I would say, you know, in general, the absolute level of OpEx, you know, it would sustain around the same levels. If sales continue to decline, we have some levers on the overall OPEX side, but we feel pretty good about the absolute number of OPEX. Now, depending on the level of sales, the percentage of GP might change a little bit, but we feel pretty good about the range of OPEX we had this last quarter, and that can be sustainable into the fiscal year.

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Melissa Fairbank
Analyst, Raymond Jenkins

Okay, great, great. And maybe just one quick follow-up. I imagine you're probably going to get a lot of questions on the inventory balance. I'm just wondering, is there any risk to the inventory due to price inflation, meaning as you've been able to accumulate the inventory, you know, as some of these supply constraints ease, is there any risk going forward as we get into maybe some normalization of pricing next year that the value of inventory is overstated?

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Ken Jacobson
Chief Financial Officer, Avnet

Yeah, I would say we don't see a huge risk there. We do have some price protections on lowering prices if it happens to come from the suppliers. But at the same time, we have commitments from our customers, and we work through the inventory levels, but we don't see a huge risk in terms of taking inventory losses and things like that because of pricing.

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Phil Gallagher
Chief Executive Officer, Avnet

Okay, great. Yeah. I'll just add all this to thank you. I apologize for my voice in the call. Everybody is fighting some allergies here. But, yeah, we're well within our range for inventory and the returns we model around the inventory. That's important, so I'll get ahead of the next question. The quality of inventory is extremely good. Our reserves are well in line, and the aging inventory is not increasing, so it's relatively current.

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Melissa Fairbank
Analyst, Raymond Jenkins

Okay, excellent. Great. That's all for me. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Thank you. Our next question is from Matt Sheeran with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

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Matt Sheeran
Analyst, Stifel

Yes. Thanks for taking my questions. Phil, Just trying to get your perspective on the outlook. It looks like you're down a little bit seasonally. Your book to bill is finally at parity after how many quarters of very positive. Some of the suppliers, the semi-electric suppliers and other component suppliers, modeling or at least looking more cautiously to Q4. Texas Instruments last night guided down double digits. Other component suppliers are starting to see some inventory correction going on at customers. It doesn't sound like You're seeing that in a big way yet. Is it that you're lagging the cycle, or are there still those hard-to-get parts where customers are still dealing with that imbalance and they're not going to start cutting their inventory until that straightens out?

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Phil Gallagher
Chief Executive Officer, Avnet

Yeah, it's probably a $64,000 question, Matt. Thanks. But, look, we're given the outlook as we see it today with our backlog today and the next – three to six month backlog and it's a straight roll up from the regions. We're not pressing it. We're not pushing them. It's a number we feel that we can hit at this point in time. And, you know, if you look and we caught out intentionally, the industrial defense aero, transportation, as we see it today, those still look pretty solid. We're not as exposed in the consumer and some of the compute even that others are. So And the other thing, Matt, that's leading us is we're watching the backlog. I'm pleased the book-to-bills are coming down. We're helping to drive some of that because you and I both know that's not realistic, what's kind of been going on here the last 12 to 24 months. We're not seeing, as of yet, cancellations as much. We're seeing some push-outs, and we're managing our customers' backlog with them if they can't get the golden screw and all that kind of stuff. But we're not seeing they want to remove it off the books. So we're driving, frankly, to some of that. We want to make sure it's real. The next three months or so, this is the outlook we see based on the roll-up in the teams.

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Matt Sheeran
Analyst, Stifel

Okay. Thanks for that. And then on the gross margin, I understand why that was down sequentially because of the mix. Looking forward... As you said, North America and Europe have fewer selling days. So would you expect gross margin to remain at these levels and be down, I guess, meaningfully year over year? Or is there some pricing power or other reasons why gross margin could be higher?

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Ken Jacobson
Chief Financial Officer, Avnet

Yeah, Matt, I would say flattish, but we're still going to have a higher mix of Asia in our second quarter due to the holidays. But that gets offset by a better forecast. you know, product and customer mix than we had this quarter to kind of offset some of that impact. So, so flattish is, is probably the right way to think about it. And then when you get into the, the third and fourth quarters, you'd have a higher mix of West. You'd get some of that margin back on a gross margin perspective.

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Matt Sheeran
Analyst, Stifel

Okay. And just lastly on, on the SG&A, It was noted that it was down year and year. How much of that is related to FX and the natural hedge that you have in regions like the UK and Europe where the currency is basically a favorable swing for you on the FX side?

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Ken Jacobson
Chief Financial Officer, Avnet

Yeah, from a currency perspective, you know, somewhere between $35 and $40 million, Matt, was the benefit, I guess, we got with overall OpEx, you know, from a reported perspective.

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Matt Sheeran
Analyst, Stifel

On a year-over-year basis? Year-over-year basis, yeah. Okay, terrific. Thanks very much. Thanks, Matt.

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Operator
Conference Operator

If you are one of these investors. Thank you. Our next question comes from Jim Suva with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question.

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Jim Suva
Analyst, Citigroup

Thank you so much. Um, a quick question on your operating margin, you know, given the state, I think Phil mentioned that there's a few pushouts, but nothing materially keep an eye on it as far as cancellations and such. Um, what about, you know, operating margins? Do you think they're kind of sustainable at these levels? Cause you know, the investor concern out there, of course, is that if ASPs come down and order pushouts and cancellations ratchet up that AS, uh, that mark operating margins could be under pressure. If you could just kind of help, uh, address that elephant in the room, that'd be great.

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Ken Jacobson
Chief Financial Officer, Avnet

Yeah, I guess I would say we feel pretty good about the second floor operating margin still being above 4%. You know, it's implied in the guidance. um you know as you look out clearly there would be an impact on our operating margins if we you know have a deterioration in sales or meaningful deterioration um so that's that's a given you know i think when we think about it we feel really good in the mid to long term that we can sustain that level of margins um and so you know there might be some temporary declines as as those market factors come through the model um but in general we feel good about our opex bubbles Feel good about some opportunities like demand creation, supply chain services, you know, IP that can help, you know, still give us some positives on the gross margin. But clearly we would lose some if the sales go down meaningfully.

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Jim Suva
Analyst, Citigroup

Great. And a quick follow-up, interest expense outlook, a little bit more on that. And does it include a planned November increase? by the Fed, just so we can kind of think about that?

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Ken Jacobson
Chief Financial Officer, Avnet

Yeah, I would say it contemplates, you know, a potential increase there. And, you know, we're looking at kind of flattish from the first quarter.

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Jim Suva
Analyst, Citigroup

Thank you. Congratulations.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Thank you. Our next question is from William Stein with Prima Security. Please proceed with your question.

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William Stein
Analyst, Prima Security

Great, thanks for taking my questions. First, I'm hoping you can elaborate on the controlled power topic. You mentioned this at the analyst day. I'm not sure how deep we dug into this topic, but I understand it provides your customers with a way to envision their inventory across various channels. Can you maybe spend a minute or two talking about how your customers are using you for this and what the financial implications are on your business. Thank you.

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Phil Gallagher
Chief Executive Officer, Avnet

Sure, Will. This is Bill. Yeah, we started coining that term. As we went through the pandemic and we saw supply chains break down, we're right at the center of that technology supply chain, and that's the value we bring to the market is managing supply chains, of course, demand creation as well. So we've had many customers and suppliers from all verticals, frankly, starting to come to this to help them rebuild their supply chain. There's just a lot of, I'll use the word, transparency lost, you know, from end OEMs to where the manufacturing was, multiple manufacturing sites, hundreds to... suppliers to tens of thousands of SKUs. And when things started to break down, they just lost a lot of that visibility. And the one, you're right, we had to investigate was Milwaukee, right? And they spoke very clearly about that, how we were able to build in a, we call control tower. They can help aggregate their many different SKUs from many different suppliers, and then filter that or drive that to the right, in this case, EMS provider that's driving the manufacturing for them. So it's really a visibility and transparency, and then there's analytics in there to help them with their forecasting and demand on the front end as well as what's coming in from the suppliers as we manage lead times coming in to the MRPs. So hopefully that helps explain what we're talking about there.

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William Stein
Analyst, Prima Security

A follow-up, if I can. Can you talk about the distribution of parts that are still in a shortage situation? I think, you know, certainly the microcontroller companies, for example, those buying from Foundry on very trailing edge, they talk about how this is still in a you know, sort of protracted shortage situation, and then there are other components like memory, broadly speaking, that's in severe oversupply. Can you talk about the mix between those two dynamics? Unusual to have sort of disparate things happening at the same time. We know they are happening to happen for a while, but can you talk about how that's trending and what the mix is between those two dynamics?

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Phil Gallagher
Chief Executive Officer, Avnet

Yeah, I'll do the best I can. I mean, there's tens to a hundred different commodity breakouts, so I'll just give it a high-level will, which is what, by the way, with some of the lead times coming in, is why we're getting some more inventory, which is, again, not a bad thing. But it even starts with the interconnect. Interconnect, for most artists, come down a bit, but they're still in a wide range of I don't know, eight to 30 weeks or so, Will. It's improved two to eight weeks since the beginning of 2022. We don't see that happening in the defense side and aerospace side. We think that's going to continue to be extended lead times, particularly in that no-aero connector space. Then you go jump over to the capacitors, MLCCs, the general purpose. Those lead times will come back to more. most notably in the mobiles that are back to normal levels in the 12 to 18 weeks. But even in capacitors, if you look at the high capital large size caps that go into automotive and high voltage large case size, they're still out 30 plus weeks. So just in the passive connector, there's a huge range of disparity, if you will, in the lead times, which is why it's so tough to just summarize it. If you jump over to The SEMI side, again, products primarily supporting consumer and compute, we're experiencing lead time reductions in that area. You mentioned one, like memory has come way down of recent. But demand is still outpatient in the MCUs and power discreets, for example. Lead times remain in the 40 to 52 weeks. Things like You know, op amps are still 40 to 52 weeks. Voltage regulator is 48 to 52 weeks. Programmable logic, even some programmable logic, although some of that's improved, still has, you know, anywhere from, you know, 20 to 26 weeks. And the controller space, as you pointed out, not much change there. 8, 16, 32 bit pretty much across the board. You know, low end might be 20 weeks, higher end 52 to 60 weeks. So it's that. I'm not going to go through every commodity at the time to do that, but we do this for our customers, though, by the way, that are using the control towers and all our supply chain services. So we do continued update on what we see in the market across the board. We'd be glad to do that in a separate session for anybody on this call as well, by the way, as to what we're seeing overall. I hope that answers at least at a high level. It's certainly a mixed bag out there, which I think what's driving the complexity and the disparities and confusion is what the market outlook is.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you.

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Phil Gallagher
Chief Executive Officer, Avnet

Thank you, Will.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Rupalu Bhattacharya with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

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Rupalu Bhattacharya
Analyst, Bank of America

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. My first question is on Parnell. uh was wondering you know how did the e-commerce sales impact uh you know revenues this quarter and then if you can touch on the margin performance i mean you had pretty strong margins even this quarter 12 percent plus but last quarter was very strong at 14. so just the sequential margin decline how much would you say was fx how much was volume just any color on that sequential trend and how should we think about carnell margins for the third quarter yeah so i'll go first and turn over to ken thanks group blue um

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Phil Gallagher
Chief Executive Officer, Avnet

e-commerce sales still still really really strong uh we call that for most most of that is on the board computing so components that are on the board semis iep in the um that represented roughly 73 percent of the activity so the line items coming through far now and still in that 52 to 54 range of the revenue so we're really really pleased uh overall with that Those stats. And overall, please, with Parnell still. They had a couple other things that impacted them. I can touch on the FX with the pound and then a bit with the single board computing.

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Ken Jacobson
Chief Financial Officer, Avnet

But drove some volume loss. Yeah, from an operating margin perspective, I would say it's about 60-40. 60% was driven by just the sales decline and 40% was driven by the impact on gross margin for the pricing because it

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Rupalu Bhattacharya
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay. Thanks for the details there. For my follow-up, can I ask a question on the core business? Phil, it looks like, you know, you again had a strong quarter with Asia. How should we think about that trend going forward? Do you think that region sustains and, you know, the demand there versus, you know, Europe and North America? Just your thoughts on regional mix going into the next quarter. And then just the same question on margins for sequentially markets.

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Phil Gallagher
Chief Executive Officer, Avnet

uh between the june and the september quarters what were some of the impacts there and how do you think about core margins in the december quarter yeah um so i'll hit on the revenue like that and touch on the margins so i didn't know the way to say we're really really pleased with our team's execution in asia pac with with all the the uh mixed messages that there's another uh record quarter for us um in asia pac And we're also, you know, really watching their backlog as well, you know, for the reality of the backlog and the integrity of the backlog. And our leadership team there has been very, I would say, very assertive in making sure that that's as clean as possible as we move forward. And if you look into Q2, we're seeing pretty steady performance in Asia-Pac from the September to the December quarter, okay, which is, we think, pretty positive. So as of March quarter, we'll look at it. We don't go that far out, but we'll see how the traditional Chinese New Year and the holiday in Asia impacts March. We'll talk about that next quarter. But right now, the December quarter is looking pretty good for us in Asia, as we see today.

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Ken Jacobson
Chief Financial Officer, Avnet

Ken, you want to touch on that? Yeah, so from an overall Asia mix, you're going to see an increase in Asia sales this next quarter because the West has a little bit softer sales because of the holidays, less shipping days. And then you get into the third quarter, you'd see Asia become less percentage and the West become higher. So that's kind of how to think about it from a seasonality, not talking about anything. The Q3 sales levels are just more in general the cadence of the business. I would say from a core business operating margin perspective, we'll have a higher Asian mix, so that'll put pressure on the operating margin, but I think we'll have a better product and customer mix offsetting that. So flattish is the right way to think about the core operating margin into this next quarter. quarter, and we'd expect all things being equal in seasonality, that to go up as we get into our third and fourth quarters with the higher mix of West business that has a higher gross margin.

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Rupalu Bhattacharya
Analyst, Bank of America

Got it. Thanks for the details there. If I can just add one more quick follow-up. Did you, Phil, mention what was demand creation as a percent of total revenue, and how should we think about that going forward?

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Phil Gallagher
Chief Executive Officer, Avnet

Yeah, we did. It was roughly 30%, 31% of our total revenue. And with the revenue being as high as it was, it was another record of demand creation dollars. The funnel looks good moving forward. Registrations and design wins are still a big part of our success story as we move forward. So pretty bullish on our demand creation.

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Rupalu Bhattacharya
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay. Thanks for all the details. Appreciate it.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Joseph Cardoso with J.P. Morgan. Please proceed with your question.

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Joseph Cardoso
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Thanks for the question. First one is just a quick one and a follow-up on the Farnell margins this quarter. In prior quarters, you called out pricing benefits that you've seen in the margins themselves. So I was just curious, did you see any pricing benefits on Farnell margins in the September quarter? And if so, what was the magnitude of that?

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Ken Jacobson
Chief Financial Officer, Avnet

I wouldn't say we saw any pricing benefits from the Farnell margin. If anything, a couple of those you know, commodities where the lead times have come down. We might have got a little pressure on it, but I would say, you know, the pressure we saw this quarter is really purely FX and, you know, the difference in pricing due to various currencies between, you know, U.S.-based competitors and Farnell being a predominantly U.K.-based, you know, company. So that was the main pressure. You know, a little bit of noise here and there, but nothing meaningful to point out. No, understood.

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Joseph Cardoso
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Thanks for the clarity. And then just my follow-up, you know, last quarter you spoke about seeing AST inflation for EC. I think it was somewhere in the range of 70%, high single digits, I suppose. You know, are you still seeing that same level, or has there been any shift in terms of where you're seeing AST inflation? And then kind of more importantly, how are you thinking about that trend going forward? Are you seeing any signs that we're kind of cycling past the peak, and could we start to see some moderation? Thanks for the question, guys.

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Phil Gallagher
Chief Executive Officer, Avnet

Joe, let me take a shot at that. I think you kind of broke up, at least on our end. So you're talking about the pricing inflation we talked about last quarter, right? Correct. Okay, yeah. So, yeah, last quarter we said roughly 20% to 25% of our growth would have been for ASP, you know, price increases. does affect our margin as much i'm not sure that's part of your question it's more gp dollars than anything it's not gp percent and then this quarter we started to see some of that moderate so some of it would have been from carryover but a lot of the price increases have uh seemed to work through the system at this point so in quarter uh we got very very little uh impact on any further price increases but year on year we would have seen some of that okay no i think that's about right as far as the long term i mean i think

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Ken Jacobson
Chief Financial Officer, Avnet

You know, we're hearing mixed bag, but we don't necessarily hear a lot of commentary, at least from our supplier partners, about them lowering prices. So, yes, the price increases are moderated, but not a lot on lowering prices. And so that's kind of how we're viewing it right now, but, you know, clearly continue to monitor the tone and conversation around ASB. Thanks for the question.

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Joseph Cardoso
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Appreciate all the color, guys.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you, Jeff. Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Phil Gallagher for any closing remarks.

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Phil Gallagher
Chief Executive Officer, Avnet

Sure. Thank you very much. I just want to, again, thank everyone for attending today's earnings call. And one more time, thank the AdNet team around the world for a terrific performance. And we really look forward to speaking to all of you again at our fiscal second quarter earnings report in January. Okay. Have a good rest of the year. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

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