2/28/2020

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Carmely, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the ACCENS Q4 2019 earnings call. All lines are in place to unmute to prevent any background noise. After this week's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. At which time, instructions will follow. I will now turn it over to our host for today, Andrea James, VP of Investor Relations and Corporate Strategy. You may begin your conference. During current aid, in the interest of time, the company requests that you limit your questions to one initially and then get back in queue for any follow-ups. I will now turn it over to our host, Ms. Andrea James. You may begin.

speaker
Andrea James
VP of Investor Relations and Corporate Strategy

Thank you, Kormeli. Hello, everyone. Welcome to Axon's fourth quarter 2019 earnings conference webcast. I'm Andrea, as just introduced. Here in the room in Scottsdale headquarters, we have Axon CEO Rick Smith, President Luke Larson, CFO Jawad Ahsan, and Chief Revenue Officer Josh Isner. And joining us from our global software hub in Seattle is our Chief Product Officer Jeff Cunningham. I hope you've all had a chance to read our shareholder letter, which was released after the market closed. You can find it at investor.axon.com. And for the first time, we've published an ESG addendum, which you can find in the PDF linked on our website. Management's remarks today are meant to build upon the information in that letter. During this call, we will discuss our business outlook and make forward-looking statements. Any forward-looking statements made today are pursuant to and within the meaning of the safe harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These comments are based on our predictions and expectations as of today and are not guarantees of future performance. All forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. These risks are discussed in our SEC filings. I will now turn the call over to Rick Smith, our Chief Executive Officer.

speaker
Rick Smith
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Andrea, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. I'm incredibly proud of everyone here at Axon for delivering another banner year with strong top and bottom line performance while simultaneously executing on several major product launches. 2019 was the year we planted the flag for our moonshot to make the bullet obsolete with the publication of my book, The End of Killing. Before this decade is out, we will deliver a taser weapon that will outperform a semi-automatic pistol in the effective and reliable incapacitation of a human subject. That will be a game changer. And we've doubled down on our mission to make the justice system more efficient, more transparent, and more equitable. We will leverage the power of artificial intelligence to enhance public safety, but with oversight from our industry-leading AI ethics board to ensure we also cherish and preserve individual rights and privacy in the balance. We are emboldened as we look to the future from our strong base of execution our team delivered this past year. In 2019, we scaled the all-new TASER 7 while implementing significant design improvements in the cartridges. We introduced the industry's first body camera with live streaming, and we went live with Axon Records. We also made significant investments in people and processes to improve future product launches. I told you in August that we had high expectations for Axon Body 3 and were planning for meaningful shipments in Q4. We delivered on that promise. Q4 revenue of $172 million was up 50% year-over-year. reflecting record volume camera shipments. About 75% of our body camera units shipped in Q4 were Axon Body 3. For the full year, we grew revenue 26% to $531 million. It feels great to top a half billion in revenue, but I'm even more focused on what this signifies. Axon products provide real value to our customers and the communities they serve. We're absolutely thrilled that customers are selecting our most meaningful integrated bundles. We're going to keep innovating on behalf of this historically underserved market, and our top line performance demonstrates that our customers are savvy and eager to adopt the latest technology. We're also very pleased with our bottom line performance. In Q4, six additional performance goals in our Exponential Stock Performance Plan for our employees became statistically probable in light of our strengthened future outlook. This did result in a significant catch-up stock compensation expense that affected GAAP net income. Excluding the impact of that, the results are pretty impressive. In Q4, we more than tripled our adjusted EBITDA over last year. And for the full year, adjusted EBITDA grew 43% to $88 million. I would again like to thank you, our shareholders, for approving our Exponential Stock Performance Plan, which aligned the entire company to the same growth goals as my CEO performance plan. I believe the strong performance and increased probability of hitting those goals are the direct result of our implementing the most innovative, widespread incentive program in any public company today. So thank you. We delivered operating leverage in 2019 even with gross margin headwinds as we sell our five-year high-value integrated bundles, which carry a lower gross margin up front but increase in years two through five. So we are successfully selling customers our highest value offerings in a true win-win scenario. But that does create some margin pressure, and we were able to deliver bottom line leverage this year regardless. We've all embraced the practice of being very intentional and strategic with our capital allocation and our R&D investment, and I feel confident that we exited 2019 the strongest we have ever been. Now Luke can talk about how in 2020 we're focused on building for scale.

speaker
Luke Larson
President

Thanks, Rick. I, too, want to congratulate our team. Our company goal was to ship 60,000 Axon Body 3 cameras in 2019 in order to support our upgrade programs as well as the demand for the new product. This was an ambitious goal, and given some of the headwinds we faced in Q2 with operations, it was really important to us as an organization to deliver on this goal for our customers as well as shareholders. Everyone executed at your end. from sales to engineering to manufacturing to operations and supply chain. And we not only made a lot of customers happy who were waiting on their new cameras, but we proved we have the muscle to meet a surge in demand even on a new product line. Not only that, we accomplished this record revenue quarter while also sequentially reducing operating expenses excluding stock comp and driving adjusted EBITDA leverage. In fact, if we exclude stock comp, SG&A was down both year over year and sequentially, and this is really a testament to our strengthened cost control muscle as well as leverage we see in our model. Looking forward, our big theme for 2020 is build for scale. This means making sure we have the right tools and people in place and that everyone stays focused on execution just like in Q4. We see ourselves as building a $2 billion revenue business, and we get there by staying focused on our mission and building upon our virtuous cycle. More users means more data, which means better products, leading to better societal outcomes, which means more users, completing the virtuous cycle. In 2020, we will continue to drive adoption of the Officer Safety Plan, which combines a taser, a body camera, and a host of mission-critical software capabilities. More than 100 agencies have adopted Officer Safety Plan 7, and more than 70% of those users are on the highest tier, which carries the most premium software features. Before I turn the call over to Jawad, I want to take a moment and talk about the coronavirus. Our operations team has been effective managing through this situation thus far, and at this time, given the current impacts, We feel that we can manage toward our full year guidance and that we have some flexibility to be adaptable. However, like every company dealing with this, we are closely monitoring this and in constant communication with our supply chain. And this may impact year end if the situation further develops. But currently, we feel good about our guidance. With that, I'll turn over the call to Jawad to talk about some of our areas of expansion for 2020.

speaker
Jawad Ahsan
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Luke. Before we move on to our 2020 outlook, I also want to take a moment and say how proud I am of our team. After a tough Q2 last year, our team spaced into the challenges and worked hard to regain ground, proving that we could deliver strong top-line growth and margin expansion in 2019. If our finish to the year reinforces anything, it's that Axon has a strong sense of accountability. Our customers are counting on us to deliver lifesaving products, and our credibility with shareholders is vitally important to us. At our investor day in November of 2017, we laid out a three-year vision for the company that showed our path to continued strong top-line growth while also turning around our declining margins. We also set a goal for ourselves to be profitable in the body camera and Dems business within three years, and we achieved that ahead of schedule. Since 2017, our revenues have grown at an annual CAGR of 26%, and our EBITDA margins have expanded to 16.5% on an adjusted basis. The body camera business is now profitable, and the Taser 7 and Axon Body 3 launches are now behind us. We are heading into 2020 with strong tailwinds on profitability that we intend to use to slingshot our way to the next phase of growth. We have built a high growth, high margin, high retention, $161 million ARR enterprise software business, and we haven't even begun recognizing revenue for Axon Records. Today, we're charting a new path for the company. We have set for ourselves a North Star that by the end of the decade, we'll have achieved the following. First, taser weapons will be the primary means to stop a threat. Second, AI enabled body cameras will eliminate the majority of manual report writing. Third, cloud enabled devices will be the primary means to dispatch officers in the field. And finally, Axon will be a household name by virtue of the transformative value we'll create for society and shareholders. From a financial standpoint, we'll also have built a business that we're targeting to deliver revenue growth of over 20% per year and achieve continued operating leverage with EBITDA margins approaching 30% on an adjusted basis. To get to these outcomes, we see a unique opportunity to accelerate the funding of some of our most promising new growth initiatives. In 2020, we'll invest over $100 million in R&D and new channel growth, excluding stock comp. An example of one such R&D initiative is Dispatch. Our goal was to bring Dispatch to market in 2020 and that team is tracking so well under the leadership of Josh Pepper that we expect to have our first paying customer live within the first half of this year. This deployment will see Axon displacing a major competitor in the Dispatch space. We expect to have a competitive Dispatch product in market and widely available by the second half. In terms of channel growth, one of our key initiatives is our investment in Federal. In 2018, we hired Richard Coleman from General Dynamics to head up our federal business, and he has led us to some terrific early wins, such as the US Forest Service and the DOJ's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. We're excited about the prospect of serving that $1.5 billion TAM, and we'll be investing more aggressively in this area going forward. While we're very excited about the momentum we're carrying into 2020, we are not stopping to celebrate. We are instead putting the pedal to the floor, and you can expect us to continue to execute with a high degree of accountability. And with that, operator, let's turn to questions.

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

And at this time, I'd like to remind everyone, if you'd like to ask a question, please hit Star 1 on your telephone keypad. Again, that is Star 1. We're opposed to reduce the amount to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Scott Berg with Needham.

speaker
Scott Berg

Hi, everyone. Congrats on a very strong quarter here. Several questions. Where do I start? Because I get one. I guess let's start on the CAD environment a little bit. I like the announcement that you're going to have the product available this year. We've done a fair amount of work kind of on this space. One of the things we found is customers are less interested in a cloud-based CAD model, at least today. Can you help us try to understand the successes that you think you're having there, at least early on? with maybe a beta customer or two in particular that can kind of untap this area that's maybe different than what they're used to today?

speaker
Rick Smith
Chief Executive Officer

Yep. Yeah, we love entering new markets where the initial customer reaction is no. When we started with electrical weapons, we heard no. When we started with body cameras, we heard no. When we started with cloud digital evidence software, we heard no. That tells us no. We have the opportunity to be first and move the market. When we think about CAD, really what they're talking about is reliability. And indeed, the reliability and uptime of the major cloud providers dwarfs what your average municipal city could do in terms of uptime themselves. So reliability really comes down to two things. The reliability of your internet connectivity. and the reliability of the system if you lose Internet connectivity. So the first one is not a huge problem to solve to have redundant Internet access through multiple carriers. And over the next few years, I think we're going to see all sorts of new ways to connect to the Internet, 5G, lower satellites in addition to ground-based systems. So that is – it is certainly a fear that customers have because I think they sort of – Think in terms of, well, sometimes I lose Internet connectivity, but that's a solvable problem. And then the other is if you do lose connection to the Internet, we've engineered our system in such a way that we've done some demos where we've watched customers' jaw hit the table when we just unplugged the Internet and the system keeps chugging away just fine. So, when we get in front of actual customers with demos, we think that that's an absolutely solvable perception issue that sets us up to, again, I think, move the market this direction. Great. Super helpful. Congrats again. Thanks. This is going much better than the Democratic debate. People are, like, limiting their questions. Great. Nice job, Scott.

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

Keep going, Carmela.

speaker
Rick Smith
Chief Executive Officer

Keep going, Carmela.

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jonathan Ho for William Blair.

speaker
Jonathan Ho

Can you hear me okay?

speaker
Rick Smith
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, we got you.

speaker
Jonathan Ho

Perfect. So when we look at your guidance for 2020, you know, how do you think about sort of, you know, the growth over the course of the year and, you know, what maybe gives you the confidence that, you know, we're going to have a little bit, you know, of a stronger second half ramp?

speaker
Josh Isner
Chief Revenue Officer

Yeah, ultimately, I think there's an element of, first of all, this is Josh Isner. Ultimately, there's an element of seasonality there where the second half does tend to be stronger as we spend the first half of the year building up the pipeline with people in newer territories. We're doing a lot to expand our channel in terms of both inside and outside sales right now. And so while we expect good results in the first half of the year, certainly similar to last year, we'll see revenue weighted toward the back half, and we're already laying the groundwork right now for that to become a reality.

speaker
Jonathan Ho

Thank you.

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from one of James Fawcett.

speaker
James Fawcett

Hi, thanks a lot. I wanted to ask, you talked about in the press release and in the prepared comments about increasing investment during the course of 2020. I'm wondering if you can provide some color as to where that investment is directed, what kind of roles, et cetera, and then what you expect the outcome in time to pay back to be on that investment, just as we're kind of calibrating. Obviously, things are going consistently. at least as well, if not a bit better than you'd expected maybe a little while ago. And so just trying to get a sense as to where you're thinking about that investment and the impact it'll have.

speaker
Jawad Ahsan
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, that's a great question. And really, that's the right way to think about it. We are making investments and expecting to leverage that into our next phase of growth. And so the investments really fall into three categories. The first one is the investment we're making in the product. And as you know, Jeff Cunnins joined us as Chief Product Officer of has just reinvigorated our product organization. And under Jeff's leadership, we've decided we're going to make investments specifically in things like dispatch, was a big one that we've highlighted as an area we're excited about for accelerating an investment, in addition to investments we're already making in products like records. The second area are channel investments. So we mentioned federal. Federal is an interesting one. That's both a product investment. There's some work we need to do to get the product ready for the federal market. But then there's also a channel investment as we build out the channel under Josh Isner and his team. And then third, Luke mentioned in his prepared remarks how we're building for scale, and a portion of the investment we're making in 2020 is also to help build a business for scale and really in some of these support functions and systems and processes that are going to really support us as the company approaches a billion dollars in revenue. And as far as the payback, that's something that – really you can see reflected in our strength and outlook over the, you know, we've got an outlook for the next few years that's reflected in the additional tranches that became probable. So we're expecting that payback certainly within the next few years.

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

And again, if you'd like to ask a question, please just throw one on your telephone keypad.

speaker
Jonathan Ho

All right, we'll do.

speaker
Rick Smith
Chief Executive Officer

We didn't hear that last question here at Axon.

speaker
Axon

Your next question comes from one of Joseph Osha.

speaker
Joseph Osha

Hello there, everyone. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay, great. Thank you. As we look into 2020, it's interesting the unit composition of your The CEW business has kind of porpoised around a bit. I'm wondering if we can expect in 2020 that mix to shift more decisively over to TASER 7. Thank you.

speaker
Josh Isner
Chief Revenue Officer

Yeah, absolutely. I think the first half of last year was a time where large and small agencies were evaluating the TASER 7, trialing it in the field for, you know, 30 to 60-day periods at a time. And, you know, that led to, you know, a little slower adoption in the first half. It obviously picked up in the second half, and we expect to continue to have momentum toward upgrading Taser customers to Taser 7. Specifically this year, we are... very, very focused as a sales team on upgrading all of our customers to two-shot devices, you know, and again, especially Taser 7. And the market is responding well to that concept, and we feel like we've got the most effective and just best overall CEW we've ever come out with. We're hearing it from our customers. There's excitement over it internationally as well, and we have a lot of confidence that we're going to have a big year with Taser 7 this year. Thank you.

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

Your next question, Councilman of Will Power with Barrett.

speaker
Barrett

Great, thanks. Yeah, I guess if I ask a question on AB3, obviously a really strong quarter, and it seems like, you know, above perhaps where expectations were, at least, you know, relative to guidance. So just kind of curious on, you know, what drove the, I guess, the upside relative to prior expectations, you know, how much of that was, you know, kind of pulled forward. And I guess kind of tied into AB3, you know, You know, any thoughts with respect to, you know, contract manufacturing impacts from coronavirus or any other supply chain impacts you call out there that give you any, you know, positive concern on meeting, you know, demand out there?

speaker
Luke Larson
President

Yeah, great question. Let me answer the first part about the general AB3 demand was driven by two primary things. One is in our bundled offerings, we have some upgrades. One is our TAP program. where they pre-signed for the second device, and so there was a lot of demand for that that we had previously sold, in addition to new demand for the product. In terms of the coronavirus, as it sits today, our ops team has been working around the clock since this broke, and we've been in communication with our supply chain, too, and had actually kind of diversified this with some of the tariff impacts earlier in the year. And so as it sits today, we've got a clear path, but this is a dynamic situation, and like everyone, you know, we're monitoring it day to day.

speaker
Rick Smith
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I would just double down. This is Rick. The significant majority of those AV3 units were part of our hardware subscription plan. So one of the great things that I believe we actually innovated as a business was this idea of combining a SaaS software with hardware with predetermined upgrades so that you get a new camera every two and a half years. And we saw the power of that, whereas, for example, with Taser 7, there was more testing and time to ramp. Whereas with AB3, because that was on an automatic upgrade plan, you know, we had tens of thousands of cameras waiting for delivery. So it really became just our ability to produce and ship. So we've been very pleasantly surprised. Maybe surprise is too strong. It's been great to see that reaction, and that's, you know, elements you can expect to see us to continue to move toward in our business. It really helps our customers, too. They want to be on the latest technology and being able to not worry about whether it's hardware or software or service, knowing that with one contract plan, with an officer safety plan, they just continually, you know, get updated to the latest capabilities.

speaker
Barrett

Great. Thank you.

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from one of Charlie Anderson with Dr. E and Company.

speaker
Charlie Anderson

Thanks for taking my question, and congrats on a great end to the year. I wanted to focus on taser gross margins. I wonder if there's a path back to 70% or so there, just what you're seeing there in terms of what's embedded in the guidance for 20 for taser gross margins. And then also on that cartridge number was very large in Q4. Just wondering what's going on there and sort of the interplay between cartridges and units moving forward. Thanks so much. Yep.

speaker
Rick Smith
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so this is Rick. So, yes, we continue to, we believe taser margins will continue to march back upward from here, heading back towards 70%. Jawad, did we give the timeframe on that or just want to stay general on the 70%? And then on the large number of cartridge shipments, so one of the things that impacted taser margins last year was we had a margin issue on the cartridges in the first half of the year. That led to the challenges in Q2, and I'm so proud of the team that they were able to not only, you know, correct those delivery challenges, but also to engineer a fair amount of cost out of the cartridges. Now, we'll really begin to see those cartridge cost savings in 2020, because once we got the cartridge redesign done, we had a lot of back orders. So the reason those cartridge sums were so high was, you know, we had cartridge production down for a good part of Q3. demand really built up into q4 so we had a very heavy margin I'm sorry a very heavy shipment quarter on cartridges and we were still struggling with higher than usual scrap as the new design came online and higher than the cost that we expect to see going forward so we expect to see significant improvements this year in margins in taser business great thank you so much

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

And again, if you'd like to ask a question, it is star one on your telephone keypad. Your next question comes from Jeff Kessler with Imperial Capital.

speaker
Jeff Kessler

Thank you. Thank you for taking the question. With regard to the integration of evidence into the entire package, at what point, you talked about the various parts of your program beginning to draw, I guess you want to call it, draw demand in, at what point do you see enough of the rest of the business out there sold as a system so that customers will be asking for evidence as opposed to you having to push sell it into them?

speaker
Luke Larson
President

uh so since 2008 we've been selling a combined digital evidence management cloud software system with the body camera and that we've been very successful at creating this category of a cloud you know cloud-based software and a connected hardware device in the last few years we've now bundled that with our taser offering as well and our latest programs include some of our advanced software capabilities like records, which are mission critical to agencies. And we're seeing a lot of demand in those bundled offerings. And when we go in, we lead with the entire capability as a service for how we can create value for the agency. And the demand is very strong, strongest for our highest value bundled offers.

speaker
Jeff Kessler

And that ultimately leads to profitability for evidence. Yes. Great. Thank you. Thank you very much. Great. Thank you.

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mike Latimore with Northland Capital.

speaker
Mike Latimore

Great. Yeah, thanks. Awesome quarter. You know, I think over the last year or so you've been building on an enterprise software sales team. I guess how many people do you have in that group and how fast do you think you might grow that this year?

speaker
Josh Isner
Chief Revenue Officer

Well, look, we're making investments across the business. Certainly we're making investments on the sales team in the field to get ready to sell additional products like records and dispatch. I think it's equally important that we're making investments on our customer success team to ensure that customers are having a great experience with us and they continue to use all of the elements of the bundles that they're buying. We're also making investments on our inside sales team and our federal channel and international. And we'll keep investing in the channel until we feel like we have full coverage across the market. And so we're going to keep adding people to make sure they have a reasonable number of accounts to manage. We're going to keep adding people to make sure that we offer the best customer experience in the market. And when that day comes, we won't need to add people anymore.

speaker
Rick Smith
Chief Executive Officer

Hey, one thing I would add, Josh, this is Rick. we we it's not like we're not building a software sales team from scratch you know 10 years ago we had the taser weapons sales team when we launched body cameras and software it was really a combined offering of body cameras and cloud software and so there uh we as we scaled up that team that team is almost entirely people that come from enterprise software sales backgrounds because that there it really is an enterprise software sale that comes with hardware attached And so that same sales team, we're continuing to expand it, but that same sales team already has that skill set and they're dealing typically with the CIOs and the people that are, at least in the more sophisticated agencies, the body cameras being driven by the IT shop that has a relationship with that sales team. So I just don't want to leave the impression that this is a new thing we're building up. We already have, I think, a very capable software sales team. We're just now arming them now with very high margin pure software plays that they can sell as well.

speaker
Josh Isner
Chief Revenue Officer

Absolutely. And we're focusing on coverage, right? Like the most important thing is these very talented salespeople have manageable territories and manageable, you know, account lists that they're able to sell into. And certainly we're doing that in a very calculated way.

speaker
Barrett

Great. Thank you.

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Keith Hewson with North Coast Research. Good afternoon, guys.

speaker
Keith Hewson

How about you guys give us an update on the record systems? Now that you guys are a few quarters into it actually being deployed, how close are you guys to actually recognizing revenue on a consistent basis with that? And perhaps you can give us an idea of how many customers you have using it and lessons learned over the past few quarters.

speaker
Jeff Cunningham
Chief Product Officer

Sure. This is Jeff. Well, first, I think, you know, I am incredibly excited. We're all incredibly excited about records for three key reasons. The first is just hands down the experience. You know, every single agency we've showed it to simply loves the Axon Records experience. It's hands down the best they've ever seen in the category, regardless of whether they're ready to switch to it yet or not. And number two is this thing we call standards. And standards is specifically the module within Axon Records that's used for use of force and internal affairs reporting. And it's a unique, fast, and high-value way for customers to immediately start using and getting value from Axon Records right now, immediately, regardless of whether they're ready to switch over their entire RMS yet. And customers love it. And as we've already seen, like we talked publicly before about Cincinnati in particular, it perfectly tees up their decision to then go all in with Axon Records as soon as they're ready to make a change. And then the third is, as we continue to build this out, is the SAM or the addressable market for the category. And I'm incredibly encouraged both by the velocity and the quality that we're building out records at, And we're on track, just to dimensionalize that for you, that by the end of 2020, we're going to be the obvious RMS choice for about half of domestic agencies, both large and small. And we're incredibly excited by the feedback we've gotten from live customers like Fresno and Cincinnati with standards. And the momentum is great, and we're super excited about it for the rest of the year. Gotcha.

speaker
Keith Hewson

So are you guys recognizing revenue already or is it still sometime in 2020 we'll see that? No, we are not recognizing revenue yet. Great. Thank you. If I can squeeze another one in here, I guess I'll be the one guy that doesn't comply with the one question rule. Can you guys help us understand what's different in terms of the federal agency that requires additional investments in the product compared to what you have currently?

speaker
Rick Smith
Chief Executive Officer

Oh, yeah, I'll take that one. So federal agencies, just the way they purchase is just really quite different. It's almost like just a different language. So having people with federal sales experience, like Richard Coleman, it's just a different animal from the talent and the sales process that happens with state and local agencies. And then there's things like getting the product through the FedRAMP certification. That took... what, two or three years and millions of dollars of investment to be compliant with the FedRAMP standard, which is not a standard that applies for the product in state and local agencies. There, we were CEGIS compliant, was a much easier standard to get to. There's just a lot more compliance load on dealing with the federal agencies. And so at this point, it's our understanding we're the only CEGIS, or I'm sorry, the only FedRAMP software product in this category. And, you know, we've now started to bring agencies online. And so, you know, we're continuing to build that out. We're also, you know, there will be times where federal agencies are going to just have additional capabilities that we'll need to invest in that might be different from some of the state and local guys. Great. Thank you.

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Berkowitz with Oppenheimer.

speaker
Andrew Berkowitz

Yeah, hey, thanks, team, for taking my question. Could you walk us through some of the mechanics around, and maybe it's already happening in this Q4 body camera number, but as we think about some of the larger agencies you've signed two, three years ago as they upgrade to the next body camera and the next TASER, Because I think a lot of the rollouts early on were phased. So will the upgrades also be phased or will those be kind of one times all at the same time? And then finally, on the back end of this question, as we start lapping some of these bigger contracts, how does the renewal process work on some of these big contracts? Thanks. Thanks.

speaker
Josh Isner
Chief Revenue Officer

Sure thing. So to answer your first question, the upgrades are generally not phased. The reason being is early on when you're deploying a new technology, onboarding a set number of users every month or so forth works really well. But then when you upgrade to a different version of the camera that has different features and different docs, you want to have parity across your whole agency using the same platform. And so all the contracts are designed to support phased rollouts up front. but then have an upgrade universally across the agency at the two and a half year mark. And so that's what we're executing on right now. In terms of renewals, we're very focused on that. And we have a lot of confidence, and we've seen last year with over 100 customers on our new OSP programs that we're effectively able to – position the value of the OSP 7 and 7 Plus offerings, and customers are very excited about that. So our sales team is very, very focused on not only renewing these customers and preparing for their renewals, but also making sure that we're demonstrating the value of new features within the bundles and, of course, an effort to convert these customers to RMS as well as part of that process.

speaker
Luke Larson
President

And I would just add one more comment on that. Oftentimes we're not waiting for the renewal to come up. Our sales team is engaged early, early in the process on, as Josh said, demonstrating the value. And so oftentimes we're able to upgrade them before the renewal even comes up. and get them on another multi-year contract on one of our higher offerings.

speaker
Andrew Berkowitz

Got it. Thank you, guys.

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

And again, if you'd like to ask a question, I would throw one on your telephone keypad. The next question comes from the line of Scott Berg with Needham.

speaker
Scott Berg

Hi, guys. I figured I'd squeeze one more, even though I was compliant on the first time. Just a follow-up question on gross margins a little bit. With the AB3 camera, obviously it was a good quarter in terms of devices that were booked and shipped. I think there's a little bit of an expectation that the gross margins on those devices would be better than some of the AB2s going forward. The gross margins in the quarter were actually a little bit worse than what we saw the last couple quarters. Can you help us understand maybe the push and pulls to move the gross margins on that product category maybe over the next one to two years?

speaker
Luke Larson
President

Yeah, great question, Scott. This is Luke. And on the AB3, it actually has a higher hardware BOM cost. So the initial gross margin is not going to be – it's actually going to be worse than the AB2. Where we made a big bet is by making that a connected camera with an LTE sensor components so that we can sell additional services. And that's the bet that we're making as an org, so much so that it's one of our key kind of company-level bonus goals is to upsell those advanced software features on top of our AB3 platform.

speaker
Rick Smith
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, and I would just add on there, as we went through our product planning, we had debated about whether to do two versions of one with LTE and one without because, as we mentioned, the majority of those shipments were cameras that were owed as part of an upgrade. And we could have shipped them a camera with much lower cost, but we felt that much more important than short-term hardware margins is we're building long-term service revenues and that it was worth that investment. And from a customer experience, we thought, well, how delighted would our customers be when they're effectively on the iPod upgrade program and they get an iPhone for no extra charge, which effectively is what's happened. They've gone from a camera to an LTE-connected camera, and we believe that now it's really about proving all of the high-value services. We can run over that connection that will be very enticing. So that's the bet we've made, and we'll just have to see how it plays out over the next couple of years.

speaker
Scott Berg

Great. Thanks, guys.

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from one of Jonathan Ho with William Blair.

speaker
Jonathan Ho

Good afternoon. So with the incremental investments that you're making, is this also maybe temporary in nature in terms of a pull forward, or should we be thinking of this as potentially a new baseline level of spend around R&D? Thanks.

speaker
Jawad Ahsan
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, it's an investment we're making in 2020, given the opportunity that we have ahead of us. And I would not expect that this level of investment would continue because, as you know, we've got these goals in place that are very ambitious. And the expectation is with the guidance laid out to try to get to a business approaching 30% EBITDA margins, that we're absolutely going to start to realize operating leverage at some point. And so I think about those investments as short-term in nature.

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

Thank you.

speaker
George

Congratulations on a great quarter. Could you give us the international revenue for the quarter and update us on how expansion has been going outside the U.S.?

speaker
Luke Larson
President

Thanks. International revenue was flat at $24 million in the quarter year over year. And, Josh, you want to add some color on that?

speaker
Josh Isner
Chief Revenue Officer

Yeah. Hey, George. So ultimately, two things to say about international. The last three years, we made a very, very focused effort to shore up what we would refer to as our tier one markets, which are the UK, Canada, and Australia. And I'm really proud of the teams in those markets for gaining a dominant market position in both CWs and in video in those markets. We feel like at this point we've earned the right to continue to invest in Tier 2 and Tier 3 markets now, and we expect some of those markets this year to develop into meaningful contributors to international revenue. Secondly, obviously we launched two new products last year domestically, Taser 7 and Axon Body 3, and we're really proud of the fact that we grew by over 30% domestically last year. You know, candidly, a lot of our focus was getting those products off the ground domestically so that this year we can get them off the ground internationally.

speaker
Rick Smith
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I would just add that typically internationally, both for TASER weapons, there can be a national approval authority. So TASER 7 will have to go through to get approval in those new markets, and that takes time that there's not that delay in the United States. And then for AB3, The LTE chips effectively to use in the U.S. are different than the ones you use in Europe. And so, again, we weren't actually offering AB3 in those international markets yet because we had to bring up a new SKU that had the appropriate wireless connectivity, and that will be coming online this year.

speaker
Josh Isner
Chief Revenue Officer

And I would say, lastly, George, that our international bookings did grow by a double-digit percentage last year. So we're certainly excited about the direction we're heading, obviously, with bookings. those do take time to translate into revenue. And so, again, the leading indicators are encouraging, and we're going to work really hard this year to grow that number.

speaker
George

Thank you for that. And I'm doing this from memory. Tier 2 markets, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, and Belgium. Is that right?

speaker
Josh Isner
Chief Revenue Officer

Most of those are correct. We've got a couple of others that we have not disclosed and don't intend to at this time. Got it. Thank you again.

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of James Fawcett with Morgan Stanley.

speaker
James Fawcett

Thank you very much. Just wanted to ask a quick follow-up. You talked about that you had taken into account a little bit the potential impact from coronavirus, et cetera. Just wondering if you can help. at least dimensionalize how much of an impact that may have had on the way that you formulated guidance or outlook for 2020. And along those same lines, just a little color, if you could, on how we should think about the relative growth rates within the different product lines and parts of the business.

speaker
Luke Larson
President

Yeah, so on the first part of your question with the coronavirus, a couple of things give us a lot of confidence that may be different from other companies. And you're probably very familiar with a lot of the consumer tech companies have said their forecasts are being impacted by this. For us, we don't sell into China at all, so there's no revenue impact there. The bulk of our orders we can kind of see into the pipeline and forecast our demand. And different from a consumer company we're doing just in time, you know, we plan this months and quarters in advance. And so that gives us a fair amount of confidence, certainly in the first half of the year, to deliver those commitments. And in the back half of the year, you know, we're putting contingency plans in place and diversifying our supply chain so that we can be adaptable to those. But there's Certainly risk there, but we've got confidence based on what we know.

speaker
Rick Smith
Chief Executive Officer

In terms of the product growth, the back half of the year, maybe I am – I would just say, you know, whereas, you know, when you've got countries going into lockdown and consumers aren't going out and buying things, that obviously is going to have a big impact on many businesses, whether they're in travel, entertainment, consumer products. Now, it's early to say because, you know, we're early in this game, but if I look at this, you know, public order – and the investments governments make in infrastructure, I would not expect those to be adversely affected. We're not relying on people going to a store to buy something. In fact, I wouldn't say that there could be any positive headwinds, but, you know, there may be public order implications when you start talking about the things that are happening in Italy with significant levels of quarantines, et cetera. So we don't have any indications of any negative demand impact from coronavirus. I'd say most of what we would – we're more focused on is just making sure we don't get supply chain impacts because we do have, you know, some suppliers in Asia, but we feel we've got that pretty well at hand right now.

speaker
Josh Isner
Chief Revenue Officer

And then in terms of growth by category, I don't think we're going to disclose a lot here at the moment, other than we expect CEW to grow by double-digit percentages this year. And, of course, we've given the revenue guidance already, and so certainly more color to come on that as we get through the year here.

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

Thanks. Your next question comes from the line of Joseph Osha with JMP Securities.

speaker
Joseph Osha

Hey, I got that going. I kind of feel like Amy Klobuchar right at the end of the debate. I wanted to ask a little bit about something we haven't talked as much about, which is some of the consumer CEW stuff. I know that's something, Joad, that we had talked about when I was down there. Is this an area that we might see more focus on in the coming year?

speaker
Jawad Ahsan
Chief Financial Officer

In 2020, no, we're very focused. So 2019 was an important year for us for launches on the devices, Taser 7, Body 3. And in 2020, we're focused on software. Consumer is still very important to us. This is one of the reasons I joined the company, was to help Rick make the bullet obsolete. And consumer is very much a part of that. It's a part of our strategy going forward, and we hope to share some exciting updates on that in the future. But at this point in 2020, we're not making any additional investment in that other than what we're already doing.

speaker
Joseph Osha

Okay. Thank you.

speaker
Carmely
Conference Operator

And at this time, I'd like to turn the call back over to management for closing remarks.

speaker
Rick Smith
Chief Executive Officer

Awesome. Hey, thanks, everybody. Obviously, I couldn't be prouder of the team. You know, we hit some significant challenges at the middle of the year. You know, we had conversations with a lot of folks wondering if we were going to be able to pull it out. And, you know, we said, We're committed to hitting what we said we were going to hit for the year. And I got to tell you, there was a lot of hard work that went into that. I just couldn't be prouder of the team. And there were a lot of smiles, you know, as we rolled into December and we were able to meet good on our commitment. So just want you guys to know a lot of people put blood, sweat, tears, a lot of heart into making sure that we met our commitments. And thanks for sticking with us. And we're really excited to see what we can show you and results here in 2020. So with that, have a great day, and we'll talk to you on the next quarterly call.

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