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Axon Enterprise, Inc.
2/25/2021
Hello, everyone. Welcome to Axon's fourth quarter 2020 earnings conference webinar. I'm Andrea Jane, Senior Vice President of Corporate Strategy and Investor Relations. This is actually our fourth quarterly earnings over Zoom, so it's great to see faces again. Today we have Axon CEO Rick Smith, President Luke Larson, CFO Jawad Ahsan, Chief Revenue Officer Josh Isner, and Chief Product Officer Jeff Cunnings. First, we're going to give prepared remarks, and then we'll bring all of our analysts up into gallery view for Q&A. I hope you all had a chance to read our shareholder letter, which was released after the market closed. You can find it at investor.axon.com. Our remarks today are meant to build upon the information in that robust letter. If for some reason we lose Internet or Zoom connectivity, we'll make every effort to post a copy of our prepared remarks to investor.axon.com. During this call, we will discuss our business outlook and make forward-looking statements. Any forward-looking statements made today are pursuant to and within the meaning of the safe harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These comments are based on our predictions and expectations as of today and are not guarantees of future performance. All forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially. These risks are discussed further in our FCC filings. Finally, we really encourage you all to look at our updated ESG and corporate social responsibility report, which we published today in conjunction with our earnings. We are increasingly conscious of our social and corporate responsibility as our company and our shareholder base grows, and we're pleased to share this comprehensive report with you. Angel Ambrosio, whom you're familiar with on this call, is our senior manager of investor relations and ESG, and we welcome you to reach out to us on this topic that's interesting to you. Okay, go ahead, Rick.
Thanks, Andrea. Hi, everybody. I want to start by talking about 2020. The conventional narrative is that 2020 was a terrible year. I'd like to offer a different perspective. Challenging times bring out the best in humanity. These are the times that inspire us to rise up, to overcome, to stretch ourselves. The hardest times become our finest hours. If we choose to focus on the negative There was plenty to see in 2020. But if we look harder, we can see so many signs of hope and progress. Supercharged by a global plague, nations sprung into the kind of arms race we should want to see, competing ferociously to cure a pandemic. And we all know the result. Multiple vaccines developed 10 times faster than ever before. We adapted to a world where travel was simply off the table. So we virtualized ourselves and we learned to Zoom around the world for business. And we got to see our kids for dinner every night. My customer engagement has jumped more than tenfold as customers are now open to video conferencing. And we've enjoyed seeing you, our analysts, and our investor community face-to-face in our new quarterly conference Zoom calls. I don't mean to minimize the pain we all experienced in 2020. I understand and I shared it. My mother passed away recently. days before Christmas after contracting COVID. But even in that sorrow came progress as we came together and we healed some fractured relationships within our own family. I would not have chosen for 2020 to turn out as it did. In fact, as we've said before, we don't get to choose what the world throws at us, but we can choose how we respond. The urgency resulting from the intense social strife of 2020 is accelerating the world's readiness to move beyond bullets to a world where killing each other is no longer something we simply accept as some immutable facet of human society. It is supercharged our energy as we redouble our efforts to deliver taser energy weapons that will outperform a traditional sidearm before this decade is out. And our customers are embracing this goal. They have told us that the bar will be very high, but I'm confident our team will deliver. 2020 was also a year where Acton delivered incredible value to our customers and the communities they serve. As you can see, you can see it in our results. We knew that adversity would present opportunities for those individuals and those organizations that are nimble and adaptable. Just as ice ages create breakout opportunities for adaptable species to explosively grow in their aftermath. In the weeks following the arrival of COVID in North America, we transformed our offices into adjunct manufacturing spaces, allowing us to spread out, create social distance, and continue to deliver exceptional results that far exceeded our most optimistic expectations. We didn't just deliver on our operational goals, we significantly outperformed them. I'm personally humbled by our team's ability to deliver exceptional results in a year filled with so much turmoil and adversity. We exceeded our goals and exited 2020 better positioned than we've ever been before from an operational, strategic, and financial perspective. Here's a few highlights. We inked our first two programs of record with the federal government, including a $13 million U.S. Customs and Border Protection Order for body cameras and digital evidence management. In the fourth quarter, we signed our largest case of contract in company history, a $20 million order for Taser 7 from an international customer, eclipsing our record $15.5 million Taser order from the Department of Homeland Security in the prior quarter. In 2020, we passed $1 billion in total bookings, with the majority of that coming from our core market of state and local public safety. In 2020, we also delivered the largest single contract deal in company history, a $46 million officer safety plan with one of our major city customers. On the product side, we launched auto-transcribe, deployed customers on both respond and records, debuted unique new capabilities like priority-ranked video audit, and shipped countless cloud software and device firmware improvements. At Axon, we're continuing to look forward. We had a recent executive planning session where we asked ourselves, where do we want to be at the end of this decade? And our answer was simple. Our vision is to be globally synonymous with our mission of protecting life by building the world's largest and most trusted network of safety devices and services. What an amazing opportunity to be part of such a talented team with such an aspirational mission. I'd like to conclude by telling you what I'm hearing from our customers today. They see us as a key partner to transforming public safety. We hear stories daily about customers using our products to save lives and to protect communities. Our net promoter scores are hitting new highs, and our customers are actively and enthusiastically supporting our mission to make the bullet obsolete so that officers will no longer have to make the most terrible of choices. We know that we're welcoming a lot of new shareholders onto our growth journey, so thank you for joining us and taking an interest. And with that, I'd like to turn over the call to our president, Luke Larson.
Thanks, Rick. As 2020 showed us, a lot that happens in this world is outside of our control. Against that backdrop, Axon employees really showed up and gave their best in the areas that mattered most. I want to give an emphatic thanks to all of our employees. Thank you. At Axon, we've built an amazing team, and that talent is a huge asset and competitive advantage that doesn't show up on the balance sheet. Our team is laser focused on a clear mission, inspired by our purpose, and leaning in with an owner's mindset with a maniacal focus on delivering value for our customers. In 2020, we focused on our commitment to the mission, to our customers, and to caring for the health and safety of our employees. In 2020, Axon was able to outperform in a difficult year because we built a phenomenal team. Looking to the future, our company has the talent, infrastructure, and capabilities to manage challenging environments and thrive. The company earned this position over three decades by taking risks, making bold decisions, investing hundreds of millions of dollars in research and development, countless hours of engineering, tens of thousands of hours of customer meetings, and most importantly, maintaining an unfaltering commitment to our mission. As we look to 2021, we have four key objectives. One, grow the core. Two, scale new products. Three, unlock new markets. And four, drive efficiency to fuel growth. We're also taking care of the amazing team that we've built. Our employees' health and growth remains a top priority. We recently added Ginger, a mental health app, providing 24-7 support to our employees, as well as rolled out LinkedIn Learning to the entire company. In 2021, we will continue to look for ways to support our working parents and caregivers. In 2021, We'll continue to invest in our people, products, and sales channel, helping individuals level up, aim higher, and push harder to make our mission a reality. I'll close out by talking about one of the areas of added investment, which allows us to go after a $2 billion total addressable market, and that is our investment in virtual reality training. As a former military officer, I saw how the DOD's near-unlimited budget can create amazing training, like mock towns filled with thousands of Arabic-speaking actors, huge multi-group trainings, as well as unmatched simulator training that pilots use for flight training. In law enforcement, though, they don't have the luxury of these enormous budgets or the benefit of having the majority of their time available to training. With virtual reality, we can leverage the best-in-class instructors and training to create scenarios that can be used across hundreds of thousands of officers, bringing the cost down to a very economical price that can democratize training and Axon is poised to be a leader in creating this new category, just like we've done with the Taser devices, our Axon body cameras, our digital system, evidence.com. And we're going to do it again. with virtual reality and training. In 2021, we intend to transform how agencies train our officers by addressing the inefficiencies around the classroom, role-playing and simulator training, and by leveraging VR, we can address their two biggest issues, budget and time. We'll accomplish this through three avenues. First, we have an exciting product launch that we can't say more on, but it is coming soon. Second, we intend to regularly release new training modules, and third, We are doubling down on our community engagement training curriculum. We're seeing encouraging signs on the management of this product, and we're excited about where it can go. Earlier, I talked about the amazing team and culture we built at Axon. Before I hand it over to our CFO, Jawad Hassan, if you want to learn more about that culture, I recommend you check out his book, What They Didn't Tell Me. You can get it on Amazon. So with that, let me turn it over to our CFO, Jawad Hassan.
Thanks, Luke. I want to start by talking about the number 28. I'm not referring to the number of days in this month, but rather three important milestones we hit as a company this quarter. We delivered 28% growth on revenue over 2019, 28% compound annual growth in revenue over the last five years, and we finished the year with 28% in adjusted EBITDA margins. Now, before I dive deeper into these, I want to talk about something else, the perception of our two business segments. We've discussed with you at great length the investments we've been making in our pivot to a tech-enabled solutions company. The perception of our software and sensor segment is best described by letting the numbers speak for themselves. Year over year, total revenues in this segment grew 26%, and our ARR grew 37%. When I joined Axon in 2017 and our stock price was at $22, many investors told me that they view our stock as appropriately valuing our Taser device business with the free option on a high-growth software business. I think it's safe to say that we're now seeing some value in our stock price for our software business. But what about that Taser devices segment, the one that's been around since 1993? Was there maybe a perception that its best days are behind it? If so, we shattered that perception with our 2020 results. Our taser weapon segment grew revenues 30% year over year, outpacing even our fast-growing software and sensor segment. We're very proud of the taser energy devices that we've built and believe that there's still a large base of untapped customers who have yet to adopt. So the 28% revenue growth over 2019 was really fueled by strength across the board in body-worn cameras, in software, and especially in taser devices. We feel that this validates our strategy to invest aggressively in both R&D and channel expansion. R&D to stay ahead of the innovation curve in all of our product segments and channel investments that will unlock new markets and new geographies. We're going to run this play again in 2021. When we look back over the past five years and the 28% take around revenue, that's also the result of investments we've been making along similar lines. As we look ahead to the next five years, we're very excited by the next wave of new products and technologies that are going to become an important part of our growth story in their own right. Technologies like VR, which Luke just talked about earlier, and we feel can have a transformative impact on the critical area of training for law enforcement. Technologies like Axon Respond and our live streaming platform. What's particularly exciting with this one is the interest we're seeing outside of our core law enforcement market. For example, coronavirus and the vaccine rollout is top of mind for communities all over the world. A municipal security unit in Chile has been trialing Axon Respond live streaming to ensure the quality and security of the supply chain and transportation process for COVID-19 vaccine distribution in their communities. Another technology we're excited about is our new ERP and CRM. Many people across Axon are working incredibly hard on upgrading these critical support systems and their associated processes, and they're already driving huge efficiencies as the early modules come online. Luke also talked about the importance of driving efficiencies to fuel growth, and we're laying the foundations today for a company that will be able to scale to a billion dollars in revenue and well beyond. Now, you might be wondering, Why am I choosing to highlight our new ERP along with sexier technologies like VR and live streaming? And I'm doing it to highlight something I can sum up in one word, discipline. We have our sights set on some lofty goals by 2030, as Rick mentioned, but our feet are firmly planted in the here and now. I'm so proud of the discipline we exhibit as a company on a day-to-day basis. In our capital allocation decisions, our budgeting, our execution decisions, This is a team that is absolutely dialed in and ready to build on our momentum and take our company to even greater heights. And with that, we're going to turn it over to questions.
Thank you, Jawad and team. Let's take our first question from Jonathan Ho at William Blair. Go ahead, Jonathan.
Hi there. Just let me just start out with sort of the tremendous quarter and year that international had. Can you maybe talk about what is driving sort of that increased demand, and is there sort of a broader mindset shift that you're seeing with, you know, either how agencies or national police forces are starting to look at this either?
Thanks, Jonathan, for the question. Ultimately, I think it's just a lot of hard work and execution that our team is putting in. You know, a few years ago, we said we were going to continue to focus on Tier 1 markets until we felt really good about earning the right to go into Tier 2 and 3 markets. And now we're starting to see that kind of mechanism pay off. And this was a foundational year in 2020 in some of our Tier 2 markets. We're seeing new markets buy tasers at high volumes, and we're extremely excited for that trend to continue this year. And so we're really focused on growing the taser business and then earning the right to expand into other product lines in these markets, and we're going to continue to execute day-to-day toward that end.
Got it. And just as a follow-up, have state and local government pressures, you know, created any sort of headwinds in terms of your pipeline of opportunity, or is it actually the reverse where maybe this is, you know, opening up some opportunities for achieving your strong value proposition? Thank you.
You know, I don't – I can't really offer an opinion on that, to be honest. I think it's more just, you know, we're focused on covering the market as best we can, not only in state and local, but in federal and international as well. And by doing that, certainly we feel like we have the best products in law enforcement and public safety, and we're going to continue to tell that story and make customers very happy and turn them into evangelists for our company. And regardless of what pressures may or may not exist in any given year, we think that's the long-term winning formula. Thank you.
Thank you, Jonathan. And analysts, we do, we have you all in the queue. We added you one by one as you joined the call this afternoon, so we've got you. No need to do the hands raise, but we appreciate the questions. Okay, Will Power from Baird is our next question. Go ahead, Will.
All right, great. Yeah, this is a bit of a follow-up, I guess, to the previous question in the international comments. We're just looking at Taser, obviously just a huge quarter. Any other color you can provide on the key underpinnings there as you look at the upside and the quarter? Where was the upside surprise if it was? Obviously, you have the one big customer, but what's broad-based more than that? Is it tied to certain geographies, certain types of local agencies versus federal? Anything else you'd call out with respect to that taser strength?
Yeah, sure. So I think we had some visibility into some large deals in Q4, but, you know, not to get too specific, but some of the challenges in this environment are making sure we can deliver and get acceptance in short periods of time. And we did get the order in time in Q4, and we're able to deliver it. We viewed that as kind of a 50-50 proposition there. in early November. The team did a fantastic job executing. But behind that one large order, there was a series of kind of midsize orders in international across all three geographies, the America, EMEA, and APAC. And I think it just speaks to the work the team is doing to really focus in on markets that are now ready to move to more but less lethal solutions. And, again, we believe we can parlay that into body camera adoption and records management adoption and virtual reality adoption and so forth over the long term.
If I just take a question for Luke, you know, I know as you talked about the key 2021 objectives, you had, you know, four key ones. One of them was scaling new products. I wonder if maybe if you could just update us with respect to records and respond. You know, what are you putting in place to accelerate growth there? What does that, you know, cadence of opportunities look like as you kind of move through, you know, 2021 here?
Yeah, I think, well, you know, we're seeing a lot of interest from our customers, specifically around the entire kind of Axon industry. portfolio, where we see the biggest adoption of these capabilities is in our officer safety plans that we offer. I'm going to turn it over to Jeff Cunningham who's got a little more color on the specific product details.
Sure. Hey, thanks so much for the question. So, on records, you know, we continue to be incredibly pleased with our momentum in records. A latest good Data point is that 40 agencies have now signed or are in deployment or are live on one or more modules of records, including more than a dozen who have committed to full replacement of their legacy RMS. In addition to that, within that, early momentum with major cities specifically continues. Two recent examples are that Atlanta actually went live on the standards use of force module of records in Q4. And Baltimore, which has, you know, been publicly announced before as an upcoming full records customer, is on track for their deployment this year. So we're incredibly excited about the continued progress. accelerating momentum there. Also, as you saw in the shareholder letter on respond for devices, you know, we had 7X growth in live streaming and other aspects of engagement of the product over the last six months and continue to really see really strong adoption of all aspects of respond for devices across the footprint. And as Rick talked about in the beginning, some of the key further additions we're making to the product line that compound the value of all those pieces together that we're most excited about include auto transcribe. So now that our auto transcribe, you know, unlimited package is out, it powers a whole variety of scenarios, including not just accelerating evidence management, but also new capabilities like priority ranked video audit, which really helps agencies use the data that's underneath their body camera video to help them with making sure that they're compliant with policy and helping make them make their body-worn camera programs more effective than ever. Thank you.
Thanks. Well, really appreciate it. Next question from Jeremy Hamlin at Craig Hallam. Go ahead, Jeremy.
Thanks, Andrea. Congratulations on an incredible year to the team. I wanted to come back to the international for a second where you clearly have a ton of momentum. I think this is probably directed towards Josh. Just in understanding the international sales cycle, which has typically been longer over the years, it does seem like with the momentum that potentially there's greater urgency being seen with the customers that you're talking to. But I wanted to get a sense on whether or not that international sales cycle is starting to compress. And if you're realizing these contracts sooner or this is just, you know, reaping the fruit of, you know, a number of years of laying foundation. But it does feel like that sales cycle is compressing a little bit.
Yeah, certainly. Thanks, Jeremy. I think it is compressing a little bit. And I think the other element we have is we've added to our international team pretty substantially over the last three or four years. I think it's probably started around 10 people in 2016 that were direct sellers. And we've multiplied that by two or three at least. And the result of that is we just have more activity in the pipeline quarter to quarter. So that pipeline is starting to come into fruition. And you know, there's certainly an element of the sales cycle seems to be speeding up a little bit, but we just have way more opportunities now every quarter, and certainly it relieves a little bit of pressure off fewer opportunities, and we have more ways to get there now, which feels great, and we're going to continue to focus on building that out and we're making some investments again this year in certain markets to create even more momentum, and hopefully we'll continue to see that trend in the years to come.
Great. And I wanted to ask, I know you can't provide a ton of details around the new product launch, but historically when you've had, you know, major product launches, you take a little bit of a step back. on the margin front, investment being made both on the, you know, the sales side of the equation, but obviously also some in R&D. I just wanted to get a sense in terms of, you know, the revenue base as a whole is significantly larger than it's been in the past. And just to get a sense for, you know, if there is going to be some margin drag this year, you know, can you quantify, can you give us a sense of the magnitude of As you look at, you know, both what sounds like an entirely new product launch, but also some of the other, you know, whether it's records, you know, developments or dispatch, whatnot, the potential drag that you might see on margins.
I'll take this one. Jeremy, it's a good question. We are not expecting any margin drag from the new products that we're launching. We're actually expecting some margin expansion. You know, in 2020, we were looking at some of the headwinds that we had on Taser. We also had some customer mix as far as international customers. and that's behind us, and so in this year, even with the new products we're launching, for some of the newer ones specifically like VR, there's a little bit of a drag from a hardware perspective, but it's so small, it's supposed to be negligible overall. We're not expecting any drag.
Last one for me real quick. Supply chain. So as you've gotten more federal contracts and so forth and, you know, obviously we know how, you know, you're producing tasers and the cameras. Has there been any pressure to, you know, alter, you know, your supply chain? Is that something that you're considering, you know, down the road, you know, on where you're sourcing cameras and how the cameras are coming?
We've got... You know, decades of experience producing our TASER devices were ITARs restricted, which means you have to manufacture in the U.S., and so we feel really, really good about that process. You know, on the camera side, it's something that we definitely keep an eye on. As it sits today, we still feel really, really good with the way that we manufacture and kind of load the final firmware on the product. And so I don't see anything from kind of the supply chain side. I would defer to Josh if he's hearing anything from the customers.
Yeah, I think we're in a fantastic position inventory and supply chain-wise. Our customers have been delighted that we've really at times accelerated the speed at which we're able to deliver large deals, and that's a huge accomplishment. credit to Josh Goldman and our entire operations team. They're just doing a fantastic job supporting our customers. And this is actually, you know, over the years the best I've ever felt about our ability on the supply chain and logistics side to please customers. So I'm really, really bullish going into this year in that regard.
Great. Congrats and best wishes this year. Thanks.
Thank you, Jeremy. Next question from Eric Lipinski at Morgan Stanley. Go ahead, Eric.
Hi, thanks, and congrats on the quarter. Last month you announced a deal with a private security company, and I guess I'm just wondering what kind of opportunity do you think that market can represent? Are you seeing interest from other private customers, or is that maybe a one-off type deal that wouldn't be something we could see again, and are there investments you could make to attack that?
Yeah, absolutely. It's a great call out. Last year, our private security business doubled. And the only thing that really changed was a little more focus on it. We have a team led by Mike Shore that is divided between private security and enterprise use cases. And this year, that team is really focused on at least doubling, hopefully tripling that private security number again. and building out our first group of customers in non-law enforcement use cases. So we're really excited about both of those opportunities to expand the TAM and really find ways to generate returns on cameras for businesses outside of public safety.
Got it. That's helpful. And then maybe if I could just kind of squeeze one on the dispatch side. I know you had – mentioned kind of over the last few quarters that you're building in incremental capabilities, and, you know, maybe that would be a holdoff for certain customers that started adopting that. I guess just wondering, like, where you are with that. You know, do you feel that the product is there? Is there enough of a roadmap for even a larger police department to kind of see it and potentially hold off on a replacement to migrate to you? Or I guess just, I know it's early, but anything you want to say that's on there?
Sure. Thanks, Eric. It's a great question. I think first, like we said before, Dispatch and really more broadly this idea of respond of a real-time operations platform is a multi-year journey, and so we're very confident that over the next, you know, three to five years, we're going to wind up being number one in what's traditionally called the legacy, you know, computer-aided dispatch market, but our sites are, you know, even broader and more ambitious than that. But as Jawad said earlier, our feet are also very firmly planted in the present. And so, like, right now, today, as you know, we have one OneCity live on our dispatch platform, and we have multiple more that are signed and sold and in the queue for deployment over the course of this year and going forward. So we feel very good about that pipeline. Just like we talked about records, and really in any software category where you have an insurgent trying to unseat legacy competitors, which in this case we're the insurgent, You know, there's this journey of building up in the right way the capabilities needed to be the right fit for each successive chunk of the market, while adding on top of that your unique differentiation that makes you a compelling reason to switch. And that's just – that has nothing to do with Axon or CAD or records. That's just the physics of any, you know, disruptive insurgent, you know, category like this. And we feel really good about where we're positioned and where we're going, even though it's early. And in the case of dispatch, the sort of sequence or ladder there is first being great for law enforcement only PSAPs, as opposed to ones that also do fire and medical for sort of the midsize cities. And then actually after that, gearing up to also cover fire and medical, which we're actively working on this year. and then ultimately to be not only the largest cities but the multi-jurisdiction PSAPs. So we feel fantastic about our trajectory, but it is early in that journey, but we need to keep you apprised as we win and deploy customers along that way. Let me jump in as well.
I want to share a story. I talked to a police chief. of the first agency, I believe, in the world, certainly in the United States, that is live streaming every call in the dispatch video live stream. And it was just so rewarding to have that phone call to hear the things that we had been imagining come to pass. And the way that she shared with me was, it's just a total game changer. They found dispatchers are actually helping the officers in real time. He told me a story where the dispatcher heard a thud that the officer didn't, right, because the officer is in the scene. They've got tunnel vision. Sometimes they're focused on their own safety. The dispatcher is sort of a dispassionate aide. Well, it turned out the thud in that case was a gun had been dropped. The person in the car dropped it and tried to kick it under the seat. the officer, the dispatcher told the officer, hey, you know, I heard something. You should check. And they discovered there was a gun, and obviously that's a pretty important, you know, piece of information the way that it's unfolding. The other thing that they shared with me was that by having the dispatchers watch the call, they just have far greater understanding than when they're just listening to a few cryptic transmissions over the radio. and they're getting real-time oversight of every incident. So you think about, you know, everything that happened last year, and now there's discussion about, well, how do the agencies pick the right videos to have a subsequent supervisor review? In this agency, they're reviewing every video, not by a supervisor, but by a dispassionate dispatcher. And you can imagine if someone was saying something like, I can't breathe, That could be reacted to right now where the dispatcher could say, hey, I need a supervisor to check this out and see what's going on in real time, not find out weeks later that that was happening. So it's that sort of core transformative new capability that we are uniquely able to position. And you'll probably guess there's a little bit of a dynamic tension between me and Jeff, who keeps me honest, where it's like, hey, we need to do the things he was talking about there. We've got to deliver on the core functions of what they need to be a functioning system today and blend in the right amount of these new capabilities. You've got to kind of have both. And it's just a wonder having Jeff on the team. He's really shepherding us through that process of how we blend things the right mix of legacy features with the right mix of new features to be transformative and effective at displacing existing incumbents.
One last tiny bit just to put all that together. It's exactly that combination of why we declare Respond and this idea of a real-time operations platform. That's the real category. You know, historical CAD is cute. Real-time operations platform is skating to where the puck is going. And from a business and this insurgent standpoint, the key is just like how with records, an agency can adopt standards, our use of force module of reps, side-by-side with their legacy RMS, even before they might be ready to make a full migration. Respond for devices, what we used to call AWARE, what Rick was just referring to, our live streaming, any PSAP. in conjunction with their law enforcement agency, can easily deploy Respond for Device right in their PSAP alongside their legacy CAD, even if they aren't ready to switch over for their full CAD. But that not only gets them into these scenarios earlier, but it also gets them acculturated to our experience, and we think that's ultimately an accelerator as to when they're ready to consider a full migration.
Yeah, that's awesome. Thanks for sharing that example. I mean, that's definitely the vision coming to life. So congrats. Thanks, Eric.
Thank you, Eric. Next question from Derek Soderberg at Collier's. Go ahead, Derek.
Thanks, Andrea. So I wanted to start with consumer taser. You know, it looks like that was pretty strong again this quarter. I was wondering if you can sort of elaborate on what drove that strength again. You know, I know there have been some tailwinds. you know, due to the pandemic and some other things that happened in 2020. Just curious as to your thoughts on that business as we sort of, you know, move past that a little bit. You know, how sustainable is consumer taser strength? And, you know, I guess maybe longer term, if you can update us on, you know, the strategy there to penetrate this, you know, the non-lethal weapons market.
Yeah, thanks for the question. Our consumer business doubled in revenues year over year, 2020 over 2019. And some of that early in the year was the pandemic and some of the just overall lift in, you know, firearm sales, and we were certainly a beneficiary of that. We did put a new general manager of the consumer business in place around second quarter last year, and he's really up-leveled our game. He has a marketing background, Matt Angorn. He's got a very strong background in marketing, and he's tried some new things for us that actually had – a very immediate effect. And we've seen that momentum continue into 2021, which is how we know it's not a fluke. We've got some pretty lofty goals for the consumer business. We've got two new products that we're bringing to market by the end of this year. And longer term, our ambition as a company is still to make the Bulldogs lead. And that doesn't just happen with building a better taser device for law enforcement. We're planning on building a you know, a consumer device that also does the same thing. And then I want to turn over to Rick and let him talk a little bit about his vision as well.
Yeah, so we started this business back in 1993. The original Taser was already being sold to police. Our original business model was to go out for consumer for two reasons. One, it is where we can actually do even more moral good by saving lives. Police officers are involved in hundreds of lethal force incidents every year. But private citizens shoot and kill 35,000 to 40,000 of each other every year. So we can save the most lives if we can have impact there. And from a market scale perspective, it's frankly just a much larger market. So even the Glock handgun that is ubiquitous in law enforcement has a far larger both dollar and unit volume than they sell in the consumer market. So we're committed both for the business reasons and for the mission and North Star reasons to see the consumer continue to grow. And I think part of that, I personally believe we will hit a tipping point when we can actually prove that we can outperform a standard nine millimeter, that that is going to be transformative, not only in our core U.S. law enforcement, I think every other police agency around the world. Like, I don't want to start naming off countries here, but pretty much any country is not going to have the same relationship with guns that Americans do. So let's just take Iceland as an example. If we could outperform their block handguns, all of a sudden I think we could become the standard weapon. And I just think that is a totally random country. But you go around the world and I think, The minute that we can actually say this could replace your firearm, every police force that carries a firearm is now a customer, and they're going to be under tremendous political and moral pressure to use the better, safer thing that saves lives. I think that also opens up the consumer market. So I think we're in the early innings. We entered law enforcement in 1999. to prove the technology worked so we could reenter the consumer market. And that play has still not played out yet. And I'd also like to say we moved consumer under Jawad a couple years ago, and he gets a lot of credit for breathing new energy in, bringing Matt Angorn in. And this is kind of Jawad's – one of his passion projects is helping us in the consumer space.
Great. Thank you for all the detail on that. And as my follow-up, Rick – You know, last quarter you had sort of mentioned a conversation you had had with, you know, a U.S. congressperson. You know, I guess now with the new administration, you know, new representatives, I guess I'm curious as to how, you know, those conversations have evolved over the last quarter. You know, are you sort of feeling that same sense of optimism around maybe sort of a, you know, sweeping police reform bill that, you know, includes body cams or, you know, how has your sort of sense of optimism changed?
Well, my sense of optimism is pretty dauntless. If anything, sometimes I need some people to make sure I keep my feet grounded. I would say this, though. I think that the trends towards body cameras and less lethal weapons and all the things we're doing is really more ground up. There's certainly been some talk about whether there's going to be a legislative action at the federal level. You know, I don't want to guess on that. I mean, that would obviously could be very helpful if it happens. But that's nowhere in our plans. We think we are just continuing to win the hearts and minds of agencies and communities and the end user by delivering stuff that saves their careers, saves their lives, saves them, you know, all the trauma of having to deploy legal force or having their integrity questioned when something controversial happens and knowing they can defend themselves with a body camera. So I think I wouldn't say anything has changed, positive or negative, at the political level. I think, you know, we're just continuing to see that groundswell from the state and local. That's where these decisions really get made. Great. Thanks so much. Awesome. Great questions.
Okay. Thank you, Derek. Our next question is from Keith Husam at North Coast. Go ahead, Keith. Keith, you're up next, and you're muted. There you go.
Sorry about that. I just want to echo, guys, congratulations again on the quarter and the great year. If I can dig down a little bit deeper on the tasers for the year, obviously tremendous growth. How much of that growth is coming from the nontraditional state and local agencies? I know you guys have been talking about a number of different initiatives in terms of federal and jails and corrections and the security, but if it's time to provide a little bit of cover and break it out between, I guess, the old sources of revenue as well as the new.
Yeah, absolutely. I appreciate the question, Keith. International certainly was a big driver of CW weapons growth. I think we've talked about that to a large extent already. Federal also is a place where we had a good year last year in terms of some new agencies coming on board with some of our newer CEWs. This year, we certainly expect to see more of that in our federal business. We're really excited about a couple of the CEW opportunities that are out there. And then state and local with really hitting our stride with Taser 7. State and local bookings, it's a market we hear every year questions about, hey, is the growth slowing down? Is it flattening out? And last year, state and local bookings were up almost 30%. And so that was – I would say – a pretty equal weighting between body cameras and tasers. And so I think across all segments of the market, the team is doing just an exceptional job of making sure that we continue to grow the taser line. We certainly believe, like, every single law enforcement officer is better served carrying a taser than not. And until that happens, we've got a lot of work to do to bring that into fruition. So that's really what we're focused on, not only in federal or international, but also in state and local where there's still plenty of room to go there.
Okay. Appreciate it. And I would be remiss if I didn't ask a question about the guidance. The guidance for the full year next year is about 12% growth year over year. You obviously got some great tailwinds at your back, but you're obviously still going against some huge numbers that you're talking about. If I look at cartridges, I look at the consumer devices, obviously some big tailwinds for you. And you guys have never grown only 12%, I think, at least in the recent history ever. What gives you indication that revenue growth is going to actually slow down so much year over year?
Yeah, we're certainly not done. In the last couple of years, you've seen growth in the mid to high 20s. You've also seen that those years tend to be back-end loaded. Q3 and Q4 combined are usually significantly higher than Q1 and Q2 combined. And so as we think about it, it's early February. We're certainly trying to sell far more than 760, and that's our goal every year is to exceed our growth rate of the previous year. But having said that, we haven't seen the pipeline materialize for the back half to the point where where we can be, you know, a little more aggressive on our guidance. And, you know, in quarter one, we have to be responsible and disciplined about how we guide. And so, this is something we're going to revisit every quarter. And as that back out pipeline materializes, you'll certainly hear more about that as it's happening. But on day one here, we're starting with 760. And like I said, though, you know, we got, and like you said, we have a lot of tailwinds and We're really focused on another great year in revenue.
Okay. Appreciate it.
Thank you. Okay. Anybody have anything to add? Okay. So we're not seeing any slowdown. Just want to make that clear. Thank you.
Andrea, I actually might piggyback on that from a standpoint for guidance, just to think about that, provide some more context. Ever since I joined Axon, it's been really important to me that we're demonstrating both growth on our top line as well as driving leverage on our bottom line. And we've not only done exactly that over the last few years, but it's also been a central tenet of our long-term guidance, as you know. So it's super important to us that we're continuing to invest to stay ahead of the innovation curve. That's, you know, another sort of thing that we're trying to solve for. So every year we put together an operating plan or a budget that's trying to solve for those three things, top line growth, driving leverage, and investing for growth. And it's actually super hard to do, but we've got a very talented management team, and that's what we've been doing. However, one of the dynamics, as Josh had pointed out, of our business is that our revenue profile throughout the year is back half-weighted, and even then it's really more concentrated in Q4 than in Q3. So what happens is if we hit our revenue targets, our EBITDA comes in on plan, on our internal plan, and we drive that little bit of incremental margin expansion while still having invested in things like R&D or the channel. But if we beat our revenue targets, especially in the fourth quarter, it's too late in the year to reinvest that upside. So we return it to shareholders, which is exactly what you saw this past quarter. So that's how you should be thinking about it from an EBITDA standpoint, Keith. Our base plan is solving for top-line growth, incremental leverage, and investing for growth. And to the extent that we exceed on the top line, that will allow us to drive even more leverage.
Got it. Thank you.
Thanks, Jalad. Okay, last question, I believe, unless anybody has follow-ups, is from Scott Berg at Needham. Go ahead, Scott.
Great, thanks. Congrats on the awesome quarter. I guess we've got a couple of questions. Just a point of clarification, first of all, on the large Taser sales in the quarter. Was that $20 million order all for Taser 7s, given it's international and their propensity historically to buy something other than that? I just wanted to clarify that.
Yeah, Josh, I wanted to weigh in. That was all Taser 7?
Sure. It was Taser 7 and accessories, you know, associated with it, cartridges, batteries, holsters, and so forth.
Okay. Got it. And then just as a part of that is, were they all purchased on a subscription plan or were they kind of an upfront product purchase? And I saw the mix in the quarter certainly downshifted for the mix of tasers on a subscription.
Yeah, it's a great question, Scott. So for us, in Tier 1 markets as well as in the United States, we do sell taser 7 on subscription plans. But in Tier 2 markets and Tier 3 markets, we actually sell Taser 7 in a similar bundle, but it's available for an upfront purchase. And the reason we do that is twofold. Number one, oftentimes there's distributors in the middle of the deal, and that complicates how the subscription would work. In this case, there was no distributor. But part two is we don't have a very strong, well-documented payment history with some of these first-time buyers for large Taser orders. And thus, you know, to protect the company and shareholders, we do ask to be paid up front so that we're not recognizing revenue ahead of getting paid, more or less.
Awesome. That's great. Then my final question. I don't know if this is for yourself, Josh, or maybe for Rick, is your live stream usage of 7X from April to December, it's a big number. I know it's coming off a small base because you're just starting to get those devices in people's hands at the end of last year. But is that helping the sales cycle yet? Are you seeing the ability to take that evidence or to take those customer experiences and actually parlay that into new customers that are on the fence whether or not to buy the 83X?
Josh, I'll let you take that one.
Yeah, we're really excited about where live streaming is going. Certainly, I think, you know, over this last year, we've seen a ton of very interesting use cases for the product, and we continue to see more and more. This is something that has new body camera customers, you know, that are purchasing AV3. We are seeing a reasonable number of them buy live streaming on day one. And then customers who have been upgraded to AB3 are trying live streaming early and often building it into their budget in the out quarters. And so under both kind of use cases, we are seeing an uptick in live streaming, and we think this is going to be central to the value proposition across all of our products long term. So certainly it's an encouraging sign.
Yeah, I think the one thing to add to that is that, You know, when people buy access to respond for devices, you know, even in addition to or instead of, if they're not ready to use live streaming per se, simply activating, you know, their use of that LTE chip in the camera unlocks a bunch of other scenarios as part of our, you know, software, including simply having, you know, accurate location for 100% of their evidence, which makes it easier to tag and find things later for, like, Brady Law compliance, as well as the transcription scenario I was talking about earlier where they can now, you know, configure so that all of the audio from their video automatically goes up to evidence.com immediately upon finishing the recording so they can move even faster on some of the evidence management pieces. So response for devices, we love the live streaming scenario, but there's so much more that they unlock by buying that add-on.
Great. Congrats, Ian, on the wonderful quarter. Thanks, everyone.
Thanks, Scott. I wanted to build upon Josh's answer on the taser subscription question just real quick. So those Tier 2 markets are the markets that we're a little bit newer to or we don't have always the established payment history that we would have in Tier 1. Tier 1 tends to be, you know, the United States, the UK, Australia, Canada, those English-speaking markets, and Tier 2 are ones where we're new. And so we feel confident that over time we are going to be able to drive taser subscriptions in those markets just like we did in the U.S. and in the U.K., but it's still early. And we also don't have the payment history to extend the credit to do that today. Okay. Are there any other questions? Does anyone want to put their hands up? No. Okay. I think Rick will have you close us out.
Awesome. Thanks, Andrea. And thanks, everybody, for joining us today. Obviously, we're delighted to be able to turn in results like this. And I couldn't be more proud of the team. I was just sitting back noticing, you know, and listening to my team field with questions. It's just been amazing to see us come together, and it's been a challenging environment. But, you know, what a year to have turned in. I couldn't be more proud of everybody who helped make that happen, and any of our employees and team members that are tuned in, listening, thank you for this phenomenal effort in a crazy year. So enough celebration on the great results of 2020. It's time to get to work on 2021. And we look forward to talking to you all on our next quarterly update. Thanks and stay safe.