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spk09: Good morning and welcome to Axon Therapeutics conference call. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mark Jacobson, Chief Operating Officer at Axon Therapeutics. Mark, please go ahead.
spk04: Thank you, operator. Good morning and thank you all for joining us on today's conference call. This morning we issued our earnings press release providing a corporate update and details of the company's financial results for the second quarter of 2022. The release crossed the wire a short time ago and is available on our website at axon.com. During today's call, we will be making certain forward-looking statements. These statements may include statements regarding, among other things, the efficacy, safety, and intended utilization of our investigational agents, our clinical and non-clinical plans, our plans to present or report additional data, the anticipated conduct and the source of future clinical trials, regulatory plans, future research and development plans, commercial plans, and possible intended use of cash and investments. These forward-looking statements are based on current information, assumptions, and expectations that are subject to change and involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the forward-looking statements. These and other risks are described in our periodic filings made with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our quarterly and annual reports. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which are only made as of today's date, and the company disclaims any obligation to update such statements. Joining me on the call today are Dr. Ariel Tabuto, Chief Executive Officer, Nick Peasy, Chief Financial Officer, and Lori Engelbert, Senior Vice President of Commercial and Business Development. Ariel will first provide an overview of the company and then review recent developments and upcoming milestones. Following Ariel, Lori will provide a commercial update and then Nick will review our financial results. We will then open the line for questions. Questions will be taken in the order they are received. And with that, I will turn the call over to Ariel.
spk05: Thank you, Mark. Good morning, everyone, and thank you all for joining Axome Therapeutics second quarter 2022. financial results, and business update conference calls. We are proud to report our first commercial sales following the closing of the Synosi acquisition in the second quarter. This transition to commercial status is a milestone that few developmental stage companies reach, and we are positioned to potentially rapidly grow our commercial portfolio in the near to intermediate terms. This should happen with the two NDA stage product candidates that we have, as well as five additional phase three stage clinical programs. I will provide an update on our commercial and developmental portfolio before turning it to Lori for a commercial update and to Nick for the financial update. Starting with Synosi, we generated U.S. net sales of 8.8 million for the roughly two months from the close of the acquisition on May 9th to the end of the second quarter. We continue to be excited by the growth potential for this product. Moving on to our NDA stage products, AXS05 for MVD and AXS07 for migraine. With regards to our NDA for AXS05 and major depressive disorder, or MVD, we announced that we had entered into labeling discussions with the FDA in late June. We have been pleased with the progress of these discussions. And based on the interactions, we anticipate potential FDA action on the NDA in the third quarter and potentially as early as this month. With regards to XS07, following the complete response letter, we recently submitted for a type A meeting with the FDA to discuss our potential approach, our planned approach to the resubmission of the NDA. And we anticipate that this meeting will occur in the third quarter. The rest of our developmental pipeline continues to progress. With regards to our Alzheimer's disease agitation program, we have amended the relapse criteria for the accord phase three randomized withdrawal study of AXS05 in Alzheimer's disease agitation. The change was informed by results of an analysis requested by the FDA of data from the previously completed positive advance one trial. In order to generate additional data to support the efficacy of XSO5 in this indication, we're also initiating a new randomized placebo-controlled parallel group trial, the ADVANCE-2 trial, this quarter. Concurrent with the initiation of ADVANCE-2, we are concluding the ACCORD randomized withdrawal trial, and we expect top-line results from this study in the fourth quarter of 2022. For AXS12, our product candidate being developed for the treatment of narcolepsy. Enrollment in the Symphony Phase III trial is progressing, and top-line results are anticipated in the first half of 2023. For AXS14, our product candidate for the treatment of fibromyalgia, manufacturing, and other activities related to the planned submission of the NDA are ongoing, and we expect to submit the NDA for this product in 2023. With regards to a new indication for Synose, we recently announced our plans to develop Sorianfetol for the treatment of ADHD. We anticipate initiating a pivotal trial of Sorianfetol in adults with ADHD in the fourth quarter. I will now turn the call over to Lori, who will provide a commercial update.
spk01: Thank you, Ariel, and good morning. The U.S. portion of the Synose acquisition from Jazz Pharmaceuticals was completed on May 9th And as previously reported, the transition was seamless with no disruption to patients. We are extremely proud of the efforts made by the team in such a short amount of time to achieve this significant milestone for Axum. At the time of completing the acquisition, Axum conveyed approximately 75 employees from Jazz, of which the majority were sales reps. Axum's digital-centric commercialization platform plays a significant role in our commercial strategy for Synosi and is already enabling a highly productive sales force. The Sanosi deal was announced on March 28th, and the U.S. portion was completed on May 9th. As such, Q2 had the potential to be a highly disruptive quarter. However, new prescription volume during this period was maintained, and total prescription volume grew 7% quarter over quarter, reflecting effective execution and underlying strength of the Sanosi business. The EU portion of the close is scheduled to occur in the second half of the year. As a reminder, Synose is the first and only FDA-approved dual-acting DNRI to treat excessive daytime sleepiness, or EDS, in adults with narcolepsy, or OSA. We believe that the clinical benefits of Synose provide meaningful differentiation in the marketplace for both OSA and narcolepsy patients who are suffering from EDS. Synosi has a 2% patient share in drug-treated OSA patients, and a 7% patient share in drug-treated narcolepsy patients. The opportunity for growth remains substantial, and I look forward to communicating the results of Axum's first full quarter with Synosi during our Q3 earnings call. Regarding AXS05 launch preparations, the team remains focused in anticipation of a potential launch. We have incorporated learnings from commercializing Synosi including utilizing our DCC platform, and are prepared and ready to commercialize if approved. I will now turn it over to Nick, who will review the financials.
spk02: Thank you, Lori, and good morning, everyone. Today, I will discuss our second quarter results and provide some financial guidance. We ended the quarter with approximately $73.4 million in cash, compared to roughly $86.4 million at the end of the previous quarter. During and subsequent to Q2, we accessed our existing ATM facility, receiving net proceeds of approximately $41.8 million, resulting in a pro forma cash balance of $102 million. Moving to the P&L, Sanosi net sales for the quarter in the United States was $8.8 million. As a reminder, the completion of the acquisition of Sanosi for the U.S. territory was completed on May 9th, and the $8.8 million in net sales relates to the time period of May 9th through June 30th. R&D expenses were $15.8 million for the three months ended June 30th, 2022, and $14.5 million for the comparable period in 2021. The increase was driven by personnel expense and costs associated with ongoing clinical trials. SG&A expenses were $31.2 million for the three months ended June 30, 2022, and $16.3 million for the comparable period in 2021. The increase was primarily related to commercial activities for Sanosi, pre-commercial activities for our late-stage pipeline assets, and personnel expense, along with an increase in non-cash stock compensation expense. Net loss was $41.4 million, or $1.06 per share, for the three months ended June 30, 2022, compared to a net loss of $32.3 million, or $0.86 per share, for the comparable period in 2021. The net loss for the current period included $10.2 million of non-cash stock compensation expense, compared to $5.5 million in the comparable period. Regarding the Stenosia acquisition, The preliminary accounting of the acquisition of Synose is included in our Q2 2022 financial statements. To date, we have performed a preliminary fair value analysis of the business combination. The final determination of these fair values will be completed as soon as possible, but no later than one year from the acquisition date. We believe that our current cash balance, along with the remaining committed capital from the $300 million term loan facility with Hercules Capital, is sufficient to fund anticipated operations into 2024 based on our current operating plan, which includes the commercialization of Synosy and the potential launch of AXS05 in MDD, if approved, along with continued development of our pipeline. That concludes our second quarter 2022 financial review. I will now turn the call back to Mark to lead the Q&A discussion.
spk04: Thank you, Nick. Operator, may we please have our first question?
spk09: Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. As a reminder, you may submit questions via the web by using the Ask a Question feature on the side of your screen. Our first question comes from the line of Charles Duncan with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is now open.
spk08: Good morning, Ariel and team. Yeah, congrats on the progress with CINOSI this quarter, and thanks for taking our questions. Wanted to ask you about CINOSI, but I need to ask you about AXS05 because I'm kind of wondering what's taken so long. But first of all, before I get to that, regarding AXS05, I guess I wonder if there are any terms within the Hercules facility that you can talk about and suggest that that is negotiable should the, you know, call it black swan happen and there's a CRL that is granted or given for XSO5. Can you renegotiate that term loan and therefore access the capital?
spk05: Hey Charles, thanks for the question. With regards to the term loan facility for Hercules, as you know, it's a $300 million facility and what's interesting with the Synosi acquisition is that some of those tranches are actually just sales-based, company sales-based. So we still potentially have access to some of the additional tranches. And in addition, there is a significant proportion of the loan facility, which is at the discretion of Hercules. Now, our financial guidance does incorporate all those scenarios. So I'll turn it to Nick to provide more color, but in the black swan event that you're referring to. And I will say that with regards to that characterization, I think it is accurate. We would be very confident in the package that we put together for XS05 in terms of the efficacy and safety. However, we do plan for all scenarios, and we would be ready for that. But, you know, in the case that that happens, then a lot of the spend, which currently we've modeled for the launch of XSO5, you know, that would naturally go away and therefore reduce our operating cash needs. But I'll turn it over to Nick to comment.
spk02: Yeah, I think, Ariel, you commented on the majority of it. Just to give baseline to everybody, $100 million is available upon launch. Our $100 million is tied to the AXS05 approval. Additionally, there's another tranche, a $50 million tranche, that is tied to the sales-based performance tranche, as Ariel stated, and it's a measure of debt to trailing three months. So that would still be available to us in the Black Swan event that you're referring to, Charles. And just to restate what Ariel mentioned as well, In the event of a CRL, obviously our spend will decrease. As you're aware, there's significant launch spend that would be required for AXS05. That spend would go away, and obviously we would not have access to the $100 million tranche right away. However, we still believe our cash runway would take us into 2024.
spk08: Okay, and I'm generally not a black swan guy, so forgetting about that event, you know, considering the alternative, which is AXS05 is approved here in the near term, would you be able to launch it within a reasonable period of time, let's say by the end of this year or early next year? And then could you give us a sense of how many of the reps that are currently marketing Synosi would be would have overlap and be able to market AXS05 as well.
spk05: Yeah, I think those are questions for Lori.
spk01: Hey, Charles. Thanks for the questions. So we, you know, we will, you know, provide guidance upon, you know, potential approval that will launch within a quarter of approval. And, you know, regarding the reps, so right now we currently have, and are aligned to 75 territories for SNOSI. Those 75 reps are covering about 12,000 HCPs who are high potential prescribers for both OSA and narcolepsy in patients who are suffering with EDS due to those conditions. I am pretty adamant about keeping our Salesforce separate at launch so that AXS05 Salesforce can focus and really drive the adoption of the product at launch, but there is high overlap and a lot of synergy, as we've mentioned before and as you're alluding to. So when the time is right, we will start overlapping, you know, consider overlapping the two sales forces in terms of call points. But I really want to keep everyone focused, really want to turn, you know, continue to drive Sanosi sales up with a focused sales force and the same for AXSR5.
spk08: Last quick question on Alzheimer's agitation regarding potential data yet this year. Can you give us a sense of the number of patients that might be included in that? And will it be a milestone analysis, say, you know, data, a look at data at a certain time point? Or what would really drive that additional data that you could present later on this year? Thanks.
spk05: So with regards to the milestone analysis, remember this is a randomized withdrawal study, so it would not be milestone driven from the perspective of a time point. So we will actually look at the difference in relapse rates or the time to relapse between the two groups, AXS05 and placebo. For the number of patients who will be in that analysis, we will disclose that at the time that we announce the results.
spk08: Thanks for the reminder, Ariel. But can you give us a sense of what percentage of patients you'd like to include in that? I mean, without actual numbers.
spk05: In all the patients. What's your logic? Okay. Okay.
spk08: Thanks for taking the questions. We'll follow up.
spk09: Our next question is from Mark Goodman with SVB Securities. Your line is open.
spk12: Thanks for taking my questions. This is Rudy on the line for Mark. I have a couple questions for X05. So first, I want to ask about the MD in depression. Just wondering how much back and forth has been there being on the proposed label. The labeling and the post-marketing proposal discussions have been ongoing for six weeks and more than three months respectively. I mean, all this typically takes two to four weeks. So specifically, what are the FDA's continued issues and pushback for now with the application and the label?
spk05: So the guideline of four to six weeks that you provided for labeling discussions, I think maybe that's an average. And I know that that's typically what folks state. However, we don't have any control over the FDU's process. The part of it that we can control, which is to make sure that we're responsive and collaborative, that we have done. As I said, we're very pleased with the way that the negotiations have been ongoing, have been going thus far, and we look forward to an FDA action in the near term.
spk04: Can I have one follow-up here? Rudy, you had asked about the postmarking commitments and requirements. And those ongoing for three months, those are not ongoing. We previously mentioned we reached agreement on the PMCs and PMRs with FDA. So just to separate those two, I just wanted to clarify that. And this is Mark, by the way.
spk12: Got it. Thanks for clarifying. And I have a follow-up for Alzheimer's education. It sounds like we're starting another pivotal trial at once, too. Did the FDA ask for that study? Is that trial required for filing? And can you provide more color on the timeline for that trial? Thank you.
spk05: So starting that trial, it reflects our desire to make sure that we have as strong as possible of a data package when we submit the NDA for Alzheimer's disease agitation. As you know, no product has been approved yet for this indication. So what we can do is make sure that we incorporate learnings where we can get them. As you know, there's been recent FDA action on a competitor product in another neurobehavioral symptom, Alzheimer's disease. This is psychosis. So we watch that very carefully and try to incorporate any learnings there into our clinical program. So, you know, we want to make sure that while this new study technically would not be required for an NBD filing in Alzheimer's disease agitation, assuming that the randomized referral study, let's say, is positive, we think that it's prudent to, you know, have more than one shot on goal and to have two studies, both of which are parallel group, that would replicate each other.
spk12: So let's say if the course that is positive, then we're going to file. We won't wait for advance two, right?
spk05: So assuming that we have a data package that we think is adequate, what we would then do is have a pre-NDA meeting with the FDA, and after that meeting we would be able to tell you whether or not the FDA believes that we should go ahead and file. Got it. That's very helpful.
spk12: Thank you.
spk09: Our next question is from June Lee with Truist Securities. Your line is now open.
spk07: Good morning. This is Awesome on for June. Thanks for taking the questions. Our first question is, given known drug-drug interaction with bupropion, do you think patients currently on antidepressants will need to be washed out of existing drugs before they can be on AXS-05s? And how do you envision patients on standard antidepressants could be transitioned to AXS05s and have a follow-up?
spk05: Thank you for the question. Drug-drug interactions are not unique to AXS05s. It's just that we are leveraging particular drug-drug interaction to improve the pharmacokinetics of the NMDA receptor antagonism of AXS05s. However, a lot of drugs do have drug-drug interactions, and they are sections in every package insert with regards to those drug-drug interactions, advising clinicians how to navigate that. And it's something that clinicians are able to do. Other antidepressants also have drug-drug interactions, and it is typical to... make sure that the patients are washed out of one treatment before putting them on another treatment. This is something that clinicians, psychiatrists in particular, are very familiar with.
spk07: Okay, thank you for that. And then just on the labeling discussions for O5, have you had any more interaction with the FDA since you first disclosed labeling discussions? And if so, were items such as REMS part of that discussion?
spk05: We have had additional interactions. As we mentioned, we've been in labeling discussions with the FDA. And with regards to other aspects of what has been discussed as part of those negotiations, we will not comment on that. As you can imagine, it would be inappropriate at this stage.
spk07: Okay, thank you.
spk09: Our next question comes from Yati in Sunasia with Guggenheim Partners. Your line is now open.
spk16: Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my question. Two for me. Could you give a little bit more color on Sunosi launch in terms of, you know, how should we think about the performance in Q3? Are you in a position to provide some sort of a guidance going forward and at what point you might be able to provide that? So that's one. And then the other question I have is on the abuse liability for O5. Could you just talk about the, is FDA comfortable with your, with the lack of abuse liability data? Because if you read the guidance for CNS drug, they definitely require some sort of an abuse liability work. So just trying to get some sense there, thanks.
spk05: Yeah, so I'll answer the abuse liability question. you are correct that all CNS active drugs are required to assess the potential of those drugs for abuse and liability. However, how that's done really depends on the compound and if any signals have been seen in clinical trials. So as part of our NDA, we did have to do that assessment, and as we've said in the past, that has been done. And I'll turn it over to Nick and Laurie to answer your questions regarding Sanosi.
spk01: Hang on. So I'll quickly just kind of give you some data points that help give some color around performance so far from the Sanosi acquisition. And then I'll toss it over to Nick in terms of guidance. So we're still very much learning and assessing the market post the transition phase. And as I mentioned earlier, we've aligned to 75 territories. You know, the reps that are currently out promoting now are really incredibly high-caliber Salesforce, and they are generating productivity levels of Salesforce's, you know, one and a half to two times the size that they are right now. We believe that a lot of that has to do with, you know, the underlying momentum from Sunosi, as well as being able to effectively execute through DCC. So really proud of what the team was able to do in terms of potentially facing a very disruptive quarter. And as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, quarter over quarter growth was 7%, which really is impressive given what could have happened during a highly disruptive quarter. I'll pass it over to Nick for guidance.
spk02: Yeah, thanks, Lori. The quarter, as Lori mentioned earlier, could have been extremely disruptive. As I stated in the opening remarks, we had $8.8 million in net sales. That was actually 22% year-over-year growth in Scripps. So I'm highly satisfied with how the transition has taken place so far. As a reminder, on our Sanosi webcast that we had, Just a couple months ago, we believe the EDS market in OSA and narcolepsy has the potential to have peak sales in the $300 million to $500 million range. At this point, we won't be able to give guidance for the rest of the year as we're still learning, but obviously very positive transitions thus far.
spk09: Thank you. Our next question comes from Jason Gerberry with Bank of America. Your line is now open.
spk06: Oh, hey guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I just wanted to come back to the cash question. I'm a little confused. So it seems like you're unlikely at a point where some sort of Sanosi sales threshold maybe triggered more access to the Hercules facility. So just trying to understand, I think you You know, you're burning like $40 million a quarter with the Sanosi fully kind of in the numbers going forward. That would seem like that's going up. So can you just, you know, absent the AXS05 approval, just trying to understand how you kind of work through the end of the year on the existing cash dynamics. And then on the AD agitation update, I'm just curious, why not start the new trial with sometime in the fourth quarter after the randomized withdrawal update, presuming if that randomized withdrawal study update could facilitate approval and the cash is dire, you know, or dear for you guys, why not wait to see if that could facilitate approval before starting another study? Thanks.
spk02: Yeah, so related to... Related to the Sanosi comment, so I guess maybe a little bit of background on Sanosi. The guidance that we previously stated and, you know, feel comfortable to state is that we do expect a small loss in the stub period this year, Jason. And then for Sanosi to actually be accretive next year, you know, and based on the stub performance for Q2, we're pretty excited about that. Additionally, as it relates to Hercules and the tranche, with the debt that we've taken down and our trailing three-month sales, or anticipated trailing three-month sales, we're actually approaching where we would be able to utilize the tranche for a $50 million. So access to the Hercules facility would be available potentially next year. I'll turn it over to Ariel to answer the other questions. And actually, yeah, one last question. One other comment that you made related to burn. Burn, I think you had mentioned somewhere around $40 million. Our average four-month cash burn has actually been closer to $30 million. So I just wanted to clarify that.
spk05: And then... With regards to the question around the start of the Alzheimer's disease agitation trial, what we want to make sure that we do is continue our history, the way that we do things, of rapidly developing our product candidates. And so it makes sense for us to start that study sooner rather than later. So we made the determination, and guess what? And we're on track to start that study actually this quarter. So we're very proud of that. And in terms of waiting until the fourth quarter, remember the study that we are launching, which is a parallel group trial, we have a lot of information to guide us to the design of that study. And this will be essentially a repeat of our positive advance one trial So we'll take the learnings from that, and that will allow us to make sure that we tweet where needed the design of the current study, of the new study.
spk06: Got it. Okay. Thanks, guys.
spk09: Our next question comes from Ram Selvarju with HC Wainwright. Your line is now open.
spk11: Hi. This is Bubalan dialing in for Ram Selvarju. And thanks for taking my question. So we have a couple of questions. So firstly, is there anything that you could provide with respect to AXS5 with a sustainable competitive advantage versus other antidepressants in the later clinical stages of development?
spk05: Well, I think, first of all, it's important to compare AXS05, our data in AXS05, to the It's important to compare that to actual Phase III data with other product candidates. To the extent that other product candidates have not generated that data, it's hard for us to comment. What we can speak about is the clinical profile of AXS05 that we've demonstrated now in four different clinical trials at least. and also with long-term data that goes out to one year. What have we seen? What we've seen is that there was a rapid antidepressant effect, which, remember, was highly statistically significant in week one with the Gemini trial. That was accompanied not just by symptom improvement, but also by an improvement in quality of life, which was statistically significant at week one. So the drug is making patients feel better, but it's also helping them to function better very rapidly. And that's not been seen before with an oral antidepressant. Secondly, the magnitude of effect is very large with AXS05. And so the treatment difference increases over time. with XSO5. It's also important to look at our remission data where there was more than a two-fold increase in remission at week six as compared to placebo in that study. So you have a drug that works incredibly well objectively with regards to magnitude of effect that has a rapid onset. and also which is durable. And then lastly, the drug was incredibly well tolerated from our perspective. Remember, this is a novel mechanism of action, so it's nice to have a novel mechanism of action, but when that new mechanism of action actually translates to clinical benefit, then it really tells clinicians, hey, there's something new that should be considered in trying to treat patients who are not responding to current treatments. And as a reminder, the percentage of patients who don't respond well to current treatments is nearly 70%.
spk11: Thanks for the detailed color. So with respect to X years commercialization activities, What are your updated thoughts on this and how do you plan to optimize the value of your assets?
spk05: So it's always been our stated corporate objective to out-license our product candidates for ex-U.S. markets while we focus on the U.S. With this nosy acquisition, though, we have now become a global biopharmaceutical company. There are sales of Synosi XUS, which are growing. We did not comment on that portion of the business this quarter because we have not yet closed on the XUS portion of the acquisition. That may inform our strategy going forward, whether that means more robust business development XUS or another TAC now that we actually do have some infrastructure XUS.
spk11: Great, one final question from me. So you're stepping into ADHD. As you may know, this is a decently crowded indication. So just would like to hear your thoughts. What's your value proposition here? And what are some of the unmet needs that you're planning to address with Synose?
spk05: We're very excited by the clinical profile of Synose. as it relates to a potential effect in ADHD. However, we want to make sure that we don't jump the gun here. We want to run the clinical trial and to see what the results are. In terms of what the value proposition is, there is a lot of unmet need in ADHD. As you know, most of the drugs that are currently available are highly scheduled drugs. And the ones that are not highly scheduled do not have a large treatment effect. So I think there is value here potentially with Synose should the results in ADHD match the results in EDS. And what I mean by that is if you look at the results for Synose in EDS, the treatment effect is very large. In fact, it's larger than other weight-promoting agents. And so you have this large effect size. You know, hoping that we might see that in the ADHD trial. And we're looking forward to initiating that study in the fourth quarter.
spk11: Thanks. Thanks for taking our questions.
spk09: Our next question is from Joseph Thome with Cowan. Your line is now open.
spk03: Hi there. Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. First one on the depression review, and then I'll have a follow-up on Alzheimer's agitation. But on the current review, I know you mentioned that you're encouraged with the progress of the labeling discussions. Maybe can you provide us a little bit of context on kind of what's inspiring that encouragement? Are you currently waiting for the FDA, or are they waiting for analysis or any data from you? And the last part on this, what would constitute sort of a disclosable release to investors from the review? Is the next thing we're going to hear a decision, or is there any potential kind of intermediate steps before that point?
spk05: Well, we said that we've been pleased with the progress of those negotiations, and I think, one, we're pleased that we did enter into labor negotiations, and we're pleased because there has been interactions with the FDA with regards to the label, and that is progressing. So the next disclosable of that that we anticipate would be an FDA action.
spk03: Okay, perfect. And then on the Alzheimer's disease agitation in the PR, it does mention that you amended the relapse criteria for the ACCORD study. Are you able to give a little bit of context as to how that changed? And then with the parallel control group trial, was this something that the FDA suggested or something that you and the team thought would be helpful to wrap up the profile? Thank you.
spk05: Yeah, it's something that we thought would be helpful in the context of looking at the experience with the development of drugs in in neighboring indications in Alzheimer's disease. And with regards to the relapse criteria question, what we were able to do at the suggestion of the FDA was to look at the results from the advanced trial, which were positive, and there was a lot of data to be mined there, and particularly looking at the how one would look at clinical meaningfulness with the various scales. And so, you know, that informed the change in the relapse criteria so that they're consistent with the results of the ADVANCE-1 trial.
spk03: Okay. Thank you very much.
spk09: Our next question is from Craig Suvanavish with Mizuho Securities. Please proceed with your question.
spk15: Thank you very much, and good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. As I'm relatively new to the name, just on AXS12 for narcolepsy, could you just remind me what the TPP is and how you expect to position that relative to synosy? And then separate on synosy and ADHD, could you just remind me what the dosing is, especially relative to that in EDSS and OSA and narcolepsy, and is If it's different, is there a potential for an alternative prescription branding strategy? Thanks.
spk05: Thanks for those questions. With regards to AXS-12, in our CONSERV trial, we demonstrated that AXS-12 had a profound effect on cataplexy, but not just that, but also excessive daytime sleepiness. And the other measure that was interesting in that study was cognition. We showed that there was a rapid improvement in cognition So for those reasons, AXS-12 has a very interesting TTP. With regards to comparing it to Synose, as a reminder, Synose, while Synose is approved to treat patients who have narcolepsy, it's approved for the treatment of EDS in patients with narcolepsy. So there is no it does not have an effect on cataplexy. So that's the difference between the two. And with regards to the dosing of a synosy in ADHD, we have not disclosed the dose that we are going to be studying in the phase three trial, but we look forward to disclosing that once we announce the initiation of that study.
spk15: Thank you.
spk09: Our next question is from Chris Howerton with Jefferies. Your line is now open.
spk14: Great. Lots of great questions so far. Thanks so much for taking some from me. Two for me. First on the 05, with respect to the potential label and approval, you know, what are the company's thoughts around the likelihood of a REMS? And, you know, if you think about the potential label drug-drug interactions that were already mentioned previously, would there be an anticipation of any sort of warning label or restriction or contraindication of those medications, like beta blockers or antihypertensive, for example? The second question I have is, again, related to the Alzheimer's disease relapse. One of the concerns that was brought up in the neighboring indication was the autocorrelation with respect to within-subjects designs. So curious if you could comment around the clinical meaningfulness of the view of the FDA from your perspective of the randomized withdrawal data as opposed to the parallel design that you just announced. Thank you.
spk05: Thank you for the questions. I think all those questions around the legal are reasonable questions to ask, and we'll refrain from answering those questions given where we are in the stages, given where we are in the labeling discussions with the FDA. And with regards to, could you repeat the question as it relates to the neighboring indication?
spk14: Absolutely. Yeah, thank you. So one of the concerns was the interpretation of the clinical meaningfulness of the within subjects design for the randomized withdrawal. And so I'm curious if that was a driver of the clinical meaningful discussion and if you could comment on the robustness of that type of design relative to the parallel design. Thank you.
spk05: Yeah, that's a really good question. And, you know, that is one of the limitations of a randomized withdrawal design. So the randomized withdrawal design does a very good job of demonstrating that the drug works, and so it is a control design. But with regard to answering that particular question, that particular question is best answered with a parallel group design. Now we demonstrate that we have parallel group data with the ADVANCE-1 trial. The FDA does typically like to see two studies. Again, we're not initiating this new trial because we think that it is absolutely needed, but we want to make sure that we approach the MD filing in a position of strength, especially given that this is an indication for which no product has been approved.
spk07: Okay, thanks so much for taking the questions.
spk09: Our next question comes from Matt Kaplan with Ladenburg-Salmon. Your line is now open.
spk17: Hi, good morning, and thanks for taking the questions. I just wanted to dig into AXS07 a little bit. Where are you with respect to addressing the CMC questions, details in the CRL, and when do you think you could resubmit the NDA?
spk04: Hey, Matt. It's Mark. So, as you can imagine, the team is doing its work in the background. The CMC team is doing its work. the CRL and this morning we did announce that we've requested and submitted a request for a type A meeting with FDA and what we plan to do is once that meeting is held, which we would expect this quarter, we'd expect it to be held this quarter, once it's held then we'll be able to, we'll be in a position to provide a clear update for our expectations around timing of the resubmission and if there are any any nuances about the package or anything like that. But right now it's status quo in terms of the last update where we think everything is addressable and that we either have the information on hand or are able to, in a position to provide it prior to our, or in connection with our resubmission. So we'll hopefully have more for you in the not too distant future. Okay, great. That's very helpful.
spk17: And then just a quick follow-up on your plans in ADHD for synopsis. Is it your expectation that a single phase three pivotal study in that indication could suffice for filing a supplemental NDA?
spk05: We anticipate that two studies will be needed. So the first study is in adults, and assuming that that study is positive, we will then conduct a pediatric study.
spk17: Okay, great. Well, congrats on the progress, John Porter. Thanks.
spk09: Our next question comes from Vikram Parohat with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open. Vikram, you may proceed with your question. At this time, there is no response. We will move on to the next question. Our next question comes from the line of Miles Mentor with William Blair. Your line is now open.
spk10: Hey, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. This is the first one on 05. I know when you announced agreement to the post-marketing commitments you got, you'd expect a decision in the second quarter on their filing. you then announced you received a proposed label and didn't state anything about that timing guidance and now you're coming on the call saying that it could be this month. So my question is what or was there an aha moment or something that gets you back on a regulatory timeline that's happened in between your first initial disclosure that you'd received a proposed labeling and the discussions that you've had since then? Or is it more just you're pleased and therefore you think it's coming maybe this month? Thank you.
spk04: Hey, Miles. It's Mark. So, yeah, we did comment we're pleased on their overall status. And related to that, providing the guidance here or estimate of potential action, is our sense of the current status of the process and where we think we are. Just to be clear, though, FDA has not told us they plan to take action on a certain date. So we don't have that. It's based on our read of the information that's available to us in totality, and that's what we're providing to you.
spk10: Okay. So just to clarify, it sounds like it wasn't like a specific event in your back and forth discussions. It's more the totality of how those discussions are going that kind of give you the confidence to give this diamond guidance.
spk04: Yeah, so there is, of course, a choreography, right, where there's back and forth and things like that. And it's our read of, you know, it's our holistic read of where we are.
spk10: Okay, that's helpful. And then just on the advanced one additional analysis that was requested by the FDA, I mean, they gave you breakthrough therapy designation for that product in the indication way back in 2020. And that was after they'd reviewed the Advance One trial. And I think in your words, you'd be able to use that as a pivotal study. So what additional information did they request from that trial after they'd given you all these designations and looked at the trial initially? Thanks. Thanks.
spk05: Yeah, because there is no product that's been approved to treat Alzheimer's disease agitation, there isn't also a ton of data on a lot of the scales that are being used in the assessment of the disease. So from that perspective, the data from the Advance One trial are pretty special and there's a lot of information that can be mined from those data. I think that's the source of the suggested analyses. We found those useful, and you're right. The ADVANCE-1 trial was the basis for the breakthrough therapy designation, and it's been great because with the breakthrough therapy designation, that does allow us to have a lot of contact with the FDA and get their thoughts, which is especially valuable in a situation where we are doing pioneering work, and so guidance from them is welcome.
spk10: Okay, final one from me is just, I guess, we're having this clinically meaningful discussion about endpoints here. Is Advanced 2 going to have the CMAI as the endpoint, the Cohen-Mansfield?
spk05: Yes, it will.
spk10: Cool. Okay, thanks for the questions.
spk09: Thank you. We'll take our final question from David Hoang with SMBC. Your line is now open.
spk13: Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for fitting me in and taking some questions. So I just had a couple. I think first one for me on 05, this may have been a while ago, but, you know, based on the study populations enrolled in the 05, you know, trials, I think there was your thinking was that the base case for a label would be major depressive disorder, MDD, pretty broadly. Any reason to think differently now? Would there be any thought that the population could be narrower or any qualifiers or such specified in the label?
spk05: Yeah, thanks for the question. What we've disclosed is that the MDA that we filed was for major depression disorder. And with regards to what will be in the label, as we stated before, it would be appropriate for us to discuss anything about the label at this stage.
spk13: Okay, understood that. And then I had one just around the different tranches from your term loan. If I heard correctly, one is obviously based on O5 approval, There's another based on some sales milestones. And then I think there's one more that is sort of at the lender's discretion. Can you comment as just to that last tranche, if I have it correctly, what stipulations or covenants are attached to that, anything you can share, and what is the amount there?
spk02: Yeah, that's just actually a general tranche that – I'm sorry, this is Nick speaking – It's a general tranche that is at the lender's option that we would have the ability to request, you know, based on business needs.
spk13: Okay, great. Well, thanks for taking the question.
spk09: Thank you. That ends our question and answer session. I would now like to pass the conference back to management for closing remarks.
spk05: Well, thank you again for joining us on the call today. This is an exciting time for Axon as we transition to commercial stage and are looking forward to continuing this momentum with our two in-the-stage product candidates and five phase three stage clinical programs. We are committed to bringing potentially life-changing medicines to people living with serious CNS conditions. We look forward to updating you over the coming months on our continued pipeline and commercial progress. Have a great day.
spk09: This concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation and have a wonderful day.
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