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Operator

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for participating in today's conference call to discuss BBSI's financial results for the third quarter ended September 30th, 2023. Joining us today are BBSI's president and CEO, Mr. Gary Kramer, and the company's CFO, Mr. Anthony Harris. Following their remarks, we will open the call for your questions. Before we go further, please take note of the company's safe harbor statement within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The statement provides important questions regarding forward-looking statements. The company's remarks during today's conference call will include forward-looking statements. These statements, along with other information presented that does not reflect historical fact, are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from those implied by these forward-looking statements. Please refer to the company's recent earnings release and to the company's quarterly and annual reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission for more information about the risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. I would like to remind everyone that this call will be available for replay through December 1st, 2023 starting at 8 p.m. Eastern tonight. A webcast replay will also be available via the link provided in today's press release, as well as available on the company's website at www.bbsi.com. Now I'd like to turn the call over to the President and Chief Executive Officer of BBSI, Mr. Gary Kramer. Sir, please go ahead.

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Gary Kramer

Thank you. Good afternoon everyone and thank you for joining the call. We had another strong quarter and I am pleased with our results. We continue to execute on our short-term and long-term objectives and we surpassed all of our internal controllable key performance indicators. Regarding our client and WSC stack, our controllable growth exceeded our expectations in the quarter as we continued to execute on our various strategies to increase the top of the sales funnel. and I am pleased to say that we once again exceeded our expectations in new clients and in new worksite employees. As discussed previously, we have been able to sell and support larger clients with our upgraded technology stack, national PEO licenses, along with BBSI benefits. This continues to progress favorably, and the average size of the clients that we are adding are larger than the average size of the clients that are running off. Regarding client runoff, our retention in the quarter was better than the prior year quarter and continues to remain stronger than pre-pandemic levels. I like to attribute that to the work we do with our clients and the value our teams provide. The result of all these efforts, or what I refer to as our controllable growth, is that we added approximately 4,300 worksite employees year over year from net new clients. This was partially offset by slower client hiring in the quarter. Our clients increased their workforce sequentially over the second quarter, but by less than we were forecasting. Anthony will provide more color for the portfolio by geography and industry. To summarize, we grew our worksite employees by 1%, which was slightly lower than forecast for the quarter, as we sold and retained more business, but this was partially offset by slower than anticipated client hiring. Moving to our staffing operations, Our staffing business declined by 25% over the prior year quarter and was slightly better than we anticipated. We mentioned previously that we repriced the portfolio and jettisoned clients where we were not achieving an adequate return. We also shifted our strategy to recruit for our PEO clients and placed 83 applicants in the quarter, which generated equal margin to our traditional staffing model, but resulted in less top-line revenue. We also experienced microeconomic factors, including supply and demand imbalances, which varied by geography. Moving to the field operational updates, we are very pleased with our entrance into new markets with our asset light model. We have 14 total new market development managers that are in various stages of their development. They are doing well and largely achieving their goals of adding and servicing new clients and new referral partners and have a robust pipeline. Our results thus far are better than we expected and are exceeding our internal return hurdle rate, and we are actively recruiting for the next class. Regarding our product updates, we continue to execute on the sales and service of BBSI benefits, our new health insurance offering. As a refresher, we rolled out our benefits offering in California in the second quarter and are now selling and servicing BVSI benefits in every market where we operate. I am pleased to report that through October, we have 160 clients on our various plans with more than 3,500 total participants. Our value proposition is resonating well and we are having success with small and large clients in white and blue collar industries in every state we operate and with a diverse distribution channel. We are in the thick of the 1-1 selling season, and our business teams are offering BBSI benefits to our existing clients as well as potential new clients. It is still too early to provide any definitive guidance, but we are pleased with our current pipeline. If we close the current opportunities that are in our pipeline at our historical benefits closing rate, then we are confident that this product will be accretive to earnings in 2024. Next, I'd like to shift to our view of the remainder of the year and the 2024. Our various sales strategies continue to increase the top of the sales funnel. Our controllable growth exceeded our expectations every quarter this year, and that trend continued into October. Our qualified prospects at the end of the quarter were approximately 75% greater than the prior year quarter. If we close this business near our historical close rate, plus closed on our benefits opportunities, then we are setting ourselves up for a strong start to 2024. If there's no dislocation in the economy and we close out the year in the manner I just described, then we expect to see improved gross billings growth in 2024 over 2023. Now I'm going to turn the call over to Anthony for his prepared remarks.

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Anthony

Thanks, Gary, and hello, everyone. I'm pleased to report we finished Q3 with strong results. as we continue to exceed our expectations for profitability and work set employees added in the quarter from net new clients. Our overall gross billings increased 3% in Q3 23 to 1.96 billion versus 1.91 billion in Q3 22. We achieved diluted earnings per share of $2.68 compared to $2.45 in the prior year quarter. PEO gross billings increased 3.3% over the prior year quarter to 1.94 billion, while staffing revenues decreased 25% over the prior year to 22 million. Our worksite employees grew by 1.1% in the quarter, which was the result of adding more WSEs than expected from net new PEO clients, offset in part by slower hiring within our existing customer base. Looking at client hiring more closely, we have seen overall hiring trends stabilize in the quarter and increase modestly on a sequential basis. but the pace of hiring remains slower than historical trends and slower than expected. We continue to see this slowness primarily in the construction sector and most concentrated in our Northern California region. Average hours worked and overtime hours per employee have continued to stabilize in the quarter as well. Average billing per WSE increased 3.5 percent in the quarter, driven by higher average client wage rates which remain resilient and which will continue to be a source of billings growth going forward. Looking at overall PEO gross billings growth by region versus the prior year third quarter, East Coast grew 12%, Mountain States grew 8%, Southern California grew 5%, the Pacific Northwest decreased by 3%, and Northern California decreased by 3%. As Gary discussed, staffing revenues are down year over year, driven by strategic shifts in our model and the current economic environment. That said, our staffing revenues increased sequentially, and we expect this stability to continue through year end. Our workers' compensation program continues to perform well and benefit from favorable claim frequency trends and favorable claim development. This strong performance has once again resulted in favorable adjustments for prior year claims. In Q3-23, we recognized favorable prior year liability and premium adjustments of $2.2 million. This compares to favorable prior year liability and premium adjustments of $1.4 million in the third quarter of 2022. As a reminder, our client workers' compensation exposure is now primarily covered by our fully insured program with no retained liability by BBSI. Our gross margin rate improved in the quarter due to the cost savings from lower workers' compensation expense and our ongoing focus on pricing discipline. In addition, our profitability continues to benefit from cost management efforts that have largely offset the impact of our ongoing investments in the launch of BBSI benefits, and our expanding team of market development managers. As a result, SG&A for the year continues to grow slower than prior year and slower than our billing's growth rate. Moving to investment income, our investment portfolios earned $2.3 million in the third quarter, up $700,000 from the prior year, due to higher yields and more favorable cash flow timing associated with our current fully insured program. Our investment portfolio continues to be managed conservatively with an average duration of 3.5 years and average quality of investment at AA. Our balance sheet remains strong with $129 million of unrestricted cash investments at September 30 and no debt. Continuing under the board's July 2023 repurchase program announced last quarter, BBSI repurchased $11 million of shares in the third quarter the $64 million remaining available under the program. The company also paid $2 million in dividends in the quarter and reaffirmed its dividend for the following quarter. Turning to our outlook for the year, we are updating our outlook to reflect our year-to-date results, and we now expect gross billings to increase between 4% and 5%, a slight decrease from the 4% to 6% in our prior outlook. And we expect average WSEs to increase between 2 and 3 percent for the year, a slight decrease from the 2 to 4 percent in our prior outlook. We continue to expect gross margin as a percentage of gross billings to be between 3.1 and 3.15 percent, and we continue to expect our effective annual tax rate to remain between 27 percent and 28 percent. I will now turn the call back to the operator for questions.

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Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, you may press star 1 on your telephone keypad. The confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. Our first question comes from the line of Jeff Martin with Roth Capital Partners. Please proceed with your question.

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Jeff Martin

Thanks. Good afternoon, Gary and Anthony. I hope you're doing well. I wanted to dive into a little bit more on the sales funnel. What are some of the things you're doing differently this year versus years past maybe that's leading you to hit your internal controllable targets?

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Gary Kramer

Yeah. Hey, Jeff. I would say that we've had laser focus on the top of the funnel. We've tried and refined over the past couple of years to make sure that we're getting as many looks as we can, you know, targeting clients directly, targeting referral partners, targeting benefits brokers. So it's really not just one easy button. It's a lot of different strategies that we have been executing on over the past, I'll say, two plus years. And then we're really just seeing good results from that now. I said in my prepared remarks that our prospects, right? So these are qualified prospects that we're in the process with. We're about 75% higher at the end of September than we were, again, September of 22. So we've got that many more possible potential clients that can join into Q4, into Q1. So we're just – we've got a lot of energy going there, and hopefully we're going to see the reward of it going into Q4 and into Q1. Great.

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Jeff Martin

And then remind us on the BBSI benefits side, what's the investment this year and next year that you've got to essentially cover to become – you know, earnings accretive there. And then second part to that question is, you know, can you give us an update on some of the new referral partners that you've brought on board, you know, some specifically for, you know, VBSI benefits would be helpful. Thanks.

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Anthony

Sure. This is Anthony. Hey, Jeff. I'll take the investment question and then Gary can speak to the referral partners. But we sent about $3 million of total expense investment to operate this program. So, that's essentially the run rate we're at right now. Obviously, as it scales over time, that could change a little bit, but that's where we're at.

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Gary Kramer

And then on the referral partner side, I have the stat. I just don't have it with me for how many new referral partners we brought in in the quarter, but we have a constant discipline to attract new referral partners. We've got a you know, an army of folks in the field that that's what they, that's what they do on a day-to-day basis. And they're doing it very well as far as making, we call it making new friends. But we're, you know, part of that strategy was as we talk about our total addressable market is we're now able to go to, you know, employee benefits brokers where, you know, before we, they could refer to us, but we didn't really have a product that they, that they could sell into their clients because it wasn't, didn't have the health insurance. But now that we have the health insurance, we're able to, tap into almost twice as many employee brokerages out there.

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Jeff Martin

Great. And then last one for me. In terms of growth drivers for next year, obviously a rebound in hiring from clients would be a big one. But is potential for workers' compensation rates in California in particular, are you viewing that as a potential growth driver next year?

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Gary Kramer

We're not seeing any, you know, I think I said in the prior calls that we're seeing some carriers be less aggressive than they were. There's still competition in the marketplace, but they're less aggressive than they were. We are not seeing anything that is driving accounts to market as far as rate increases on the workers' comp side. We're seeing some of that on the health insurance side. We're seeing clients go to market because, you know, in some markets they're getting 20-plus percent rate increases on their medicals, so that's driving some accounts to market. But on the workers' comp, you know, it's still trading in that, you know, plus or minus 2 percent, plus or minus 5 percent. It's not really a pain point that's driving business to market yet, and we're not forecasting that.

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spk07

Great. Thanks for taking my time.

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Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Chris Moore with CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

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Chris Moore

Hey, good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking a couple questions. Maybe just a quick follow-up. The $3 million incremental expense on health care, some of that is in 23 and some in 24, or where does that get placed?

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Anthony

Annual expense was in 2023, and we ramped a little bit, but we were mostly fully staffed for the year, so that's the approximate run rate for 24 as well.

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Chris Moore

Got it. And maybe just one more on the healthcare side. So do you expect, you know, the ultimate penetration here to match the penetration of existing business? You know, for example, 75% of the healthcare to be in California. Is there a geography bias? Is there some other bias, you know, by type of employment? Just trying to kind of get your thoughts there.

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Gary Kramer

You know, as we are mastering our craft for benefits, We've had better success selling it into our installed base. So, you know, I think we said 160 clients that have enrolled through October of those 160. You know, 20% of those are new business, so that's new to BVSI. We wouldn't have brought those clients on, so call that 30. We would not have brought those clients on if we didn't have benefits. So that's allowing us to pick up additional business that we wouldn't have received. But as we're learning our craft, it's it's a little bit easier to sell it to your friends right in our clients They know as well. They know the product we deliver they trust us It's a little bit of an easier sell to sell it into your install base than to sell it to a new But what we want to get to in the future is a you know after we sell through the our install base You know continue to sell into two new clients, but you can kind of see how this how this will work you know, this will ramp over time, right? We doubled the book on 7-1. We'll probably double it again on 1-1 as far as our portfolio clients that buy the benefits, and then we'll see where it goes from there.

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Chris Moore

Got it. Helpful. And just, you know, kind of big picture, just trying to get a sense as to how much visibility you have in fiscal 24 as of, you know, November 1st. Do you know much today that you didn't know three to four months ago? you know, trying to get a better sense as to how you're seeing early, early 24.

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Gary Kramer

Yeah, we, you know, we feel, you know, looking at our pipeline that we have, we've got two pipelines, if you think of it. We've got a pipeline of benefits opportunities, and we feel good with that one if we close that at our historical benefits closing rate, that we're going to have a creative year for benefits in 24. So it's going to be, you know, we're going to make more than the $3 million we're going to spend, right? We're not going to give a number until we get into 24, but we're going to make more than the $3 million we're going to spend on it. And then if you look at the pipeline for our traditional non-benefits prospects, that's the largest pipeline we've ever had at the end of a Q3. So, you know, if we do what we do, and we're good at doing that, right, over the last, two years we've we've really been executing on our controllable right of adding clients and adding wses uh if we keep doing what we're doing with the pipeline we have we feel very optimistic about 24. so if you say all right we've got all these good things going on the controllable side and then even if you know say you know our client hiring is flat um it's going to be easy for us to have a better gross billings year in 24 over 23.

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spk07

Got it, that's helpful. I will leave it there. Thanks, guys. Our next question comes from the line of Vincent Colicchio with Barrington Research.

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Operator

Please proceed with your question.

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Gary

Yeah, Gary, you cited construction as a weak sector. If I remember correctly, that's been weak for some time. I'm curious, are you seeing that deteriorate?

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Gary Kramer

No, we're actually, I mean, We actually saw it come back some in Q3. So sequentially, our clients hired in Q3 over Q2. Now, you know, it was a slight positive. It wasn't a big positive, but it was still positive. And I'll take a positive over a negative any time. But if you think of when we started to see the slowdown in our clients, it was November, December of 22, and then we saw it come back into Q1 of 23, Q2 of 23, and we've seen it slowly come back, you know, reverse out in Q3. So, you know, it's still early, but, you know, we're thinking, especially in the Bay Area where we're seeing it come back, we're hoping that that trend is reversed.

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Gary

And one clarification, did you say the profits gained from staffing clients within PEO offset losses from clients that you shed in the staffing line?

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Gary Kramer

So this is a challenging one to try to explain. We do recruiting for our clients now, and when we – When we book the recruiting fee, say it's $10,000, we recruit for our clients and they hire somebody and we get paid a $10,000 recruiting fee. So that recruiting fee is profit for us. The sale we recognize on that is $10,000. The profit we recognize, keep it simple, is $10,000. Now where that's different is if that was traditional staffing business and say that person was making $75,000 in wages, we would book the wages plus taxes plus other things into the revenue line. So that revenue would have been, you know, call it $100,000, but we would have made our $10,000 in profits. So it's a little bit of a shift in the accounting for recruiting for staffing. And all we're trying to say is we're making adequate margins on staffing. We're just not realizing, we're making an adequate profit on staffing, we're just not realizing as much revenue as we used to, nor are we realizing the cost of it.

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Gary

Okay, and then you mentioned staffing. I believe you mentioned should grow sequentially. What's driving that in particular?

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Anthony

Yeah, we had sequential growth in this quarter, and we're projecting modest sequential growth next quarter. Again, we're talking small positives here, not large percentage sequential increases. But the key takeaway is the large declines really we think are behind us. And so, for example, the 25% decrease in revenue now is really representing just that year-over-year compare, where if you look at the trend line now, it's flat to positive. We're really holding that. We've seen, as Gary said, the activity in staffing that we're excited about. It's not necessarily leading to large increases in revenue, but it's still showing up as some revenue and certainly margin.

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Gary

As you go after bigger clients and the competitive, I think the competition is a little different. Are you seeing competitive pressures increase in the current environment?

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Gary Kramer

No more than normal. I mean, there's competition everywhere, but with our product and our people in the field, it's really our differentiator. We can talk about all these different tools that we have as far as workers' comp or health insurance and yada, yada, yada, but the people in the field doing the work, being there with the business owner, that is the core product, and that's what's That's what we're able to sell in the market. That's what keeps the business on the books. That's the one that the clients truly find the value is in those teams for that business unit.

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spk07

Okay. Thanks, Gary. Our next question comes from the line of Mark Riddick with Sidoti & Company.

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Operator

Please proceed with your question.

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Q3

Good evening, everyone. I wanted to just touch a little bit on the follow-up on the construction commentary. I just want to sort of go back, because if I remember correctly, from a timing perspective, versus last year, there were impacts beyond the controllables, if you will. If I remember correctly, you had weather impacts, I think, if I remember correctly, both the fourth quarter and into the first quarter. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about the timing of maybe what you saw then and how that might sort of play out. I don't know if ease in comparison is a fair way to put it, but I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about maybe what you saw there and, you know, how we might see it flow through this time around.

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Gary Kramer

Yeah, we – you know, we saw our clients – start to shrink Q4 and it accelerated into Q1. It happened at the same time of you had interest rates going up really high. You had a shift in the macro economy. And then we also had terrible weather in California, specifically Northern Cal as well. So you had a consequence of all of these things happening at the same time. It left us in that position of, you know, we think it's a piece of, you know, it's a It was hard to discern from where we were sitting what was going to happen. We thought it was going to come back in Q2 of 23, but ultimately it didn't come back. But our confidence now is, you know, in those clients that reduced staff that we just referenced, we saw them hire more folks in Q3, and we saw sequentially our clients grow in Q3. So that's what gives us the optimism of, you know, they dipped for three quarters and then they pulled back and, you know, started to add people back into Q3 this year.

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Q3

Okay. Actually, yeah, that's where I was going with that. And then I was sort of curious as to, on a different track, but there was a little similarity there. So if you could bring us up to speed on maybe what you're seeing with the banking and finance customers, I mean, as we sort of anniversary those challenges that, again, are outside of the controllables, but maybe you can sort of bring us up to speed maybe on what you're seeing there.

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Anthony

Yeah, I mean, we really weren't that affected by the banking crisis a year ago. You know, we don't have a lot of direct clients in that space. Obviously, all of our clients use banking services, so we were watching very closely to see if there were any impacts of our clients. It really wasn't a prevailing pain point beyond a few anecdotal, you know, stories. So really, they recovered very quickly from that. I mean, for our clients in the blue and gray color space, the biggest – headwind has been construction and really driven by the cyclical nature of that with interest rates.

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Q3

Okay, great. And the last one for me, I was wondering if you could circle back to benefits for a moment. Are there any particular client verticals or any particular customer groups who have responded more positively than others, or are there any differentiation that you're seeing as to those who are being part of that ad. And then also maybe talk a little bit about the sales cycle and maybe how that's played out compared to what your expectations were. Thank you.

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Gary Kramer

Sure. So if you just think of who we're selling to, we're primarily trying to sell into our installed base. that's really no new vertical for us, but we're having good success selling it into our installed base and really in every state, right? There's not a state that we're not able to sell into. So we feel comfortable that we have the product that works in every state and that our clients are eager and willing to pay for. So we feel good there. The one thing I would just say that we're seeing success on is in our new markets, right? So Our market development managers, about 80% of the business they're bringing on for new business, they're selling benefits as well. So we feel pretty optimistic that in these green fields, they have many different products to sell, and they try to figure out what's the best way to crack their market, and they're doing a great job cracking their market. I'm proud of all of them. So just in general, in those new markets, we are seeing more white-collar than blue-collar. Just because of their comfort and maybe their perks and the folks that they know because we're typically hiring folks that come You know from in around the the business I'll say from our industry or adjacent industry, so Feel good with with the growth there And then it's the sales cycle, right? This is I mean, we know that this is not a quick sales cycle, right? It's it's typically going to take you you know, three months to four months, right? From the time you sell it, you know, from the time you do the underwriting and you sell to then you have to get the employees through the enrollment process. It just takes a little more lead time to make sure it's done properly and make sure it's done accurately. But, you know, like we wish we could give you a better number right now, but we're right in the middle of the thick for the 1-1 season. Most of the folks are going to make their decisions. Most of the clients are going to make their buying decisions in mid-November, mid to end November, with the idea of start your enrollments around Thanksgiving or the first week of December so that you have everything wrapped up by mid-December. But until we get through those enrollments, we're not going to have a real good definitive estimate on what we think our sell-through was for the 1-1 season.

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spk07

That's very helpful. Thank you very much. There are no further questions in the queue.

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Operator

I'd like to hand the call back to management for closing remarks.

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Gary Kramer

Thank you. Just again, I want to thank all the BBSI professionals for another great quarter on controllable growth. Everybody's doing a great job, and we appreciate everything you do for the organization. Thank you, everybody.

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and have a wonderful day.

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