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spk07: Welcome to the BEAM Global first quarter 2023 financial results and corporate update. All participants will be in a listen-only mode for the duration of the call. And should you need any assistance today, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw a question, please press star, then two. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to the Chief Financial Officer, Kathy McDermott. Please go ahead.
spk01: Thanks, Joe. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for participating in BEAM Global's 2023 First Quarter Conference Call. We appreciate you joining us today and hearing an update on our business. Joining me is Desmond Wheatley, President, CEO, and Chairman of BEAM. Desmond will be providing an update on recent activities at BEAM, followed by a question and answer session. But first, I'd like to communicate to you that during this call, management will be making forward-looking statements, including statements that address BEAM's expectations for future performance or operational results. Forward-looking statements involve risks and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those statements. For more information about these risks, please refer to the risk factors described in BEAM's most recent file, Form 10-K, and other periodic reports filed with the SEC. The content of this call contains time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of today, May 15, 2023. Except as required by law, BEAM disclaims any obligation to publicly update or revise any information to reflect events or circumstances that occur after this call. And next, I will provide you with the financial results for BEAM's first quarter of 2023. Our first quarter revenues started out very strong, increasing 245% over the first quarter of 2022 and 65% over the prior fourth quarter of 2022, which is typically our highest quarter. Revenues for the quarter ended March 31st, 2023, with $13 million compared to $3.8 million in the same quarter in the prior year. The increase can be attributed to the increase in federal sales, primarily to the U.S. Army, as a result of several large federal orders we received in late 2022 that will deliver through the end of 2023. Our manufacturing operations have increased our production capacity by increasing our production team, close management of our supply chain, and through improved tooling and design changes to allow us to fulfill this higher demand for our products. After many quarters of reporting a gross loss, we're happy to report a gross profit for the quarter ended March 31st, 2023. Our gross profit was 5,000 compared to loss of 0.3 million or 8.1 of sales for the first quarter of 2022. This improvement resulted from the increased production levels providing favorable fixed overhead absorption and improved labor efficiency. Our material costs for steel and other components remain higher than Q1 2022 due to supply chain shortages and other inflationary pressures. Also, our cost of goods sold includes 0.2 million of non-cash intangible amortization related to purchase assets from the all-sale acquisition. Operating expenses were 3.8 million or 30% of revenues for the first quarter of 2023 compared to 2 million or 52% of revenues for the same period in the prior year. We acquired all-sale technologies in March of 2022 and reported one month of expenses in Q1 2022 So 0.5 million of the increase is due to a full quarter of energy storage expenses in Q1-23. In addition, we invested 0.4 million for additional resources in R&D, 0.3 million for non-cash compensation expense, 0.3 million for audit fees, and 0.3 million for admin salaries and bonus expense. Our net loss was 3.8 million, but the three months ended March 31, 2023. compared to $2.3 million for the first quarter of 2022. These quarters included non-cash expense items such as depreciation, IP amortization, and non-cash compensation expense of $0.9 million and $0.4 million, respectively. Net loss excluding these expenses would have been $2.9 million and $1.9 million, respectively. On March 31, 2023, we had cash of $1 million compared to $1.7 million at December 31st, 2022. The cash decrease was primarily from the net loss as well as an increase in accounts receivable, partially offset by an increase in accounts payable. Our working capital decreased from $6.8 million to $5.5 million from December 31st, 2022 to March 31st, 2023. And with that, I will turn it over to Desmond.
spk03: Thank you, Cathy, and thank you to all of you shareholders, followers, and analysts who have joined this call to hear our Q1 2023 results. I'm going to make some comments, and then I'm looking forward to answering your questions before we close the meeting. Well, the Beam team really knocked it out of the park this quarter with record revenues and deliveries, a positive gross margin, and record Q1 sales orders and pipelines. This continues the team's trend of breaking records quarter over quarter and year over year. We generated by far the highest revenue of any quarter in our history. In fact, about three times more revenue than in the first quarter of the previous year, more than half as much again as in the prior quarter, and a quarterly revenue rate that was higher than any full year in our history, barring 2022. Q1 of 2023 is now our eighth quarter of consecutive revenue growth. and continues a trend which, barring a few minor instances, goes back a good deal longer than that. 2022 was a year in which the Beam team generated a 548% increase in orders over the prior year, and the prior year was up significantly over its predecessor. Clearly, demand for the product was no longer a problem. The new question in everybody's mind was whether or not we could deliver on all this growth. In this first quarter of 2023, the Beam team delivered more EV arcs and more battery systems than in any other quarter in our history. We delivered 150 EV arcs, up from 103 in the fourth quarter of 2022. And again, this delivery rate was higher than any full year in our history, except for 2022, which was, of course, a record year. By the end of 2022, our team in Chicago was producing about 10 times more kilowatt hours of batteries than Allcell, the company we acquired, did during the month prior to our acquisition. And that trend has continued through the first quarter of 2023 and was enabled without significant capital expenditure on our part. During the first quarter of 2023, the operations and engineering teams at Beam Global have continued to make improvements in our processes, fixtures, equipment, and product engineering. These improvements have taken place during the quarter and have resulted in a daily and weekly production rate at the end of the quarter, which is far superior to that which we began in 2023. I believe that the result of these activities will mean a continuation of our accelerating trend of production, so that in Q2, Q3, and Q4 of this year, we will continue to increase our output, absent any unforeseen event which is outside of our control. At any rate, even at our current run rate, we're on track to produce something like three times more EVRs in 2023 than we did in 2022, which, as I've already stated, was a record year and 144% over 2021. I've consistently stated that with increased volumes, we would see improvements to our growth profitability, and that assertion has certainly been borne out in this latest quarter. We reported a growth loss of 8.1% in the fourth quarter of 2022, But in the first quarter of 2023, we generated and reported positive gross profits, albeit a minor, and when excluding non-cash amortization of intangible assets resulting from our acquisition and wholesale, the picture was actually a couple of percentage points better. I repeat, we made money at the gross profit line across the entire Beam Global platform gap. And excluding the arcane accounting treatment of our very successful acquisition, we did better than we reported by about 2%. We achieved these improvements in gross profitability through combinations of increased efficiency, improved engineering, and the inevitable reduction of our per-unit fixed overhead allocation that comes with growth. I've long stated that we received positive margin contribution from the sale of EV arc systems. The GAAP numbers now show unequivocally that this is correct as we've reached a point in our levels of production where all our overhead costs associated with producing the products have been covered and we're now able to produce a gross profit across the company. I'm confident that these improvements in growth profitability will continue as our volumes increase and as we continually improve our processes and methods of manufacturing while upgrading our tooling and fixturing to increase our throughput and reduce labor hours per unit. But there will be other contributors to improving gross profitability, which I believe will have even more impact during the next two or three quarters. I'll describe the three most significant of those to you now. Firstly, our combined engineering team on both the battery and EV charging product side of the business has identified engineering and component improvements, which we believe will make the EV arc a better product while at the same time reducing our cost to produce them by between $10,000 and $12,000. This reduction in cost should equate to approximately 16% to 20% improvement to the margin contribution from a base EVR. We expect to see the impact of these improvements starting in a small way in the second quarter, but complete by the end of 2023. Secondly, because of the exceptional demand for our EVR products from both governmental and commercial entities, we have decided to increase our sales price for the first time by approximately 8.25% on a base model system. Pricing in EVR has, over the years, been the subject of much discussion and analysis here at Beam Global. On the one hand, because we have a unique and well-patented product with no direct competition in the marketplace, there's been a strong argument to suggest that increasing our prices makes sense. On the other hand, there's a competing argument. that increasing acceptance of the product and hence volumes of production was so important that doing anything that might create a hurdle for increased adoption, like, for example, increasing our prices, might in turn have a negative impact on the overall health of the business. We have been patient and we've been prepared to learn from the market And I'm delighted to report demand for our product is so strong and growing that after much consultation with our sales and marketing teams, we've come to the conclusion that we can increase our prices without having a negative impact on the order flow. On the contrary, we believe that the urgency of demand for our products will continue its long-term trend of increasing and accelerating. We've introduced this 840% increase in our selling price as a line item on our proposals. addressing the inflationary environment in which we're currently operating. We believe that this line item will be well understood and accepted by our prospective customers. And we're also encouraged by the flexibility that this price increase strategy affords us. The third contributor to our increasing profitability is the disinflationary impact to the cost that we're paying for components, commodities, and transportation. We first started to detect this trend towards the end of 2022, and we believe that we will see a decrease in the cost of materials and transportation throughout the remainder of 2023. I stress that the improvement of growth possibility in the first quarter of 2023 has not been assisted by this disinflationary trend, as we and our vendors have worked through inventories accumulated during the period of hyperinflation up to the end of last year. The result of this is that the EV arcs and batteries that we sold during the first quarter of 2023 were still negatively impacted by the highest costs that we've ever paid. And yet, we were able to improve our gross profitability and generate positive gross profits in spite of these influences. We should start to see the positive impacts of the disinflationary environment on our cost of goods sold, starting in a minor way in the second quarter and continuing throughout the rest of 2023. By taking the impact of all three contributors to improving gross profitability, along with our already demonstrated ongoing improvements resulting from increased volumes and efficiencies, we can do some simple arithmetic. 16% to 20% of improvement through engineering enhancements, 8.25% improvement due to our price increase, and an as yet unidentifiable improvement as a result of disinflationary activities amounts to a potential for approximately 24% improvement over our current positive gross margins. I've stated before that I'm targeting a 50% gross profit on our EV arc and other charging products. And I think you can see with the outlined improvements I've just described that we're taking the right steps to move towards that goal. Cost improvements are a process, not an event. And as I've said, we'll start to see the benefits of the steps we're taking in the second quarter, but more dramatically in the third and fourth quarters of this year. In the interest of being abundantly clear, the price increase I've just announced became effective on May 1st of this year, and as a result, had no impact on our gross profitability in the first quarter. All of the improvements in gross profitability in Q1 came as a result of increased efficiencies and volumes. The impact of this price increase will be on any new orders which come in and are delivered after we've worked our way through our currently priced backlog. The other cost savings that I've mentioned above will be impactful to elements of our current price backlog because we'll institute these changes as quickly as we possibly can. And as I've already stated, we expect to see these improvements take effect beginning modestly in this quarter and continuing with more vigor during the remainder of the year. Our constantly improving growth profitability provides the best type of support for our cash position. We continue to manage cash carefully and with prudence. We have approximately $5 million in cash in the bank today, which is significantly more than we reported on our balance sheet at 12-31 or 3-31 of 2023. We have over $100 million of liquidity because in addition to the $5 million we have in the bank, we still have the as yet unused $100 million line of credit issued to us by the OCI Group in London. As a reminder, this $100 million line of credit is liquidity that we can use at our discretion at a cost of SOFR, or the secured overnight finance rate, plus 300 basis points. There are no other fees or costs associated with using this money, and there is no equity impact whatsoever. I'm aware that the cash position on our balance sheet has sometimes raised a few eyebrows. But as we very clearly demonstrated in the first quarter of this year, we have managed to dramatically increase our production and improve our profitability while maintaining a disciplined approach to managing our cash resources. Further insight into our cash out comes from looking at our working capital position, which stands at approximately $13 million when excluding non-cash items. It's essential to recognize the positive contribution margin from our products when understanding our cash. This has been made abundantly clear by our positive growth probability in the first quarter of 2023. As we see increased volumes of products moving through our factory, combined with our planned cost reductions and our pricing increase, we will see an increase in contribution margin, which will have a further positive impact on improving our cash flow. We should continue to see this increase in volume, not only because we started 2023 with the highest contracted backlog in our history, but also because the Beam Global sales team has produced a record first quarter of selling, while our operations team has produced a record quarter of production. The sales team sold more product in the first quarter of 2023 than in any first quarter in our history. But perhaps much more importantly, Our pipeline now stands at over $130 million, which is the highest pipeline position we've ever had at this time of year. And last year, we took a beginning pipeline of $80 million and converted $76 million of it into hard contracts. We now have $130 million in pipeline. And while no one can say with certainty what percentage of that pipeline will convert to backlog, our historical performance has certainly been very good. we will undoubtedly still see lumpiness in orders, somewhat driven by degrees of seasonality amongst the varied strata of customer prospects we target. But this very strong first quarter shows that even with the lumpiness, the general trend continues to grow and indeed accelerate. This lumpiness in order cadence has replaced what used to be lumpiness in revenues. However, we're no longer experiencing choppy revenue recognition. That has been replaced by consistent and dramatic growth. A little over half the orders we received in the first quarter came from governments, with the remainder coming from commercial entities, continuing a trend of a return from the commercial sector into our sales pipeline. We announced orders from one of the top global automotive OEMs, as well as from the materials re-handling sector and a fascinating robotics company. On the government and pseudo-governmental side, we saw interesting growth from corrections and native nations. This healthy mix of government and commercial business looks set to continue and is certainly represented in our greater than $130 million pipeline. We are seeing no indication of a reduction in investments in electric vehicle charging infrastructure, energy storage, or energy security. We will continue to grow our intellectual property portfolio on both the battery and EV charging side of the business. Already in 2023, we've announced new patents in Asia and Europe for both sides of the business. We intend to pursue our EV standard product as resources permit during the remainder of 2023, and our engineering teams will not cease from seeking methods to improve our existing products, making them of greater value for our customers while reducing our costs to produce them. We will continue to invest in sales and government relations activities, as well as R&D, and we will not shy away from opportunities to grow geographically. particularly where massive markets like Europe exist that are so well matched to the fantastic value proposition delivered by our products. None of these activities will in any way reduce our laser focus on continuing to improve our growth possibility and manage our cash. You need not take my word for this. It's absolutely clear in this quarter's results. In summary, the Beam team delivered more products than in any quarter in our history. We tripled our revenues over the same period prior year. We generated a positive gross profit across the company, and we have more cash in the bank today than we had at the end of 2022 without, and I stress this, without tapping our as yet unused $100 million credit facility. We have clearly identifiable and achievable opportunities for continued dramatic improvements to our gross profitability to be executed during the remainder of this year. We continue to break sales records in a market which shows no signs of abatings. We have increased our patent portfolio with it, and with it, the barrier to entry for the competition, and we have a roadmap of new and excellent products to bring to market. So far, all of the success has been derived within the United States, but we continue to see opportunities to replicate and accelerate the success internationally. The public markets have certainly been a challenging environment for growth stocks like ours. I believe our share price has been impacted by factors which are clearly not linked to our performance. We cannot impact the behavior of the broader markets, but we can continue to deliver material and excellent improvements to our performance. We have done, are doing, and will continue to do exactly that. I'll now return the call to the operator and take any questions which you may have.
spk07: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. And to withdraw a question, please press star, then two. At this time, we will take our first question.
spk03: Just for a point of clarity, before we take the first question, I am doing follow-up calls with all the analysts after this call. So don't be surprised if you don't hear a lot of analyst questions. And analysts, if you're listening, feel free to ask me during the follow-up calls. Or now, if you would prefer, I'll take the questions at either event.
spk07: No problem. We will take our first question now from Tyler DiMatteo with BTIG. Please go ahead with your question.
spk05: Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking the question. So, Desmond, I wanted to start out with a higher level one here and just how you're thinking about managing the growth of the business and really balancing that with an uncertain macro environment. I know you alluded to how you haven't seen EV charging demand let up, you know, the order book continues to look very good. I was just curious to hear how you're thinking about kind of that balancing act and really growing the business here at a higher level.
spk03: Well, hello, Tyler. Well, first of all, we still have a great deal of untapped excess capacity in our factory facility. Even with these growth numbers, we've got a long way to go before we fill this place up, which means that we will be able to execute on growth, which we see coming without significant capital expenditures and while managing our cash as it is. But to your broader question, I mean, assuming we're talking about moving into a sort of recessionary environment, we're not already in one. I think, frankly, having an infrastructure product, particularly one that is so key to energy security and so important to the electrification of transportation, which I view as an inevitability, is going to be one of the few bright spots in that recessionary environment, which I, frankly, in my glummer days, believe we're heading into. In fact, There's another side of this for us, which is that we're not seeing any let up whatsoever in demand for our products, either on the EV charging or energy storage side of the business. And at the same time, what we do anticipate is a reduction in costs across the board as a result of a less active economic environment. So transportation prices, we've already seen come down dramatically. I think that's a leading indicator. We believe that we're starting to see an increase in available labor. And then the commodity and component prices that we're paying at the moment, which is, as Cathy and I both pointed out, we're still suffering from the backlog of inventory that we have, for which we paid the highest prices than we've ever paid in our history. We believe all those things are going to come down and probably even more quickly as a result of the recessionary environment. So I hate to say this, but frankly, I don't believe recession would be bad for us at all. I don't think we'll see any impact of the top line. Nothing in our pipeline will be impacted by it. But I do believe it will assist our ongoing efforts to improve our profitability.
spk05: Okay, great. And then going off that then, Desmond, I guess how are you thinking about kind of prioritizing the order book here? I guess given this, you know, robust backlog of infrastructure and just how are you thinking about kind of managing the order book here?
spk03: Yeah, frankly, honestly, Tyler, that's one of the biggest challenges that we have at the moment because of the historically high backlog that we've reported, there's not a single customer in there that wouldn't take the product tomorrow. I mean, and I'm being somewhat flippant with my words, but let's put it this way. There's no customer there that wants their product later than 2023. There's nothing material. And so what that means is our challenge at the moment is not a matter of, as I said in my comments, it's not a demand problem. It's a supply problem. Now, we are just ramping up to execute on the orders and get them out to customers as quickly as possible. Whenever a customer wants something fast and you can deliver it to you, there's always a bit of a conversation around that. But, you know, that's just, we've seen this challenge coming for a long time. I've been anticipating this growth for a long time. We're executing on it. The operations team doing a fantastic job. They're just getting better and better. And again, we still have a whole lot of capacity left in the factory here. So we'll keep talking to our customers. And any way you look at it, an EV arc, which is a little bit later than you were hoping to get it as a customer, still a hell of a lot sooner than you could dig the trenches and go through the permitting. and pour the concrete and everything else like that to do a grid-tied installation. So I think we're in pretty good shape where that's concerned.
spk05: Okay, great. Very helpful. Thank you for the time, guys. Really appreciate it. I'll turn it back to the keel.
spk07: And our next question will come from Christopher Seller with B. Riley. Please go ahead with your questions.
spk06: Hey, thanks for taking my question here. So on that $10,000 to $12,000 in cost doubts, it's pretty impressive. Can you walk through the magnitude of some of the main items there? And then it sounded like on time, I think it's two, three quarters to kind of hit that full magnitude there potentially.
spk03: Well, Chris, as you know, our product is fairly complex. We make it very, very simple for our customers and users to operate it, but there's a lot of complexity going on inside a lot of intellectual property. I'm not going to go down into detail on exactly where we're getting these cost savings, because I'm not going to give anyone an instruction manual to do that. But suffice it to say, across batteries and some of the other components and the way that we're putting the thing together, again, I've been consistent with this over all of our reporting periods, that we keep pushing the engineers and the operations teams to find ways to make the product less expensive, but not at the expense of quality or safety. And they have done yeoman's work where that is concerned. It is a bit of a process because obviously we've got product in process right now, WIP, work in process product, and some of the new pieces and components that we'll have to integrate into the product have lead times to them. So as I mentioned in my comments, very early beginnings of improvement starting towards the end of this quarter with much more activity in the third and fourth quarter, but I fully anticipate that we will have all of these positive impacts from a cost reduction point of view that I have disclosed to you today, in effect, before the end of 2023. The price increase is going to be, actually, oddly enough, you'd think that would be the easiest one to do, but in fact, because as I mentioned, none of the product that we've delivered to date this year has been impacted by that price increase because, of course, we're not increasing the prices on products that we have already contracted And so the price increases for now new orders that are coming in. Some of those you will inevitably see injected in because we will, some of those newer orders, we will inject into our current backlog of deliveries. But you're not going to see the material impact from that until we work through this backlog. And then, and so that, again, as I mentioned, everybody wants that by this year. So you should anticipate seeing the really material impact from the price increase once we've worked through that backlog.
spk06: Okay, yeah, that's helpful. Maybe as a follow-up, can you just give us, you know, timing or volumes you think, you know, in order for us to hit kind of EBITDA positive now that, you know, gross margin positive seems like it's, you know, here and here to stay?
spk03: Yes, so let's assume that I am right And that we will hit these cost reductions and that we will increase our price the way that I've described it. Let's assume I'm right. And I remind you that I have been right about most of, in fact, not all of the comments that I've made along these lines historically. And I don't intend to start being wrong today. But assuming that we are right about that, then we would need to produce something between a sort of 170 and 180 units in a quarter to soak up the net loss, which we reported in the first quarter. Well, as I just told you, we just produced 150 units in this quarter, so we're clearly not very far away from that. So, you know, without going into too much detail and giving anything that looks too much like guidance here, what you can clearly see is that with our current cadence and our current backlog, in the event that we are successful with the cost reductions that I've described, and we intend to be, then we're on a run rate right now that would get us to EBITDA positive. Now, that, of course, can also be impacted by other things that we do. We might elect to make further investments in sales and government relations that I've already described, or R&D, And I haven't shied away from the fact that I'm still acquisitive if these things come down the pipe. But based on our current book of business and our current order cadence, we're currently operating at about a level that after these cost savings are introduced would get us to EBITDA positive or thereabouts.
spk06: Okay. That's really helpful. I'll hop in the queue. Thank you. Thanks, Chris.
spk03: Thanks, Chris.
spk07: And our next question will come from Noel Parks with Tiwi Brothers. Please go ahead with your question. Hello, Noel.
spk10: Hi, good afternoon. Just had a couple. I wonder if you could just talk a bit about the sales and marketing effort. And it was great to hear the detail you had as far as the commercial types of clients that you'd had growth with and the government. But I'm just curious, at this point, is as far as sort of inbound inquiries versus, you know, sales outreach, new customers versus repeat customers. Talk a little bit about what you're seeing currently and what the trends look like.
spk03: Well, we've certainly got a lot of repeat customers. That's good news and a great validation of the product, even in the harshest environments across the country. Look, the sales team is active and aggressively going after this. You know, after the third quarter last year when we announced some extraordinarily large sales people, I suppose the less optimistic people out there said, oh, well, maybe that's you, one and done. Nonsense. The sales team has been aggressively selling and has not slowed down at all since that time. We don't view this as an arrival. We view this as a first step. We continue to look for aggressive salespeople. And we get a lot of repeat orders. We do get a lot of incoming inquiries. And we also go to the trade shows. We were at ACT a couple of weeks ago. We're very well received in those environments. And dare I say it, the more people understand what's required to deploy grid-tied EV chargers, the easier our selling proposition becomes, remembering that we're not competing with EV charging companies. We're deploying the ChargePoints and the Blinks and the Electrify Americas and everybody else. We're not competing with them, we're assisting them. But anyone who starts to understand the complexities of deploying the grid-tied infrastructure, they become a much easier sell for us. And so it's across the board combination. We've got healthy incomings from the website. We've got aggressive sales team, both government and commercial. I mentioned we had a 548% increase in year-over-year orders last year. I think it was something like 1,100% increase in commercial orders, albeit from a smaller number. So, yes, that commercial thing has come back, just as I had already alluded in prior quarters to commercial returning post-vaccine, post-COVID with a return to the office. But it's a mixture of all three things. Repeat customers, incomings from the website or people who have just seen the product and then... the aggressive sales team that we have and that will continue to grow and train and give them better and better sales tools as well. The videos we have on the website right now, by far the highest quality videos we've ever produced, really good explanation of the value of the product and everything else. You watch one of those videos for two minutes and you understand everything you need to know about why you ought to own our products.
spk10: Terrific. And you touched on the international opportunities and the largely untapped to this point. And as far as any conversion modification for the EVR to be compatible with charging hardware that's not much in evidence in the U.S., is it relatively close to plug-and-play or are they just sort of user interface changes that need to be made? Or is that more of sort of like a long-term development project for being able to sort of handle another generation, another region's charging?
spk03: If you make an electric product for the United States, Marcus, and then you try and make it and sell it into Europe, you have to make significant modifications to it because of the difference in cycles and voltages and everything else on the European grid. If you make a product which derives all this energy from the sun, you have no such problems. And so then it's just a question of whether or not we can convert sunlight and store sunlight and produce a current and the cycles that are required to operate European EV shorting infrastructure. And the answer is resoundingly yes. Not technically difficult at all. It will be no hurdle for us whatsoever.
spk10: Great. Thanks a lot.
spk07: Thank you. And our next question will come from Abhi Sinha with Northland Capital. Please go ahead with your question.
spk02: Yeah. Hi, thanks for taking my question and congrats again for the very good quarter here. I just want to make sure I understand this right. So I know this one is talked about that you had a very good quarter or very good number of orders from last quarter that resulted in such a good 150 units or so. So is the gross margin here Based on the number of units that you will have for future recorders, would that be here positive to stay? Or would the numbers you still expect to be a little bit more lumpy here and we still see gross margin up and down here? I just want to make sure I understand that right.
spk03: Well, we do not anticipate that our gross margins will get worse than they are today. We anticipate that they will continue to improve.
spk02: Sure. Thank you. And then just one as a follow-up here, I wanted to understand, you talked about earlier on basically in terms of the great order that you got from the automotive company. And I know you did not give any specifics on that. I just wanted to make sure if you could talk about, you know, how you get into the order, some kind of in terms of like how long does it take, And would you expect more repetitive orders from that company and, you know, what the other companies are reacting to that?
spk03: Yes. Okay. So, first of all, let me just be clear about why we don't name customers and sometimes the magnitude of the orders that we get. There are two reasons. The first one is sometimes it's the customer's request. And in this instance, the automotive OEM is a household name. And they do not wish to share with their competitors or with the market what they're up to at the moment. And we, of course, will respect that because much as we'd like to tell everybody who it is, we'd much prefer to have a long and fruitful relationship with them. The second reason that we don't announce orders, and this is actually more true on the on their energy storage side of the house than it is on the EV arc side of the house where there's really no competing product. It's because, frankly, we don't want to inform our competitors who they should add to their prospect list so that we have to sell against them in that environment. As I say, that's much less of a concern where the EV arc is concerned because we don't really have any competitors where that product is concerned. But on the battery side, that's it. So those are the two reasons why we don't name, either to respect the customer's wishes or because we do not wish to inform competitors. our competitors as to who they should be adding to their lists. But in every instance, I don't think we sell to anybody where we think it's not going to be bigger. And I would say in the case of the automotive OEM, we recognize that as a very, very large opportunity. We can never know if it will indeed blossom into one of those things with any certainty. But we certainly will continue to work towards that. And we believe that we have a very, very good value proposition for them and some very interesting things to do with them in the future. Does that answer your question? Sorry.
spk02: Sure. No, yeah, I understand that. Yeah, I just wanted to make sure if you could kind of provide some ground. How long does it take for you guys to get to the order?
spk03: Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. I knew there was something that I'd missed. Okay, so as far as order, the length of time is concerned. This is, frankly, the other good news where our business is concerned. In the early days, we used to get small orders, and it used to take a very long time to get them from initial inquiry to purchase order. We are getting increasingly large orders, and they are converting from pipeline into backlog increasingly quickly. As I already mentioned, last year we converted about $80 million of pipeline into $76 million of backlog within the year. So it's accelerating and increasing the size of the orders. But there's still some of them. happen very quickly some of them still take a long time to happen but the good news is they seem to happen with much more reliability now and with more speed than any time in our history all right sure thank you thank you that's all i have thank you and our next question will come from tate sullivan with maxim group please go ahead with your question
spk04: Hello, Kate. Thank you. Hello, Desmond. I think you said earlier you have $5 million in cash today. Is that related to accounts receivable? And I see in the queue that 80% of accounts receivable is from the Army. Does the Army have long payment terms? Can you go into a bit on the $5 million in cash?
spk03: If you're interested in looking at our cash position and understanding AR versus AP and all that, the good news is all of that is outlined in our filings. So, working capital is the best indicator of that. And as I said in my comments, and in fact, Cathy mentioned it too, be careful looking at our working capital because it looks smaller than it in fact is because it's negatively impacted by just under $7 million of non-cash amortization of a contingent consideration for an earn-out payment based on our earnings. on our acquisition and a couple other things, which, as I've said before, making those earn-out payments is the best thing that we can possibly do. They're not cash, and they're a strong indication of the strong performance of the acquisition that we made. So that's where to look for that. Cash is part of the reason that I mentioned the cash positions, because I want people to understand that cash is going to jump around all over the place. It's impacted by AR and AP and vendor prepayments and all sorts of other stuff, and we described that adequately. But I do think it's important to note That, you know, while there's, you know, on the balance sheet, we reported a declining cash position, you know, part of that is temporal. And that's part of the reason that we thought it was important to let people understand that, in fact, we have more cash in the bank today than we reported at the end of the quarter.
spk04: And the U.S. Army is a large customer. Can you talk – where do they – I think another company I've heard mention that the Army has an active decarbonization effort, $7 billion in spending through now in 2027. Does it come – does the Army order – do the Army orders come from the GSA contract structure or another budget? Yeah.
spk03: So broadly speaking, you are right that the Army has announced a very significant amount of money. You're also right when you're looking at the fact that the Army, like every other federal entity, is obliged to convert all of its light-duty vehicles to zero emissions by 2027 and essentially all of its non-tactical vehicles by 2035. So we believe that there will continue to be a significant amount order stream coming through our GSA contract. It's certainly a very useful vehicle which allows federal entities to acquire products without having to go through a competitive process because that's already been done. And remember that GSA contract is also made available to non-governmental entities. So we think there's a great future with Army and with others. And by the way, to quiet anyone's concerns about this, because I've heard this before, they pay. We get paid very well by them. People often say, oh, government won't pay you. I don't know what they're talking about. We get paid very well by them. Okay. Thank you, Desmond. Thank you, too.
spk07: And our next question will come from Chris Pierce with Needham & Company. Please go ahead with your question.
spk09: Hi, Chris. Hey, Desmond. How are you doing? Just two questions. Can you confirm the EVR delivery numbers you quoted? I got 150 in the first quarter. I believe you said 103 in the fourth quarter. That's a pretty big ramp from 3Q to 4Q, then again from 4Q to 1Q if I have those right. I just want to think, how should investors think about the ramp from here? Is it more iterative from here, or could we still see large jumps like we just saw the last two quarters?
spk03: Well, the first thing investors should take note of is that we do what we say we're going to do. And I think that's important. And you're right, these are big ramps. And I can tell you that people are pulling at the oars here to get this done. But I also want you to know that we still have a lot of excess capacity in our facility. That's the no good deed goes unpunished thing of having invested in this facility for as long as we have done and taken the negative margin impacts as a result of the fixed overheads. But we still got a lot of capacity. Look, no business is going to keep producing triple-digit growth after triple-digit growth after triple-digit growth quarter after quarter. Because as the absolute numbers get bigger, that becomes a much heavier lift. But what I believe you will see is a continuation in our increasing production cadence. And what we're going to do is manage that to make sure that we increase the production cadence in the most economically viable way possible. So in other words, we're not just going to go crazy and start puking out product. We want to do that while keeping profitability very much within our sites. And so that requires a sober approach to growth. But I'm not planning on having any. The next time I have this conversation with you, I'm not planning on having anything other than more growth to describe.
spk09: Okay. And then just so I, you talked about 1 million in cash as of March 31st, 5 million in cash as of today, but how do you, how do you, you know, how do investors square that with the $3.8 million loss that you just reported? Cause that's, you know, less than two quarters of cash on hand, but I know you've talked about the line of credit as well. I guess you kind of just weave all this together for me one more time, please.
spk03: Yeah. So the key thing to understand is we have not repeat and underscore not tapped the line of credit. Um, So what you've got to look at, again, and I keep going on about this and people are sick of hearing me talking about it, but what you've got to look at is a working capital that we've described in the past. If you look to our inventory positions, if you look to our WIP, if you look to our vendor prepayments, if you look to our AR, for example, a perfect example, at 1231 of 22, we announced 1.7 cash on the balance sheet. But if you looked directly below that, there was another four plus million in AR. And as I say, we get paid and we often get paid in less than 30 days. So you shouldn't be surprised to see an increase in cash in this way because it's just – if we have all that inventory and if we have all that AR and we have all those other things like that, we're going to convert inventory into product. We're going to convert WIP into product. We're going to sell it, and we're going to get paid. We don't have any – I'm looking at Cathy right now. We don't have any bad debt at all. So we're going to get paid. So that's what you're looking at there, basically. It's just what we said last quarter, that people should not get too hung up on the cash number. They should be looking at our inventory, work in progress, AR and all those other things, obviously net of AP and other stuff as well, to get a fuller understanding. And as I've just announced, we are approximately 13 million in working capital right now, And at the end of the day, that converts to cash for us, and usually fairly quickly. So that's why we're able to do that. The net loss is another thing. And, of course, that does contribute to it. But to a lesser and lesser extent, the more product we produce, and certainly now that we're gross profit, profitable.
spk02: Okay.
spk07: Thank you. Thank you, Chris. As a reminder, if you have a question, you may join the queue by pressing star then 1 on your telephone keypad. Our next question here will come from Daniel Marsala with Cardona and Company. Please go ahead with your question.
spk08: Hey, Desmond. How are you? Congratulations on the good quarter.
spk03: Thank you, Daniel. Thank you.
spk08: Are you able to speak to – I know there's a lot of conversation about increasing production, and clearly you're doing that – the logistics of transporting arcs to the other side of the country? You know, you had big major orders from New York City. I know there's – Army bases all over the country? How are you increasing the ability to transport the ARCs?
spk03: Yes, that's an excellent question, Daniel. You can no doubt imagine it's one that gets a lot of attention here. So the truth is we have two or three different methods that we use to transport EV ARCs. Some of them are on our own equipment that we own here. And frankly, those are the most efficient ways of transporting them because they don't just transport, but they also deploy the product. when it arrives on site. But beyond that, we also use third-party logistics companies. So an EV arc, for example, you put an EV arc in a 20-foot shipping container or two of them in a 40, you can put a couple of them on the back of a 40-foot flatbed. And this is frankly an area that's sort of good news for us, not good news if you're a truck driver, but the cost of doing that has very, very dramatically reduced. And also just availability of trucks. This time last year, if we're loving our money, we could already get them to show up, and it was very expensive. Now, they're calling us and looking for loads, and that's having a predictable price on the price that we're paying for that, a predictable impact on the price that we're paying for that. I'll just give you an example. I mean, we do still, as much as we try not to, we do import components from Asia that end up in our products. And it costs about five times less to get a shipping container across the Pacific today than it did this time last year. So we have a lot of choices in terms of how we move the product around. But I've made no secret of the fact that I think our future involves us having facilities like this dotted across the country. We're certainly going to have to do that from a demand point of view as far as I believe. And when we do that, obviously, we will select to deliver from the facility closest to the customer.
spk08: Got it. Thank you. And recently there was an announcement about a more compact arc, a patent for a more compact arc. Can you speak about that a little bit?
spk03: Yes. Actually, that's a European patent issued to us for something that we already had, which is what we used to refer to as transformer arc. But in fact, all EV arcs are like that now. All EV arcs fold down and in upon themselves, rather like a satellite. for shipping and transportation. We view that as a very significant differentiator for us because that's how we're able to show up on a customer site and deploy in less than an hour with absolutely no on-site or very little on-site activity, I should say. That's a significant differentiator and therefore a barrier to entry. We had that protected in the United States. We now have that protected across the European continent.
spk08: Great. Thank you very much.
spk03: Thank you.
spk07: And this concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Desmond Wheatley for any closing remarks.
spk03: Well, I'm going to keep my closing remarks short because I've got to get back to work here. We're busier than hell. The team is performing fantastically, and I can tell there's a lot of enthusiasm around here at the moment because everybody knows that as good as it is, we're going to be able to do a whole lot better. And that's where our focus is right now. As I mentioned in my comments, profitability and production, major, major areas of focus. And we've delivered on that better than 8% improvement quarter over quarter from a profitability point of view and positive gross profits. We're still going to be laser focused on cash management as well. You know, all the jokes about Scotsman and money are true. Listen to them and believe them. I'm loving what I'm doing at the moment. I love this company. I love the team of people that we've put together and we're, we're, we've got nothing but climbing and growth ahead of us. So I very much appreciate you being involved. Thank you for your interest and for your questions. And if you hold our sock, thank you for that too. With that, I'll hand it over to the operator to end the call, I think.
spk07: The conference has now concluded. Thank you very much for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a great day.
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