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spk07: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the BigCommerce Second Quarter 2024 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your first speaker today, Tyler Duncan, Senior Director of Finance and Investor Relations. You may begin.
spk13: Good morning and welcome to BigCommerce's Second Quarter 2024 earnings call. We will be discussing the results announced in our press release issued before today's market open. With me are BigCommerce's Chief Executive Officer and Chairman, Brent Bellum, and Chief Financial Officer, Daniel Lentz. Today's call will contain certain forward-looking statements which are made pursuant to the of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements include statements concerning financial and business trends, as well as our expected future business and financial performance, financial condition, and our guidance for both the third quarter of 2024 and the full year 2024. These statements can be identified by words such as expect, anticipate, intend, plan, believe, seek, committed, will, or similar words. These statements reflect our views as of today only and should not be relied upon as representing our views at any subsequent date, and we do not undertake any duty to update these statements. Forward-looking statements, by their nature, address matters that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. For discussion of the material risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, please refer to the risks and other disclosures contained in our filings with Securities and Exchange Commission. During the call, we will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures which are not prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. The reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure, as well as how we define these metrics and other metrics, is included in our earnings press release, which has been furnished to the SEC and is also available on our website at .bigcommerce.com. With that, let me turn the call over to Britt.
spk10: Thanks, Tyler, and thanks everyone for joining us. Our number one priority for 2024 remains efficient revenue growth, and I'm excited to share updates on our progress towards that goal during our call today. First, I'll provide a brief summary of our quarterly results. Following that, I'll highlight some exciting customer launches that showcase the power of our platform. Then, I'll discuss our latest product innovations that fuel growth and innovation for our customers. Finally, I'll look ahead at what's next for the business. Q2 delivered results consistent with their top and bottom line plans. Revenue finished just under $82 million, of 8% year over year. Adjusted EVA DAU came in at $3 million, or approximately 4% of revenue. We also had a strong quarter from a cash flow perspective, achieving operating cash flow of just under $12 million. We see tremendous upside in this business, and Q2 results highlight our progress and the success that our customers are seeing on our platform. I'm thrilled to announce that the RealReal, the world's largest online marketplace for authenticated resale luxury goods, has launched on BigCommerce. This implementation allows the RealReal to fully leverage BigCommerce's industry-leading checkout and shopping cart functionality, which they integrated with their existing systems in a phased, composable approach. The result has been a faster and more intuitive checkout process for the RealReal customers, and improvements in the brand's new customer purchase conversion rate. The RealReal nicely demonstrates BigCommerce's continued traction in luxury apparel, composability, complex enterprise implementations, and high-volume sites, in their case, selling more than $1 billion online annually. Also just launched on BigCommerce's bells, the Florida-based department store chain with more than 600 stores and 100 years of proud history. They achieved a remarkably successful migration of multiple brands from legacy platform HCL Commerce in just three months from contract signature. Notably, Bells utilized BigCommerce's new reference composable architecture, Catalyst, in conjunction with Versel for hosting, Manhattan for OMS, and a tech stack tailored to their omni-channel operations. Bells and their agency partner, DMI, heavily customized the BigCommerce checkout to incorporate their specific payments, tax, and shipping requirements. In some, Bells showcases the unprecedented speed with which complex store-based retailers can migrate from legacy to fully modern composable technology, in this case, Catalyst, our next JS and React-based architecture. As part of a wider digital transformation project, Sportshoes, the UK's largest independent retailer of sporting goods, has unveiled a new composable commerce website on BigCommerce. Sportshoes is dedicated to helping people lead happier, healthier lives through running and fitness, catering to everyone from elite athletes to fitness beginners. Sportshoes chose BigCommerce and our partner ecosystem to modernize their e-commerce operations and website. Since migrating to BigCommerce, Sportshoes has seen significant improvements in conversion, average order value, and checkout completions, enhancing their ability to deliver the best online retail experience for their customers. Our B2B segment continues to show strong momentum with a number of manufacturers, suppliers, and distributors moving to BigCommerce. For example, Inovus, a medical technology company with $1.7 billion in revenue, migrated to our platform in Q2 from Magento to escape escalating costs and reliability issues. Leveraging BigCommerce's robust B2B features, Inovus has experienced greater platform stability and efficiency since migrating. Enhancements like real-time stock visibility have significantly boosted their customer experience and operational effectiveness, positioning Inovus for sustained growth in the B2B market. Additionally, we welcome Sterrett, a renowned manufacturer of precision tools. They upgraded to BigCommerce while retaining their existing content management system, which streamlined their purchasing process, improved user management, and enhanced security. In Q2, leading brands and retailers such as Patagonia, Melissa and Doug, and Farity Brand turned to Phaetonomics to optimize their data and performance across search, social, affiliate, and marketing channels. Duny & Bork, a renowned leather goods company known for its superior quality handbags, luggage, and accessories, selected Phaetonomics to optimize product data and improve keyword I'm proud of the progress and results that our customers are achieving with BigCommerce, and these stories illustrate our platform's ability to deliver exceptional performance, flexibility, and growth across various industries and customer segments. Later this month in Austin, we're excited to showcase our latest product advancements under the banner of Next Big Thing at Big Summit, our annual flagship event in North America. Big Summit has historically been a partner event, but encouraged by the approach of our team in EMEA at their Big Summit in April. We will also expand the Americas Big Summit to welcome customers and prospects. We're thrilled to have industry leaders like Walmart and e-commerce innovators like Burrow speaking at the event. At the EMEA Big Summit in April, we announced over 100 new innovative features and partner integrations as part of the inaugural Next Big Thing. While I won't cover the entire list, I'd like to highlight a few major releases from Q2. We expanded our customers' global reach with new multi-geographic selling functionality. After a successful closed beta with over 200 participants, we soft-launched international storefronts with a full launch and additional features planned for Q3. Our multi-geo offering now allows brands and retailers to offer unique checkout experiences per storefront, enabling shoppers in different regions to select their preferred storefront for a truly local experience. Additionally, in partnership with Fujitsu, we introduced Japanese as a supported language in the control panel and as an option for automatic storefront translation. After highlighting the open-sourcing of our B2B buyer portal last quarter, we're excited to announce our next major B2B release, Custom Buyer Roles in Permission Management. This strategic enhancement supports complex organization structures and unique workflows common to B2B businesses. For business buyers, this functionality improves purchasing controls and oversight, operational efficiency, and customer satisfaction and loyalty. We are leveraging generative AI technology to enhance customer growth on big commerce with tools like Big AI Copywriter, which is being updated this month to use Google's more powerful Gemini AI. Big AI Copywriter streamlines workflows and saves time by generating high-quality, high-performing product descriptions. In July, we launched the beta of AI-powered product recommendations, also powered by Google AI, offering personalized and highly relevant product suggestions to shoppers in real time, thereby increasing average order value and conversion rates. Later in the year, we are planning to launch generative AI-assisted quoting workflows for B2B sellers. Our subsidiary, Piedonomics, utilizes AI to optimize product data and improve keyword relevancy across major channels, driving more impressions and increased revenue for brands like Patagonia and Dell. Additionally, our recently acquired visual site editor, makeswift, is investing in AI to generate page layouts and creative content, enabling non-technical users to effortlessly design and publish engaging site content. Earlier this year, we announced that Big Commerce was the first e-commerce platform to integrate with Fastlane, PayPal's passwordless accelerated guest checkout solution, which speeds shoppers through checkout and drives higher conversion rates. I'm excited to share that this feature will become available to all of our US customers starting in August. In aggregate, Big Commerce's product capabilities, innovation, and quality continue to receive industry recognition and awards. For the second consecutive year, Big Commerce achieved a perfect score in the paradigm B2B combines for digital commerce solutions, earning medals in 24 out of 24 categories. In the mid-market review, Big Commerce received the most gold medals and the highest aggregate medal count of any B2B platform in the world. IDC named us a leader in the IDC market scape for worldwide enterprise B2C digital commerce applications and also recognized us as a leader in their market scapes for worldwide enterprise headless digital commerce platforms and mid-market growth. I'd now like to provide an update to the -to-market changes and improvements we're making under the leadership of our new president, Travis Hess. Under Travis, we have unified -to-end ownership of the customer, including acquisition, satisfaction, and growth. As a result, we're improving operational processes and metrics to drive customer retention, success, and expansion. We've seen encouraging results in multi-product sales, inclusive of our core e-commerce platform, Pheonomics, makeswift, and the products and services of our partner ecosystem. Growth and net retention rates are pacing well against our internal plans. We're excited by gains already achieved in -to-market efficiency and cohesion, and we expect continued improvements in the quarters ahead. In terms of customer acquisition, we're improving the targeting and efficiency of marketing spend by refining our ideal customer profile definitions. Leveraging Travis's background from Accenture, we're expanding our network of global systems integrator partnerships, building on existing relationships such as WPP and EPAM. We have stabilized our small business segment and are improving our ability to help small businesses grow into our enterprise offering. We are streamlining our revenue operations capabilities to drive -to-market effectiveness and transparency on spend ROI. We are more tightly integrating big commerce, Pheonomics, and makeswift teams to improve cross-sell results. And looking ahead, we plan to make further improvements in the latter half of the year to bolster top-line growth and operational efficiency. I'll share more details on these efforts in coming quarters as we progress plans and achieve continued improvement and profitability. Looking toward the back half of the year, I am optimistic about Big Commerce's business momentum. We are making significant strides. We are winning deals with large, complex customers and earning strong accolades for the strength of our products. By significantly enhancing our -to-market operations, we are well positioned to re-accelerate revenue growth while continuing to improve profitability and cash flow. Thank you for your continued support and I look forward to updating you on our progress in the coming quarters. With that, I'll turn it over to Daniel.
spk14: Thanks, Brent, and thank you everyone for joining us today. During my prepared remarks, I'll cover our Q2 results, provide additional detail on our Q2 results, and offer updated guidance for Q3 and the full year 2024. In Q2, total revenue was just under $82 million, up 8% -over-year. Subscription revenue grew 10% -over-year to approximately $62 million, while Partner in Services revenue, or PSR, was up 4% -over-year to just over $20 million. Revenue in the Americas was up 9%, while EMEA revenue grew 7%, and APAC revenue was up 9% compared to the prior year. We remain committed to operating a profitable growth business. Our Q2 non-GAAP operating income was just under $2 million versus a loss of $3 million a year ago. These results represent a nearly 7-point -over-year improvement to non-GAAP operating margins, increasing from negative 5% in Q2 2023 to positive 2% in Q2 2024. As we did on the previous earnings call, I want to give you an update on where we stand with the three strategic priorities I called out at the beginning of the year. First, we made a commitment to drive efficient revenue growth. In Q1, we had sequential improvements in both gross and net retention from Q4 2023. We saw further sequential improvements in Q2 as well, consistent with our 2024 financial plan. We are seeing strong growth in B2B in particular. B2B ARR finished Q2 up 35% -over-year, and B2B GMV grew more than 50% -over-year. We see healthy retention rates in B2B as well, with gross retention tracking more than 20% higher than the remainder of the business. Our goal is to reaccelerate revenue growth, and we are optimistic about the trend in retention we are seeing so far in 2024 and are confident in the actions we are taking under Travis' leadership to build top-line momentum. Second, we committed to improving our operating leverage and deliver profitable growth. Q2 non-GAAP operating income exceeded the high end of our guidance expectations. In particular, we are laser-focused on improving -to-market efficiency. In Q2, we delivered our largest sequential growth in enterprise ARR in 12 months, and we did so with modestly improved -to-market spending efficiency. Like many other SaaS software companies, we've seen lower sales and marketing efficiency results in recent quarters, as platform investment spending has tightened across our industry. As Brent noted earlier, addressing this issue is one of our top priorities. Third, we committed to healthy cash flow generation and cash management by focusing on operational discipline. We continue to achieve success in transitioning our existing customer base from legacy -to-month contracts to more favorable payment terms for big commerce. As a result, we have seen a 25% increase in upfront payment terms -over-quarter in our enterprise accounts. This improvement has resulted in operating cash flow of just over $8 million for the first half of 2024, a $14 million improvement -over-year. Deferred revenues have also increased -over-year by $13 million, from $29 million to $42 million. That 46% -over-year increase in deferred revenue reflects a substantial improvement in the quality of our contracts. I'll now turn to our non-GAAP KPIs. We concluded Q2 with an ARR of approximately $346 million, up 4% -over-year. That represents sequential growth in ARR of nearly $6 million. Enterprise account ARR was approximately $254 million, up 7% -over-year. As of the end of Q2, enterprise accounts represent 73% of our total company ARR. Accounts using exclusively our essentials plans, or non-enterprise accounts, finished with ARR slightly over $92 million, down 3% -over-year as we lapped the small business price adjustments in the base period. At the end of Q2, we reported 5,961 enterprise accounts, up 32 accounts, or 1% -over-year. ARPA, or average revenue per account for enterprise accounts, was $42,576, up 7% -over-year. Before we move on to guidance, I would like to point out that our GAAP results include certain charges incurred in consideration of various alternatives associated with inbound inquiries and interest in big commerce. Following an assessment of these alternatives, we elected to move forward with the restructuring of our debt. As a part of that transaction, we have announced the expected repurchase of a large portion of our existing convertible notes due October 2026, and separately, the anticipated exchange of a portion of our existing convertible notes due October 2026, for new convertible notes due October 28, meaningfully decreasing our overall leverage and better optimizing maturities. The structure of the new debt instrument reflects both our investors' confidence in the upside of this business and our intent to minimize shareholder dilution. We intend to further streamline operations and investments in coming quarters with the goal of improving growth rates profitably and maximizing long-term shareholder value. I'll now shift to our outlook and guidance for the upcoming quarter and the full year. For Q3, we expect revenue in the range of $82 million to $84 million, implying a -over-year growth rate of 5% to 8%. For the full year 2024, we expect revenue between $330.2 million to $335.2 million, a -over-year growth rate of approximately 7% to 8%. For Q3, our non-GAAP operating income is between $500,000 and $1.5 million. For the full year, we expect non-GAAP operating income between $10.7 million and $13.7 million. In closing, I'm excited by our prospects and confident in our ability to seize the opportunities ahead of us. Our team's relentless dedication and our robust platform provide us with strong momentum to reach our strategic objectives. We remain unwavering in our commitment to drive innovation, deliver exceptional value to our customers, and achieve sustainable growth and profitability. Together, we are well prepared to navigate the challenges and opportunity that the future holds. With that, Brent and I are happy to take any of your questions. Operator?
spk07: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then 1, on your touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, then 2. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Raimo Lenchow with Barclays. Please go ahead.
spk09: Thank you. My first question was on the -to-market changes and the cadence, how long it will take. If you think about the steps that we're taking, how do you think that will translate into a pipeline but then also kind of deal closure and revenue? Just kind of get us on that journey a little bit in terms of the changes that were made, when does it show up in the top of the funnel and when does it show up in terms of closure rates. I know you can't give precise numbers but just give us a framework of how we should think about it. I might not be as good on the debt side. I had a few questions from investors. You're swapping a 2.25 convertible into a much higher interest rate vehicle. What kind of drove that desire to do it now versus waiting until rates are coming down? Many things.
spk10: Thanks Raimo. It's Brent. As a reminder to all on the call, Travis Hess, our new global president, started about three months ago in terms of the timing of when we might start seeing improvement in results as a result of changes being made in -to-market. I would say you're already seeing some of that in gross and net retention, changes that predated his arrival, a focus on that both in terms of internal metrics and operations. We've seen sequential improvements in gross and net retention, Q1 and Q2. We're optimistic that with more changes coming, we'll keep getting better in those departments. A second major area of change that we're going to see under Travis's leadership is our improvement in brand positioning in the market. I believe there's long been a disparity between the strength and quality of our platform, especially as recognized by third-party tech analysts and authorities who evaluate it, and the awareness and perception of that in the market. So it's incumbent on us to make changes in how we message and position big commerce to close that gap. One of the big closures of that messaging and positioning, frankly, went live yesterday. So if you go to our website, which is split between our enterprise offering and our Essentials offering, Essentials is for small business customers doing typically below a million dollars of GMV online, we rolled out the new website content last night. As long as you're in the 80% mainstream group and not the 20% control, you'll see the new messaging. I'm proud of what it says, and the design. We're positioned as the top-rated e-commerce platform for growing businesses. We backed that up, and I'm optimistic that that improved positioning as it gets viewed in the market will result in an improvement in adoption in small business, and I'm hopeful to see those metrics in the coming months and quarters. Meanwhile, we'll keep refining our enterprise messaging in the market. We're also refining our definition of ideal customer profile, targeting marketing spend against that. I suspect I may get other questions later that allow me to go deeper into those changes, but I would say in the coming quarters, he had to come in first and get on board, visit the team globally, but the changes that we know we can make across the board and go to market are substantial, and I couldn't be more bullish that the changes will have an impact and that we are doing something that a lot of others in e-commerce are not doing. We are bringing in true industry veterans, people whose career are built in retail and e-commerce, people who know the competition and all the ways of that competition over time, and who have conviction at established parts in their careers that big commerce truly does have the best enterprise offering in the world and who are eager to take that to market, evangelize it, and see us become the established leader in enterprise e-commerce globally. Travis, Tom, Armstrong, and I'm sure more to come are all part of that, and in time, we're going to see the closure between our market adoption and growth and the quality of our platform and very confident. Daniel?
spk14: Yeah, and then I'll take the question on the debt, Rymoh, thank you for posing that. I think as we approached the restructuring of the debt, there were really three objectives that we wanted to accomplish. Number one, we wanted to lower our overall leverage. Number two, we wanted to space out maturities well in advance of the 2026 notes coming due. We wanted to, in so doing, reduce our net debt, and finally, we wanted to do so in a way that kind of minimized market execution risk and potential dilution to shareholders. We feel really we did a good job on the balance and how we did that. From the point of view of the yield, where we landed net of the strike price on the new note is very much from a cost of capital point of view in line with what a lot of new market issuances are paying once you factor in the cost of a caller effectively in order to get the strike price where we negotiated in this deal. We think it's a competitive market interest rate. It does so in a way that minimized risk, and it got way ahead of where we were from maturity basis and sent a signal that we're very confident in the long-term prospects here and also that this also reflects a lot of the improvements we're seeing in cash flow such that we feel that we can manage the increased interest costs that come along with that.
spk09: Okay, perfect. Thank
spk06: you.
spk07: The next question comes from Ken Wong with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.
spk05: Fantastic. Thank you for taking my call. Brent, I think I'll take you up on your offer to dig in a little more. I couldn't help but notice that B2B was a particularly strong segment, and when you pair that with the fact that you guys are looking to refine your ideal customer profile, would you characterize that B2B segment as one of the areas that you guys plan to lean in?
spk10: 100%. I would emphasize that B2B is itself not a single category or vertical, obviously. It is a very wide range of use cases. It includes manufacturers selling to their business customers, wholesalers, distributors, professional services firms, and of course B2C companies or brands also selling to their wholesale buyers. What I would emphasize is that BigCommerce is very much like Magento was back in the day. We are a broad-ranging B2B platform. We have the functionality to serve each of those four segments and use cases and do that with a user experience in our buyer portal that we believe is the most attractive, usable, and frankly innovative in the world of B2B that is out there because a lot of our competition is quite old and dated, and we have an extremely fresh and modular and modifiable approach, especially with that buyer portal which you can now basically open source modify yourself. So B2B is a very big deal for us, and maybe somebody else will ask me a question about the B2C ideal customer profile later, but I want to finish on something that's really fun for us. With the Olympics going on right now in Paris, there is in essence an Olympics every year in B2B e-commerce platforms. Andy Horne paradigm goes through all B2B platforms and has what he calls a mid-market combine and an enterprise combine where he awards gold, silver, and bronze medals to the B2B platforms of the world. What was fun for us as a competitor in that each year for the mid-market combine, we won gold medals in eight out of 12 categories, three silvers, one bronze. So we won medals in every category, we had the most number of golds overall and the highest aggregate count. That's basically in sum. Big commerce won the Olympics by the best expert out there evaluating mid-market platforms. We were tied for fourth in the enterprise one, but only a couple points away from second place, and we basically at this point in time have gone from not even having a full-featured B2B platform five years ago to one that is consistently being rated the best in the world for mid-market businesses and increasingly one that is among the very, very best for enterprise. So enormous opportunity in B2B. There is as well in B2C, but I'll save that for maybe another question.
spk05: Fantastic. Appreciate the context. Daniel, you kind of alluded to getting inbound inquiries earlier. Can you perhaps provide a little more color on those conversations and what led to the decision to remain an independent entity?
spk14: Yeah, I appreciate the question. We recognize that there are some rumors that were circulating on this topic as there will be from time to time. Obviously, there are some limits to how much we can comment on this, but I'd like to provide at least a little extra detail for you on this. As we've stated in the prepared remarks, we received inbound interest in the company and evaluated those options. This is a great company with a lot of upside. We see that upside as does the board, our investors, and our stakeholders. Our boards focus on maximizing shareholder value and we're confident that our operating plans will drive efficient revenue growth and meet the potential of the business.
spk06: Okay, perfect. Thanks a lot.
spk07: The next question comes from Koji Keda with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
spk02: Hey guys, thanks for taking the questions. In the prepared remarks, Brent, you talked about RealReal as one of your big customer wins. I was wondering if you could walk us through that sales cycle and implementation process. It is such a big marketplace and it does seem to imply a very traditional sales cycle and pretty complex implementation. I'm curious to hear a little bit more on how you were able to win that deal.
spk10: Yeah, you're correct. As background, the RealReal is the world's largest marketplace for authenticated luxury goods, primarily sold on consignment. I love it. My wife loves it. They do more than, I think, about a billion and a half in online GMD in 2023. So it's an enormous site. The RealReal picked us, I don't know how many quarters ago, but it was indeed a typical large enterprise lengthy sales cycle. In terms of implementation, what we're observing in the market is that there are two approaches to implementation. There's a rip and replace approach and then there is a componentized, let me bring in certain components now, make them work with my existing legacy tech. I'll swap out some and then I'll gradually migrate over time. The RealReal chose the latter approach and so as said in the press release, they're using BigCommerce for checkout and cart with the intention of bringing more in over time. But the observation I would make, and this is a surprise to many perhaps, we're seeing in the market rip and replace oftentimes go far faster than incremental components at a time. I would just highlight the Bells experience where a lot of people in the industry should pay attention to this. Bells of Florida, 650 plus stores across multiple brands had been on one of the most legacy of legacy platforms, IBM, WebSphere, now HCL, and they did a rip and replace, got off their legacy stack and onto a very modern stack with BigCommerce and Versel and modern CMS in three months. Now who would have thought that was possible? It actually sort of breaks the record. We've had other really great store-based retailers like Francesca's and White's stuff in the UK do rip and replaces in eight months or less, but to do it in three months is really extraordinary. So I go through this extended explanation simply to say that the real, real experience is one model and one we're really proud of being so flexible that we can be brought in to start just as checkout and cart with more things to come later. But we can also do radical transformation in a very short time period where all of a sudden a business who had been strangled by their legacy tech is now on the most modern of platforms with a cost structure that has been slashed by sometimes 70-80 percent overall and do that in record time. And we have multiple store-based retailers who have pulled that off in the last year, year and a half. And I hope the industry takes notice because there's still a lot of phenomenally big important businesses that are on legacy tech who should realize they can get off that quickly and onto the very best enterprise platform with much better user experience, conversion and cost structure than ever before.
spk02: Got it. Super clear, Brent. Thank you for that. Wanted to ask one follow-up here. When we look at big commerce, there's many different growth vectors to think about within big commerce, but I did want to ask you quite from a simple perspective, maybe thinking about the business, enterprise, SMB and then PSR revenue, how would you stack rank those categories as growth drivers that you feel as maybe the strongest contributors to growth over the next 12 months? Thanks, guys.
spk10: Well, I'm actually really optimistic about what we can do with small business now that we have the new messaging and positioning out on our website that I just mentioned. But unquestionably, enterprise is our giant area of competitive advantage and growth. I believe, especially with Travis's leadership, that we can very quickly establish big commerce as the best, most modern enterprise platform in the world, in essence, the successor to the legacy tech of the past, whether it was custom or the software giants, and that is what will really drive our growth in the years ahead. We've been saying that for some time, but I would argue that our messaging, positioning, awareness and -to-market hasn't been fully up to the potential of the business. Quite frankly, it has taken us time to complete the enterprise offering in a way that can now replace the legacy tech stacks and do it in record time as the Bell's example showcases. So, it's really now that we have emerged as a full, complete, competitive enterprise solution that can do things nobody else can. I think that's going to be our driver in the years ahead. Thank you. Thank you so much, Brent.
spk07: The next question comes from David Hines with KanaCord. Please go ahead.
spk03: Hey, good morning, guys. Brent, I wanted to ask about execution in EMEA, realizing it's still a relatively small part of the business, but it did seem like that was a particular bright spot in 23. Growth has stalled a bit there over the last couple of quarters. Can you just talk about what's happening there and how you're positioned in that market?
spk10: Yeah, there are two very specific things that give me a lot of optimism and confidence going forward. The one that's outside of our control is just the state of the European economy, and I think as people know, it has not been growing as quickly as the American economy. That'll turn around inevitably. Businesses, even if they in the short term, are prioritizing profit and expenditure minimization, they can't do that forever, right? And with every passing quarter that the European businesses maybe put off migrations, you're building a backlog, and eventually there's going to be that need to catch up, do the migrations, do the modernizations and the transformations, and we're starting to see that demand come back in into the early stages of our pipeline. That gives us confidence. The thing within our control, and I would say it's partly to explain why the European growth rate came down and is going to come back up, and that is the completion of our multi-geographic selling capabilities. When we rolled out Multi-Storefront a couple years ago, it was feature complete for companies with multiple brands, and it was feature complete for companies selling, let's call it B2C plus B2B. It was not yet feature complete for the most extreme complexities of, with each storefront, I want a different country, different language, different payment provider, different shipping provider, a changed checkout, the language changes, you know, you get the complex use case of some countries have tax included in pricing and others excluded. This is a, you know, sort of a follow-on set of functionality that has taken us a couple of years, frankly, to build out and complete, and that functionality now for many of the use cases is fully live and with others being implemented this year. Having that complete multi-geo functionality is essential for Europe where established businesses are obviously selling across lots of languages, countries with different payment preferences, currencies, etc. And now that we have that complete, we are really ready to rock in Europe and have a strong competitive advantage in these areas against other SMB-like platforms who don't have multi-storefront and multi-geo capabilities. So, you know, my own team would tell you there's a primary explanation for gross new sales having stalled as we waited for this functionality and now that the functionality is there, there's a lot of confidence that we can take that to market in Europe and very much get our growth rates back up to very high levels as they were a few years ago.
spk03: Yep, okay, very clear. A follow-up for you, Daniel, which falls on Ken's question around B2B. Obviously, the GMB growth there was pretty impressive. From a PSR perspective, is there any difference in how you're positioned to monetize B2C versus B2B GMB?
spk14: Slightly. We have obviously fewer credit card transactions on B2B than there are on the B2C side, which is a little bit different on the PSR side, but the PSR is also healthy on B2B and we're also building out and rounding out our offering of payment solutions, in particular, on B2B such that as we continue to grow in B2B, I feel confident that we're going to be able to maintain and potentially even improve our overall take rates that we're seeing in PSR. Perfect. Thank you, guys.
spk07: The next question comes from Josh Baer with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
spk08: Great, thanks. This is Katie Kieser on for Josh Baer this morning. You spoke to leveraging AI to enhance customer growth. It would be helpful to get a sense of how your AI capabilities are differentiated relative to your e-commerce peers. And then what might be or is becoming more table stakes in the industry relative to where you may have a competitive advantage? Thank you.
spk10: Yeah, I boldly assert we have the most scaled and most impactful AI in the entire world of e-commerce and it is a core of what makes our subsidiary Phaetonomics such a large and successful business. In a nutshell, Phaetonomics is the world's largest enterprise platform for helping businesses not just sync but optimize their catalog feeds into the leading advertising channels and marketplace channels. So ad channels like Google and Microsoft Search, the major social networks, the major affiliate networks, the major display ad networks, and then marketplaces like Amazon, Walmart, Target, and the other retailer marketplace businesses. AI is the core differentiator of what Phaetonomics does because it is used to take a merchant's catalog, which on average may be only be a 60% optimization match for Google schema and get that to very close to 100% and then humans do the remaining work. On average, their customers who are the biggest brands in the world like Patagonia just announced will see a 20% lift as a result in sales through the channels used like Google and then they'll add more channels. And so what other AI in the world is delivering 20% sales lift through the very biggest advertising and marketplace channels? There's not anything out there, I don't believe. So we are a very much leader in AI there. And then very briefly in terms of core platform capabilities, we keep emphasizing things that I think matter a lot to merchants, including reducing cost such as through the big AI copywriter, lifting sales on the website where we have product recommendations powered by Google AI, that product is out, and frankly our own customer service, our customers love the fact that they have the option of typing into chat questions and 25% of the time we're using AI going through our knowledge base and answering those questions perfectly the first time in a way that the customer never has to talk to one of our live reps on the phone because they get a perfect answer using AI. We have a very open approach, our ecosystem is also developing AI products that go into our e-commerce marketplace, we're partnering with the major AI creators and MLMs. So very much innovating in the world of AI, but I go back and emphasize that what Fetonomics does is at scale, more powerful, more beneficial to merchant growth than any other platform's AI.
spk08: That's super helpful, thank you. Also wanted to just quickly drill in on the consumer spending and macro backdrop, you know, if any notable trends emerge in the quarter and what if any assumptions from a macro or consumer spending perspective underpin that go forward outlook would be helpful. Thank you.
spk14: Yeah, I'll take that one. With respect to consumer spending, we use the word resilient in the remarks to describe what we're seeing on the consumer spend side. Use the term deliberately, like it's not demonstrably improving versus where it's been in terms of prior quarters, but we're not seeing it really eroding or getting significantly worse. That said, we look at the same kind of macroeconomic details that everybody else does and what we're seeing in retail and restaurants and other. I think largely what we've seen so far this year has been pretty in line though with what we planned and expected going into the year. So perhaps some of the reasons why we are a little bit more optimistic in describing this is perhaps because we're more conservative going into the year maybe than others were. But overall I'd say it's been pretty healthy. We're still taking a cautious optimism point of view towards the holiday period and we're reflecting that caution in the guidance clearly. We want to be careful with that. But overall I'd say it's been still fairly healthy.
spk10: I'd add at a macro level, US Department of Commerce and Census Bureau have been reporting e-commerce consumer growth rates in the US in the single digits since late 2021. That continued to be the case in Q1. We get Q2 reported later this month. Is it great to have single digit e-commerce growth rates when before the pandemic they were always double digits? No, it's not. I mean it'd be delightful to have double digit growth rates and consumer spend again online but that's just not the world we've been in for the last three years. And frankly I don't necessarily see something that's going to change that going forward.
spk06: Makes sense. Thank you.
spk07: The next question comes from Mark Murphy with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
spk05: Oh thank you so much. So Brent you did mention a number of wins and go live. I'm curious which e-commerce platforms you see customers are most commonly migrating away from at this juncture. In other words how often is it Magento which I think you mentioned, how often is it Shopify, IBM, HCL I think you mentioned as well, you know WooCommerce and others. Which of those platforms are feeling you know relatively more legacy and vulnerable out there? Then I've got a quick follow up.
spk10: Well it depends whether you're talking total count which has lots of SMBs in it or at the upper end. I would say at the upper end Custom and Magento followed by Shopify have been the biggest migrations over time. At the SMB level it's a wide range. You know it's WooCommerce, it's Shopify, it's Magento as well. There aren't that many companies out there on the big legacy stack like IBM and Oracle, SAP or Custom but boy do they drive a lot of online GMB. And when we win them they really move the needle in terms of reputation, spend, etc. And I just love examples like you know the ones I've been giving because the way I characterize the industry is the folks who have been implementing legacy tech for the last five years, it's been a little bit paralyzed. The folks who implemented legacy tech 15 years ago, Custom are one of these platforms, know and want to get off it but they've been waiting for a modern enterprise platform to show them that they can and that they're betting on the right company for the next 15 years. A modern SaaS platform hadn't been stepping up and really doing that for the most complex use cases. I mean yeah we in Shopify have been doing it for years for less complex use cases with branded manufacturers but the most complex use cases, multi-brand, multi-category online retailers like the RealReal or store-based retailers like Bells, they've been waiting for modern SaaS enterprise platform to say hey we can do that, look at these success examples and that's what we're doing now and that's where I see there being so much upside to our business model going forward.
spk05: Okay thank you and then for Daniel, you know I see the uptick that you mentioned in EnterpriseNet New ARR, it's nice to see. At the same time the number of enterprise customers added, it seems like it's pretty severely down to about 32 and I'm trying to remember if did you re-index, did you flush out customers at the bottom of that tier or is that is that just shifting towards the larger customer lamp and then going back to kind of tying in with that and to the prior question, there's just so many large consumer-oriented companies that are why do you think that your B2C customers would show more resilience than that or why do you think they'd be able to avoid a tougher part of the business cycle where the consumer often does start to roll over 18-24 months after a Fed hiking cycle?
spk14: To let me take the last question first and then I'll get back to the the net customer ads. I think on the consumer side again just to reinforce that we're not seeing the type of growth rates and consumer spending that we're used to seeing in e-commerce. We're not saying that we're not seeing the effects. What we're saying is that what we are seeing is in line with what we expected. I think perhaps we may have, I mean we have really really good vertical and sector diversity in our industry which may help but overall I think that though we are not seeing as much growth as we would like to see in that area, overall we think it's been relatively healthy but we're taking a cautious outlook because we're seeing the same macroeconomic data that you're referring to and we're basing our guidance and building our plans according to that kind of commensurate level of conservatism. With respect to net ads, part of it is that we're trending towards larger customers and we're trending towards healthier contracts. I mean if you look at what we're seeing in deferred revenue and also in RPO as well, I mean deferred revenue is up 46 percent year over year, RPO is up 37 percent year over year. I mean we're really really putting a lot of energy and focus not just in getting higher in mid-market and you know enterprise customers but making those contracts healthier and better for shareholders than they have been before. We are seeing really good results in improving trends in gross and net retention. The area that we're struggling a little bit is what we're seeing in new ads which is where you're seeing that in terms of the net customer ads. We want to see better pipeline growth than what we've seen over the course of the last few quarters. We want to do that with better efficacy and efficiency in the dollars that we're putting at work on the -to-market side as well. So I mean I'd say we're where we wanted to be for gross and net retention or where we want to be from a contract quality point of view but to Brent's point he was discussing it's a bit of a tough environment from a migration point of view and that's kind of impairing a little bit of the net new ads on the new logo side of things.
spk05: Makes sense, thank you so much.
spk07: Yeah. The next question comes from Samad Samana with Jefferies, please go ahead.
spk04: Hey guys this is Jeremy on first, thanks for taking my questions. I guess first how can we think about enterprise as a percentage of a mix? Is there any change to the timeline to get to 80%?
spk14: I'll take that one. I think that it's mixed a little less quickly towards enterprise than where we probably would have anticipated a couple of years ago for two reasons. One, the small business portion of the business is stabilizing and doing a little better than what we expected. We thought that we would be able to stabilize that and start turning it back around into growth. I think it's done that a little bit sooner than we expected, that's part one. Part two I think the trend in the mid-market and enterprise is we're seeing some of the challenges in market that we've discussed already about new customer ads and migrations. It's a little bit of a tough environment that has perhaps slowed that trend up. But when we look at the improvements we're seeing in B2B in particular, where we think the success that we're seeing with some of the merchant migrations and customer migrations we've been describing, we're really confident that we're still going to continue to mix the business more and more towards enterprise accounts. It just maybe is going a little bit slower by a couple quarters than what we anticipated, but the long-term trend is the same.
spk04: Gotcha, that's a useful color. And then maybe a follow-up on B2B, can you help contextualize or provide any data on what percent of the total this accounts for, whether that's on ARR or GMB? And then if not, maybe how big do you think the segment can get?
spk14: Yeah, I mean I would say we think over time that B2B can and likely will become a greater percentage of the overall mix for several reasons which Brent has already discussed. In terms of overall mix of the business, we haven't disclosed what the exact percentages are. What I can say is that B2B has been a disproportionate grower as a portion of our total mix for probably the last two to three years, and we do anticipate that continuing. It's a really, really healthy part of the business, not just in the growth trends, but also in the underlying health. Like as we mentioned in the prepared remarks, what we see in terms of retention rates on those customers tends to also be 20% better than what we see in the remainder of the business. And that's with the ability to continue to maintain the type of take rates that we see over time in PSR. So when we look at the underlying economics and the trends and the product differentiation, it's a clear winner for us and it's going to be an area we continue to invest.
spk07: The next question comes from Brian Peterson with Raymond James. Please go ahead.
spk12: Oh, hi, gentlemen. Thanks for taking the question. So, Brent, I'll take you up on your offer on the ideal B2C customer. What does that look like? As you see the opportunity of other platforms, what does that look like in terms of what might migrate over to big commerce?
spk10: Yeah, let me talk about the evolution in our business. When we started 15 years ago, we were a small business platform built for startups and small businesses. So think of an ICP back then of a digitally native -to-consumer business or a very small branded manufacturer. When I came in in 2015 and we started moving up market, we expanded our ICP into real true branded manufacturers, businesses that, you know, by definition are omni-channel because they sell through third-party distribution. They're online and offline in terms of sales. That's a more complex customer. And I would say up until the last couple of years, that has been our sweet spot. The point to emphasize for the market, though, is by my analysis, if you look at the top thousand B2C brands and retailers in the US, those two segments combined account for less than 20% of all GMB online. The other 80% are in the two most complex use cases of multi-brand online retailers and store-based retailers. Far more complex and businesses that, though we had examples of them, let's call it five, 10 years ago, would not have been our sweet spot. Today, with examples like the RealReal Soul Trader and Sports Shoes, all of which we just announced, those are examples of multi-brand, predominantly online retailers at very, very, very large scale and complexity. And I just gave you three great examples from Europe and the US that you can draw a line through. And then the example of store-based retailers like Bells, like Andertons, which is a music leader in the UK, two examples in this earnings release that you can draw a line through for store-based retail. This is where more than 80% of online GMB is located. And historically, these were not the primary areas of growth for us. But because our platform has advanced and matured so significantly, we can now displace the custom platforms and legacy platforms that used to power the biggest online retailers in the world. So what I'm proud to say is, in terms of ideal customer profile, there are now big subsets of each of those two areas that we're winning. And I think this last quarter has great examples of both.
spk12: That's great color. And as you kind of target that opportunity, I'm curious, you mentioned some comments before on some customers buying components versus a full rip and replace. Has the mix of that changed relative to your expectations? And how do you see that balance of purchasing playing out versus components versus full rip and replace as you look ahead? Thanks, guys.
spk10: The vast majority of the time, companies are going to rip and replace rather than do components. Doing components is harder because you're mixing and matching and it takes longer. That's our experience. It doesn't always play out that way. But mostly, we think it'll be rip and replace.
spk06: Thanks,
spk07: Brent. Again, if you have a question, please press star, then one. The next question comes from Gabriela Borges with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
spk01: Hi, this is Thrupa Maran for Gabriela. Thanks for taking my question. We noticed some examples of headless in the press release and prepared remarks. How is the adoption of headless commerce tracking in the industry? And is this a catalyst for new customers to evaluate big commerce? Thank you.
spk10: Yes, we see composable gaining traction in North America relative to prior years. We see it through the Mach Alliance. We see it in the industry. And our new model reference architecture catalyst based on Next.js and React and our market leading Next.js visual editor, Makeswift, are really, in our opinion, the best offering in the market. Bells in particular is a company who implemented catalysts. So you want a perfect example of just how successful you can be implementing composable in record time. That's what Bells did. They used catalysts, Next.js and React. So we're very excited about the offering we have in market. We'll be showcasing it at Big Summit later this month in Austin. And we'll be incorporating it into our core offering ever more so that going forward, there won't actually be on big commerce a choice between composable or not composable. We'll be composable out of the box. Thanks for the question.
spk01: Got it. That's helpful. Thank you so much.
spk07: The next question comes from Chris with UBS. Please go ahead.
spk11: Great. Thanks for taking the question. Brent, you called out further efficiencies in the back half of the year in your prepared remarks. I guess, how should we be thinking about the impact of those further efficiencies on more of the -to-market side versus really the broader big commerce business? I have a follow-up after that.
spk14: Thanks. Yeah, this is Daniel. I'll take that one. In particular, we're focused on -to-market efficiency and by that, not just the absolute dollars, but the efficiency of the dollars and also the efficacy of the results that we're getting out of the money that we're spending. So we talked about this in the prepared remarks. We're really, really laser-focused, not just on the growth rate, but the efficiency of how we're getting to that growth rate. Lots of companies similar to us have seen some declines in what they're getting from a -to-market efficiency point of view. We are laser-focused on re-accelerating top-line growth and doing it in a way that's more efficient with the way that we are investing our operating dollars. So I would characterize in what we're doing in -to-market, not to overuse sports analogies, but we're probably third inning. We've started that process, but there's a lot we have left to do. As we get through the back half of the year, we're going to continue to build upon the foundation that we've already started and we're going to continue to do that until we get to re-accelerated top-line and better efficiency in this, and that's driving that.
spk11: Got it. That's helpful. Then just maybe one on big AI copywriter and the choice of Google and Gemini model. Could you just talk about what drove that choice to go with Google versus other providers at this point?
spk10: Well, even before the overnight boom in AI popularity starting late, I guess, 2022, Google had been working on AI models and prioritizing e-commerce, in particular, as an application area. So we've been working with them on AI and product recommendations for longer than the recent boom in MLM. They've just been a natural partner of ours and a great partner of ours, but by all means, we are not exclusive to any one model, either we or customers or our agency and tech partners, because we're open, can use any models and it's up to the choice of us or customers and partners which to employ and the collaboration of the actual MLM developers. But I'd praise Google for leaning into e-commerce use cases and applications. We've done hackathons with them and our ecosystem. They've just been fantastic to work with. The final thing I would note is that unlike some of our competitors who rely primarily on proprietary model exclusive to their firms that they've branded or are black boxes on their models, what's different about big commerce is with the exception of Pheonomics where we don't have and rely on proprietary models and we do tend to be open and transparent about what we're working on and what others are working on. So that's a differentiated approach that I think gets the from all the innovation happening in AI model development. Got it. Very helpful.
spk11: Thank you,
spk07: Beth. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Brent Belm, CEO and Chairman for any closing remarks.
spk10: Thanks everybody for dialing in. In summary, I would say the highlight of the last quarter is the operating cash flow delivery which is up very, very substantially over prior years and shows that we are really gaining momentum as a profitable cash flow generating business. I'm also proud of the continued sequential improvements in growth and net retention. The big opportunity for us is to be growing gross new sales and do that efficiently. And as I've described, I'm very optimistic at our prospects for doing that thanks to the changes we're making under Travis's leadership and the big segments of the market, both B2C and B2B, that I think we have emerged to be able to serve distinctively well. So hopefully more good news to come in the following quarters and we look forward to talking to you again then.
spk06: The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.
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