10/31/2024

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Conference Operator
Operator

At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Credit Acceptance Chief Financial Officer, Jay Martin.

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Ken Booth
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you. Good morning and welcome to the Credit Acceptance Corporation third quarter 2024 earnings call. As you read our news release posted on the investor relations section of our website at ir.creditacceptance.com, and as you listen to this conference call, please recognize that both contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities law. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control and which could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. These risks and uncertainties include those spelled out in the cautionary statement regarding forward-looking information included in the news release. Consider all forward-looking statements in light of those and other risks and uncertainties. Additionally, I should mention that to comply with the SEC's Regulation G, please refer to the financial results section of our news release, which provides tables showing how non-GAAP measures reconcile the GAAP measures. At this time, I will turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Ken Booth, to discuss the third quarter results. Thanks, Jay. Overall, we had another mixed quarter as it relates to collections and originations, two key drivers of our business. Our 2022 vintage continued to underperform our expectations, and 2021, 2023, and 2024 also declined. Overall, a modest decline of 0.6% for $62.8 million in forecasted net cash flows. As we have previously communicated, historically our models have been very good at predicting loan performance in aggregate, but our models work best during less volatile times. The pandemic and its ripple effects created volatile conditions, federal stimulus, enhanced unemployment benefits, and supply chain disruptions like the vehicle shortages, inflation, etc., all of which impacted competitive conditions. We've had larger-than-average forecast misses, both high and low, during this volatile period. But because we understand forecasting and collection rates is challenging, our business model is designed to produce acceptable returns on the aggregate, even if loan performance is less than forecast. Despite the decline in forecasted collections this quarter, we believe we will continue to produce substantial economic profit per share in the future. Even our worst vintage, 2022, is still forecasted to produce economic profit. As I've explained in the past, we are less reactive to changes in competitive and economic cycles than others in the industry because we take a long deal in the industry. We price to maximize economic profit over the long term, and seek the best position in the company if access to capital becomes limited. Ultimately, we are happy with the discipline to maintain underwriting standards during the easy money times of 2021 and especially 2022. While our market share was lower during those years, we believe this was a better position to take advantage of more favorable market conditions today. During the quarter, we experienced strong growth and had our highest Q3 unit and dollar buying ever, growing our loan unit and dollar volume by 17.7% and 12.2% respectively. This is our ninth quarter in a row with double-digit unit volume growth. Our loan portfolio is now at a new record high of $8.9 billion on an adjusted basis, up 18.6% from Q3 2023. Our market share in our core segment was 6.2%, as of August 31st, 2024. Our growth did slow during the quarter, likely impacted by our Q2 forecast changes that resulted in lower advance rates during Q3. Beyond these two key drivers, we continued making progress during the quarter towards our mission of creating intrinsic value and positively changing the lives of our five key constituents, dealers, consumers, team members, investors, in the communities we operate in. We do this by providing a valuable product that enables dealers to sell to consumers regardless of their credit history. This allows dealers to make incremental sales with roughly 55% of adults with other than prime credit. For these adults, it enables them to obtain a vehicle to get to their jobs, take their kids to school, et cetera. It also gives them the opportunity to improve or build their credit. We recognize that it has been a challenging time for our consumers impacted by recent hurricanes. As we have for many years, we are working with these consumers, including suspending some of our collection efforts, to allow these customers to prioritize their safety and most urgent needs. During the quarter, we financed 95,670 contracts for our dealers and consumers. We collected $1.3 billion overall and paid $71 million in portfolio profit to our dealers. We added 1,038 new dealers for the quarter and now have our largest number of active dealers ever for our third quarter with 10,678 dealers. From an initiative perspective, we are committed to improvement through our go-to-market approach aimed at providing product innovation and support to our dealers faster and more effectively than ever before. This requires teamwork, attention to detail, and an iterative process that attempts to make improvement every step of the way. This is a work in progress, but we are getting better. We are also continued investing in our technology team. We've improved our team's capabilities and are focused on modernizing both our key technology architecture and how our teams perform work, with the goal of increasing the speed at which we enhance our product for dealers and consumers. During the quarter, we received four awards from Fortune, USA Today, and People Magazine, recognizing us as a great place to work. We continue to focus on making our amazing workplace even better. We support our team members in making a difference to what makes a difference to them. In connection with their efforts, we contributed to organizations such as 42 Strong, American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, Atlanta Area School District, Children's Hospital of Michigan, and Pure Heart Foundation. Now, Jay Martin and I will take your questions along with Doug Busk, our Chief Treasury Officer, Jay Brinkley, our Senior Vice President and Treasurer, and Jeff Sutar, our Vice President and Assistant Treasurer.

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Conference Operator
Operator

If you'd like to ask a question at this time, please press star 1-1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 1-1 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Moshe Orenbook with TD Cowan.

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Moshe Orenbook
Analyst, TD Cowen

Great, thanks. I appreciate the comment that you're confident that the returns are higher than your hurdle rates, but I guess maybe could you just spend a little more time on that idea because they're all based upon estimates and the estimates have been revised down for six quarters. I mean, the real question is, how do you know, and what is it – are we going to be having the same conversation 90 days from now? How should we think about that?

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Ken Booth
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so our estimates in our third quarter release represent our best estimates of how we believe these loans are going to perform in the future. That considers the underperformance we've seen today on post-pandemic vintages to your Point about what do we expect to see in the future? I would say our forecasting models perform faster in relatively stable economic periods, whether it's concept or less accurate during periods of volatility like we've experienced since the pandemic. Let's say biggest declines we saw in the quarter related to the 21 to 22 cohorts. Tough to say precisely why these have continued to underperform, but we know there are likely multiple contributing factors, including that these loans were originated during a very competitive period, which generally hurts loan performance. Consumers purchased vehicles at peak valuations. Vehicle prices subsequently declined, and then the impact of inflation. We understand that others in our industry have experienced similar or worse performance on these cohorts. So we don't believe this trend is unique to credit acceptance. As it relates to the 21 and 22 business, as we point out, that business is more seasoned. We've collected 81% of what we ultimately expect to collect on the 21 business, 61% of what we ultimately expect to collect on the 22 business. Going forward, those cohorts are going to have less of an impact on our financial results. It's going to have more of an impact on our financials based on how our 23 and 24 loans perform, because we wrote more business in those years, and those loans are also seasoned, and then as we get into next year, it'll be more weighted to what we write in 25.

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Moshe Orenbook
Analyst, TD Cowen

Right. I guess I would just maybe tack on to that the idea that it isn't so much about volatility, it's about different factors affecting what has driven consumer behavior in this cycle versus previous cycles, and I guess It just pushes me to this question of, is it an estimation problem or is it an actual underwriting problem? Have you thought about changing the way you actually underwrite these loans?

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Ken Booth
Chief Executive Officer

Let's say our forecast, we continue to consider recent performance. So as we're originating new loans, we've considered the underperformance that we've seen in these 21 and 22 loans. So we've adjusted and lowered our performance initial estimates on those future loans to consider that. So we believe we are considering the underperformance there. And as I mentioned before, we don't believe this is a problem unique to credit acceptance. We believe we're seeing this across the industry.

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Moshe Orenbook
Analyst, TD Cowen

Right, right, okay.

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Ken Booth
Chief Executive Officer

That's accordingly moving forward.

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Moshe Orenbook
Analyst, TD Cowen

All right, and then just last one for me. You didn't buy back any stock in the third quarter or in October to date from the filing of the Q, it looks like. Can you just talk a little bit about capital? It looks like loan growth is strong, but decelerated a little. So can you just talk about that?

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Jay Martin
Chief Financial Officer

Sure. As we've said many times over the years, our first priority is to make sure we have the capital that we need to fund the business. If we feel we have excess capital, then we'll take a look at the stock price. And if we think we can buy it for less than intrinsic value, we'll return capital to shareholders. For most of Q3, we had higher outstanding balances on our revolving credit facilities than we customarily do. Now that situation was remedied at the very end of September when we did a relatively large ABS deal. So given the fact we had more revolver usage and the leverage at the end of Q3 is at the high end of the historical range, And given uncertainties about collection performance and capital market conditions in light of the election, we took a bit more of a conservative approach. As you know, we've repurchased a significant number of shares over a long period of time, over 30 million shares since the late 90s. But we don't do it consistently. Some periods we buy back a lot. Some periods we buy back very little. So I don't think that you can take a look at one quarter and assume that's the basis for a new trend line. Got it. Thanks very much.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Our next question comes from the line of John Hecht with Jefferies.

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John Hecht
Analyst, Jefferies

Morning, guys. Thanks.

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John Hecht
Analyst, Jefferies

Hello?

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John Hecht
Analyst, Jefferies

John, you may have muted your line.

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Operator

Our next question will come from... We have a question from the line of John Rowan with Janie Montgomery Scott.

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John Rowan
Analyst, Janney Montgomery Scott

Good morning. I just want to drill down a little bit into what lower consumer prepayments means. We've asked on the call before is that related to lower repossession, lower wholesales after repossession, but I guess drill down a little bit. What is it? Are you not getting the judgments you need when you go and you sue someone for a deficiency? Is it just consumers not paying on older debts that are in the tails, or has there been just a wholesale change in the number of consumers who are defaulting on loans? I'm just trying to get a better understanding of what that fairly generic term means.

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Ken Booth
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, it's primarily referring to consumers refinancing their loans and moving on to either traditional forms of financing or purchasing a new car. In periods where there's limited availability of credit to consumers, we tend to see lower levels of prepayments, and that's what we're currently seeing now.

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John Rowan
Analyst, Janney Montgomery Scott

Okay. But that's driving a lot of forecast revisions. But, I mean, look, I've covered the company for a long time. There have been periods in which there's been – absolutely no credit availability to consumers, even much worse than right now. How does that compare historically to those periods?

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Ken Booth
Chief Executive Officer

I would say we're near historical lows there currently. We have seen similar low periods, but this is one of the lower periods that we've seen. Our forecast uses more of a historical average of what we've seen with prepayments. We've We've seen that come down, which pushes our cash flows out into the future, which lowers the yield that we'll realize on the loans. Okay. All right.

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John Rowan
Analyst, Janney Montgomery Scott

Thank you.

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Jay Martin
Chief Financial Officer

I would just add that, you know, forecasting the timing of cash flows is challenging since it's dependent on the competitive environment, and no one can really, you know, forecast how the competitive environment is going to behave in the future. So it is challenging. You know, I think we take our, you know, best crack at it, but it's tough.

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John Rowan
Analyst, Janney Montgomery Scott

Actually, let me ask another question. So if people aren't refinancing their cars, why is that? Is that a function of used car prices that they're sitting on a negative equity position and they don't want to refinance the car and owe some money? Or what is driving that lower level of refinancing activity?

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Ken Booth
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think that certainly could be a factor. And I think just the general availability of credit to the consumer is also a factor. But I think the factors you mentioned are contributing factors.

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John Hecht
Analyst, Jefferies

All right. Thank you. Our next question comes from John Hecht with Jefferies.

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John Hecht
Analyst, Jefferies

Morning, guys. Apologize for the technical issue earlier. I just kind of follow on questions for both the preceding questions. I know this cycle is unique, but in historical cycles where your capital was scarce and maybe there was disruption in the environment, those tend to be favorable environments for you. As an example, think about post the great financial crisis. This one continues to be challenged. I guess the question is, what do you guys think has to happen to clear the market out to the point where it is an opportunistic environment for you? Is it simply just work through the 22 vintage? Do residual prices need to come down further? Or what other factors might we look out for?

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Ken Booth
Chief Executive Officer

I think it's primarily continuing to adjust our loan forecast when we're originating new loans to consider the performance we've seen, and that's what we've continued to do. As I mentioned earlier, the 22 loans have a less significant impact on our financial statements going forward. Our results will be more based on how our 23 and 24 business performs, and going into next year, how our 25 business performs. As Ken mentioned, we know that forecasting collection rates are difficult, so we have a business model that's designed to produce acceptable returns in aggregate, even if low performance is worse than forecasting. So we'll continue to take that approach as we move forward.

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John Hecht
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay, thanks. Our next question comes from a line of

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Conference Operator
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Robert Wildhack with Autonomous Research.

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Robert Wildhack
Analyst, Autonomous Research

Morning, guys. Question on the 23 and 24 vintages specifically. With second quarter earnings, I think you mentioned that you expected 23 and 24 to behave similarly to 22. As it stands today, though, forecasted collections are four and six percentage points higher for 23 and 24, respectively, versus 22. How should we square that difference? Do you think there's another shoe to drop with respect to 23 and 24? And if so, when do you think that could happen?

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Ken Booth
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think it's difficult to look at just the absolute collection rate because we've originated different mixes of business during those years. I think we need to look at our variance to our initial forecast. And you'll see that's currently lower on the 23 and 24 loans. And part of that's due to us having lowered our initial estimates on the 23 and 24 loans when we originated that, because we started to see some underperformance on the 21 and 22 loans, we considered that. And then we're also looking at the trends of what 23 has done so far versus 22, and we know those loans are performing better. So based on those two factors, we believe the 23 business and the 24 very seasoned at this point.

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Jay Martin
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. And I would just add that we said in prior calls that we were observing a similar trend in underperformance on the 23 and 24 loans, though that trend was less severe on the 22 loans. So we were seeing a similar pattern, but less severe. And then to Jay's point, we've adjusted our forecast on 23 and 24 loans.

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Robert Wildhack
Analyst, Autonomous Research

Okay. How do the recent hurricanes, how will those impact forecasted collections, if at all?

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Ken Booth
Chief Executive Officer

You know, the hurricanes impacted mainly Florida and North Carolina. Those two states are about 4.2 and 1.5% of our portfolio. But obviously the hurricanes didn't impact the entire state. So overall, they're really not that material impact to our portfolio. That said, they've been incredibly impactful for the people on the direct path, so consistent with our approach for many years, and we're working to get those impacted by the hurricanes in ways to help them get back on their feet.

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Robert Wildhack
Analyst, Autonomous Research

Okay. If I could just sneak one more in and ask Ken about something you highlighted earlier, specifically that the 22 vintage would still generate economic profit. I was wondering if you could give some more context there, like how much more economic profit does a good vintage like, say, 2019 generate versus 2022?

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Ken Booth
Chief Executive Officer

I mean, you know, we've got a wide variance of economic profit. Obviously, 2019, you know, was buoyed by stimulus payments and it overcollected. I don't really want to get into the details of our kind of profitability by vintage, but I guess what I would say is 2019 was a highly profitable vintage, and 2022 is a lesser profitable one, but they all produce economic profit, which means they're all profitable vintages.

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Robert Wildhack
Analyst, Autonomous Research

Okay. Thank you.

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Operator

As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question at this time, please press star 1-1 on your touchtone phone. Our next question comes from the line of Ryan Shelley with Bank of America.

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Ryan Shelley
Analyst, Bank of America

Hey, guys. Quick question here. So the active dealer count has come down a few quarters now. Can you just touch on what's driving that? Is that like a function of the softer market or being more selective? Just any color there would be great.

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Ken Booth
Chief Executive Officer

You know, I think active dealer counts is fairly flat, to be honest. It was higher in the first quarter due to seasonality. I would say in terms of the competitive environment, you know, for a while it seemed like a lot of people were pulling back. It seems like that subsided somewhat, and maybe the competitive environment is returning more to a normal environment, you know. However, that being said, we've still been able to grow our market share, and we've been able to, you know, we're on pace for our highest volume year ever. So, you know, I feel good about where we're at in terms of the competitive environment and how we're being able to grow the business.

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Ryan Shelley
Analyst, Bank of America

Got it. Got it. And then just one more quickly, if I could, so you have a bond maturity in March of 26, but it's callable at par now. How should investors think about your thought process around addressing that? Thanks.

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Doug Busk
Chief Treasury Officer

Right. Yeah. We're watching market conditions there very closely.

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Ryan Shelley
Analyst, Bank of America

Two good backs with that bond tranche.

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Doug Busk
Chief Treasury Officer

know first we have plenty of time it doesn't mature until march of 2026 so a year and a half to do something the other good fact there is relatively small 400 million so it's small relative to the size of our balance sheet and our liquidity so we have plenty of options we can refinance it in the senior no market and we can refinance it using securitization or we can just draw on our existing liquidity Rates for a new bond issue would probably be higher than that coupon that's on those notes today, so we're not in a rush to do anything with it. So we'll continue just to monitor it and do something appropriate before the maturity.

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Ryan Shelley
Analyst, Bank of America

Understood.

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Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Rowan with Janie Montgomery-Scott.

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John Rowan
Analyst, Janney Montgomery Scott

Hey, guys, just one follow-up. You know, the 2022 vintage is now sitting at a 13.2% spread versus an initial of 20.1. Obviously, it's a relatively big decline. But how do we think about, you know, where the level of economic profit doesn't become justifiable, right? I mean, 13.2% spread, if that's a proxy for the internal rate of return to that pool, you know, do we just look at that number to go down to your funding costs? Or, you know, where does that number become justifiable? you know, uneconomical to you?

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Jay Martin
Chief Financial Officer

I mean, it depends on which program you're talking about. So, you know, on the purchase program, you know, 1% decline in the forecasted collection rate. You know, your tax affects that, and you have to account for timing. But, you know, that ends up driving a reduction in our returns. portfolio program is a little bit more complicated to think about because you know the shortfall of collections is shared you know on a 80-20 basis with the dealer up to a certain point. So the portfolio program insulates us from variations of consumer loan performance where the purchase program doesn't. So the purchase program is obviously a lot more sensitive Our profitability on the purchase program is more sensitive to declines in forecasted collection rates than is the portfolio program. Okay. All right. Thank you.

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Operator

With no further questions in queue, I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Martin for any additional or closing remarks.

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Ken Booth
Chief Executive Officer

We would like to thank everyone for their support and for joining us on the conference call today. If you have any additional follow-up questions, please direct them to our investor relations mailbox at ir.creditacceptance.com. We look forward to talking to you again next quarter. Thank you.

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Operator

Once again, this does conclude today's conference. We thank you for your participation.

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