CCC Intelligent Solutions Holdings Inc.

Q1 2023 Earnings Conference Call


spk08: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the CCC Intelligence Solutions first quarter 2023 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising that your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is recorded. I would like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Bill Warmington, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
spk05: Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us today to review CCC's first quarter 2023 financial results, which we announced in the press release issued following the close of the market today. Joining me on the call are Gitesh Ramamurthy, CCC's Chairman and CEO, and Brian Herb, CCC CFO. The forward-looking statements we make today about the company's results and plans are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause the actual results and the implementation of the company's plans to vary materially. These risks are discussed in the earnings releases available on our Investor Relations website and under the heading Risk Factors in our 2022 Annual Report on Form 10-K filed with the SEC. Further, these comments and the Q&A that follows ARE COPYRIGHTED TODAY BY CCC INTELLIGENCE SOLUTIONS HOLDINGS INCORPORATED. ANY RETRANSMISSION OR REPRODUCTION OR OTHER USE OF THE SAME FOR PROFIT OR OTHERWISE WITHOUT PRIOR CONSENT OF CCC IS PROHIBITED AND A VIOLATION OF THE UNITED STATES COPYRIGHT AND OTHER LAWS. ADDITIONALLY, WHILE WE HAVE APPROVED THE PUBLISHING OF THE TRANSCRIPT OF THIS CALL BY A THIRD PARTY, WE TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR INACCURACIES THAT MAY APPEAR IN THAT TRANSCRIPT. Please note the discussion on today's call includes certain non-GAAP financial measures as defined by the SEC. The company believes these non-GAAP financial measures provide useful information to management and investors regarding certain financial and business trends relating to the company's financial condition and the results of operations. A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures is available in our earnings release that is available on our investor relations website. Thank you. And now I'll turn the call over to Kitesh.
spk10: Thank you, Bill, and thanks to all of you for joining us today. I'm pleased to report that CCC delivered another quarter of strong top and bottom line results, reflecting the predictability and profitability of our business. The first quarter of 2023, CCC's total revenue was $205 million, up 10% year over year and ahead of our guidance range. Adjusted EBITDA was $79.5 million, also ahead of our guidance range. And our adjusted EBITDA margin was 39%. On today's call, I'd like to highlight three themes that underpin our performance. The first is CCC's durable business model. The second is innovation. And third is the growing adoption of CCC solutions. First, our durable business model. Our clients in the P&C insurance economy are increasingly focused on the need to manage the business through two powerful megatrends, accelerating operational complexity and rising consumer expectations. Last year, auto insurers in the United States paid out over $200 billion in claims indemnity and spent about $25 billion on administrative expenses to handle those claims, known as loss adjustment expense, or LAE. Increasing operational complexity and consumer expectations are raising those costs even further. At CCC, we are focused on developing tools to help our clients increase efficiency and customer satisfaction while simultaneously overcoming headwinds from labor shortages, inflation, supply chain issues, and regulatory changes. We do this through innovation, specifically by developing new solutions that leverage our industry-leading focus on AI and our interconnected industry network. One of the main drivers of increasing operational complexity is the growing sophistication of the vehicles themselves. whether that is the sheer number of parts on the cars, the introduction of advanced driver assistance systems known as ADAS, or the expansion of electric vehicles or EVs. Increasing vehicle complexity has been and continues to be a major factor in rising lost costs. ADAS modules range from automatic braking to lane departure warnings and leverage a wide array of sensors and cameras. Repairing these systems typically requires more parts and more labor hours per repair, as well as diagnostic and calibration services, contributing to an increase in the average total cost of repair from $2,900 in 2017 to $4,200 in 2022, or 44% growth during this period. As vehicles become even more intricate, we anticipate the P&C insurance economy needing increasingly sophisticated tools to manage this change. While EVs are still a very small percentage of cars on the road, less than 1% of vehicles in operation, they are becoming increasingly popular with U.S. consumers. In 2017, EVs were less than 1% on new car sales. In 2022, they were almost 6%. Unfortunately, the average total cost of repair for an EV in 2022 is 50% higher than the average for non-EVs. While total EV claims are currently quite small, only about 1% of the claims processed by CCC in 2022, the long-term growth in this number and the increased complexity it causes is something we are helping our customers anticipate and address. Growing complexity is not the only challenge our customers face. Consumers today expect their commercial interactions to be highly digital, simplified, personalized, fast, empathetic, and available at all hours. The leading consumer-facing companies that have met those high expectations have essentially set the standard for interactions across our lives. The good news is that CCC's AI technology enables our customers to meet the standard by streamlining and digitizing the P&C claims journey. According to a CCC survey, 84% of policyholders prefer a digitized claims process, and CCC solutions are a key enabler of that shift. Whether that is enabling the submission of an auto claim via photos on their phone, instantly booking a repair appointment, or even resolving an injury claim digitally, our customers are deploying CCC solutions to help them deliver these digital experiences. This brings me to the second point I'd like to discuss with you today, innovation. CCC's business, which began with a single product, vehicle valuations, sold to one customer group, insurers, has grown to a point today where the CCC cloud powers the mission-critical operations of more than 30,000 companies across the P&C insurance economy, including insurers, repair facilities, OEMs, parts suppliers, lenders, and more. A fundamental driver of that expansion has been our commitment to innovation, and for the last several years, a major pillar of that innovation has been artificial intelligence. Today, More than 14 million auto claims have been processed using a CCC deep learning AI solution, generating tangible real world impact for our customers and significant direct revenue for CCC. Underpinning these advances are not just cutting edge technology, but over a trillion dollars of historical data as well as deeply embedded workflows that enable our customers to seamlessly deploy these innovations at scale. One example of our commitment to continuously expanding the scope of our AI-enabled innovations is our acquisition of SafeKeep in February last year. SafeKeep's technology uses AI and automated workflows to streamline the subrogation process, addressing a key pain point for our insurance customers. Subrogation is the process of insurance companies attempting to recover dollars from other parties who are at fault for a claim. It affects tens of billions of dollars in claims, costs insurers over $2 billion in estimated administrative expenses annually, and is a highly manual and time-intensive process. Digitizing subrogation is a natural extension of plans to address the industry's vision of straight-through processing. This in turn creates additional network benefits for insurers using CCC and extends the CCC cloud into lines of insurance outside of auto. We have spent the time since the acquisition integrating SafeKeep into the CCC cloud so that CCC's more than 300 insurance customers will have the opportunities to take advantage of this capability with direct tie-ins to the CCC solutions they already have in place. We have made significant investments to expand Safekeep's product functionality and are very pleased with the level of customer engagement and real-world results delivered by the solution today. We are also continuing to make substantial investments in AI across the entire CCC product line, including new computer vision applications in our casualty business, as well as ongoing enhancements to Update Plus our industry-leading CRM solution for repair facilities that uses semantic AI to help repair facilities sort and respond to consumer queries throughout the repair process. In the 12 months ending March 2023, over 80 million messages had been sent by UpdatePlus via email and text to over 17 million unique consumers. a significant increase from the 45 million messages sent to 10 million consumers in 2018. We remain tremendously excited about the long-term opportunity to digitize the PNC insurance economy by applying industry-leading AI to existing highly embedded workflows across the CCC connected network. My third and final point is a growing adoption of CCC solutions. The first solution I will cover is Estimate STP, our AI-based system that can pre-populate a complete line-level repair estimate on a qualified claim in seconds. The total number of claims processed through Estimate STP continues to grow as we onboard new customers and as existing customers increase their claim volumes by activating more collision categories, geographies, and vehicle types. The annualized run rate value of auto claims processed by Estimate SDP in March 2023 was over $1 billion. This is more than 10 times our run rate in March of 2022. While this is still less than 1% of our current annual auto physical damage claim volume, The rate at which customers are moving towards estimate STP is very encouraging. In diagnostics, we continue to grow both our network and the volume of scanned vehicles being verified on our platform. The first quarter of 2023, about 3,800 repair facilities ran a scan through one of CCC's diagnostic service partners. This was more than twice the number of repair facilities running scans in the first quarter of 2022. In the first quarter of 2023, over half a million scanned vehicles were verified on the CCC network, more than double the volume in the first quarter of 2022. As a reminder, this solution is designed to help improve consistency and transparency of scans and calibrations between repairers and insurers. CCC Engage, our solution which enables consumers to schedule estimate and repair appointments online with participating repair facilities, is currently eliminating 50,000 phone calls from repair facilities every month by facilitating integrated scheduling for insurers direct to consumers who have been in an accident. This process is in turn already generating 25,000 leads per month for repair facilities by allowing consumers to request estimates online using photos. The online process eliminates the need for the consumer to physically drive to the repair facility to obtain an initial estimate. reduces interruptions for the repair facility's estimators, and helps insurers improve their customers' experience. We continue to see opportunities for product adoption across both our repair facility and insurance customers. We previously highlighted a cross-selling momentum in repair facilities where the number of customers using four or more solutions has increased over 20% since 2020, and the average revenue per repair facility has increased 30% during that time. On the insurance side, a way to think about adoption is to look at CCC's revenue in relation to the aggregate annual amount insurers spend on claim payouts, including indemnity and LAE. Today, CCC's insurance revenue represents a very small percentage of these expenditures, about two-tenths of 1% or less than 20 basis points overall. Yet our solutions are helping insurers manage hundreds of billions of dollars of costs. We believe that the continued focus on digitization by carriers and the expanded PAM from emerging solutions provides a path to growing our share of a growing market. Let me conclude by saying that we are excited about what we have planned for 2023 and remain confident in our ability to continue to deliver on our strategic and financial objectives. I will now turn the call over to Brian, who will walk you through our results in more detail.
spk12: Thanks, Kitesh. As Kitesh highlighted, we are seeing good traction in the business, supported by both innovation and the growing adoption of solutions by our customers. A key component of our durable business is our highly efficient, predictable, and scalable financial model that enables us to balance investment and innovation and also drive operational efficiency throughout economic cycles. As we now turn to the numbers, I'd like to review our first quarter 2023 results and then provide guidance for the second quarter and full year of 2023. Total revenue for the first quarter was $204.9 million, up 10% from prior year period. Approximately six points of our revenue growth in Q1 was driven by cross-sell, upsell, and adoption of solutions across our installed client base, including the upsell of repair shop packages and the continued adoption of mobile and other digital solutions. Within the six points, about one point came from casualty volumes. An incremental four points of growth came from new logos, mostly repair facilities and parts suppliers. I also want to highlight that we saw more than one point of growth in Q1 from our emerging solutions, mainly diagnostics and estimate STP. Now, turning to our key metrics, software gross dollar retention or GDR, captures the amount of revenue retained from our client base compared to the prior year period. In Q1 2023, GDR was 99%. This is consistent with all of 2022. We believe our strong software GDR reflects the value we provide and the significant benefits that accrue to our customers from participating in the broader CCC network. Software GDR is a core tenant to our predictable and resilient revenue model. Software Net Dollar Retention, or NDR, captures the amount of cross-sell and upsell from our existing customers compared to the prior year period, as well as volume movements in our auto physical damage client base. In Q1 2023, software NDR was 106%, consistent with Q4 last year. Now I'll move to the income statement in more detail. As a reminder, unless otherwise noted, all metrics are non-GAAP, and we provide a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP in our press release. Adjusted gross profit in the quarter was 156.6 million. Adjusted gross profit margin was 76%. This was down from 78% in the first quarter of 2022. The lower adjusted gross profit margin primarily reflects higher depreciation expense from capitalized projects recently released to the market, while the associated revenue from these emerging solutions are still in the early stages of scaling. Overall, we feel good about the operating leverage and the scalability of the business model and our ability to deliver against our long-term adjusted gross profit target of 80%. In terms of expenses, Adjusted operating expense in Q1 2023 was $86.3 million, up 10% year over year. Growth in these expenses was largely driven by headcount additions that were onboarded in the second half of last year. Regarding the headcount ads, we are pleased with the progress made to advance both our operational capabilities and capacity for new product development. We feel like we are in a strong position to continue to deliver ongoing innovation into the market and execute against our strategic agenda. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $79.5 million, up 8% year-over-year, and adjusted EBITDA margin was 39%. Now turning to the balance sheet and cash flow, we ended the quarter with $338 million in cash and cash equivalents and 790 million of debt. At the end of the quarter, our net leverage was approximately 1.5 times adjusted EBITDA. Free cash flow in the quarter was 18.5 million, compared to 32.6 million in the prior year period. Unlevered free cash flow in Q1 was 28 million, or about 36% of our adjusted EBITDA. Q1 is seasonally our lowest free cash flow quarter because of the payment of our annual incentives. When you normalize for these payments, Q1 unlevered free cash flow would be in the low to mid-60s range. While our level of free cash flow can vary quarter to quarter based on seasonality or phasing or one-time items, it should average out to the low to mid-60s over time. I'd like to finish with guidance beginning the second quarter of 2023. We expect total revenue between 207.5 to 209.5 million. This represents 8 to 9% year over year growth. We expect adjusted EBITDA of 76.5 to 78.5 million, which represents a 37% adjusted EBITDA margin in Q2. For the full year 2023, we expect revenue of $844 to $850 million, which represents 8% to 9% year-over-year growth. We expect adjusted EBITDA of $332 to $338 million, which represents a 40% adjusted EBITDA margin at the midpoint. Two points to keep in mind as you think about our second quarter and full year guidance. The first is that we feel good about our ability to deliver our position for the year. While we did see some incremental benefit from higher volumes related to casualty in Q1, we are not factoring this trend to continue through the balance of the year. We have raised the low end of our guidance based on the momentum in the business and the durable revenue model that provides good visibility to our long-term subscription contracts. The second point is that we expect adjusted EBITDA margins to step up in H2 from the low point in Q2, which will be impacted by seasonal expenses, such as the annual payroll step up, our annual customer conference, and the year over year effect, the second half of last year headcount ads. Also in Q2, we have approximately $2 million of non-recurring dual running hosting costs related to the migration from private to public cloud. For 2023 overall, we expect adjusted EBIT margins to increase to about 40%, with most of the year-over-year expansion taking place in the second half of the year as we lap last year's headcount ramp and benefit from the continued operating leverage of the business. Overall, our guidance reflects our confidence in the underlying strength of the business. The combination of our advanced AI capabilities and our interconnected network puts us in a unique position to help our customers improve the speed of decision-making, the efficiency of their operations, and the quality of the overall consumer experience. We believe we have many shots on goal across our solution sets. This includes solutions that we've had in the market for years, as well as our new set of emerging solutions that we've recently released to the market. The need for digitization across the P&C insurance economies continues to accelerate, and CCC is well positioned to drive durable growth in both revenue and profitability in the near and long term. We are confident in our ability to deliver against our long-term target of 7% to 10% organic revenue growth and adjusted EBITDA margins expanding to the mid-40s. As we continue to execute on our strategic agenda, we believe it will generate significant value for both our customers and for our shareholders. With that, operator, we are now ready to take questions. Thank you.
spk08: Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question and answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. One moment, please. Our first question comes from the line of Michael Funk of Bank of America. Your line is now open.
spk14: Thank you very much. You know, a couple for you, Gitesh, if I could. And, you know, thank you again for all the commentary about, you know, growth and demand for F2 and FTP and then diagnostics as well and quantifying that for us. Can you help us think, though, about the quantification, for example, you know, 2X increase in diagnostics? increased adoption of S&STP, and link that through to modeling for revenue growth. So how would you think about that impacting revenue growth as demand for that accelerates? And then, you know, final piece of the multi-part question, we've seen an increase in growth in DWP across insurance in the U.S. after a low point, I think, in 20. How does that potentially impact your revenue or growth trajectory, if at all?
spk10: Hey, thanks for that question. I'll take the last part of your question first. And I think this is really one of the reasons I've given that small stat at the beginning or somewhere in the middle where we are now roughly call it two tenths of 1% of the entire spend and spend correlates very closely to DWP. And as DWP has continued to increase, a CCC spend as a percentage of revenue has actually gone slightly lower, even though we've added more solutions and everything else. So we feel very, very good about continuing to deliver more solutions because at the heart of it is really the dollars we're managing compared to say the dollars we were managing even three years ago, that has increased. That's almost doubled in the last three, four years. partly because of inflation and everything else. Now, as you know, our revenue model is primarily subscription-based, so it doesn't really vary that much. But the need for solutions to manage more components of claims and other components of insurance increases significantly. So that's kind of the last piece of your question. And then in terms of modeling, I'll I'll make a couple of comments on estimate SDP and diagnostics before I turn it over to Brian on the actual modeling. So if you look at estimate SDP, the macro thing is that we delivered the solution in November of 2021. And in less than a year's time from March of last year to where we are today, we're at an annualized run rate of a billion dollars of estimates and repair going through. still very, very small number relative to CCC overall. That product has, and Brian will walk you through the modeling. So we feel very good about customers and adoption. And then same thing with diagnostics. We're continuing to see a very nice uptake. Our diagnostic solutions provide a lot of clarity, verification, scans upfront in the middle of the process and after. So Brian, I'll turn it over to you if you want to. hit any of the modeling questions from Michael.
spk12: Yeah, sure. Thanks, Kitesh. Hey, Michael. So when we talk about the emerging solutions, we kind of look at diagnostics, estimate STP, we put subrogation, payment. So those are several of the key solutions that fit into the emerging solutions. The way we've modeled it out is we've said for our long-term revenue growth, we're going to see about 20% of growth coming from new logos and 80% coming from our existing clients. And then we broke it down further and said out of that 80% of growth, half of it will come from products that we've had in the market for several years, and half of it will come from this new cohort of emerging solutions. So that's the way to think about the long-term guide on the impact of the emerging solutions. I mentioned for Q1, we had over one point of growth for the emerging solutions. So you think about kind of that's where we are today as a run rate and moving to the three to four points of growth based on that long-term guide.
spk14: That's great color, guys. Thank you so much. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks, Michael.
spk08: Thank you. Thank you. Please hold for our next question. One moment, please. Our next question comes from the line of Zeket Khalia of Barclays. Your line is now open.
spk09: Okay, great. Hey, Gitesh. Hey, Brian. Thanks for taking my questions here. Hey, Gitesh, maybe just to start with you, I'd love if we could just double-click a little bit on the casualty business. You know, it was mentioned a little bit more in this script. I was just wondering, can we just maybe take a stab at roughly how big that is as a percentage of revenue? And more importantly, how do you sort of think about the drivers of growth there over the next couple of years?
spk10: Sure. I'll give you kind of some overall thoughts. So when you look at casualty, out of every five auto claims, roughly one auto claim results in a casualty exposure, a medical claim associated with it. So one in five. Yet the dollar spend on physical damage, which means either repairing a vehicle, totaling a vehicle, all that X, and then the cost of the medical claim is roughly in line with what is spent on auto physical damage. So dollar for dollar, it is approaching $1. very similar kind of overall numbers. So it's sizable numbers. So when you look at our, why we are in this business and why it makes a lot of sense for us is that the upfront part of an auto claim right at the, when an accident happens, there's a number of decisions and number of insights that come out of the physics of the accident, including some of the AI work we've been doing from photos, that has a significant bearing downstream in terms of what is paid out for that collision, for that claim, for that auto claim. And hence, it lends itself to many of the things we would like to accomplish through straight through processing, even though casualty claims are one in five. Another macro point is that as inflation hits casualty and other things, scientific precision, and a more scientific rigor around really how you look at the accident, how you look at the physics of the accident, what you pay. There's a very substantial amount of work that is being done. And when you look at our customer base, roughly 300 insurance carriers in the United States are customers for our auto physical damage product. The number of customers that are our customers in the casualty business is a very small fraction of that. So therefore, we see the ability to continue to expand in casualty. Over the last three plus years, we have invested substantially in the platform casualty platform itself in terms of its core capabilities, and we're starting to see the benefits from customers. Brian, do you want to add anything to that or second, did that answer your questions?
spk12: Yeah, I would just add one data point. I think Sackett has specifically this size today. It's about 10% of revenue today. Sackett, if we have the same market share as our APD business at scale, it could be a $300 million business over time.
spk09: Got it. Got it. That's all very helpful, guys. Brian, maybe for my follow-up, just on a slightly different question, I was wondering if we could just talk about the margin dynamics for the year, and particularly Q2. I think you mentioned, apologies if I missed the exact number, but it sounded like you mentioned some dual costs specifically in Q2. It sounded like kind of dual hosting costs. Can you just talk about how those are going to trend in particular as we sort of think about the margin expansion in the second half?
spk12: Yeah, happy to second. Yeah, so when we look at Q2, the margin, there's a couple things happening when you look at the Q2 position. The first is we onboarded a meaningful part of our hiring plan last year in the second half. So we are seeing that margin pressure run through the first half of this year, and we'll begin to lap that as we get into the second half of the year. So that's putting pressure in Q2. We also have some seasonal points. So one is the payroll step-up that's happening in Q2. We also have our annual customer conference that plays through in the quarter as well. And then the third point, which you alluded to, is we do have this non-recurring one-off dual running cost, and we highlight about $2 million, and it's related to cloud migration. So we're moving from one cloud provider to another, and that's driving some one-time costs, which is about $2 million in the quarter. So all those are running through. We then get to... the second half of the year, and we do see expansion. And so we're modeling out expansion in the second half, and we get to a full year, and we're forecasting margin about 40% for the full year. So that's how it kind of plays through from Q1 performance into Q2, where we have some of those headwinds that's putting pressure, and then we do see expansion in the second half, getting us to 40 points for the year.
spk11: Got it. Very helpful, guys. Thanks. Thanks, Hackett.
spk08: Thank you. Please hold for our next question. One moment, please. Our next question comes from the line of Kirk Maturn of Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.
spk03: Yeah, thanks very much and congrats on the quarter. Gitesh, I was wondering if you could just talk about sort of the, you know, this AI boom we've had, you know, in terms of the democratization of the topic and you know, how that's maybe influencing your conversations. I realize you guys are perhaps been ahead of the wave that we've seen over the last few months, but, you know, is it creating a greater sense of urgency for any of your customers to start investigating products like SDP? Is it helping take, you know, pilot projects from, you know, a month to a couple of weeks or can you just talk about how that's sort of impacting the discussions and maybe the pipeline that you look at for your AI driven products? Thanks.
spk10: Yeah, I would say the macro point, Kirk, is that as there is much more press around AI in general, you literally can't open a paper or an article without reading about AI. It is in general increasing visibility, awareness. And so that actually is a very positive trend for us. As you know, we have been at this for seven, if not almost nine years now. of building very sophisticated models. And if you look at a couple of the core advantages we have is hundreds of models and an enormous amount of depth driven by about a trillion dollars of historical data and daily data that comes in, right? On a daily basis, we're literally seeing hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars of real-time data coming in through. So the feedback loops for the models is enormously powerful. I would say one other thing that is super helpful for us that our clients really appreciate and appreciated more is that we are in line in the existing workflows. So we are not applying AI separately. We're applying the AI in existing workflows. So it is very seamlessly integrated into existing paths and the way it works. So what we are seeing is really three dimensions where we're continuing to add customers for pilots, additional customers, and the customers that we brought on board for some components, they're expanding to more markets, more states, more geographies. We've also added more comprehensive vehicle types. And so it is actually nice to see the market We were very early in this process, and it's exciting to actually see the market now and the press and everything else around it is actually very helpful to the cause in terms of customers.
spk03: You guys were definitely earlier on that trend. And then just one quick thought for Brian. Brian, just on the headcount additions over the course of the year, is there anything we should keep in mind in terms of how that'll play into the margin ramp in the back half of the year? I guess, are you kind of on track with what you want? Was there any... Just where are you, I guess, on headcount additions relative to your plan for the year? Thanks.
spk12: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so we had some catch-up headcount that we put in play last year, and it was weighted to the second half of the year. Beyond that, we are continuing to add heads, but nothing significant to call out that would distort any of the quarterly phasing. So we see kind of just normal progress as we go forward. Again, we're highlighting some margin pressure in Q2, but then we see the expansion in the second half, and we're guiding to about 41% margin in the second half to get us to the 40% for the full year. So our operational plan and our hiring plan is consistent with those assumptions.
spk08: Thank you. Please hold for our next question. One moment, please. Our next question comes from the line of Samad Samana of Jefferies. Your line is now open.
spk07: Hi, good evening. Thanks for taking my question. So I had a follow-up question on the AI side. And as I think about estimate SDP and the other products that that are powered by AI, how should we think about the usage increasing so dramatically and maybe where does that flow into costs in the short term? And is that part of the reason why you're changing to a different cloud provider? I just wanted to maybe explore that topic a little bit more.
spk10: Samad, first of all, welcome to CCC. I think this is your first call. Thank you for joining.
spk07: It is. I really look forward to working with you all and continuing to get to know you better.
spk10: Great. So first and foremost, you know, again, as I mentioned, it is still less than, even though the expansion has been substantial, we talked about a 10x increase in the estimate SDP component from processing on an annualized basis, you know, from going from 100 million in March of last year run rate, annualized run rate, to a billion this year, it's still less than 1%. So I would say some of what we did, so that is not really, in any significant way, it's still a very small number, but it's super exciting to see the growth, the way customers have been piloting it, testing it, deploying it, lots and lots of work done between us and our customers. And that gives me enormous comfort and confidence about the path we're on and the feedback we're getting. So we feel very good about that. Relative to your question on the hosting cost, what we really did in the quarter was took a small component of our hosting and we moved a small component of hosting that we're doing from one provider to another provider. So there's a little parallel running, a couple of million dollars in the quarter, and that should be over this quarter. So they really, the two dots are not connected. Did that answer your question?
spk07: Absolutely. I appreciate the thoroughness and then maybe just, um, how does that, you know, how does the company think about the type of seller or the sales organization and how they're going to market today versus increasingly having to sell maybe solutions that have more of a technical element to it? Does it change? the nature of the sales cycle or the nature of the type of seller that you have? And how are you thinking about that from a, from an evolutionary standpoint with the, with the sellers that you have today?
spk10: Sure. So first and foremost, we, you know, we have a full complement of people that have been with us for a long period of time and we cover all our customers at the heart of it. While we, all our solutions have a deep, very deep amount of technology behind them what we're really delivering to a customer really two things operational excellence the ability for them to improve operational performance and an ROI associated with it so we've been in the business of delivering operational performance and ROI in a very short period of time over literally the last you know 20 plus years and So that core ability to deliver operational improvement and ROI, that hasn't changed. But where needed, we have absolutely added specialists from our product development, product engineering, sales engineering, and other components. It's more augmentation as needed. So it's not really a major lift and shift for us.
spk08: Thank you. Please hold for our next question. One moment, please. Our next question comes from the line of Dylan Becker of William Blair. Your line is now open.
spk02: Hey, guys. Thanks and congrats. Maybe, Gitesh, going back to the AI piece too, you guys have spent a lot of time investing in R&D capabilities. You've got that massive differentiated data set. Would love to understand how you think about allocating resources as we think about kind of stakeholders in the broader ecosystem, right? So going deeper in CAI capabilities kind of for the core customer-based, customer segment and workflows today, obviously expanding SDP versus, again, I think go back to that like dark blue and light blue slide you guys had out of the IPO, but being able to address more of those kind of potential customer segments or integrations across the ecosystem as well. So maybe deeper versus wider.
spk10: Hey Dylan. Yeah. So, you know, if you look at the heart of what we really learned of doing this over the last, you know, almost almost a decade is we have really built an extraordinary amount of very deep expertise from the very early days when we were buying Nvidia CUDA engines to build graphics, you know, to build basically our AI models a long time ago to where we are today. So we have built and developed a core set of capabilities where we can look at a problem and say, AI would be super helpful for this, or a more traditional algorithm would be really super helpful for this. And there's also a lot of side effects, second order effects about either drift, you know, in terms of confidence levels. What we've also learned is governance around this is super important to our customers. Meaning what is the confidence level? What's the accuracy level being super transparent about all of that. So the learning we've had in terms of our core people and our capability We have a substantial amount of engineering talent now capable of building AI and models across any facet of the business. What we've also done in our tech stack is to make sure that our AI models can be deployed quickly and seamlessly across the tech stack. So if you look at estimate FTP, great example of using AI there. We talked about Engage where we're using semantic AI. We talked about subrogation where we're using AI models for subrogation. AI will be applied to parts ordering. And so we've actually made sure that we keep enhancing our tech stack so that the ability and speed at which we can deploy the AI to different vertical problems. So every one of our newer and emerging solutions, as well as some of our, what I'd call our classic products, classic solutions, they're also using AI. For example, the simple ability to decide between a repair and a total loss. We're applying AI to even that process.
spk02: Yeah, super helpful. Yeah, and obviously a lot of optionality there. So very exciting and encouraging. Maybe if we switch over to the diagnostic side, It seems like there's a couple drivers on that opportunity as well. So, I mean, how should we think about maybe not only the opportunity for just like a pure kind of pre or post repair scan tied to the vehicle upgrade cycle, but also the opportunity maybe for more in-process scanning capabilities or calibrations, obviously, as there's more sensors connected to all of these vehicles. But thinking about kind of the different drivers and the importance between the two, because it seems like there's kind of different ways that they could layer and be beneficial to the business as well.
spk10: Yeah, you know, you're dead right about this, because at the heart of all of this is really increasing vehicle complexity. So what happens is vehicles become more complex and newer vehicles come in. The need to scan the vehicle at the beginning is sometimes in the middle and sometimes at the end, so you know exactly what is wrong with the car, what needs to be reset. So that's a component. And as you rightfully pointed out, as a car park continues to get newer, new cars start to keep coming in, scanning becomes an extraordinarily important part of repairing a car accurately. One other element that our solution provides that is very unique is that the ability to verify that the scan was actually completed on the car, a pre-scan, a post-scan, so that there's complete transparency between the carrier, the repair facility, the provider. That's a very important element of it because it's now standardized that process and provides transparency through all of these capabilities. And then that also extends to calibrations. And then, of course, as we mentioned, We have wonderful partners who are actually providing the connectivity into the scanning solutions. And our partners have been fantastic at this. And so we have, you know, as I think I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we have seen literally a doubling of the number of scans from Q1 of last year to Q1 of this year. With that said, it's still, you know, early days in terms of scanning.
spk08: Thank you. Please hold for our next question. One moment, please. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Moore of CJS Securities. Your line is now open.
spk04: All right. Hey, good evening, guys. Thanks for taking a couple questions. So I thought that the conversation, that 20 basis point metric was a really interesting way to look at it. understanding that the total cost of claims is going to keep on going up, is there a target in terms of this 20 basis that you guys think about? I mean, someday it could be 50 basis points or that's not kind of part of the process.
spk10: You know, Chris, thanks for joining. We don't really have a target. The way we think about this is that When you connect this to the TAM that we've laid out in our public documents, this is why we remain confident about a multi-billion dollar TAM. And when you connect it to what, you know, the less than 20 basis points we get today, and this is what gives us enormous confidence in the TAM that is available. And so we just kind of wanted to share that as a basis point. But the way our products are built, the way our products are consumed by our customers, they're mostly subscription-based. So it's just another way of saying there is a sizable opportunity here. Got it.
spk04: And my follow-up may be a little less fundamentally oriented, more focused on the stock. So you guys are coming up on your two-year anniversary since going public. You know, given the relatively small float and things like sponsor earn-out shares that could be some added volatility as the stock, you know, ultimately moves back into the teens and beyond. Obviously, your focus is on the fundamentals, you know, not, you know, you'll be rewarded as you deliver there. But I just thought it would be worth discussing kind of longer term equity incentives of management and how they were impacted by future stock prices. You know, my understanding is that a $25 stock price, you know, is an important target for for loan return management incentives and just wanted to kind of hear your thinking there.
spk10: Sure. You know, one of the things that's always been great about what we've done is that we have always wanted our leadership team to act as owners, not just in terms of equity and options and grants and the like, when actually owning stock and having significant ownership, We believe that really drives ownership behavior. So if you just look at the last two years that we've been public, right, eight quarters, going from first quarter of 2021 to where we are today, literally eight quarters later, we've added about a third in revenue growth on a run rate annualized basis, roughly $200 million. We have increased earnings by about a half, and we've delivered $200 million of additional cash flow. in that timeframe. So we are, we feel very good about the value we are creating for our customers, uh, the operational performance. And we think, oh, the long run, you know, your points about the float and the, uh, the, the float that we have on the stock, we think we will power our way through these things provided we continue to deliver and execute. And remember, many of our leadership team, our top leaders, all our employees, we have a very long term orientation and have been at it for a very long period of time. And so I would say people in general, yes, feel bullish about where we think we'll end up as day to day. It's very hard to predict what the stock is actually going to do.
spk04: Very helpful. I will leave it there. I appreciate it.
spk10: Thank you, Chris.
spk08: Thank you. One moment for our next question, please. Please stand by. Our next question comes from the line of Tyler Radke of Citi. Your line is now open.
spk11: Hey, thanks for taking the question, and good evening. You mentioned in your scripture test about, obviously, the increase in electric vehicles on the road. I was wondering if you could just share some data points on what you're seeing in terms of maybe repair shops that are more focused on electric vehicles. Is there any common customer behavior in terms of increased monetization rates, better product uptake just given they are most likely dealing with higher claim ticket prices. So presumably if you get a better take rate, just any comments on kind of how that's impacting the fundamentals of your company just based on what you see at those customers.
spk10: Yeah. Hey, Tyler, good to have you on the call. I would say maybe two or three points. First, what we're seeing is that even though Sales last year was 6% of all vehicles sold on EVs. Only what we're seeing is literally only 1% of that is actually translating. I mean, that corresponds to the installed base of vehicles to roughly 1%. But to my point that I was making earlier, which is the average cost of repair for EVs are today 50% higher than non-EVs. And the complexity around those vehicles is a little higher when you have to disengage an 800-volt rail or deal with different voltage subsystems and electrics. So additional things like diagnostics become really important, the ability to have more accurate repair procedures on how you disable voltage or where you cut the vehicle for a weld, all of those things become important. So we are also seeing some degree of specialization because of the capex required by some of the repair facilities. And so it is tending towards the larger repair facilities and the more sophisticated repair facilities doing more of this work. But we think over time, this will balance itself out because what you're dealing with in a collision repair is not the underlying subsystems like the motors or the gearbox or any of those things on an ICE vehicle or an EV vehicle. You don't have those, but you're dealing with the exterior panels, the cameras, the calibration devices, and the exterior of the vehicle. And we think that process will get democratized as more and more electric vehicles get on the road. And as we talk to OEMs, they would like to see that as well.
spk11: That sounds like a long-term tail end for the business.
spk10: Yes, and helping our customers with dealing with the complexity, yes.
spk11: Yeah, yeah, okay. And Brian, one for you. So you called out some elevated casualty volumes in the first quarter, I guess, and not to be too nitpicky here, but I think everyone's wondering about the macro environment. If I go back a year ago, I think you raised the high end of your guidance by $2 million coming out of Q1. I think this quarter you just took up the low end of the guidance. And again, no one's going to fault you for not being aggressive. But just curious if there's anything to call out, maybe any incremental conservatism that you're applying to the pipeline just as you give the updated guide here, which didn't increase on the high end despite the strength of the quarter. Thank you.
spk12: Yeah, absolutely. So as you remember, 80% of our revenue is subscription-based, and less than 20% is transactional. Part of the overperformance that we saw in Q1 was related to higher volume for casualty, and that's part of the transactional volume. So that higher volume is not guaranteed to sustain at that level, so we didn't model it through the balance of the year. That said, due to the visibility that we do have on the 80% that's subscription-based and under long-term contracts, we did raise the low end of the guide, and that also pushed up the mid point of the range. And so, you know, we're happy with the performance and the momentum in the business. We are, you know, comfortable on the position for the year. That said, it is early in the year, and we are operating in dynamic markets.
spk08: Thank you. Please stand by for our next question. One moment, please. Our next question comes from the line of Gabriela Borges of Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.
spk01: Gabriela Borges Good afternoon. Thank you. Good touch, Brian. You're one of the few companies that has shown resiliency throughout the macro volatility of the last 12 months. Following on from that last question, I'm curious, what kind of data or macro environment would make you incrementally more nervous about the pipeline or about Elon getting sales cycles or essentially seeing a more negative impact on your business from macro volatility?
spk10: Hey, Gabriella. Thanks for joining. As you know, we've operated this business for several decades and I've seen various economic cycles and the only time where we saw a decrease in claim frequency was during the first year of covid and you know because of the underlying nature of the business being mandatory insurance and the you know people need to drive so that underlying architecture of the business itself means that our business over the last 20 plus years has really not been changed in any way. There's not been an acyclicality in the business. It's been more steady. And if you look at claim volumes in general, over many years, they tend to turn up a little bit over time as population increases. And, you know, I would, you know, we have, so this is one of the reasons why we have architected our business to be able to deliver an ROI in 90 days. That means when you deploy our solution, it's not a multi-year implementation. It is a relatively quick implementation. Being on the cloud is super helpful. So all of these are incremental solutions with incremental, very quick ROI that our customers like to test. So the answer to your question of, you know, we're monitoring the macro environment very carefully and cautiously, but our observation over the last many years has been, you know, the approach we've taken has worked.
spk01: Thanks, Dr. Calda.
spk08: Thank you. Please hold for our next question. One moment, please. Our next question comes from the line of Gary Prestapino of Barrington Research. Your line is now open.
spk13: Hi. Good afternoon, everyone. Hey, Gitesh. I wanted to just get back to this estimate STP. Last time we spoke, you had said you really hadn't. You had just done kind of a selective rollout, even though you have a number of insurance companies. that had uptake in this product. Have you, and I think it was selective rollout in a couple of states, I mean, have you expanded that any? I mean, to me, only if 1% of your claims volume is going through, and this is such a much more efficient process. How do you get more insurance companies to use it, I guess, is the question, too, that I would have.
spk10: Hey, Gary. I would say a couple of things. First and foremost, it also requires as we started working with clients, we wanted to be extremely careful that people were actually seeing really great results. And so we limited the number of vehicle types. So we've slowly expanded the number of vehicle types the solution is available to. So we've expanded that. And also we were encouraging early customers to actually limit the geography so we can actually test, pilot, and make sure we work carefully in their particular environments. What we have seen is really an expansion of both, that we now cover a very broad range of vehicles, and we have some customers who have gone out to pretty much nationwide, but still we're limiting the number of actual claims that go through this process with very high degrees of confidence So as that confidence increases, we want to be very thoughtful and very careful in the early days of implementation. But we feel very good about what we're seeing, both in terms of people adding additional states, tuning processes, as well as additional clients wanting to pilot the solution.
spk13: Do the repair shops have to do anything to work with the insurance companies? that are using this estimate STP? Is there any capital threshold for them?
spk10: The short answer is no. There is no need for the repair facilities to actually change anything from their process standpoint. And because of the network effects that we have between the insurers and the repairers, the transition of the photos, the estimates, And even the estimates produced can be edited and changed by a repair facility, so that's very easy to do. And we'll also be delivering other solutions for repair facilities, AI solutions.
spk08: Thank you. Please hold for our next question. One moment, please. Our next question comes from the line of Alexey Gogolev of JP Morgan. Your line is now open.
spk06: Hello, everyone, and thank you for taking my question. Could you elaborate on the traction of your payments business? There appear to be quite a lot of applications to that product within your ecosystem, so maybe you could... Talk about which of those applications could potentially drive most upside to your revenue.
spk10: Alexei, first of all, welcome to CCC. I think this is your first call with us. Thank you for joining. And I would say, you know, on the payment solution, we see the payment solution as a horizontal solution in the sense that it applies to all forms of payments across the network. payments to medical providers, payments from repair facilities to parts providers, insurers to repair facilities. So we've built a generic payment solution that works across the platform. And what we have been working with customers is really the early use cases. And we do have some revenue starting to flow through, but we are primarily seeing more opportunities across the ecosystem So it is not in any one particular application.
spk06: Okay, perfect. And then could you maybe elaborate on the adoption of mobile? How has it been increasing? And what is currently the share of claims now settled through the mobile channel?
spk10: So what we have seen is from a, you know, almost a dead center start of zero, of very, very little mobile at the start of January of 2020, right before COVID, we are now hitting a threshold of about 28.5%, slightly under 30%. And so that number steadily continues to increase because of all the benefits and efficiencies it provides to the consumer. And we have continued to also enhance that solution substantially. So not only can you take guided photos of the accident, we can help you schedule the repair. You get updates throughout the repair process. So mobile has become a very integrated part of the platform. And we've seen that grow to about 30% today. And I think it was probably in that 20% range a couple of years ago. So it continues to increase. And we've also brought mobile capabilities to our repair facilities in a big way. As I mentioned, the Engage solution has a fundamental ability for consumers to take pictures and get estimates from repair facilities, whether it's insurance paid or self-paid. So we've brought a lot of mobile capabilities over the years to collision repairs, both in terms of tablets, mobile phones, and linking to consumers.
spk08: Thank you. I would like to turn it back to Gitesh Ramamurthy, CEO and Chairman of the Board for closing remarks.
spk10: Thank you all for joining us today. I'd like to thank our customers, our CCC team members, and our shareholders for a great start to 2023. The durability of our business model continues to come through. and we remain confident in our ability to deliver on our strategic and financial objectives while helping our customers and investing in future solutions. We look forward to talking to you again in early August when we report our second quarter results, if not sooner. Thank you so much for your continued trust in us.
spk08: Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.

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