Cross Country Healthcare, Inc.

Hello everyone. Welcome to Cross Country Healthcare's Earnings Conference Call for the fourth quarter 2023. Please be advised that this call is being recorded and a replay of this webcast will be available on the company's website. Details for accessing the audio replay can be found in the company's earnings release issued this afternoon. At the conclusion of the prepared remarks, I will open the lines for questions. I would now like to turn the call over to Josh Vogel, Cross-Country Healthcare is the Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you, and please go ahead, sir.

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm joined today by our President and Chief Executive Officer, John Martins, as well as Bill Burns, our Chief Financial Officer, and Mark Krug, who is President of Delivery. Today's call will include a discussion of our financial results for the fourth quarter and full year of 2023, as well as our outlook for the first quarter of 2024. A copy of our earnings press release is available on our website at crosscountry.com. Please note that certain statements made on this call may constitute forward-looking statements. These statements reflect the company's beliefs based upon information currently available to it. As noted in our press release, forward-looking statements can vary materially from actual results and are subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors, including those contained in the company's 2022 annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Forms 10-Q, as well as in other filings with the SEC. The company does not intend to update guidance or any of its forward-looking statements prior to the next earnings release. Additionally, we reference non-GAAP financial measures, such as adjusted EBITDA or adjusted earnings per share, Such non-GAAP financial measures are provided as additional information and should not be considered substitutes for or superior to those calculated in accordance with U.S. GAAP. More information related to these non-GAAP financial measures is contained in our press release. Also during this call, we may refer to pro forma when normalized numbers pertain to our most recent acquisitions as though the results were included or excluded from the periods presented. With that, I will now turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, John Martins. Thanks, Josh.

and thank you everyone for joining us this afternoon. Overall, I was pleased with our fourth quarter and full year 2023 results, and particularly in how we have responded to the challenging marketing additions in our nurse and allied segments as health systems seek ways to reduce their reliance on contingent labor. After declining in the first half of 2023, travel demand remained fairly stable, However, coming into the new year, we are seeing another pullback in orders, which appears to be industry-wide across most specialties and geographies. Many systems are nonetheless seeing increases in volumes, which we believe will ultimately translate into rising demand for our services. And with our focus on innovation and operational excellence, as well as the help of our balance sheet, cross-country is well-positioned to weather these near-term headwinds and we believe we are poised to see sequential growth in the back half of the coming year. Now I'd like to take a moment to reflect on our full year performance. We generated $144 million of adjusted EBITDA, our second best year in company history, following the record year in 2022. We also had a record year for cash flow from operations, generating $249 million, which enabled us to end the year with a strong debt-free balance sheet. In addition, we invested more than $20 million on technology initiatives and repurchased 2.3 million shares of stock, representing approximately 6% of our outstanding shares this year. Perhaps the most noteworthy accomplishment from 2023 was the rollout of our vendor management system in Telify. This VMS technology amplifies and enhances productivity by more effectively managing, deploying, and anticipating workforce needs for our clients. Throughout the year, we witnessed the level of interest in this technology grow, leading to a series of wins that exceeded internal targets. In fact, two fairly sizable deals that we closed early in the fourth quarter were fully implemented before year end. demonstrating the speed at which we can deploy this technology. In addition to our client-facing Intellify offering, we rebranded our Experience app last year, which is a candidate-facing tool that enables clinicians with the power to manage their careers anytime, anyplace they want. Equally exciting, Experience is on our roadmap to be fully integrated into Intellify. Unlike conventional job matching, Experience ensures a precise alignment of clinicians with roles that uniquely match their skills and aspirations. In 2023, we had more than 18,000 app downloads and over 100,000 unique viewers that accessed experience through our mobile app and website. And finally, we launched Data Aggregation Services, or DAS, which offers unique insights on bill rate trends that help hospitals validate their costs by providing real-time benchmarking and visibility. From an MSP and vendor-neutral sales perspective, 2023 was a very active year in our industry. And though we experienced a higher level of attrition in the earlier part of the year, we left 2023 on a very positive trajectory from both a retention and new client perspective as well as having a robust pipeline. The annualized spend under management from our recent wins is estimated to be over $125 million when fully ramped. And since late December, we've had two more wins, including one verbal, with total estimated annual spend of more than $75 million. We believe that these and other wins we expect to close throughout the year will provide some tailwinds in the second half of the coming year. It's also interesting to note that we have seen a more balanced interest from hospital systems between MSP and vendor-neutral programs, and we are strategically positioned to capitalize and grow share on both these fronts. Our focus for 2024 is on continuing to expand our client base and growing our relationships with existing clients through an expansion of services And though we are always focused on driving efficiency, our plans for the coming year include leveraging both our offshore operations, as well as continuing to invest in cutting edge technologies, such as AI agents and robotic process automation. These efforts will allow us to lower costs, enhance predictive job matching, improve talent sourcing, and assess candidate suitability. I look forward to sharing our progress on these and many other initiatives on future calls. Turning to the quarter, consolidated revenue was $414 million, which is above the high end of our guidance range. And though adjusted EBITDA of $21 million was within our guidance range, it would have been even higher had it not been for a charge to allowance for doubtful accounts, which Bill will cover in more detail. As expected, travel revenue in the fourth quarter was down 12% sequentially, on track with our expectations for both rates and volumes. Looking ahead, travel bill rates continue to stabilize and are trending in line with expectations. As we've called out previously, there remains a gap in expectations around bill rates with clients and pay rates from clinicians on many orders, impacting both our fill rate as well as our margins. As we navigate this dynamic, we will remain competitive in order to preserve our market share while balancing overall profitability. Turning to our other business lines, position staffing continued its strong performance with reported fourth quarter revenue of 26% year-over-year, quickly approaching an annual run rate of $200 million. Driving this was a combination of higher billable days and an improved mix of higher bill rate specialties. The segment's contribution to income reflects the ongoing investments we are making in the business that we believe will drive organic growth and margin expansion throughout 2024. Our education business continued to perform well, up 9% from the prior year and more than 50% from the third quarter following the start of the new school year. Our home care business was flat sequentially and year over year. though we exited the year on a solid trajectory. As we reported last quarter, we had five home care MSP wins and presently have nine programs in implementation. On the backs of these wins, I believe this business will experience strong organic growth in 2024. Now, turning to our outlook for the first quarter, given my earlier comments on the current market backdrop, including recent travel demand trends and industry-wide margin pressure, We anticipate that first quarter revenue will be between $370 and $380 million, with adjusted EBITDA coming in at $13 to $18 million. As a reminder, the annual reset in payroll taxes compresses margins at the beginning of the calendar year. I want to stress, as we work through the current market climate, we are taking actions to drive organic growth and margin expansion. In addition to ramping recent vendor neutral and MSP wins across acute care and pay settings, we will continue to diversify position staffing into higher margin modalities, as well as seek to capitalize on our growth in education through geographic expansion into even more markets. Additionally, we will remain diligent on the M&A front with a goal to close on several accretive acquisitions that can further enhance our value proposition and diversify our platform into higher margin offerings. Looking ahead, we will continue to balance investments that serve to further diversify and differentiate cross-country with necessary cost savings to preserve profitability, such as leveraging our operations in India. In fact, I just came back from India, where we held our 2024 company-wide kickoff. Coupled with the enhanced productivity and efficiency gains we are seeing through technology investments, I remain confident in our ability to drive long-term, sustainable, profitable growth. And we intend to remain focused on increasing shareholder value by leveraging our balance sheet and through the deployment of capital, including additional share repurchases, ongoing technology investments, and potential M&A opportunities. In closing, we are confident about our prospects for 2024. Outside of the broader pressures in travel, we are seeing strong momentum with Intellify, locums, education, and our home care business. The team continues to execute at a very high level, and none of this is possible without our devoted employees. We were recently named a 2023 winner of Best Company Culture and Best Company for Diversity by Comparably. These recognitions say something about our tapestry of culture that we work so hard to uphold, making cross-country the employer destination of choice. I want to thank all of our employees and our healthcare professionals for your continued hard work and contributions, as well as our shareholders for believing in the company. With that, let me turn the call over to Bill.

Thanks, John, and good afternoon, everyone. As John highlighted, our fourth quarter performance was largely in line with expectations, with revenues slightly exceeding the high end of our guidance range and adjusting EBITDA within our range. The outperformance on revenue was mainly attributed to better-than-expected performance across both education and physician staffing, as well as several million dollars from a labor disruption. Consolidated revenue for the fourth quarter of $414 million was down 6% sequentially and 34% over the prior year, driven by the continued normalization in both travel demand and bill rates. I'll get into more details on the segments in just a couple minutes. Gross profit for the quarter was $91 million, which represented a gross margin of 21.9%. Gross margin was down 10 basis points sequentially and 20 basis points over the prior year due primarily to the tightening of the bill pay spreads for travel assignments and was partly offset by certain burdens like workers' comp and health insurance. Moving down the income statement, selling general and administrative expense was $68 million, down 3% sequentially and 17% over the prior year. The majority of the decrease relates to lower salary and benefit costs associated with our reductions in headcount, as well as lower variable compensation following the historic performance throughout the pandemic. In 2023, we reduced our U.S. headcount by approximately 22%, while continuing to invest in technology and areas of the business with the highest growth potential. Since the start of 2024, we've reduced our headcount by an additional 8%, with plans for further reductions as we proceed throughout the coming year. As we called out, to the extent we are unable to automate processes in the near term, we are seeking to leverage our center of excellence in India to support our shared service teams. Over the last several quarters, we've grown our headcount in India by nearly 30%, and we expect to double that investment in 2024. To just give you some context, for every 100 positions staffed in India, we save approximately $3 million annually. As bill pay spreads remain compressed amidst softer demand, we continue to emphasize the importance of continuous productivity and efficiency gains. We're looking across the entire organization to identify opportunities to drive margins higher and to reduce our overhead, while balancing investments and capacity for future growth. Based on cost actions taken to date, as well as lower compensation associated with a sequential decline in revenue, we anticipate total SG&A will decline in the mid-single digits for the first quarter. As a percent of revenue, SG&A was 16% in the fourth quarter, flat sequentially, and up from 13% in the prior year. Our goal is to exit the year with an SG&A of 15%. through a combination of organic top-line growth, as well as by leveraging our offshore operations, executing targeted cost savings, and the further deployment of technology. For instance, the first phase of our ERP project is set to launch in Q2, and as phases are completed, we should have more opportunities to drive efficiencies. We reported adjusted EBITDA of $21 million, representing an adjusted EBITDA margin of 5%. Though revenue was above the high end of our expectations, our adjusted EBITDA was impacted by an increase in our bad debt expense, One of our MSP clients has fallen behind on payments for services rendered throughout the pandemic, leading to deterioration in the aging that requires to take an additional reserve of $2 million for that specific account. We continue to have ongoing dialogue with the client, and we've negotiated a payment plan that we believe will recover the remainder of the balance in the coming quarters. As revenue with this client has wound down throughout 2023, we do not anticipate a drag on top-line performance in 2024. We'll continue to monitor the situation closely and look forward to provide updates on future calls. Excluding the bad debt charge, we would have reported approximately $23 million in adjusted EBITDA, representing a 6% adjusted EBITDA margin for the quarter. Our goal remains achieving a high single to low double-digit adjusted EBITDA margin, and we continue to believe we can attain it over time. Since we're managing this business towards long-term sustainable profitability, we must continue to make certain investments in our digital platforms, as well as to ensure we have the capacity to be ready to capitalize when the travel market turns. Interest expense in the fourth quarter was $600,000, which was down 12% sequentially and 83% from the prior year. The decline was entirely driven by lower average borrowings throughout the quarter. The majority of the interest expense reported for the fourth quarter was related to the carrying costs for the AVL and fees on our outstanding letters of credit. The effective interest rate on amounts drawn under AVL was 7% as of December 31st. And finally, on the income statement, income tax expense was $4 million, net of some discrete items representing an effective tax rate of 30%, essentially in line with expectations. Our overall performance resulted in adjusted earnings per share of 29 cents near the midpoint of our guidance. Turning to the segments, Nurse and Allied reported revenue of $367 million, down 7% sequentially and 38% from the prior year. Our largest business, Travel Nurse and Allied, was down 12% sequentially and 44% over the prior year. Bill rates for travel were down 4% sequentially, while billable hours were down 8%. Looking to the first quarter, we expect travel to decline sequentially in the low double-digit range, driven primarily by continuous softness in travel demand, with bill rates declining in the low single-digits. After seeing travel orders rise modestly throughout the second half of last year, we've seen another pullback coming into the start of 2024. This seems to be an industry-wide issue across most specialties and geographies, and while orders from existing clients may rebound, we believe that our recent wins will continue to ramp, providing a catalyst to regrow our travelers on assignment. Our local or per diem business continued to feel the impact from the softness in demand, as well as the timing of the holidays. Fourth quarter revenue was down 29% from the prior year, though up about 1% sequentially, due in part to the labor disruption I mentioned earlier. The majority of the year-over-year decline comes from a reduction in billable hours, as rates were down about 2% over the prior year. Also, within the nurse and allied segment, our education business reported 9% year-over-year growth and was up 50% sequentially following the start of the new school year. Finally, physician staffing once again delivered a strong top line, reporting $47 million in revenue, which was up 26% over the prior year and 3% sequentially. The primary driver for the growth was a rise in the number of days filled across specialties such as anesthesiologists, CRNAs, and nurse practitioners, and to a lesser extent, an increase in the average revenue per day filled. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the year with $17 million in cash and no outstanding debt. With the help of our balance sheet and strong cash flow, we remain well positioned to make further investments in technology and accretive acquisitions, as well as to continue repurchasing shares under our $100 million share repurchase plan. From a cash flow perspective, we generated $12 million in cash from operations in the fourth quarter, bringing the full year cash from operations to $249 million today. our strongest year in company history, and driven in large part by collections and reductions in networking capital. DSO was 68 days, down four days since the start of the year. And excluding the impact from the single MSP client I mentioned earlier, our DSO would have been 62 days, much closer to our target. Our goal remains to bring DSO below 60 days, which is more in line with our historic performance before the pandemic, and believe we can get there and make progress to that throughout the coming quarters. Cash used in investing activities was $3 million, primarily reflecting investments in our tech initiatives, such as Intellify, Experience, and our new ERP system. From a financing activity perspective, we repurchased an additional 300,000 shares during the quarter under both our 10B51 and our 10B18 trading plans. And this brings me to our outlook for the first quarter. We're guiding to revenue of between $370 and $380 million, representing a sequential decline of 8% to 11%. driven predominantly by the expected decline in both billable hours and rates for travel. We're guiding to an adjusted EBITDA range of between $13 and $18 million, representing an adjusted EBITDA margin of approximately 4% at the midpoint of guidance. Adjusted earnings per share is expected to be between 15 and 25 cents, based on an average share count of 34 million shares. Also assumed in this guidance is a gross margin of between 21 and 21.5%. Interest expense of $500,000, depreciation and amortization of $5 million, stock comp of $2 million, and an effective tax rate of between 32% and 33%. And that concludes our prepared remarks, and we'd now like to open the lines for questions. Operator?

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1, unmute your phone, and record your name clearly. If you need to withdraw your question, press star 2. Again, to ask a question, please press star 1. Our first question will come from Kevin Fischbeck with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Great. Thanks. So I guess I just wanted to follow up with some of the comments you made about how things will trend throughout the year. I guess you're talking about sequential growth in Q2 in the second half of the year, which I guess means you think that Q2 will be down sequentially versus Q1. Is that the right way to think about it?

Hey, Kevin, it's Bill. We're not giving guidance to Q2 at this point, but based on how we come into the year with demand, it's a possibility that we could see a sequential decline going into the second quarter, but it all depends on how much of that is travel because we're still seeing great growth across other parts of the business. So we're not going to call out Q2 just yet as to whether it's sequentially down or up, but as we look at the back half and as we expect our winds to ramp, that's kind of our lens looking at when we think the travelers on assignment will start to regrow.

John, how's it going? Yeah, Kevin, this is John. I would just add, you're getting a sense now that we're getting back to that cyclical nature of this industry, back to pre-COVID, where you're going to see traditionally a little bit of a dip in Q2 from Q1. But I do think with the recent wins that we've had on the MSP and VMS side, with the diversification of our businesses, as Bill mentioned, and the growth, there's an opportunity to buck that trend in Q2.

Okay, I guess then when you say the second half is going to ramp, then are you assuming then that from an industry perspective, things are going to be flattish and it's your wins that get you to growth? Or is it a combination of the industry starting to pick up again in the back half?

Yeah, you know, I think the way to look at it is as we start looking at, you know, the macro data, right, and looking at you have census and hospitals are still remaining high and increasing. Looking at the Affordable Care Act and seeing that, you know, like we had in 2010, there was 16% of the nation didn't have insurance, and now it's 7%, 7.2% I think the number is. You still have this fundamental shortage of nurses, and we're seeing that demand, we think demand will start to pick up at one point in the year. Now, I wish I had that crystal ball saying, does demand from a market standpoint, start picking up, you know, sometime in the second quarter is the end of the second quarter is in the third quarter, you know, it's hard to forecast when that happens. But what we're confident about is how we're executing on a business, winning more deals. And so part to answer your question is, part of it is yes, we think we can outperform the market based upon the dealer winning based how we're really looking at executing above the market in many of our segments. and then add that to hopefully some market tailwinds, and then we're in a great place. But we do think that we can buck the market trend just on our wins on our MSPs and VMSs.

Kevin, just to add a little more color to that, as you look at the macro conditions in the market, the demand today as a snapshot remains below the pre-pandemic, yet contingent usage by our clients is still higher. So there's some misalignment out there right now that we do think that the demand will rebound. And I'll just give you a little retrospective on 2023. We saw a sharp drop in the first quarter. and it kind of bounced back as we got through the second quarter and then remained steady, probably ticking up throughout the second, third, and fourth quarters. And so this is a pretty significant step down. It doesn't seem to be something that is – that there's a structural change in the market that would have led to that kind of a demand falloff. So it does feel a little bit perhaps of an overcorrection or a timing issue that we think can work its way back.

Okay. And just to make sure I understand how you guys talk about deals, You talked about the expenditure management of 125, and then another couple wins with 75. Are those MSPs? So we should think about those as, like, revenue numbers, or is that a mix of MSPs and VMS, and so it's not necessarily a revenue way to think about it?

Yeah, it's a mix of VMS, you know, vendor-neutral, and MSPs. And, you know, the vendor-neutral side, we're going to capture somewhere in that 30% range. It could be a little bit higher. And on the MSP side, you're going to capture, you know, traditionally we capture somewhere between 65% and 70%.

Okay, great. Thank you.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Brian Tankulat with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Hey, good afternoon, guys. John, you know, one of your comments, you talked about, you know, kind of like keeping market share. And so, just curious, how are you weighing that, you know, balancing market share maintenance and maybe gains versus maintaining the margins? And maybe... A follow-up to that, Bill, you know, where do you think margins eventually shake out, assuming we return to kind of like a normalized level of demand?

Well, Brian, this is John. Yes, the market is going to do what the market's going to do right now. And so that does put margin pressures on us as there is a, as demand softens, right, more people are going after the same jobs. So it does create some bit of a margin pressure. And so, of course, that's how we want to balance making sure that we're competitive in the market, but we also want to maintain our profitability. And so that's when we talk about the balance, and we think we're doing a good job right now at that, and I think that's evidenced by the wins we've had. And we're not – and it's not – we are definitely not buying the business. We're working on good margins. It's just as an industry, the margins are moving down as a whole.

Yeah, Brian, I'll add. I mentioned about how demand has stabilized and then it kind of dropped off. The one interesting note underneath that is that when you look at the open order rates, the bill rates, they've remained eerily steady for quite some time. And this is looking at a subset of where we have some critical mass across ICU and med-surg, the majority of our demand, the large blocks. And you look and see what's happened to the lock rate, the rate of the orders that you're closing on. And what's happening is you're seeing we're starting to see a narrowing in the spread. So in other words, we're having to lock at lower rates, which you're not going to necessarily be able to pay below market on the nurse compensation or the clinician's compensation, in particular because meals, incidentals, and lodging are dictated by the markets they're going to. So you naturally will have some margin compression now. Does that foreshadow a longer tail to the margin compression? I think there's things that the company can certainly do to mitigate that. Number one is we're still migrating Intellify across our managed service program stack. We're about 80% converted. I think there's another million dollars of savings roughly to be garnered from that. And then I think we're growing. Where we are growing is in higher margin businesses. like in the home care and in our education business line. So I think we've got the opportunity to see consolidated margins grow. I don't have a lens as to what happens to the pay bill spreads over time. I would hope that, you know, at some point in the future, we would be able to see some bill rate improvement, but for now, that's certainly not the market conditions we find ourselves in.

I appreciate that. And my follow-up, as I think about locums, right, it seems like you're seeing pretty healthy growth there. What would it take to continue driving that growth or maybe even expand it? Like, Does it have to be acquisition driven or is it contractor or does it take more investment to grow that locums segment?

Yeah, well, we do love the space of locums. And of course, you know, M&A is definitely a part of where we look at our strategy. But we've invested quite a bit of money over the past couple of years in to build the team where it is today. So when you look at contribution income, it's not, it's a little lower than we want it to be right now because that's because we've made the investments. So we feel that there's lots of, we have lots of capacity and ability to ramp this business currently and improve that bottom line margin and increase the business. But when we look at, we're approaching a $200 million company in locums, for us to get to that next level of becoming a half a billion dollars, I think that's going to require acquisitions to get to that level. Got it. Thank you.

Thank you. Next, we will hear from Trevor Romeo with William Blair. You may proceed.

Hi, good evening. Thanks for taking the questions. First one is just kind of on client sentiment regarding contract labor. I think maybe it seems like individual hospitals might be in a variety of different spots in terms of how far they've reduced contract labor spend, some maybe all the way back to pre-pandemic, maybe some aren't. I guess if you could maybe just generalize your client base more broadly? I guess, does it feel like it's kind of tilted one way or the other in terms of being content with current spend rates or wanting to reduce further or any kind of way you could summarize where your clients are at more broadly?

Yeah, let's take a broad, because every client's a little bit different, but let's take a broad view. A broad view is clients, for the most part, what we're seeing, they're content, I say is a good way to put it, with where their labor spend is right now, the number of travelers they have out there. They're looking for ways for us to continue to help them save money, but sometimes it's not through travel. It's through maybe helping them with their core staff. It's helping them with their internal resource pool so we can maximize their internal people, which will, again, take a little bit off of the travel side. But in general, on the broad stroke, I think what we're seeing from our clients is They're fairly content with the number of travelers they have now. I think everyone would like to save a little bit of money, a little bit more, but they also come to the realization that you can only go so far down and that if you want to make sure you have the number of beds open, if you want to make sure you have the right patient-to-nurse ratio, if you want to make sure that you have... the nurses at the bedside taking care of the patients in the community, you need a certain level of travelers. And I think we've kind of hit that point. And I think that's where when we look at saying, you know, when do we see the bottom of this? And we're saying, hey, again, not having that crystal ball, which I wish I had. It's coming sometime in from now to the back half of the year. And then we start seeing that sequential growth. So I think, you know, we're almost there at that point.

Okay, thanks John. That's helpful. And then as you look into Q1, I think the sequential revenue drop you're guiding to is quite a bit below what you typically would see, Q1 over Q4. I think it's also below what maybe some of your competitors might be expecting in Q1 in terms of the sequential change there.

So I'm just wondering if you could maybe try to square those differences at all and speak to maybe your level of conservatism in the guidance.

Yeah, Trevor, I'll try to give you a shot. You know, when you look at the sequential decline that's implied in the guidance, it's almost exclusively on the travel side, right? So we've talked about the fall off in the demand, so we're looking at that to say, you know, how is our net weeks books progressing, and that's our internal metric for how we see the production. One of the things that's interesting is even though the demand is down, we're still booking at a fairly consistent rate overall for the, you know, start of the first quarter. I would not say there's an error of conservatism. I think travel is the one line of business where we have a pretty good lens because of the length of the assignments. And so I think it really is not something that I'm anticipating to see a huge variance to what we've got on the travel side. There is opportunity now, of course. It's the restart of the school year as we come into the winter session or the spring session where you can sometimes see a little bit of an uptick on the education side of the business. But I don't know, John, if you have anything else you want to throw in there.

You know what I'm saying, Trevor, is that I think when you look at, you know, you said, hey, how we compare to our competitors. I think when you look at the growth we had over the last several years in 21 and 22, you know, in 2021, staffing industry analysts is kind of how we kind of judge the market, right, and our growth. The market grew at 105%, and we grew at 100%. And you've got to remember, we were going through our digital transformation. We were really reforming the company and really creating a new roadmap and vision for the company. And that happened in 19 and 20. And then in 21, we go from... you know, nearly beating up the market. And then in 2022, the market grew at 45% and cross-country grew at 67%, clearly beating the market. And if you actually look in at the travel nurse and travel allied in particular, those numbers are actually a higher percentage of growth in 22. And in 23, we're not going to be able to see what staffing industry analyst has where the market has come down to because they report that sometime in the summer. And when we do see that, I'm confident that we're going to show that we once again have outpaced the market even as the market's going down. So, you know, I think that's one area. And the other area we look to are competitors sometimes. We grew so fast in the pandemic in nurse and allied, and they may have been a little bit more diversified, so you're going to see a little bit of difference in that. And the other thing is, I think when you look at those numbers, you have to also look at acquisitions that happen in that time period to make sure you're comparing apples to apples.

Okay. Thanks, John. And then maybe if I could sneak just one more in. I just wanted to follow up on a comment I think you had in the prepared remarks about maybe having a goal to close on some acquisitions this year. Just wondering if you could kind of double click on that and maybe give us an update on what you're seeing in terms of, you know, targets coming to market in the pipeline in your areas of interest.

This is, I think, a buyer's market right now. We're seeing multiples come down. There's companies that, you know, don't want to go through another cycle of this downturn that we've seen in the market over the last, you know, 18 months. And so I think it's a buyer's market right now. And there's opportunities for us. And as we've said before, and I said just earlier, we really love the local space and there's opportunities in local space. The allied space is something that we like. And our education business, which is just doing phenomenally, is on fire. We love that space. And it's a very fragmented space, but we've done a great job of growing that into a fairly sizable business. It's nearly a $100 million business. And I think there's lots of opportunity in the education space to continue to roll up companies into that space and gain some scale in the education space. All right. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Toby Summer with Truist Securities. Your line is open.

Thanks. I know you made some comments about customer retention and market share, but I want to explore that a little bit more because it's a little bit of a challenge externally to take the comment about gross new and telify sales and think about a ramp to maturity and know how to use that as a modeling input. Are you trying to message that the market share you have within existing customers is stable and your income statement is just kind of transmitting trends and demand and pricing?

Yeah, that's correct. And, you know, I think I can kind of give you a little bit of flavor on where we're at on that spend under management. When you look at our spend under management, and that includes the Intellify business, you know, pre-COVID we were somewhere between $400 million to $500 million. And as of December, we were at somewhere between $800 million to $900 million. And now, of course, their bill rates have gone up. But bill rates are up. Bill, what would you say bill rates are up from that period? 25%. Okay, so that period. So you have a 25%, 30% increase in that, but we clearly have nearly double the amount of spend under management. So we are gaining, and that's why we think we're gaining, we feel confident we're gaining market share because of those numbers. Now, look, volumes are definitely up a little bit too, and the market size is a little bit bigger. But on the other side, demand, as Bill called out earlier, on the call, demand is actually lower than pre-COVID right now. And so as we get, and that, the spend of between $800 million to $900 million doesn't account to the ramp-ups of most of that $200 million plus spend on management that is still being ramped up now.

Okay. Do you feel like the GNA is right-sized and appropriate for the 1Q guidance levels, or is it built for a a different level of volume in the business?

Good question, Toby. There's probably two pieces to that. Number one, I mentioned in my prepared remarks we've had about an 8% reduction in headcount since the start of the year. We won't get the full quarter of benefit of that, so just bearing that in mind. There is also some impact on the G&A in the first quarter from the payroll tax reset that we usually bear. It's half a million dollars on that. And then kind of picking up some of the remarks John made, we do maintain extra capacity in the business. If we were to just simply run the numbers, you'd say you could do with fewer headcount, but that's not the place we want to be and we don't want to have to start from ground zero to rebuild the revenue producers that we've brought aboard and trained. And there's still opportunity. The reality is, I mentioned the offshoring of labor to India, As important, we're still working through a lot of different opportunities for automating a lot of our complex processes. The ERP system that we're putting in, the first phase goes live, but most of the benefits of that will be really realized when we get to the second phase, which is in early 2025. So we're not done getting at the costs and the G&A, but for Q1, that's kind of the messaging.

Okay, that's helpful.

Let me see. When you look at the industry, the travel nurse industry as a whole, we're now two years and change of sort of trying to guess when the business may bottom and then finding new lows. How do you think of the industry at this point in capacity within it for the demand that exists today? Is there too much in what may need to happen to reign that capacity in?

Well, I guess, Toby, I'd say that a lot of companies definitely ramped up pretty big, and I think the companies that are support from a third-party perspective, the vendors that don't have the direct client relationships are certainly going to have more capacity, I would imagine, than companies like CrossCountry where you're still winning new direct relationships and MSP relationships.

Yeah, I think that's fair to say, Bill. This is John Tobey. I think that's right, where the companies that are relying on third party are definitely going to feel a bigger decline in their businesses. And as companies like Cross Country win more market share, it's important to know our partner networks. It's interesting. I mentioned earlier we have a capture rate of 65% to 70%. And why that's important to us is we could, and it actually kind of goes to Trevor's question, we could actually increase our capture rate even higher. And we actually would offset maybe the decline in our revenue. But that's not our long-term plan. One of the things that's really important to understand about why our capture rate is between that 65% and 70% is, first and foremost, when we have these clients that we're accountable to, we want to make sure that we're providing the highest quality clinician to the bedside to serve the patients in the communities. And, you know, unfortunately, if you want to increase that capture rate higher than something like 65 or 70, you'd actually have to hold orders potentially. And that could affect that patient delivery. And that's something we would never do across country. And then secondly, and I've called this out on calls before, is we want to make sure that we have excess capacity to win deals. And I think over the last six months, we've certainly proven that in the wins that we've had is because we have the excess capacity, we're able to win these deals. And then the third part of why we want to keep that capture rate in that 65% to 70% is we want to make sure that We're allowing our partner networks and these sub-vendors, and these are the companies that rely on the third-party business. We want them to think of cross-country as their first choice, and we want to make sure that as we're starting to win more deals, they're there to support our deals so that we're keeping our clients very satisfied and happy.

Last thing from you, if I can speak one in. Could you talk about the market trend in MSP and VMS fees on subcontractors now that, you know, not only have you been in MSP in the marketplace for a long time, but now that you've got Intellify out there, are fees to subcontractors changing at all?

Yeah, look, we've seen over the years, I think, you know, from 2009 to way too long, periodically fees go up, and as cost pressures happen in competitive bids, what happens is we're seeing a lot more companies go out there and offer more services and offerings to clients to win their business, and those costs have to come and be passed along to the sub-vendors. So we are seeing an increase across the industry of those fees going up. But like I said, I started this industry in 2005. And every several years, you see this industry grow up. I think when I first started, the average rate, I think the average fee was, I think, 3% in 2004. And so over time, inflation, you have more services going to clients. They end up costing fees. And when you get, as I mentioned, when you're getting more and more competitors and you're seeing more and more companies trying to get into the MSP and VMS space, They're all offering more and more, what's the right word, services and offerings that make it more competitive that increase the cost of running and managing an MSP and BMS service. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Our next question will come from Constantine DeVitas with Citizens JMP. Your line is open.

Hey, Bill, just... On the labor disruption front, you called that out. I think you said a few million. Just wondering if you can put a finer point on that. And then do you have any visibility to anything disruption-related that's going to impact the first quarter?

Sure, Constantine. It was between $3 and $4 million that we got within the quarter from labor disruption, so it really wasn't that significant. And as far as having a line of sight to Q1 labor disruptions, no. I mean, Mark's here. I don't think we have any Demand right now, Mark, is that correct? Yeah, that's correct.

Great. And then, John, I think you mentioned 2023 tech spend of about $20 million. I just want to clarify, is that both expensed and capitalized? And I was wondering if you guys could give us some sense for what that spend is going to look like in 2024 on the technology front and where it's being directed.

Sure, Constantine, it's Bill again. That's correct. The number that John referenced is the combined spend across the project, so that's capitalized and what's been run through operating expense, as well as what gets deferred. So, you know, in cloud computing, it doesn't all go on the investing activities on your statement of cash flow. Some of it is hung up in prepaids and will come back in an amortization once the project's alive. But by and large, the $20-odd million is what we spent across all those projects. And for 2024, We're anticipating spending a very similar amount.

Great. And then last one from me. Where are you guys in the migration of the MSPs over to Intellify? I remember you sort of paused that at some point last year. Just wondering if you can give us an update there. Thanks.

Absolutely. Yeah, I mentioned a little earlier in the Q&A that we've seen about 80% of our programs are now on Intellify. We've got a handful left that will go over the first or second quarter. I think we've got two or three in Q1 and two or three in Q2. So we're nearly there.

Yeah, and it's interesting on that is that a lot of times it's not because of we don't want to put it there. It's really competing priorities at hospitals. And so... You know, as Bill mentioned, we would have been there earlier. It's just matching up sometimes with the hospital and getting them set. But right now, we have the roadmap to get there, to get it pretty complete pretty soon at this point. Yeah. So, yeah, as Bill said, before the end of the first half, we should be at 100%. Great.

Thank you.

Thank you. And once again, if you would like to ask a question at this time, you can press star 1 and record your name when prompted. Our next question comes from Kevin Steinke with Barrington Research. You may go ahead.

Hey, good afternoon. I believe you made a comment in your prepared remarks about margin expansion as you move through 2024. Is that correct? And if so, is that tied to just the ramp up of your Intellify business? Or, you know, are you also anticipating maybe some improvement in market conditions potentially contributing.

Hey, Kevin, this is Bill. I guess I'd say we're looking at Q1 obviously being the softest quarter. We've got a number of reasons for that, not realizing the full cost savings, the fact that there's a payroll tax reset. As we progress throughout the year, we're going to continue to expect to see growth across the higher margin businesses like education. Home care in particular has a number of programs, high single digit number of new programs that are ramping and We'll go live in the next few months. So there's opportunities to see the top line grow. I think as those businesses kind of recover, we'll see gross profit and gross margin start to rebound. I'm not making any calls right now on the bill pay spread for travel. I think, you know, we're still in a very tough market, but that's an opportunity, I think, as we move ahead. The Intellify conversions, once we complete those, that's going to add, you know, a little over seven figures of opportunity of savings annualized. for us to see that'll contribute to our bottom line. And then finally, there's continuing to look at the opportunities for cost savings, right? So we've got the work that we're moving overseas and we've got a very concerted effort, a very large program effort right now going across all of our teams to look and see what efforts we have that, can we first automate? And John made some comments about some of the things we're doing there and the prepared remarks, but if we're unable to automate and it's going to be a stable process, we'd like to look at moving that to where we can do it for the most cost-effective way. So I think that's a piece of it. And then we're still working through all the things that will give us the opportunities to be more efficient, even from our back office. We've had projects that we've been working on over the last year, many of which have been going live throughout the fourth quarter and into the first quarter. So I anticipate that we'll still see even improvements across the shared services teams.

Okay. And is... You referenced you think revenue could ramp sequentially in the second half of 2024. And with all those various actions and initiatives you just discussed, do you think that high single-digit adjusted EBITDA margin would be reasonable as we move towards the back half of the year?

Yeah, I mean, I think, look, that's certainly our goal. And I made the remark in my prepared remarks that we're targeting to exit the year with SG&A at 15% on revenue. So, you know, if you look and see where does that, where do you think gross profit or gross margin can be by the fourth quarter, you can start to back into what that could look like. But, yeah, something in that high single would be our goal to exit the year.

Okay. Well, thanks for taking the questions. Sure.

Thank you. And our last question will come from Bill Sutherland with the Benchmark Company, LLC. You may proceed.

Thank you. Hey, guys. John, I was thinking about the, you know, one artifact of COVID, I think, was a lot of the typical contracting cycles for MSPs got pushed out. So there's been like a bunch up this year or last year and maybe this year that I've heard. is occurring in the industry. And I'm just wondering kind of what your contract cycle looks like right now as you look at your book in both MSP and BMS.

Hey, Bill. Yes. Well, our cycle was heavier in 22 and 23 where we had more contracts up. And I think as we've all called out, that was because of COVID that people kind of held back and waited to go out to market after COVID hit. or what was perceived after COVID in 22. So we saw a higher number of our clients go out in 22 and 23. This year, it's definitely lower and less than last year. I think we may see more of the typical cycle of somewhere between 20%, 25% go out this year. And it varies, right? There's ones that are competitive. bids that our competitors are going in and getting involved in a competitive bake-off, if you will. And there's other ones that are renewals that are evergreen contracts that come up every year that the client's really not looking to go out to market. And those are the renewals that just come automatically. And of course, you still have to make sure you're doing a great job with the client, giving the service that they need and providing the needs that they have and filling the needs they have. But there's a couple different categories. But to answer your question, this will be a lower year in the total number of renewals we have in the last two years.

Got it. And I'm going to wrap up with a real quick number question, Bill. Just curious, what is the headcount in India? Because you talked about increasing it this quarter, I think, or first half?

Yeah, we haven't, to my knowledge, given the specific India headcount out, but it's a couple few hundred. So it's between 200 and 300 and ramping quickly. Now, we've got about Today, probably half of the headcount is supporting our IT operation and half of the headcount is supporting our shared services, maybe a little bit more like 60-40 operations versus IT. But we've been doing a lot of development work out of our India office, and so that's part of what we're going to continue to invest in. But the main driver of the growth is going to be on the operational side of the business. And that's where we're going to be. When I say doubling the headcount, the doubling is the total headcount, but it's going to be predominantly on the operations side, so more of the investments for the operations.

And I think it's important to note on that India office that we have overseas, that office has been around for the cross-country for 18 years. It's a longstanding company that we've had there. Great partnership, great leadership there. As I mentioned in my prayer remarks, I was just there two weeks ago to do our company-wide kickoff from India to all of our offices. And I can tell you the talent that we have over there is just incredible. And they're ready to take on more and more of these services coming over. And we're really excited about this opportunity. great culture that we've created between the U.S. and India and truly this real partnership we have with our organization over there.

Perfect. Thanks, guys.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude the Q&A period. I'll now turn it back over to John Martins for closing remarks.

Thank you. In closing, I'd like to thank everyone for participating in today's call, and we look forward to updating you on the progress of the company on our next call in May.

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect. you Thank you Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Cross Country Healthcare's earnings conference call for the fourth quarter 2023. Please be advised that this call is being recorded and a replay of this webcast will be available on the company's website. Details for accessing the audio replay can be found in the company's earnings release issued this afternoon. At the conclusion of the prepared remarks, I will open the lines for questions. I would now like to turn the call over to Josh Vogel, Cross Country Healthcare's Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you, and please go ahead, sir.

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm joined today by our President and Chief Executive Officer, John Martins, as well as Bill Burns, our Chief Financial Officer, and Mark Krug, Group President of Delivery. Today's call will include a discussion of our financial results for the fourth quarter and full year of 2023, as well as our outlook for the first quarter of 2024. A copy of our earnings press release is available on our website at crosscountry.com. Please note that certain statements made on this call may constitute forward-looking statements. These statements reflect the company's beliefs based upon information currently available to it. As noted in our press release, forward-looking statements can vary materially from actual results and are subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors, including those contained in the company's 2022 annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Forms 10-Q, as well as in other filings with the SEC. The company does not intend to update guidance or any of its forward-looking statements prior to the next earnings release. Additionally, we reference non-GAAP financial measures, such as adjusted EBITDA or adjusted earnings per share, Such non-GAAP financial measures are provided as additional information and should not be considered substitutes for or superior to those calculated in accordance with U.S. GAAP. More information related to these non-GAAP financial measures is contained in our press release. Also during this call, we may refer to pro forma when normalized numbers pertain to our most recent acquisitions as though the results were included or excluded from the periods presented. With that, I will now turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, John Martins. Thanks, Josh.

and thank you everyone for joining us this afternoon. Overall, I was pleased with our fourth quarter and full year 2023 results, and particularly in how we have responded to the challenging marketing additions in our nurse and allied segments as health systems seek ways to reduce their reliance on contingent labor. After declining in the first half of 2023, travel demand remained fairly stable, However, coming into the new year, we are seeing another pullback in orders, which appears to be industry-wide across most specialties and geographies. Many systems are nonetheless seeing increases in volumes, which we believe will ultimately translate into rising demand for our services. And with our focus on innovation and operational excellence, as well as the health of our balance sheet, cross-country is well-positioned to weather these near-term headwinds and we believe we are poised to see sequential growth in the back half of the coming year. Now I'd like to take a moment to reflect on our full year performance. We generated $144 million of adjusted EBITDA, our second best year in company history, following the record year in 2022. We also had a record year for cash flow from operations, generating $249 million, which enabled us to end the year with a strong debt-free balance sheet. In addition, we invested more than $20 million on technology initiatives and repurchased 2.3 million shares of stock, representing approximately 6% of our outstanding shares this year. Perhaps the most noteworthy accomplishment from 2023 was the rollout of our vendor management system in Telify. This VMS technology amplifies and enhances productivity by more effectively managing, deploying, and anticipating workforce needs for our clients. Throughout the year, we witnessed the level of interest in this technology grow, leading to a series of wins that exceeded internal targets. In fact, two fairly sizable deals that we closed early in the fourth quarter were fully implemented before year end. demonstrating the speed at which we can deploy this technology. In addition to our client-facing Intellify offering, we rebranded our Experience app last year, which is a candidate-facing tool that enables clinicians with the power to manage their careers anytime, anyplace they want. Equally exciting, Experience is on our roadmap to be fully integrated into Intellify. Unlike conventional job matching, Experience ensures a precise alignment of clinicians with roles that uniquely match their skills and aspirations. In 2023, we had more than 18,000 app downloads and over 100,000 unique viewers that accessed experience through our mobile app and website. And finally, we launched Data Aggregation Services, or DASP, which offers unique insights on bill rate trends that help hospitals validate their costs by providing real-time benchmarking and visibility. From an MSP and vendor-neutral sales perspective, 2023 was a very active year in our industry. And though we experienced a higher level of attrition in the earlier part of the year, we left 2023 on a very positive trajectory from both a retention and new client perspective as well as having a robust pipeline. The annualized spend under management from our recent wins is estimated to be over $125 million when fully ramped. And since late December, we've had two more wins, including one verbal, with total estimated annual spend of more than $75 million. We believe that these and other wins we expect to close throughout the year will provide some tailwinds in the second half of the coming year. It's also interesting to note that we have seen a more balanced interest from hospital systems between MSP and vendor-neutral programs, and we are strategically positioned to capitalize and grow share on both these fronts. Our focus for 2024 is on continuing to expand our client base and growing our relationships with existing clients through an expansion of services, And though we are always focused on driving efficiency, our plans for the coming year include leveraging both our offshore operations as well as continuing to invest in cutting-edge technologies such as AI agents and robotic process automation. These efforts will allow us to lower costs, enhance predictive job matching, improve talent sourcing, and assess candidate suitability. I look forward to sharing our progress on these and many other initiatives on future calls. Turning to the quarter, consolidated revenue was $414 million, which is above the high end of our guidance range. And though adjusted EBITDA of $21 million was within our guidance range, it would have been even higher had it not been for a charge to allowance for doubtful accounts, which Bill will cover in more detail. As expected, Travel revenue in the fourth quarter was down 12% sequentially, on track with our expectations for both rates and volumes. Looking ahead, travel bill rates continue to stabilize and are trending in line with expectations. As we've called out previously, there remains a gap in expectations around bill rates with clients and pay rates from clinicians on many orders, impacting both our fill rate as well as our margins. As we navigate this dynamic, we will remain competitive in order to preserve our market share while balancing overall profitability. Turning to our other business lines, position staffing continued its strong performance with reported fourth quarter revenue of 26% year over year, quickly approaching an annual run rate of $200 million. Driving this was a combination of higher billable days and an improved mix of higher bill rate specialties. The segment's contribution to income reflects the ongoing investments we are making in the business that we believe will drive organic growth and margin expansion throughout 2024. Our education business continued to perform well, up 9% from the prior year and more than 50% from the third quarter following the start of the new school year. Our home care business was flat sequentially and year over year. though we exited the year on a solid trajectory. As we reported last quarter, we had five home care MSP wins and presently have nine programs in implementation. On the backs of these wins, I believe this business will experience strong organic growth in 2024. Now, turning to our outlook for the first quarter, given my earlier comments on the current market backdrop, including recent travel demand trends and industry-wide margin pressure, We anticipate that first quarter revenue will be between $370 and $380 million, with adjusted EBITDA coming in at $13 to $18 million. As a reminder, the annual reset in payroll taxes compresses margins at the beginning of the calendar year. I want to stress, as we work through the current market climate, we are taking actions to drive organic growth and margin expansion. In addition to ramping recent vendor neutral and MSP wins across acute care and pay settings, we will continue to diversify position staffing into higher margin modalities, as well as seek to capitalize on our growth in education through geographic expansion into even more markets. Additionally, we will remain diligent on the M&A front with a goal to close on several accretive acquisitions that can further enhance our value proposition and diversify our platform into higher margin offerings. Looking ahead, we will continue to balance investments that serve to further diversify and differentiate cross-country with necessary cost savings to preserve profitability, such as leveraging our operations in India. In fact, I just came back from India where we held our 2024 company-wide kickoff. Coupled with the enhanced productivity and efficiency gains we are seeing through technology investments, I remain confident in our ability to drive long-term, sustainable, profitable growth. And we intend to remain focused on increasing shareholder value by leveraging our balance sheet and through the deployment of capital, including additional share repurchases, ongoing technology investments, and potential M&A opportunities. In closing, we are confident about our prospects for 2024. Outside of the broader pressures in travel, we are seeing strong momentum with Intellify, locums, education, and our home care business. The team continues to execute at a very high level, and none of this is possible without our devoted employees. We were recently named a 2023 winner of Best Company Culture and Best Company for Diversity by Comparably. These recognitions say something about our tapestry of culture that we worked so hard to uphold, making cross-country the employer destination of choice. I want to thank all of our employees and our healthcare professionals for your continued hard work and contributions, as well as our shareholders for believing in the company. With that, let me turn the call over to Bill.

Thanks, John, and good afternoon, everyone. As John highlighted, our fourth quarter performance was largely in line with expectations, with revenues slightly exceeding the high end of our guidance range and adjusting EBITDA within our range. The outperformance on revenue was mainly attributed to better-than-expected performance across both education and physician staffing, as well as several million dollars from a labor disruption. Consolidated revenue for the fourth quarter of $414 million was down 6% sequentially and 34% over the prior year, driven by the continued normalization in both travel demand and bill rates. I'll get into more details on the segments in just a couple minutes. Gross profit for the quarter was $91 million, which represented a gross margin of 21.9%. Gross margin was down 10 basis points sequentially and 20 basis points over the prior year due primarily to the tightening of the bill pay spreads for travel assignments and was partly offset by certain burdens like workers' comp and health insurance. Moving down the income statement, selling general and administrative expense was $68 million, down 3% sequentially and 17% over the prior year. The majority of the decrease relates to lower salary and benefit costs associated with our reductions in headcount, as well as lower variable compensation following the historic performance throughout the pandemic. In 2023, we reduced our U.S. headcount by approximately 22%, while continuing to invest in technology and areas of the business with the highest growth potential. Since the start of 2024, we have reduced our headcount by an additional 8%, with plans for further reductions as we proceed throughout the coming year. As we called out, to the extent we are unable to automate processes in the near term, we are seeking to leverage our center of excellence in India to support our shared service teams. Over the last several quarters, we've grown our headcount in India by nearly 30%, and we expect to double that investment in 2024. To just give you some context, for every 100 positions staffed in India, we save approximately $3 million annually. As bill pay spreads remain compressed amidst softer demand, we continue to emphasize the importance of continuous productivity and efficiency gains. We're looking across the entire organization to identify opportunities to drive margins higher and to reduce our overhead, while balancing investments and capacity for future growth. Based on cost actions taken to date, as well as lower compensation associated with a sequential decline in revenue, we anticipate total SG&A will decline in the mid-single digits for the first quarter. As a percent of revenue, SG&A was 16% in the fourth quarter, flat sequentially, and up from 13% in the prior year. Our goal is to exit the year with an SG&A of 15%. through a combination of organic top-line growth, as well as by leveraging our offshore operations, executing targeted cost savings, and the further deployment of technology. For instance, the first phase of our ERP project is set to launch in Q2, and as phases are completed, we should have more opportunities to drive efficiencies. We reported adjusted EBITDA of $21 million, representing an adjusted EBITDA margin of 5%. Though revenue was above the high end of our expectations, our adjusted EBITDA was impacted by an increase in our bad debt expense, One of our MSP clients has fallen behind on payments for services rendered throughout the pandemic, leading to deterioration in the aging that requires to take an additional reserve of $2 million for that specific account. We continue to have ongoing dialogue with the client, and we've negotiated a payment plan that we believe will recover the remainder of the balance in the coming quarters. As revenue with this client has wound down throughout 2023, we do not anticipate a drag on top-line performance in 2024. We'll continue to monitor the situation closely and look forward to provide updates on future calls. Excluding the bad debt charge, we would have reported approximately $23 million in adjusted EBITDA, representing a 6% adjusted EBITDA margin for the quarter. Our goal remains achieving a high single to low double-digit adjusted EBITDA margin, and we continue to believe we can attain it over time. Since we're managing this business towards long-term sustainable profitability, we must continue to make certain investments in our digital platforms, as well as to ensure we have the capacity to be ready to capitalize when the travel market turns. Interest expense in the fourth quarter was $600,000, which was down 12% sequentially and 83% from the prior year. The decline was entirely driven by lower average borrowings throughout the quarter. The majority of the interest expense reported for the fourth quarter was related to the carrying costs for the AVL and fees on our outstanding letters of credit. The effective interest rate on amounts drawn under AVL was 7% as of December 31st. And finally, on the income statement, income tax expense was $4 million, net of some discrete items representing an effective tax rate of 30%, essentially in line with expectations. Our overall performance resulted in adjusted earnings per share of 29 cents near the midpoint of our guidance. Turning to the segments, Nurse and Allied reported revenue of $367 million, down 7% sequentially and 38% from the prior year. Our largest business, Travel Nurse and Allied, was down 12% sequentially and 44% over the prior year. Bill rates for travel were down 4% sequentially, while billable hours were down 8%. Looking to the first quarter, we expect travel to decline sequentially in the low double-digit range, driven primarily by continuous softness in travel demand, with bill rates declining in the low single-digits. After seeing travel orders rise modestly throughout the second half of last year, we've seen another pullback coming into the start of 2024. This seems to be an industry-wide issue across most specialties and geographies, and while orders from existing clients may rebound, we believe that our recent wins will continue to ramp, providing a catalyst to regrow our travelers on assignment. Our local or per diem business continued to feel the impact from the softness in demand, as well as the timing of the holidays. Fourth quarter revenue was down 29% from the prior year, though up about 1% sequentially, due in part to the labor disruption I mentioned earlier. The majority of the year-over-year decline comes from a reduction in billable hours, as rates were down about 2% over the prior year. Also, within the nurse and allied segment, our education business reported 9% year-over-year growth and was up 50% sequentially following the start of the new school year. Finally, physician staffing once again delivered a strong top line, reporting $47 million in revenue, which was up 26% over the prior year and 3% sequentially. The primary driver for the growth was a rise in the number of days filled across specialties such as anesthesiologists, CRNAs, and nurse practitioners, and to a lesser extent, an increase in the average revenue per day filled. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the year with $17 million in cash and no outstanding debt. With the help of our balance sheet and strong cash flow, we remain well positioned to make further investments in technology and accretive acquisitions, as well as to continue repurchasing shares under our $100 million share repurchase plan. From a cash flow perspective, we generated $12 million in cash from operations in the fourth quarter, bringing the full year cash from operations to $249 million, our strongest year in company history. and driven in large part by collections and reductions in networking capital. DSO was 68 days, down four days since the start of the year. And excluding the impact from the single MSP client I mentioned earlier, a DSO would have been 62 days, much closer to our target. Our goal remains to bring DSO below 60 days, which is more in line with our historic performance before the pandemic, and believe we can get there and make progress to that throughout the coming quarters. Cash used in investing activities was $3 million, primarily reflecting investments in our tech initiatives, such as Intellify, Experience, and our new ERP system. From a financing activity perspective, we repurchased an additional 300,000 shares during the quarter under both our 10B51 and our 10B18 trading plans. And this brings me to our outlook for the first quarter. We're guiding to revenue of between $370 and $380 million, representing a sequential decline of 8% to 11%. driven predominantly by the expected decline in both billable hours and rates for travel. We're guiding to an adjusted EBITDA range of between $13 and $18 million, representing an adjusted EBITDA margin of approximately 4% at the midpoint of guidance. Adjusted earnings per share is expected to be between $0.15 and $0.25, based on an average share count of 34 million shares. Also assumed in this guidance is a gross margin of between 21 and 21.5%. Interest expense of $500,000, depreciation and amortization of $5 million, stock comp of $2 million, and an effective tax rate of between 32% and 33%. And that concludes our prepared remarks, and we'd now like to open the lines for questions. Operator?

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1, unmute your phone, and record your name clearly. If you need to withdraw your question, press star 2. Again, to ask a question, please press star 1. Our first question will come from Kevin Fischbeck with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Great. Thanks. So I guess I just wanted to follow up with some of the comments you made about how things will trend throughout the year. I guess you're talking about sequential growth in Q2 in the second half of the year, which I guess means you think that Q2 will be down sequentially versus Q1. Is that the right way to think about it?

Hey, Kevin, it's Bill. We're not giving guidance to Q2 at this point, but based on how we come into the year with demand, it's a possibility that we could see a sequential decline going into the second quarter, but it all depends on how much of that is travel because we're still seeing great growth across other parts of the business. So we're not going to call out Q2 just yet as to whether it's sequentially down or up, but as we look at the back half and as we expect our winds to ramp, that's kind of our lens looking at when we think the travelers on assignment will start to regrow. John, how's it going?

Yeah, Kevin, this is John. I would just add, you're getting a sense now that we're getting back to that cyclical nature of this industry, back to pre-COVID, where you're going to see traditionally a little bit of a dip in Q2 from Q1. But I do think with the recent wins that we've had on the MSP and VMS side, with the diversification of our businesses, as Bill mentioned, and the growth, there's an opportunity to buck that trend in Q2.

Okay, I guess then when you say the second half is going to ramp, then are you assuming then that from an industry perspective, things are going to be flattish and it's your wins that get you to growth? Or is it a combination of the industry starting to pick up again in the back half?

Yeah, you know, I think the way to look at it is as we start looking at, you know, the macro data, right, and looking at you have census and hospitals are still remaining high and increasing. Looking at the Affordable Care Act and seeing that, you know, like we had in 2010, there was 16% of the nation didn't have insurance, and now it's 7%, 7.2% I think the number is. You still have this fundamental shortage of nurses, and we're seeing that demand, we think demand will start to pick up at one point in the year. Now, I wish I had that crystal ball saying, does demand from a market standpoint start picking up sometime in the second quarter, is it the end of the second quarter, is it in the third quarter? It's hard to forecast when that happens, but what we're confident about is how we're executing on a business, winning more deals, and so part, to answer your question is, part of it is yes, we think we can outperform the market based upon the dealer winning, based how we're really looking at executing above the market in many of our segments. and then add that to hopefully some market tailwinds, and then we're in a great place. But we do think that we can buck the market trend just on our wins on our MSPs and VMSs.

And Kevin, just to add a little more color to that, as you look at the macro conditions in the market, the demand today as a snapshot remains below the pre-pandemic, yet contingent usage by our clients is still higher. So there's some misalignment out there right now that we do think that the demand will rebound. And I'll just give you a little retrospective on 2023. We saw a sharp drop in the first quarter. and it kind of bounced back as we got through the second quarter and then remained steady, probably ticking up throughout the second, third, and fourth quarters. And so this is a pretty significant step down. It doesn't seem to be something that is – that there's a structural change in the market that would have led to that kind of a demand falloff. So it does feel a little bit perhaps of an overcorrection or a timing issue that we think can work its way back.

Okay. And just to make sure I understand how you guys talk about deals, You talked about the expenditure management of 125, and then another couple wins with 75. Are those MSPs? So we should think about those as, like, revenue numbers, or is that a mix of MSPs and VMS, and so it's not necessarily a revenue way to think about it?

Yeah, it's a mix of VMS, you know, vendor neutral, and MSPs. And, you know, the vendor neutral side, we're going to capture somewhere in that 30% range. It could be a little bit higher. And on the MSP side, you're going to capture, you know, traditionally we capture somewhere between 65% and 70%.

Okay, great. Thank you.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Brian Tankulat with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Hey, good afternoon, guys. John, you know, one of your comments, you talked about, you know, kind of like keeping market share. And so, just curious, how are you weighing that, you know, balancing market share maintenance and maybe gains versus maintaining the margins? And maybe... A follow-up to that, Bill, you know, where do you think margins eventually shake out, assuming we return to kind of like a normalized level of demand?

Hey, Brian, this is John. Yes, the market is going to do what the market's going to do right now. And so that does put margin pressures on us as there is a, as demand softens, right, more people are going after the same jobs. So it does create some bit of a margin pressure. And so, of course, that's how we want to balance making sure that we're competitive in the market, but we also want to maintain our profitability. And so that's when we talk about the balance. And we think we're doing a good job right now at that. And I think that's evidenced by the wins we've had. And we're not, and it's not, we are definitely not buying the business. We're working on good margins. It's just as an industry, the margins are moving down as a whole.

Yeah, Brian, I'll just, I'll add, you know, I mentioned about how demand is stabilized and then it kind of dropped off. The one interesting note underneath that is that when you look at the open order rates, the bill rates, they've remained eerily steady for quite some time. And this is looking at a subset of where we have, you know, some critical mass across ICU and med-surg, the majority of our demand, you know, large blocks. And you look and see what's happened to the lock rate, the rate of the orders that you're closing on. And what's happening is you're seeing, we're starting to see a narrowing in the spread. So in other words, we're having to lock at lower rates, which you're not going to necessarily be able to pay below market on the nurse compensation or the clinician's compensation, in particular because meals and tentacles and lodging are dictated by the markets they're going to. So you naturally will have some margin compression now. Does that foreshadow a longer tail to the margin compression? I think there's things that the company can certainly do to mitigate that. Number one is we're still migrating Intellify across our managed service program stack. We're about 80% converted. I think there's another million dollars of savings roughly to be garnered from that. And then I think we're growing. Where we are growing is in higher margin businesses. like in the home care and in our education business line. So I think we've got the opportunity to see consolidated margins grow. I don't have a lens as to what happens to the pay bill spreads over time. I would hope that, you know, at some point in the future, we would be able to see some bill rate improvement. But for now, that's certainly not the market conditions we find ourselves in.

I appreciate it. And my follow-up, as I think about locums, right, it seems like you're seeing pretty healthy growth there. What would it take to continue driving that growth or maybe even expand it? Like, Does it have to be acquisition-driven, or is it contractor, or does it take more investment to grow that locums segment?

Yeah, well, we do love the space of locums. And, of course, M&A is definitely a part of where we look at our strategy. But we've invested quite a bit of money over the past couple of years in to build the team where it is today. So when you look at contribution income, it's a little lower than we want it to be right now because that's because we've made the investments. So we feel that we have lots of capacity and ability to ramp this business currently and improve that bottom line margin and increase the business. But when we look at we're approaching a $200 million company in locums, for us to get to that next level of becoming a half a billion dollars, I think that's going to require acquisitions to get to that level. Got it. Thank you.

Thank you. Next, we will hear from Trevor Romeo with William Blair. You may proceed.

Hi, good evening. Thanks for taking the questions. First one is just kind of on client sentiment regarding contract labor. I think maybe it seems like individual hospitals might be in a variety of different spots in terms of how far they've reduced contract labor spend, some maybe all the way back to pre-pandemic, maybe some aren't. I guess if you could maybe just generalize your client base more broadly? I guess, does it feel like it's kind of tilted one way or the other in terms of being content with current spend rates or wanting to reduce further or any kind of way you could summarize where your clients are at more broadly?

Yeah, let's take a broad, because every client's a little bit different, but let's take a broad view. A broad view is clients, for the most part, what we're seeing, they're content, I say is a good way to put it, with where their labor spend is right now, the number of travelers they have out there. They're looking for ways for us to continue to help them save money, but sometimes it's not through travel. It's through maybe helping them with their core staff. It's helping them with their internal resource pool so we can maximize their internal people, which will, again, take a little bit off of the travel side. But in general, on the broad stroke, I think what we're seeing from our clients is they're fairly content with the number of travelers they have now. I think everyone would like to save a little bit of money, a little bit more, but they also come to the realization that you can only go so far down and that if you want to make sure you have the number of beds open, if you want to make sure you have the right patient-to-nurse ratio, if you want to make sure that you have the nurses at the bedside taking care of the patients in the community, you need a certain level of travelers. And I think we've kind of hit that point. And I think that's where when we look at saying, you know, when do we see the bottom of this? And we're saying, hey, again, not having that crystal ball, which I wish I had. It's coming sometime in from now to the back half of the year. And then we start seeing that sequential growth. So I think, you know, we're almost there at that point. Okay, thanks John.

That's helpful. And then as you look into Q1, I think the sequential revenue drop you're guiding to is quite a bit below what you typically would see, Q1 over Q4. I think it's also below what maybe some of your competitors might be expecting in Q1 in terms of the sequential change there.

So I'm just wondering if you could maybe try to square those differences at all and speak to maybe your level of conservatism in the guidance.

Yeah, Trevor, I'll try to give you a shot. You know, when you look at the sequential decline that's implied in the guidance, it's almost exclusively on the travel side, right? So we've talked about the fall off in the demand, so we're looking at that to say, you know, how is our net weeks books progressing, and that's our internal metric for how we see the production. One of the things that's interesting is even though the demand is down, we're still booking at a fairly consistent rate overall for the, you know, start of the first quarter. I would not say there's an error of conservatism. I think travel is the one line of business where we have a pretty good lens because of the length of the assignments. And so I think it really is not something that I'm anticipating to see a huge variance to what we've got on the travel side. There is opportunity now, of course. It's the restart of the school year as we come into the winter session or the spring session where you can sometimes see a little bit of an uptick on the education side of the business. But I don't know, John, if you have anything else you want to throw in there.

You know what I'm saying, Trevor, is that I think when you look at, you know, you said, hey, how we compare to our competitors. I think when you look at the growth we had over the last several years in 21 and 22, you know, in 2021, staffing industry analysts is kind of how we kind of judge the market, right, and our growth. The market grew at 105%, and we grew at 100%. And you've got to remember, we were going through our digital transformation. We were really reforming the company and really creating a new roadmap and vision for the company. And that happened in 19 and 20. And then in 21, we go from... nearly beating up the market. And then in 2022, the market grew at 45%, and cross-country grew at 67%, clearly beating the market. And if you actually look in at the travel nurse and travel allied in particular, those numbers are actually a higher percentage of growth in 2022. And in 23, we're not going to be able to see what Staff Energy Analyst has, where the market has come down to, because they report that sometime in the summer. And when we do see that, I'm confident that we're going to show that we once again have outpaced the market, even as the market's going down. So, you know, I think that's one area. And the other area we look to are competitors sometimes. We grew so fast in the pandemic in nurse and allied, and they may have been a little bit more diversified, so you're going to see a little bit of difference in that. And the other thing is, I think when you look at those numbers, you have to also look at acquisitions that happen in that time period to make sure you're comparing apples to apples.

Okay. Thanks, John. And then maybe if I could sneak just one more in. I just wanted to follow up on a comment I think you had in the prepared remarks about maybe having a goal to close on some acquisitions this year. Just wondering if you could kind of double-click on that and maybe give us an update on what you're seeing in terms of targets coming to market and the pipeline in your areas of interest.

This is, I think, a buyer's market right now. We're seeing multiples come down. There's companies that don't want to go through another cycle of this downturn that we've seen in the market over the last 18 months. And so I think it's a buyer's market right now. And there's opportunities for us. And as we've said before, and I said just earlier, we really love the local space and there's opportunities in local space. The allied space is something that we like. And our education business, which is just doing phenomenally, is on fire. We love that space. And it's a very fragmented space, but we've done a great job of growing that into a fairly sizable business. It's nearly a $100 million business. And I think there's lots of opportunity in the education space to continue to roll up companies into that space and gain some scale in the education space. All right. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Toby Summer with Truist Securities. Your line is open.

Thanks. I know you made some comments about customer retention and market share, but I want to explore that a little bit more if you could. Because it's a little bit of a challenge externally to take the comment about gross new and telify sales and think about a ramp to maturity and know how to use that as a modeling input. Are you trying to message that the market share you have within existing customers is stable and your income statement is just kind of transmitting trends and demand and pricing?

Yeah, that's correct. And I think I can kind of give you a little bit of flavor on where we're at on that spend under management. When you look at our spend under management, and that includes the Intellify business, Pre-COVID, we were somewhere between $400 million to $500 million. And as of December, we were at somewhere between $800 million to $900 million. And now, of course, their bill rates have gone up. But bill rates are up. Bill, what would you say bill rates are up from that period? 25%. Okay, so that period. So you have a 25%, 30% increase in that, but we clearly have nearly double the amount of spend under management. So we are gaining, and that's why we think we're gaining, we feel confident we're gaining market share because of those numbers. Now, look, volumes are definitely up a little bit too, and the market size is a little bit bigger. But on the other side, demand is, as Bill called that earlier on the call, demand is actually lower than pre-COVID right now. And so as we get – and that – the spend of between $800 million to $900 million doesn't account to the ramp-ups of most of that $200 million plus spend on management that is still being ramped up now.

Okay. Do you feel like the GNA is right-sized and appropriate for the 1Q guidance levels, or is it? Is it built for a different level of volume in the business?

Good question, Toby. There's probably two pieces to that. Number one, I mentioned in my prepared remarks we've had about an 8% reduction in headcount since the start of the year. We won't get the full quarter of benefit of that, so just bearing that in mind. There is also some impact on the G&A in the first quarter from the payroll tax reset that we usually bear. There's a half million dollars on that. And then kind of picking up some of the remarks John made, we do maintain extra capacity in the business. If we were to just simply run the numbers, you'd say you could do with fewer headcount, but that's not the place we want to be, and we don't want to have to start from ground zero to rebuild the revenue producers that we've brought aboard and trained. And there's still opportunity. The reality is, I mentioned the offshoring of labor to India, but As important, we're still working through a lot of different opportunities for automating a lot of our complex processes. The ERP system that we're putting in, the first phase goes live, but most of the benefits of that will be really realized when we get to the second phase, which is in early 2025. So we're not done getting at the costs and the G&A, but for Q1, that's kind of the messaging.

Okay, that's helpful.

Let me see. When you look at the industry, the travel nurse industry as a whole, we're now two years and change of sort of trying to guess when the business may bottom and then finding new lows. How do you think of the industry at this point in capacity within it for the demand that exists today Is there too much in what may need to happen to rein that capacity in?

Well, I guess, Toby, I'd say that a lot of companies definitely ramped up pretty big, and I think the companies that are support from a third-party perspective, the vendors that don't have the direct client relationships are certainly going to have more capacity, I would imagine, than companies like Cross Country where you're still winning new direct relationships and MSP relationships.

Yeah, I think that's fair to say, Bill. This is John Tobey. I think that's right, where the companies that are relying on third-party are definitely going to feel a bigger decline in their businesses. And as companies like Cross Country win more market share, it's important to know our partner networks. It's interesting. I mentioned earlier we have a capture rate of 65% to 70%. And why that's important to us is we could, and it actually kind of goes to Trevor's question, we could actually increase our capture rate even higher. And we actually would offset maybe the decline in our revenue, but that's not our long-term plan. One of the things that's really important to understand about why our capture rate is between that 65% and 70% is, first and foremost, when we have these clients that we're accountable to, we want to make sure that we're providing the highest quality clinician to the bedside to serve the patients in the communities. And, you know, unfortunately, if you want to increase that capture rate higher than something like 65 or 70, you'd actually have to hold orders potentially. And that could affect that patient delivery. And that's something we would never do across country. And then secondly, and I've called this out on calls before, is we want to make sure that we have excess capacity to win deals. And I think over the last six months, we've certainly proven that in the wins that we've had is because we have the excess capacity, we're able to win these deals. And then the third part of why we want to keep that capture rate in that 65% to 70% is we want to make sure that We're allowing our partner networks and these sub-vendors, and these are the companies that rely on the third-party business. We want them to think of cross-country as their first choice, and we want to make sure that as we're starting to win more deals, they're there to support our deals so that we're keeping our clients very satisfied and happy.

Last thing from you, if I can speak one in. Could you talk about the market trend in MSP and VMS fees on subcontractors now that, you know, not only have you been in MSP in the marketplace for a long time, but now that you've got IntelliFi out there, are fees to subcontractors changing at all?

Yeah, look, we've seen over the years, I think, you know, from 2009 to, I've been in this industry way too long, periodically fees go up, and as cost pressures happen in competitive bids, what happens is we're seeing a lot more companies go out there and offer more services and offerings to clients to win their business, and those costs have to come and be passed along to the subvendors. So we are seeing an increase across the industry of those fees going up. But like I said, I started this industry in 2005, and every several years you see this industry grow up. I think when I first started, the average rate, I think the average fee was I think 3% in 2004. And so over time, inflation, you have more services going to clients, they end up costing fees. And when you get, as I mentioned, when you're getting more and more competitors and you're seeing more and more companies trying to get into the MSP and VMS space, They're all offering more and more, what's the right word, services and offerings that make it more competitive that increase the cost of running and managing an MSP and BMS service. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Our next question will come from Constantine DeVitas with Citizens JMP. Your line is open.

Hey, Bill, just... On the labor disruption front, you called that out. I think you said a few million. Just wondering if you can put a finer point on that. And then do you have any visibility to anything disruption-related that's going to impact the first quarter?

Sure, Constantine. It was between $3 and $4 million that we got within the quarter from labor disruption, so it really wasn't that significant. And as far as having a line of sight to Q1 labor disruptions, no. I mean, Mark's here. I don't think we have any Demand right now, Mark, is that correct? Yeah, that's correct.

Great. And then, John, I think you mentioned 2023 tech spend of about $20 million. I just want to clarify, is that both expensed and capitalized? And I was wondering if you guys could give us some sense for what that spend is going to look like in 2024 on the technology front and where it's being directed.

Sure, Constantine. It's Bill again. That's correct. The number that John referenced is the combined spend across the project, so that's capitalized and what's been run through operating expense, as well as what gets deferred. So, you know, in cloud computing, it doesn't all go on the investing activities on your statement of cash flow. Some of it is hung up in prepaids and will come back in an amortization once the project's alive. But by and large, the $20-odd million is what we spent across all those projects. And for 2024, We're anticipating spending a very similar amount.

Great. And then last one from me. Where are you guys in the migration of the MSPs over to Intellify? I remember you sort of paused that at some point last year. Just wondering if you can give us an update there. Thanks. Thanks.

Absolutely. Yeah, I mentioned a little earlier in the Q&A that we've seen about 80% of our programs are now on Intellify. We've got a handful left that will go over the first or second quarter. I think we've got two or three in Q1 and two or three in Q2. So we're nearly there.

Yeah, and it's interesting on that is that a lot of times it's not because of we don't want to put it there. It's really competing priorities at hospitals. And so You know, as Bill mentioned, we would have been there earlier. It's just matching up sometimes with the hospital and getting them set. But right now, we have the roadmap to get there, to get it pretty complete pretty soon at this point. So, yeah, as Bill said, before the end of the first half, we should be at 100%. Great.

Thank you.

Thank you. And once again, if you would like to ask a question at this time, you can press star 1 and record your name when prompted. Our next question comes from Kevin Steinke with Barrington Research. You may go ahead.

Hey, good afternoon. I believe you made a comment in your prepared remarks about margin expansion as you move through 2024. Is that correct? And if so, is that tied to just the ramp up of your Intellify business? Or, you know, are you also anticipating maybe some improvement in market conditions potentially contributing.

Hey, Kevin, this is Bill. I guess I'd say we're looking at Q1 obviously being the softest quarter. We've got a number of reasons for that, not realizing the full cost savings, the fact that there's a payroll tax reset. As we progress throughout the year, we're going to continue to expect to see growth across the higher margin businesses like education. Home care in particular has a number of programs, high single digit number of new programs that are ramping and We'll go live in the next few months. So there's opportunities to see the top line grow. I think as those businesses kind of recover, we'll see gross profit and gross margin start to rebound. I'm not making any calls right now on the bill pay spread for travel. I think, you know, we're still in a very tough market, but that's an opportunity, I think, as we move ahead. The Intellify conversions, once we complete those, that's going to add, you know, a little over seven figures of opportunity of savings annualized. for us to see that'll contribute to our bottom line. And then finally, there's continuing to look at the opportunities for cost savings, right? So we've got the work that we're moving overseas and we've got a very concerted effort, a very large program effort right now going across all of our teams to look and see what efforts we have that, can we first automate? And John made some comments about some of the things we're doing there and the prepared remarks, but if we're unable to automate and it's going to be a stable process, you know, we'd like to look at moving that to where we can do it for the most cost-effective way. So I think that's a piece of it. And then we're still working through all the things that will give us the opportunities to be more efficient, even from our back office. We've had projects that we've been working on over the last year, many of which have been going live throughout the fourth quarter and into the first quarter. So I anticipate that we'll still see even improvements across, you know, the shared services teams.

Okay. And is... You referenced you think revenue could ramp sequentially in the second half of 2024. And with all those various actions and initiatives you just discussed, do you think that high single-digit adjusted EBITDA margin would be reasonable as we move towards the back half of the year?

Yeah, I mean, I think, look, that's certainly our goal. And I made the remark in my prepared remarks that we're targeting to exit the year with SG&A at 15% on revenue. So, you know, if you look into where does that, where do you think gross profit or gross margin can be by the fourth quarter, you can start to back into what that could look like. But, yeah, something in that high single would be our goal to exit the year.

Okay. Well, thanks for taking the questions. Sure.

Thank you. And our last question will come from Bill Sutherland with the Benchmark Company, LLC. You may proceed.

Thank you. Hey, guys. John, I was thinking about the, you know, one artifact of COVID, I think, was a lot of the typical contracting cycles for MSPs got pushed out. So there's been like a bunch up this year or last year and maybe this year that I've heard. is occurring in the industry. And I'm just wondering kind of what your contract cycle looks like right now as you look at your book in both MSP and BMS.

Hey, Bill. Yes. Well, our cycle was heavier in 22 and 23 where we had more contracts up. And I think as we've all called out, that was because of COVID that people kind of held back and waited to go out to market after COVID hit. or what was perceived after COVID in 22. So we saw a higher number of our clients go out in 22 and 23. This year, it's definitely lower and less than last year. I think we may see more of the typical cycle of somewhere between 20%, 25% go out this year. And it varies, right? There's ones that are competitive. bids that our competitors are going in and getting involved in a competitive bake-off, if you will. And there's other ones that are renewals that are evergreen contracts that come up every year that the client's really not looking to go out to market. And those are the rules that just come automatically. And of course, you still have to make sure you're doing a great job with the client, giving the service that they need and providing the needs that they have and filling the needs they have. But there's a couple different categories. But to answer your question, this will be a lower year in the total number of renewals we have in the last two years.

Got it. And I'm going to wrap up with a real quick number question, Bill. Just curious, what is the headcount in India? Because you talked about increasing it this quarter, I think, or first half?

Yeah, we haven't, to my knowledge, given the specific India headcount out, but it's a couple few hundred. So it's between 200 and 300 and ramping quickly. Now, we've got about Today, probably half of the headcount is supporting our IT operation and half of the headcount is supporting our shared services, maybe a little bit more like 60-40 operations versus IT. But we've been doing a lot of development work out of our India office, and so that's part of what we're going to continue to invest in. But the main driver of the growth is going to be on the operational side of the business. And that's where we're going to be. When I say doubling the headcount, the doubling is the total headcount, but it's going to be predominantly on the operations side, so more of the investments for the operations.

And I think it's important to note on that India office that we have overseas, that office has been around for the cross-country for 18 years. It's a longstanding company that we've had there. Great partnership, great leadership there. As I mentioned in my prayer remarks, I was just there two weeks ago to do our company-wide kickoff from India to all of our offices. And I can tell you the talent that we have over there is just incredible. And they're ready to take on more and more of these services coming over. And we're really excited about this opportunity. great culture that we've created between the U.S. and India and truly this real partnership we have with our organization over there.

Perfect. Thanks, guys.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude the Q&A period. I'll now turn it back over to John Martins for closing remarks.

Thank you. In closing, I'd like to thank everyone for participating in today's call, and we look forward to updating you on the progress of the company on our next call in May.

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.