8/3/2021

speaker
Operator

Good evening and welcome to Cardlytics' second quarter 2021 financial results call. Before we begin, let me remind everyone that today's discussion will contain forward-looking statements based on our current assumptions, expectations, and beliefs, including expectations about future financial performance or results, our financial guidance and cash position for the third quarter of 2021, our ability to achieve long-term initiatives to drive long-term growth, growth in MAUs or monthly active users, launches by new partners in the coming quarters, the increase in ARPU, or average revenue per user, the impact of COVID-19 on our business and the economy as a whole, including the uneven recovery and volatility of the economy, Q4 being a seasonal high period for ad spending and consumer spending, the increase in stock-based compensation next quarter, continued pressure on our UK results, and the anticipated benefits and expectations and goals related to the integration of our acquisitions of Dosh Holdings Inc. and Bridge Inc. For discussion of the specific risk factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from today's discussion, please refer to the risk factors section of the company's 10Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2021, and in subsequent periodic reports that we filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Also during this call, we will discuss non-GAAP measures of our performance. GATT financial reconciliations and supplemental financial information are provided in the press release issued today in the 8K that has been filed with the SEC. Today's call is available via webcast, and a replay will be available for one week. You can find all of the information I've just described on the investor relations section of Cardlytics' website. Please note that a supplemental presentation to our first quarter results has also been posted to our investor relations website. Joining us on the call today is Cardlytics' leadership team, including CEO and co-founder Lynn Lobey and CFO Andy Christensen. Following their prepared remarks, we'll open the call to your questions. With that, let me turn the call over to Lynn. Lynn?

speaker
Lynn Lobey

Good evening, and thank you for joining our Q2 2021 earnings call. While we grew Cardlytics platform billings 111% and adjusted contribution 123% from Q2 2020, we fell below our guidance. This was driven by us forecasting a faster recovery than we realized in travel, retail, and restaurants. Here are the numbers. Cardlytics platform billings were $83.2 million, up 111% year-over-year. Cardlytics platform revenue, which is equal to billings net of consumer incentives, was $56.8 million, an increase of 101% from Q2 2020. And Cardlytics platform adjusted contribution was $27.6 million, up 123% year over year. To provide investors with more transparency into the quarter, we're providing advertisers spending concentration and growth rates for each of our key verticals. We're also reporting bridge results as a separate segment to help investors better understand performance and our investments in this business. I want to reiterate that while we're disappointed in the miss, our business is performing well. We believe advertisers spent less than we forecasted for three reasons. First, there were labor shortages. Second, retailers and restaurants had supply chain issues. And third, there was an increase in consumer demand, reducing the need for advertising with several key clients. For example, several of our key client restaurants paused their marketing because they couldn't purchase enough critical ingredients. A men's clothing client halted all of their marketing spend when they realized their supply chain couldn't deliver the inventory they needed to maintain customer selection. As a result, some marketing budgets across our client base were actually paused in Q2 something we rarely see in our business, and or push to Q3. Additionally, as you can see from the new supplemental information, travel and entertainment advertising spend are still down about 75% from Q2 2019, and the UK is still down about 23% from Q2 2019. Our Q3 guidance acknowledges the reality that the pandemic is still affecting our business. Additionally, we're not providing Q4 or full-year guidance at this time as we continue to see volatility. Importantly, we're not reducing internal targets or quotas. While our advertising clients remain committed to the platform, they are telling us that marketing budgets continue to be uncertain due to macroeconomic events. As we have discussed in the past, much of our billings are concentrated with large advertisers in verticals most impacted by COVID, highlighting the importance of self-service capabilities to expand our advertising base. Our team is facing the market's challenges head-on and focused on achieving the goals we laid out at the beginning of the year. With that said, I'm pleased with the progress we've made against the initiatives that will drive our long-term growth. We are ahead of plan on every single initiative that we have discussed for the last several quarters. Let me highlight some of the key integration, product, and client accomplishments. DOSH integration continues to go exceedingly well. By realizing synergies that we planned during the acquisition and post-acquisition integration process, we're executing against our plan to eliminate the EBITDA loss by the first half of 2022. We are now live with eight neobanks and fintech platforms, including Venmo. Additionally, we have another 14 neobank and fintech platforms coming online over the following quarters. The new partners include a contract with one of the most innovative fintechs in the U.S. This company selected Cardlytics and Dosh as its strategic loyalty partner to enhance customer adoption, retention, and card use by rewarding cardholders for everyday spend. With the addition of Dosh, we have positioned Cardlytics to be the platform of choice for fast-growing fintech and neobank sectors. Bridge integration, while much lighter than DOSH, is also progressing as planned. We have begun integrating staff functions such as HR, finance, and legal, and we are investing resource and capital to accelerate their efforts to achieve significant scale. Recently, we closed a large home improvement client, and the business has a strong pipeline with many leading retailers and restaurants. Client feedback on Bridge has been impressive. One of their key partners had this to say about their product. Quote, understanding all of our customers and their engagement levels allows us to deliver a differentiated customer experience. Bridge has enabled us to complement the deep insights we have around our loyalty members with an understanding of our unknown in-store customer purchase behavior, along with the ability to reach these individuals to develop an optimal customer relationship. We now have a true holistic view into our customer base that was not possible before. Our Cardlytics platform sales strategy is paying dividends. We continue to see strong year-over-year growth from new industries like D2C, which was up over 120% in Q2 2021 compared with Q2 2019. In the UK, we soft launch Nectar Connect to their online and mobile customers. As a reminder, Nectar is one of the largest loyalty programs in the UK and is run by the grocer Sainsbury's. The next step is a phased promotional campaign to all of Nectar's members. Our focus on open banking is showing positive results as enrollment rates and customer engagement are extremely encouraging and have already outstripped initial expectations. We hired Peter Chan from Amazon as our CTO. Peter's impact on migrating to the new self-service platform is already evident. We are making great strides in partnering closely with agencies leveraging our platform. We now have 27 agencies spending money on behalf of 43 clients on the Cardlytics platform. While not all of the agency clients are using our self-service yet, those that aren't are migrating to the new platform. We have created this momentum as agencies understand the capabilities that we will enable over time. As a reminder, we will break out agency spend starting in Q3 of this year. And finally, we continue to invest to further strengthen our bank relationships. We are working with each of our bank partners to find more ways to deliver content to their customers and improve overall value delivered through their programs. For example, we've established a clear linkage of the program engagement to increases in overall spend, habitual card use, and now even increases in savings and investment rates are creating even more support and excitement for our program across our bank partners. Before I hand it over to Andy, I just want to say that despite the headwinds in the quarter, the entire CDLX team is committed to executing against our initiative. We're leaving no stone unturned to make sure that we finish the year strong and continue to become a leading advertising platform for our customers and partners.

speaker
Q4

Thank you, Lynn. As Lynn mentioned, our financial results continue to be impacted by the pandemic. But I also share Lynn's excitement about the immense progress we've made on our longer-term product and technology initiatives. So let me review our Q2 financial results. Total billings increased 116% year-over-year to $85.3 million. Carmelitics platform billings with $83.2 million, an increase of 111%. Total revenue increased 109% year-over-year to $58.9 million. Cardlytics platform revenue was $56.8 million, an increase of 101%. Our Cardlytics US revenue increased 95% year-over-year, and our Cardlytics UK revenue increased 220%. In the US, we saw significant year-over-year growth in each of our industry verticals. When compared to 2019, however, it is clear that we are still being affected by an uneven recovery with lingering challenges across travel, and in some cases, retail and restaurant. Our UK business continues to be more severely impacted by the pandemic, as lockdowns and restrictions are still unwinding. Consumer spending and ad budgets have rebounded significantly from last year. We anticipate some continued pressure on UK results in the next few quarters. As Lynn mentioned, we have provided new information on ad spending on the Carmelix platform by industry. both retail and restaurant spending grew in excess of 110% year-over-year. But we expected both of these industries to rebound at an even faster pace when forecasting at the beginning of the year. Our stronger-than-expected results in March reinforced this expectation. Specifically, our Crowlix platform revenue was $16 million in January, $15 million in February, and $22 million in March. During Q2, our Crowlix platform revenue was $17 million in April, 20 million in May, and 20 million in June. These monthly fluctuations reflect the volatility of consumer spending and ad budgets in our key verticals, and it presents us with some challenges in accurately forecasting short-term results. Adjusted contribution was 29.6 million, an increase of 139% year-over-year. Part of this platform adjusted contribution was 27.6 million, an increase of 123%. Adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $5.7 million compared to a loss of $7.7 million in Q2 of 2020. Our adjusted EBITDA loss includes an incremental $10 million of operating expenses related to our recent acquisitions. As mentioned last quarter, we expected a larger EBITDA loss in Q2 than in Q1 as our investment in DOSH is reflected for a full quarter and bridge is included for roughly half of the quarter. As Lynn mentioned earlier, we have begun executing on a plan to integrate and rationalize the DOSH operations. And representing Bridge is a separate segment within our external reports. Bridge operated at nearly break-even adjusted EBITDA in Q2, but we have an investment plan to support the expected growth in that business. Here are a few other items outside our EBITDA results that are worth mentioning. First, in Q2, we incurred $14 million of acquisition and integration costs, and these costs are excluded from adjusted EBITDA. A significant portion of this relates to diligence and transaction costs. We're incurring a small amount of post-acquisition integration costs, so we expect to incur some additional costs throughout the rest of the year. Second, our stock-based compensation increased from $7 million in Q1 to $13 million in Q2. About half of the increased rates are awards issued in connection with the DOSH acquisition, an assumption of options originally issued by DOSH. The other half predominantly relates to our annual retention grants to employees. We expect stock-based compensation to go up a couple million dollars next quarter, driven by the bridge acquisition, the DOSH integration, and a few new hires. We ended Q2 with $251 million in cash and cash equivalents compared to $614 million at the end of Q1. The change in cash is largely due to the bridge acquisition, which closed in May. Minimum cash earnouts for bridge shareholders are expected to total $48 million in May of 2022 and $19 million in May of 2023. In addition, we have another $50 million still available to us under our loan facility at this time. Our balance sheet and liquidity remain strong. And while we're always evaluating our capital structure, we see no immediate need to raise additional funds. NAUs increased 7% year-over-year and were flat sequentially. As Lynn mentioned earlier, we have great momentum with neobanks and fintechs through DOSH, including a very innovative client that we just recently signed. We expect many new partners to launch over the next few quarters. ARPU during the second quarter was $0.34, compared to $0.18 in the prior year. We expect ARPU to increase on a sequential and year-over-year basis throughout the rest of the year as we continue to grow our revenue at a faster rate than our MAUs. We had 32.9 million shares outstanding at the end of Q2, compared with 31.8 million at the end of Q1. Weighted average shares outstanding during the quarter was 33 million, compared to 27.1 million during Q2 of 2020. This largely reflects the equity issuance last March and the shares issued in the DOSH acquisition. Now turning to guidance. In Q3, we expect total billings of between $85 and $95 million. Total revenue of between $57 and $66 million, and adjusted contribution of between $27 and $32 million. This is below our prior expectations, as we believe we'll still be dealing with an uneven recovery in Q3. We've also lowered our expectations for ad spending for return within travel this year. Given the volatility we expect in our key industry verticals, we've decided to wait to provide Q4 guidance until we have more visibility. Based on the current macroeconomic climate, we expect Q4 to continue being a seasonal high point for most HUD spending and consumer spending. However, we expect a high level of variability of these market dynamics, and each industry we operate in is still working through unique challenges of varying degrees that may result in later decision-making on campaign launches. Additionally, several of our largest clients develop their marketing plans during Q3, so we expect to gain more clarity in the next two months. We remain very excited about the long-term potential of Cardlytics and the combined value with DOSH and Bridge. Our focus is squarely on execution and making sure we have sufficient resources and investments to achieve near-term results and continue our progress on our important long-term initiatives. And with that, I'll turn it back over to Lynn.

speaker
Lynn Lobey

Thanks, Andy. There's still significant uncertainty in the market right now given COVID-19 trends, but we believe our business will continue trending towards a position of strength through this uneven recovery. We're looking forward to executing on our plan and acquisition integration for the second half of 2021. With that, I'll open up the call for your questions.

speaker
Andy

Thank you. Again, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star then one on your touch-tone telephone. To ask a question, please press star then one. Our first question comes from Jason Crear. Craig Hallam, your line is open.

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Jason Crear

All right, thank you for taking my questions. Just a couple of clarification items, if you don't mind. So in terms of the metrics you provided, it looks like MAUs were down about a million quarter over quarter. Just wondering if there was an explanation on that. And then when we look at the Q3 guide, obviously you're providing a wide range of outcomes, but it looks like the low end of the Q3 guide would actually show a lower sequential movement from the Q2 level. So I'm just trying to understand the logic and kind of the puts and takes that would drive a sequential reduction there.

speaker
Q4

Hey, thanks. This is Andy. On your first point on MAUs, you know, while we did add a few million MAUs with the launch of U.S. Bank, We actually did have a few million MAUs also come down from a planned wind down of a processor. You know, we've been working with them for a while trying to get them to do the things that were necessary to really have a successful program. We actually have had less than $50,000 of revenue from that partner this year. So they were actually unprofitable. And so, you know, as We've talked a lot about kind of where we're going as a platform. It just really didn't make any sense. So that's what that was. And then on your point on the Q3 guide, yeah, you're right. I mean, we have – you know, certainly there's a lot of uncertainty. We decided to keep the guide, you know, fairly wide still. There's just a lot of things that we're trying to work through with – you know, visibility. Certainly, we talked about travel and some of the continuing challenges that we have there that are in the market, right, from a supply and demand perspective. You know, we really just continue to see, you know, some struggles there. And then the U.K. But, you know, I think generally speaking, right, when you look at the guidance and look at kind of where we're speaking from, a midpoint there, right, we do anticipate things that continue to progress. We've seen continued, you know, increase quarter over quarter, we expect that to continue. And, you know, that wide guide is just because of the lack of visibility that we have right now.

speaker
Jason Crear

Got it. I appreciate the color, Andy. I want to squeeze in one more just on the more strategic side. But in terms of this enhanced platform that U.S. Bank is rolling out, just wondering if you can kind of reset the expectations on where we go from these, you know, from the current point in time, other financial institutions you expect to add there, like, And, you know, at what point in time you think you get critical mass where you've got several institutions utilizing that platform?

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Lynn Lobey

Yeah, thanks, Jason and Flynn. What we've publicly said is there is one very large bank that will be going live on this new platform and new experience in the back half of this year. So, you know, starting next year, we'll have significant MAUs on the platform. And then what we've also said is we expect most of the rest of the MAUs to adopt the platform over the course of 2022 so that by the time we get into 2023, we will have the majority, probably not all, but the majority of MAUs on a new version of the user experience. And just to add to that, we are already, it's very early. U.S. Bank is, of course, you know, a good, nice, mid-sized bank. And it's very early, but we're already seeing very encouraging results with significantly higher click rates on ads that have pictures, not a surprise, as well as significantly higher click rates on ads that are with the categorization features that we've added. So early times, but very exciting.

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Jason Crear

Perfect. Thank you. Appreciate the time.

speaker
Andy

Thank you. Our next question comes from Aaron Kessler of Raymond James. Your line is open.

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Aaron Kessler

Great. Thanks, guys. Just a couple of questions. One, maybe if you can just discuss the advertiser pipeline a little bit and maybe specifically DTC trends. It looks like they may have flattened out, but it looks like they may have been because of the recovery and some of the other verticals as a percentage of revenue basis. And just very quickly on kind of the ARPU calculation, just to clarify, you're excluding bridge from that. I was off by a penny there. Just to clarify that. Thank you.

speaker
Lynn Lobey

Yes. And I'll let you take this.

speaker
Q4

Yeah, I was going to clarify that, yeah, the bridge is not included in our ARCU calculations. The MAU number is really just a Cardlytics-only platform number, and then the revenue generated from the Cardlytics platform. Got it.

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Lynn Lobey

Yeah, and then on the D2C question, I think it's much more what you observed, Aaron, which is other categories are starting to come back. So D2C is still growing, but as a percentage of the overall business, as the other categories are coming back. It looks like D2C is flattening out, but it's absolutely still a very, very fast-growing category for us.

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Aaron Kessler

Got it. And just how do you feel about kind of the advertiser pipeline right now, kind of with the Salesforce? Any further details there?

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Lynn Lobey

Yeah. I mean, look, I know it sounds flip because we did just have a miss, but we also grew adjusted contribution 123% year over year. which is higher than I think any other digital platform out there. So we feel great about the pipeline. You know, we talked about the momentum we're seeing with agencies, which are bringing in a lot of new logos and new clients. Our current clients are still very excited by the platform. The pipeline is robust. So I know it sounds split, but, you know, there is nothing wrong with the core business. We just over-forecasted recovery.

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Aaron Kessler

Got it. Great. Thank you, guys.

speaker
Andy

Thank you. Our next question comes from Kyle Peterson. Needham, your line is open.

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Kyle Peterson

Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions, guys. Just wanted to see, you know, on some of the feedback you guys have been getting from some of your clients, maybe how much of, you know, the shortfall this quarter is from, you know, some of these kind of labor and supply chain issues and And how much of it is maybe from some of this pent-up demand kind of creating a little bit of an air pocket? Just want to see from you guys, like what you guys are hearing.

speaker
Lynn Lobey

Yeah, I mean, I'll jump in and then Andy, certainly feel free to add color. We certainly would have been in the range, probably above midpoint, had we not seen campaigns pause in the middle of the quarter. And the campaigns that paused in the middle of the quarter were because of, you know, like labor issues or lack of chicken or, you know, things like that. I do think we would have been above the high end of the guide had we not seen some advertisers just decide to basically not advertise because they didn't need to because of the demands. So it's obviously a bit of both. But, you know, clearly the pausing of campaigns that were already committed budgets It's something we have rarely seen. I mean, honestly, I don't ever remember seeing it. I'm sure it's happened in the past, but I don't have recent memory of it. And it really was because of those issues. And like I said, we would have been comfortably inside our guide and probably above the midpoint had it not been for those.

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Kyle Peterson

Okay. That's helpful. Just a follow-up on Bridge, the ARR breakdown and the revenue breakout in the release is super helpful, but just wondered if you'd give us, you know, any additional color either on the bookings momentum, you know, that they're seeing or how we should think about how the ARR will kind of roll into revenue moving forward.

speaker
Q4

Yeah, I mean, look, you will see a fairly standard, I think, you know, relationship there as it relates to, right, some of these other, you know, software platforms, if you will, right? Like, we're going to continue to grow that ARR. And as those become realized, right, we'll see that move through revenue. But, you know, I think we have quite a bit of good momentum on that side of the business, right? We've talked a lot about really trying to drive that scale and going to market and having conversations about, you know, jointly has already begun.

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Lynn Lobey

So, Kyle, just to give you some tangible numbers there, when we acquired Bridge, they had one full-time salesperson. They're now up to three, and we're investing heavily. So, you know, we are going to really blow out the pipeline. That's the goal. That's always been the objective. But obviously, going from one salesperson to three, you know, and people take time to train, et cetera. So, It's going to be a multi-quarter journey to really get them to material scale, but we're very focused on that right now. And then the clients we are calling on, we've identified 25 very high potential clients. These are clients both that could really benefit from Bridge, but also could benefit from Bridge and Cardlytics combined. And we're going after them pretty aggressively.

speaker
Kyle Peterson

All right. That's great color. Thanks, guys.

speaker
Andy

Thank you. Our next question comes from Doug and Luke. of J.P. Morty, Alana's open.

speaker
Doug

Hey, this is Dave Leon for Doug Amos. Thanks for taking the questions. First one on the challenges that your core verticals are seeing. When you talk to them, where do you think they are in solving those challenges? Do you think they're at least turning the corner, or do you think things will get a little bit more challenging before it improves? And then just the contribution as percent of revenue, it's depressed 50%. for the first time this quarter. And even if you exclude the bridge contribution, it's close to 49%. And it seems like you guys are guiding to that being in the high 40% level. So just curious what drove the increase and how we should think about that going forward.

speaker
Lynn Lobey

Yeah, I'll take the first part, and Andy, you can take the second part. I think, I mean, it's hard to predict the future, but I think the supply chain shortages that impacted a couple of our clients Those seem to be going away, but I will say the labor shortages are not. As an example, I tried to redeem a Burger King offer. I was really craving onion rings the last couple days, and I sent my daughter to go get me onion rings. Two days in a row, she went to Burger King, and they were closed. They didn't have enough employees. So I'm still worried about labor shortages. Supply chain shortages, hard to predict, but right now those seem to have gone away or at least dramatically declined.

speaker
Q4

Yeah. And on your second point, you know, we do have a bit more enhanced incentives this quarter than we've had in recent periods. We've talked about that, right? And that dynamic is where the banks are helping to fund enhanced offers, right, through their FI share. So what that does is it will suppress our gap revenue, right? But it's actually a you know, it's neutral to our adjusted contribution. So, if you're looking at adjusted contribution as a percentage of revenue, that can be distorted a little bit in those periods. But even when you look at adjusted contribution as a percentage of billings, which is probably a better way to kind of look at that, you will see it is a bit higher than normal. We don't expect to have that be probably as high on the cardiotic side going forward. We've talked historically about that being about 30% to 32%, and that's where we actually see it going longer term. There was a little bit of noise here in the quarter, but 32% is where we see that going.

speaker
Doug

Got it. Thank you. Helpful.

speaker
Andy

Thank you. Again, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star then 1. One moment, please. I'm showing notes. I have a question from Charles Navin of Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

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Charles Navin

Good afternoon, and thank you for taking my question. A few of the companies we follow in the payment space had reported an acceleration in trends in the UK during July. And given your exposure, I was wondering if you could comment if you're seeing anything similar given some of the reopenings in that region.

speaker
Q4

Yeah, I think we've seen actually some nice improvements, significant improvements, especially when we're looking at a year-over-year basis, as they've kind of started to unwind a lot of the lockdowns and restrictions, which they're still in the process of winding this down. You know, I think there's a very similar dynamic in the U.K., right, that we've had in travel here in the U.S. I think we've spoken to that a couple different times, right, where you have, you know, just not near enough of a, a need for demand generation. But as far as the spending, we do see that spending starting to come back. And I think really now it's more about making sure we get the ad budgets and the consumer spending, which we need both of those.

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Charles Navin

Okay, okay. And as a follow-up, I appreciate the color on slide, I believe it's slide 11, 13 rather, with the offer activation rates by industry. I was just curious, looking across those industries, where you see the most potential upside in activation rate?

speaker
Lynn Lobey

Yeah, it's a good question. Sorry, Andy, did you want to take that?

speaker
Q4

Go ahead.

speaker
Lynn Lobey

I was just going to say, it's a great question. I mean, what we know is, first of all, let's start with some basic stuff. Everybody eats, so we think restaurants are always going to be our highest click rates by far. I did mention the fact that we're seeing some really nice engagement with U.S. Bank with the new UI. Restaurants are some of the key places where we're showing some pictures. So I think those have, you know, there's some real potential there. You take something like subscription, I don't think you're ever going to see it go much higher. Subscription is kind of a low engagement but high value offer is the way we think about it. So the more fast, fun, and frequent a category is, the higher the click rates are going to go over time. And the more infrequent the category is, the lower the click rates are going to be, but the higher the revenue generation is the way to think about it. But, you know, restaurant, retail, the kinds of things people do frequently and every day, I think those click rates could go dramatically higher.

speaker
Q4

Yeah, and especially one point I'd say grocery is probably one where, you know, as we start talking about, you know, SKU-level offers and those types of things, right, there's probably a significant – you know, move that could happen over time in grocery, you walk into that opportunity.

speaker
Charles Navin

Great. Thank you for the caller.

speaker
Andy

Thank you. I'm sure no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to management for any closing remarks.

speaker
Lynn Lobey

Thanks. So, look, we had a miss. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. We're horribly disappointed. But at the same time, it was over forecasting in a very uncertain time. There is nothing wrong with the core business. We still grew our adjusted contribution 123%. So we apologize for the miss, but we are heads down, fully focused. If you invested in this business for the long term, all the long-term stuff is still here and even more robust than it was a quarter ago. Thanks, everyone. We appreciate your time.

speaker
Andy

Ladies and gentlemen, does that conclude today's conference? Thank you all for participating. You may all disconnect. Have a great day.

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