Cardlytics, Inc.

Q1 2022 Earnings Conference Call

5/2/2022

spk01: Pardon me, this is the operator. Today's conference is scheduled to begin shortly. Please continue to stand by and thank you for your patience. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the First Quarter 2022 Cardelics, Inc. Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. After the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. To participate, press star 1 on your telephone keypad. If you require any further assistance, please press star 0. I will now hand the conference over to Kirk Summers. Please go ahead.
spk06: Good evening and welcome to Cardlytics' first quarter 2022 financial results call. Before we begin, let me remind everyone that today's discussion will contain forward-looking statements based on our current assumptions, expectations, and beliefs, including expectations about future financial performance and results, our financial guidance for the second quarter, our ability to achieve our key long-term priorities, the increase in MAUs, or monthly active users, connected to our ad server, the increase in ARPU, or average revenue per user, the growth in bridge ARR, or annual recurring revenue, the impact of COVID-19 on our business and the economy as a whole, the sufficiency of our capital structure, economic recovery across verticals by the end of 2022, the growth in advertisers on ads manager, the use of cash for the bridge earn out, maintaining 30% annual growth rates, achieving positive adjusted EBITDA in the second half of 2023, plans for entertainment and their content, adding new financial institutions and banking partners, renewal of our Bank of America contract, growth with Bridge, our margin profile, continued momentum with agencies and advertisers in 2022, and the anticipated benefits of our acquisitions of DOSH, Bridge, and Entertainment. For discussion of the specific risk factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from today's discussion, please refer to the risk factors section of the company's 10Q for the quarter ended March 31st, 2022, which will be filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Also during this call, we will discuss non-GAAP measures of our performance. GAAP financial reconciliations and supplemental financial information are provided in the press release issued today and the 8K that has been filed with the SEC. Today's call is available via webcast and the replay will be available for one week. You can find the information I've just described in the investor relations section of Cardlytics website. Please note that a supplemental presentation to our first quarter results has also been posted on the Investor Relations website. Joining us on the call today are Cardlytics CEO and co-founder Lynn Lobey and CFO Andy Christensen. Following their prepared remarks, we'll open the call to your questions. With that said, let me turn the call over to Lynn. Lynn?
spk02: Good evening, and thank you for joining our Q1 2022 earnings call. We had our largest Q1 ever and delivered results that exceeded our guidance. Our sales team continues to deliver against our plan despite a choppy macroeconomic environment. Here are the numbers. Billings increased 28.7% year over year to 98.2 million. Revenue increased 27.6% year over year to 67.9 million. And adjusted contribution increased 34.6% year over year to 32.8 million. Our Q1 results reflect year-over-year billing growth in all of our industry verticals except restaurant, which continues to be impacted by labor and supply chain issues. The choppiness in restaurant was balanced by significant improvement in travel and entertainment, as well as improvements in the direct-to-consumer and retail industries, which reflect the continued diversification of the business. Let me share some specific examples of what we accomplished. Travel and entertainment had a great quarter and was up nearly 150% over Q1 2021. We saw consumers transact frequently for concerts, cruises, and travel, and leading to a 54% increase in overall consumer spending in this sector. In addition, the bank co-brand partnerships that we mentioned last quarter were a key driver to the outperformance, and these relationships continue to help us unlock new sources of marketing budgets. In the direct to consumer sector, a large subscription service provider that piloted with us in 2021 signed a new contract in the mid seven figures. While incremental return is important to this client, a key factor in the increase was the unique insights that we can provide on purchase behavior around subscription rates and churn rates. For retail, consumer spending is still growing and we're seeing a stronger than expected return to brick and mortar. We had eight seven-figure contract wins in the retail space in Q1 due to our incremental return and custom competitive insights. Advertising spend from agency accounts grew over 60% year-over-year and represented over 10% of advertiser spending during the quarter. Over a third of active Q1 agency accounts were new business in this quarter, but our earliest partners are also scaling quickly. We also produced several new reports for agencies via our self-service tool in the quarter. Moving on from results, I want to provide an update on our key platform enhancement initiative. Our work on the ad server, ads manager, and user experience adoption continues to progress. We have bank commitments to connect 50% of MAUs to the new ad server by the end of the year. But as a reminder, we are dependent on banks sticking to these timelines. In the first quarter, we began piloting local content from a partner with one of our major banks. This is an exciting development and allowed us to test the scalability of our new ads manager. In this pilot, we included over 300 hyper-local advertisers from a third-party content provider. In addition, our newly formed mid-market group sold, and we published, 200 mid-market advertisers in Q1, bringing our total advertiser count for the quarter to over 600 advertisers. We are well on our way towards reaching our goal of having over 1,000 advertisers running simultaneously on the platform in 2022. This pilot is also important because it tests our new platform scalability. On the old platform, we could launch a maximum of 40 new campaigns a week. With this pilot on the new platform, we launched 325 campaigns over a few days. This is a compelling early proof point on the potential to reach many thousands of advertisers over time. Our bank relationships continue to be strong. All but two of our banks have committed to moving to the cloud, and one of those two is in the final stages of approval. The last bank is a midsize bank, and we expect to receive approvals from them in 2022. The Bank of America contract is still on pace to be renewed, and we're progressing nicely. We fully expect to come to an agreement that is mutually beneficial for both parties. One of our large banks has seen twice as many mobile activations since they improved the program visibility in late February. Another large bank is planning to nearly double their 2021 investment spend into the program to leverage our offers as an extension of their core loyalty program. And despite small sample sizes, we continue to see the new ad server outperform the old server in interesting ways. For instance, customers that are served hero imagery are two to four times more likely to visit an advertiser website via an external click. With our recent focus on neobanks and fintechs via DOSH, we now have 18 publishers live, and 15 publishers that are under contract and scheduled to launch later this year. Additionally, despite the delay, the marquee partner we mentioned last year is scheduled to launch the DOSH program this quarter. This partner reaches more users than any DOSH partner we've signed, and we are excited to begin working with them. We remain enthusiastic about the long-term growth opportunities with these partners, as well as their ability to further diversify our base of MAUs. The Bridge progress and pipeline remains strong and still includes late-stage opportunities in DPG and grocery that we mentioned last quarter, which are very close to being signed. In addition, we have several new pipeline opportunities within retail, grocery, and convenience, and restaurant that were initiated through a joint sales effort between the Cardlytics and Bridge teams. Integration with entertainment is proceeding well. The acquired business met expectations for the quarter, and we're working to start leveraging your content on the broader Cardlytics platform. Our UK business grew revenues 52.6% year over year for its largest Q1 ever. The result was driven by a recovering economy and execution from our sales team. The business saw year over year growth across all industries and grocery and gas were standout performers. Additionally, several top clients that lapsed with the pandemic returned in Q1. So we believe the UK business has strong momentum going into Q2. Overall, these strong results exceeded our expectations, especially in light of the challenging macroeconomic conditions in a quarter that is historically the seasonal low point for our business. U.S. consumer spend in the quarter was the highest in four years, despite risk from inflation. However, we did see U.S. spend pullback in the last two weeks of March, down 5% and 3% year-over-year, respectively. We're watching consumer spend carefully and will continue to monitor its effects on the business as interest rates rise in this inflationary environment. It feels prudent to point these risks out to investors, but we also believe that the performance-based nature of our platform can deliver results in a price-sensitive consumer environment. We remain cautiously optimistic we will meet and even exceed our 30% growth targets for 2022. Before I turn the call over to Andy, I want to take a moment to welcome Jose Singer to the Cardlytics team. We recently announced that Jose is joining us as Chief Product Officer, succeeding Michael Ackerman. I want to thank Michael, who did a great job in building our product organization and expanding the capabilities of our platform. Michael hired a talented team that is well-positioned to lead their functional areas during this transition. Our new ads manager is running 100% of campaigns, and as I mentioned, we're starting to deliver the self-service capabilities we discussed with investors back when Michael started. Our ads manager is performing well, and we have a solid line of sight to connect 50% of MAUs to our new ad server before the end of the year. Thank you, Axe. We were incredibly fortunate to attract Jose to the team. He brings over 16 years of experience building and running product teams. He has the skills we need to build on the foundation and accolades. Jose joins us from Nextdoor where he served as head of product for the business and agency solutions. In this role, Jose was responsible for the end-to-end product experience, unifying the ad platforms and the overall strategy for small and enterprise advertisers. Prior to his role at Nextdoor, Jose held various leadership positions at Yahoo, including the vice president of product for their advertising solution, where he ran their native search, service delivery, and supply-side ad platforms. With that, I will turn the call over to Andy.
spk09: Thank you, Lynn. The business strengthened in the second half of the quarter, allowing us to exceed expectations. Year over year, we managed to grow billings 28.7% to 98.2 million, grow revenue 27.6% to 67.9 million, and grow adjusted contribution 34.6% to 32.8 million. Geographically, U.S. revenue grew 25.5% year-over-year, and U.K. revenue grew 52.6%. Strong back-to-back quarters in the U.K. is a welcome sign that they are recovering from their extended pandemic-related lockdowns in 2021. Before I move to EBITDA, I wanted to discuss bridge results. Bridge revenue grew 17.3% sequentially from Q4 to Q1, which is nearly 90% growth on an annualized basis. Despite this impressive growth in revenue, ARR, which is calculated as annualized revenue from the last month of the quarter, declined quarter over quarter from 15.3 million in Q4 to 14 million in Q1. This temporary decline was primarily due to the expiration of two large contracts in Q1, that we are close to extending at even higher ARR levels. We also have a large multi-year contract pending signature, so our expectation is for ARR to grow significantly next quarter and then resume growing more consistent with revenue. Bridge gross margin increased to 55.6% this quarter from 40.7% in Q4 of 2021. As a reminder, the bridge business incurs higher expenses during client onboarding given the large amount of historical point of sale data that is transferred upon implementation. Gross margins will grow over time as the business matures and develops a larger base of customers. But we expect bridge gross margins to be pressured over the next two years as the business continues to grow at a fast pace. Longer term, we expect bridge to achieve 75% gross margins. To help investors understand this dynamic, we introduced a new slide in our supplemental earnings deck with additional color. Adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $10.5 million in Q1 of 22 compared to a loss of $3.9 million in Q1 of 21. We expect a slight improvement in EBITDA in Q2 compared to Q1, given the uptick in adjusted contribution. But as I mentioned last quarter, we also expect an increase in operating expenses, largely as a result of wage increases in April, along with some planned investments in sales and technology. We remain confident that we'll reach sustainable positive adjusted EBIT in the back half of next year and with continued strong performance. It's possible that we can accelerate our path to profitability. We ended Q1 with $208.3 million in cash and cash equivalents compared to $233.5 million at the end of Q4. We used $2.3 million of cash in connection with the entertainment acquisition and also saw an increase in working capital driven by the timing of collections, prepayments for insurance and software, and payments for incentive compensation earned in 2021. Our balance sheet and liquidity remain very strong, and we also have $50 million available to us under our loan facility, so we see no immediate need to raise additional funds. We are thoughtfully considering a light blend of cash and equity to satisfy the bridge or outpayment due in Q2, and we expect to use more cash than the 30% minimum required under the merger agreement. MAUs were $178.5 million, an increase of 5.9% year-over-year. Our organic growth rate was in line with our long-term expectations of low to mid single-digit growth. ARPU during the first quarter was $0.36, an increase of 12.5% year-over-year. We expect ARPU to continue to increase on a sequential and year-over-year basis through the rest of the year as revenue continues to grow at a faster rate than MAUs. We had 33.8 million shares outstanding at the end of Q1 compared with 33.5 million at the end of Q4. Weighted average shares outstanding during the quarter was 33.7 million compared to 29.3 million during Q1 of 2021, which reflects both our 3.9 million share equity offering last year and the issuance of 1.1 million shares for the DOSH and entertainment acquisitions. Now turning to guidance. Consistent with our long-term outlook, we expect year-over-year growth of approximately 30% in Q2, which equates to total buildings of between 106 and 116 million, total revenue of between 73 and 80 million, and adjusted contribution of between 36.5 and 40.5 million. I want to reiterate what Lynn mentioned earlier about the outlook for next quarter and the rest of the year. Our internal reports a macro U.S. consumer trends, shows that spending in the first two weeks of April was down slightly year over year. But our platform is clearly outpacing that and showing solid year over year growth. We are keeping a close eye on consumer spending and external events, but I'm cautiously optimistic we can continue to deliver solid performance throughout the year in what is an increasingly price-sensitive environment. Q1 was a solid quarter, and we're really pleased with the execution, despite significant uncertainty in the global economy. As I've said in the past, we remain focused on the things we can control, developing and maintaining strong relationships with all of our partners, expanding our offerings, and developing a technology platform that will unlock the massive potential of our channel. We remain focused on strong execution here in Q2, and look forward to sharing more updates on our progress throughout 2022. And with that, I'll turn it back over to Lynn.
spk02: Thank you to everyone supporting our business. Q1 was a solid start to the year, and we believe our business will continue trending towards the 30-plus percent year-over-year growth target we set out last quarter. We're looking forward to executing on our plan, both financially and strategically. With that, I'll open up the call for your questions.
spk01: Thank you. And as a reminder, to ask a question, simply press star 1 on your telephone. To withdraw the question, press the pound or hash key. Your first question comes from Aaron Kessler with Raymond James. Your line is open.
spk04: Great. Thanks for the questions. May I just first, on the agency pipeline, can you just give us a sense for how that looks and maybe what size agencies are you seeing? Is it kind of more mid-market or kind of the large agencies? And then from a, I noticed the campaign spend looks like decreased a little bit on the groceries and restaurants categories. Looks like it was up nicely in the travel. Maybe specific to groceries and restaurants, but I'd be interested to get your thoughts there as well.
spk02: Sure. Hey, Aaron. It's Lynn. How are you? Good. Yeah, we've identified 35 or so agencies that we're targeting. Most are what I call mid-sized agencies. There's a handful of really big ones. The challenge with the big ones is they all have, you know, different organizations within the big agencies, so you need to sort of penetrate the big agency, get an MSA, and then you still need to penetrate division by division. So there's a mix, but most of them are more mid-sized types of agencies that represent – I would call it upper mid-market types of clients. You know, not the top 100 advertisers in the country, but certainly the top 100 plus.
spk04: Right.
spk02: And then on kind of the verticals, you're absolutely right. So restaurant was really impacted this quarter. We saw a lot of choppiness. We saw continued supply chain and labor issues with several of our large restaurant clients, including, you know, Starbucks, which has been pretty vocal about it, but also several others. Grocery is more a mixed issue. Nothing to read into there, but, you know, travel really was the offset for restaurants.
spk04: Got it. That's helpful. And then just any additional details on maybe cross-selling this quarter between Bridge and Cardlytics? I think the last quarter you noticed some nice synergies there.
spk02: Yeah. I mean, we're starting to figure it out. I want to be cautious. We have 25 clients that we've identified are ideal cross-sell targets for Cardlytics and Bridge. These are clients that we know would benefit from the Bridge solution, and in many cases, these are clients that are worried about measurement and attribution on the Cardlytics solution. So the ability to have Bridge be their own attribution solution is really powerful. We have a very small team of Cardlytics and Bridge people that are joint selling. We are definitely in the early days, but we have three clients for sure and probably another two in the hopper. that are actively working with us on joint deals. So we're seeing a lot of momentum there, but it's just momentum. You don't see it quite yet in the numbers.
spk04: Got it. Great. Thank you.
spk01: Your next question comes from Kyle Peterson with Needham. Please go ahead.
spk05: Hey, good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Just wanted to touch a little bit. I know you guys kind of mentioned that There were a little bit of fading in the last two weeks of March, and then you provided some commentary, at least in the first couple weeks of April, that suggests you guys are at least outperforming the broader consumer spending. I just wondered if you guys could give any color on how the first couple weeks of April compared to those last few weeks of March, was it further deterioration? Was it about flattish or maybe a little better? Just trying to get a sense of kind of how things are going on, kind of at least the most recently available data you guys have.
spk09: Yeah, thanks, Kyle. You know, we saw in the back half of March spend really kind of turn around. We saw, you know, for most of the quarter, you know, pretty good year-over-year growth. And that kind of deterioration started in March. It did improve a little bit in April. It was down very, very slightly. It was not a lot. But nonetheless, you know, our platform continued to really outperform expectations and really were able to deliver in what was a challenging spend environment. So, I mean, we certainly are excited to see that trend and that we're able to deliver despite the challenges of the market.
spk05: That's really helpful. And then I guess just kind of a higher level question. follow-up, really just on the diversification efforts with the platform. Thinking back to kind of where you guys were around 2Q of last year compared to now, it seems like a lot of things, whether it's supply chain or inflation and some pressures on the consumer, it seems like those headwinds on a broader level have gotten a little more acute. But you guys, in terms of the performance, seems like it's been – Is this just a more diversified platform? Is it a couple big campaigns in travel coming and really giving you guys a big boost this quarter, just trying to put together some of the puts and takes to see kind of how you guys are outperforming?
spk02: Yeah. Hey, Kyle. Yes is the answer to kind of everything you said, but just to give you a little bit of a historical timeline, what happened in Q2 last year surprised us. The first time we saw supply chain issues and labor issues, and so it absolutely surprised us. Since then, we're much better about not getting surprised, so you certainly see that dynamic. We're scrubbing our pipelines much more carefully. We're really understanding what risks the clients may or may not have in their own businesses better. Then you also see increased diversification. I mean, we're at 600 advertisers running, you know, this in Q1. I don't remember how many we had in Q2 of last year, but pretend it was 120, 130, something like that. So you're seeing diversification. You're seeing a really nice travel comeback, as we talked about in the script, but that is somewhat offset by restaurants. So it's just a bit of everything. It is still very messy out there, for sure. But I think we're getting better at predicting and working with our clients on the messiness and making sure we don't get ahead of ourselves there and also on diversifying.
spk05: That's really helpful. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Corder.
spk01: Thank you. Your next question comes from Jason Cryer with Craig Hallam. Please go ahead.
spk08: Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Just given the success-based nature of the platform, I think you could conclude that Cardlytics ad budgets could be a little bit more isolated from the macro than the broader ad industry. So just curious if you're hearing dialogue from advertisers that would support that maybe those budgets are a little stickier.
spk02: Hey, it's Lynn. A little bit. I mean, I think what we're hearing much more consistently from clients is just the macro economic challenges that they're dealing with. And so they're either pulling back, in most cases, if they're pulling back, they're pulling back everywhere, probably less so with us. But while we are seeing some positive, you know, response to the performance-based nature of the channel, I think it is way too early to declare that we're going to be less susceptible than other ad budgets out there right now, just because it is so messy, as I've been saying.
spk08: Fair enough. And then just on the ad server, wondering if there's any notable progress. You called out that you have commitments to get to that 50% goal. Just curious if those are new commitments to get to that level, and then if you're hearing any commentary from the bank partners on what that deployment timeline looks like.
spk02: Yeah, I mean, we've been working with all of our banks, as you know, for multiple quarters now to get commitments. So these commitments are not new. They're just we're closer to the date. So as you get closer to the date, you feel a little bit more confident that maybe they're not going to slide. We do have commitments from multiple banks, just, you know, not all this year. And events are, as we all know, frustratingly sometimes slow and will delay a project for what seems like almost no reason. So this is an aggressive goal still, but we do have a committed date that we are getting closer to.
spk08: Perfect. Thank you.
spk01: Thank you. And as a reminder, to ask a question, simply press star 1 on your telephone. Your next question is from Jeff Cantwell with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
spk07: Hey, thanks. Thanks for allowing me to join these calls. Congrats on the results. I had a couple of follow-ups on your commentary earlier. Can you maybe talk some more about the rest of the year on billings? Is there any additional color you can provide on what type of cadence should we expect to see here? There seems to be a lot of moving parts. Maybe just help us understand the seasonal trends in your mind, although obviously we're looking forward on billings and how optimistic you might be about the back half of the year. Any thoughts there would be appreciated. Thanks.
spk09: Yeah, you bet, Jeff. So, you know, we've talked, you know, quite a bit here recently around our growth, target growth rates at 30% plus growth rate. And we still are very comfortable with achieving that this year and beyond. Now, Q2 and Q3, historically, we've had a little bit of inconsistency as to which quarter is going to be larger than the others. I do think, though, this year that we're going to see Q3 be larger than Q2. And we always see Q4, right, with the seasonal uplift of spend and ad budgets is always our biggest quarter. So I don't think that's going to be a real dramatic growth from Q2 to Q3, but we will see Q3 be larger. We have a very difficult comp in Q4, so we do think that we should have some nice growth rates here in the next couple quarters. In Q4, it may be a little bit more challenging there, but that should be how it kind of plays out in the next couple quarters.
spk07: Okay, great. Appreciate that. And could you just clarify, it sounded like you might have been talking earlier about seeing opportunity to potentially accelerate the path to profitability around the back half of next year. Is that right? What are the drivers there? Can you walk us through that and talk a little bit more about what you see as the drivers there?
spk09: Yeah, that's right. We've talked about being profitable back half of next year. And I think if we sustain our growth and achieve our goals here, the next several quarters, we're going to be in a great shape to accelerate that, right? That comes with higher growth rates, that comes with, you know, on the edges, you know, sharpening our pencils on our OpEx and a little bit more discipline there. But really, you know, we're going to, these growth rates, you know, we're going to be profitable in the back half. I think it just remains to be seen, you know, quarter by quarter, right, what is that growth rate? We've talked a lot about our growth doesn't always, it's not a straight line, right? So if we can sustain these growth rates according to our plan, then we'll be in a great position to accelerate that.
spk07: Okay, great. Appreciate all the color. And thanks again. Congrats on the results.
spk01: Thank you so much. Next question is from Nat Schindler with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
spk03: Yeah. Hi, guys. Just a quick question. I wanted to Your slide 16, on the offer activation rates by industry, travel ticking up. I guess more people are traveling. That makes some sense. But everything else actually ticked down on a year-over-year basis. Is there any specific reasons?
spk02: Yeah, thanks, Edith Flynn. Yeah, the quarter got off to a slow start. That's why we were so cautious with our guide that we gave. It definitely got off to a slow start. I think it's just more everything that was happening. We were in some wave of Delta or COVID. I can't even remember what wave we were in. The war in the Ukraine was starting. Thank you, Omicron. Gas prices were going through the roof. So I think it is much more related to The quarter getting off to a bit of a rough start. The one call out I will say is grocery. That's much more of a mixed issue. We have a number of really large grocery platforms in the channel that are like subscription based type services. So they have lower click rates, but much higher revenue potential. So you've got a mixed issue there. But I think everything else was really just around slow start to the quarter, and it was just, you know, it was a really weird January and February, like in the world, not just at Cardlytics.
spk03: Totally understand that. But do you see April engagements backed up on a year-over-year basis? I know that this is really hard with different waves of COVID just messing with the macro. But April was pretty clean last year and April now. How does that compare?
spk02: April now is looking clean. Now, as Andy said, you know, we're watching spend closely. So it's slightly down year over year in April, but not like what we saw, you know, in the back two weeks of March. But so far, April is looking clean or cleaner, certainly.
spk03: And, Lynn, just a little bit to dig into that, especially the grocery, it's an interesting because it's a mix and a different type of product. But with the inflation push on the consumer, wouldn't, you know, your products, which are, you know, it's a discounting service, it's a coupon, right? wouldn't that have an uptick in this type of economy, or is it just an overall spend, which is the driver?
spk02: It's the mix of – so we have some new grocery advertisers in the platform that are much more subscription-based. And so it's a higher upfront cost for the consumer. They save more, but it's a higher upfront cost. And we've got more of those in the platform – than we've had before. So, you know, you're not seeing as much of the save 3% on your groceries at X retailer. You're still seeing that, but you're also seeing, you know, spend $100 on this particular subscription and save 20. And so I think it's much more like those will have lower click rates just because it's a higher upfront cost for the consumer, even though they save more and we make more money. But the click rates are just by definition lower. The higher the ticket price, the lower the click rates. across every vertical, just on average, that's the way it works.
spk03: That makes sense. Thank you.
spk01: Yep. Yep. Thank you. And with that, we conclude the Q&A session. I will turn it back to Ms. Lynn Lobby for her final remarks.
spk02: Well, thanks, everyone, for listening to our earnings call. We were pleased with the quarter. Certainly saw some puts and takes, but overall pleased with the quarter, and we continue to believe that we can see 30-plus percent growth year over year for multiple years to come, even with some wantonness out there. But we're feeling good about where we're positioned as a company, as a business, and as a leadership team.
spk01: And with that, ladies and gentlemen, we conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect.
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