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spk01: Good afternoon. My name is Livia and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Cadence First Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remote, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. I will now turn the call over to Alan Lindstrom, Senior Group Director of Investor Relations for Cadence. Please go ahead.
spk10: Thank you, Olivia. I would like to welcome everyone to our first quarter 2021 earnings conference call. I am joined today by Lipu Tan, Chief Executive Officer, Anirudh Devgn, President, and John Wall, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. A webcast of this call is available through our website, cadence.com, and will be archived through June 18, 2021. A copy of today's prepared remarks will also be available on our website at the conclusion of the call today. Please note that the discussion today will contain forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements include but are not limited to statements about our business outlook, product development, business strategy, and plans, industry, and regulatory trends, market size, opportunities, and positioning. These statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected or implied in today's discussion. For information on factors that could cause a difference in our results, please refer to our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These include Cadence's most recent reports on Form 10-K and Form 10-Q, which was just filed, and then also including the company's future filings and the cautionary comments regarding forward-looking statements in the earnings press release that was issued today. You should not rely on our forward-looking statements as predictions of future events. All forward-looking statements we make on this call are based on estimates and information available to us at the time of this discussion, and cadence disclaims any obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required by law. In addition to financial results prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles or GAAP, we will also present certain non-GAAP financial measures today. Cadence management believes that in addition to using GAAP results in evaluating our business, it can also be useful to review results using certain non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP financial measures should not be considered an isolation from or as a substitute for financial information prepared in accordance with a GAAP. These non-GAAP financial measures are not based on any standardized methodology prescribed by GAAP and are not necessarily comparable to similarly titled measures presented by other companies. Investors and potential investors are encouraged to review the reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures with their most direct comparable GAAP financial results. A reconciliation between each non-GAAP financial measure and its nearest GAAP equivalent may be found in our earnings press release following the financial statements. Copies of today's press release dated April 26, 2021, for the quarter and year ended April 3, 2021, related financial tables and the CFO commentary are also available on our website. For the Q&A session today, we would ask that you observe a limit of one question and one follow-up. You may re-queue if you would like to ask additional questions and time permits. And now I will turn the call over to Lipu.
spk05: Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'm pleased to report that Cadence had a great start of the year, delivering outstanding financial results for the first quarter, with broad-based demand for our innovative solutions, driving strong revenue growth, profitability, and cash flow. John will provide the details in a moment, as well as our updated outlook. Generation trends by 5G, hyperscale computing, autonomous driving, and industrial IoT continue to propel the need for innovation in compute, memory, networking, and storage from the edge to the cloud. With massive amounts of new data being generated every day, AI, ML, and data analytics are helping transforming the data to intelligence, providing actionable insights, and accelerating digital transformation of several industries. These trends are continuing to drive strong semiconductor demand and design activity across a broad spectrum of end markets. And our intelligent system design strategy ideally positions us to capture these exciting opportunities. Now, let me talk about the Q1 highlights, starting off with Core EDA and IP in the design excellent layer of our ISD strategy. We had ongoing strength in aerospace and defense, and we significantly expanded our collaboration with a marquee aerospace defense systems company that included the proliferation of our digital full flow, as well as our functional and custom simulation solutions. Our digital sign-off business had a strong revenue quarter, with multiple market shipping customers successfully dipping out at 5 nanometer and below process nodes using our digital full flow. Increasing design complexity continues driving the circular trend for hardware-assisted verification. And Q1 was a standout quarter for our palladium simulation and protium prototyping platforms. Significant expansions as well as multiple new wins, contributed to Q1 being our best hardware revenue quarter ever. Additionally, we announced our new Palladium Z2 and Protium X2 platforms, delivering 2x capacity and 1.5x higher performance than our current leading Z1 and X1 systems. These next generation systems enable the highest throughput hardware debug and pre-Silicon software validation for multi-billion gate SoC designs and were endorsed by NVIDIA, AMD, and ARM. Our IT business also deliver double digit year-over-year revenue growth. There was strong demand for our high-speed 30 IP by market-shaping customers for their next-generation data center and networking environments, as well as continual strength in our memory interface IP business. And Celica continued to expand its footprint in true wireless stereo, and Bluetooth headsets, and our Vision P6 and Hi-Fi products were refrigerated in the wearable and smart speakers and markets. It was another exciting quarter for system design and analysis segment, delivering over 30% year-over-year revenue growth. Early this month, we acquired Pointwise, a leader in mesh generation for computational fluid dynamics. The addition of Pointwise technologies and experience team further broadened our system analysis portfolio, complements our recent acquired Numeca CFD technology and our organic multi-physics products. Coinwise provides highly innovative mesh and grid generation technology to enable high-fidelity CFD analysis. And its solutions are being used by several marquee customers, especially in the aerospace segment. We want to congratulate our Numeca team for the role their product played in the design of the Emirates Team New Zealand racing boat that won American Cup for New Zealand for the fourth. The winning team used a simulator based on the Numeca Phi Marine CFD software for their computational fluid dynamic modeling. And thanks to the unprecedented accuracy and Really some of their simulators were about to accurately test new ideas and concepts long before the first boat ever touched the water. We introduced SecurityX, our next generation signal and power integrity solution, with endorsements from Samsung, MediaTek, and Renesas. This solution leveraged new simulation engines and massively parallel architecture to deliver over 10%, up to 10% performance and capacity gain for system-level simulation of the most demanding hyperscaler, 5G, automotive, and aerospace applications. and Qualcomm expanded their usage of our flagship Virtuoso and AWR products for advanced RFIC design and clarity for system analysis. Let me conclude with a few comments on some macro level topics. We continue to monitor the semiconductor supply chain situation, and so far, we are not seeing any slowdown in design activity across our customer base. Next, in regarding the evolving state of the COVID-19 pandemic, while some countries are edging towards normalcy, there is a growing concern with the escalating number of cases in certain regions, especially in India. As always, the health and safety of our employees, customers, and partners is paramount, and we will continue doing what is in their best interest while working closely with local regulatory agencies. Lastly, in the past year has brought to light many social justice challenges, including the recent acts of violent against Asian Americans. I strongly believe that we have an obligation as individuals and as a company to take a stand against racism and set an example for inclusiveness and understanding. At Cadence, we are committed to listening with empathy, be inclusive of different points of view, and as a result, ensure that our diversity enhance our experience and our innovative spirit. Now I will turn it over to John to go over the Q1 results and present our Q2 and updated 2021 outlook.
spk07: Thanks, Lipu. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm pleased to report that we exceeded all of our key operating metrics for the quarter. Broad-based growth across many lines of our business, combined with some earlier-than-anticipated hardware sales, resulted in strong revenue growth in Q1. We continue to invest heavily in building out a multi-physics platform for system design and analysis. We completed our second acquisition of the year in the CFD space, where we acquired PointWise in April, a leader in CFD mesh generation. The focus over the past few months on completing acquisitions contributed to some delays to our expected pace of hiring in Q1, but we expect to get hiring back on track by the second half of the year. Now let's go through the key results for the first quarter, beginning with the P&L. Total revenue was $736 million. Non-GAAP operating margin was approximately 38%. GAAP EPS was $0.67. and non-GAAP EPS was 83 cents. Next, turning to the balance sheet and cash flow, at quarter end, cash totaled $743 million, while the principal value of debt outstanding was $350 million. Operating cash flow for Q1 was $208 million. DSOs were 48 days, and during Q1, we repurchased $172 million of cadence shares. Before I provide our updated outlook for fiscal 2021 and what we expect for Q2, I'd like to take a moment to share the assumptions embedded in our outlook. The ongoing chip capacity constraints, along with the recent surge in COVID-19 cases in India, are expected to create a headwind for IP revenue for the remainder of this year. The revenue impact has been factored into our outlook. We expect expenses to increase in the second half of the year, primarily due to headcount growth as we continue to invest in our expanding multi-physics platform. We've included the Pointwise acquisition in our 2021 outlook. And finally, our outlook assumes that the export limitations that exist today for certain customers will remain in place for all of 2021. Embedding these assumptions into our outlook for fiscal 2021, we expect revenue in the range of $2.88 to $2.93 billion. Non-GAAP operating margin in the range of 35% to 36%. GAAP EPS in the range of $2.01 to $2.09. Non-GAAP EPS in the range of $2.99 to $3.07. Operating cash flow in the range of $900 to $950 million. and we expect to use at least 50% of our free cash flow to repurchase Kaden shares in 2021. For Q2 2021, we expect revenue in the range of $705 to $725 million, non-GAAP operating margin of approximately 36%, GAAP BPS in the range of 44 to 48 cents, and non-GAAP BPS in the range of 74 to 78 cents. Our CFO commentary, which is available on our website, includes our outlook for additional items as well as further analysis and gap to non-gap reconciliations. In conclusion, the cadence team delivered another quarter of strong operating results and remain focused on driving profitable revenue growth. We'd like to thank our customers, partners, and of course our employees for a solid start to 2021. And I'd like to remind them all that their health and safety continues to be our first priority. And with that, operator, we'll now take questions.
spk01: Thank you. At this time, I would like to remind everyone who wants to ask a question to please press 5 and the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. We will pause for a moment to compile the Q&A roster. And our first question comes from Jason Salino with KeyBank. Your line is open.
spk12: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe my first one. Historically, customers have gravitated toward the latest and greatest hardware products, especially on the emulation side. But because emulation strength has been going on strong for several years now, how do you think the pace of uptake for the C2 and Proteum products could be?
spk13: Oh, thanks for the question.
spk07: That's a great question, Jason. Yeah, I mean, you might have noticed that we beat the midpoint of guidance in Q1. Partly that was due to us trying to manage the Osborne effect on transitioning to our new Palladium Z2 and prototyping X2 system. Yeah, we had an incentive plan in place to... to try and sell as many of the Z1s and X1s before we launch the new products. So we expect a strong uptake for those new products, but the incentive plan worked really well, and Q1 was a really strong hardware quarter for us. It's a testament to the compelling value of our hardware solutions. They're providing both chip and system-level customers across multiple use models.
spk12: Okay, great. And then for my follow up, maybe just an explanation here. But I think, John, you mentioned the chip capacity constraints and the COVID impact in India being a headwind for IP. Maybe coming from my software background, but maybe explain why this would be an impact. And maybe you could quantify the dollar amount for the percentage.
spk07: Yeah, sure, Jason. On the COVID-19, I mean, the worst thing, pandemic in India could have some impact to the timing of delivery for certain hardened IPs that require testing in labs. And as we said in our prepared remarks, that's been factored into our updated outlook. India bailed us out last year. If you recall, we had similar challenges back in Q2 last year in North America. And we're hoping we can do the same for them now. But it could cause some fluctuation in revenue timing between quarters. The bigger impact on the year is probably in relation to chip capacity constraints. You know, last quarter when we talked about that, my expectation was royalties might be flat year over year. I now expect them to be slightly down. So there's a slight headwind built into the guide this quarter for that.
spk12: Great. Thank you. I'll get back to you.
spk01: Our next question comes from Jackson Adair with JPMorgan. The line is open.
spk14: Thanks for taking my questions, guys. I'd like to start on remaining performance backlog and calculated bookings. Down a bunch in the quarter relative to a pretty tough compare, but I was just wondering if you guys had any additional commentary on the bookings performance in the quarter.
spk07: Hi, this is John. I think that's just a reflection of a low renewals quarter. Yeah, we'd expect the remaining performance obligations to ratchet back up before the end of the year.
spk14: Okay, fair enough. And then on the geographic side, we saw remarkable growth from China in the second half of 2020. Looks like that geo kind of came back down to earth here in the first quarter. Any particular product segments, you know, hardware, software, IP that would be impacted for that geography coming back down?
spk07: Yeah, China's back. I mean, clearly it's back to more normal levels of business at the 12% levels. That's mainly because the strength appears to be more broad-based across geographies this year. If you recall, in Q3, we had a really strong hardware quarter, and that was in China. I mean, this quarter in Q1, a lot of the strength was in North America and more balanced across all the regions, across all the geographies. In our outlook, I've assumed a return to our usual recurring revenue mix in the region as well, and that, along with the fact that we've won this week in the second half of fiscal 2021, kind of contributes to the conservative revenue outlook in the second half. When we get to the summer, we'll have increased visibility into revenue for the second half and the pipeline for the second half, and we can update the outlook then at that time.
spk14: All right. Thank you.
spk01: Our next question coming from the line-up, Gail Mundo with Burenberg. You want to start, Ben?
spk15: Hi, thank you for taking my question. The first one is just, John, maybe a little bit expanding on what you just said. So when I look at your historical trends of, you know, revenues, it tends to be fairly well kind of equally split throughout the quarters, and Q2 tends to be sequentially slightly stronger than Q1. Is it because of this slight pull forward of hardware that you're expecting Q2 potentially at the mid-end of the guidance to really lower the CS?
spk07: Yes, Gal. We implemented a... And we incentivized the sales force to try and close some Z1 and X1 business as early as possible in the year in preparation for the launch of our new Z2 and X2 hardware systems. That was more successful than we originally thought. And about $10 billion of Q1's revenue, I had originally forecast to happen in Q2. So, of the 16 million beat, I guess, at the midpoint for Q1, there's probably 6 million of that with a true beat, and 10 million was what we originally thought would fall into Q2 that happened a little bit earlier in Q1.
spk15: Gotcha. That's really helpful. Thank you. And then maybe just a little bit of a longer-term strategic question around building the CFD platform capabilities. which kind of adds to your clarity side. And I'm thinking about potentially other physics that you might be adding over time. Is that a potential for that? Or do you guys think that fluid simulation is something that's kind of very applicable to the cooling and everything of the system? So because of that, you kind of want to bring that in-house and the other ones may be a partner. How are you thinking about it?
spk13: Yeah, thank you for the question. Let me answer that. This is Anirudh. So first of all, we are excited about CFD, like we mentioned last time. And it is a very big segment in system analysis, close to $1.5 billion, $1.6 billion. So we are excited, focused on that. And Pointwise is a leader in meshing technology. So we are glad to work with them. bring them in house. So we think combining point wise with Jamaica solver and our organic capability and battle and distribute computing can give a very, very state of the art solution for the CFP market. So we want to make sure we do well in CFP. And as you know, we are already in electromagnetics with clarity and thermal Celsius. So I think these are our focus areas for now, and then we see how things go in these segments. But so far, we are optimistic. And actually, if you look at Q1 results, we had good growth versus Q1 of last year. So like John said, we are continuing to invest in this space, and we are still early in CLB, but optimistic about it. Thank you. That's really helpful. Thanks.
spk01: Our next question coming from the line of Joe from LiquidBear. Great.
spk09: Hi, everyone. I was hoping just to talk about the product cycle for the new emulation and prototyping to get Two platforms launching at the same time that have new silicon behind each. I think that's a pretty unique event. So, you know, Jenna, I get kind of the timing and the incentivizing of the older generation. But could it be possible that just the performance on the new generation means that the net demand, you know, ultimately is maybe higher than being forecasted or higher? Do you think that's a possibility, but maybe timing-wise, it's probably more of a second half driver for you?
spk07: Yeah, I think that's a good observation, Joe. We're building the systems as quickly as we can. There's plenty of demand there. We dope the systems, the dynamic dual for the tight integration with unified compiler and interfaces. The Palladium-Z2 and Proteum-X2 systems are designed to address the challenges faced by those designing for the most advanced electronic applications, including mobile, consumer, and hyperscale computing design. So we expect demand to be very strong. And the... They have, I mean, the customers can achieve up to two times capacity and one and a half times performance improvements with each platform. And they work so well together. Like I say, the team called them the dynamic duo, so it was important for us to launch them together. But, yeah, we're building them as quickly as we can, and there's plenty of demand for them. But, like I say, by the time we have them built and everything, it might impact the second half of the year more than the first.
spk09: Okay, that's helpful. And then just to follow up on the margin guidance for the year, because I think you ended up beating your forecast in one queue by $28 million and the full year moved higher by $12 or $13 million. Is that purely just a function of hiring being back-off weighted, or are there other things like product mix or some other investments to consider as well?
spk07: That's exactly right, Joe. It's basically what you're seeing is the compounded effect of revenue happening a little bit earlier than originally forecast because of the success of that incentive program and the success of the sales of Z1 and X1 in Q1. And then hiring getting delayed a little bit to later in the year as we focused on closing some acquisitions for the CFD space.
spk09: Great. Thank you very much.
spk07: No worries.
spk01: Our next question coming from the line of Jay Fleishow with Griffin Securities. You want to jump in?
spk06: Thank you. Good evening. A couple of paired technical and financial questions for Anirudh and for John. First, for Anirudh, on the fourth quarter call three months ago, as you may recall, we talked about how customers' design flows and methodologies are evolving. The follow-up, therefore, to that observation you made at the time is, How might that affect, as that takes place, Cadence's pricing and or product packaging commensurate with customers' evolution of their methodologies? Could there be any effect on how you price and or package your software or anything else? And then secondly, with respect to system design strategy and the overall computational software strategy, how would you compare the R&D and AE intensity or requirements of system analysis, particularly as you add more in CFD and other physics, versus core or classical EDA, such as synthesis, implementation, RTL simulation, and the like? Do you expect any meaningful differences between those two parts of the business?
spk13: Thanks. Thanks, Jay, for the question. Those are very good questions. Let me take the second one first. So as you may know, Jay, you know, even in our EDA business or EDA software business, you know, maybe one-fourth of it is more simulation-based, you know, like circuit simulation and logic simulation. So invariably those simulation-based businesses are more profitable than overall EDA, you know, so like Spectre usually is more profitable than PlaceRoute, for example. So I expect a similar trend to happen in system analysis. So system analysis by nature is simulation-based, whether it's clarity, it's electromagnetics or CFD. So in steady state, I do expect that system analysis to be, you know, more profitable than core EDA. Now, as we build up and we scale revenue, you know, there are some transient ages. But in steady state, I do expect that to be the case. And so far, we are pleased with not just the revenue growth, but actually even the margin performance of system analysis. And on your first question, I think we are looking at it carefully, you know, in terms of packaging and And pricing, we're pretty disciplined in that. I think one big trend, like I mentioned last time, there's more and more full-flow use at lower nodes, as you know already. So we are selling a lot of these tools together. So we just continue to monitor it and work disciplined with our customers and internal teams. John, do you want to add anything on pricing?
spk07: Yeah, well, what I would add is that, Jay, I mean, you're exactly right. I mean, you look at the tools that we create on the software side, there's a lot of R&D and AE intensity in terms of supporting those tools. And if you look at the software that we're selling, you could nearly bifurcate all the licenses into two groups. There's the interactive tools where every license needs a driver, and then there's like simulation tools where they're kind of batch process tools where one engineer can kick off like thousands of simulations if they want um and that's partly why the system analysis part of the business or the simulation part of the business is the most profitable part of our software business uh because in in all cases our expenses are generally tethered to the you know r&d and ae engineers required uh to support the software but the revenue is not tethered in in relation to simulation um it's not tethered to the number of engineers uh the in simulation licenses and i think um
spk04: uh that's why that's why we see that being more profitable understood thanks very much our next question coming from the line of gary monthly with with los fargo your line is open hey everyone good afternoon thanks for taking my question i want to ask about the newest round of export restrictions from the u.s commerce department targeting china and uh and about half a dozen super compute companies i realize not all those are specifically focusing on developing processors but presumably you know a handful of those companies are are cadence customers with respect to those specific customers or any other export restrictions you know what way has that impacted your your ability to do business in china yeah this is a liberal let me just have a
spk05: answer that first, and then John or Anurag can add on to it. So first of all, clearly we have and will continue to comply with all the export control regulations, including the military end user and the entity list that you mentioned. But clearly, we are not going into comment on any specific companies. But everything we know, we already built into our guidance.
spk04: OK. And, John, can you confirm if that roughly $190 million, as reported in your cash flow statement, was the amount paid for NMECA in the first quarter and how much you would expect from both PointWise and NMECA as a contributor to 2021? Sure.
spk07: Hi, Gary. Nice try. I mean, we're not disclosing those separately, but we're very, very pleased with both acquisitions and delighted to have them as part of the Cadence family.
spk15: All right. Thank you, guys.
spk01: Our next question coming from the line of John Pincer with Credit Suisse. Your line is open.
spk16: Yeah, good afternoon, guys. Thanks for letting me ask the question. John, I just want to go back to your commentary about some of the headwinds that you see this year. I think I understand the COVID India issue. I'm still a little bit confused by the royalty because even though we're in a very tight chip capacity market, unit volumes and revenue should be up pretty significantly year over year for the industry. Can you help me better understand what's causing the royalty kind of headwind in kind of your volume-based businesses?
spk07: yeah john uh good question it's um like last quarter i thought uh for the year i thought we'd be flat because of unit volumes we weren't expecting any improvement in unit volumes and in fact in q1 i think our royalty revenue for q1 was flat on q1 uh 2020 but the forecast looking out over the next three quarters and my team goes through uh you know a detailed analysis it depends on i guess the mix of customers that we have and the unit volumes that they have But their forecast suggests that we'll be slightly down now, and that's headwinds being built into our forecast. So I don't mean that to be a commentary on the entire industry. It's just in relation to the customers that we generate royalty revenue from. We expect their unit volume to be down.
spk16: Is there any way to characterize sort of end market that those customers play into, or is that a level of detail you're not willing to give? uh no we can't give that sorry no that's helpful and then as my follow-up maybe another way to ask sort of gary's question about restrictions i'm just kind of curious when you think about the full year guide what what's embedded for china and i'm clearly asking because while i understand sort of the geographic mix broadened out in the current quarter you know china was down significantly and there there are some investor concerns that maybe the back half of last year Representative Paul Ford, as you think about the full year guide, is there any sort of broad strokes you can give us on how you feel like China is going to trend for the rest of the year within that guide?
spk07: Yeah, John, I backed into the guide for China, basically expecting us to mean revert back to our normal mix of business between upfront and recurring revenue. In the second half of last year, we had more upfront revenue than average, and particularly in China. And I wasn't happy to extrapolate that for all of 2021 because I felt that the second half looked like an anomaly. So I thought for guidance purposes and to be conservative, we would assume that we may revert back to our normal recurring revenue mix right in the middle of that 85% to 90% range that we normally have for the company, even though China is probably slightly more upfront than that. My expectation then is that China is very hard to predict, but somewhere in the 12% to 13% range for revenue, and that's where it came out for Q1. So, that's what we've embedded into the guide. We'll have better visibility once we get to the middle of the year and we'll update then. But we're kind of assuming we revert back to mean, and I thought that was the best way to de-risk the year for China.
spk16: Perfect. Very helpful. Thank you, John. Okay.
spk01: Our next question coming from the line-up. Tom Nesley with DA Davidson. Your line is open.
spk03: Yeah, thank you, and good afternoon. Maybe, John, just one more question on the really strong quarter for hardware projects. Did the incentives impact your margins at all in the quarter in any meaningful way?
spk07: I would say it did, naturally. The extra revenue would have boosted margins in Q1 at the expense of Q2, but that would only be a shift between one quarter and the other. The delay in hiring would have benefited Q1 and also benefited the year. We expect to catch up with the hiring, but of course, because we didn't hire in Q1 as quickly as we thought, those savings are both in Q1 and the year.
spk03: I was wondering more if the incentives included discounts, so the pricing went down in the first quarter.
spk07: Oh, so the incentives that I'm sorry, let me clarify. The incentives I was talking about were more sales incentives for our sales team, not incentives for customers.
spk03: All right. And then a longer-term question for maybe Anirudh or Lipvu. When you look at the node transitions in the industry and, you know, whether it goes between, you know, every two years or every three years, how impactful is that duration between nodes for you if the underlying demand is still strong?
spk05: I can start first and then Anirudh can chip in. You know, clearly I think the complexity and the complexity dynamic of the demand is very strong on that five generation of waves. And so we are excited. We don't see any slowdown on the design. In terms of process node migrations, clearly I'm marching forward down to five in production and three in design. Who is engaging right now? But clearly there's a lot of demand on that. We are very heavily investing in that because every node is a new opportunity for us. And we are very excited about it. In terms of the technology and process, maybe Andrew can update you where we are.
spk13: Yeah, thank you, Labu. And I just want to add that, I mean, one exciting thing is not only the, I believe the node transitions are continuing, you know, in terms of R&D, we are mostly working on two nanometer now, you know, three nanometer is an early kind of design activity. But what is also promising, which you already know, is that there are multiple foundries doing these advanced nodes. So I think overall the industry seems pretty healthy. Not just, you know, there are several key foundries all working on advanced nodes. So we are optimistic, and like Libu said, we see a lot of activity at these advanced nodes. And that coupled with 3DIC at these advanced nodes, I think there is a lot of design activity that we see.
spk03: So when a FAB comes out with a new flavor of the same node, that's almost as helpful to you as a new node would be?
spk13: I think that just depends on the customer adoption. I mean, there is some work we do from an R&D standpoint to get ready for a new node or a variant of the same node. Now, the work on variant of the same node is less than R&D work for a new node. So it just depends on, you know, from a work standpoint. But in terms of customer adoption, it depends which nodes the customers will adopt, and we are glad to work with them in whichever flavor they choose based on their requirements.
spk03: Okay. Thank you.
spk01: Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder to ask a question, please press Far 1 on your telephone keypad. Our next question coming from the lineup, Pradeep Ramani with UPS. Yolanda, it's open.
spk02: Hi. Thanks for taking the question. I have a couple of questions on system analysis. Maybe the first question. is now that you have the mecca and pointwise uh do you feel like you have more or less the solution that you need to sort of scale uh both my kind pointwise together or do you feel like it has to be finally bolted onto a cold cadence platform and integrated more and if so what does sort of the r d investment environment and even maybe the go-to-market investment environment look like you know, time horizon look like? Is it sort of a one-year thing or is it a longer duration sort of an investment cycle?
spk13: Yeah, that's a great question. So, first of all, we do feel pretty good about PointWise and Numeca, like I mentioned. And they are good technologies. They already have some scale and we can scale them more with our, you know, Salesforce and customer connections. At the same time, we will enhance them with our organic technologies of parallel and distributed computing. So we will definitely enhance them further. And like Libu and John mentioned, I think all these investments are built into our guidance, and we feel good already. So at this point, we already have significant scale R&D investment in system analysis because of clarity and other products. So we feel good in terms of the amount of R&D we have already invested and go from there. But I think the bottom line, we feel that the point was Numeca and our organic development, we have a lot of capabilities to scale it in the CFD market.
spk02: Okay. As my follow-up, in terms of sort of AWR, can you sort of update us on how AWR is doing in terms of more customer traction and sort of maybe year-over-year growth as part of your system analysis business?
spk13: Yes, definitely. So as you know, our system analysis business, if you compare it from Q1 last year to Q1 this year, is up significantly, right, close to 30%. And AWR is a key part of that. There is some part of it that is M&A, but organically also, or after acquisition, both AWR and EMX, you know, Intergrant are going well, growing well. And if you've seen Libu's prepared comments, we mentioned Qualcomm's expanded use of AWR and, you know, Clarity. So we don't break it out separately, these different products, but overall they're growing well, and we are happy of AWR and integrand growth after acquisition bias. And because we can provide a more complete solution along with virtual, so clarity, you know, the overall Allegro, the overall system design and analysis solution.
spk02: Thank you.
spk01: Our next question coming from with West Park Capital.
spk08: Thank you. John, I had a quick follow-up on the chip supply situation. Obviously, you're talking about impacts on your full year, and you've given us full-year guidance for 2021. You know, the commentary from the industry has been sort of all over the place in terms of when we might see some improvement with some folks thinking as soon as second half. Just wondering if you have any perspective on how you're thinking about seeing some improvement in supply and when that might impact your business. Is it a 2022 event?
spk07: Sure, Ruben. The forecast that my team provided me looked like there was softness in Q2 and Q3 for the particular mix of customers that we generate IP royalty revenue from. And it looked like it was recovering in Q4. I think that gets your point. But again, I don't mean for this to be any commentary on the industry in any way. It's just the mix of customers that we recognize royalty revenue from.
spk08: Okay. Yeah, I appreciate that.
spk07: We're not seeing any slowdown in activity.
spk08: Right, right. Okay. Thanks for that. I'm trying to get as many data points as I can. And I guess just a quick follow-up for Anirudh or Lutbu, just on sort of your customers. You talked about Foundry a little bit here, but a large North American customer obviously is getting back again into the Foundry business and has cited early partnerships with you and your competitor. Just wondering – You know, if you have any perspective to add on, you know, what's going on here with that customer and if you're seeing any benefits coming from things like U.S. Chips Act or things like that on your business as you look over the next several years.
spk05: I think, you know, more manufacturing in U.S. is fairly welcome. And, of course, any new foundry or expansion is always good for us in terms of tool and IP enablement. And so we're excited for the opportunity, and then it will increase the design activity and also meet the customer requirement for the advanced nodes and packaging also. So I think overall, we think it's a positive development, and we welcome that opportunity to provide the service and the design tool and IP to enable them.
spk08: Great. Thank you, Lupec.
spk01: Thank you. Now, last question coming from the line of Vivek Arya with Bank of America. Your line is open.
spk11: Lippu, I just wanted to kind of follow up on your last commentary about U.S. manufacturing. I'm curious, if there is more U.S.-based manufacturing and packaging and other activities, is that incremental to your business, or is that just a substitute for what you're doing in other regions?
spk05: Yeah, it's very hard to tell, but I think overall it should be a net increase because clearly now we are very excited. We have a deep partnership with TSMC, Samsung of the world. Anything new, they need a lot more IP in terms of optimizing, and also they have their own process and PDK. So I think overall, from my point of view, I think it will be a net increase. And then, you know, we're happy to help. And then at the end of the day, if not the foundry, the EDA, and then how to meet our customer requirements, when they want to move into a new foundry, they need a lot of different tools and optimization and process and library. And overall, I think we'll be in that improvement class.
spk11: Got it. Very helpful. And then, John, maybe one for you on operating margins. So Q1, I think at about 38, I think Q2, you're guiding to 36, if my model is right. But for the full year, you're guiding to 35 to 36. So suggesting back half will be lower, right? And back half of this year could even be lower than what you had in second half of last year. Obviously, you had the one extra week of last year. But I'm just curious, how are you thinking about leverage in the model? And more importantly, When do you think you can get back to this rule of 50 that you were able to achieve before?
spk07: Yeah, good questions, Vivek. I mean, we don't see any near-term ceiling on operating margins. I was glad to see that even with the outlook at 35.5% at the midpoint, that I think we're now at 50% incremental margins comparing 2021 to 2019. As long as we're delivering incremental margins of 50%, that clearly there's operating leverage in the model. What you're seeing in the impact, the reason that operating margins are slightly lower in the second half, it's the combination of two acquisitions and delayed hiring activity into the second half. Also, we have a merit cycle that kicks in on July 1st. But with all that said, we're heavily investing in building out a multi-physics platform for the future. Like I say, there's no near-term ceiling to that operating leverage.
spk16: Thank you.
spk07: No worries.
spk01: Ladies and gentlemen, that's all the time we have for questions today. I would now like to turn the call back over to Little Ten for closing remarks.
spk05: Thank you all for joining us this afternoon. I'm very excited about the growing market opportunity and the business momentum so far in 2021. Our intelligent system design strategy is playing out very nicely as we benefit from the new opportunities in design excellence, system innovation, and pervasive intelligence, and an expanded total addressable market. I'm very pleased also to share that Fortune and The Great Place to Work have honored us as one of the 2021 100 best companies to work for, which marks Hayden's seventh year in the role being named in this prestigious list. Hayden was recognized as one of the best companies to work for thanks to our outstanding people-first culture and the history of innovation. And lastly, on behalf of our employees and our board of directors, we want to thank our customers and partners for their continued trust and confidence during these unprecedented times.
spk01: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's Kaden's first quarter 2021 earnings conference call. This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect.
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