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spk07: Good morning. My name is Grant. I will be the conference operator today. I would like to welcome you to the Canopy Growth First Quarter Fiscal 2023 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. I would like to turn the call over to Tyler Burns, Director of Investor Relations. Tyler, you may begin the conference call.
spk08: Good morning. Thank you all for joining us. On our call today, we have Canopy's Chief Executive Officer, David Klein. and Chief Financial Officer Judy Hong. Before financial markets opened today, Canopy issued a news release announcing our financial results for our first quarter ended June 30th, 2022. This news release is available on our website under the Investors tab and will be filed on EDGAR and CDAR. We have also posted a supplemental earnings presentation on our website. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that our discussion during this call will include forward-looking statements that are based on management's current view and assumptions, and that this discussion is qualified in its entirety by the cautionary note regarding forward-looking statements included at the end of this morning's news release. Please review today's earnings release and Canopy's reports filed with the SEC and CDAR for various factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from projections. In addition, Reconciliations between any non-GAAP measures to their closest reported GAAP measures are included in our earnings release. Please note that all financial information is provided in Canadian dollars unless otherwise noted. Following prepared remarks by David and Judy, we will conduct a question and answer session where we will first address questions uploaded by verified shareholders using the SAI Technologies platform. Following that, we will take questions from analysts. To ensure that we get to as many questions as possible, we ask analysts to limit themselves to one question. With that, I will turn the call over to David. David, please go ahead.
spk16: Thank you, Tyler. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call. Today, I'll provide an update on our progress in Q1 against the strategic priorities that we've outlined for canopy. Judy will then discuss our Q1 results, including an update on our path to profitability and provide additional comments on our short-term outlook. During our last conference call, I highlighted three clear strategic initiatives for Canopy. And in Q1, we made strides against all three priorities. One, in Canada, we stabilized our revenue and market share performance, improved cash margins, and we're on track to achieve profitability in Canada as soon as possible. Two, as part of our CPG portfolio, BioSteel had record quarterly revenue and stores in Bickel, despite a temporary headwind, is still on track for growth this year. And three, we've continued to strengthen our USTHC ecosystem to ensure Canopy is positioned to lead in the largest cannabis market in the world. Starting with our Canadian cannabis business, We saw stabilization of Canopy's share of our core segments through Q1 and continue to deliver a positive mixed shift. During the quarter, our premium and mainstream sales accounted for a combined 58% of our Canadian recreational B2B sales, up from 50% last year. Let me provide highlights in our core segments, starting with premium flower and pre-rolls. In the first quarter, we continued to lead with a number one market share. helped by strong consumer response to innovation. This includes launching 11 new premium flower strains and pre-roll offerings in the quarter under our 7 Acres and Doja brands, including the new 7 Acres Jack Hayes bubble hash infused pre-rolls. Consumer response to these new infused pre-rolls, which combine 7 Acres Jack Hayes flower that connoisseurs love with bubble hash from Jack Hayes input, generated robust demand that exceeded our expectations. We're actively working to scale our bubble hash production to increase our supply of infused pre-rolls, including additional SKUs expected to launch later this year. We saw a similar response to new Doja OG Deluxe flour, a 26% THC flour grown in our Smith Falls facility. Our initial four-week supply to the OCS sold out in less than two weeks, and we're actively replenishing supply. This helped power our Doja brand to strong performance in the quarter with its market share in premium flour in pre-rolls, increasing to 2.1%. Next, touching on our core mainstream flour and pre-roll segment. We're pleased with the response to our Tweed rebrand. which has generated strong consumer demand for the brand's recent flour, pre-roll, beverage, and edible innovations. New Tweed-branded Tiger Cake, Wedding Cake, and Kush Mints flour strains launched in Q1 contributed to the brand's positive performance. The resurgence of the Tweed brand has enabled us to maintain our overall share of the mainstream flour and pre-roll joint market. Another key component of our premiumization strategy has been revamping our beverage portfolio, an effort that has seen us bring a range of 5-milligram beverages to market under the Tweed Iced Tea and Tweed Fizz brands, while also expanding our Deep Space 10-milligram beverage lineup. Strong demand for Tweed Iced Tea and Fizz beverages during Q1 helped maintain Tweed's number one rank in the 5-milligram THC and under segment. with Tweed's share of the RTD beverage market increasing to 10.4%. Deep Space also gained share of the RTD beverage market in Q1. We've established a multi-year new product pipeline, which has been critical to securing expanded distribution in key provincial markets. We secured 17 new listings in Alberta, 20 in Ontario, and 23 in Quebec, all of which are now available or will be over the next few months. And we're backing these high-quality products with a strong on-the-ground presence. As I highlighted during our last call, we're continuing to invest in our commercial ground game in Canada, including through Higher Education, our bud tender engagement program. Since launching, this program has facilitated over 6,000 bud tender interactions focused primarily on education and product knowledge to drive bud tender recommendations. Our investment in innovation distribution, and bud tender engagement are expected to help drive revenue growth in the Canadian rec market. Let's turn to our progress against driving the growth of our high-potential CPG brands. Q1 was a record quarter for BioSteel with revenue of $18 million, and we feel this brand truly has the potential to transform the sports hydration market. A notable highlight in Q1 was welcoming Walmart as a BioSteel RTD retailer in the U.S. This initial agreement will bring BioSteel RTD beverages to 2,200 Walmart stores across 39 states. Initial shipments began in June, and we expect additional shipments to these stores over the coming months. We're also pleased to welcome Bruce Jacobson to the BioSteel team in the new role of president. Bruce, together with co-founders John Salenza and Mike Camilleri, will be responsible for accelerating the growth of BioSteel. Bruce joins BioSteel with a wealth of experience from the beverage industry, including as an experienced brand builder and business strategist who has led organizations to best-in-class growth. Another important growth driver for BioSteel is the multi-year partnership naming BioSteel as the official hydration partner of the NHL and the NHL Players Association. This agreement provides BioSteel with league-wide ringside marketing and product supply rights, retail activation rights, and a community engagement platform. Beginning in the 22-23 NHL season, fans will see NHL players hydrating with BioSteel during 1,400 games each season. We're off to a fast start with this partnership, having signed distribution agreements with several new retail chains in priority NHL markets, representing over 1,100 doors, and are in positive discussions with additional retailers. We see the investment in this partnership as a key element of increasing BioSteel brand awareness, distribution, and trial, which is critical to growing BioSteel to be a top five sports hydration beverage over time. With the ongoing load-in into additional retailers, as well as increases in sales velocity driven by our brand activations, we're expecting to see a significant jump in BioSteel sales over coming quarters. Now speaking to Storz & Bickel. With innovation coming to market in the coming months, designed to excite the brand's loyal consumer following, we believe Storz & Bickel is set up for growth over the remainder of the year. The continued effort of our team to work around third-party challenges will allow Storz & Bickel to defend its position as the global leading premium vaporizer brand. Looking to the U.S. and our THC ecosystem, we hold an option to acquire Acreage Holdings, we hold a sizable stake in Terrasyn, and we've paid for majority ownership of Juana Brands and Jetty Extracts. These agreements provide us with a strong foundation to enable rapid entry into the USTHC market as soon as we can and is a unique platform to realize our ambition of becoming the leading brand-driven cannabis company in North America. Our business, when consolidated with Acreage, Juana, and Jetty, generates over $1 billion in revenue with strong gross margins. Further, our USTHC ecosystem has significant room to grow within large addressable markets, including high growth states in the Northeast, such as New Jersey and New York. And in the case of Jetty, the opportunity to expand beyond California as the brand is scaled nationally. Looking to acreage, their team made solid progress in the quarter ended March 31, 22, with revenue increasing 40% year over year. while they delivered their fifth consecutive quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA. In April 2022, Acreage commenced recreational cannabis operations in New Jersey with their flagship brand, The Botanist, now available for consumers in multiple dispensaries across the state. We also continue to monitor developments leading to the opening of the rec market in New York, which we also see Acreage Well positioned to succeed in. Juana saw significant growth from April to June, both in footprint and innovation. Juana entered new markets, including Puerto Rico and Arkansas, and began onboarding three additional states. Juana is delivering exciting NPD with the launch of Spectrum Live Rosin Gummies. These gummies have resonated with consumers, quickly ranking highly in the competitive Colorado edible market. Juana is advancing well with a robust pipeline of new consumer-focused products while entering new markets to capture consumers looking for high-quality products that deliver against desired need states. Finally, to illustrate our vision as a North American brand-driven cannabis company, we're excited to be actively working on bringing the Jetty brand and its innovative products to the Canadian market as soon as possible. We look forward to delighting consumers north of the border with Jetty's unique vape technology. We expect to have more to say about this effort over the coming months. The footprint and capabilities of our USTHC ecosystem continue to grow. We're strengthening our competitive positioning and emphasizing fast growth categories backed by a balanced operational footprint that is primed for rapid growth. In summary, We've built and continue to strengthen the industry's strongest North American premium branded cannabis company. With that, I'll turn it over to Judy.
spk09: Thank you very much, David, and good morning, everyone. I plan to focus my comments this morning on one, a brief review of our first quarter results. Two, provide an update on our progress on our path to achieve profitability. And three, provide some perspectives on our outlook. So let's start with a review of our Q1 fiscal 23 financial results. In Q1, we had strong performance from our international cannabis businesses, BioSteel had its best revenue quarter ever, and the Canadian business stabilized its revenue. Growth margin and adjusted EBITDA also improved sequentially compared to Q4 as we began to execute on our cost savings initiative that we announced in April. We generated net revenue of 110 million, representing a 19% decline over the prior year, but down just 1% compared to Q4. Excluding the impact from divestiture of C3, net revenue in Q1 increased 1% as compared to Q4. In our cannabis segment, our international medical cannabis business showed strong year-over-year growth led by triple-digit growth in Australia, and bulk sales to Israel. Canadian recreational business showed stable revenue compared to the prior quarter as our premiumization strategy is beginning to drive improved performance. In our consumer product segment, record quarterly revenue at BioSteel in Q1 was partially offset by a decline in stores and vehicle sales. Sales of stores and vehicle vaporizers during Q1 fiscal 23 were negatively impacted by a few headwinds. The first and primary headwind was financial challenges facing our largest distributor in the U.S., which caused the distributor to pause ordering devices in Q1. We're actively working to reestablish ordering patterns that were lost during Q1. The second headwind is slowing consumer spending power in the current high inflationary environment across SMB's key markets. Given the high ticket associated with SMB's premium vaporizers, we are seeing more moderate sales in Europe and North America, which is consistent with headwinds felt across the luxury product segments in a range of industries. The third headwind was ongoing supply challenges. We have spoken about this in the past, and specifically the difficulties related to the supply of chipsets. This has negatively impacted stores and vehicles margins in Q1. Our procurement, engineering, and manufacturing teams are working hard to identify solutions for these challenges, including alternate components and suppliers, and we expect this to be manageable. Our reported gross margins in Q1 was negative 1%, and our adjusted gross margin was positive 2%. Consumer product segments adjusted gross margin of 34% was an improvement compared to 32% a year ago, as the negative mid-shift driven by lower stores and Bickel sales was offset by improved gross margin performance at biofuel, driven in part by volume growth. Adjusted gross margin in the global cannabis segment was a negative 18%, which continued to be impacted by price compression, lower product output, and non-cash inventory write-offs in the Canadian business. I'll provide more details on our gross margin performance a bit later on. Adjusted EBITDA in Q1 amounted to a loss of $75 million. This was an improvement compared to Q4, driven by lower inventory write-offs and declines in SG&A expenses, which stem from our cost savings program. Normalizing for the disposition of C3 and the impact of the payroll subsidy benefits, adjusted EBITDA in Q1 of FY23 would have improved by $9 million or 10% from the prior year period. I'd like to now provide an update on the efforts underway to improve our profitability. First, digging deeper into gross margins, both our adjusted gross margin and cash gross margin in the global cannabis segment improved compared to Q4 of fiscal 22. Specifically, when adjusted for non-cash inventory charges, depreciation costs, and the benefits on payroll subsidies, our cash growth margin in global cannabis segment is estimated to be at positive 10% in Q1, which is an improvement versus negative cash growth margin during fiscal 22. The improvement is attributable to two main drivers. Number one, our mix continues to improve towards high margin products in the Canadian recreational business. As we deliberately shifted away from low-margin value flower sales, our net sales from value segment has further declined to 43% of total B2B sales in Q1, compared to 56% during the prior year period. Number two, our cost savings program is driving reduction in our overall cost of goods sold, where we have committed to delivering savings of $30 to $50 million over the next 12 to 18 months. Some of these savings are being offset by higher wage inflation and supply chain costs, but we plan to continue looking for additional opportunities to capture more savings. And while the majority of these savings are expected to be recognized in the second half of fiscal 23 and into the first half of fiscal 24, we did achieve over $4 million of savings in Q1 of fiscal 23, primarily relating to headcount reductions more efficient procurement activities, and supply chain improvements. We expect our cash growth margin to improve significantly over the balance of fiscal 23, driven by continued progress on our premiumization strategy, as well as savings from the cost reduction program underway. The other key initiative is reducing our SG&A expenses, where last quarter we announced that we have undertaken actions that we expect will reduce our SG&A expenses by 70 to $100 million over the next 12 to 18 months. For selling general and administrative expenses in the first quarter decreased 8% versus prior year. However, adjusting for the disposition of C3 and the impact of payroll subsidy benefits, which was significantly lower in Q1 of fiscal 23 versus 22, SG&A expenses in the first quarter decreased by 13% or $16 million on a year-over-year basis. The reduction in our SG&A expenses are coming from reduced headcount across our businesses as we have further tightened our strategic focus and streamlined our business. In addition, we expect declines in professional fees, office costs, insurance fees, and IT costs throughout the year. We'd also note that some of these reductions are being offset by our strategic investment in key growth areas such as , where we are increasing our advertising and marketing spending to increase brand awareness and drive velocity at retail. Let me now spend a few minutes on our cash flow and balance sheet. Our free cash flow in Q1 was an outflow of 143 million. This comprised of cash from operations of a negative 141 million, which includes 26 million in interest payments, and change in the working capital, which was negatively impacted by one-time severance payments during Q1, which was related to our restructuring action. Q1 capex came in at 2 million, significantly lower compared to a year ago. For the full year 2023, we now expect CapEx to be in the range of 30 to 40 million. We remain focused on reducing our cash burns through OpEx discipline, tight working capital management, and continued discipline around our CapEx investment through FY23. Turning to our balance sheet, at the end of the first quarter, we announced an exchange transaction of the 4.25% convertible unsecured notes due in July 23, which reduced our debt obligations by $263 million. This has reduced our overall debt position and is expected to save the cash interest of around $12 million on an annualized basis. For the full year fiscal 23, we now anticipate cash interest payments of at least $130 million, incorporating lower interest costs on the convert notes, but higher interest expenses on the term loan that's tied to increase in LIBOR. Regarding the remaining convertible notes, we have several options that we're currently reviewing and will update once we have any additional news to share. Our balance sheet remains strong with $1.2 billion of cash at our quarter end. We have $2 billion U.S. dollars of base shelf available to us, as well as additional debt capacity of $500 million U.S. dollars. We also expect proceeds from sale of previously announced facility closures and look for additional opportunities to divest non-core assets. Let me now provide some perspectives on our outlook. We continue to expect the execution of our premiumization strategy in Canada, our cost savings initiatives, and growth in BioSteel and stores and vehicles will over time result in strong revenue growth and margin profile and free cash flow generation that are in line with premium branded CPG company. In terms of the balance of fiscal 23 outlook, first, we expect continued strong growth from BioSteel as the team builds on the growth in the first quarter with increased marketing investments driving higher distribution and gains in sales velocity. Our Canadian recreational B2B business is expected to show improved performance as it benefits from premiumization efforts and new product launches with the growth weighted towards the second half of the year. Europe and rest of the world business is expected to show year-over-year growth in medical sales in Germany, Australia, and other international medical markets, while sales to Israel are expected to be lumpy. And while the distributor challenges and economic conditions in the first quarter created some headwinds for stores in Bickel, we're actively working to address U.S. distribution and to opportunistically use marketing investments to drive growth joins with innovation efforts. Our U.S. CBD business will continue to see a tighter focus against our brand with emphasis on the e-comm channel and key directorship accounts as we await for future regulatory progress. We do note that we did benefit from more than $2 million in one-time crude sales in Q1 in the U.S., which won't be recurring. From a phasing standpoint, we expect revenue growth year-over-year to be weighted to the back half, reflecting continued mix away from value flower that began in earnest in mid-fiscal 22 and the timing of our new product shipments in Canada. Second, we continue to expect fiscal 23 to show improvement in our profitability with expectation of the year being a transition year, as we work towards profitability, building on the cost structure improvements we've seen in the first quarter, while also making strategic investments in key growth areas of our business. We remain on track to achieve positive adjusted EBITDA in fiscal 24, excluding our strategic investments in BioSteel and USTHC. In conclusion, we are advancing towards achieving profitability while we continue to invest in high potential growth opportunities, And as David mentioned, our business generates $1 billion in revenue with healthy and sustainable margin when consolidated with Acreage, Lana, and Jetty, and is well positioned to deliver strong, profitable growth long term. This includes my prepared comments. We'll now take any questions. To begin our Q&A session, we'll first address investor questions. that were upvoted through the question and answer platform developed by Say Technologies. Tyler, can you please take the first question?
spk08: What are the biggest challenges facing the company and how are you going to address them?
spk09: Great. I'll take that first question. I would say from a challenger standpoint, it really stems from the fact that The Canada market has really developed very differently than we had initially expected. Market fragmentation, illicit markets still being a pretty sizable component of the market, has really developed differently than we had initially anticipated. We also saw very slow progress from a regulatory standpoint on both sides of the border, both THC, CBD from a U.S. standpoint, as well as a lot of the regulatory hurdles that we're continuing to face from a Canadian market. And then I would say the third challenge has really been we had a large footprint from a Canada and global standpoint, and we have streamlined a lot of the footprint that we've had, but we continue to see some underutilizations of those facilities, which has impaired our margins more negatively than we had anticipated. In terms of how we're really addressing it, I think it goes back to the priorities that David really mentioned. First, in terms of Canada, we're really looking to focus on high margin premium and mainstream categories. And we think that the efforts that have been underway are starting to bear fruit. When you look at some of the new products in the marketplace, we are getting really good feedback from We're getting really good comments from consumers on social media now. So, we do think that we're on track to really see that effort being realized in terms of better financial performance in the coming quarters. From a regulatory standpoint, we do hope that we get more progress done in both sides of the border, but we're not waiting. We have already built a very strong ecosystem from a USTHC standpoint. And we're really working to optimize our investments in U.S. as soon as we can. And then thirdly, as I said earlier, we have cost savings programs that are underway that will really generate more cost savings and improve our profitability. You've seen our cash growth margin improve on a sequential basis, and we would expect that to continue over the course of the year. David, anything to add?
spk16: No, I think you covered it well, Judy. Maybe the only ad that I would have is that we need to continue to focus on a few key things, a few key areas where we feel we can win, which is building premium and mainstream brands on both sides of the border and continuing to build out our go-to-market capabilities as evidenced by the work we've been doing in Canada with what we refer to as our ground game, where we're out at retail and we're engaging with our consumers and our retailers and our bud tenders. As this entire industry goes through transition after transition after transition, we just need to be prepared with strong brands and in a good route to market capabilities and strong people who are capable of being agile.
spk08: The second question from the SAIT technology platform is this. If federal cannabis reform does not pass in the U.S. in the short term, how do you expect to expand your company and fight for top brand globally?
spk16: Yeah, so look, there's no doubt that we put heavy emphasis on the U.S. market, which is evolving as we just discussed more slowly than we would like. Keep in mind today that today two-thirds of Americans already live in a location that has access to cannabis in some format, but the federal government still refuses to recognize that reality. So putting that aside, as Judy said, we're not waiting. We continue to see the U.S. as the largest and most important market in the world. We've assembled a strong portfolio across North America that continues to grow and develop without a permissibility event. So the businesses like Juana and Jetty and Acreage continue to grow their businesses and perform well and expand their offerings even prior to a permissibility event. And when you think about our When you think about our portfolio or the offerings that we can take out on sales calls, they include premium brands like Storrs and Bickel, Juana, Jetty, Doja, Seven Acres, Deep Space, which all have opportunities to expand across the U.S. and Canada. And history shows us that strong North American brands tend to do well globally. So that's why we continue to focus on our brand building here. And so, you know, I would say maybe the good news is that absent federal permissibility in the U.S., these brands continue to grow in terms of geographies, in terms of offerings, and they can continue to build consumer loyalty. So we think that we'll be prepared at some point to bring this all together as a consolidated entity that represents a very strong premium branded cannabis company in North America, and then we'll take those brands elsewhere in the world. With that, operator, we're now happy to take questions from those in the queue.
spk07: To ensure an efficient call that gets questions to as many analysts as possible, analysts are requested to limit themselves to one question. The Q&A is now open. Your first question comes from Pablo Zuancic from Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead.
spk10: Thank you. Good morning. David, it's a very simple, straightforward question, but does passage of SAFE as written constitute your triggering event or the permissibility event that you've talked about? Thanks.
spk16: Yeah. So, Pablo, and I know you and I have talked about this before. The passage of SAFE with the right language could get us there. I think it remains to be seen exactly what language ends up in the final bill because we've seen a few alternatives, but we're going to look at that really hard and try to get to the place where we can as soon as possible with whatever form of legislation really take control of our entire ecosystem.
spk07: Your next question comes from Tammy Chan from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
spk15: Your second question, operator. Oh, can you hear me? It's Tammy.
spk14: Sorry?
spk08: Tammy, I think it's Tyler Burns here. I think you were next in the queue. The next question is from Tammy. Yes. Thank you.
spk01: Yes. Okay. Thank you. Hopefully you guys can hear me. Good morning, everyone. Question for me is on the OpEx or SG&A. There's just a couple of moving parts here. So, Judy, this is probably mainly for you. How should we think about just this entire fiscal year going forward with respect to the SG&A line? Like, should we think that there is going to be decent improvement year over year? Because we also have to think about just inflationary pressures, the investment in bio steel. I think there's also some noise with respect to employee bonus accruals later in the year. So anything you can give to help us understand how the overall SG&A line might trend compared to last fiscal year? Thank you.
spk09: Yeah, Tammy. So I'll take that and give you some buckets of how I would think about the SG&A. So setting aside the advertising and marketing spending, because to your point, there's some investments that we're making from a BioSteel standpoint. But when you think about sales and marketing overhead, when you think about G&A expenses, and when you think about the R&D expenses, all three buckets of our
spk06: Sorry for the interruption. It appears the host dropped. I will put the call on hold and we will call them back.
spk14: One second. Hello, sorry, sorry for that interruption.
spk07: We will, we will go ahead with the conference as planned.
spk08: Okay. Could you please have us an opportunity to repeat the question that was answered by Miss Tammy Chan? Apparently people on the call could not hear Judy's response. So if we could back up for the question for Judy, please.
spk07: Judy, please go ahead with your question again.
spk09: Yes, so I'm addressing Tammy's questions around OPEX in FI2023. So, Tammy, I think I wanted to just give you some, a few highlights and a few buckets on how to think about SG&A in FI2023. So, setting aside advertising and marketing expenses, because to your point, we are going to have some increases as it relates to buyer's deals, but when you look at our, selling and marketing overhead. When you look at our R&D expenses and our G&A expenses, we do expect the benefit of our cost savings program that we announced, the $70 to $100 million over the next 12 to 18 months, to benefit all three buckets within our SG&A. Now, some of the phasing of the savings will accrue as we go through FY23, so not all of that will hit in the near term, but I think when you think about the savings that we announced, we expect the selling and marketing, GNA, and R&D, all of those three buckets to benefit from the cost savings program. Now, the other consideration is some of the moving parts on a year-over-year basis. When you look at FY22, we did have the benefit of payroll subsidy that benefited the GNA expenses. After Q1, we no longer have any subsidy benefits that we will be benefiting from, so the comp will get tougher from that perspective. And then in Q4, we did have the bonus accruals get reversed as we did meet our targets last year, so we'll have some of that year-over-year comparison being not as favorable in Q4. But overall, I do expect that from a total SG&A expenses in terms of selling and marketing overhead, G&A and R&D expenses to be down on a year-for-year basis, normalizing even for those factors.
spk15: Thank you.
spk14: Your next question comes from Vivian Nazer from Cohen & Co.
spk07: Please go ahead.
spk17: Hi, good morning. This is actually Victor Ma for Vivian Azar, and thank you for taking the question. On BioStew, the results this quarter are encouraging, and we're seeing solid growth in sales per store in data. Can you discuss how the velocity improvement for BioStew is measuring up to your internal expectations?
spk16: Yeah, you cut out, Victor. So, I think you were talking about velocity. so so yeah um now velocity is something that um uh that that grows with execution once uh you know once once a product's been on the shelf for a little bit right so we're seeing and and it benefits from uh in-store execution by our our sales teams as well as um uh consumer awareness so we're seeing uh period over period improvements in velocity we're not We're not entirely where we want to be yet, but that's just because of where we are in the introduction cycle. And we believe that additional activities around awareness like the NHL sponsorship will help us hit those velocity hurdles that we're shooting for. But early signs are encouraging, but it's probably, it's too early to say that we're there yet, but early signs are very encouraging.
spk14: Your next question comes from Andrew Carter from Stiefel.
spk07: Please go ahead.
spk12: Hey, thanks. Good morning. I want to ask, I want to zoom in on Stortz and Bickel. Down 35% per quarter, and I think early on you said it can grow this year, which would be 13% over the back nine. I guess kind of what gives you that confidence and kind of help us understand backup. I know you use distributors. How much of that is DTC where you have direct visibility into the consumer, and how does the DTC part of your business kind of compare to kind of the distribution and shipment? Thanks.
spk16: Yeah, so the confidence comes from we're still seeing really good consumer takeaway, and we just had some issues with distributor during the quarter in the U.S., I'm talking, which we expect will remedy itself over time. And so, you know, we and the brand continues to resonate really well with its consumer base. And we also have some incremental innovation that will hit the market over the course of the year. So in general, that's what gives us confidence. We're actually doing some work, Andrew, to try to bring more of this stores and Bickel activity onto our own platforms and maybe control our destiny a little bit more. But that's a longer build. It gives you a better financial profile. It just takes longer to get to. That's work that's going on, but I don't suspect that we'll see significant benefits from D2C or our own online B2B activities affecting the business this year.
spk14: Your next question comes from Aaron Gray from Alive Global Partners. Please go ahead. Hi, good morning, and thank you for the question.
spk11: So for me, I know you guys are focused more so on the you know, premium flower as well as pre-rolls. But I want to talk about vape for a second because, you know, looking at your market share, you know, certainly under-indexing there by a pretty material amount. So is that kind of part of your strategy of shifting away from the low margin? You mentioned shifting away from low margin flower too. Is that also why you're seeing these kind of share losses and shifting away from the vape side? And anything you're looking to do there to maybe, you know, more further entrench yourself in vape, especially on the back of
spk16: recent um you know agreement to uh optionality to acquire jetty you know in california so we'd love your option how you're looking at vape within the canadian market thank you yeah so you you outlined it really well actually you know we we uh when we look at kind of unit economics we're struggling to make money uh at the value end of vape uh and so uh we've we've pulled back from that a bit uh we have some real exciting plans around Jetty in the market at the premium end using their technology, which if you see the data in California, Jetty is doing very well even in that super competitive market. So for us, the future for vape will be at the premium end and will be led by Jetty. Again, it will take time for us to to bring that into the market and ultimately get it into consumers' hands in Canada, but we're really excited about that.
spk09: Yeah, and I would just add, Aaron, just from our strategy standpoint, again, when we kind of look at our market share performance and how we're tracking against our internal expectations or targets, we're really looking at the segments of the market where we think we can make good margins. When we speak to our market share focus, it's really the premium mainstream flower pre-roll joints, premium vape segment of the market, edibles, beverages, and et cetera. And the other point I would just make from a margin standpoint, as we are also looking at using some of the contract manufacturers for some of the production, we are also optimizing our footprint better by just reducing some of that indirect cost that would have resided in our cost structure if we didn't pivot to some of the more variable models that we're pursuing. So I think it benefits both the market share focus standpoint and then our margin standpoint.
spk07: Your next question comes from Glenn Mattson from Lattenburg. Please go ahead.
spk03: Thanks for taking the question. David, when you talked about your U.S. assets, one thing that you highlighted was acreage's positioning, and you highlighted especially their footprint in New York. And I'm curious, you know, that market's taken a lot longer to develop. Others have recently noted how kind of scrambled that market has become with the illicit market having kind of free reign and everything else. Can you just give us a sense of how you see that market developing, what makes you so excited about it, and, you know, just your background on New York in general? Thanks.
spk16: Yeah, so, yeah, Glenn, good question because, you know, we talked coming into the questioning about challenges in the business, and it really is lack of predictability and, you know, having to continue to adjust your business plans and business models. Look, as a New Yorker, I really can't wait for adult use permissibility or rec permissibility in New York. And it's taking a ton of time, and the direction is a bit unclear, right? So, yeah, it's really frustrating. What I would say, though, is that it's a very big market. It's a market that has been a strong cannabis market for decades. from an illicit standpoint, we think that really good opportunities exist in particular to bring our brands like Juana and Jetty into that market and doing so by partnering with Acreage and Terrasen. So, I think like everything else in cannabis, it's not unfolding exactly as we would like and it's taking longer than we would like, but we still think it's a really, it's a large market We already have assets through acreage in that market that we can benefit from, and we have great brands that we can bring into the market. So that's really the basis for the excitement. Again, we'd like the timeframe to move up a little bit, but I think we've already lost that battle. Anything you'd add, Judy?
spk09: No, I think that's good.
spk07: Your next question comes from Matt Bottomley from Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.
spk05: Yeah, good morning, everyone. So we had a lot of good granularity in your prepared remarks in the Q&A on some of the cost-saving initiatives and where that might come from. But maybe just taking a further step back and at a higher level, you know, still sitting at about $140 million of cash from operations burn in this quarter. Can you give any indication, even if it's a high-level range, you know, a quarter, a third, half of what you think the burn will be of your current cash reserves of the $1.2 billion? And then also just give us a A quick reminder on how much debt principal comes due in the next, say, 12 months. Thanks.
spk09: Yeah, I'll take that. So thanks for the question, Matt. So let's just start with the point that we do still have a strong balance sheet, $1.2 billion that still resides in our balance sheet. We also believe we have flexibility to tap into capital markets for additional liquidity if needed. you know, I think we are in a good position just from a financial flexibility standpoint. You're right that we are still generating free cash outflow. And I think number one, we really do want to make sure that we are reducing our cash burn as quickly as possible through OPEX disciplines, right? So the cost savings initiative, that driving the improvement from our EBITDA standpoint, we expect that will moderate the cash burn from an OPEX standpoint going forward. The second sort of use of cash is the interest expense payments. As I said earlier, we're going to get some savings from repayment of the converts, but we have the term loan that we currently pay interest on. And if you look at annualized interest expense that we expect to incur this year, it's roughly 130 million on an annualized basis. depending on where interest rates go. So we do have that from an obligation standpoint. CapEx is really becoming very modest. We do think that we've got a lot of the growth CapEx that's been invested over the last few years, and really it's down to maintenance CapEx and very minimal from a CapEx standpoint. We have reduced our CapEx outlook this year to... to 30 to 40 million, and we will continue to look to even right-size that further going forward. So, we feel pretty good about where we are from a CapEx standpoint. So, I think when you take all of that together, it's really reducing the cash burn as much as we can. And we've talked about our target of achieving positive adjusted EBITDA in fiscal 24, with the exception of the investments that we're making in BioSteel and USTHC. modest capex and then it's really the interest payments that we are incurring. We have the July 23 convertible notes that still remain on our balance sheet. We are looking at addressing that before July and we've got several options again and we'll share updates on that as we go forward. And from a terminal standpoint, we do still have ample time for for that terminal to be coming due. So, from a maturity standpoint, it's really the convertible notes that we would be looking to manage over the next 12 months.
spk16: Yeah, I want to reiterate kind of the, you know, our, our, our overall, like, thinking around priorities and maybe we sound a bit like broken records here, but. We placed a big bet on the US and it's taking longer to evolve than we would have liked. And we used a fair amount of our cash on those US assets, but we remain really excited about those assets because those assets are profitable and they're growing. They just don't show up in our financial statements yet. So we've got the bet on the US. We remain absolutely determined to get profitable and stop the cash burn in Canada. And that means we're going to focus on premium and mainstream. And then we have all of the activity we've been doing around right-sizing SG&A and footprint to support the premium and mainstream focus. And it's really premium and mainstream in the segments that we can win in. And so maybe our aspirations for total size in Canada have changed over the last several years, but we believe that we can get ourselves with the right focus in the right categories to a profitable business that's not burning cash in the Canadian market. And then we said, we're gonna continue to drive growth of our CPG brands where we have the very profitable and consumer love Storz and Bickel brand, which we think is just beginning to scratch the surface of where the brand could go. And then BioSteel, we're beginning to see some of the returns on the work and the investments that have gone behind that brand, and we're excited about where that can go. So I don't want anybody to think that we're not spending almost all of our waking hours on those three topics, which very much includes stopping the cash burn in Canada.
spk06: Your next question comes from John Zamparo from CIBC.
spk07: Please go ahead.
spk04: Thank you. Good morning. I also wanted to touch on the cash burn, and in particular, the F24 guide for positive EBITDA. And specifically, even at the high end of your cost savings range, it would only get you about halfway there. Presumably, your investments in BioSteel and USTHC aren't significant enough to be over $100 million a year. So is the delta to get to positive EBITDA by F24? Is it more a product of sales growth? Or you mentioned other costs you're looking to cut, but just would like to get our better understanding of the pathway to profitability for that year. Thank you.
spk09: Yeah, and I think I go back to what are the levers to that profitability. We've got three levers. One, it's profitable revenue growth. Profitable revenue growth is really about premiumization strategy that we are expecting to get the benefit of higher sales in premium categories that we participate in. So that's one lever to achieve profitability. The second lever is the gross margin improvement, particularly on the cost reduction side that we've outlined and really looking to reduce our indirect costs, a number of productivity initiatives that's already in flight, and additional opportunities that we will be looking into to further optimize our footprint and expect more savings on the cost of goods side. And then the third driver is really the SG&A expenses, which you're really good about, that we're on track to deliver against that 70 to 100 million target. Now, to your point, we're in an inflationary period. The market's still volatile. There's some supply chain challenges. So I think it's really incumbent upon us to be very agile in identifying even additional opportunities. and really giving and challenging everyone on our team to make sure that we are being as efficient and identifying those opportunities. So as David said, we are committed to achieving profitability in Canada as soon as we can. And I think that that is really about those three levers, but I think we've got additional opportunities that we'll continue to challenge ourselves to make sure that we're doing that as quickly as possible. and even with some of the cost headwinds that we're facing from a broader macro standpoint.
spk07: Your next question comes from Michael Lavery from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
spk02: Thank you. Good morning. Good morning. I wanted to touch on BioSteel. You've got the expansion into Walmart. That's 2,200 stores. It's close to half of their U.S. total. Can you give us a sense of what they have in common? Is it geographic? You know, is it like the east or the west, or is it just the stores that opted in versus didn't? And what might it take to get to full distribution there?
spk16: Yeah, Michael, I actually, I'm not sure how the store selection, the store is selected in. So we can come back to you on that. What I would maybe switch it to is that, you know, we've seen really good retailer uptake of the brand throughout the U.S. and we saw a lot of excitement and inbound calls coming from retailers post the NHL announcement. And, you know, that activation doesn't obviously start to happen until we really get into the NHL season. But I think we're just seeing growth in distribution all over the place. And, you know, we feel good about it. I think it's important for us to make sure that we can execute in the stores themselves, as I said earlier, around the velocity question. Because that's ultimately the key. Getting listed is just the first step. Actually, having Velocity to stay on the shelf is the work that's underway now. But we'll have to come back to you on this election within Walmart because I'm not sure how that was done.
spk14: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today.
spk07: I will turn the call over to Mr. Klein for closing remarks. Please go ahead.
spk16: Thanks again for joining us today. As a reminder, our investor relations team will be available to answer additional questions throughout the day. If you're in Canada, I encourage you to try one of our new premium flour and pre-rolled joint innovations or a great-tasting Tweed Iced Tea Guava or Deep Space Ginger Ale Galaxy. If you're in the U.S., I encourage you to hydrate with a BioSteel RTD beverage or relax with some Martha Stewart CBD. Enjoy the rest of your summer, and once again, thanks for being with us today.
spk07: This concludes Canopy Growth's first quarter fiscal 2023 financial results conference call. A replay of this conference call will be available until November 5th, 2022, and can be accessed following the instructions provided on the company's press release earlier today. Thank you for attending today's call, and enjoy the rest of your day. Goodbye.
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