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Cognyte Software Ltd.
9/9/2025
Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Cognite Second Quarter Fiscal Year 2026 Earnings Conference Call. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during this session, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. Please note that today's conference may be recorded. I will now hand the conference over to your speaker host, Dean Ridlon, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Operator. Hello, everyone. I'm Dean Ridland, Cognite's Head of Investor Relations. Thank you for joining us today. I'm here with Elad Sharong, Cognite's CEO, and David Abadi, Cognite's CFO. Before getting started, I would like to mention that accompanying our call today is a presentation. If you'd like to view these slides in real time during the call, please visit the investor section of our website at cognite.com. Click on Upcoming Events, then the webcast link for today's conference call. I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that certain matters discussed on this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and other provisions of the federal securities laws. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and are not guarantees of future performance. Actual results could differ materially from those expressed in or implied by these forward-looking statements. The forward-looking statements are made as of the date of this call and, except as required by law, Cognite assumes no obligation to update or revise them. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. For a more detailed discussion of how these and other risks and uncertainties could cause Cognite's actual results to differ materially from those indicated in these forward-looking statements, please see our annual report on Form 20F for the fiscal year ended January 31, 2025, and other filings we make with the SEC. The financial measures discussed today include non-GAAP measures. We believe investors focus on non-GAAP financial measures in comparing results between periods and among our peer companies that publish similar non-GAAP measures. Please see today's presentation slides, our earnings release, and the investor section of our website at cognite.com for a reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP measures. Non-GAAP financial information should not be considered in isolation from, as a substitute for, or superior to GAAP financial information, but is included because management believes it provides meaningful information about the financial performance of our business and is useful to investors for informational and comparative purposes. The non-GAAP financial measures that the company uses have limitations and may differ from those used by other companies. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Allad.
Thank you, Dean. Welcome everyone to our conference call for the second quarter of the fiscal year ending January 31st, 2026. Before I get started, On behalf of the board and management team, I want to thank our shareholders for their trust and support at last week's annual general meeting. Turning now to our Q2 results. Our Q2 performance reflects solid execution against our strategy and constant demand for our solutions. In the second quarter, we grew revenue by approximately 16% year-over-year to about $98 million. Non-GAAP gross profit increased by about 17% year-over-year. We generated approximately $11 million of adjusted EBITDA for the quarter, growth of about 33% compared to what we generated in Q2 last year. And cash flow from operating activities was a negative $6 million, primarily due to expected seasonal expenses. These results reflect how technology is not only mission critical, but increasingly indispensable as global threats grow more complex. We probably serve four agency types. law enforcement, military intelligence, national intelligence, and national security agencies, each facing rising data volumes, more sophisticated adversaries, and a constantly evolving technology landscape. Our solutions help them stay ahead of these challenges, enabling them to protect people, secure borders, disrupt criminal and terror networks, defend against cyber threats, and ensure public safety every single day. This quarter, the commitment was reflected in two significant wins for military intelligence customers. In Asia Pacific, we signed a $10 million full-on deal with a longstanding customer. They operate in a complex border environment and use our border intelligence solutions to stop infiltration attempts by hostile actors, clear proof of the ongoing trust they place in us, and the tangible operational results we deliver. In EMEA, we won a competitive deal worth about $10 million with a new tier one military intelligence organization, beating several global vendors, including the regional incumbent. They chose Cognite for proven tactical intelligence capabilities to modernize operations and address emerging threats. The anticipated impact of our solutions has already led to the customer to place a follow-on order, demonstrating confidence in our technology and the potential for a broader and long-term partnership. Taken together, these rings reflect a broader reality we see every day. Around the world, governments and agencies are confronting rising levels of complexity and uncertainty. The global environment is marked by heightened security challenges from digital to physical domains, creating an urgent and sustained demand for advanced intelligent solutions. This growing demand not only underscores our commercial momentum, but also the effectiveness of our differentiated technology. As we shared at Invest Today, our technology stack is built on three layers, signal processing, insight mining, and investigative analytics. Within this framework, this quarter, I want to highlight our operational intelligence suite of solutions, also known as tactical intelligence, which is where our technology meets the field. TITIC is a foundational layer of signal processing. It transforms chaotic signal feeds into clean, usable data and so helps field units operate in real time. Whether in complexity environments or remote terrain, our best-in-class suite of tactical intelligence solutions enable missions from early threat detection to planning and operational response. And when you combine that offering with our top players, insert mining and investigative analytics, Culminating in our decision intelligence solution, Nexcite, you get the full power of the Cognite technology platform. What sets us apart is how these layers and solutions work together as one integrated platform creating a complete and differentiated intelligence capability powered by advanced AI. That's why intelligence and security agencies continue to choose Cognite to detect threats faster, act with precision, protect communities, and respond decisively to the full spectrum of criminal, terror, and national security challenges. We regularly hear from both current and prospective customers about the real impact our solutions are having. Just last month, during a week-long proof of concept in the field in a large US city, a prospective customer used one of our solutions to work more efficiently. The customer noted that the solution performed better than what they had relied on for years from incumbent providers. That pilot led directly to the arrest of several fugitives, individuals wanted for murder and armed robbery, clear proof of how quickly our solutions make an impact. Beyond customer feedback, our innovation is recognized across the industry. In Gartner's 2025 hype cycle for public safety and law enforcement, Cognite was named a sample vendor for our AI-powered predictive analytics. Gartner called the benefit of predictive analytics transformational as broader data sharing and richer data sets unlock new insights. Across all regions, agencies are being asked to do more with fewer resources while facing adversaries who are more agile and technology-sophisticated. This dynamic is driving increased investment in modern AI-enabled intelligence platforms reinforcing the strategic importance of our offering. The U.S. remains the cornerstone of our growth strategy, and further penetration into this market is a key priority. We continue to strengthen our reach through expanded presence and strategic partnerships. To that end, we entered into an alliance with LexisNexis Risk Solutions, a T1 partner with deep specialization in the federal market. This partnership expands our footprint and sells power in the region, providing access to a highly connected team with strong relationships across U.S. agencies. This is particularly strategic for our tactical intelligence portfolio, where federal customers represent an important growth opportunity. At the same time, we continue to operate against the backdrop of atypical U.S. agency procurement delays that limit NITM visibility into budget timing. While this environment presents what we believe are temporary challenges, we are confident that as state and local and federal spend normalizes, Cognite will be well positioned to accelerate customer acquisition and reinforce our competitive position in this region. Direct engagement with customers and prospects is also central to advancing our strategy. Recently, we participated in ATIA, a leading U.S. event for federal and state and local law enforcement, where we had an opportunity to showcase our capabilities and connect with key decision makers. Looking ahead, we are actively preparing for key upcoming conferences, including Millipool Paris, the leading global event for homeland security and safety, Asian Defense and Security in Bangkok, a premier exhibition for defense, security, and disaster response in the Asia-Pacific region, and IACP in Denver, Colorado, the premier gathering for US police chiefs and public safety leaders, as well as other important forums. These events give us the opportunity to showcase our latest capabilities, strengthen relationships, and create new opportunities. In today's environment, where threats are becoming more diverse and harder to predict, our technology provides agencies with the speed, accuracy, and insights they require to stay ahead. Looking ahead, we are encouraged by how current and prospective customers continue to respond to our technology. Our ongoing execution, combined with a clear focus on innovation, position as well to drive long-term growth and continue to meaningfully expand profitability. We have a clear path to our financial targets for the fiscal year ending January 31st, 2028. $500 million in revenue, gross margins of about 73%, and adjusted EBITDA margins above 20%. These goals are grounded in our strategy, deepening relationships with our existing customers, winning new customers, and expanding our footprint in the U.S. market. We remain confident in achieving these targets because the market need is growing, our technology leadership is proven, and our execution is delivering results quarter after quarter. For our current fiscal year, ending January 31, 2026, we are updating our guidance and now expect revenue of approximately $397 million, plus or minus 2%, representing about 13% EOV growth at the midpoint of the range, and adjusted EBITDA of approximately $45 million at the midpoint of the revenue range, representing approximately 55% EOV growth. Before I hand it over to David, I want to share why we do what we do. A core challenge our customers face is the imbalance between bad actors and those working to stop them. Bad actors, whether criminals or terrorists, move fast, adapt quickly, and exploit a single weakness with devastating impact. By contrast, law enforcement and security organizations must track and respond to a wide range of evolving threats in real time and with absolute precision. That means the bad guys only need to succeed once, while agencies need to succeed every single time. This asymmetry put immense pressure on investigative teams to work faster, smarter, and more accurately than ever. Every day, our customers stand on the front lines, protecting citizens, safeguarding borders, and preventing harm. Our purpose is clear, to give them the technology to generate the insights and the confidence they need to stay ahead of those who would do harm. This is the mission that drives every innovation, every partnership, and every decision we make at Cognite. Now, let me turn the call over to David to provide more details about our Q2 results.
David? Thank you, Elad, and hello, everyone. As you just heard, we are making strong progress across the business. In Q2, that translated into solid financial performance supported by healthy demand and good visibility. This performance reflects the consistency of our execution and reinforces our continued confidence in the outlook. Revenue for Q2 was $97.5 million, an increase of 15.5% year over year. Software revenue was $36.6 million, an increase of $9.7 million, or 35.9% year-over-year. Software revenue is comprised of perpetual licenses, appliances along with some term-based subscription licenses. Software services revenue was $46.7 million, up $1.4 million from last year. Software services revenue comes mainly from support contracts and, to a lesser extent, cloud-based SaaS subscriptions. Our total software revenue for the quarter was approximately $83.3 million, representing 85.5% of total revenue. We continue to expect software revenue to be about 87% of total revenue on an annual basis. Professional services revenue in Q2 was $14.2 million, an increase of $2 million over last year. Professional services revenue is expected to fluctuate between quarters due to revenue recognition timing. We continue to expect professional services revenue to be about 13% of total revenue on an annual basis. Recurring revenue for Q2 was $47.4 million, representing 48.7% of total revenue. Recurring revenue, driven primarily by support contracts and some termless and SaaS subscription offerings, enhances our visibility in both the near and the long term. Non-GAAP growth margin for the quarter was 72.1%, expanding by 81 basis points year-over-year. Growth margin reflected between quarters less than our revenue mix. Growth profit in the second quarter grew faster than revenue growth and was $70.3 million, an increase of 16.8% year-over-year. We believe the steady improvement we have made in gross profit is the result of the significant value customers derive from our innovative solutions, our competitive differentiation, and our improved cost structure. The combination of revenue growth and our business model continues to deliver meaningful year-over-year improvements in profitability, showing our ability to drive operational leverage. Once again, non-GAAP operating income and adjusted EBITDA both grew significantly faster than revenue. In Q2, we generated $8 million of non-GAAP operating income, nearly twice as much as the $4.4 million generated in Q2 last year. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $11 million, about 33% higher than the $8.3 million generated last Q2, resulting in second quarter fiscal 26 non-GAAP EPS of $0.08. Q2 GAAP net income for the quarter was $2.7 million versus a loss of $0.9 million in Q2 last year, resulting in second quarter GAAP EPS of $0.02. Looking at our H1 results, our revenue was $193.1 million and grew by 15.5% year-over-year. Our non-GAAP gross profit grew faster by 16.8% year-over-year. The leverage we have in our model helped us generate meaningful improvement in profitability year-over-year. Our H1 GAAP operating income was $4.9 million versus an operating loss of $3.7 million during the same period last year. Non-GAAP operating income was $15.6 million, more than double versus $6.3 million during the first half of last fiscal year. Our H1 adjusted EBITDA was $21.3 million versus $13.3 million in H1 of the previous year. NAND and GAAP EPS was $0.15 in H1 this year compared to $0.02 in the same period last year. Turning to our balance sheet. Our short and long-term contract liabilities, commonly referred to as deferred revenue, remained robust at about $114.3 million at the end of Q2, up slightly versus the July 31, 2024 balance. During Q2, we had negative cash flow from operations of $6.3 million and had negative free cash flow of $8.9 million. Historically, we have had negative cash flow from operations in Q2 due to the timing of certain expenses, including bonus payments. For the full year, we continue to expect cash flow from operating activities to be about $45 million. During Q2, we completed the repurchase program previously authorized by the Board of Directors. The company repurchased about 2.1 million ordinary shares for a total of $20 million. In July, the Board has also approved a new share repurchase program of up to $20 million in ordinary shares over the next 18 months through January 14, 2027, as part of our capital allocation strategy. Following the required 30-day notice period under Israeli law, share repurchases could commence on Friday, August 13. Our cash position remains strong at $84.7 million with no debt. Let me walk you through our execution against some of our key performance indicators. RPO, or Remaining Performance Obligations, represents contracted revenue to be recognized in future periods, influenced by factors such as sales cycles, deployment timelines, contract plans, renewal timing, and seasonality. While fluctuations are expected in total RPO, current levels support our growth expectations. At the end of Q2, total IPO was $574.5 million versus $567.7 million at the same period last year. Total IPO is the sum of deferred revenue of $114.3 million and backlog of $460.2 million. Short-time RPO at the end of Q2 increased to $355 million, which we believe provides solid visibility into revenue over the next 12 months. These healthy RPO levels validate the strengths and resilience of our business model and support our expectations for $500 million in annual revenue for the year ending January 2028. Q2 billings were $93 million, an increase of about 20% versus the same period last year. Q2 non-GAAP operating expenses were $62.3 million, aligned with our expectations. We remain focused on driving continued financial improvement and sustained margin expansion. We're updating our guidance for the current fiscal year ending January 31, 2026. We're expecting full-year revenue of about $397 million, plus or minus 2%. This represents approximately 13% year-over-year growth at the midpoint of the revenue range. We expect total software revenue to be about $345 million representing approximately 87% of total revenue, and professional service revenue to represent about 13% of total revenue, aligned with our strategic goals. We believe that our strong short-term RPO of $355 million and a favorable demand environment support this outlook. we expect Q3 revenue to be slightly higher than the Q2 levels we are reporting today, and Q4 to also grow sequentially. We now expect annual land gap gross margin to be 72%, reflecting an improvement of 100 basis points over last fiscal year. Gross margin may fluctuate between quarters based on our revenue mix. We expect annual growth profit to increase at a faster rate than revenue growth. We expect adjusted EBITDA to be about $45 million for the year ending January 2026, representing approximately 55% year-over-year growth. We have made progress with our strategic tax planning and now expect non-GAAP tax expenses to be about $11 million, an improvement from our initial estimate of $13 million. With this updated improved outlook, we now project annual non-GAAP EPS to be 23 cents at the midpoint of the revenue range. Turning to cash flow. remain confident in our ability to generate $45 million of operating cash flow in FY26, reflecting both strong collections discipline and expanding profitability. Before I summarize, we are pleased to report that the class action lawsuit was fully dismissed with no additional appeals possible. To summarize, We continue to execute against our strategic priorities with a strong focus on delivering results. We have good visibility into our business, supported by healthy demand, which gives us confidence in our momentum and our outlook. The fundamentals we have built, recurring revenue, operating leverage, and targeted investment in strategic growth areas are durable, and support our confidence in the long-term value we are creating. This is also reflected in our strong balance sheet and is especially evident in our capital allocation approach. With strong fundamentals, we believe we are well positioned to sustain our momentum and continue delivering profitable growth this year and beyond. With that, I would like to end the call over to the operator to open the lines for questions. Operator?
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question at this time, you will need to press star 1-1 on your touch-tone telephone and wait for your name to be announced. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question coming from the line of from Needham & Company. Your line is now open.
Hey guys, this is Matt Coetzee over at Needham. Thank you for taking our questions and nice to see the revenue outlook raise again. Can you help us think through your updated assumptions there around the U.S. federal environment, the group sense contribution, and any contributions from the large deal signed during the quarter?
Yeah, hi Matt. So when you look at the guidance, we look at our existing customers as well as new opportunities. The U.S. represents a significant opportunity for us given that it's large territory with many security agencies. And we continue to make investments in order to expand presence, increase market reach, to increase the expanding network, the partner network, and invest more in marketing. Having said that, in the shorter term, U.S. presents a small portion of our business, so we're not relying on our guidance heavily on the U.S., but we do believe that U.S. will become a more significant portion of our business over time. In terms of the federal agencies, we do have lots of traction with federal agencies. We run POCs and demos very successfully, actually. LexisNexis partnership is also a tailwind for us in order to access faster and more efficiently more federal agencies, and actually they started working with us already. Having said that, I do not expect, you know, the numbers to increase fast, given that first it takes some time to sell to the federal, but also we know that there are certain budget issues in the federal agencies. Some of them are still in continuing resolution. budget behavior, so it will take some time. So to summarize, the U.S. is a significant opportunity for us. We do not rely on it heavily in the shorter term. We do believe that it will accelerate over time, and we see very good indication across the board in the federal and central local in the U.S. In terms of GroupSense contribution to this one, GroupSense is a relatively smaller position. We want to increase the market access for cyber threat intelligence. We are actually on track with the integration of a group sensing to Cognite. We are approaching their customers, and we are trying actually to push the Luminar technology into the customer base. It looks good. We are on track, and we will continue this effort as part of the many other initiatives that we are running in order to expand presence in the U.S.
That's great. Thanks so much there. With the U.S. specifically, how are conversations compared to expectations? I know you said budgets remain challenged and that's consistent with what we're hearing, but are budgets starting to open up at all or is it a lot of the same still?
So first of all, all our judgments related to budget headwinds coming from the U.S. is backed in our guidance. So we shouldn't be surprised, right? We do see the behavior all over. It's not just Cognite, but we hear it from others. So we know that there are certain headwinds that we have to take into account in the U.S. Having said that, if you look at the few last quarters, we were able to acquire new state and local customers. We were able to have very strong POCs and demos. We pushed out incumbents. We already got follow-on orders from some of them. We engaged with federal agencies. We ran POCs. Earlier in the call, I gave an example of a very successful POC where the customer was able, prospect customer actually, was able to generate value very fast from our technology that he couldn't do within the current technology they have. So generally speaking, the strategy, we believe that our strategy to expand services in the U.S. is the right one. Of course, we take into consideration that penetration more takes time, and the headwinds in the budget now that we see in the federal agencies is also a temporary disruption, but it doesn't change our strategy that the U.S. should be a good opportunity for us over time, and that's the reason we continue to invest.
Understood, and great to hear. And then you noted you're still expecting an 87%, 13% split between software and professional services for the year. Is there any seasonality at play with that, or what gives you confidence that the software revenue mix will increase in the second half this year?
So, there is no real seasonality that can take place on the professional services. But if you look at the 1st, the reason that we're doing professional services, professional services, we're doing in cases that we believe that this can allow the customer to generate the value faster from our solution and actually allow us to go with the customer faster. uh you can see that professional services recognize best on a certain revenue condition criteria so there is fluctuation between quarters in the professional services the reason that we believe that we'll continue to have the level of mix of 30 percent of professional services and 87 percent of software is actually is the visibility that we have we do have visibility into our next 12 months and specifically in the next two quarters, which gives us the confidence that we will be able to achieve it. And if you think about that, you can see that our software revenue is growing fast and you can see that our growth margin is improving. So this is something that we are also very pleased. We now raise the guidance of the growth margin to be 72% and it gives us also the confidence that we will be able to achieve the 73% in the long term. So from an overall perspective, we are in a very good shape on achieving our financial targets.
Very helpful. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question coming from the line of TAS School Chelsea with Rock Capital. Your line is now open.
Hey, guys. Can you hear me?
Yes, we can. Yes, we can hear you.
Hey guys, thanks. Quick question. On the quote, if you guys just clarify how much of the growth came from existing customers buying more products versus data growth? I know your growth is driven by data growth and new products being adopted by your customers. Can you give us some color on how much of the growth this quarter was driven by data versus new products?
So when we look at our growth strategy, actually there are three pillars, three main pillars. The first one is the current customer base, existing customer base. And we have a very significant asset, we believe. We have hundreds of customers around the world in nearly 100 countries that continue to buy from us other expansions related to data capacity and diversity or functionality upgrades or more use cases. The second one is related to acquiring new logos. Actually, we acquired about 13 new logos in H1 this year. And the third one is midterm, is actually the acceleration of our performance in the U.S. So if you look in general, the main growth is usually coming from the existing customer base. And the reason is that when we acquire a new customer, uh usually they start small and when they go over time they already considered existing customers so for that reason usually you'll see the growth coming from existing customer base and whether it's data or functionality it's usually both the reason is that we continue to innovate and and actually release more capabilities and generate more value and uncover more hidden insights out of the same data sets customers have So the customer, in order for them to be successful in the mission, they have first to cover all data sources that they have and analyze it in a very efficient manner, but they also have to be able to get strong analytics in order to have the insights and get the decisions, the right decisions on time. So to summarize, mostly existing customer is the driver for the growth, but the reason is that the new customers start small and go over time, and by then they are considered already existing customers.
Yeah, of course. And then, Elijah, you mentioned that you had some displacement of incumbents in Europe, and I think even in the U.S., you said you displaced some of the existing vendors. Can you talk about what is driving that displacement? What is your secret sauce, or what is the functionality that you bring to the table that is allowing you to displace the incumbents? You mentioned, I think, EMEA as well as in the U.S.
Yes, so actually, when we look at the market, we understand that the demand drivers are related to three dimensions. The first one is data. We just discussed it. The second one is adversaries are getting more sophisticated. They use advanced tools to evade detection. They also use new technology. And the third one is technology that is running really fast. Technology running really fast means that actually it can be an advantage for our customers, for security agencies, if they implement it and use it sooner than the bad guys. But it also can be a challenge for them if they don't use it because the others are using it. For example, in order to use fake identities and to create or to encrypt their doing so. In order for security agencies to be more successful, they must stay ahead of the bad guys. And for that reason, we invest in R&D. And actually, investment in R&D is relatively significant in order to be able to keep our customers ahead of the adversaries. And we add more AI capabilities, analytics, engine AI. We improve the workflows of the users. We give them some automation inside the solution in order to be more effective. We maintain the solution to be able to be utilized by simple users and advanced users. And actually the most important one is to be able to deal with data that is going really fast and the functionality which is primarily analytics that can generate more insights out of the same data set. So actually, usually when we push incumbents out, It's because we show either by POCs or demos. I gave an example earlier in the call. We actually encourage prospective customers to go for a POC, not just, you know, to get the proposal and see the compliance because, you know, everybody is compliant to everything. But we encourage customers to test the technology. Actually, we educate them. They try it, and after they try it and they see the results compared to incumbents, they choose to move to us. It happened to us in many territories, and I give two examples today. Actually, it happened in the U.S., and it also happened in APAC, in EMEA, sorry, in EMEA this time. And actually, this is not new to us. It happens again and again, and the main reason is actually maintaining the superiority of the technology in a way that makes our customers' mission more successful.
And a majority of the growth comes from existing new logos. There's still a small portion of the growth driver. But when you think about new logos acquisition, how much of that is the spacing and existing render versus completely greenfield? Is there a lot of greenfield out there or most of the new logos that you acquire is coming from the spacing and incumbent?
It's a mix. So actually, some new logos are coming from new territories, like in the U.S. We were not operating in the U.S. a few years back, so every new logo that we get from the U.S. is a new territory. Actually, we haven't been there before. In other cases, it could be other new departments at the same organization in a customer that we already have. or it could be new agencies in the same country operating in already. For example, we serve today the national security only, and then we are able to acquire also the law enforcement and the military intelligence. So it's a mix, I would say. It's not either this or that. It's both.
Got it. I just have a few more. Maybe for David. David, the billing number was very strong this quarter. I think if I look at the seasonal numbers, the jump from Q1, it seems stronger than usual seasonality. Anything to call out in the billing trend this quarter? I couldn't hear the beginning of the question. Can you repeat? Yeah, the billings number this quarter was very strong. I think if you look at the typical seasonality, you don't see a big jump from Q1 to Q2, but I think this quarter we saw a big jump in billings. I believe last quarter was 78, and I think you're doing 93 million this quarter in billings, so That seems like a big jump. Anything to call out? Anything specific that drove that strength in Billings this quarter?
Actually, Billings is impacted from multiple things. It could be a certain milestone of the Billings per the contract. It could be based on new orders that come with the advances. So it could be a lot of things that impact. If you look at the overall trend, you can see that in the level of the 12 months, we see that the billing is strong, is in similar level of revenue, which means that we have a quality revenue. There is nothing specific for this quarter to call in. We are very pleased with the number that we have this quarter because it was a strong one. And obviously, we want that this number will continue.
Very helpful. And then the recurring revenue mix of 48, I think that's been pretty consistent. Do you expect that to trend up quite a bit, or we should see that level of 48 sort of sustain in the next few quarters?
So recurring revenue consists from two major pillars. One of them is the support. This is the vast majority. And the other element is subscription. Subscription is split into two things. One of them is the SaaS. which is very small number and the other one is the 10 base. So the 10 base can play a role here with the fluctuation. If we look at the fundamentals, the recurring itself, what is recurring, if I would say support and the SAS, you see that they are growing over time and looking ahead, We believe that, for example, in the beginning of next year, you will see some improvement in the recurring revenue because we closed some deals in subscription that will be active next year. So overall, I would say that in the long term, you will see some improvement in the recurring revenue, but we are very pleased with the recurring because if you look at that, today we have 48% or 49% of our total revenue is recurring, while the vast majority of ours is perpetual. So the offering by itself is perpetual and we're able to drive recurring revenue, although we see customers that are still buying on perpetual. And given the fact that we want over time to increase our subscription offering, we believe that the overall trend that you will see that recurring is growing.
Yeah. One last one for me, guys. You mentioned that the US is still early. You're not assuming a lot of contribution from the US for your guide for this year, but we also have a long-term guide of $500 million. Are you assuming that the US becomes a sizable portion of your revenue mix to get to that $500 million or the US doesn't have to inflect that much for you to reach your $500 million target?
Yes, so when we guide, of course, we have a few pillars that we work on in order to be able to balance between risks and opportunities, etc. Having said that, we did take into consideration, and we have the baseline to do that, that the U.S. will go over time because of a few data points. The first one is that we today know, it's not a question mark, but we know that the product market fit to the U.S. market is excellent. We know that. We know that because customers that either bought from us already or have seen demonstrations, they tell us that. This is one. Second, we're able to get follow-on orders already. Third, we do see that partners would want to work with us more than before because they also recognize the strength of the technology. And we did see that we are able to acquire new customers over time, not yet in the federal, But you have to remember that with federal, we started after we started with certain local. So taking all of those data points together, we do see the potential in the U.S., and I do expect the portion of the revenue coming from the U.S. to grow over time.
Got it. That's it for me, guys. Thank you. Thanks. Thank you, Todd.
And as a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 1-1. Our next question, coming from the line of Charlie Zhou with Evercore ISI, Ylanis Melvin.
Thank you so much for taking my question. This is Charlie for Peter, Evercore ISI. I just have two quick ones. First, could you please help us to think about how the overall deal pipeline is trending versus six to 12 months ago? And if you have observed any incremental pressure from macro? And secondly, just in terms of the overall threat landscape, have you seen any new trends in the public sector? Any color would be super helpful. Thanks so much.
Yeah. So, Charlie, I understand that you're asking about the demand environment, right? That's what you're trying to understand. Yes. Is that correct? Yeah. So if you look globally at the market, we all see that the world is not getting safer. The security pressure is growing all over. The borders are blurred between criminal activities and terror activities. They're actually cooperating. The technology is a benefit for the bad actors to evade detection. So the challenge of our customers is growing. For that reason, we do see healthy demand environment. Customers need to modernize the solution. They have to deal with more data. They have to have more analytics in order to uncover insights, including hidden insights out of the data that they have. They have to understand who is doing what, when, with whom, why, and also to have predictive analytics to actually to be able to predict what would be the next potential threat in order to neutralize it before it unfolds. So actually, the challenge on our customers and security agencies is growing dramatically. And for that reason, we believe and we also see that the demand is very healthy. We do see this in amount of POCs and demos we are doing. We do see this in the traction with existing customers that want to modernize and to upgrade and expand. We do see this in the industry conferences. that we are participating in, actually many meetings, many demonstrations. Customers and also perspectives are keen to hear from us what's new, what we are going to have soon. So the demand drivers are very strong, and the environment overall is very healthy.
Great. Thank you.
You're welcome, Charlie.
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