Civista Bancshares, Inc.

Before we begin, I would like to remind you that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements with respect to the future performance and financial condition of Sevista Bankshare's Inc. that involve risk and uncertainties. Various factors could cause actual results to be materially different from any future results expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. These factors are discussed in the company's SEC filings, which are available on the company's website. The company disclaims any obligation to update any forward-looking statements made during the call. Additionally, management may refer to the non-GAAP measures, which are intended to supplement but not substitute the most directly comparable GAAP measures. The press release also available on the company's website contains the financial and other quantitative information to be discussed today as well as the reconciliation of the GAAP to non-GAAP measures. This call will be recorded and made available on Sevista Bankshare's website at .civb.com. At the conclusion of Mr. Schaeffer's remarks, he and the Sevista management team will take any questions you may have. Now I will turn the call over to Mr. Schaeffer.

Thank you. Good afternoon. This is Dennis Schaeffer, President and CEO of Sevista Bankshare's and I would like to thank you for joining us for our first quarter 2025 earnings call. I am joined today by Rich Dutton, SVP of the company and Chief Operating Officer of the bank, Ian Winnum, SVP of the company and Chief Financial Officer of the bank and other members of our executive team. Chuck Parcher, EVP of the company and Chief Lending Officer of the bank is on vacation. This morning we reported net income for the first quarter of $10.2 million or 66 cents per diluted share which represents a $3.8 million or 60% increase over our first quarter of 2024 and a $275,000 increase over our linked quarter. This also represents an increase in pre-provision net revenue of $4.3 million or 47% over our first quarter in 2024 and a $1.4 million or .9% increase over our linked quarter. Core deposit funding continues to be a priority and we were pleased that our deposit funding, excluding brokered deposits, grew organically by over $67 million during the quarter which allowed us to continue reducing our reliance on brokered funding. We believe this shift toward more relationship funding contributes to the overall value of our core deposit franchise. I continue to be encouraged by our ability to remain disciplined in pricing both our deposits and loans through this interest rate cycle. Net interest income for the quarter was $32.8 million which represents an increase of $1.4 million or .5% compared to our linked quarter. The increase was attributable to our earning asset yield increasing 6 basis points to .71% and our overall funding costs decreasing by 11 basis points to 2.31%. Our decline in funding costs was largely attributable to a $150 million in brokered CDs that matured in late December that I mentioned on our last call. They carried a rate of .08% and we were able to replace and reduce them by laddering $125 million in brokered CDs over the subsequent 12 months at a blended rate of .37% representing a savings of 71 basis points. Similarly, we had $150 million in brokered CDs that matured in March that carried a rate of 5.18%. We were also able to replace and reduce these deposits with $125 million of CDs laddered over the next 12 months at a blended rate of .26% representing a savings of 92 basis points. While this had little impact on our first quarter results, we anticipate that it will further reduce our overall funding costs and lead to further margin expansion. We have solid loan demand in each of our markets. However, we continue to be disciplined in our approach to loan and lease pricing which has had the intended impact of muting growth. Our loan and lease portfolio grew at an annualized rate of .8% during the first quarter. We anticipate continuing to hold loan and lease rates higher as we work to maintain our loan to deposit ratio ideally within a range of 90 to 95%. The result of our continued discipline in managing both our loan and lease pricing as well as our funding costs was the continued expansion of our margin which grew by 15 basis points during the quarter to 3.51%. Our ROA for the quarter was 1% continuing our spring of improving our ROA in each of our past four quarters. Our ROE for the quarter was 10.39%. Earlier this month, we announced the renewal of our stock repurchase program. The program authorizes management to repurchase up to $13.5 million in outstanding shares and expires on April 15, 2026. While we have not been active in repurchasing shares and remain committed to increasing Our tangible common equity, we feel it is important to have the ability to repurchase shares should it become proven to do so. Last week, we also announced a quarterly dividend of 17 cents per share. Based on the quarter end market close of $19.54, this represents an annualized yield of 3.48%. During the quarter, our non-interest expense was $27.1 million, which represents a $1.2 million or .1% decline from our linked quarter and is the result of improvement in nearly every non-interest expense category. We continue to focus on controlling those expenses that are within our control. The largest decline was in compensation related expenses and was primarily due to five fewer FTEs, a reduction in benefit costs, and an increase in the amount of compensation deferred related to loan originations. Compared to the prior year's first quarter, non-interest expense declined $315,000 or .1% and while the improvement did not include as many categories, the results had a similar impact. The largest decline in comparison to the first quarter of the prior year was also attributable to 19 fewer FTEs, a reduction in benefit costs, and an increase in the amount of compensation deferred related to loan originations. This reduction in expense was partially offset by an increase in professional services related to projects and the conversion of our lease accounting and servicing system. Non-interest income declined $1.2 million or .8% in comparison to the linked quarter and 396,000 or .8% in comparison to the first quarter of the prior year. The primary drivers of the decrease from our linked quarter were a $655,000 decline in gains on the sale of loans, which are made up of mortgages in loans and leases originated by our leasing division due to typically less mortgage and leasing originations during the first quarter coupled with the impact of higher interest rates. A $314,000 decline in ATM and interchange revenue due to the shift from pre-holiday to post-holiday debit card use, a $124,000 decline in wealth management fees due to market declines during the quarter as assets under management decreased, and a $384,000 decline in bull eye revenue as we received $314,000 in proceeds from a debt benefit in the prior quarter. These declines were offset by an increase of $616,000 in lease revenue and residual income generated by our leasing division. The primary drivers for the decline from the prior year's first quarter were attributable to a $396,000 decline in gains on the sale of loans due to the same seasonality and high interest rates previously mentioned and lower lease rate related fees which are included in other income. The combination of increased revenue and disciplined expense control resulted in an efficiency ratio of .9% for the quarter compared to .3% for the length quarter and .8% for the prior year's first quarter. Turning our focus to the balance sheet. For the quarter, total loans and leases grew by $22.8 million. This represents an annualized growth rate of 2.8%. While we experienced increases in commercial and ag, both owner-occupied and -owner-occupied commercial real estate and residential real estate, we saw small declines in all other loan categories. As we shared on previous calls, we continue to price commercial and ag loan opportunities aggressively and are being more conservative in how we price commercial real estate opportunities as we try to manage the overall mix in our loan portfolio. The loans we originate from our portfolio are virtually all adjustable rate loans and our leases all have maturities of five years or less. New and renewed commercial loans were originated at an average rate of .16% during the quarter which is similar to our origination rate during the length quarter. Loans secured by office buildings make up .25% of our total loan portfolio. As we have stated previously, these loans are not secured by high-rise metro office buildings, rather they are predominantly secured by single or two-story offices located outside of central business districts. Along with -to-date loan production, our pipelines are solid and are undrawn construction lines for $226 million at March 31st. We continue to see loan opportunities in each of our markets and we anticipate loan growth to be in the -single-digit range for the balance of 2025. However, loan demand may be impacted the longer the economic uncertainty persists. On the funding side, total deposits increased $27 million or an annualized growth rate of 3.2%. However, if we back out broker deposits, our deposits balance grew by $67.1 million or .5% for the quarter which we believe is the result of our focus on deepening customer relationships. We did see some migration from non-interest bearing accounts into higher rate deposit accounts during the quarter, but our cost of deposits excluding broker deposits declined like 12 basis points from the linked quarter. Our deposit base remains fairly granular with our average deposit account excluding CDs approximately $28,000. With respect to FDIC insured deposits, excluding Sevista's own deposit accounts, .1% or $419.8 million of our deposits were in excess of the FDIC limits at quarter end. Our cash and un-fund securities at March 31st were $523.7 million which more than covers these uninsured deposits. Other than $568 million of public funds which are primarily operating accounts with the municipalities across our footprint, we had no deposit concentration at March 31st. At quarter end, our loan to deposit ratio was 95.8%. Our commercial bankers, treasury management officers, private bankers, and retail staff continue to have success gathering additional deposits from our commercial, small business, and retail customers as evidenced by our organic deposit growth. We believe our low cost deposit franchise is one of Sevista's most valuable characteristics contributing significantly to our solid net interest margin and overall profitability. At March 31st, our security portfolio was $648.5 million which represents .6% of our balance sheet. The interest rate environment continues to put pressure on bond portfolios. At March 31st, all of our securities were classified as available for sale and had $60 million of unrealized losses associated with that. This represented a decrease in unrealized losses of $2.5 million since December 31st, 2024. We ended the quarter with our tier one leverage ratio at .66% which is deemed well capitalized for regulatory purposes. Our tangible common equity ratio was .59% at March 31st, an increase from .43% at December 31st, 2024. So this is earnings continue to create capital and our overall goal remains to grow our capital to a level adequate to support organic growth. We did increase our dividend in the prior quarter and although we have not purchased any shares during the past five quarters, we continue to believe our stock is a value. Our capital levels remain strong. We recognize our tangible common equity ratio still screens low. Our previous guidance remains that we would like to rebuild our TCE ratio back to between 70 and 7 between 7 and 7.5%. To that end, we will continue to focus on earnings and will balance the payment of dividends and any stock repurchases with building capital to support our growth. During the quarter, we made a $1.6 million provision. We had charge-offs of $976,000 of which $800,000 was related to one of the non-performing credits we discussed in the fourth quarter. That loan is expected to pay off today. The balance of the provision was attributable to loan growth and the impact historically low prepayments in our loan portfolio have had on our Cecil model. Our ratio of the allowance from credit losses to total loans is .30% at March 31, 2025, which is consistent with .29% at December 31, 2024. Other than the general concern over the impact of macroeconomic uncertainties, the economy across Ohio and southeastern Indiana is showing no signs of deterioration and our credit quality remains strong. In summary, we are very pleased with the continued expansion of our net interest margin and our ability to control non-interest expense during the quarter. We are pleased with our team's success in attracting more lower cost funding and anticipate low to mid single-digit loan growth for the balance of 2025 as we temper loan growth to match our ability to fund that growth at a reasonable cost. Overall, 2025 is off to a solid start and our focus continues to be on creating shareholder value. Thank you for your attention this afternoon and your investment. And now we will be happy to address any questions that you may have.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now conduct a question and answer session. If you have a question, please press star key followed by one on your touchstone phone. You will hear a one-tone prompt acknowledging your request. Your request will be pulled in the order they are received. If you would like to decline from the polling process, please press the pound key. Please ensure you lift the handset and if you are using a speakerphone before pressing any

keys. One moment for your questions, please. Our first question comes from the line

of Justin Crowley from Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

Hey, good afternoon, guys. Just wanted to start on some of the margin inputs. Obviously, a lot of success in moving core deposit costs lower in the quarter with some of that broker repricing. I guess outside of the broker you mentioned, repricing in the quarter down to the 4-2, 4-3 range, how much opportunity is there left in the back book to see funding move lower? Has that largely run through at this point? And then how does that counteract against how aggressive you need to be on incremental funding?

Yeah, I think there's still opportunity there, Justin. On the deposit book, we do anticipate maybe four to five basis points again this coming quarter of margin expansion. We pretty much have been able to, on the higher interest rate stuff that we just organically had other than the broker, we have been pretty much, that's almost been the Fed has cut rate. We've cut immediately too, almost on 100% bet on that stuff. We also have opportunity on the loan side. There's $110 million that will reprice over the next two quarters. So those rates, we should pick up a couple hundred basis points as those loans reprice. And then new loan yields are still going on, as I said in my call, in the 7, 15, 7, 16, 7, 25 range. So we think there's opportunity there. So we think there's opportunity to continue to expand the margin here in the near term over the next quarter or two.

Okay, so you mentioned that four to five basis points of perhaps NEM pick up in the second quarter. So you think that type of acceleration could sort of continue through the balance of the year, at least for the next couple of quarters? And then does it maybe stabilize, just to throw a number out there, that 360 level? How are you thinking about that?

It does start to stabilize as we get deeper into the year. I think third quarter, we have a little calculator that we try to run different scenarios on. I think we're anticipating maybe four to five basis points in the second quarter and two to three basis points in the third quarter right now. That's if rates stay fairly similar to where they're at today.

Okay, and so how sensitive would that be to, you know, potential cuts out of the Fed?

That model's in cut. We can model in cuts. I guess we modeled it. Ian, you want to speak to that? Yeah, Justin, this

is Ian Linham. So we factored in a cut in June, another one in September. And so the numbers that Dennis referenced include those. So it's in that range of about four to five basis points in the second quarter, and additional two to three basis points of expansion in the third quarter.

Okay, that's super helpful. I appreciate that. And then just moving over to expenses. I believe you had talked about some elevated spend last quarter, tied to some staff turnover, and then the leasing conversion project you had mentioned. Did a lot of that or did most of that normalize back down in the first quarter? And if so, you know, how should we think about further investment into areas like digital, potentially offsetting the decline in the base that you saw this quarter?

Yeah, the professional fees did not... They'll go away going into the second quarter, some of them. But as you alluded to, we do our investing back into a couple of, you know, some technology things in other investments. And we generally sometimes use consultants for those projects. So Ian or Rich, you want to touch more on the expense side?

Yeah,

happy

to. This is Ian. So from where we were in Q4 in the fourth quarter, we had some adjustments within accruals, both incentive accrual as well as just other accruals that related to FDIC expense that made Q4 a little bit higher than normal. Q1, we started to normalize. We still have some seasonal or one-time type expenses or professional fees as well as items related to annual audits and annual meeting expenses. So we expect the second quarter to come in around the same level as the first quarter. That'll offset the reduction in professional fees that Dennis just mentioned, but also include our annual merit increases that we give to our employees. So that'll keep us about flat for where we are now, maybe up a little bit. And then in the third and fourth quarter, we'll have some of that additional expense coming in for the reinvestment into the company, both in software expenses, professional fees, and some marketing expense as we start to do the digital online account opening.

And Justin, just to get some color around some of the expense reductions that we had, they were attributable to the elimination of our after-hour call center and our call center. So we saved some costs there that we were spending for the after-hour stuff and some employee costs. We also closed a branch in the fourth quarter. So we really saw that impact of some FTE saves. And there, we renegotiated our insurance and really kept the same level of coverage and picked up $160,000 with something like that. We did a record purge and eliminated some accounts that we were paying for on our Jack Henry system. So that's where all that expense reduction, a lot of it came from in the first quarter. And we're going to continue to look for those things. The team has done a really good job of identifying things. We've identified a few more things, but also we need to do that because we're investing back into the company.

Okay. And then I guess just from a budgeting standpoint, just putting that all together, is there a scenario where you're able to keep costs for the full year flat just for the full year when I compare it to 2024? Is that within the realm of possibility? I think about maybe kind of stable expenses next quarter and then maybe a tick higher, back closer to, call it $28 million a quarter through the back half. Is that realistic?

It is, yeah. We expect us to be less than $28 million in the second half.

Okay. Our merit

increases usually happen in the second quarter. But we got some things that we think help offset that as well.

Okay, great. And the investments we're making are

focused on revenue generating investments.

Okay. I appreciate the color there. I will step

back. Thanks so much, guys. Thanks, Brandon.

Our next question comes from the line of Brandon Nozol from HoftiCoop. Your line is open.

Hey, good afternoon, folks. How are you doing

well?

Brandon, how are you? Good.

Good. Thanks for all the detail you just offered on margin and expenses. That's super helpful. Maybe turning to the fee base. Seemed like it was a bit lighter than I was thinking for the quarter and down a bit year over year. Can you just kind of walk through the outlook for the various line items and kind of wrap that into an overall expectation for fee income in the new term? Thank you.

Yeah, we do think there'll be a bounce back. We're coming in the second quarter. Mortgage is usually light for us in that first quarter. It was a little bit lighter than the first quarter a year ago, but it wasn't way off. And we do expect that to pick up. Pipelines appear to be pretty good. So we do expect that to pick up. And then the leasing has been a little choppy trying to get a handle on that. But we do expect that that was a little bit lighter than we also anticipated. And we do expect that volume to pick back up as we go into the next, as we're into this second quarter.

Yeah, just adding to that, I thought that would be the wealth management fees that are still behaving as we would expect, except the AUM's is dropping because of the market volatility. Right.

Yeah, yeah, of course. That makes sense. Okay, excellent. Maybe sticking to the topic of fees, just more of a modeling question here. Do you folks happen to have the gain on sale split between mortgage and CLF for the quarter, both in terms of volumes and seed revenue? Yes,

I have that in front of me. So of the $600,000 gain on sale in the first quarter, 45% of that was from the leasing and finance business, 55% for mortgage. That works out to be about $270,000 for CLF and $330,000 for mortgage. In terms of the volume that was sold on mortgages, about $19 million. And on the volume that was sold for the leasing, about $7.6 million. So mortgage is comparable to the first quarter of 2024, which was $20 million at the time, $19 million for this quarter. And the leasing was $7.6 million, a little bit less than just last year, which was $12.6 million in the first quarter of last year. What we did see was the gain on sale on the mortgage side softening. We saw an average of .75% of the gain on sale in the first quarter of this year, compared to 2.10 in the first quarter of last

year. Okay, that's helpful, Coller. I appreciate it. Thanks for taking the questions. Thank you. Thanks, Brennan.

Our next question comes from the line of Terry McFoy from Stephen's Shill Line is open.

Hi, good afternoon, guys.

Hi, Terry.

The loan yields, the increase in the loan yields of nine basis points, really nice to see. And I'm just wondering, were there any interest recoveries or anything contributing to that? Or was that just new loans repricing higher and then kind of fixed rates doing the same thing?

There was nothing unusual in there. So it's just new loans repricing higher. Our team's really staying disciplined in their pricing. They really done a nice job there. And we think we'll continue to get some benefit there. As I mentioned, 110 million of loans repricing over the next two quarters. And then with the new stuff going on, those rates, we think there's room for improvement there.

Yeah, no, real nice to see. And then last quarter, there were the two loans, the multifamily loan under contract and the CNI loan that was going to be back in compliance. Dennis, you mentioned one of them, which one of the two loans was going to be resolved tomorrow? And then what's the status on the other one?

The multifamily should be resolved today or tomorrow, we should say. We're pretty confident that's going to go through. It was extended. We had thought it might be cleared up at the end of the first quarter, but the buyer wanted to extend that. It's a participation loan. The banks got together and said, well, extend it, but you've got to put a significant deposit down to do that. And they went hard with a significant amount of money to be able to extend that. So we're real confident on that. And I was hoping to have the answer that it had paid off before this call. The other loan is more of a community loan. And we're not at all concerned with it. It's just taking a little bit of time to work through some of their issues. The project was bonded, so we're waiting to hear from the bonding company. And then hopefully we'll continue to work, but we'll have greater clarity on that, hopefully in the next three or four weeks.

Then maybe one more. Dennis, what are you hearing from commercial borrowers or real estate developers, any sense of kind of cautiousness in putting things on pause given the tariffs and the situation?

We've been reaching out to different customers. And it's really been very enlightening. There are some businesses that view it as a positive and others view it as a negative. I would say the sentiment has been kind of a wait and see type of attitude for most of our borrowers, at least as to what the long-term effect will be. I do think it will slow some of the capex spending from some of our business borrowers in the first, here in the near term, this quarter, maybe next quarter, as they just wait to see what happens. So we think it impacts maybe people that are selling the finished product more so than those that are selling a piece or a part. Those customers seem like, as we've talked to them, they're able to pass on that cost. The person selling that end finished product to the end user, they seem a little bit more concerned whether they're going to be able to pass that on or not. But overall, I just think it's more of a wait and see type approach. And I do think it will slow some capex

spending. Great. Thanks for your insight. Thanks, Terry.

Our next question comes from the line of Manuel Navas from the ADEV. Hey,

I appreciate the color on sentiment. Is that evident in current pipelines? You said there's a bit of capex spending slowing a bit. Is that already showing up in your term in the second quarter? And then can you kind of talk about the range of growth? What could drive to the high end of your guide and what could drive to the low end of your guide?

On the loan book, are you talking Manuel?

Yes. Yes, loan book.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. I don't think it's in the current pipeline. I think most people are far enough along and they're not stopping all of a sudden. So I don't think it has. But I think from this point on may slow a little bit of that capex spending. As far as our economies are pretty good here in Ohio and southeastern Indiana, there's just a lot of activity still going on. Most of the, you know, the central Ohio and then, you know, the Cincinnati marketing stuff, they still are getting a lot of technology driven companies. Microsoft has announced a significant, you know, investment into central Ohio, Google and Amazon. And, you know, they're all building, you know, building facilities down there. And then you got Anderol, the defense contractor and stuff. So as those things take hold, I think it's going to continue to, you know, fuel the economy and the housing demand. You're going to see a pickup. You know, there's a lot more, you know, that we see builders, you know, building products and stuff. So I think things like that will continue to fuel things. And it benefits really the whole state because, you know, as you have companies like Anderol or Intel or something, they've got suppliers and those suppliers tend to locate closer to where they're building at. And that helps. It may not be in that exact market, but it could be three or four counties away, which benefits, you know, when our footprint covers really the whole state and southeastern Indiana. So I think those things will help us as we move forward. You know, our Northeast Ohio market, that's been a really good market for us. And Sherwin Williams just completed, you know, their building, downtown building, you know, their new headquarter building, where they're moving into. And they'll, you know, add a few jobs to that. And things like that, I think that just will continue to help our overall

economy here for the short term. And well, this is Rich. I know Dennis talked about last call and I think on this call, too. I mean, a governor for us, I mean, the thing that kind of gauges whether it be more loans or less loans is really our ability to fund those loans and whether or not we can attract, you know, the low cost deposits. We've had good success and we continue to have that success. And if we're able to implement the digital or online account opening successfully like we intend to in the back half of the year, I mean, that really would, I think, allow us to kind of hit the upper levels of kind of the projections that we shared.

Right. That's helpful.

In your guide. The note you write down is it only gets better. Well, we have had three

consecutive quarters of pretty good deposit growth, even though, you know, if you look at just the deposit growth we had in this quarter, remember that we reduced those broker deposits by 50 or 60 million dollars.

What is contemplated from the lease business in your growth guide and the fee guide? I know there's a little bit of a bounce back and fees. This is also a seasonally slower leasing quarter. Just kind of talk through kind of expectations for the year from leasing.

Well, leasing, I think we're projecting about $115 million dollars of total originations. And I think through the first quarter, that was the slowest quarter for them. So I think, you know, I think what we do in leasing revenue production, 16, 17 million or 20 million. We don't have that number, but that would have been their slowest quarter. So we do anticipate that to pick up as the year goes on, if that gives you any. We don't have the exact numbers, but if that gives you any feel for that.

Okay. That's helpful. It continues. Sell about half. Sell about half. Okay. That was the other piece. Okay. That's helpful. A lot of my other questions have been kind of asked and

okay. Thank you.

Again, if you would like to ask the question, please press star followed by one. Our next question comes from the line of Emily Lee from KBW. Your line is open.

Hi everyone. This is Emily stepping in for Tim Switzer. Thank you for taking my call. How are

you?

So I wanted to ask about deposit repricing. What are your expectations for deposit repricing if we were to get a scenario with say no rate cuts? I know you mentioned that you factored into rate cuts into your guidance. So just curious on your thoughts there.

Yeah. So we have, this is Ian. So we have, in terms of retail CDs that are coming up for maturity and we're probably somewhere in the neighborhood of about 100 to $140 million a quarter that are coming up for maturing. We should be picking up maybe 10 to 15 basis points on each of those as the comfort through renewals. We have put our highest rate on the shorter term. So our highest rate right now is on the seven month CD. We plan on keeping it that way just with all the uncertainty and volatility. That'll keep us protected from that standpoint. Also with our online account opening software or solution that will be launching in July. We expect our deposit cost would go up slightly, but our total cost of funding should decline.

So we'll raise our own deposits organically through probably some CDs and stuff and pay off that more expensive borrowed money or

broker deposits.

Okay, great. Thank you. And given that credit metrics improved a bit this quarter, can you give some details on your expectations for credit going forward, especially given the macro uncertainty?

You know, we still feel good about our loan book. I mean delinquencies are actually down quarter over quarter and they're still pretty close to historically low levels. You know, there's always some what-offs and stuff. We've had some repricing of the, you know, some of the reprice higher and that's caused some loans to be downgraded because of, you know, the rates are higher and the cash flow is, you know, doesn't quite meet our standards, but it's not significantly below thresholds. And in the same regards, so we, although we've moved some credits in, we're moving credits out. So, you know, we feel good where the credit is. You know, our allowance is really healthy. We have, you know, 1.30 percent in the allowance and we could charge off. We have, you know, we basically could, you know, we have 11 years of, if we took our charge-offs that we've had, we got an 11-year run on that. If we took out all, you know, took out, is that to criticize? That's the net charge-off. That's the net charge-off. Over the last 12 months, yeah. Yeah, so you take the net charge-offs over the last 12 months. If you took what those were,

there's 11 years in that allowance.

That's great. Thanks so much.

Thank you.

There are no further questions at this time. Mr. Shafer, please continue.

Okay. Well, thank you everyone.

I just want to recap kind of in summary, just to tell you how pleased I am with just our, with the quarter. I want to thank everyone for joining the call. You know, our quarter results were really attributable to the hard work that all of our team put in over the past several months and continues to put in. While we're pleased with the results of the first quarter, we are confident that our strong quarter-positivity and our proven discipline approach to managing the company really positions us well for future success. So, I just thank you again for joining the call. I look forward to talking to everyone in the next few months to share our second quarter results. So, thank you for your time today.

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the conference call for today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.