Centogene N.V.

Q4 2020 Earnings Conference Call

4/15/2021

spk04: Thanks, Sarah. Hello and welcome. Thank you for joining us to discuss our Q4 and full year 2020 results, which were issued earlier today. You can view this presentation and the related press release on Centogene's website. For those unable to view the webcast, you can find the relevant slides on investors.centogene.com. Before we begin, please refer to the slide two of our presentation, which provides information about certain statements to be made today that may be considered forward-looking statements. within the meaning of the U.S. securities laws, including those regarding our strategic plans, development programs, and future financial results. Statements made during this call that are not historical statements may be forward-looking statements, and as such may be subject to risks and uncertainties which, if they materialize, could materially affect our actual results. The forward-looking statements in this presentation speak only as of today, April 15th, 2021, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise any of these statements to reflect future events or developments, except as required by the law. Additional information regarding these statements appears on our SEC filings. It is now my pleasure to introduce you to today's speakers, our Chief Executive Officer, Andrew Oswald, and Richard Stoffel, our Chief Financial Officer. Following our presentation, we will open up the call to Q&A. We kindly ask you to only ask three questions. I will now hand the presentation over to Andrin. Please turn to slide four. Andrin.
spk07: Thank you, Leonard. Hello. Good afternoon. Good morning, everyone. Today, I will begin by walking you through our operational performance during 2020. I will update you on the progress of our core businesses, meaning the pharma and diagnostic segments, and provide you with further insights into our company and its key assets. Richard will then take you through the financials, including what we have been able to achieve in our commercial COVID-19 testing segment. We will then provide our financial guidance for 2021 and the business outlook. Afterwards, we will open up for Q&A. Let's please turn to slide five. Well, let me first highlight the key messages for today. We had a very strong performance from a revenue perspective, having more than doubled in 2020 compared to 2019. The company surpassed 100 million euros in revenues for the first time in its history for a record year overall. Additionally, we have achieved a record adjusted EBITDA. Both revenues and adjusted EBITDA were driven by the COVID-19 testing segment in the second half of the year. I believe this is a truly impressive achievement and a credit to the strong performance of a dedicated working team at CentoGene, especially during a very challenging year. When looking at the core business, I want to underline that this is our firm focus for 2021 and beyond. Even though the core segments overall financials for 2020 reflect the headwinds from the pandemic, I'm pleased to say that our diagnostic segment continued recovering since the lows in the second quarter, and sample and order intake value in q1 2021 is approximately on par with q1 2020 and growing in pharma we signed 60 new collaborations in 2020 and the further 16 extensions of existing collaborations as such i'm confident that the overall core business is back on track for growth Looking at 2021, the positive financial contribution from our COVID-19 testing segment leaves us in a stronger financial position. These contributions have allowed us to make continued investments into our rare disease core business, Accentogene. Accentogene embarks on its next phase of growth. On that topic, I'm pleased to invite you all to our virtual investor event planned for June 22nd, where I will, together with the CentoGene executive team, provide further insights and discuss the company's strategy and future direction. Let us now discuss the company's 2020 performance. Please turn to slide six. In 2020, our revenues more than doubled compared to 2019, reaching 128.4 million euros. This increase was driven by COVID-19 testing, which accounted for 89.3 million euros for the full year and 59.8 million euros in the fourth quarter. We experienced headwinds for sure from the COVID-19 pandemic that impacted our core business segments, particularly in the second and third quarter of 2020. The core segments gradually recovered towards the end of the year, but did not match our prior year's performance overall. That meant that the full year revenues within the farmer segment decreased by 21% and within diagnostics by 19%. However, COVID-19 testing revenues have enabled us to more than make up for the headwinds in the core business. As we look ahead into 2021, I'm confident that we will return to solid core business growth. Now please turn to slide seven to have a closer look at diagnostics. Firstly, I'd like to share an update on the momentum in our diagnostic segment. The graph on this slide depicts the sample ordering take value for each quarter. Using Q1 of 2020 as a benchmark for pre-pandemic levels. You can clearly see the levels falling dramatically to approximately 50% of normal levels in the second quarter of 2020. showing the impact of COVID-19 pandemic. Since then, we have steadily seen levels of recovery each quarter to approximately 80% of pre-pandemic levels in Q4 2020 overall. And as already mentioned, I'm pleased to say that we have seen the trend to continue in Q1 2021 with sample order intake values approximately on par with Q1 2020 and growing. I believe this demonstrates the ongoing and increasing need for our testing services. In 2020, we maintained also and built our leadership further in rare disease diagnostics and continue to strengthen our superior scientific insights and knowledge. We laid the foundation for this by offering 55 peer-reviewed publications in 2020, which was a record year for SEM2GENE. This truly demonstrates our commitment to continuously unlocking further insights into rare genetic diseases. Some of the scientific achievements are shown on the slide. Many of them are proof points for increasing diagnostic yield with genome sequencing and how we are providing bioinformatics tools to enable best-in-class diagnostic interpretation. Furthermore, our research is aimed to uncover specific genotype-phenotype associations to understand novel causes and unknown syndromes. We view our contribution in better understanding rare diseases at the core of our commitment to patients around the world, aiming to provide the best in class diagnostic possible for rare diseases. And you can expect more of this in 2021. Please turn to slide eight. As explained, we saw a dip in the number of sample and order intakes in our diagnostic segment. This is true for the overall core business. as you can see here on the left side of the chart. However, we still make progress on growing our bio and data bank, which includes samples as well as data and cell lines. On the graph on the right, you see the number of individuals in our data repository. Over the course of a difficult 2020, we still added approximately 100,000 individuals to our rare disease-centric data and biobank, an increase of approximately 20%. In the next few slides, I would like to demonstrate how this biobank translates into valuable data assets. Please turn to slide nine. It is Antigen's mission to revolutionize the understanding of rare diseases by connecting patients and their biology. This allows us to address different use cases for value creation. Our biobank can be visualized as is here. On the outer layers, there are hundreds of thousands of individuals for which we have clear genetic information. This data drives our general knowledge on the underlying genetic constellations, which in turn builds up superior diagnostic insights and enables us to find and diagnose patients. One example of being able to provide value in the patient finding process was recently demonstrated regarding a sordid gene, a novel genetic cause of neuropathy. A global academic consortium recently identified 45 patients carrying a mutation in this gene. While this is a new genetic cause only just identified, central genes biobank already contains 42 patients, all with exome and genome sequencing performed, and most of them with HBO terms-based clinical descriptions. This truly demonstrates that we already have patients in our biobank, in many cases, are able to quickly respond and be ideally positioned to support R&D for finding new patients, even for new diseases. In addition to the growing size of the database, we also prioritize its quality. One reason we believe our data bank is unique, apart from its focus on rare diseases, is the unique linkage of phenotypical information and diagnostic findings. We ensure this through careful curation of the cases In a way, we measure the quality of the data descriptions through standardized HPO terms. The continuous improvements to the quality of the data and the phenotypical information is reflected by the increase of average number of HPO terms per patient sample in our database, up from five in 2019 to eight in 2020. Another example of the patient finding aspect of our databank are sponsored genetic testing collaborations like the one with Takeda. The program focuses on lysosomal storage disorders for which an enzyme replacement therapy exists, such as Sabric, Gaucher, or Hunter syndrome. The goal is to enable a faster path to identify patients via biochemical screening or genetic analysis and accelerate patients receiving a diagnosis and potential access to treatment. In a normal year, we screen approximately 40,000 to 50,000 samples for Takeda. And as announced earlier this week, we are pleased to report that we have extended our collaboration with Takeda in Q1 2021. When moving from the diagnostic use case to the acceleration of drug and therapy development, we are looking at the specific data points and tools that help identify biomarkers, genetic modifiers, and potential targets. These are the data sets for which we have more information available, superior description of phenotypes, research content in place, and complete genetic information as well as multiomic information. The middle layer displayed enables clinical trial support and patient stratification use cases. The recent example is the Denali Corporation on Parkinson's. At the core, you will see the areas we view as having full disease models available, which then also include cell models to be used for in vitro compound screening via stem cells. Each layer allows us to address different use cases internally and, of course, with pharma partners. On the next slide, I would like to highlight two in particular. Please turn to slide 10. A good example of a collaboration on the clinical trial case or the middle layer of the sphere previously shown is our ROPAT study. This global study demonstrates both our innovative capabilities and how it can be a value driver for patient and former partners and internal development. As a brief reminder, CenterChain entered into strategic collaboration with Denali Therapeutics for the target global identification and recruitment of Parkinson's disease patients with mutations in the LRRK2 gene in 2018. We were proud to announce recently that the study now includes over 10,000 participants from over 120 sites globally, which we believe to be the most comprehensive dataset on genetic Parkinson's disease today. We utilized our broad physician network, which is particularly strong in neurology, to successfully identify hundreds of patients with LARC2 mutations. The study also created further novel insights. We leveraged our biobank to analyze and predict consequences of reducing LARC2 function, an important element for our partner Denali Therapeutics, who is working on the LARC2 inhibitor. In fact, the rich data in our biobank already contained individuals with homozygous loss function and without clinical symptoms, which are especially valuable to Denali. Based on a large cohort of individuals for which exome and genome sequencing had been performed in a diagnostic setting and for a wide range of phenotypes, we did not find evidence for heterozygous or homozygous poor loss of function variants to cause any distinct phenotype. And thus, our data facilitated the conceptual novel confirmation of the safety of LRRK2 activity reduced treatment strategies in Parkinson's disease, fundamentally de-risking the therapeutic development of such inhibitors. On that note, I'm very pleased to announce that we have just signed an extension of the contract with Denali for another 2,500 patients. In addition, we also believe that this unique data set will be very valuable beyond LRRK2. including the potential to identify new disease modifier or targets for Parkinson's, an opportunity that we are exploring internally and also with other potential partners. Let us now please turn to slide 11. I would like to highlight the targeted drug discovery case here. You know that Gaucher is one of our focus areas where we leverage our deep data and biobank. In authoring numerous publications, we have shown that power of Lysol GP1 is a biomarker for diagnostics as well as a tool for monitoring treatment response and quality. Now we have a large cohort. We have over 1,800 diagnosed Gaucher cases in our data bank. Looking at the depth of the biobank, we have over 135 of last samples. and has built patient-derived tissue-specific cell models to allow us to continue to build a full disease model for Gaucher, thus enabling, accelerating, and de-racing therapy development. In essence, we went from clinical to the preclinical stage here. To this effect, we have set up disease models and the needed multilayer multi-omic tool. A disease model for us is the patient-derived tissue-specific cell model from stem cells established with relevant readouts. On the side of bioinformatic tools, we have generated better insights into Gaucher disease through an extended multi-omics disease map for lysosomal storage disorders by mapping Gaucher disease subtypes from gene to phenotype. Now, our clear ambition is that the core data set we create can be used to identify pathways, targets, and modifying genes. We have set up two work streams in this regard. First, we are looking at Lyso-GB1 as a well-known target. This is well underway as part of our partnership with Evotek, where they bring access to the large molecule library they own. We have evaluated the first chemical compounds in our disease model in 2021 and will continue these efforts in the coming months. The collaboration is built on co-investment and sharing of findings. The progress should be apparent in the next six to eight months. Additionally, we are also looking into another target discovery, exploring modifying genes. We anticipate that target mining and novel target identification will take 12 to 18 months. In the meantime, the research project here will drive the development of our multi-omics platform and capabilities, which will support the use case for all the disease areas as well. And of course, we won't stop at Gaucher. I believe our bio and data bank and its expansive physician network is uniquely strong in neuroscience, metabolic diseases, such as lysosomal storage disorders. The progress on gauche is something we are replicating other disease errors and we are prioritizing the next disease errors we believe we can do so. We will update you on those in the upcoming investor event. Please turn to slide 12. I want to give you a quick update also on our management team. We have restructured it to really better reflect the two core segments where we drive value in the future. In my mind has always had a fantastic thrive for science and following science. But we now want to pair the scientific know-how also with commercial know-how and competence. And to that extent, we have created leadership teams consisting of the commercial scientific leader for both our diagnostic as well as our pharmaceutical segment. Those teams will be jointly driving and the value creation of these specific segments going forward. They are, of course, supported by dedicated, highly skilled functions such as bioinformatics and HR. And in that regard, I want to give you also an update on two new members that joined us just recently. And first, I would like to introduce Nathalie Dust, who has joined CenterGene as our new Chief Human Resource Officer starting in March. Nathalie has a strong track record of developing talent, fostering company culture, and building required capabilities to achieve a company strategy. Over the past decade, she has spearheaded a number of large-scale projects in the talent era, such as building capabilities for livestock and farmer companies, focusing value, driving skills, and behaviors. I think this will be particularly important as we move forward to our next growth trajectory. I would also like to welcome Maximilian Schmidt. He recently joined us as Chief Commercial Officer, Diagnostics. Max will be responsible for Diagnostics business strategy and growth. He brings an entrepreneurial spirit, having worked at the Silicon Valley startup before they were acquired by Roche. At Roche, Max was a member of the global leadership team of its sequencing business unit before he joined us. You will have the opportunity to hear from the team directly at our investor event in June. Well, with that said, let me hand it over to Richard to walk you through the financials in more detail. Richard, over to you.
spk08: Thank you, André. Could I kindly ask you to turn to slide 14? Our full year 2020 revenues grew by an impressive 163% compared to 2019. This was largely driven by COVID-19 testing revenues, which brought in close to 19 million euros in revenues for the full year. The core business segments experienced headwinds due to the COVID-19 pandemic, particularly in the second quarter. and the financials for the core segments reflect the challenging year. The pharma segment recorded 17 million euros in revenues, a 21% decrease compared to 2019. The diagnostic segment recorded 22.1 million euros in revenues, a 19% decrease compared to the year 2019. While such results are disappointing for the core business, I believe the company was nimble and effective in its response to the circumstances as we made good use of our diagnostic capabilities. We are well positioned as we continue into 21 and we'll get back to solid core business growth to materialize Centogene's long-term potential in its core segments. The slowdown in revenues translated into a decrease in adjusted EBITDA for both core business segments. Nonetheless, we are pleased with the momentum in the pharma segment currently and look forward to this translating into revenues in 21. The adjusted EBITDA margin in pharma decreased to 37% for the year, as the diagnostic segment showed a solid recovery in the second half of the year. Fixed cost elements resulted in the adjusted EBITDA margin declining for the year overall to minus 11%. Having said that, I want to emphasize that if sample volumes had been at pre-pandemic levels, adjusted EBITDA for the diagnostic segment would have been positive for the year. The COVID-19 testing segment leveraged 42% adjusted EBDR margin for the full year. Even though we do not have a comparison to 2019, I want to note that such includes upfront expenses for the setup of our COVID-19 segment at the beginning of 2020. Consequently, adjusted EBDR margins improved in the third and fourth quarter as we increased the revenue substantially throughout the year. Now, let's look at a further breakdown of where revenues in our segments came from in 2020. Please turn to slide 15. As usual, we provide you with the breakdown of revenues in our farmer segment by new and existing contracts for the period. As a reminder, we define a new contract as one signed in the last 12 months. We are happy to report the signing of 16 new contracts in 2020. The majority of the 16 new contracts were signed in the second half and did not result in recognized revenues for 2020. Rather, we will see the revenues of deep contracts in 21 and therefore the revenues for new contracts presented here are not an accurate reflection of our farmer segments momentum. In saying that, we did see revenues from existing contracts increased by 10% in 2020 compared to 2019. While it is our goal to grow the farmer segment, it is nevertheless encouraging to see our existing collaborations bring in a robust revenue space, even in a year as challenging as 2020. Looking at the diagnostic segment, revenues from NIPT decreased in 2020 compared to 2019. As mentioned in previous quarters, NIPT is not a core focus of our strategy. Revenues from other tests decreased by 19% compared to 2019, which was due to the previously discussed headwinds to our diagnostic segment. As for the COVID-19 segment, we demonstrated a significant ramp up in each quarter in 2020, particularly in the second half of the year, which led to the substantial contribution to our top line for the year. Now, please turn to slide 16, where I will discuss the financials for the fourth quarter in more detail. Looking at our revenues for the fourth quarter of 2020, COVID-19 testing brought in 59.8 million euros. In addition, we recorded an adjusted EBDR margin of 45% in that segment, which was an increase from 35% in Q3 2020. Although COVID-19 testing is not strategic to our business long-term, the financial contribution from this segment will support us in making key strategic investments into our core segments. Shifting to our core business segments, in pharma we recorded €4.7 million in revenues in Q4, which was a 41% decrease compared to the same period in 2019. In diagnostics, revenues decreased by 19% compared to Q4 2019 to €5.8 million. These financial outcomes reflect the trends we discussed earlier in the presentations, whereas signed pharma partnership contracts will result in 21 revenues and diagnostics will continue recovering towards the end of the year. Let us now finish discussing other key financial elements for this period. Please turn to slide 17. Looking at our income statement, we have already mentioned the increase in revenues for a record total for the company of more than 128 million euros. Such increase in revenues drove an increase in gross profit of approximately 19.2 million euros in 2020 compared to last year. Our expenses, including other operating income, increased by approximately 20.2 million euros for the year compared to 2019. As a result, the operating result was lowered by approximately 1 million euros. Let me comment on the two biggest factors that drove this increase in expenses. Firstly, general administrative expenses increased by approximately 14.5 million euros. As mentioned last quarter, the increase in G&A costs are primarily a result of being a public company, such as D&O insurance, corporate governance, investor relations expenses, and share-based payment expenses. Naturally, we did not incur those costs in 2019. In addition, we incurred costs related to our COVID-19 testing efforts, including continuing to internally test our employees to keep the company operational, as well as some upfront costs related to test site expansions. Second, our R&D expenses for the year were up by approximately 5.3 million euros. This increase was driven mostly by personnel costs and IQ-related expenses. This is reflected on our continued commitment to advancing our biomarkers, databases, And technology platforms such as AI. It also emphasizes that although we experienced headwinds in our core segments this year, we did not lose focus of our long term strategy and mission of the company towards rare diseases. Now please turn to slide 18. Let us have a closer look at the cash flow and balance sheet. cash flow from operating activities improved significantly compared to last year. The additional revenues from COVID-19 testing and the healthy adjusted DBDR margin in that segment led to a positive cash flow. Looking at the change in cash flow used for investing activities compared to 2019, I would like to emphasize that the cash flow from investing activities last year included a net positive cash flow of 21.3 million euros from the sale and leaseback of our Rostock headquarters. Taking that into account, The negative cash flow originated from our investments in PP&E and right of use assets, mainly related to starting our COVID-19 segments, including the development of our Corona test portal. Cash flow from financing activities decreased compared to 2019, as our IPO in 2019 resulted in roughly double the raise when compared to our full-on equity offering in July 2020. As of December 2020, we had 48.2 million euros of cash and cash equivalent on our balance sheet, which I believe is a strong financial position for a company the size of Sandstreet. Regarding our outstanding debt, I would like to remind you that as of year end 2020, this includes more than 21 million euros of lease liabilities. Having looked at our performance for 2020, let me now update you on our financial guidance for 21. Please turn to slide 20. Finally, firstly, let's start with our core business. We have seen the core business segment recover towards the end of 2020 and into 2021. As such, we believe we can return to solid growth in our core business. Moving to our COVID-19 testing segment, we will continue leveraging the contribution from that segment. As uncertainties remain around the vaccine rollout, it is possible that demand may be different than we perhaps expected. Based on the current trajectory, we anticipate revenues from the COVID-19 segment in 21 to be approximately the same level as in 2020. Now, let me hand it back to André for a 21 business outlook. Please turn to slide 21.
spk07: Thank you, Richard. Before we get into Q&A, let me summarize the presentation briefly and highlight the key takeaways from today's discussion. We had a strong finish to the year, and enter 2020 with triple digit revenues from the first time in company's history for a record top line growth. Whilst the segment is not strategic or a long-term focus for us, the financial tailwind from COVID-19 testing means we enter 2021 with a robust balance sheet, and that allows us to continue our investments in our core business. And I'm pretty confident that COVID-19 testing will also contribute significantly during this year. But I would like to reiterate again that the focus in 2021 will be our core business segments. They are what drives the long-term value and growth of the company. And it is our priority to see these segments to foster and grow. We have seen the level of sample order intake value return to approximately 80% of normal pre-pandemic levels at the end of 2020. In addition, we have seen that the trend continues in Q1 2021 with sample intake more or less at the level of Q1 2022 and growing. This is an encouraging sign and we anticipate those levels remain robust going forward and that we will emerge stronger post-pandemic than we were before. Our pharma partnerships are also slowly starting to pick up again. We have signed 60 new deals in the second half of 2020. We have extended 16 collaborations. And I believe that we will see more new deals coming in in the next couple of months. I also view our data and biobank as the key asset delivering value for orphaned rock development and the driver of our long-term value growth. We plan to deploy the asset more strategically and sharpen the value propositions for both our farmer partners as for our own internal development. I would also like to invite you to the upcoming investor event. Hopefully you have noticed some first steps we have taken today to be more transparent and clear on what we do and on things that matter to you. I would like to take the opportunity on the 22nd to dive deeper into our strategy, how we create value, and I would like to do that with our executive team that you can engage with there. Due to COVID-19 restrictions, it will be hosted in a virtual format Unfortunately, we will update you further on the agenda and registration for the event, but please save the date. I look forward to seeing you there and hopefully many of you. Overall, I'm confident about the change the gene can and will do for rare disease community and to amplify the impact that we have on patient and families awaiting answers on diagnostics and therapies. I will now turn the call over to our operator for Q&A, Please kindly, I would like to remind you not to ask more than three questions, so we have time to get to as many of you as possible. Thank you for joining us today.
spk10: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star and one on your telephone. To withdraw your question, please press the pound or hash key. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Puneet Surda from SVB Link. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.
spk03: Hi, guys. This is actually Wesley on for Puneet today. Thanks for taking the questions, and congrats on the quarter. I wanted to start on the outlook for 2021 and more specifically on the COVID testing side of things. Rich, I appreciate your comments on approximately similar levels year over year and the difficulty that goes into modeling out the COVID testing cadence, but just given where we are, having the first quarter closed at this point, if you could provide any additional clarity on the cadence of testing throughout the year, and if you see any opportunity for COVID surveillance testing as well.
spk07: Yeah, maybe just two thoughts before I hand over to Richard. I hope you understand that, you know, forecasting COVID is tricky. You cannot easily compare quarter over existing or future quarter. I mean, the results are impacted to some extent almost adversely in the sense that if, you know, the pandemic, we're talking about Europe here where, you know, our COVID testing is happening, when the pandemic gets worse, and travel restrictions increase, we see somewhat less testing. And when the pandemic gets better, we see more. Given that we go more or less from wave to wave and the restrictions are constantly changing, it's hard to tell exactly where we're going to end up. I mean, I think we had a good first quarter as far as reviews for COVID are concerned. And I'm pretty confident that especially as vaccinations progress and traveling takes up, the numbers can look even better. But how good they will look, I think that's frankly anyone's guess. It's mostly influenced by the pandemic and government policies. Richard, over to you for any other thoughts there.
spk08: Thank you very much, Chandran. Thank you, Wes, for asking the question. As you do appreciate in asking the question, we have not closed Q1 formally yet. So my guidance will vary depending on the progress of the pandemic, as well as the vaccination programs and travel patterns, as André just expressed. We would expect the first half of the year being somewhat similar to the second half of last year. And we feel very comfortable in saying that when looking at the initial closing of Q1 for COVID revenues.
spk07: And on the- Yeah.
spk03: Yeah. I was going to follow up there. Thank you.
spk07: Just quickly on the second part. I mean, yes, we do that in Germany, but given the guidance and the German policy on that front, and also the fixed revenues you can make with it. I mean, we, while we do it, we don't think this will be a major revenue contributor overall.
spk03: Great. Thank you for that. And then, so I guess sticking on the first quarter, looking towards the diagnostics part of the business, Appreciate that volumes are beginning to return to pre-pandemic levels. I'm curious on the mix of those volumes. I know that you've previously been seeing some momentum in higher value tests. So just how we can expect the mix of volumes to trend and what that means for the top line as a result.
spk08: Yeah, we haven't dived into that analysis as we were focusing on closing the full year and the full reporting of the 20F. but I have heard nothing to the contrary of the trend we saw before, Wes.
spk03: All right, and then just finally looking forward to the investor day in June, Andrew, now that you've had some time to get to know the company over the past few months, just curious on some of the key priorities for the next year, where you see some opportunities, and Rich, I guess, how you're feeling about the cash position currently and where some opportunities might lie there. Thank you.
spk07: So I don't want to, you know, Steve, the thunder, I guess you will have to have a little bit of patience until we, we have the investor event. But I think as mentioned during the presentation, I do believe that we have a great asset with our bio and data bank. And I think while we focus on, ensuring that you clearly built the use cases that you have identified, then mine our data and really line it up with the value that can be generated with it. I think we will have fantastic disease areas where we can bring a lot of value to the table. So with a bit more focus on those priorities and then really aligning our resources and investing behind them, I think we will see good development and we can share with you milestones that we expect along the way over the next couple of quarters and how this will translate into visible progress.
spk08: Yeah, when answering your question, Wes, in respect of our cash position, we're very comfortable, particularly as we see a continuation of this healthy revenue contribution of COVID. So we're very comfortable there. Great. Thank you.
spk10: Our next question comes from the line of Aaron Wright from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.
spk02: Great. Thanks so much for taking my question. So my first one is, can you speak to, to what the changes were with your Chiquita relationship and the expansion of the contract there? How big of an opportunity that is for you and, and, and also what, what were your new partner farmer partnerships signed in the quarter versus extensions of existing relationships?
spk07: Yeah. So I think on the, on the Takeda, extension. On the extension itself, we are pretty much continue doing what we have done there with Takeda in the past. And we do have other collaborations with Takeda in rare diseases beyond that specific effort. And I think we definitely, of course, want to take the opportunity in the next couple of quarters, engage in Takeda on those further so that we will develop additional new partnerships along the use cases that I've outlined with Takeda. Those discussions are ongoing and we will see where that leads us in the next couple of quarters. I think on the signing of other deals and the names I've referred to Richard as I'm not entirely clear in terms of what we can share and what is confidential.
spk08: Happy to step in. We cannot disclose too much detail on a numeric basis, unfortunately. But we are not unhappy with the extension of the contract. Let's put it that way.
spk02: Okay. That's helpful. And then I guess, can you speak to kind of how the pharma partnership pipeline is looking heading into this year and, and has anything changed in terms of your strategy around acquiring new pharma partnerships? Or can you remind us about how you're, you're, you're actively marketing and soliciting kind of new business from a partnership perspective?
spk07: So the, I think that the pipeline looks pretty, uh, strong in my mind. So again, I feel pretty confident, as you said before, that we will, with that pipeline, even in a risk-adjusted way, you know, be able to get that business back to growth and have a good year compared to last year. There's no doubt in my mind. And in terms of how we approach it, there is some form of a change there, I think, that we have been initiating to be more specific. I think in the past, our partnership approach was a bit opportunistic. I mean, we were to talk to people at the conference, had some scientific discussion, and out of it came an interesting idea and something you know would start in I think now the size of the company that we are and the expansiveness of the biobank that we have I think we want to formalize those use cases as I try to give you a first outline on more specifically so that we have a much clearer service offerings that we can bring more you know I would say repetitively to a broader number of partners with a high level of confidence of course then the organization can also deliver that against them I think we are also looking at expanding our commercial presence. And I highlighted how we start, of course, with that at the top. But then when I look at the opportunity, how big the market is and what we could do, I think we will do better by also increasing our resources there that we can really cover the partner universe. There are many companies now engaged in neurogenetic diseases, and I think we have not yet maxed out with regards to first being able to bring our value propositions to as many of them as possible. And I think the last point is that I want to be more mindful in terms of how also we maximize the partnerships in terms of what is a simple service where we offer for a transaction fee and where are we better off to really strategically partner in the value creation because we want to participate in the upside. And in that regard, I think we're developing our framework. I don't think it will be either or, meaning that we will just do simple services or want to do only EvoTech type of partnerships, but we want to have more clarity on what opportunity is good enough for us to also invest some of our own money and how we communicate that in the future.
spk10: OK, great. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Alex from . Please go ahead. Your line is now open.
spk06: Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. With respect to your biobank repository, I noted the increase in Q4 was somewhat lower than previous quarters, I think 5 versus 40,000. Could you provide some more color on that?
spk07: The increase on what? I'm sorry, I didn't understand you. I think overall, you know, there can be slight changes with regards. Normally what comes from the clinical diagnostic, from the diagnostic segment is pretty significant. you know, steady, meaning it's growing as the diagnostic business grows. On the pharma side, you can, of course, see some variances. I mean, if you do a larger, you know, clinical program with a pharma partner, then, of course, the samples come in over a couple of months while that recruiting, you know, takes on. But those should be, you know, smaller changes quarter or quarter. I wouldn't get too much hung up on that. I think overall, we expect the sample intake to continue and steadily grow. Now we are, as you said, for the year, I think we had about a 20% overall growth over the year, and I would expect this to accelerate during next year.
spk06: Got it. Thank you. And looking at your G&A expenses, I understand it was primarily due to being a listed company. And what can we expect for 2021 would be a similar magnitude increase work or were there someone else in last year.
spk08: So I think that a hundred Yeah, please go ahead, Richard. Yeah, hi, Alex. Thank you for asking that question. It's a little bit of the elements in the room that we don't want to move around. No, we don't expect a similar increase. The increase was kind of a once increase, but it will be retained at a certain level, even though we are every year carefully reviewing where we spend our money. So we spend it in the wisest way possible, which we will do for this year as well. Part of it was also related to setting up new test centers in the COVID segment, which we don't know yet whether that will be continuous to be expanded into this year, or given how the pandemic would evolve, that that would not be part of it anymore. So a careful review, but not anticipated the similar increase as we had from 19 to 20, not at all.
spk07: Yeah, and two points I would add. as the newcomer. I mean, there's little doubt in my mind that during a turbulent 2020 where, you know, the company was, you know, in a couple of months trying to build up, you know, the COVID response. And if you think what that meant, right, in terms of, you know, rare disease testing volumes compared to the COVID testing volume, the COVID testing volume is about 10 times bigger than what you normally do with rare disease. So what this meant with regards to you know, bringing people in, you know, strengthening logistics and what have you. I mean, this was a massive, massive effort. So I do think now, you know, with this being a separate business, you need to manage on its own. I mean, if you have a very careful look at our GNA, let's go deeply into it and say, what do we really need for the future? And is there here and there something maybe that we can, you know, wind down against or rest assured that, um, we're going to make sure that efficiency exists on that side. I mean, that being said, I think it's worthwhile to note that, and I assume you have some understanding for that. I mean, you cannot compare our DNA to a typical biotech company who is just moving one or two molecules through the pipeline. I mean, our business has, of course, a global presence, especially on the diagnostic side with a global commercial presence. presence with, uh, you know, representation in, uh, I think over 50 countries and what have you. Yeah. So there is a certain, of course, GNA cost, you know, that is needed for us, um, which looks big if you wish as compared to the diagnostic business, but less big if it looks compared to all the samples we also get through that and how we build up our biome data bank with it.
spk06: Got it. No, thank you. That's very, that's very helpful. And, um, With respect to your pharma business growth in 2021, as U.S. and Europe look to be reopening at different rates, is there some kind of difference in how your pharma business is exposed to Europe versus U.S.?
spk07: A bigger part of our pharma business is in the U.S. meaning that customer situation in that, you know, it's not a surprise that of course in the U S as a, the largest life science and biotech, um, you know, community overall. So in that, um, you know, sense you would think, um, and it's probably fair to assume that to think they're not, they've recovery if you wish and we'll be fostering the U S where we are stronger than in Europe. Um, I do think that the overall, you know, R and D is going on. I mean, there is not so much a, I would say the argument we would make, there is no R and D, but it is true that given that a lot of the deals that we do are based on the exchange, you know, the, The business building, the value offering, not having at least the last couple of quarters, any conferences or normal convenings where you can bring your value to the table and can start these discussions was quite a challenge. And certain things you can do virtually on the Teams call, but not everything. So I think while the opening up happens, I'm pretty confident. And as I said before, I mean, we're also adding some commercial opportunities. resources there for us to really be well-positioned to get out there and make sure our value proposition reaches not just the existing but also new customers.
spk06: Thank you and I look forward to the 22nd June.
spk10: Our next question comes from the line of Catherine Sheard from Baird. Please go ahead, your line is now open.
spk05: Hi, everyone. This is actually Tom on for Catherine. Appreciate the questions and congrats on the quarter. So I just wanted to first get into sort of monthly pacing on the diagnostic side in 4Q and any color into 1Q21. I appreciated sort of the comparisons to 1Q20, but I was just curious if you saw any significant monthly differences given sort of COVID flare-ups.
spk07: Well, Richard, shall I take that?
spk08: Take it or I could. I'm just going back to the slide where we showed a graph on the sample intake, but that would be the most helpful.
spk07: Yeah, I mean, you saw that on that graph on which page was it? That was slide seven. Slide seven. Of course, you know, we don't show monthly numbers there, so there's a bit of labeling But otherwise, I mean, these numbers are, the trend there is accurate. And the monthly variation is sometimes there for two reasons. I mean, we have in certain countries larger contracts, let's say, with the hospital chain. And it can be that there, you know, some batch of tests comes in, you know, in the end of the month or the beginning of the month. They can move the numbers a bit. But I think apart from that, I mean, we don't see that much of a variation. I mean, the trend is pretty clear.
spk08: Yeah, I'd like to add that typically the only variation you see is in the number of days or some of our bigger customers, they kind of stack together all the samples for a week. So sometimes it's just in one month versus the other because how the week ends or how the week starts and when they ship them. But that's nothing that we are really focusing on on a quarterly basis. We see an upward trend like we were seeing before the pandemic as well. We're almost at pre-pandemic levels, as you could see at flight level. So we are very comfortable there.
spk05: Great. That's helpful. Moving to the pharma side, I appreciate sort of the color on the extended momentum sort of from the back half. I was just curious more broadly, you know, how conversations with concurrent and potential, you know, pharma partners is evolving, particularly as 2021 budgets become finalized. I guess what I'm trying to get at is, you know, would you sort of characterize project timelines and outlook as kind of more or less immune to COVID shocks and flare-ups at this point now that sort of those expectations are sort of built into pharma 2021 outlooks as well?
spk07: Yes, they're, they're built in. I think, I mean, who knows what suddenly an unexpected mutation would do to the, to the world, but based on everything which is known today, I mean, the, you know, the gradual recovery with some uncertainty remaining, of course, for the end of the year is factored in there. And so in our, I would say optimism and what we said about where we think the former business will be this year. In my mind, the, the uncertainty that is remained is for me more on the, also how we structure certain deals. I mean, as I tried to describe before, you know, you can structure a deal with a former partner by which we pretty much sell, you know, an element of our biobank and create some revenue with it, but then the asset is gone. Or you can structure a deal by which in the other extreme, the coin vest, because we believe it creates long-term value and you don't see anything in the top line, but the value of that deal may be bigger than some revenue generated during this year. And while we think through how we structure those deals and then how we set them up for the future, I think that creates, of course, some uncertainty, not on the overall value creation, but in terms of how much short-term revenue you were to see versus long-term value creation.
spk05: No, that makes sense. That's very helpful. I want to follow up lastly, maybe on the COVID side. Just sort of, you know, I think you sort of touched on this as to, you know, travel opening up, et cetera, could actually be beneficial for volume. So, you know, it seems like you'd expect your airport testing partnerships, you know, to continue. Are there any other opportunities that you're working through on this sort of side, kind of getting at, you know, something like a travel corridor, et cetera? And then I was also just curious how, if at all, mix shift has changed from a COVID diagnostic standpoint for you guys. What has changed?
spk07: Sorry, I didn't understand the last piece of your question.
spk05: Sorry, just mix shift between giving the antigen offering.
spk07: Yeah, okay, got it. Understood. I think on the product mix, I think we clearly have our offering in the in the high quality, high end, right? I mean, that's same for rare disease genetic testing. We are the high end, high quality solution provider, and that's the same for COVID-19 testing. So we do PCR. We are also, of course, going with the trend to make it faster and faster. So you get a more rapid turnaround, even at an airport of your PCR result. And so that you can basically go to the airport, at least if you're If you're not the one who rushes to be there 10 minutes before the flight leaves, but if you go as you should according to the guideline, you can actually do your testing at the airport, wait for the result, and then move on. And we also do have an antigen test, but only the, again, what we call high-quality lab-tested antigen. So the idea really for us is that we want to make sure that our test results are professionally confirmed and then can serve as confirmation for travel or for whatever you need to do from an authority point of view. I mean, that's the business that we are in. And we believe that it's highly likely that, you know, these policies that you will have to test and show these results in a confirmatory way that will continue. I do believe that, you know, the mutations that are circulating While I'm not so worried that they will plunge us back into lockdowns, I do believe that they will probably mean that testing will be required for a longer period of time, at least for traveling. I also believe, to your question on the customer base, I also believe that there will be a certain risk of flare-ups within a country, especially, as I said, if new mutations were to emerge, which may not overfill the hospital, but still, if not diagnosed, would create, you know, that spread in already vaccinated people. So I think there will be, or it's absolutely possible that there will be need for also, you know, in-country testing. And I think in that regard, next to having testing centers at major cities, we are also establishing and have established contracts with major organizations. Those are large corporations or government entities who really want to make sure that they have solutions in place that allow them to contain any future spread within an organization. So that's basically what our key customer segments are, if you wish.
spk05: Great. Thanks again.
spk04: Thank you. Just trying to be mindful of time. We've got a few minutes left, so trying to be succinct as possible, Sarah, with the next questions. Thanks.
spk10: Yeah, our next question comes from the line of Gina from BTIG. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.
spk09: Hi, thanks for taking the questions. Firstly, on the biorepository, impressive to see 20% growth despite the pandemic. I was curious, prior to the pandemic, I think there are efforts to expand, you know, further diversify the biorepository, I think, you know, expansion into the North American market and also maybe Asia as well. I was wondering if there was any progress on that front or has it been just largely from the traditional geographical sources?
spk07: You mean with regards to where the diagnostic samples come from?
spk09: Exactly.
spk07: For the time being, it's pretty much what it was before the pandemic. So I think, as you can imagine, during the pandemic, it wasn't the best time to try to go and set up new channels. That said, we clearly have a plan and an aspiration to strengthen our presence geographically in Europe. And this is my priority number one. And then when you go into Asia, we are in discussions there. And I think we'll accelerate those now while things become easier in a few selected, you know, attractive Asian markets to strengthen our presence. But those are our early days. So I think you will have to be a little bit patient. We hopefully can share more on that progress in the second half of the year. That said, you know, as I said initially, I just want to make the point that the presence that we do have, and I think that the regions we are in, I think are, apart from Brazil, which is still suffering tremendously from the pandemic, I mean, there are robust growing regions. I think that's why we believe we have an underlying strong demand for an increased, you know, increasing demand for our tests worldwide.
spk09: Gotcha. And then if I could ask one more question, just on the ROPAD study and the efforts there, obviously a lot of progress you're making. I'm just kind of curious, could you talk about what differentiates centigene efforts around, you know, the LRT2 mutation identification? Is it just largely the pure breadth of the database that you have or the samples that you have, or are there, differentiated kind of biological insights that you're finding that you might be adding value for as well. Thank you.
spk01: Yeah.
spk07: So the two aspects, maybe I read the first one was really how could we build up that big cohort in a reasonable amount of time? And I think that really translates to the physician network that we have. And I do think we have a very strong experience and connection in neuroscience. And that's something we want to leverage also going forward with regards to how to prioritize diseases. I mean, there are quite a couple of highly intriguing, strong connections if you look at pathways that emerge from rare diseases, rare genetic disorders that have implications for the more well-known, maybe more towards end-of-stage neurological diseases like Parkinson's and others. So that is clearly an area with the know-how that we want to go deeper in. And I do believe that we have a benefit there because we can connect the rare diseases, the many rare disease patients often children have in our data bank that often present with neurological symptoms and syndromes and mine that data you know, in the anticipated understanding of what some of these insights mean if you compare it to the data set of Parkinson patients, if you will. So I do believe that our rare disease biobank is a unique asset to do mining in areas like Parkinson.
spk09: Fantastic. Thank you so much.
spk07: All right. I think that brings us to the end. Leonard?
spk04: Yes, I think we're at the end of the call. Thanks for joining everyone. We're looking forward to connecting later in the quarter, either when we announce the Q1 results or at the investor event or in a campaign conference. So I think we can close the call.
spk08: Thank you, everybody, for participating. Appreciate your time.
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