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spk10: Good morning. My name is Chris, and I will be your conference operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to Kronos Group's 2022 Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Shane Laidlaw, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
spk13: Thank you, Chris, and thank you for joining us today to review Kronos Group's 2022 Third Quarter Financial and Business Performance. Today, I am joined by our Chairman, President, and CEO, Mike Gorenstein, and our CFO, Bob Mador. Kronos Group issued a news release announcing our financial results this morning, which is filed on our Edgar and Cedar profiles. This information, as well as the prepared remarks, will also be posted on our website under Investor Relations. Before I turn the call over to Mike, let me remind you that we may make forward-looking statements and refer to non-GAAP financial measures during this call. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and assumptions that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations are detailed in our earnings materials and our SEC filings that are available on our website, by which any forward-looking statements made during this call are qualified in their entirety. Information about non-GAAP financial measures, including reconciliations to U.S. GAAP, can also be found in the earnings materials that are available on our website. We will now make prepared remarks, and then we will move into a question and answer session. With that, I'll pass it over to Kronos Group's Chairman, President, and CEO, Mike Gornstein.
spk12: Thanks, Shane, and good morning, everyone. I'd like to start our call today by discussing the strategic realignment we have been working on this year. We've taken steps to cut costs, as you've seen within our operating expense structure, and continue refining our budgeting and capital allocation processes to improve further. Our slimmer cost structure and more targeted approach to growth across segments helps ensure that we're allocating funds to the right projects and initiatives. All new investments share a common goal, profitably grow Kronos with a focus on borderless products and brands that can adapt to new markets as they open. Thanks to continuous efforts and reinforcing our startup mentality, we remain on track to hit our cost savings target of 20 to 25 million in operating expenses in 2022. As we complete the budgeting process for 23, we remain keenly focused on cutting additional costs throughout our business to provide a firm footing for Kronos to build its borderless product portfolio and enable long-term sustainable growth. A key area of focus for us has been adapting our supply chain. The build-out of downstream processing capabilities at GroCo is progressing with flower packaging up and running, and we continue to be pleased with the cultivation performance at GroCo and our other CMO providers. In the third quarter, GroCo reported to us preliminary unaudited revenue of approximately $5.8 million to non-Kronos customers. And as a reminder, GroCo has been repaying its senior secured loan, which is now approximately $73 million. These loan receivables, combined with our balance sheet of approximately $890 million in cash and short-term investments and strategic investments in Kronos Australia and Pharmacan, set us up well to enter new markets as they open. Balance sheet management through economic uncertainty is paramount, and our desire to maintain a significant industry-leading cash balance ahead of potential global strategic growth opportunities has guided many of our decisions year-to-date. To maximize the benefits of our balance sheet, we have repositioned a significant portion of our cash into short-term investments to take advantage of the higher interest rate environment. Growth via innovation continue to be a theme for us. In Canada, our spinach brand is winning in the edible and vape categories, and we expanded on our offerings in these two categories with spinach fields, CBN gummy, and vape products. We're excited that this portfolio of rare cannabinoids continues to grow and with a best-in-class product development team, we believe we can continue to provide consumers with superior and differentiated products utilizing rare cannabinoids. Further leveraging rare cannabinoids to expand our portfolio will continue to be pivotal for our ongoing new product launches. Having most recently announced the achievement of the equity milestone for THC-B, we are pleased with the product development progress across categories and look forward to sharing more details on new product launches in the future. This quarter, we also received the results of an important third-party verified study, which evaluated the sustainability and impact of traditional methods of cannabis extraction and their own proprietary fermentation methods. The results were clear. The environmental footprint of growing plants indoors is high, and using innovative fermentation processes dramatically lowers the environmental impact of cannabinoid production. These results show a striking advantage for the fermentation method. as the average percentage carbon footprint saving of the fermentation method is 99.8%. While our industry is young, it's never too early to lead and invest in technology that helps contribute to a greener future. While fermentation enables us to make a smaller environmental impact, it also allows us to leverage rare cannabinoids, making way for unique and new experiences through proprietary blends of cannabinoids. The fact that we're able to create breakthrough products while being environmentally friendly is a win-win for Kronos. Despite a challenging macro environment in Canada, driven by disruptions at our provincial customers in Ontario and British Columbia, our team continued to push new innovations and drive profitable growth. To make up for these disruptions, we strive to maintain supply continuity with customers, although those efforts resulted in higher labor and shipping costs. We expect that the focus we put on making sure our products are on the shelf will pay dividends over the long run. The following market share commentary will all be referencing high-fire data. In the flour category, 28-gram bags have come to dominate the market, making up seven of the top 10 SKUs. Spinach once again achieved the number one-ranked dry flour SKU in September with our 28-gram wedding cake offering, achieving a nationwide flour market share in Q3 of 6.4%. up 50 basis points from last quarter, making us the number three brand nationally in flour. 28-gram flour typically carries a lower margin profile, despite this impact to our financials. It is important that when selling into the provinces and building relationships with retailers that we have a full product portfolio that they are looking for. Our 28-gram products are winning on quality, not just being the cheapest. We are confident that over the long run, in partnership with GroCo and other contract manufacturers, we can improve on the margin profile of the category. Moving to edibles, spinach continues to expand market share, up 100 basis points from last quarter to 15.3% and 19.8% market share when looking at just the gummies category. Five spinach gummies SKUs are in the top 15, including the number one and number two market share positions on a per SKU basis. We continue to be more efficient and targeted with our SKU launches in edibles. driving market share gains with limited cannibalization, which is exemplified by our spinach fields, rare cannabinoid-focused gummy additions, which are quickly climbing market share ranks. In vapes, we expanded market share by 70 basis points versus last quarter to 4.1%, driven by the wave of new products we brought to market this year, including the Blackberry Kush CBN vape, the Tropical Diesel CBG vape, and the Atomic Sour Grapefruit vape. In free rolls, Despite not being where we want to be yet, we have several innovations and SKU assortment changes that we expect to change the trajectory of this category for us. This overhaul will include new packaging, market-aligned pricing, and innovative new infused pre-roll offerings that just shipped last week. These new spinach pre-rolls include a THC-boosted product called Atomic GMO, which is a crossbreed of two of our best-selling flower offerings, Atomic Sour Grapefruit and GMO Cookies. as well as a CBG-infused pre-roll under the new Spinach Fields sub-brand. We are very excited to get our new pre-roll product assortment into the retail channel so our sales team can do what they do best. Turning to Israel, our Peace Naturals products continue to win in the market. Our team in Israel grew reported net revenue 88% year-over-year to $7 million, and on a constant currency basis, net revenue in Israel increased 98% year-over-year to $7.4 million. We've had incredibly positive patient reactions to our newest strain launches, Tocobamba, Wedding Cake, and GMO Cookies, in addition to our packaging redesign, which allows for additional information on the terpene profiles of our product. Israel's patient count continues to grow as well, adding approximately 1,500 new medical cannabis patients in September, nearing a total of 120,000 patients. This is the third... consecutive months, we have seen patient growth of approximately 1,500 or greater. The re-acceleration and year-over-year growth for patient permits provides a good foundation for growth in the Israeli market for us to capitalize on. Earlier this year, our brand Peace Naturals launched an ad campaign in partnership with the Warriors for Life Association in Israel. The campaign called on mayors to restrict or stop traditional firework shows that cause distress and anxiety to medical patients. and those with PTSD as a result of conflict and war, a serious problem faced by many veterans in the country. We are proud to have been awarded a prestigious CLIO Award for this campaign in the social good category. Congratulations to our deserving Peace Naturals team in Israel and the amazing work Warriors for Life do for our veterans. I want to take a moment to shed light on our U.S. business performance. As you have heard over the past couple of quarters, we have completely shifted away from our beauty category focused portfolio. All inventory that is beauty focused is being worked through in the wholesale and DTC channels as we shift the focus of these brands to adult use product formats. We continued improving our cost structure in the US and believe it is important to focus our investments only in areas that will give us an advantage in adult use product formats. We are focused on creating borderless products and brands that can easily be adapted to emerging cannabis markets as they become commercially viable opportunities. The pivot in our US business further drives us towards our singular focus of creating adult use cannabinoid products. Looking to the adult use cannabis market opportunity, we are pleased to see progress by the Biden administration last month to issue pardons for minor cannabis related offenses at the federal level and urging governors to do the same. These actions represent a small but important step towards healing the harm done by cannabis prohibition in the United States. We believe cannabis should be legal and that a comprehensive and reasonable regulatory framework should be put in place for the industry. As legalization efforts continue across the U.S., we are committed to using our voice to lead the industry forward responsibly, and we will continue to be an integral part of the conversation. We're proud to support responsible legalization efforts and meaningful social justice reform. Moving to Australia, where we have an approximate 10% stake in Kronos Australia, the team is executing at a high level in the early stages of the market development. During our third quarter, Kronos Australia announced the one cent per share cash dividend, which yielded Kronos approximately 390,000 US dollars in October. Having a long-term low capital investment such as Kronos Australia start to pay capital back is a big positive. Kronos Australia also recently, excuse me, also recently reported strong financial results with revenue in September hitting a record 9.9 million Australian dollars, which is a run rate of nearly 120 million annually. To continue to drive long-term growth, they recently brought a new state of the art distribution center online. With a growing infrastructure, expanding medical market, and strong team, we look forward to Kronos Australia's continued growth and market penetration. And last, but certainly not least, I would like to congratulate Jeff Jacobson on his expanded role and promotion to Chief Growth Officer. Jeff has been with Kronos since 2016 and most recently served as SVP, Head of Growth, North America. In addition to Jeff's oversight of the marketing and sales functions, In his new role, he will oversee North American operations. Given the speed at which this industry moves, we believe having one leader guide the process from the point of idea creation to getting the product on the shelf will lead to better results for us going forward. Congrats to Jeff on this new role. With that, I would like to pass it to Bob to take you through our financials.
spk09: Thanks, Mike, and good morning, everyone. Company reported consolidated net revenue in the third quarter of 2022 of 20.9 million, a 3% increase from the third quarter of 2021. Constant currency consolidated net revenue increased 7% to 21.8 million. Revenue growth year over year was primarily driven by an increase in net revenue in the rest of the world segment, driven by cannabis flower sales in Israel and cannabis extract sales in Canada, partially offset by reduced sales in the U.S. and lower cannabis flower sales in Canada driven by adverse price mix. Consolidated gross profit for the third quarter of 2022 was $1.2 million, representing a $1.9 million improvement from the third quarter of 2021. The gross margin was positive 6% up from a negative 4% last year, The improvement versus prior year was primarily driven by increased revenue in the ROW segment, mainly driven by cannabis flower in Israel, a favorable mix of cannabis extract products to carry a higher margin profile than other product categories, and lower cannabis biomass costs, which were partially offset by lower fixed cost absorption due to the timing of the wind-out activities at the Peace Naturals Campus. and lower revenue in the U.S. segment. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter of 2022 was negative 21.7 million, representing a 25.1 million improvement from the third quarter of 2021. The improvement versus prior year was primarily driven by decreases in general and administrative, sales and marketing, and research and development expenses as a result of the company's strategic realignment initiative and an improvement in gross profit. Now turning to our segments. In the rest of the world segment, we reported net revenue in the third quarter of 2022 of $20.4 million, an 11% increase from the third quarter of 2021. Constant currency net revenue in Israel increased 98% to $7.4 million while constant currency net revenue in Canada was down 2% to $13.9 million. Revenue growth year-over-year was primarily driven by increased flower sales in Israel and increased cannabis extract sales in Canada. These gains were partially offset by lower cannabis flower sales in Canada, driven by an adverse price mix shift. Gross profit in the rest of the world segment for the third quarter of 2022 was 3.1 million, representing a 2.6 million improvement from the third quarter of 2021. The gross margin was positive 15% up from positive 3% last year. The improvement versus prior year was primarily driven by increased cannabis flower revenue in Israel, higher cannabis extract sales in Canada that carry a higher gross margin than other product categories, and lower cannabis biomass costs, partially offset by lower fixed cost absorption due to the timing of wind-down activities at the Peace Naturals campus. Adjusted EBITDA in the rest of the world segment for the third quarter of 2022 was negative $11.4 million, representing an eight 18.3 million improvement from the third quarter of 2021. The improvement versus prior year was primarily driven by a decrease in general and administrative expenses and an increase in gross profit. Turning to the U.S. segment, we reported net revenue in the third quarter of 2022 of $500,000, a 76% decrease from the third quarter of 2021. The decrease year over year was primarily driven by a reduction in sales as a result of a decrease in promotional spend and skew rationalization efforts as the company implements its realignment of the US business. Gross profit for the US segment for the third quarter of 2022 was negative $2 million, representing a $700,000 decline from the third quarter of 2021. The decline year over year primarily due to lower sales volumes and increased inventory reserves driven by the realignment activities. Adjusted EBITDA in the U.S. segment of the third quarter of 2022 was negative 4.9 million, representing a 7.3 million improvement from the third quarter of 2021. The improvement versus prior year was primarily driven by decreases in sales and marketing, general and administrative, and research and development expenses, driven by the reduction in beauty category-focused R&D. Now turning to our balance sheet. The company ended the quarter with approximately $890 million in cash and short-term investments. As foreign exchange rate volatility has impacted our P&L, it has also had a large impact on our balance sheet. If you apply the FX rates for the period ended December 31 of 2021 on the current period balance sheet, we would have approximately $940 million in cash and short-term investments. It's approximately $50 million difference. We've made significant strides to reduce spending and improve our cash burn rate. Our free cash flow has improved by over 50% versus the same period last year driven by operating expense savings and a 35% reduction in CapEx, which was down to 1.6 million in the third quarter.
spk08: With that, I'll turn it back to Mike. Thanks, Bob.
spk12: We started in Canada to learn and build a borderless product portfolio. The lineup of products we've created to date continue to win, driving market share gains for Kronos across categories, giving us confidence that they can win in any market. Despite certain challenges in Canada that drag on profitability, proving out our capabilities and building an elite team remain top priorities. In Israel, our team continues to fight for and win market share, which is a testament to our branding and product quality. Having a team on the ground is a big differentiator for us, and you will see us continue to leverage that strength in Israel as the market continues to grow and evolve. As we continue to execute on our strategic realignment, I'm encouraged that we have maintained our innovation progress with a leaner cost structure. I want to thank our dedicated employees who continue to stay focused on the long-term plans. We remain singularly focused on winning in the adult youth cannabis market globally, and our industry-leading balance sheet affords us the opportunity to selectively invest and build our platform in new markets as they open. With that, I'll open the line for questions.
spk10: Thank you. To ask a question, you'll need to press star 1-1 on your phone. We ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Stand by as we compile the Q&A roster. One moment, please, for our first question. Our first question will come from Andrew Carter of Stiefel. Your line is open.
spk11: Hey, Trance. Good morning. I wanted to drill down on the spinach bags, which has been kind of the vast majority of the growth in the headset trend. Obviously, it shows some diminishing returns. First, is that profitable on a growth margin basis? And is the theory there like an attachment rate that allows you to get the other spinach products, whether it be pre-rolls, vapes, on the shelf, and this is just the cost of doing business? Thanks.
spk12: Sure. Thanks, Andrew. It is a positive gross margin, and I think there's a few things. One, we do look at it, and it is important from a utilization perspective to be able to have the outflow for the supply chain, but also When you think about utilization for us, it does drive a lot of value in the GroCo equity that we have to make sure that we're utilizing the facility. But also, I think it's important for the strength of the brand and for some of the other products we're launching. Getting familiarity with some of the new strains will certainly fuel some of the work that we do in pre-rolls and vapes. So I think when you look at it overall for the portfolio and value driver, it's certainly there and I take your point on 28 grams versus 3.5 grams, but I think we have to look at what consumers want and respond to it.
spk11: Thanks. Second question I wanted to ask about the cost savings, the 20 to 25 achieved this year. Can you give us a sense of how much of those 20 to 25 hit the P&L this year? Therefore, how much is incremental next year? And you did allude to further optimization savings. I wanted to make sure I understood that you could have more And I know that you said kind of the U.S. is important for your future business, but that's $8 million of cost. If I had got that right, a quarter, is that just a cost that's going to be embedded with you until something changes, until you hit some kind of disruptive? Or is even those $8 million or, therefore, $30 million annualized savings in scope as well? Thanks.
spk12: Sure. You know, when we think about the U.S., there's still, you know, we see opportunity there. I wouldn't say that we are happy with the cost structure versus, you know, what the contribution is today. But we do see opportunity in the U.S. So, you know, it's still a business that we're working on and making sure that we're making it as lean as possible and, you know, basically transforming into something that's a positive contributor. You know, I'll let Bob speak to where we are overall in the $25 million. But part of that, when I talk about further opportunities, is just because we had the plan at the beginning of the year doesn't mean we're not constantly looking for any incremental savings, evaluating everything we do to find places that we can improve our bottom line.
spk09: Yeah, thanks, Mike. I'll just add a little more color on that. Listen, we're very confident in our ability to hit the $20 million to $25 million in cost savings. Those are actual realized cost savings. in this fiscal year versus the prior year. You know, we're in the middle of and working through our 2023 budget process, and as Mike pointed out in his prepared comments, we're very focused on continuing to, you know, become more efficient and effective. Our realignment strategy and restructuring activities are really going to be a big contributor to, you know, improve not just gross margin, but also operating efficiencies too. So we're anticipating additional savings beyond the 20 and 25 we realized this year going into 2023 also.
spk08: Thanks, I'll pass it on.
spk10: Thank you. One moment please for our next question. And our next question will come from the line of Michael Friedman of Raymond James. The line is open.
spk04: Good morning, Mike, Bob, and Shane. Thanks for taking our questions here. I was glad to see the launch of CBG-infused pre-rolls, products involving CBN, product development with PHCV. I wonder if you could provide us an update on if there's any new strategic thinking on how you are considering deploying cultivated cannabinoids through your partnership with Kinko. Thanks.
spk12: Sure. Thank you. You know, we actually think things have been going well as far as uptake for the product. And a lot of the strategy for the product pipeline that we've had in motion does involve heavily those products. So we've seen great response to the edibles and to the vapes. And with just shipping with a rare cannabinoid this week, or sorry, last week with pre-rolls. We feel like those are the three main categories that make sense to have the rare cannabinoids in. Now it's some of the cannabinoids we've been developing that haven't been on market starting to come out. So just given when we look at, say, CBG, Spiel's gummies having a 1.9% market share just on a single skew basis, We think the strategy is working, and we think that the portfolio will continue to gain strength as there's more and more new differentiating that we can add to the roster.
spk04: Okay, great. Thank you. And as a follow-up, I was reading that your exit from the Peace Naturalist Campus is going to be pushing into 2023. I wonder if you could provide us an update on that.
spk12: Sure. While we think the bulk of the transition should still be done this year, there's just been some delays with getting some of the CMOs up and running to be able to handle the capacity. And for us, what we think is most important is making sure that we're able to maintain the products on shelf to be able to keep the top line momentum going. so that when the transition is complete, we can fully realize the benefits of the cost savings. So we're being careful and making sure that we're not rushing. So we expect still the first half of next year that the transition should be complete. And noting that it's definitely a gradual transition, but we have completed all cultivation activities at the snapshot.
spk04: OK. Thank you. If you would entertain just one more. Thinking about your US strategy, I wonder if you could shed some light on your internal thinking, especially in light of Canopy's recent move to execute US investments by way of holding CO and if this changes your view on the US outlook.
spk12: Yeah, I think for us, we're in a different situation than a lot of peers. Given that You know, we have a strong investment with Pharmacan today, but most of our dry powder is still, you know, maintained on the balance sheet. We have a lot of flexibility, not having any debt. And we do look at it still as making sure we have the right product portfolio. And ultimately, when we look at the U.S., it's how do we get out our product portfolio and how do we find new products to add to it. You know, we think that there's certainly a lot of momentum with the Biden announcement, but, you know, we're looking at structures that fit us best, and I think you'll see us getting closer and closer to that. So we're really excited about the U.S. opportunity, and we still feel that it is a branded product opportunity, and things are going to continue moving more towards a CPG-looking market.
spk04: That's great. Thanks. I'll pass it on.
spk10: Thank you. And one moment for our next question. Our next question will come from Vivian Azir of Cowen. Your line is open.
spk01: Hi, thank you. Good morning. I wanted to follow up on the rare cannabinoids. While it's clearly early days for you, Mike, I know you're a keen observer of the U.S. marketplace where products featuring rare cannabinoids are more available. So I'd like to just get your impressions on what you see from a category kind of perspective and whether you think that'll apply to cannabis. Thank you.
spk12: Sure. It's a great question. You know, I think one of the challenges that led us to sort of work down this pathway is it's still very difficult, I think, to get enough availability of some of those rare cannabinoids. There are some cannabinoids that are easier to get in the U.S. now, like CBN and CBG, but we look at some of the ones, like THCV, for example, that you're just not seeing commercial availability and being able to get this in supply. But we've seen that even outside of the traditional cannabis channels, cannabinoids like CBN, once consumers have now learned what CBN is and what CBN does, there is a lot of uptake of it and it does provide a differentiator and really like standalone branded products. So, um, you know, we continue to believe that it's a, it's a great opportunity and a good way to, you know, to escape, call it commoditization of the products.
spk01: Understood. And for my followup, just pivoting to Israel, please. Um, nice to hear that the market is reaccelerated. Um, just, Would love to get an updated view of where you think market penetration can go in Israel. Thanks.
spk12: Sure. Yeah, I think we did have those temporary kind of stop for a few months, and we've seen things start to turn back on. Um, we, we think that things are now headed back in the right direction. Uh, the market's looking good growth wise, and it's really, uh, you know, the thing to watch is what's happening with patient growth. How much does that reaccelerate? Of course, we just had, uh, had an election last week, which we think, you know, gives more certainty to, uh, you know, how things move forward politically. And we're very optimistic. We think that, uh, our ability to continue, uh, outpacing the growth of the market, on the wholesale channel, and then also the market continuing to grow gives us a bright future.
spk01: Thank you.
spk10: Thank you. One moment, please, for our next question. The next question will come from John Zamparo of CIBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.
spk02: Thanks. Good morning. I also wanted to touch on the Israeli market and can you talk about the pricing dynamics here? And do you think you're taking share in Israel?
spk08: Sure.
spk12: Yeah, I think there, you know, there's still been some limited pricing pressure, but it's relieved compared to what we had, you know, a quarter or two ago. So you're seeing some of the excess supply work its way through the system. And I think we are taking share. I think that we stand out when it comes to quality. I think that the branch is recognized as being a leader. And, you know, we are – we're continuing to perform. So, you know, I think that the combination of having, you know, better quality but also now getting back to patient growth is generally improving the dynamics there. And I think that there was sort of a lesson that was learned as far as we did have a big shortage in Israel. So there was a lot of activities to bring in whatever products local companies could find. And I think now there's a little bit more skepticism in what products are coming in. So we see those macro dynamics continue to improve, and we've already seen them improve over the last couple of months.
spk09: okay that's helpful thanks and then my follow-up is on gross margin and apologies if i missed it but can you say what this was either consolidated or rest of world if you back out the peace naturals exits yeah bob do you want to go ahead and take that one yeah no definitely um we we really feel confident in the trajectory of our motion margin profile you know there are a lot of pluses and and you know some minuses uh that transpired in the quarter but know as as you guys talked about a second ago you know israel's margin has remained strong and is growing as that business continues to grow in revenues you know we're experiencing lower biomass costs through our relationship partnership with groco and that's going to be a long-term sustainable type savings versus you know history past experience you know as cannabis extracts continue to become a bigger part of our business in canada It'll continue to have favorable margin trends. They have higher margins than other product categories. And, you know, that was offset, particularly in this quarter, by a few things. You know, one was we realized and recorded a $1.8 million decline in gross profit dollars sequentially from Q2 in the U.S. business. And a lot of that was driven by taking inventory reserves, discounting product as we work through. discontinued SKUs and product categories. You know, we had and we experienced in the ROW segment lower fixed cost absorption this particular quarter with the slight delay in our transition out of stainer facilities we've talked about a little bit. We also discussed in the call, you know, the adverse price mix shifts. in the Canadian flour category that's driven by the 28 gram bags that drove some of the margin impact in the quarter. And then lastly, and again, another period-based anomaly, we believe, during this quarter, in the third quarter, we began downstream processing of some rare cannabinoids that haven't reached their milestones yet on efficiency, but we think be the market for this product and the differentiation that's going to create is a great investment and we'll have a long-term ROI. So, you know, there are a lot of pluses that are going to be sustained and sustainable and a lot of minuses. And I would say most of the minuses incurred in the quarter were just period expenses. And I don't consider they're going to be things that carry forward long-term.
spk12: Thanks, Bob. And just to follow up on the rare cannabinoid point, what you're seeing here, if you remember last year, we amended the agreement so that if we wanted to commercialize the cannabinoid early before the productive later was hit, that we had the option to issue one-third of the equity upon commercialization. And so what you could see back there is we were excited about a cannabinoid that we wanted to get in the market early.
spk08: Understood. That's helpful. Thank you.
spk10: Thank you. And one moment for our next question. Our next question will come from Nadine Sawat of Alliance Bernstein. Your line is open.
spk06: Hi, thank you. Good morning, everybody. Two questions for me. So first, you stated that you expect pre-roll innovation to be your next big driver of growth. And I know you called out those two products in particular. So given that that segment is already pretty crowded, what gives you the confidence that your brands are going to win in that space and drive that growth you're talking about? And then my second question, your U.S. revenues, they continue to fall. You've explained that very clearly as part of your realignment plan. Could you give us any clarity as to how we should think about that segment a little bit more long term? Should we think of this quarter as
spk12: the bottom is there more decline to come how can we expect it when should we expect it to actually start growing again thank you thanks uh for the first question you know look i think every category in cannabis uh either is crowded or will quickly become crowded until there's ultimately differentiation and you see uh companies start to set apart so When we think about the way that we're entering, taking similar approaches in other categories, it's about really focusing on what we think a consumer wants. It's making sure that the brand is going to perform well and that we have a really, really good product. So there's a lot of innovation to come in pre-rolls. But one of the reasons you're seeing some movement there is there's an opportunity to differentiate able to provide a lot of value to consumers as far as the complexity of the product with different terpenes and flour and the convenience. So, you know, I think it's ultimately the same, you know, you could have said that edibles is really crowded and I think we've performed well. And I think that pre-rolled is a very large category with a lot of runway and opportunity. And we're excited about it. And I think that, you know, this is only the beginning. We have a lot that will be coming out for the next, uh, next couple of years. And I think it's going to continue to take share from Flower. As far as the US, I think it's still something that you'll see in transition. I mean, we are going to be focused on continuing to skinny down and get to a place where we're focused on just the adult use product formats. And I think you'll then see it start to grow when we're able to get the right innovation back on the market and we have the infrastructure proper. I think that while we would limit the format, what we can do as far as product skews is something where you see the growth come from. There's cannabinoids beyond CBD that we think are able to stand out and provide more growth. I think it's very hard to differentiate with only CBD. It's similar to what we see in THC-type products. I think being able to use A lot of different cannabinoids is what's going to drive the growth there.
spk06: All right. Thank you.
spk10: Thank you. And one moment, please, for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Andrew Bond of Jefferies. The line is open.
spk05: Hey, good morning. Andrew Bond on the line for Owen Bennett. Thanks for taking our question. I wanted to touch, revisit on the comments you made about the sizable dry powder you have on the balance sheet and prospects for M&A. Obviously, valuations in the industry across the board have been coming down. Can you give any more detail around what opportunities you might be evaluating, valuation levels you are seeing? And can you remind us of kind of how your focus is in terms of assessing how you'd like to deploy that cash? Thank you.
spk12: Sure, thanks. It's a great question. You know, I think valuations certainly are coming down. And I think that one of the things that we probably think about differently here is we're again looking at what happens in a world where state borders fall and when there's the equilibrium of supply and demand. So we're looking when, you know, what's going to stand out when you're able to always find a location and you're able to go and pick up products. what's it look like in a mature market? And for us, that comes down to branded products. So we haven't really changed in our thinking. They're still looking to see, you know, what the best opportunities are. And, and you see every, you know, every quarter you're seeing separation and you're seeing that kind of maturity in a lot of the markets. So, you know, we're not as interested in, okay, here's a brand new market. Look at this, huge sizable margin spread because you'll see that that will compress as you're able to get more supply on the market. And then over time, that starts to shift as with any other consumer product industry towards what the best branded products are.
spk05: Got it. Thank you, Mike. I'll pass it on.
spk10: Thank you. One moment, please, for the next question. Our next question will come from Matt Bottomley of Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open.
spk07: Good morning, all. Thanks for the question here. Just one follow-up for me, Mike, just on one of your comments in the Q&A here that you anticipate a lot of different product categories, particularly in Canada, to eventually become saturated, which I would agree with. In the current regulatory environment, do you think a lot of the gains Chronos has done, particularly in the edible category, there's been one or two of your peers which Edibles seem to be a category where there's been some growth here. What's your view on how that category in particular is going to trend? Obviously, dried bud kind of fell off a cliff, particularly at the value segment. Do you think kind of branded products, as limited as they are in Canada, are a little more protected from that? Or are you anticipating over the next 12, 16 months, there's going to have to be additional pivots, even in the categories that are doing well for you right now?
spk12: Yeah, sorry, just to clarify what I meant there. It's a great question. What I meant by saturated is there's not going to be an opportunity in cannabis, just given how large of an industry, all the potential, where you're going to be the only one who moves in and say, like, you're one of three companies that are offering pre-rolls. There's an opportunity. You can expect everyone's going to go chase it. But what I do think what I liked about pre-rolls and all types of edibles is the further you get from flower to you know, the more differentiation you can have. I think edibles is probably about as far along that differentiation curve as you can get. So pre-rolled is certainly right up there, but I don't think you're going to see a lot of change in edibles. And it's not a coincidence if you look at the U.S., edibles is probably more than the other category. We can see consistent brands that are popping up across different states, even though they aren't necessarily – your traditional multi-state operator. I think you'll see that with three-year-olds. So I think there's more innovation to come, you know, outside of just gummies in Canada. But I think it started off saturated, and if anything, you know, you're seeing leaders emerge, and there's much more stickiness than something like flour.
spk07: Got it. Thank you.
spk10: Thank you. And this will conclude the Q&A session of today's call and will also conclude today's conference call. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect and have a pleasant day.
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